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azend|irssiBobJonkman1: :)21:54
BobJonkman1Hi azend|irssi21:55
BobJonkman1Weekly meeting?!?21:56
azend|irssiIsn't this when you told me the next meeting is?21:56
BobJonkman1Go for it, I say.  Meeingology is on standby21:56
BobJonkman1That would have been the monthly meeting, for 27 June21:57
BobJonkman1But start the meeting, and do a roll call.  Let's see who shows up.21:57
azend|irssiBah! Bad wifi today21:59
azend|irssiBobJonkman1: heh oops21:59
azend|irssiah well21:59
BobJonkman1Did your WiFi blink out?22:00
BobJonkman1I said:22:00
BobJonkman1(2013-05-30 17:55:54) BobJonkman(Ubuntu): Hi azend|irssi22:00
BobJonkman1(2013-05-30 17:56:09) BobJonkman(Ubuntu): Weekly meeting?!?22:00
BobJonkman1(2013-05-30 17:56:45) azend|irssi: Isn't this when you told me the next meeting is?22:00
BobJonkman1(2013-05-30 17:56:51) BobJonkman(Ubuntu): Go for it, I say.  Meeingology is on standby22:00
BobJonkman1(2013-05-30 17:57:13) BobJonkman(Ubuntu): That would have been the monthly meeting, for 27 June22:00
BobJonkman1(2013-05-30 17:57:47) BobJonkman(Ubuntu): But start the meeting, and do a roll call.  Let's see who shows up.22:00
BobJonkman1(22:00
azend|irssiBobJonkman1: I've got the logs22:00
azend|irssiI just have packet loss22:00
BobJonkman1...of course...22:00
BobJonkman1Sounds painful.22:01
BobJonkman1Well, if you wan to give meetingology a spin, start 'er up!22:01
azend|irssiazend: azend|irssi BobJonkman1 bregma cyphermox DarwinSu1vivor egerlach FiReSTaRT genii-around IdleOne jaguar jlamothe KombuchaKip lubotu1 meetingology meetingology NCommander oracology ryanakca SergioMeneses sipherdee txwikinger ubuntulog zul22:03
azend|irssi#startmeeting22:04
meetingologyMeeting started Thu May 30 22:04:01 2013 UTC.  The chair is azend|irssi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.22:04
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BobJonkman1o/22:04
azend|irssiHello everyone!22:04
bregmaO/22:04
BobJonkman1Our first weekly meeting!22:04
azend|irssiIs everyone excited for a meeting! :D22:04
azend|irssiI appologize for the slow22:05
azend|irssiI'm experiencing high amounts of packet loss and I'm still new to meetingology22:05
BobJonkman1azend|irssi: Not to worry.  SInce no-one was expecting a meeting, no-one has high expectations.  Or any expectations, for that matter.22:06
BobJonkman1It'll be good practice for the next meeting.22:07
BobJonkman1Which might be next week??22:07
azend|irssi:P22:07
bregmais there an agenda?22:08
azend|irssiSo, did everyone read last meeting's notes?22:08
azend|irssi#chair22:08
meetingologyCurrent chairs: azend|irssi22:08
azend|irssiLast week's topics were: Stickers and posters22:09
* BobJonkman1 loves stickers22:10
azend|irssi#topic Stickerz!22:10
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-ca to: Stickerz!
azend|irssiI looked into getting some stickers from the same place as Diyode has purchased in the past22:11
BobJonkman1bregma: I don't think we have an agenda for today.22:11
azend|irssibregma: I'm faking it22:11
BobJonkman1I saw that Diyode has paper stickers and vinyl stickers22:11
azend|irssiwe do22:12
BobJonkman1I've got a paper sticker on my laptop, which is good enough there.  But paper stickers on my phone wear out22:12
azend|irssithe vinyl stickers are a lot better and are made of automobile grade vinyl22:12
BobJonkman1The sticker paper stays, but the printing wears off22:12
azend|irssithe paper ones are ok but they aren't as nice22:12
azend|irssiBobJonkman1: they sent us those by accident22:13
BobJonkman1Do you have an idea of the cost?22:13
azend|irssiI think it was around $50 without tax or shipping for 25022:14
azend|irssi250 or 30022:14
azend|irssiThey're based out of toronto so we could technically just go up and grab them22:14
azend|irssithat would be for a nice sized oval sticker22:14
azend|irssiand the ubuntu canada logo22:14
BobJonkman1Gord Campbell is in Toronto; he might be able to do that.22:14
BobJonkman1Gord was talking about setting up a Linux Hour for 1 July in Toronto...22:15
azend|irssiI volunteer myself to get the logo preped for print22:15
BobJonkman1azend|irssi: Got a design?22:15
azend|irssiBobJonkman1: yes.22:15
azend|irssiBobJonkman1: it's just the ubuntu-ca logo22:15
azend|irssiperhaps with a subtitle beneath it22:15
azend|irssi#action azend to look more into sticker prices22:16
meetingologyACTION: azend to look more into sticker prices22:16
azend|irssi#action azend to design a sticker for print and get acceptance from the group22:16
meetingologyACTION: azend to design a sticker for print and get acceptance from the group22:16
azend|irssi#action azend to send out an email about stickers he gets a chance22:17
meetingologyACTION: azend to send out an email about stickers he gets a chance22:17
azend|irssi#topic Posters22:17
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-ca to: Posters
azend|irssiI also brought up that we should make up some generic posters and other marketing materials last week to provide for groups around canada22:18
azend|irssiThese may take a bit longer but I can post what I have22:18
azend|irssiI designed a poster for the last ubuntu release party that I could distribute22:19
azend|irssiIt was made in non-free software so I'll export it to an SVG or something and post it to the mailing group22:20
azend|irssior to the ubuntu loco page22:20
azend|irssi#subtopic Banner designs22:22
BobJonkman1Are you thinking of huge posters like you have at Diyode? http://pix.ie/ubuntuca/3245549/in/album/46565422:22
BobJonkman1Or more of a handbill, 8.5" x 11"22:22
azend|irssiBobJonkman1: that would be cool but I don't think it would be of much use to most people22:22
azend|irssiI'm thinking like 8.5"x11" and maybe 11"x17"22:23
azend|irssiThe latter is getting more and more common in some cheap commercial printers22:23
azend|irssiBobJonkman1: what do you think the posters should have on them?22:24
genii-aroundSorry not to check in, had electrical work here to finish. I'll check backscroll22:25
BobJonkman1Hi genii-around!  Bye genii-around!22:25
azend|irssiWe could draw up some simple ones like for ubuntu release parties and ubuntu hours22:26
BobJonkman1azend|irssi: Posters should probably have some contact info, and maybe meeting info.22:26
azend|irssigenii-around: it's mostly me being stupid and me talking to myself22:26
azend|irssiBobJonkman1: true22:26
azend|irssiI wonder how we could incorporate that22:26
azend|irssijust out an inkscape svg?22:27
BobJonkman1That would work better if we were more consistent about dates and times for meetings (I'm thinking of the monthly meeting, which has bounced all over the calendar in the last couple of years)22:27
genii-aroundIf the place is here in Toronto, I'll throw in a few bucks if you like and ship em if i get to keep a few for the release-parties here22:27
azend|irssiawesome22:28
BobJonkman1We've been a little more consistent with contact people, mostly dscassel here in KW, genii-around in TO, and other people running the local chapters.22:28
genii-aroundazend|irssi: I'm also thinking 11x17 for posters btw22:29
* BobJonkman1 points at azend|irssi as Dear Leader for Ubuntu-ca-guelph :)22:29
genii-aroundazend|irssi: Glad to make your acquaintance!22:29
azend|irssiBobJonkman1: if I hand out the design files, people can put their own dates and contact information on them22:30
azend|irssiHi genii-around :)22:30
azend|irssiI think I've seen you around before22:30
IdleOneo/22:30
bregmais there an inkscape file or something for the poster(s)?22:30
* txwikinger takes over North Dumfries and Brant22:31
azend|irssibregma: that's what we're discussing22:31
azend|irssiI would like for us to have some promotional materials22:31
azend|irssi#info Posters must be in convenient sizes for the printer. Sizes will be decided on later22:33
azend|irssiDoes anyone have any ambitions to be come ubuntu canada poster famous and make us some posters? :D22:34
azend|irssiI think I'll postpone the vote for poster sizes to next week so that we can get more input on what may be convenient.22:35
* BobJonkman1 has the design skills of a brick.22:35
azend|irssiCan someone send an email to the list discussing the idea of posters and asking what size they should be?22:36
azend|irssiI can guess at what sizes most peoples printers may be but that may prove to not be very effective22:37
BobJonkman1azend|irssi: I can do that. It would be good if I can point people to an initial logo or something.22:37
azend|irssiIt would be nice to get some confirmation before continuing22:37
azend|irssiHelloo... :)22:38
BobJonkman1There are some logos (bitmaps) on the Ubuntu wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam?action=AttachFile22:38
azend|irssiBobJonkman1: It think we would be better off using that vector you found the other day22:38
* BobJonkman1 wishes he could remember where that was22:39
azend|irssiI'll check my logs later22:39
azend|irssi#action BobJonkman1 to post an email to the meeting list to ask about what sizes posters should be22:39
meetingologyACTION: BobJonkman1 to post an email to the meeting list to ask about what sizes posters should be22:39
azend|irssiDoes anyone have anything else to say on the topic?22:40
azend|irssi#meetingtopic Ubuntu CA Weekly Meeting 2013-05-3022:42
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-ca to: Ubuntu Canada LocoTeam | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam | Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Next meeting:Thur, 27 June 4pm PDT, 7pm EDT, 8:30pm NDT | Response may take a while, please wait for an answer! | Ubuntu CA Weekly Meeting 2013-05-30 | Current topic: Posters
azend|irssiwhoops22:42
azend|irssialmost forgot :P22:42
azend|irssialright22:43
azend|irssiIs there anything new to talk about?22:43
azend|irssiI would personally like to do a call out to see which groups in the ubuntu-ca community are currently active22:44
azend|irssiperhaps pull in some of the lurkers and get them active22:44
BobJonkman1As far as I know, Vancouver is pretty active, but doesn't do much nationally.22:44
BobJonkman1MLUG  (or MUMU) still meets every month in Mississauga, but doesn't do much nationally either.22:45
azend|irssi#topic Ubuntu CA Role Call22:45
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-ca to: Ubuntu Canada LocoTeam | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam | Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Next meeting:Thur, 27 June 4pm PDT, 7pm EDT, 8:30pm NDT | Response may take a while, please wait for an answer! | Ubuntu CA Weekly Meeting 2013-05-30 | Current topic: Ubuntu CA Role Call
azend|irssiBobJonkman1: that's cool22:45
azend|irssiwe should build a list somewhere22:45
BobJonkman1And it looks like Gord Cambell is trying to get Ubuntu-ca-TO doing something too.22:45
azend|irssiawesome22:46
azend|irssiIt sounds like we're on the edge of getting some new blood in here22:46
BobJonkman1There's a list of local chapters (in various states of activity) on the Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam#Canadian_Team_Chapters22:46
BobJonkman1I've added those chapters to the header file, so a list of local chapters shows on every page on the Wiki.22:47
BobJonkman1But you're right, some are so inactive as to not exist.22:47
azend|irssiBobJonkman1: I would like to assemble a list of linux groups in the area as well22:47
azend|irssiI'm not sure that this spot is the right place22:48
azend|irssibut maybe somewhere nerby22:48
azend|irssinearby22:48
azend|irssiEven just a list of Ubuntu CA connections22:48
BobJonkman1Here's a start: http://www.kwlug.org/node/40322:48
BobJonkman1Possibly another stale list, tho.22:48
azend|irssiBobJonkman1: awesome22:48
azend|irssisubmitted in 2006 :P22:49
BobJonkman1Used to be http://www.cluecan.ca/ was the authoritative source for LUGs22:49
azend|irssi#info BobJonkman1 brought up that KWLUG has assembled a list of people within their region that they are connected to http://www.kwlug.org/node/40322:50
BobJonkman1I've done a bit of updating to the KWLUG list more recently than 2006 :)22:50
azend|irssi#action azend to send out an email seeing who is still alive. Results will be talked about next meeting22:51
meetingologyACTION: azend to send out an email seeing who is still alive. Results will be talked about next meeting22:51
azend|irssiAnything else to talk about?22:51
BobJonkman1Ah, just found ClueCan's list: http://www.cluecan.ca/flexinode/table/122:51
azend|irssiBobJonkman1: anything you can think of?22:52
BobJonkman1Nope, I'm all idea'd out.22:52
* genii-around washes out the coffeepot22:52
BobJonkman1Mmm, coffee!22:53
genii-aroundOh, I'd like to push this petition again while there's some people breathing in here: http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/bell-canada-crtc-stop-bell-canada-cellpipe-7130-vdsl-8-00-forced-modem-rental-fee22:53
azend|irssi:)22:54
azend|irssiDarn you bell :)22:54
BobJonkman1genii-around: Without having looked myself, is this a push to get Bell to adhere to VDSL2 standard?22:54
genii-aroundBobJonkman1: No, although that would be good too. Right now you cannot purchase an outside VDSL@ modem that works with their linecards, then they force you to rent theirs ... you are not allowed to purchase theirs.22:55
BobJonkman1genii-around: When a third-party like Teksavvy tries to use Bell's VDSL2 connections, do they force you to rent a modem from Bell as well? Or will they sell you a (non-standard, crippled) modem?22:57
azend|irssiI hate rogers and bell but, before I descend into craziness, I think it's time to draw an end to this meeting22:57
azend|irssiThanks everyone for coming out!22:57
azend|irssiI hope to see you all soon!22:57
BobJonkman1Thanx for the meeting, azend|22:57
txwikingerThanks azend|irssi for running the meeting22:58
genii-aroundBobJonkman1: teksavvy has their own DSLAM which are true VDSL2/VDSL2+ standard so a regular modem works22:58
azend|irssi#endmeeting22:58
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-ca to: Ubuntu Canada LocoTeam | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam | Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Next meeting:Thur, 27 June 4pm PDT, 7pm EDT, 8:30pm NDT | Response may take a while, please wait for an answer!
meetingologyMeeting ended Thu May 30 22:58:46 2013 UTC.22:58
meetingologyMinutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-ca/2013/ubuntu-ca.2013-05-30-22.04.moin.txt22:58
meetingologyMinutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-ca/2013/ubuntu-ca.2013-05-30-22.04.html22:58
BobJonkman1genii-around: That's good.  I'll sign the petition, but I'm going to vote against Bell with my wallet.22:59
genii-aroundIn cases where they must use Bell's DSLAM, they have to rent the Bell modem same as regular customers22:59
BobJonkman1genii-around: Just tried to fill in that petition.  It's a horrible, Javascrippled site.  Whatever happened to accessible web forms?23:11
genii-aroundI know :(23:11
BobJonkman1And then there's the part where they hit you up for money to advertise...23:11
BobJonkman1azend|irssi: Will you be putting today's minutes on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings/2013-05-30 ?23:28

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