[06:53] <dholbach> good morning
[06:55] <elfy> hi dholbach
[06:55] <dholbach> hey elfy
[06:56] <dholbach> hola dpm
[06:56] <dpm> hey dholbach
[06:56] <dpm> good morning all
[06:58] <coolbhavi> hey dpm :)
[06:58] <elfy> dholbach: page is looking ok - still needs pics - but we know that
[06:59] <dholbach> yep, Liz mailed me about it - I'll look into it in a bit :)
[07:00] <dpm> morning coolbhavi
[07:00] <coolbhavi> morning dpm
[07:03] <elfy> dholbach: I'm back on my long weekend thing again - I'm about more now if you want me for anything
[07:07] <dholbach> great, thanks elfy!
[09:54] <dholbach> balloons, thanks for the update!
[12:00] <balloons> jcastro, I'm sorry.. red wings season, RIP . . .
[12:06] <jcastro> 1.515.yeah
[12:07] <jcastro> oh well, considering we barely made the playoffs, to take the hawks to a game 7 is nice
[12:07] <jcastro> just not by losing a 3-1 series lead, lol
[12:12] <jcastro> balloons: a horrible call enabled us to even get a chance to go into overtime
[12:12] <jcastro> so really, we lost twice, hah
[12:12] <balloons> that was the sad part.. but letting them tie after going 3-1 is really when it was over
[12:12] <balloons> as you know.. it's so hard to finish after blowing it
[12:16] <jcastro> yeah
[12:16] <jcastro> I'm not mad about losing in OT
[12:16] <jcastro> to like, the best team in hockey
[12:16] <jcastro> I am mad that we had them on the ropes and then spaced out for 3 games in a row
[13:01] <daker> guys maybe you wanna look at https://news.ycombinator.com/
[13:16] <balloons> daker, what did you do? :-p
[13:17] <daker> balloons: nothing, submit -> wait a relax :D
[13:17] <daker> and*
[13:17] <balloons> BOOM
[13:21] <balloons> daker, insta karma for you
[13:21] <daker> balloons: :)
[13:21] <elfy> hi balloons
[13:24] <balloons> hi elfy
[13:24]  * balloons awaits elfy's next merge :-)
[13:26] <elfy> not done anything since weekedn - been working
[13:26] <elfy> you done all 3 now?
[13:26] <elfy> xchat for instance?
[13:27] <elfy> balloons: also what would I do with the bugs that I assigned to me to create the testcases - and we can take this to quality if it's better
[13:28] <balloons> sure
[15:02] <popey> dpm: mhall119 we having a call now?
[15:02]  * popey gets coffee
[15:02] <mhall119> popey: I'm there
[15:03] <mhall119> jono is still out though
[15:03] <dpm> popey, yeah, joining in
[15:22] <daker> wow i just won a Pocket TV https://www.facebook.com/infinitec/posts/10151503469627983
[15:46] <balloons> daker, nice!
[15:46] <daker> balloons: btw we are still #1 on HN https://news.ycombinator.com/
[15:47] <balloons> karma train.. whoo-whoo
[16:02] <dholbach> → off to diving! :-D
[16:03]  * popey wonders if that's scuba or high-dive
[17:01] <mhall119> or sky
[17:03] <elfy> sky would be cool - but I won't go up a ladder so that's going to never happen ...
[18:03] <jcastro_> balloons: how's saucy right this minute?
[18:04] <jcastro_> I want to show bkerensa that I am not afraid
[18:04] <balloons> jcastro_, lol.. do it
[18:04] <elfy> it's a brave world jcastro_ - just do it
[18:04] <jcastro_> jorge@jillceratops:~$ sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[18:05] <popey> Password:
[18:05] <jcastro_> DinosaursAreAwesome
[18:06] <mhall119> no numbers or special characters?  I'm disappointed jcastro_
[18:06] <balloons> capital letters!
[18:07] <jcastro_> yeah so that crazy moment yesterday where I misplaced my yubikey
[18:07] <jcastro_> and realized I don't have the google auth app on my phone
[18:07] <mhall119> yeah, we need a 2-factor app for Touch
[18:07] <balloons> ohh!
[18:08] <jcastro_> <-- upgrading
[18:08] <popey> mhall119: you have a terminal, use the 2fa.py ☻
[18:09] <jcastro_> oh, nice one castro, 2398423mb of TEX packages, those seem useful to keep around. @_@
[18:09] <mhall119> there's a python script for it?
[18:09] <popey> yes
[18:09] <mhall119> awesome
[18:09] <popey> see the canonical wiki which explains 2fa and scroll down to the bit about it
[18:09] <mhall119> jcastro_: ^^ there you go
[18:11] <jcastro_> popey: you suck, you should have tricked him into writing a Qt one
[18:11] <jcastro_> now I have to run a python script on my phone
[18:11] <popey> hah
[18:12]  * mhall119 might write one anyway
[18:12] <popey> "Words cannot describe how awesome this is. Not only is it good information, but it's from +Alan Pope . Most famous person that's ever respond to me in the history of Google Plus.﻿"
[18:12] <popey> BOW DOWN!
[18:12] <mhall119> or tempt scrivener into the world of QML app development
[18:13] <mhall119> lol
[18:13] <mhall119> popey: that's much different from the response you typically get on G+ :)
[18:13] <popey> indeed it is
[18:13] <mhall119> you should unfriend that guy and shutdown his account
[18:13] <mhall119> you have a reputation to maintain, afterall
[18:14] <jcastro_> man
[18:14] <jcastro_> that guy needs better friends
[18:14] <jcastro_> :p
[18:15] <popey> These aren't my friends, they're just people who owe me money.
[18:15] <mhall119> jcastro_: you should post about being his new friend without warning him first
[18:16] <jcastro_> we should all friend the guy
[18:16] <mhall119> popey: link?
[18:16] <jcastro_> "No one should be stuck with just popey without a support group"
[18:18] <popey> https://plus.google.com/u/0/112165994884068846092/posts/gCG8AX1Zyiq
[18:21] <mhall119> aw man, 2fa.py calls out to oathtool....which isn't currently possible in QML
[18:22] <popey> there is a 2fa app for the n9, sil wrote it
[18:22] <popey> maybe use that as a base?
[18:24] <mhall119> it might "just work" depending on how he wrote it
[18:24] <mhall119> or at least only need porting to Qt5
[18:24]  * popey pokes him on twitter
[18:29] <jcastro_> "The closure comment reads like something agreed to as part of a deal with Microsoft. "
[18:29] <jcastro_> hah
[18:29] <jcastro_> awesome
[18:29] <s-fox> jcastro_:  good news
[18:30] <s-fox> the beta discourse testing site appears to be up again (for the moment) :)
[18:30] <jcastro_> it's only been taken down when he does an upgrade
[18:30] <popey> its been up most of the day
[18:30] <jcastro_> the service takes like 65 seconds to restart though
[18:31] <s-fox> i've had the loading screen for a few hours yesterday and 502 errors earlier
[18:31] <jcastro_> you should have seen the 502's maybe twice today?
[18:31] <jcastro_> I haven't had a loading screen problem
[18:31] <popey> me either
[18:32] <popey> i have visited it quite a bit today
[18:32] <jcastro_> marcoceppi: hey did you up it to smalls from the xsmall?
[18:32] <s-fox> popey:  this was yesterday, not today
[18:32] <popey> same yesterday
[18:32] <jcastro_> oh
[18:32] <s-fox> what time?
[18:32] <jcastro_> yesterday was a botched upgrade
[18:33] <jcastro_> for ~10 minutes
[18:33] <jcastro_> http://test.ubuntu-discourse.org/t/discourse-juju-charm-operational-lessons-learned/17/11
[18:33] <elfy> aah - the upgrade dealt with the PMs do you know?
[18:33] <jcastro_> it was supposed to I think
[18:33] <jcastro_> but Sam is on australian time
[18:33] <jcastro_> so I don't expect him to be around for another few hours
[18:33] <elfy> k
[18:34] <jcastro_> the search should be fixed now though
[18:34] <jcastro_> was last time I checked
[18:36] <s-fox> i haven't checked since i saw it mentioned that my bug on the revision was corrected.
[18:36] <elfy> still get the same issue as previously here - popey can you PM there yet?
[18:36] <marcoceppi> jcastro_: was about to
[18:37] <jcastro_> marcoceppi: there's probably no easy way to do service/charm upgrades without landscape is there?
[18:37] <jcastro_> I mean, that doesn't involve a bunch of work, etc.
[18:39] <s-fox> jcastro_:  any news on importing some real data ?
[18:39] <jcastro_> no one's really stepped up to try yet
[18:39] <jcastro_> mostly been doing normal maintenance afaict
[18:39] <elfy> k - thanks jcastro_
[18:40] <jcastro_> I'm kind of doing this on the side to my normal TODO list
[18:40] <elfy> yep - we understand that - so are we ;)
[18:40] <jcastro_> but once I get some charm stuff out the way for normal work hours then I'm free
[18:40] <jcastro_> except tonight
[18:40] <elfy> try not to do anything overnight ... :)
[18:40] <jcastro_> and with the wings out of the running I now have exceptional amount of free time at night
[18:40] <jcastro_> well, other than half life 2
[18:41] <s-fox> Got to get the priorities right, some things are more important than others. 9-5 jobs are important
[18:41] <elfy> and noit easy to find
[18:47] <marcoceppi> Okay, about to do an upgrade, expect some downtime
[18:48] <jcastro_> hey while that's bouncing
[18:49] <jcastro_> do we want to set the front page to be the categories?
[18:49] <jcastro_> instead of the latest?
[18:57] <s-fox> i'm still not sure how the data import is going to work, given lack of sub categories
[18:57] <s-fox> are you going to create 40 categories and have a really long front page?
[18:58] <jcastro_> I have no clue
[18:58] <jcastro_> they said they can do nested categories if demand is there
[18:58] <jcastro_> know anyone who is good with SQL/postges? Maybe we can find someone to investigate
[18:58] <s-fox> well, looking at it from a generic person looking to migrate i think it is a feature that should really be in there
[18:59] <s-fox> i think category view would look better as the front view personally too jcastro_
[19:03] <elfy> agreed
[19:04] <jcastro_> k, let's do that after the upgrade then?
[19:04] <s-fox> remind me, what is this upgrade in aid of?
[19:06] <jcastro_> PMs hopefully?
[19:06] <jcastro_> https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commits/master
[19:06] <jcastro_> everything in front of "Version bump to v9.9.2"
[19:06] <s-fox> ah okay :)
[19:07] <popey> i love how rapidly they're revving the software
[19:07] <popey> release early, release often
[19:07] <jcastro_> hah, marco probably isn't right now
[19:07] <popey> hehe
[19:07] <jcastro_> I think if we do service upgrades without interruption we'll be able to do the upgrades transparently without the downtime
[19:07] <s-fox> i guess that comes with bleeding edge
[19:07] <jcastro_> but I need to ping the landscape guys on that.
[19:08] <s-fox> but on the other side , i guess it is easy to find features of existing platforms to emulate.
[19:13] <marcoceppi> jcastro_: going forward it'll be a lot easier after this charm-upgrade
[19:13] <marcoceppi> the process won't require and entire charm-upgrade, just a configuration switch :)
[19:13] <jcastro_> notbadobama.jpg
[19:15] <marcoceppi> Well, unless I keep finding broken things in the charm
[19:16] <s-fox> looking at the loading graphic again.  perhaps some sort of notice when you go into a maintenance mode?
[19:16] <marcoceppi> s-fox: I noted at 14:44 that I was doing an upgrade
[19:16] <jcastro_> I think he means for end users
[19:16] <marcoceppi> in IRC, not sure where else to alert that I'm moving stuff around
[19:16] <marcoceppi> OH
[19:16] <s-fox> correct jcastro_
[19:16] <s-fox> and what is that in UTC?
[19:17] <marcoceppi> 18:44
[19:17] <marcoceppi> Alright, it didn't blow up!
[19:18] <s-fox> Ah, i have that as 18:47 on my irc logs
[19:18] <s-fox> :)
[19:19] <marcoceppi> Oh, my server is lagging a littlebit behind
[19:19] <jcastro_> ntp dawg!
[19:19] <marcoceppi> I'll put a new 502 error up for nginx, not sure what I can do about the infinite loader
[19:19] <s-fox> no worries, but a web facing message when you are doing some maintenance would be a good feature
[19:19] <marcoceppi> s-fox: agreed, a maintenance mode in general would be nice
[19:20] <jcastro_> oh cool
[19:20] <jcastro_> there's some kind of diagnostic thing now with the upgrade
[19:20] <elfy> marcoceppi: blame me - everyone else does - 'Elfy broke it while muttering about voodoo'
[19:20] <popey> http://chuck.goolsbee.org/images/uc.jpg
[19:20] <popey> ㋛
[19:20] <popey> marcoceppi: for your under maintence page
[19:20] <marcoceppi> jcastro_: yeah, I just pulled the latest tip down. We're riding the bleeding edge!
[19:21] <jcastro_> and you upped the instance size?
[19:21] <marcoceppi> Admire as we're in sync with trunk for the next few mins until they add more commits :P
[19:21] <marcoceppi> jcastro_: no, that's step two. Needed to upgrade the charm first
[19:21] <jcastro_> k, I'll stop bothering you
[19:21] <jcastro_> marcoceppi: is it done yet?
[19:21] <jcastro_> marcoceppi: how about now?
[19:22] <jcastro_> marcoceppi: hey, that splash page up yet?
[19:22]  * marcoceppi juju destroy-environment
[19:22] <marcoceppi> fixed it!
[19:29] <s-fox> is it down again? lol
[19:29] <marcoceppi> s-fox: yeah, sorry about that, trying to wrangle something
[19:30] <s-fox> thought you had a new 502 page?
[19:30] <marcoceppi> no, not yet sadly
[19:31] <s-fox> i thought that had been done earlier :)
[19:32] <jcastro_> marcoceppi: is it done yet?
[19:32]  * jcastro_ snickers
[19:32] <marcoceppi> it's going to continue to be wonky as I move it from an xsmall to a small. bare with me everyone
[19:32]  * marcoceppi furiously takes notes
[19:32] <s-fox> What is snickers? The chocolate bar?
[19:32]  * popey picked a great time to mention the site on G+ :D
[19:32] <popey> think muttley
[19:33] <s-fox> A cartoon dog?
[19:33] <popey> his laugh
[19:33] <popey> imagine jcastro doing that
[19:33] <jcastro_> marcoceppi: if you need a hand I can call brandon
[19:33]  * jcastro_ runs away
[19:33] <jcastro_> hah man, I go too far
[19:33] <jcastro_> sorry
[19:33] <marcoceppi> ಠ_ಠ
[19:34] <s-fox> Oh, i see.  I guess that is an americanism :)
[19:34] <jcastro_> "snickers" is like a grin
[19:35] <s-fox> jcastro_:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NySN_plfiNI
[19:35] <s-fox> snickers :D
[19:35] <jcastro_> heh
[19:36] <elfy> :)
[19:36] <marcoceppi> jcastro_: dude, you can't supply constraints with add-unit in juju core.
[19:37] <jcastro_> hah
[19:37] <jcastro_> _what_.
[19:37] <jcastro_> marcoceppi: wait so once you declare a constraint that's it?
[19:37] <jcastro_> you're stuck with it?
[19:37] <marcoceppi> for a service deployed, yes. This is such a regression
[19:37] <jcastro_> file it pls
[19:37] <marcoceppi> either that, or I severely underestimated add-unit
[19:37] <jcastro_> I will ping the ramm
[19:38] <jcastro_> yeah let's head to #juju-dev
[19:38]  * marcoceppi runs down the hall
[19:47] <marcoceppi> It's still down, but I put a nice maintenance page up
[19:49] <popey> lol
[19:55] <s-fox> time to go. goodbye.
[19:57] <bkerensa> jcastro_: mm?
[21:51] <marcoceppi> Migration done