[02:13] back all [02:37] valorie: ping [04:03] Anyone wants to merge lightdm-kde, feel free. [04:37] ::qt-bugs:: [1180067] No icons on buttons @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1180067 (by GamePad64) [04:41] ahoneybun: pong [04:41] ScottK: can you do the pykde4 merge? [04:41] I can take up lightdm then [04:42] We can leave pykde4 for a bit. [04:42] okay [04:42] I'll take care of it when the time comes. [04:42] cool [04:42] It'll be easier once Debian switches to python3.3 be default. [04:42] I see, best to add that to the trello card? [04:43] Please do. [04:43] done [04:44] card assigned to you [04:44] K. [04:47] bah [04:47] someone already merged blinken [04:47] Riddell: ^ please be moving trello cards from TODO === frederik is now known as fregl [08:19] shadeslayer_: oh mm sorry about that === mck182 is now known as mck182_ [09:38] good morning [09:52] Riddell: already moved btw :) [09:53] * Peace- working in my wallpaper http://susepaste.org/814385 [10:05] 'Morning folks [10:30] agateau, is it possitle to trigger homerun when moving cursor to some screen corner ? [11:30] 07:59 [xs4all] -!- - [11:31] Hmm not sure why Kitty pasted that.. Guess I'm not familliar with Windows ssh clients... :( [11:38] soee: no it's not possible [11:48] Quintasan: ASUS wants to charge me 30 USD for a new cable for the TF101 [11:48] just a cable mind you [11:48] wat [11:48] wat [11:48] wat [11:48] ::workspace-bugs:: [982889] X trying to start before plymouth has finished using the drm driver @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/982889 (by Tomas Vanderka) [11:48] wat [11:48] no charger or anything [11:49] yeah [11:49] errr [11:49] I'd tell them to go to hell [11:49] ^^ [11:49] though ebay agrees [11:49] Quintasan: http://www.ebay.in/itm/USB-Charger-Data-Sync-Cable-for-ASUS-Eee-Pad-Tablet-Transformer-TF101-TF20-GRK-/271170858728?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_203&hash=item3f230aeee8 [11:52] dx.com seems to have cheaper deals === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [14:52] Anybody have a link to the etherpad from the Kubuntu Saucy Mumble meeting? [15:00] https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-uds-saucy [15:00] thanks [15:00] apachelogger volunteered to turn them into trello items [15:01] oh, forgot about that. he did turn them in to trello items [15:01] So for a whole-version Muon SRU, we'd need approval from somebody, right? [15:02] JontheEchidna: yes, depending on what it is [15:02] JontheEchidna: if it adds new features then tech board I guess [15:02] no new features [15:02] JontheEchidna: if it's just bug fixes then the normal ~ubuntu-sru [15:02] oh, cool [15:14] Actually ... [15:15] mm? [15:15] JontheEchidna and Riddell: What we want to get is a micro release exception from the tech board. [15:15] for Muon? [15:15] That way we can get whole versions through without having to verify every single change. [15:15] Yes.. [15:15] haha, was about to dput. good you came when you did [15:15] Also phonon, akonadi, and maybe other stuff. [15:15] soprano [15:16] apachelogger volunteered to make a list and I volunteered to go argue with the TB. [15:16] shadeslayer: Tell apachelogger. [15:16] maybe get a micro release exception for everything KDE under our packagset? [15:16] JontheEchidna: Go ahead. We'll call this one a proof of concept. [15:16] shadeslayer: No, needs to be stuff who's upstream micro-version update policy is consistent with SRU policy. [15:16] shadeslayer: that would be a big ask [15:17] on that note, new kdevelop [15:17] ScottK: ahhh [15:17] IIRC phonon switched to such a policy. [15:17] KDE SC had to have a policy before we could get the MRE for it. [15:19] I've more or less had such a policy with Muon/LibQApt even if it hasn't been in writing [15:20] oh yeah, we want both the muon and qapt source packages on the micro release exception list [15:21] hi Knarf [15:21] hi Riddell [15:22] the soprano version provided by k/ubuntu has some problems; is it possible to get the latest stable version anywhere? [15:24] Knarf: you think you need 2.9.2? [15:26] Riddell: i am really enjoying with kubuntu on i7 :D with everything activated http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hv8KZPOau4 this is the radeon driver for ati hd 7650 [15:26] Riddell: yes, I've been debugging some software with him and the conclusion was (together with vHanda) that the version you're offering is broken [15:26] would be nice :) [15:27] Knarf, apol_: in kubuntu-ppa/updates enough or in ubuntu archive raring-updates? [15:28] when I spoke to vHanda about it he said kubuntu-ppa/updates was fine as it was only needed for a few newer bits of software [15:30] ah ah [15:57] Knarf: in backport PPA https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+packages?field.name_filter=soprano&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter= [15:57] shortly to arrive in updates too https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa/ [15:58] golly it even compiled already on amd64 === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter === greyback is now known as greyback|food [16:41] ~karma [16:41] fabio123 has neutral karma [16:41] ~karma fabio123 [16:41] fabio123 has neutral karma === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna === greyback|food is now known as greyback [18:01] hey all [18:05] hey valorie [18:21] Good evening. [18:36] apachelogger: I'm looking into upstreaming the kdepimlibs patch you gave me (it did seem to reduce crashiness) http://paste.kde.org/749594/raw/ and I noticed that in trunk there's been a fair bit of rewriting: http://paste.debian.net/7650/ (diff relative to the patched version). Do you think the patch still applies to trunk or do the changes in trunk suggest more about what ought to be done? === ahoneybun_ is now known as ahoneybun === greyback is now known as greyback|away [19:46] howdy people [19:47] Hey ahoneybun, how are you? [19:49] lordievader: fine, yourself [19:49] Tired, further more good. [19:49] I'm really great right now [19:51] switch ROMs on my phone and I'm loving it [19:55] lordievader: do you have the kubuntu-docs from lp? [19:55] I'm sorry, what? [19:58] lordievader: the branch on launchpad [19:58] Yes? [19:59] oh so you have all the files and such from the kubuntu-docs branch? [19:59] Euhmm no. Should I? [20:00] oh ok [20:00] I just wanted to see if you could help out in one section on the docs [20:00] the Getting Involved page [20:01] ahoneybun: Sure, I'd like to get more involved :) [20:02] lordievader: I have copied the main branch and made my own changes into my own branch [20:02] it has the original docs as well but reordered too [20:03] What kind of changes are we talking about here? Can they not be done frome the web-interface? [20:03] ahoneybun: What ROM did you switch to? And what phone? [20:03] lordievader: to the branch or the page? [20:03] jessie: Samsung Galaxy Nexus (toro) AOKP [20:04] ahoneybun: To the branch. Wait... I guess I'm confused. [20:04] ahoneybun: The branch, what kubuntu-doc is that? The help files you have locally on a kubuntu pc? [20:05] Ok the content on the wiki pages are mostly from the branch's text files [20:05] the kubuntu-docs branch has the stuff that would be on the system on a fresh install [20:05] THe help files? [20:06] lordievader: pretty much how to do this, where to get that [20:06] and such [20:06] almost all of that text on the wiki pages are copied from the kubuntu-docs branch files [20:06] lordievader: this is my branch https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-docs/saucy [20:07] it has all the content from the original just reordered for the redesign we are planning [20:08] man coping the github for AOKP takes a long time [20:09] I'm not really up to speed with the docs. What kind of redesign are you planning? [20:10] lordievader: well at the current state they are using docbook xml, but we are going to move them to html and host them on the wiki and a site just for them [20:10] thats my understanding [20:11] Ah, and you where searching for a way to present them in the installer right? Believe I read those mails. [20:12] well not really looking for that, they we talking about putting a video in the installer if a internet connection was made [20:13] ahoneybun: Anyhow, I'd love to help out. However for today I'm too tired. Mind if we continue this conversation tommorow (perhaps using some voice-communication)? [20:13] lordievader: sure I [20:13] if you can lets use Google Hangout if possible [20:15] ahoneybun: I suppose that is possible, my g+ is https://plus.google.com/104311203579449088245 [20:16] lordievader: ok thanks [20:17] lordievader: I have you in a circle === greyback|away is now known as greyback === greyback is now known as greyback|away [22:34] valorie: ping [22:34] pong [22:35] how are you this afternoon, ahoneybun? [22:35] valorie: great, yourslef? [22:35] yourself [22:36] good [22:36] I had a great idea as I was falling asleep the other night about the docs but I didn't turn on the light and write it down! [22:36] good [22:37] oh [22:37] darn [22:37] I think it was mostly about pages for art, games, and I'm not sure what else [22:37] sort of a "best of" page for each major grouping [22:38] maybe following the kickoff grouping? [22:38] like: what we include by default, and what other greatest hits could be added [22:38] that is a great idea [22:39] keep them short as far as text, with just some screenies and links to sites/docs/manuals [22:39] and like maybe stuff like skype that's a bit involved to install [22:40] yes [22:40] that would take a bit of the load off our Basic page [22:41] true [22:41] right now I'm working on the Getting Involved page [22:41] personally, I think the more images and links and the less text, the better [22:41] if you want to do that maybe? [22:41] easier to get translated [22:42] currently lordievader wished to get move involved with helping I'm going to talk to him more tomorrow about it [22:42] yes, I saw that and circled him as well [22:42] getting more and more :) [22:42] yup, nothing succeeds like success! [22:43] and success is more people involved, as well as better docs [22:44] yep seems we are getting noticed [22:44] indeed, and it might be time to write to the users list as well [22:45] some people can at least contribute screenshots [22:45] valorie: can you use trello to show me what content to move and where for that best of page? [22:45] and fix typos [22:46] I'll look and see what I can do [22:47] I'm subscribed to the user list now [22:48] ok, I've made a card, but I don't know how to make those little # of # task icons [22:50] I do [22:50] I made some more cards [22:51] to show examples [22:51] cool [22:52] has there been a decision on how docs will be hosted? a wiki chosen? [22:53] no, but we're all pretty sure we want something completely under Kubuntu control [22:54] which means paying for hosting i guess [22:54] I believe Darkwing will be coming up with a proposal [22:57] valorie: Darkwing said that he would make a blueprint [22:58] also a game page? or office page? [22:58] yes [22:58] but what games? the default KDE ones? [22:59] isn't it possible in trello to make subpages? [22:59] depends on what we package by default [22:59] and perhaps we can ask the users to vote for their favorites that they install? [22:59] well there are checklists idk [23:00] I need to know what to include on those pages, krita, gimp? [23:00] and we'll have to say something about wine/steam [23:00] inkscape [23:00] kickoff has a graphics section [23:00] steam is hard to install kinda [23:00] all those will go in there [23:00] oh [23:00] so maybe link to a page about just that? how to install steam? [23:01] so put the categoires to pages? [23:01] if it's a really good page, it will get found from google searches [23:01] :-) [23:02] bleah, i really don't know how to use trello except in the most beginnerish way [23:02] you have to install the ubuntu software center to install steam [23:02] valorie: same here really [23:02] ewww, why? [23:03] I hate that bloody thing [23:03] idk why [23:03] that's bizarre [23:03] you can not find it in muon [23:03] anywhere [23:03] even with the same repos [23:03] our devels should fix that! [23:04] jontheechidna isn't here though [23:04] I think Ubuntu devels did that somehow [23:04] anyway [23:05] yes, separate question [23:06] there are going to be a lot of pages for all those categories [23:07] Office, Graphics, Games, Internet, Multimedia? [23:09] yes, is there any reason not to have all the pages? [23:09] ahoneybun, why do you need to install usc to get steam ? [23:09] these aren't pages which will be included in our dvd [23:09] soee: I don't know [23:09] just on the wiki [23:09] http://store.steampowered.com/about/ [23:09] i would go there grab it and install [23:10] I can't find it in any muon software, apt-get [23:10] soee: I already have it installed then I removed isc [23:10] usc [23:10] is there a steam repository? [23:11] valorie: so just fill this up and then we will hand pick off of it? [23:11] for the dvd [23:12] well, I think Darkwing wants just a very short, very general doc for the dvd, that will change little to none over time [23:12] really it will just be a link to our docs, which can continue to change with the times [23:13] valorie: thats what I'm saying the wiki will be deep but the dvd content will be short [23:13] I wouldn't worry about that now [23:13] just make our wiki content as rich and good as possible [23:13] so make as many pages as we want? [23:13] yes [23:13] oh ok [23:14] imo, each page should be short and wonderful [23:14] wow, really raining hard here now [23:15] yet still sunny [23:15] rainbow time! [23:16] valorie: check the trello [23:17] super, that's what I mean [23:17] meant [23:18] sweet [23:18] like /Software/Office? [23:24] valorie: /Software/Managing for the managin repo and such content? [23:25] I'm not following [23:26] my idea wasn't about reorganizing the content that we already have [23:27] but about adding pages based on our kickoff categories [23:27] there is content on the /Basic page with managing repos and software [23:27] if we want to link to them from our Basic page etc., great [23:27] I moved the content from the Basic page to make it smaller [23:28] so your question above, I'm not sure what you are asking [23:28] check the pages and trello === apol__ is now known as apol [23:30] I don't see how managing fits into this scheme [23:32] dealing with softwar [23:32] e [23:33] ok nevermind [23:43] valorie: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Software [23:48] nice! [23:48] * valorie sets to work [23:52] oops, time for dinner [23:52] ok talk later? [23:52] wait [23:52] you were editing that page