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dholbachgood morning06:53
elfyhi dholbach06:55
dholbachhey elfy06:55
dholbachhola dpm06:56
dpmhey dholbach06:56
dpmgood morning all06:56
coolbhavihey dpm :)06:58
elfydholbach: page is looking ok - still needs pics - but we know that06:58
dholbachyep, Liz mailed me about it - I'll look into it in a bit :)06:59
dpmmorning coolbhavi07:00
coolbhavimorning dpm07:00
elfydholbach: I'm back on my long weekend thing again - I'm about more now if you want me for anything07:03
dholbachgreat, thanks elfy!07:07
dholbachballoons, thanks for the update!09:54
balloonsjcastro, I'm sorry.. red wings season, RIP . . .12:00
jcastro1.515.yeah12:06
jcastrooh well, considering we barely made the playoffs, to take the hawks to a game 7 is nice12:07
jcastrojust not by losing a 3-1 series lead, lol12:07
jcastroballoons: a horrible call enabled us to even get a chance to go into overtime12:12
jcastroso really, we lost twice, hah12:12
balloonsthat was the sad part.. but letting them tie after going 3-1 is really when it was over12:12
balloonsas you know.. it's so hard to finish after blowing it12:12
jcastroyeah12:16
jcastroI'm not mad about losing in OT12:16
jcastroto like, the best team in hockey12:16
jcastroI am mad that we had them on the ropes and then spaced out for 3 games in a row12:16
dakerguys maybe you wanna look at https://news.ycombinator.com/13:01
balloonsdaker, what did you do? :-p13:16
dakerballoons: nothing, submit -> wait a relax :D13:17
dakerand*13:17
balloonsBOOM13:17
balloonsdaker, insta karma for you13:21
dakerballoons: :)13:21
elfyhi balloons13:21
balloonshi elfy13:24
* balloons awaits elfy's next merge :-)13:24
elfynot done anything since weekedn - been working13:26
elfyyou done all 3 now?13:26
elfyxchat for instance?13:26
elfyballoons: also what would I do with the bugs that I assigned to me to create the testcases - and we can take this to quality if it's better13:27
balloonssure13:28
popeydpm: mhall119 we having a call now?15:02
* popey gets coffee15:02
mhall119popey: I'm there15:02
mhall119jono is still out though15:03
dpmpopey, yeah, joining in15:03
dakerwow i just won a Pocket TV https://www.facebook.com/infinitec/posts/1015150346962798315:22
balloonsdaker, nice!15:46
dakerballoons: btw we are still #1 on HN https://news.ycombinator.com/15:46
balloonskarma train.. whoo-whoo15:47
dholbach→ off to diving! :-D16:02
* popey wonders if that's scuba or high-dive16:03
mhall119or sky17:01
elfysky would be cool - but I won't go up a ladder so that's going to never happen ...17:03
jcastro_balloons: how's saucy right this minute?18:03
jcastro_I want to show bkerensa that I am not afraid18:04
balloonsjcastro_, lol.. do it18:04
elfyit's a brave world jcastro_ - just do it18:04
jcastro_jorge@jillceratops:~$ sudo do-release-upgrade -d18:04
popeyPassword:18:05
jcastro_DinosaursAreAwesome18:05
mhall119no numbers or special characters?  I'm disappointed jcastro_18:06
balloonscapital letters!18:06
jcastro_yeah so that crazy moment yesterday where I misplaced my yubikey18:07
jcastro_and realized I don't have the google auth app on my phone18:07
mhall119yeah, we need a 2-factor app for Touch18:07
balloonsohh!18:07
jcastro_<-- upgrading18:08
popeymhall119: you have a terminal, use the 2fa.py ☻18:08
jcastro_oh, nice one castro, 2398423mb of TEX packages, those seem useful to keep around. @_@18:09
mhall119there's a python script for it?18:09
popeyyes18:09
mhall119awesome18:09
popeysee the canonical wiki which explains 2fa and scroll down to the bit about it18:09
mhall119jcastro_: ^^ there you go18:09
jcastro_popey: you suck, you should have tricked him into writing a Qt one18:11
jcastro_now I have to run a python script on my phone18:11
popeyhah18:11
* mhall119 might write one anyway18:12
popey"Words cannot describe how awesome this is. Not only is it good information, but it's from +Alan Pope . Most famous person that's ever respond to me in the history of Google Plus."18:12
popeyBOW DOWN!18:12
mhall119or tempt scrivener into the world of QML app development18:12
mhall119lol18:13
mhall119popey: that's much different from the response you typically get on G+ :)18:13
popeyindeed it is18:13
mhall119you should unfriend that guy and shutdown his account18:13
mhall119you have a reputation to maintain, afterall18:13
jcastro_man18:14
jcastro_that guy needs better friends18:14
jcastro_:p18:14
popeyThese aren't my friends, they're just people who owe me money.18:15
mhall119jcastro_: you should post about being his new friend without warning him first18:15
jcastro_we should all friend the guy18:16
mhall119popey: link?18:16
jcastro_"No one should be stuck with just popey without a support group"18:16
popeyhttps://plus.google.com/u/0/112165994884068846092/posts/gCG8AX1Zyiq18:18
mhall119aw man, 2fa.py calls out to oathtool....which isn't currently possible in QML18:21
popeythere is a 2fa app for the n9, sil wrote it18:22
popeymaybe use that as a base?18:22
mhall119it might "just work" depending on how he wrote it18:24
mhall119or at least only need porting to Qt518:24
* popey pokes him on twitter18:24
jcastro_"The closure comment reads like something agreed to as part of a deal with Microsoft. "18:29
jcastro_hah18:29
jcastro_awesome18:29
s-foxjcastro_:  good news18:29
s-foxthe beta discourse testing site appears to be up again (for the moment) :)18:30
jcastro_it's only been taken down when he does an upgrade18:30
popeyits been up most of the day18:30
jcastro_the service takes like 65 seconds to restart though18:30
s-foxi've had the loading screen for a few hours yesterday and 502 errors earlier18:31
jcastro_you should have seen the 502's maybe twice today?18:31
jcastro_I haven't had a loading screen problem18:31
popeyme either18:31
popeyi have visited it quite a bit today18:32
jcastro_marcoceppi: hey did you up it to smalls from the xsmall?18:32
s-foxpopey:  this was yesterday, not today18:32
popeysame yesterday18:32
jcastro_oh18:32
s-foxwhat time?18:32
jcastro_yesterday was a botched upgrade18:32
jcastro_for ~10 minutes18:33
jcastro_http://test.ubuntu-discourse.org/t/discourse-juju-charm-operational-lessons-learned/17/1118:33
elfyaah - the upgrade dealt with the PMs do you know?18:33
jcastro_it was supposed to I think18:33
jcastro_but Sam is on australian time18:33
jcastro_so I don't expect him to be around for another few hours18:33
elfyk18:33
jcastro_the search should be fixed now though18:34
jcastro_was last time I checked18:34
s-foxi haven't checked since i saw it mentioned that my bug on the revision was corrected.18:36
elfystill get the same issue as previously here - popey can you PM there yet?18:36
marcoceppijcastro_: was about to18:36
jcastro_marcoceppi: there's probably no easy way to do service/charm upgrades without landscape is there?18:37
jcastro_I mean, that doesn't involve a bunch of work, etc.18:37
s-foxjcastro_:  any news on importing some real data ?18:39
jcastro_no one's really stepped up to try yet18:39
jcastro_mostly been doing normal maintenance afaict18:39
elfyk - thanks jcastro_18:39
jcastro_I'm kind of doing this on the side to my normal TODO list18:40
elfyyep - we understand that - so are we ;)18:40
jcastro_but once I get some charm stuff out the way for normal work hours then I'm free18:40
jcastro_except tonight18:40
elfytry not to do anything overnight ... :)18:40
jcastro_and with the wings out of the running I now have exceptional amount of free time at night18:40
jcastro_well, other than half life 218:40
s-foxGot to get the priorities right, some things are more important than others. 9-5 jobs are important18:41
elfyand noit easy to find18:41
marcoceppiOkay, about to do an upgrade, expect some downtime18:47
jcastro_hey while that's bouncing18:48
jcastro_do we want to set the front page to be the categories?18:49
jcastro_instead of the latest?18:49
s-foxi'm still not sure how the data import is going to work, given lack of sub categories18:57
s-foxare you going to create 40 categories and have a really long front page?18:57
jcastro_I have no clue18:58
jcastro_they said they can do nested categories if demand is there18:58
jcastro_know anyone who is good with SQL/postges? Maybe we can find someone to investigate18:58
s-foxwell, looking at it from a generic person looking to migrate i think it is a feature that should really be in there18:58
s-foxi think category view would look better as the front view personally too jcastro_18:59
elfyagreed19:03
jcastro_k, let's do that after the upgrade then?19:04
s-foxremind me, what is this upgrade in aid of?19:04
jcastro_PMs hopefully?19:06
jcastro_https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commits/master19:06
jcastro_everything in front of "Version bump to v9.9.2"19:06
s-foxah okay :)19:06
popeyi love how rapidly they're revving the software19:07
popeyrelease early, release often19:07
jcastro_hah, marco probably isn't right now19:07
popeyhehe19:07
jcastro_I think if we do service upgrades without interruption we'll be able to do the upgrades transparently without the downtime19:07
s-foxi guess that comes with bleeding edge19:07
jcastro_but I need to ping the landscape guys on that.19:07
s-foxbut on the other side , i guess it is easy to find features of existing platforms to emulate.19:08
marcoceppijcastro_: going forward it'll be a lot easier after this charm-upgrade19:13
marcoceppithe process won't require and entire charm-upgrade, just a configuration switch :)19:13
jcastro_notbadobama.jpg19:13
marcoceppiWell, unless I keep finding broken things in the charm19:15
s-foxlooking at the loading graphic again.  perhaps some sort of notice when you go into a maintenance mode?19:16
marcoceppis-fox: I noted at 14:44 that I was doing an upgrade19:16
jcastro_I think he means for end users19:16
marcoceppiin IRC, not sure where else to alert that I'm moving stuff around19:16
marcoceppiOH19:16
s-foxcorrect jcastro_19:16
s-foxand what is that in UTC?19:16
marcoceppi18:4419:17
marcoceppiAlright, it didn't blow up!19:17
s-foxAh, i have that as 18:47 on my irc logs19:18
s-fox:)19:18
marcoceppiOh, my server is lagging a littlebit behind19:19
jcastro_ntp dawg!19:19
marcoceppiI'll put a new 502 error up for nginx, not sure what I can do about the infinite loader19:19
s-foxno worries, but a web facing message when you are doing some maintenance would be a good feature19:19
marcoceppis-fox: agreed, a maintenance mode in general would be nice19:19
jcastro_oh cool19:20
jcastro_there's some kind of diagnostic thing now with the upgrade19:20
elfymarcoceppi: blame me - everyone else does - 'Elfy broke it while muttering about voodoo'19:20
popeyhttp://chuck.goolsbee.org/images/uc.jpg19:20
popey19:20
popeymarcoceppi: for your under maintence page19:20
marcoceppijcastro_: yeah, I just pulled the latest tip down. We're riding the bleeding edge!19:20
jcastro_and you upped the instance size?19:21
marcoceppiAdmire as we're in sync with trunk for the next few mins until they add more commits :P19:21
marcoceppijcastro_: no, that's step two. Needed to upgrade the charm first19:21
jcastro_k, I'll stop bothering you19:21
jcastro_marcoceppi: is it done yet?19:21
jcastro_marcoceppi: how about now?19:21
jcastro_marcoceppi: hey, that splash page up yet?19:22
* marcoceppi juju destroy-environment19:22
marcoceppifixed it!19:22
s-foxis it down again? lol19:29
marcoceppis-fox: yeah, sorry about that, trying to wrangle something19:29
s-foxthought you had a new 502 page?19:30
marcoceppino, not yet sadly19:30
s-foxi thought that had been done earlier :)19:31
jcastro_marcoceppi: is it done yet?19:32
* jcastro_ snickers19:32
marcoceppiit's going to continue to be wonky as I move it from an xsmall to a small. bare with me everyone19:32
* marcoceppi furiously takes notes19:32
s-foxWhat is snickers? The chocolate bar?19:32
* popey picked a great time to mention the site on G+ :D19:32
popeythink muttley19:32
s-foxA cartoon dog?19:33
popeyhis laugh19:33
popeyimagine jcastro doing that19:33
jcastro_marcoceppi: if you need a hand I can call brandon19:33
* jcastro_ runs away19:33
jcastro_hah man, I go too far19:33
jcastro_sorry19:33
marcoceppiಠ_ಠ19:33
s-foxOh, i see.  I guess that is an americanism :)19:34
jcastro_"snickers" is like a grin19:34
s-foxjcastro_:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NySN_plfiNI19:35
s-foxsnickers :D19:35
jcastro_heh19:35
elfy:)19:36
marcoceppijcastro_: dude, you can't supply constraints with add-unit in juju core.19:36
jcastro_hah19:37
jcastro__what_.19:37
jcastro_marcoceppi: wait so once you declare a constraint that's it?19:37
jcastro_you're stuck with it?19:37
marcoceppifor a service deployed, yes. This is such a regression19:37
jcastro_file it pls19:37
marcoceppieither that, or I severely underestimated add-unit19:37
jcastro_I will ping the ramm19:37
jcastro_yeah let's head to #juju-dev19:38
* marcoceppi runs down the hall19:38
marcoceppiIt's still down, but I put a nice maintenance page up19:47
popeylol19:49
s-foxtime to go. goodbye.19:55
bkerensajcastro_: mm?19:57
marcoceppiMigration done21:51
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