| lqid | Anybody have any advice for a piece of software I can use to draw network diagrams? | 00:36 |
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| th3pr0ph3t | lqid, all I can think of is Dia | 01:19 |
| === hays_ is now known as hays | ||
| igor | hi all | 02:10 |
| igor | I'm new to xubuntu | 02:11 |
| igor | not new to linux though | 02:11 |
| igor | I have a problem with high power consumption with xubuntu 12.04 | 02:11 |
| igor | that has not been happening with ubuntu 12.04 on the same hardware | 02:12 |
| igor | the power consumption with xubuntu is about twice as much as with ubuntu | 02:12 |
| igor | it's consuming around 16 watts when idle | 02:13 |
| igor | should be using around 7-8 watts | 02:13 |
| igor | the hardware is a Dell Mini 9 netbook | 02:14 |
| igor | any ideas what could be the cause? | 02:14 |
| ObrienDave | igor, probably background applications running | 02:17 |
| igor | @ObrienDave example? | 02:18 |
| ObrienDave | run task manager, see what's running | 02:18 |
| igor | CPU load is very low | 02:18 |
| ObrienDave | i have about 200 processes running now. you will have to look | 02:19 |
| igor | CPU load is less than 10%, yet the power drain is sometimes over 20W | 02:20 |
| igor | idle running | 02:20 |
| igor | fresh install, fresh login | 02:20 |
| ObrienDave | fans, drives, could be any number of things affecting power consumption | 02:20 |
| igor | doesn't have a fan, it's a netbook | 02:20 |
| igor | has a SSD | 02:21 |
| ObrienDave | sorry then, no clue as to what would cause power drain | 02:21 |
| igor | same laptop running ubuntu 12.04 drains half as much as with xubuntu | 02:21 |
| igor | thanks anyway | 02:21 |
| igor | anyone else? | 02:22 |
| ObrienDave | well, they are different DE's, like comparing apples to oranges | 02:22 |
| igor | xfce supposed to be leaner that unity | 02:22 |
| igor | certainly could not be accounted for twice the consumption | 02:23 |
| igor | perhaps 10%, not twice as much | 02:24 |
| igor | I'll try ask the devs | 02:24 |
| ObrienDave | sorry, can't help you with this question. good luck. | 02:25 |
| igor | thanks | 02:26 |
| igor | can anyone else offer any help? | 02:36 |
| Quix86 | does 12.04.2 have any known issues hanging on install reboot? | 02:51 |
| Quix86 | fwiw 12.04 is hanging on shut down and if I force a shutdown, grub/something doesn't seem to install properly | 03:03 |
| Quix86 | and when I try to boot from the new install I hang on a blinking cursor after bios | 03:04 |
| holstein | Quix86: its going to be hardware specific.. | 03:20 |
| holstein | Quix86: have you applied all upgrades? | 03:21 |
| holstein | !nomodeset | 03:21 |
| ubottu | A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter | 03:21 |
| Quix86 | what upgrades? This is on first install | 03:24 |
| Quix86 | also X41 laptop | 03:24 |
| holstein | Quix86: x41? | 03:24 |
| Quix86 | and I've got that roddy bot blocked, so if you'd like to tell me something please tell me | 03:24 |
| Quix86 | thinkpad x41 | 03:25 |
| holstein | Quix86: can you boot live? with nomodeset? | 03:25 |
| holstein | can you get to a live desktop? | 03:25 |
| Quix86 | live boots fine, that's how the installer works | 03:25 |
| Quix86 | it boots a live desktop and then you go into the installer | 03:25 |
| holstein | Quix86: sure.. but the install *should* work the same | 03:26 |
| holstein | Quix86: are you upgrading during the install? | 03:26 |
| Quix86 | no, overwriting | 03:26 |
| Quix86 | again, the problem seems to be on shutdown | 03:26 |
| holstein | Quix86: what does that mean? | 03:26 |
| Quix86 | formating over a previous install | 03:26 |
| holstein | Quix86: what im asking is.. are you selecting "install upgrades" while installing | 03:26 |
| Quix86 | yes | 03:26 |
| Quix86 | updates | 03:27 |
| holstein | Quix86: i would *not* do that and see | 03:27 |
| holstein | Quix86: could be something about the newer kernel you are installing wth the upgrades | 03:27 |
| Quix86 | 13.04 is going back on now | 03:27 |
| Quix86 | and older is the word you are looking for | 03:27 |
| Quix86 | I was going to 12.04 so I could use PHC | 03:27 |
| holstein | Quix86: no | 03:27 |
| holstein | Quix86: i said what i was looking gor. the *newer* kernel installing by selecting "install upgrade" while you are insatlling 12.04 *could* be breaking the install | 03:28 |
| holstein | Quix86: the live kerne (the older one) works fine | 03:28 |
| holstein | the newer one, not working.. or thats my proposal | 03:29 |
| Quix86 | well, whatever it is I'll have to look into it tomorrow | 03:29 |
| Quix86 | The laptop needs to be working tonight and 13.04 is already installing | 03:29 |
| holstein | Quix86: cheers.. i would just install 13.04 and go with it if its working.. but its likely teh older kernel in 12.04 suporting your hardware.. if the live CD works fine | 03:30 |
| Quix86 | I'll have to try and get 12.04 working later, I need PHC to lower the voltages on my CPU | 03:33 |
| Quix86 | I didn't expect to have any problems installing 12.04 since previous installs have gone smoothly | 03:33 |
| Quix86 | I'll use my spare drive next time | 03:33 |
| Quix86 | I had the same problem with 13.04 and had to use boot-repair to reinstall grub for some reason | 03:59 |
| Quix86 | I'm assuming I can do the same with 12.04 later | 03:59 |
| Quix86 | FWIW, this is exactly how I installed xubuntu on it the first time, except I did have the boot issues | 03:59 |
| holstein | Quix86: maybe you are assuming the install is hanging? | 04:00 |
| Quix86 | the shutdown is what was hanging | 04:02 |
| holstein | Quix86: sure, the shutdown of the live CD, correct? | 04:02 |
| Quix86 | yes | 04:02 |
| Quix86 | usb stick to be exact | 04:02 |
| holstein | Quix86: so, the install is done doing whatever its going to do by then | 04:02 |
| Quix86 | yes | 04:03 |
| holstein | Quix86: are you doing custom partitioning? | 04:03 |
| Quix86 | unless it does grub on shutdown | 04:03 |
| Quix86 | no | 04:03 |
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| Lazaros | Hallo everyone, 2nd day with xubuntu and still can't watch a ideo on youtube. Any ideas? | 06:32 |
| Lazaros | anyone? | 06:34 |
| Myrtti | Lazaros: install flash? | 06:37 |
| Lazaros | Flash was installed already with xubuntu, I also tried the 3d party restricted something (java, flash etc) but doesn;t work | 06:42 |
| koegs | Lazaros: flash does not come with xubuntu as default | 07:01 |
| koegs | did you install flashplugin-installer? | 07:01 |
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| MkShen | Hi I need a system equalizer for pulseaudio equalizer does not work | 10:51 |
| MkShen | any suggestions? | 10:52 |
| MkShen | sound by default in the latest version of xubuntu has many serious default | 10:53 |
| MkShen | excesive bass | 10:55 |
| MkShen | help please | 10:56 |
| knome | !patience | MkShen | 10:56 |
| ubottu | MkShen: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/ | 10:56 |
| MkShen | ok thanks | 10:59 |
| goly | hello | 12:32 |
| bpat1434 | When I boot up with full disk encryption, my laptop shows just a black screen with the backlight lit, but no interface of actually displaying a keyphrase prompt. Is there any way I can fix that so it shows? The only way I know if I got the password right is to watch the HDD activity indicator light. | 15:25 |
| koegs | did it ever show that interface? | 15:26 |
| bpat1434 | koegs, no | 15:32 |
| bpat1434 | koegs, but the default Ubuntu (with Unity) shows on a friends laptop | 15:32 |
| koegs | what vga card do you have? | 15:32 |
| bpat1434 | koegs, it's an nvidia GF119M | 15:33 |
| bpat1434 | or the built-in Intel crap | 15:33 |
| bpat1434 | koegs, lspci output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5713733/ | 15:34 |
| koegs | i am not sure, but if you dont need the shiny splash on boot, you could disable plymouth | 15:35 |
| koegs | as a workaround of course :) | 15:35 |
| bpat1434 | will that just show me a text prompt for password? | 15:35 |
| koegs | hopefully: yes | 15:35 |
| bpat1434 | I'd prefer the bells and whistles.... but I'll keep that as a backup | 15:36 |
| koegs | edit /etc/default/grub, replace "quiet splash" with "noplymouth" then run "sudo update-grub" | 15:36 |
| koegs | also you can uncomment #GRUB_TERMINAL=console | 15:37 |
| koegs | then you have old low-res test-console | 15:37 |
| koegs | *text | 15:37 |
| bpat1434 | ok | 15:37 |
| bpat1434 | worth a shot | 15:37 |
| bpat1434 | will be back eventually | 15:37 |
| xubuntu563 | xubuntu is awesome! | 15:51 |
| GridCube | :) | 16:05 |
| lderan | hello elfy | 16:33 |
| xubunturocky | im somewhat of a noob i got ahold of this old dell with xp on it and im trying to switch to xubuntu | 16:39 |
| xubunturocky | so im downloading 12.04 and burning it to a cd after that all i should have to do is from a cd and follow instructions right | 16:41 |
| lderan | yup :) | 16:41 |
| xubunturocky | boot from a cd sorry for the typo | 16:41 |
| xubunturocky | cool thanks ive been trying this with ubuntu and its not working so i heard xubuntu is more compatible with older hardware | 16:42 |
| GridCube | *sort off* | 16:49 |
| bpat1434 | koegs, thanks for the help. While the text prompt isn't as fancy, it at least works | 16:52 |
| _Marcus | Xubuntu 13.04 desktop AMD64 iso is 800 MB, how do I make it lower? | 17:44 |
| _Marcus | I want to put it on a CD | 17:44 |
| knome | _Marcus, you can't. | 17:44 |
| bazhang | use a dvd or a usb stick | 17:44 |
| bazhang | or use the mini iso | 17:44 |
| bazhang | !mini | _Marcus | 17:45 |
| ubottu | _Marcus: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 17:45 |
| knome | there are also instructions on the xubuntu website on how to boot from a USB stick with the help of a CD with PC's that do not support booting from USB | 17:46 |
| _Marcus | Doesn't the mini use the Debian installer? | 17:46 |
| xubuntu799 | hallo | 17:46 |
| xubuntu259 | I'm having trouble getting an SD Card reader to work on xubuntu 11.10. Any suggestions? Reboot and update done already | 18:02 |
| knome | xubuntu259, i'd take backups and upgrade to 12.04 before i did anything else | 18:03 |
| xubuntu259 | You know what, I'm unsure my version. The help menu link just points to a site that displays 11.10 | 18:07 |
| knome | xubuntu259, can you type 'lsb_release -a' in the terminal | 18:08 |
| knome | xubuntu259, the version number in the documentation might be unfortunately incorrect | 18:08 |
| xubuntu259 | I'll try it, thanks :) | 18:09 |
| === NePtUnO is now known as NePtUnO|Off | ||
| knome | NePtUnO|Off, can you please not use away nicks? thanks. | 18:10 |
| xubuntu259 | No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS Release: | 18:10 |
| knome | okay, then your version is 12.04(.2) | 18:10 |
| knome | did you have the card reader working before? | 18:11 |
| NePtUnO|Off | why? | 18:11 |
| xubuntu259 | No issues with card or reader, verified on Win8. Of course Win8 wanted to format it... | 18:11 |
| knome | NePtUnO|Off, because they bring unwanted lines to the channel. if you want to discuss it further, you can join #ubuntu-ops. alternatively, just refrain from using those | 18:12 |
| xubuntu259 | I tried to find a hardware search tool, but couldn't find one | 18:12 |
| knome | xubuntu259, have you googled if your hardware is supposed to be supported on linux generally? | 18:12 |
| NePtUnO|Off | lines? for change the nick? pfffff.... | 18:13 |
| xubuntu259 | no, but not sure why that would have changed | 18:13 |
| knome | xubuntu259, so have you had it working in linux before? | 18:13 |
| xubuntu259 | yeah, for weeks | 18:15 |
| xubuntu259 | hmm | 18:15 |
| knome | xubuntu259, ok. is it a usb device, or a pci card? | 18:15 |
| xubuntu259 | usb | 18:15 |
| xubuntu259 | I have always right clicked and ejected before pulling it too... | 18:16 |
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| knome | xubuntu259, can you check what 'lsusb' says on a terminal to confirm if it's recognised? | 18:18 |
| xubuntu259 | user@user-laptop:~$ lsusb Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 002: ID 413c:a005 Dell Computer Corp. Internal 2.0 Hub Bus 004 Device 003: ID | 18:20 |
| xubuntu259 | Bus 001 Device 009: ID 058f:6366 Alcor Micro Corp. Multi Flash Reader | 18:22 |
| xubuntu259 | Sd card must be garbage | 18:28 |
| xubuntu259 | thanks knome for the commands | 18:30 |
| jacklk | When trying to start Teeworlds I get the following error: http://pastebin.com/dEZ64rWP Any ideas? | 19:03 |
| knome | jacklk, i don't know what Teeworlds is, but i'd see support for that | 19:04 |
| === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash | ||
| jacklk | knome: this seems an error with OpenGL programs not the game itself | 19:05 |
| Unit193 | jacklk: What driver/graphics card are you using? | 19:06 |
| jacklk | ATI Radeon HD 6450 | 19:06 |
| jacklk | I will use Ubuntu's open source drivers for now as I heard the ATI ones don't work well. | 19:16 |
| jacklk | hopefully that should fix the issue | 19:16 |
| Peyam | alla döda | 19:17 |
| jacklk | it now works fine | 19:21 |
| Unit193 | jacklk: Well, glad that fixed it! (I stepped away, used to have or randomly have a different reason for it.) | 19:38 |
| heoyea | how u get the bubble noise when u change volume up and down? | 19:39 |
| Sysi | xfce4-volumed should produce it | 19:40 |
| heoyea | Sysi: just installed, but no noise indicator, cant hear nothing when i change | 19:47 |
| Sysi | heoyea: oh right noise, not alert bubble | 19:54 |
| Sysi | heoyea: somewhere in settings is "enable event sounds", I don't remember where | 19:54 |
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| heoyea | Sysi: just enable that, still no sound tho | 20:04 |
| heoyea | Sysi: Thanks tho, guess ill just use the non-noise indicator for now | 20:06 |
| brainwash | heoyea: http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=7199 might contain some helpful information | 20:13 |
| seronis | is there some package I can install that will enable 'print to png file' | 20:28 |
| heoyea | seronis: u can save it to pdf | 20:28 |
| heoyea | brainwash: Thanks ill try some of those | 20:28 |
| seronis | heoyea: I want bmp/png only options for file is pdf/postscript/svg | 20:29 |
| heoyea | seronis: u can convert it to png after i guess | 20:29 |
| Sysi | gimp can import pdf and svg AFAIK and export as whatever | 20:30 |
| heoyea | u can just do | 20:32 |
| heoyea | convert file.pdf output.png | 20:32 |
| seronis | can it do that without waisting 30-45 seconds loading all its gui components? id still prefer it to be done as a printer target so I can skip intermediate steps | 20:32 |
| * seronis goes 'man convert' too | 20:32 | |
| heoyea | takes about 2 secs | 20:33 |
| heoyea | depending on the file | 20:33 |
| genii-around | Assuming you have imagemagick installed | 20:33 |
| heoyea | oh yes, u need that | 20:33 |
| seronis | well the man page worked.. so i assume so | 20:34 |
| seronis | and -wow-.. convert does everything | 20:34 |
| seronis | heoyea: thank you this will cover my needs for now. would still be interested in a printer option that automates this =-) | 20:36 |
| Sysi | seems that cups just doesn't support this, but you could script and/or maybe create thunar custom action for convert | 20:37 |
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| xubuntu244 | so much nabz! | 21:32 |
| xubuntu244 | hi all | 21:32 |
| xubuntu244 | i've installed this awesome kernelpanic distro <3 | 21:32 |
| xubuntu244 | hmmm.... | 21:33 |
| xubuntu244 | kkk niggas | 21:35 |
| xubuntu244 | see ya | 21:35 |
| deckard | hello. May i post a pastebin link and maybe someone could take a look and see something i am missing? | 22:38 |
| deckard | http://pastebin.com/aWVzBs7s if someone would be so kind to look :) | 22:40 |
| deckard | all the 32bit librarys are installed, at least sudo says it is | 22:40 |
| seronis | deckard: havent followed link yet but can you also state the problem ? | 22:44 |
| deckard | I game ran now it doesnt, i get errors i dont understand | 22:45 |
| deckard | the only thing i had done wouldbe to install some VPN client now this game wont launch | 22:45 |
| deckard | i will settle to just set ubuntu back to defaults but i dont know how to do that either but i assume it will fix it starting over from scratch | 22:47 |
| seronis | deckard: well i havent bothered reinstalling a SL client since i switched from windows, so i'll give it a shot and see if any problems show up for me (hopefully someone else might already know the answer) | 22:50 |
| deckard | it always worked though, fyi | 22:51 |
| deckard | just the other day i get this now | 22:51 |
| deckard | and the only thing i installed was a VPN GUI | 22:51 |
| seronis | deckard: anything to do with LL changing some client options recently? there was a change in texture baking and some clients wont work any more | 22:52 |
| deckard | nope | 22:52 |
| deckard | worked 100% up to a day ago | 22:53 |
| deckard | this viewer is ready for server side bake | 22:53 |
| deckard | can you tell me how to just reset the ubuntu half of the duel boot to be like day one install? | 22:56 |
| deckard | okay well i was told the installed cd will give the option to wipe and install ubuntu over itself, i guess thats whati want | 23:00 |
| deckard | ty for help though | 23:00 |
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