[21:54] <azend|irssi> BobJonkman1: :)
[21:55] <BobJonkman1> Hi azend|irssi
[21:56] <BobJonkman1> Weekly meeting?!?
[21:56] <azend|irssi> Isn't this when you told me the next meeting is?
[21:56] <BobJonkman1> Go for it, I say.  Meeingology is on standby
[21:57] <BobJonkman1> That would have been the monthly meeting, for 27 June
[21:57] <BobJonkman1> But start the meeting, and do a roll call.  Let's see who shows up.
[21:59] <azend|irssi> Bah! Bad wifi today
[21:59] <azend|irssi> BobJonkman1: heh oops
[21:59] <azend|irssi> ah well
[22:00] <BobJonkman1> Did your WiFi blink out?
[22:00] <BobJonkman1> I said:
[22:00] <BobJonkman1> (2013-05-30 17:55:54) BobJonkman(Ubuntu): Hi azend|irssi
[22:00] <BobJonkman1> (2013-05-30 17:56:09) BobJonkman(Ubuntu): Weekly meeting?!?
[22:00] <BobJonkman1> (2013-05-30 17:56:45) azend|irssi: Isn't this when you told me the next meeting is?
[22:00] <BobJonkman1> (2013-05-30 17:56:51) BobJonkman(Ubuntu): Go for it, I say.  Meeingology is on standby
[22:00] <BobJonkman1> (2013-05-30 17:57:13) BobJonkman(Ubuntu): That would have been the monthly meeting, for 27 June
[22:00] <BobJonkman1> (2013-05-30 17:57:47) BobJonkman(Ubuntu): But start the meeting, and do a roll call.  Let's see who shows up.
[22:00] <BobJonkman1> (
[22:00] <azend|irssi> BobJonkman1: I've got the logs
[22:00] <azend|irssi> I just have packet loss
[22:00] <BobJonkman1> ...of course...
[22:01] <BobJonkman1> Sounds painful.
[22:01] <BobJonkman1> Well, if you wan to give meetingology a spin, start 'er up!
[22:03] <azend|irssi> azend: azend|irssi BobJonkman1 bregma cyphermox DarwinSu1vivor egerlach FiReSTaRT genii-around IdleOne jaguar jlamothe KombuchaKip lubotu1 meetingology meetingology NCommander oracology ryanakca SergioMeneses sipherdee txwikinger ubuntulog zul
[22:04] <azend|irssi> #startmeeting
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[22:04] <BobJonkman1> o/
[22:04] <azend|irssi> Hello everyone!
[22:04] <bregma> O/
[22:04] <BobJonkman1> Our first weekly meeting!
[22:04] <azend|irssi> Is everyone excited for a meeting! :D
[22:05] <azend|irssi> I appologize for the slow
[22:05] <azend|irssi> I'm experiencing high amounts of packet loss and I'm still new to meetingology
[22:06] <BobJonkman1> azend|irssi: Not to worry.  SInce no-one was expecting a meeting, no-one has high expectations.  Or any expectations, for that matter.
[22:07] <BobJonkman1> It'll be good practice for the next meeting.
[22:07] <BobJonkman1> Which might be next week??
[22:07] <azend|irssi> :P
[22:08] <bregma> is there an agenda?
[22:08] <azend|irssi> So, did everyone read last meeting's notes?
[22:08] <azend|irssi> #chair
[22:08] <meetingology> Current chairs: azend|irssi
[22:09] <azend|irssi> Last week's topics were: Stickers and posters
[22:10]  * BobJonkman1 loves stickers
[22:10] <azend|irssi> #topic Stickerz!
[22:11] <azend|irssi> I looked into getting some stickers from the same place as Diyode has purchased in the past
[22:11] <BobJonkman1> bregma: I don't think we have an agenda for today.
[22:11] <azend|irssi> bregma: I'm faking it
[22:11] <BobJonkman1> I saw that Diyode has paper stickers and vinyl stickers
[22:12] <azend|irssi> we do
[22:12] <BobJonkman1> I've got a paper sticker on my laptop, which is good enough there.  But paper stickers on my phone wear out
[22:12] <azend|irssi> the vinyl stickers are a lot better and are made of automobile grade vinyl
[22:12] <BobJonkman1> The sticker paper stays, but the printing wears off
[22:12] <azend|irssi> the paper ones are ok but they aren't as nice
[22:13] <azend|irssi> BobJonkman1: they sent us those by accident
[22:13] <BobJonkman1> Do you have an idea of the cost?
[22:14] <azend|irssi> I think it was around $50 without tax or shipping for 250
[22:14] <azend|irssi> 250 or 300
[22:14] <azend|irssi> They're based out of toronto so we could technically just go up and grab them
[22:14] <azend|irssi> that would be for a nice sized oval sticker
[22:14] <azend|irssi> and the ubuntu canada logo
[22:14] <BobJonkman1> Gord Campbell is in Toronto; he might be able to do that.
[22:15] <BobJonkman1> Gord was talking about setting up a Linux Hour for 1 July in Toronto...
[22:15] <azend|irssi> I volunteer myself to get the logo preped for print
[22:15] <BobJonkman1> azend|irssi: Got a design?
[22:15] <azend|irssi> BobJonkman1: yes.
[22:15] <azend|irssi> BobJonkman1: it's just the ubuntu-ca logo
[22:15] <azend|irssi> perhaps with a subtitle beneath it
[22:16] <azend|irssi> #action azend to look more into sticker prices
[22:16] <meetingology> ACTION: azend to look more into sticker prices
[22:16] <azend|irssi> #action azend to design a sticker for print and get acceptance from the group
[22:16] <meetingology> ACTION: azend to design a sticker for print and get acceptance from the group
[22:17] <azend|irssi> #action azend to send out an email about stickers he gets a chance
[22:17] <meetingology> ACTION: azend to send out an email about stickers he gets a chance
[22:17] <azend|irssi> #topic Posters
[22:18] <azend|irssi> I also brought up that we should make up some generic posters and other marketing materials last week to provide for groups around canada
[22:18] <azend|irssi> These may take a bit longer but I can post what I have
[22:19] <azend|irssi> I designed a poster for the last ubuntu release party that I could distribute
[22:20] <azend|irssi> It was made in non-free software so I'll export it to an SVG or something and post it to the mailing group
[22:20] <azend|irssi> or to the ubuntu loco page
[22:22] <azend|irssi> #subtopic Banner designs
[22:22] <BobJonkman1> Are you thinking of huge posters like you have at Diyode? http://pix.ie/ubuntuca/3245549/in/album/465654
[22:22] <BobJonkman1> Or more of a handbill, 8.5" x 11"
[22:22] <azend|irssi> BobJonkman1: that would be cool but I don't think it would be of much use to most people
[22:23] <azend|irssi> I'm thinking like 8.5"x11" and maybe 11"x17"
[22:23] <azend|irssi> The latter is getting more and more common in some cheap commercial printers
[22:24] <azend|irssi> BobJonkman1: what do you think the posters should have on them?
[22:25] <genii-around> Sorry not to check in, had electrical work here to finish. I'll check backscroll
[22:25] <BobJonkman1> Hi genii-around!  Bye genii-around!
[22:26] <azend|irssi> We could draw up some simple ones like for ubuntu release parties and ubuntu hours
[22:26] <BobJonkman1> azend|irssi: Posters should probably have some contact info, and maybe meeting info.
[22:26] <azend|irssi> genii-around: it's mostly me being stupid and me talking to myself
[22:26] <azend|irssi> BobJonkman1: true
[22:26] <azend|irssi> I wonder how we could incorporate that
[22:27] <azend|irssi> just out an inkscape svg?
[22:27] <BobJonkman1> That would work better if we were more consistent about dates and times for meetings (I'm thinking of the monthly meeting, which has bounced all over the calendar in the last couple of years)
[22:27] <genii-around> If the place is here in Toronto, I'll throw in a few bucks if you like and ship em if i get to keep a few for the release-parties here
[22:28] <azend|irssi> awesome
[22:28] <BobJonkman1> We've been a little more consistent with contact people, mostly dscassel here in KW, genii-around in TO, and other people running the local chapters.
[22:29] <genii-around> azend|irssi: I'm also thinking 11x17 for posters btw
[22:29]  * BobJonkman1 points at azend|irssi as Dear Leader for Ubuntu-ca-guelph :)
[22:29] <genii-around> azend|irssi: Glad to make your acquaintance!
[22:30] <azend|irssi> BobJonkman1: if I hand out the design files, people can put their own dates and contact information on them
[22:30] <azend|irssi> Hi genii-around :)
[22:30] <azend|irssi> I think I've seen you around before
[22:30] <IdleOne> o/
[22:30] <bregma> is there an inkscape file or something for the poster(s)?
[22:31]  * txwikinger takes over North Dumfries and Brant
[22:31] <azend|irssi> bregma: that's what we're discussing
[22:31] <azend|irssi> I would like for us to have some promotional materials
[22:33] <azend|irssi> #info Posters must be in convenient sizes for the printer. Sizes will be decided on later
[22:34] <azend|irssi> Does anyone have any ambitions to be come ubuntu canada poster famous and make us some posters? :D
[22:35] <azend|irssi> I think I'll postpone the vote for poster sizes to next week so that we can get more input on what may be convenient.
[22:35]  * BobJonkman1 has the design skills of a brick.
[22:36] <azend|irssi> Can someone send an email to the list discussing the idea of posters and asking what size they should be?
[22:37] <azend|irssi> I can guess at what sizes most peoples printers may be but that may prove to not be very effective
[22:37] <BobJonkman1> azend|irssi: I can do that. It would be good if I can point people to an initial logo or something.
[22:37] <azend|irssi> It would be nice to get some confirmation before continuing
[22:38] <azend|irssi> Helloo... :)
[22:38] <BobJonkman1> There are some logos (bitmaps) on the Ubuntu wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam?action=AttachFile
[22:38] <azend|irssi> BobJonkman1: It think we would be better off using that vector you found the other day
[22:39]  * BobJonkman1 wishes he could remember where that was
[22:39] <azend|irssi> I'll check my logs later
[22:39] <azend|irssi> #action BobJonkman1 to post an email to the meeting list to ask about what sizes posters should be
[22:39] <meetingology> ACTION: BobJonkman1 to post an email to the meeting list to ask about what sizes posters should be
[22:40] <azend|irssi> Does anyone have anything else to say on the topic?
[22:42] <azend|irssi> #meetingtopic Ubuntu CA Weekly Meeting 2013-05-30
[22:42] <azend|irssi> whoops
[22:42] <azend|irssi> almost forgot :P
[22:43] <azend|irssi> alright
[22:43] <azend|irssi> Is there anything new to talk about?
[22:44] <azend|irssi> I would personally like to do a call out to see which groups in the ubuntu-ca community are currently active
[22:44] <azend|irssi> perhaps pull in some of the lurkers and get them active
[22:44] <BobJonkman1> As far as I know, Vancouver is pretty active, but doesn't do much nationally.
[22:45] <BobJonkman1> MLUG  (or MUMU) still meets every month in Mississauga, but doesn't do much nationally either.
[22:45] <azend|irssi> #topic Ubuntu CA Role Call
[22:45] <azend|irssi> BobJonkman1: that's cool
[22:45] <azend|irssi> we should build a list somewhere
[22:45] <BobJonkman1> And it looks like Gord Cambell is trying to get Ubuntu-ca-TO doing something too.
[22:46] <azend|irssi> awesome
[22:46] <azend|irssi> It sounds like we're on the edge of getting some new blood in here
[22:46] <BobJonkman1> There's a list of local chapters (in various states of activity) on the Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam#Canadian_Team_Chapters
[22:47] <BobJonkman1> I've added those chapters to the header file, so a list of local chapters shows on every page on the Wiki.
[22:47] <BobJonkman1> But you're right, some are so inactive as to not exist.
[22:47] <azend|irssi> BobJonkman1: I would like to assemble a list of linux groups in the area as well
[22:48] <azend|irssi> I'm not sure that this spot is the right place
[22:48] <azend|irssi> but maybe somewhere nerby
[22:48] <azend|irssi> nearby
[22:48] <azend|irssi> Even just a list of Ubuntu CA connections
[22:48] <BobJonkman1> Here's a start: http://www.kwlug.org/node/403
[22:48] <BobJonkman1> Possibly another stale list, tho.
[22:48] <azend|irssi> BobJonkman1: awesome
[22:49] <azend|irssi> submitted in 2006 :P
[22:49] <BobJonkman1> Used to be http://www.cluecan.ca/ was the authoritative source for LUGs
[22:50] <azend|irssi> #info BobJonkman1 brought up that KWLUG has assembled a list of people within their region that they are connected to http://www.kwlug.org/node/403
[22:50] <BobJonkman1> I've done a bit of updating to the KWLUG list more recently than 2006 :)
[22:51] <azend|irssi> #action azend to send out an email seeing who is still alive. Results will be talked about next meeting
[22:51] <meetingology> ACTION: azend to send out an email seeing who is still alive. Results will be talked about next meeting
[22:51] <azend|irssi> Anything else to talk about?
[22:51] <BobJonkman1> Ah, just found ClueCan's list: http://www.cluecan.ca/flexinode/table/1
[22:52] <azend|irssi> BobJonkman1: anything you can think of?
[22:52] <BobJonkman1> Nope, I'm all idea'd out.
[22:52]  * genii-around washes out the coffeepot
[22:53] <BobJonkman1> Mmm, coffee!
[22:53] <genii-around> Oh, I'd like to push this petition again while there's some people breathing in here: http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/bell-canada-crtc-stop-bell-canada-cellpipe-7130-vdsl-8-00-forced-modem-rental-fee
[22:54] <azend|irssi> :)
[22:54] <azend|irssi> Darn you bell :)
[22:54] <BobJonkman1> genii-around: Without having looked myself, is this a push to get Bell to adhere to VDSL2 standard?
[22:55] <genii-around> BobJonkman1: No, although that would be good too. Right now you cannot purchase an outside VDSL@ modem that works with their linecards, then they force you to rent theirs ... you are not allowed to purchase theirs.
[22:57] <BobJonkman1> genii-around: When a third-party like Teksavvy tries to use Bell's VDSL2 connections, do they force you to rent a modem from Bell as well? Or will they sell you a (non-standard, crippled) modem?
[22:57] <azend|irssi> I hate rogers and bell but, before I descend into craziness, I think it's time to draw an end to this meeting
[22:57] <azend|irssi> Thanks everyone for coming out!
[22:57] <azend|irssi> I hope to see you all soon!
[22:57] <BobJonkman1> Thanx for the meeting, azend|
[22:58] <txwikinger> Thanks azend|irssi for running the meeting
[22:58] <genii-around> BobJonkman1: teksavvy has their own DSLAM which are true VDSL2/VDSL2+ standard so a regular modem works
[22:58] <azend|irssi> #endmeeting
[22:58] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu May 30 22:58:46 2013 UTC.
[22:58] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-ca/2013/ubuntu-ca.2013-05-30-22.04.moin.txt
[22:58] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-ca/2013/ubuntu-ca.2013-05-30-22.04.html
[22:59] <BobJonkman1> genii-around: That's good.  I'll sign the petition, but I'm going to vote against Bell with my wallet.
[22:59] <genii-around> In cases where they must use Bell's DSLAM, they have to rent the Bell modem same as regular customers
[23:11] <BobJonkman1> genii-around: Just tried to fill in that petition.  It's a horrible, Javascrippled site.  Whatever happened to accessible web forms?
[23:11] <genii-around> I know :(
[23:11] <BobJonkman1> And then there's the part where they hit you up for money to advertise...
[23:28] <BobJonkman1> azend|irssi: Will you be putting today's minutes on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings/2013-05-30 ?