[00:06] <fractaline> valorie,  didn't work,  it said login incorrect...   :/
[00:06] <valorie> remember you have to login as yourself
[00:06] <valorie> but now, it's time for my dinner, sorry
[00:07] <fractaline> no worries,   one must eat
[00:08] <fractaline> i get what i did wrong
[00:21] <jmrbcu> hi every one
[00:29] <Rafael_Neri> hi
[01:12] <Scunizi> hopefully someone will be awake :).. Dolphin has just started freezing on me. If I start it from cli the 1st output line is "dolphin(5478) kxmlgui::actionlist::plug: Index 19 is not within range (0-11"  then "QPixmap::scaled" Pixmap is a null pixmap. This is right after opening it.  How do I fix it?
[02:03] <fractaline> valorie, didn't work from tty,  ( i realized after that it was simply because i didn't do mkdir ~/.kde-old first)  but i did the cheeky thing and just renamed it from dolphin then quickly logged out,  which worked.   the fresh .kde is without the said glitch.
[02:06] <fractaline> but i'm still feeling the need to do a clean install as there are other "artifacts" from ubuntu... e.g. nautilus is seen running in system activity but is not present in app list...
[02:08] <fractaline> and i cant seem to get rid of the cairo(gnome) login option from login screen.   it's all just a bit messy in there.  :/
[02:11] <fractaline> my current question is that if i install clean and use a backup of /home (eg copy it to it's own partition)  will i be importing the issues along with it??
[02:11]  * fractaline has a head that's spinning
[02:12] <ahoneybun> fractaline: there are certain config files that could be in the /home directory
[02:13] <ahoneybun> that could bring a issue over
[02:13] <fractaline> that was mt concern
[02:13] <fractaline> *my
[02:14] <ahoneybun> I usually only copy directories (music, pictures, docs) and so forth
[02:14] <ahoneybun> just don't copy over hidden directory and files
[02:15] <fractaline> and just reinstall all the needed apps and reconfigure?
[02:15] <fractaline> i don't have that many to worry about currently so....  no real stress
[02:17] <fractaline> ahoneybun, did you happen to see the issue i was talking with valorie about?
[02:18] <ahoneybun> no I have not looked at the logs
[02:18] <fractaline> no worries
[02:19] <fractaline> i'm being haunted by the ghost of ubuntu's past
[02:19] <ahoneybun> cairo issues?
[02:19] <fractaline> i think so
[02:19] <fractaline> have you used cairo?
[02:20] <ahoneybun> nope
[02:21] <fractaline> i have a feeling my intel integrated graphics card is not liking it...  and compiz
[02:22] <fractaline> i do like eye candy but kwin/plasma has plenty
[02:24] <ahoneybun> yes it has a lot of what compiz can have
[02:24] <ahoneybun> or has I mean
[02:24] <fractaline> seems to use a lot les ram as well
[02:26] <fractaline> i've been impressed with how light kde is for how feature rich it is
[02:28] <ahoneybun> fractaline: kwin seems to have a lot more work being put into it then compiz
[02:28] <ahoneybun> IMO Ubuntu is silly for using compiz at all, but they have to as Unity is a plugin to compiz
[02:29] <fractaline> i see,  that makes sense.    i'll be glad to be rid of it
[02:33] <ahoneybun> I don't see it having very good performance, but I have not officially tested it
[02:35] <fractaline> i used it on mint and ubuntu, both of which i find rather boring without but the systems of both became very buggy  hence my joy in finding kde,  stability and customization
[02:36] <ahoneybun> yea KDE has customization for sure, Mint's work is top notch, kinda wish they we leading Ubuntu
[02:37] <ahoneybun> not sticking to the old desktop method though
[02:37] <fractaline> was it you that said mint kde was choppy?
[02:40] <ahoneybun> no I have not used Mint KDE to say anything good or bad
[02:40] <ahoneybun> I just perfer Kubuntu's pure KDE design
[02:41] <fractaline> it was Aethysius ....
[02:42] <Aethysius> I didn't care for Mint's play with KDE.
[02:42] <Aethysius> Kubuntu just integrates KDE and Ubuntu so well.
[02:43] <Aethysius> Oh, I feel kind of stupid for asking this, but how do you get to change the wallpaper in Kubuntu?
[02:43] <fractaline> default desktop settings
[02:44] <Aethysius> I thought that meant that it would set everything back to default, my mistake.
[02:45] <fractaline> so, i have an extended partion in which there is a 62gig, a 95gig, both ext4 and 4gig swap.  does it seem reasonable to use the 60gig for /home and 95gog for /   ??
[02:47] <fractaline> i should probably shrink my windows partition as it does not really deserve 290 gig....
[02:48] <ahoneybun> 60GB for / and 95Gb for /home is what I would do, you really only need 25 for the / for the bare minimal
[02:48] <fractaline> i was just being cautious in the beginning,  but now i'd certainly rather not boot it at all
[02:48] <ahoneybun> Aethysius: I don't like to have GTK apps on a Qt system unless they are the best for the job
[02:48] <ahoneybun> GIMP, Inkscape
[02:48] <fractaline> boot windows that is
[02:49] <ahoneybun> oh
[02:49] <ahoneybun> fractaline: you want to remove windows? or just make it smaller?
[02:49] <fractaline> just smaller for now
[02:50] <ahoneybun> oh not sure how that will work
[02:50] <ahoneybun> I know you can do it
[02:50] <fractaline> +1 about the gtk apps
[02:51] <fractaline> it's how i did it originally,  just shrunk it
[02:53] <fractaline> what would be the risk?
[02:59] <ahoneybun> fractaline: I'm not sure, I just deleted windows by reformating my HDD with just Kubuntu
[03:04] <fractaline> good man   ;)
[03:05] <ahoneybun> lol yep
[03:15] <Aethysius> I kinda want to do a fresh install of Kubuntu, but I don't want all my settings to die.
[03:16] <Aethysius> Also, I'm too lazy.
[03:16] <tsimpson> Aethysius: that's why it's recommended to have a separate /home
[03:17] <Aethysius> I do.
[03:17] <tsimpson> then your personal settings are safe, stored under /home/<you>
[03:18] <Aethysius> Oh, I see.
[03:18] <Aethysius> Thanks for that info.
[03:18] <Aethysius> I feel rather foolish.
[05:53] <Aethysius> There we go.
[06:19] <fractaline> Aethysius,  where?
[06:19] <Aethysius> Pardon?
 There we go.
[06:21] <Aethysius> Freshly installed Kubuntu.
[06:21] <fractaline> sweet
[06:21] <Aethysius> Yeah, except Muon's being a bitch.
[06:21] <fractaline> feel better?
[06:22]  * Aethysius shrugs
[06:22] <fractaline> hmm,  how so?
[06:22] <Aethysius> It's more streamlined now.
[06:22] <Aethysius> It's hanging, Muon that is.
[06:22] <Aethysius> Just not DLing.
[06:23] <fractaline> software center?
[06:23] <fractaline> or package manager?
[06:24] <fractaline> or update manager?   lol
[06:25] <Aethysius> Software Center.
[06:26] <Aethysius> I'm trying the package manager now.
[06:26] <valorie> I prefer that one
[06:26] <valorie> I don't like "app stores"
[06:26] <Aethysius> Yeah.
[06:26] <valorie> most people seem to prefer that way though
[06:27] <Aethysius> I like Synaptic better, actually.
[06:27] <valorie> I used to
[06:27] <valorie> but I use cli/Muon package mgr now
[06:27] <valorie> synaptic is ugly
[06:27] <fractaline> it is
[06:27] <fractaline> hi valorie
[06:28] <fractaline> software center is ok for browsing...
[06:29] <Aethysius> It says Waiting for transactions to finish, but I don't see any conflicts....to the monitor I go!
[06:30] <Aethysius> Ah, there we go.
[06:41] <marszhao_> ?
[07:09] <algrio> hello
[07:10] <n8w> hey
[07:11] <n8w> is there any way how to automatically remove old notifications from the notification widget?
[07:11] <n8w> kde 4.10.2
[08:00] <zoie> hi, what happens when i start a program from krunner? i have a program which doesn't work when i start it from a konsole, but which works when i start it from krunner :( i don't understand why
[09:17] <alvin> I guess the relevant .desktop file contains some options that you're not giving on the command line
[09:21] <spotz> hi, why aren't radio available on spotify 0.9.0.133 on kubuntu 13.04?
[09:32] <hateball> spotz: nothing to do with kubuntu. but it's a bug in spotify
[09:33] <hateball> spotz: this thread suggests a workaround, hadnt seen that before http://community.spotify.com/t5/Help-Desktop-Linux-Mac-and/Linux-0-9-0-133-Artist-Radio-broken/td-p/397726
[09:35] <hateball> spotz: And I just verified the workaround works for me at least, being on swedish locale originally
[09:36] <spotz> hateball: thanks a lot, works for me as well
[09:37] <spotz> the wine version was annoying because didn't know how to block ads
[09:39] <hateball> heh, I pay to block ads. seems to work ;p
[09:51] <dmitry> привееет)
[09:51] <spotz> hateball: i use spotify-admute.sh, it doesn't block them but just mute, good enough for now :)
[10:05] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:01] <Guest23910> Am I right that this isn't normal (Missing KDE button) ? http://imgur.com/xwjx7DA
[12:03] <Dudalus> Well....Kubuntu installation with dualscreen is a bit weird
[12:52] <eleve> .
[12:52] <Aethysius> !
[13:29] <bandibp> Hello, I am unable to get to the login screen on kubuntu 13.04 after an update today. Kernel was also updated, but after the kubuntu splash i get a blank screen. I got to CLI where i tried fixing packages, dependencies etc. with no success. apt-get install -f runs depmod but is unable to set up 4 packages (all of them linux-image-3.8.0-22-generic etc) What can I do? All help appreciated. Sry if I am doing this help request wrong.
[14:15] <Aethysius> I have an issue with getting a printer to work.
[14:15] <Aethysius> Could anyone help me?
[14:17] <fractaline> hey man what's up?
[14:18] <fractaline> are you on 64bit?
[14:18] <fractaline> Aethysius, ?
[14:18] <Aethysius> I have a brother DCP-7030, which doesn't have automatically installed drivers, and I've installed the drivers for it, but it doesn't print; the print queue automatically clears.
[14:18] <Aethysius> Without printing.
[14:19] <fractaline> sorry not my area...
[14:20] <Aethysius> Dammit.
[14:20]  * fractaline wonders what his area is.
[14:20] <Aethysius> I am on 64 bit.
[14:20] <fractaline> ;)
[14:20] <fractaline> i've heard that is one of the drawbacks
[14:20] <fractaline> of 64 bti that is
[14:21] <Aethysius> Have a quadcore 3.2 GHz AMD Phenom, with 16 GB of RAM.
[14:21] <Aethysius> Oh, yeah.
[14:21] <fractaline> printer drivers...
[14:32] <Aethysius> Had to do it in Konsole.
[15:35] <Alex_Zion> I guys , since few weeks , I have a strange behavior in Kubuntu. Any time I open a link from some KDE apps, it downloads the page and show me the Temp file on my browser
[15:36] <Alex_Zion> How can I fix it , is really an horrible things , and I didn't find any reasons or settings to it ..., someone can help me please ...
[15:42] <BluesKaj> Alex_Zion, a link from some KDE apps ?
[15:43] <ed9876434567654> somebody help me, music playback on my kubuntu install is not so great compared same machine running win7, tried several flac files and they sound really poor on linux, they even sound better on my android tablet? any ideas why and how to fix this?
[15:43] <Alex_Zion> yeah , if I open a link from here (quassel) for example , or even from akregator ......
[15:45] <BluesKaj> ed9876434567654, bad audio qulity , please describe
[15:45] <Alex_Zion> BluesKaj:  I'm using chromium as a default browser , can be thisone the problem ?
[15:47] <BluesKaj> Alex_Zion, never heard of that , try firefox as default and see what happens with it
[15:47] <ed9876434567654> not sure how, its like depth maybe, basicly everythin on linux sound like 128kbps mp3, really low quality, low bass
[15:47] <ed9876434567654> BluesKaj, not sure how, its like depth maybe, basicly everythin on linux sound like 128kbps mp3, really low quality, low bass
[15:48] <BluesKaj> ed9876434567654, what about the volume ctrls in alsamixer , are they turned up to at least 85%
[15:48] <Alex_Zion> yeah BluesKaj I will , but anyway it always open files from file:///var/tmp/kdecache-*****/krun/.........................
[15:50] <ed9876434567654> BluesKaj yes, they are
[15:50] <BluesKaj> and kmix?
[15:51] <Alex_Zion> BluesKaj:  the krun on my path is not a Krunner foder ? , or it is ?
[15:51] <ed9876434567654> yes
[15:54] <BluesKaj> Alex_Zion, for some reason the link is calling a tmp file , temporary ...why?  I have no idea
[15:54] <Alex_Zion> BluesKaj: it seems to work with Firefox as a default browser ..., so the problem is once again chromium ....., and I really hate firefox in kde , is horrible and doesn't work really well ....
[15:55] <Alex_Zion> and rekonq is not ready yet ....
[15:55] <Alex_Zion> so I have no choise at moment ..... :(
[15:56] <BluesKaj> Alex_Zion, I find the opposite FF works well in KDE as long as your gtk settings are setup in system settings > application appearance
[15:56] <Alex_Zion> well , I cannot use Firefox in this way , so probably is much better copy and paste the link I need to open......
[15:57] <Alex_Zion> BluesKaj: in Firefox very often I cannot open menus and the only chance to keep using it is to restart it ...., so you can just Image how unconfortable it is .....
[15:57] <BluesKaj> chromium doesn't integrate as well , IME ...unreadable tab fonts on large monitors
[15:58] <Alex_Zion> In my case Chromium has ..., well had ..., the best integration , much bettere than firefox that for me is really unusable .. BluesKaj
[15:59] <BluesKaj> Alex_Zion, then FF must be corrupted
[16:00] <BluesKaj> ed9876434567654, do you have a pci soundcard , separate from the onboard chip ?
[16:00] <Alex_Zion> I don't know , but I leave Firefox since a lot , because in my opinion is getting worst any release..., saying worst I mean that is going to be something different than a browser ....., and I want just a browser ...
[16:01] <Alex_Zion> I was hoping on Chromium , but since months it seems is getting worst .....
[16:02] <Alex_Zion> are months there is a problem with flash still there , and now this problem .....
[16:03] <ed9876434567654> BluesKaj I have an integrated intel card  HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
[16:04] <Alex_Zion> anyway , maybe one they even KDE will have a real and complete browser to use .....; I really hope so becauso is something really missing on KDE, and please don't say nothing about rekonq ..., is not ready yet ....
[16:04] <BluesKaj> ed9876434567654, which player are you using to play flac files on linux , amarok ?
[16:06] <ed9876434567654> BluesKaj I have tried amarok, also audacious, even vlc, it all sound the same
[16:11] <BluesKaj> sounds like pulseaudio might be to blame , try removing pulseaudio and playing with just pure alsa , you'll probly lose your webaudio playback , but it's worth the test to track this problem down
[16:11] <BluesKaj> ed9876434567654,^
[16:18] <BluesKaj> BBL...
[16:20] <ed9876434567654> BluesKaj I have done that and not sure it sound somewhat louder and better though still not as good as the tablet playback, maybe I try playing with the equaliser or smth
[16:37] <rance> I'm having issues using the "host" command from a bash script in kubuntu.  It appears that the outout of host is different depending on if its running in an interactive shell or a script.
[16:48] <bbeck> rance: What do you mean exactly.  If I run "host www.google.com" from command line or put it into a bash script I get the same output.
[16:51] <rance> bbeck:  I am working on an rbl monitoring script and it is using 'host' to query the rbls for a specfic ip.  Run from the interactive shell I get one response, and from the script I get a different one.  EX from the command line host returns "Host X not found..." or reports a local ip like 127.0.0.2
[16:52] <rance> the shell script reports all hosts found and returns the ip being checked, not the 127.0.0.x which is correct
[17:51] <skreech__> rance: What level of the shell script is it running from?
[17:52] <rance> its called from the main part of the script with a syntax like RESULT=$(syscall)
[17:57] <skreech__> rance: the $() is what is making it fail
[17:57] <skreech__> it's going into a subshell with limited access to the resources
[18:00] <rance> ok, I thought that was the standard way to capture the output of the command
[18:18] <skreech__> rance: yes but it does have some subtle changes. it's the same as logging in as daemon it has no environment around it. and your HOST is part of the environment
[18:18] <skreech__> rance: You can jump into #bash and ask them they are very harsh in there but very helpful
[18:19] <rance> cool
[18:19] <rance> thanks for the warning
[18:21] <lordievader> Good evening.
[19:46] <cpxrc> join #xkcd-signal
[21:12] <MySystem> hello i have a problem with my kubuntu 13.04 and vlc after 20min or so i get screen locked by multimediapc and if i move the cursor the password&lock dialog dissappiers and video is on top
[21:19] <ahoneybun> MySystem: so your computer locks up after 20 mins using vlc
[21:19] <ahoneybun> ?
[21:20] <MySystem> while vlc is playing
[21:20] <MySystem> or if nothing is runnning (then i could understand it)
[21:25] <MySystem> i searched all the options from kde but havent found it switched off all energie options
[21:26] <fractaline>  MySystem  did you look in vlc?
[21:29] <MySystem> a short look yes but cant imagine where
[21:38] <MySystem> thought this problem is well known
[21:42] <BluesKaj> MySystem, check the screensaver timing in screen locker setings in system settings >display and monitor
[21:43] <MySystem>  ahhhh blueskaj my hero
[21:44] <MySystem> 15min
[21:44] <fractaline> :)
[21:45] <fractaline> i can't seem to get login screen theme settings to stick
[21:45] <MySystem> its a bit hidden there under monitor only tooltip from monitor shows screen lock
[21:47] <fractaline> also, where are default/installed wallpapaers?    as in path
[21:55] <BluesKaj> MySystem, let's hope it works :)
[21:55] <BluesKaj> anyway ...dinner ...later folks
[21:56] <MySystem> think so in a few minutes the feeled time is reached
[21:56] <MySystem> but option looks right
[22:10] <ahoneybun> nice
[22:31] <rosco_y> I'd like to install a Wiki Server, can anyone recommend one for me?
[22:34] <ahoneybun> rosco_y: I hear mediawiki is execellent
[22:36] <rosco_y> ahoneybun: ty, I'm playing with mediawiki right now:  I like it quite a bit, but I'm checking to see if there are other, (possibly even better) alternatives, since I simply just installed the first thing I found.....
[22:36] <rosco_y> I suppose the fact that mediawiki was the first thing I found say something as well.....
[22:36] <ahoneybun> rosco_y: just saying I hear a lot of good stuff and I see it has a lot of good tools
[22:38] <rosco_y> ahoneybun: yes.  I'm finding a couple of things about it to be not very intuitivei--which I suppose shouldn't really be a problem since this is a single-user environment....I just want to use a wiki as a mind-mapping tool
[22:38] <rosco_y> for project and time management, and the like
[22:39] <ahoneybun> rosco_y: I don't know to much other then that
[22:40] <rosco_y> ahoneybun: ty--I probably will stick with mediawiki--nothing else is really popping up as "obviously better".....
[22:51] <kids> hello?
[22:52] <kStar_> hello
[22:55] <ahoneybun> kStar_: hello
[22:56] <kStar_> is there a way to list groups i can joined?
[22:58] <DarthFrog> kStar_:  You could use the /list command.   But you'll be inundated!
[22:59] <DarthFrog> kStar_:  If you're using Konversation, press F5.
[22:59] <kStar_> thanks
[23:03] <nborgror> hello
[23:04] <nborgror> someone here know how change bootscreen of kubuntu 13 ?
[23:07] <fractaline> nborgror, which one?   i have changed the grub background and the splashscreen but i can't seem to get the login screen to change
[23:07] <genii-around> I believe currently there are issues also with Kubuntu and plymouth
[23:08] <genii-around> eg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-settings/+bug/1172534
[23:10] <nborgror> fractaline: the grub background and bootsplash
[23:11] <nborgror> how change the grub background ?
[23:12] <nborgror> and also the bootsplash ?
[23:14] <fractaline> the easy way for grub is to put a suitable image in  /boot/grub   then in terminal    update grub
[23:15] <fractaline> system settings - workspace appearance for splashscreen
[23:16] <fractaline> but yeah... i've yet to find a way to get lightdm settings to stick
[23:17] <genii-around> And for changing the plymouth splash screen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth#Splash_Theme
[23:17] <nborgror> ok, I try
[23:18] <nborgror> fractaline: I must create directory /boot/grub ?
[23:19] <fractaline> no, it's there
[23:21] <nborgror> I put a image in what folder in /boot/grub/ ?
[23:21] <genii-around> It sort of sucks there are so many splash screens before the desktop comes up... grub->plymouth->lightdm->kubuntu-splash
[23:23] <genii-around> nborgror: To do that, you should either run dolphin with kdesudo dolphin, or else if in Konsole to do: sudo cp filename /boot/grub      (if you are in the same directory the file is in while in Konsole)
[23:23] <nborgror> ok
[23:23] <genii-around> Then you need to run: sudo update-grub
[23:26] <fractaline> genii-around, what is the difference between plymouth and lightdm?     oh,  plymouth is the kubuntu logo durring boot?
[23:27] <genii-around> fractaline: Yes, with those dots going by
[23:28] <fractaline> so any advice on getting lightdm settings to work?
[23:29] <fractaline> genii-around,
[23:30] <fractaline> it's currently the ugliest part of bootup for me.   won't use my custom images just reverts to a white background
[23:31] <nborgror> genii-around: there is a simple way to change plymouth ?
[23:33] <genii-around> nborgror: I gave you the official link just a little while ago :)
[23:35] <genii-around> So the short answer is, I guess: No, there is not a simple way
[23:38] <nborgror> ok thanks anyway
[23:44] <nborgror> fractaline: update grub don't work : no command 'update'
[23:45] <genii-around> nborgror: There's a hyphen. eg, EXACTLY:  sudo update-grub
[23:46] <nborgror> ok