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ahoneybunback all02:13
ahoneybunvalorie: ping02:37
ScottKAnyone wants to merge lightdm-kde, feel free.04:03
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1180067] No icons on buttons @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1180067 (by GamePad64)04:37
valorieahoneybun: pong04:41
shadeslayer_ScottK: can you do the pykde4 merge?04:41
shadeslayer_I can take up lightdm then04:41
ScottKWe can leave pykde4 for a bit.04:42
shadeslayer_okay04:42
ScottKI'll take care of it when the time comes.04:42
shadeslayer_cool04:42
ScottKIt'll be easier once Debian switches to python3.3 be default.04:42
shadeslayer_I see, best to add that to the trello card?04:42
ScottKPlease do.04:43
shadeslayer_done04:43
shadeslayer_card assigned to you04:44
ScottKK.04:44
shadeslayer_bah04:47
shadeslayer_someone already merged blinken04:47
shadeslayer_Riddell: ^ please be moving trello cards from TODO04:47
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Riddellshadeslayer_: oh mm sorry about that08:19
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soeegood morning09:38
shadeslayer_Riddell: already moved btw :)09:52
* Peace- working in my wallpaper http://susepaste.org/81438509:53
BluesKaj'Morning folks10:05
soeeagateau, is it possitle to trigger homerun when moving cursor to some screen corner ?10:30
lordievader07:59 [xs4all] -!- -11:30
lordievaderHmm not sure why Kitty pasted that.. Guess I'm not familliar with Windows ssh clients... :(11:31
agateausoee: no it's not possible11:38
shadeslayer_Quintasan: ASUS wants to charge me 30 USD for a new cable for the TF10111:48
shadeslayer_just a cable mind you11:48
Quintasanwat11:48
Quintasanwat11:48
Quintasanwat11:48
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [982889] X trying to start before plymouth has finished using the drm driver @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/982889 (by Tomas Vanderka)11:48
Quintasanwat11:48
shadeslayer_no charger or anything11:48
shadeslayer_yeah11:49
Quintasanerrr11:49
QuintasanI'd tell them to go to hell11:49
shadeslayer_^^11:49
shadeslayer_though ebay agrees11:49
shadeslayer_Quintasan: http://www.ebay.in/itm/USB-Charger-Data-Sync-Cable-for-ASUS-Eee-Pad-Tablet-Transformer-TF101-TF20-GRK-/271170858728?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_203&hash=item3f230aeee811:49
shadeslayer_dx.com seems to have cheaper deals11:52
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JontheEchidnaAnybody have a link to the etherpad from the Kubuntu Saucy Mumble meeting?14:52
Riddellhttps://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-uds-saucy15:00
JontheEchidnathanks15:00
Riddellapachelogger volunteered to turn them into trello items15:00
JontheEchidnaoh, forgot about that. he did turn them in to trello items15:01
JontheEchidnaSo for a whole-version Muon SRU, we'd need approval from somebody, right?15:01
RiddellJontheEchidna: yes, depending on what it is15:02
RiddellJontheEchidna: if it adds new features then tech board I guess15:02
JontheEchidnano new features15:02
RiddellJontheEchidna: if it's just bug fixes then the normal ~ubuntu-sru15:02
JontheEchidnaoh, cool15:02
ScottKActually ...15:14
Riddellmm?15:15
ScottKJontheEchidna and Riddell: What we want to get is a micro release exception from the tech board.15:15
Riddellfor Muon?15:15
ScottKThat way we can get whole versions through without having to verify every single change.15:15
ScottKYes..15:15
JontheEchidnahaha, was about to dput. good you came when you did15:15
ScottKAlso phonon, akonadi, and maybe other stuff.15:15
shadeslayersoprano15:15
ScottKapachelogger volunteered to make a list and I volunteered to go argue with the TB.15:16
ScottKshadeslayer: Tell apachelogger.15:16
shadeslayermaybe get a micro release exception for everything KDE under our packagset?15:16
ScottKJontheEchidna: Go ahead.  We'll call this one a proof of concept.15:16
ScottKshadeslayer: No, needs to be stuff who's upstream micro-version update policy is consistent with SRU policy.15:16
Riddellshadeslayer: that would be a big ask15:16
shadeslayeron that note, new kdevelop15:17
shadeslayerScottK: ahhh15:17
ScottKIIRC phonon switched to such a policy.15:17
ScottKKDE SC had to have a policy before we could get the MRE for it.15:17
JontheEchidnaI've more or less had such a policy with Muon/LibQApt even if it hasn't been in writing15:19
JontheEchidnaoh yeah, we want both the muon and qapt source packages on the micro release exception list15:20
Riddellhi Knarf 15:21
Knarfhi Riddell15:21
Knarfthe soprano version provided by k/ubuntu has some problems; is it possible to get the latest stable version anywhere?15:22
RiddellKnarf: you think you need 2.9.2?15:24
Peace-Riddell: i am really enjoying with kubuntu on i7 :D with everything activated  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hv8KZPOau4 this is the radeon driver for ati hd 7650 15:26
apol_Riddell: yes, I've been debugging some software with him and the conclusion was (together with vHanda) that the version you're offering is broken15:26
Knarfwould be nice :)15:26
RiddellKnarf, apol_: in kubuntu-ppa/updates enough or in ubuntu archive raring-updates?15:27
Riddellwhen I spoke to vHanda about it he said kubuntu-ppa/updates was fine as it was only needed for a few newer bits of software15:28
apol_ah ah15:30
RiddellKnarf: in backport PPA https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+packages?field.name_filter=soprano&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=15:57
Riddellshortly to arrive in updates too https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa/15:57
Riddellgolly it even compiled already on amd6415:58
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ahoneybunhey all18:01
ahoneybunhey valorie18:05
lordievaderGood evening.18:21
ScottKapachelogger: I'm looking into upstreaming the kdepimlibs patch you gave me (it did seem to reduce crashiness) http://paste.kde.org/749594/raw/ and I noticed that in trunk there's been a fair bit of rewriting:  http://paste.debian.net/7650/ (diff relative to the patched version).  Do you think the patch still applies to trunk or do the changes in trunk suggest more about what ought to be done?18:36
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ahoneybunhowdy people19:46
lordievaderHey ahoneybun, how are you?19:47
ahoneybunlordievader: fine, yourself19:49
lordievaderTired, further more good.19:49
ahoneybunI'm really great right now19:49
ahoneybunswitch ROMs on my phone and I'm loving it19:51
ahoneybunlordievader: do you have the kubuntu-docs from lp?19:55
lordievaderI'm sorry, what?19:55
ahoneybunlordievader: the branch on launchpad19:58
lordievaderYes?19:58
ahoneybunoh so you have all the files and such from the kubuntu-docs branch?19:59
lordievaderEuhmm no. Should I?19:59
ahoneybunoh ok20:00
ahoneybunI just wanted to see if you could help out in one section on the docs20:00
ahoneybunthe Getting Involved page20:00
lordievaderahoneybun: Sure, I'd like to get more involved :)20:01
ahoneybunlordievader: I have copied the main branch and made my own changes into my own branch20:02
ahoneybunit has the original docs as well but reordered too20:02
lordievaderWhat kind of changes are we talking about here? Can they not be done frome the web-interface?20:03
jessieahoneybun: What ROM did you switch to? And what phone?20:03
ahoneybunlordievader: to the branch or the page?20:03
ahoneybunjessie: Samsung Galaxy Nexus (toro) AOKP20:03
lordievaderahoneybun: To the branch. Wait... I guess I'm confused.20:04
lordievaderahoneybun: The branch, what kubuntu-doc is that? The help files you have locally on a kubuntu pc?20:04
ahoneybunOk the content on the wiki pages are mostly from the branch's text files20:05
ahoneybunthe kubuntu-docs branch has the stuff that would be on the system on a fresh install20:05
lordievaderTHe help files?20:05
ahoneybunlordievader: pretty much how to do this, where to get that20:06
ahoneybunand such 20:06
ahoneybunalmost all of that text on the wiki pages are copied from the kubuntu-docs branch files20:06
ahoneybunlordievader: this is my branch https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-docs/saucy 20:06
ahoneybunit has all the content from the original just reordered for the redesign we are planning20:07
ahoneybunman coping the github for AOKP takes a long time20:08
lordievaderI'm not really up to speed with the docs. What kind of redesign are you planning?20:09
ahoneybunlordievader: well at the current state they are using docbook xml, but we are going to move them to html and host them on the wiki and a site just for them20:10
ahoneybunthats my understanding20:10
lordievaderAh, and you where searching for a way to present them in the installer right? Believe I read those mails.20:11
ahoneybunwell not really looking for that, they we talking about putting a video in the installer if a internet connection was made20:12
lordievaderahoneybun: Anyhow, I'd love to help out. However for today I'm too tired. Mind if we continue this conversation tommorow (perhaps using some voice-communication)?20:13
ahoneybunlordievader: sure I20:13
ahoneybunif you can lets use Google Hangout if possible20:13
lordievaderahoneybun: I suppose that is possible, my g+ is https://plus.google.com/10431120357944908824520:15
ahoneybunlordievader: ok thanks20:16
ahoneybunlordievader: I have you in a circle20:17
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ahoneybunvalorie: ping22:34
valoriepong22:34
valoriehow are you this afternoon, ahoneybun?22:35
ahoneybunvalorie: great, yourslef?22:35
ahoneybunyourself22:35
valoriegood22:36
valorieI had a great idea as I was falling asleep the other night about the docs but I didn't turn on the light and write it down!22:36
ahoneybungood22:36
ahoneybunoh22:37
ahoneybundarn22:37
valorieI think it was mostly about pages for art, games, and I'm not sure what else22:37
valoriesort of a "best of" page for each major grouping22:37
valoriemaybe following the kickoff grouping?22:38
valorielike: what we include by default, and what other greatest hits could be added22:38
ahoneybunthat is a great idea22:38
valoriekeep them short as far as text, with just some screenies and links to sites/docs/manuals22:39
valorieand like maybe stuff like skype that's a bit involved to install22:39
ahoneybunyes22:40
valoriethat would take a bit of the load off our Basic page22:40
ahoneybuntrue22:41
ahoneybunright now I'm working on the Getting Involved page22:41
valoriepersonally, I think the more images and links and the less text, the better22:41
ahoneybunif you want to do that maybe?22:41
valorieeasier to get translated22:41
ahoneybuncurrently lordievader wished to get move involved with helping I'm going to talk to him more tomorrow about it22:42
valorieyes, I saw that and circled him as well22:42
ahoneybungetting more and more :)22:42
valorieyup, nothing succeeds like success!22:42
valorieand success is more people involved, as well as better docs22:43
ahoneybunyep seems we are getting noticed22:44
valorieindeed, and it might be time to write to the users list as well22:44
valoriesome people can at least contribute screenshots22:45
ahoneybunvalorie: can you use trello to show me what content to move and where for that best of page?22:45
valorieand fix typos22:45
valorieI'll look and see what I can do22:46
ahoneybunI'm subscribed to the user list now22:47
valorieok, I've made a card, but I don't know how to make those little # of # task icons22:48
ahoneybunI do22:50
ahoneybunI made some more cards22:50
ahoneybunto show examples22:51
valoriecool22:51
Riddellhas there been a decision on how docs will be hosted?  a wiki chosen?22:52
valorieno, but we're all pretty sure we want something completely under Kubuntu control22:53
valoriewhich means paying for hosting i guess22:54
valorieI believe Darkwing will be coming up with a proposal22:54
ahoneybunvalorie: Darkwing said that he would make a blueprint22:57
ahoneybunalso a game page? or office page?22:58
valorieyes22:58
ahoneybunbut what games? the default KDE ones?22:58
valorieisn't it possible in trello to make subpages?22:59
valoriedepends on what we package by default22:59
valorieand perhaps we can ask the users to vote for their favorites that they install?22:59
ahoneybunwell there are checklists idk22:59
ahoneybunI need to know what to include on those pages, krita, gimp?23:00
valorieand we'll have to say something about wine/steam23:00
ahoneybuninkscape23:00
valoriekickoff has a graphics section23:00
ahoneybunsteam is hard to install kinda23:00
valorieall those will go in there23:00
ahoneybunoh23:00
valorieso maybe link to a page about just that? how to install steam?23:00
ahoneybunso put the categoires to pages?23:01
valorieif it's a really good page, it will get found from google searches23:01
valorie:-)23:01
valoriebleah, i really don't know how to use trello except in the most beginnerish way23:02
ahoneybunyou have to install the ubuntu software center to install steam23:02
ahoneybunvalorie: same here really23:02
valorieewww, why?23:02
valorieI hate that bloody thing23:03
ahoneybunidk why23:03
valoriethat's bizarre23:03
ahoneybunyou can not find it in muon23:03
ahoneybunanywhere23:03
ahoneybuneven with the same repos23:03
valorieour devels should fix that!23:03
valoriejontheechidna isn't here though23:04
ahoneybunI think Ubuntu devels did that somehow23:04
ahoneybunanyway23:04
valorieyes, separate question23:05
ahoneybunthere are going to be a lot of pages for all those categories23:06
ahoneybunOffice, Graphics, Games, Internet, Multimedia?23:07
valorieyes, is there any reason not to have all the pages?23:09
soeeahoneybun, why do you need to install usc to get steam ?23:09
valoriethese aren't pages which will be included in our dvd23:09
ahoneybunsoee: I don't know23:09
valoriejust on the wiki23:09
soeehttp://store.steampowered.com/about/23:09
soeei would go there grab it and install23:09
ahoneybunI can't find it in any muon software, apt-get23:10
ahoneybunsoee: I already have it installed then I removed isc23:10
ahoneybunusc23:10
valorieis there a steam repository?23:10
ahoneybunvalorie: so just fill this up and then we will hand pick off of it?23:11
ahoneybunfor the dvd23:11
valoriewell, I think Darkwing wants just a very short, very general doc for the dvd, that will change little to none over time23:12
valoriereally it will just be a link to our docs, which can continue to change with the times23:12
ahoneybunvalorie: thats what I'm saying the wiki will be deep but the dvd content will be short23:13
valorieI wouldn't worry about that now23:13
valoriejust make our wiki content as rich and good as possible23:13
ahoneybunso make as many pages as we want?23:13
valorieyes23:13
ahoneybunoh ok23:13
valorieimo, each page should be short and wonderful23:14
valoriewow, really raining hard here now23:14
valorieyet still sunny23:15
valorierainbow time!23:15
ahoneybunvalorie: check the trello23:16
valoriesuper, that's what I mean23:17
valoriemeant23:17
ahoneybunsweet23:18
ahoneybunlike /Software/Office?23:18
ahoneybunvalorie: /Software/Managing for the managin repo and such content?23:24
valorieI'm not following23:25
valoriemy idea wasn't about reorganizing the content that we already have23:26
valoriebut about adding pages based on our kickoff categories23:27
ahoneybunthere is content on the /Basic page with managing repos and software23:27
valorieif we want to link to them from our Basic page etc., great23:27
ahoneybunI moved the content from the Basic page to make it smaller23:27
valorieso your question above, I'm not sure what you are asking23:28
ahoneybuncheck the pages and trello23:28
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valorieI don't see how managing fits into this scheme23:30
ahoneybundealing with softwar23:32
ahoneybune23:32
ahoneybunok nevermind23:33
ahoneybunvalorie: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Software23:43
valorienice!23:48
* valorie sets to work23:48
valorieoops, time for dinner23:52
ahoneybunok talk later?23:52
ahoneybunwait23:52
ahoneybunyou were editing that page23:52

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