[06:54] <dholbach> good morning
[07:11] <iulian> G'morning dholbach.
[07:12] <dholbach> hey iulian
[07:12] <dholbach> how's life over there?
[07:15] <iulian> dholbach: Got my thesis viva today. Happy days after that. :)
[07:15] <iulian> dholbach: And there?
[07:15] <dholbach> viva means? defending the thesis?
[07:17] <iulian> dholbach: Viva voce. Yes but it's an undergrad thesis, so all the material is already known.
[07:17] <dholbach> all the best with that then!
[07:17] <iulian> Thanks very much. :)
[07:17] <iulian> Should probably get back to it. Catch you later.
[07:17] <dholbach> life's good - I'm looking forward to tonight - I'll have my first diving lesson
[07:18] <dholbach> see you!
[09:31] <geser> hmm, does the ", yes" makes any sense in "dh $@ --with python2, yes"?
[09:31] <jtaylor> is there a space there?
[09:32] <jtaylor> dh arguments must not have spaces between the comma
[09:33] <geser> yes, there is a space
[09:33] <jtaylor> it probably does nothing then
[09:34] <geser> it seems to make the package FTBFS: dh_python2 -ayes ; Usage: dh_python2 -p PACKAGE [-V [X.Y][-][A.B]] DIR [-X REGEXPR]
[09:34] <jtaylor> which package?
[09:34] <geser> monsterz from saucy-proposed
[09:35] <geser> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/140887310/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-amd64.monsterz_0.7.1-5_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[09:35] <jtaylor> hm
[09:35] <jtaylor> great
[09:35] <jtaylor> one of those built on DD machine, good enough
[09:35] <jtaylor> fails everywhere
[09:35] <jtaylor> wait, the maintainer should fix that
[09:35] <jtaylor> and debian introduce source only uploads ._.
[09:36] <jtaylor> https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=monsterz
[09:36] <Laney> build failure mails by default would be a good start ...
[09:37] <jtaylor> you do get those I think
[09:37] <Laney> no, you have to subscribe to the package on the pts
[09:37] <jtaylor> oh
[09:37] <jtaylor> that sucks
[09:37] <Laney> kind of does
[09:38] <jtaylor> btw geser please forward your as-need patches
[09:39] <jtaylor> saint wasn't forwarded, (did it for you #710364)
[09:40] <geser> will do (once I figure out why the BTS didn't like my last attempts to file a bug)
[09:54] <geser> does porting from python3.2 to python3.3 needs many changes? there are currently 2 package in build-wait on python3.2
[09:55] <jtaylor> depends on the package
[09:55] <jtaylor> usually not
[09:56] <mitya57> geser: which packages?
[09:57] <geser> uucp-lmtp and python-dvdvideo
[09:59] <mitya57> let me look
[10:03] <mitya57> uucp-lmtp ftbfs in (non-clean) sid also, because it calls $(shell py3versions -r) setup.py
[10:07] <mitya57> python-dvdvideo is similar, will now file bugs with patches to bts
[10:08] <jtaylor> the stricter debian/pyversions check?
[10:08] <jtaylor> weird that those are not filed yet
[10:10] <mitya57> jtaylor: re ftbfs in sid I was mistaken, because -r reads d/control where 3.2 is hardcoded; anyway it will ftbfs when we drop 3.2
[10:10] <geser> probably because they are arch:all which nobody tried to rebuild in Debian yet
[10:11]  * mitya57 wonders why these packages are 3.0 (native) and install scripts to /usr/sbin
[10:25] <mitya57> (done)
[10:39] <jtaylor> cjwatson: can you please forward your tarantool patch to debian, its not applied there and I can't tell for what its needed
[10:39] <jtaylor> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/134183145/tarantool_1.4.8%2B20130212.1728-1_1.4.8%2B20130212.1728-1ubuntu1.diff.gz
[10:43] <geser> jtaylor: my guess to fix the FTBFS on i386: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/131061509/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-i386.tarantool_1.4.8%2B20130212.1728-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[10:44] <jtaylor> why does debian not need it?
[10:44] <cjwatson> I'll check
[10:44] <jtaylor> thx
[10:45] <cjwatson> Might be a side-effect of --as-needed/--no-copy-dt-needed-entries
[10:50] <jtaylor> yey automated ImplicitPointerConversions check :)
[10:50] <jtaylor> found a pretty suble bug in squeak-vm
[11:00] <cjwatson> jtaylor: Ha, I did forward that patch :-P
[11:00] <cjwatson> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=703044
[11:00] <cjwatson> So I'll test-build and sync
[11:00] <cjwatson> It looks like it's just fixed differently in Debian/upstream
[11:00] <jtaylor> hm
[11:01] <jtaylor> k
[11:01] <jtaylor> I just checked the patch file and didn't see it
[11:01] <jtaylor> *patched
[11:01] <cjwatson> jtaylor: Like I say, fixed differently.  The code in question doesn't refer to the offending symbol any more.
[11:01] <jtaylor> thanks for checking
[11:02] <jtaylor> I usually file the debian bug before uploading so I can add a reference to the patch
[11:51] <mitya57> oh, lintian now depends on three more perl modules from universe :(
[11:51]  * mitya57 will file MIRs later if noone else does
[11:52] <jtaylor> can someone tell me why wmnd is not migrating?
[11:52] <jtaylor> I can'T see any errors in exuses and output
[11:53] <Laney> jtaylor: excuses says "Depends: net-snmp"
[11:53] <Laney> means it's blocking on that
[11:53] <jtaylor> but below it says valid candidate?
[11:53] <Laney> right
[11:53] <Laney> it's otherwise good at the first stage, but something else is holding it back
[11:54] <Laney> so get net-snmp to migrate ... looks fun
[12:00] <jtaylor> arg the third package with an unforwarded as-needed patch!
[12:11] <jtaylor> forth package ..
[12:45] <cjwatson> jtaylor: anything related to net-snmp or libgd is blocked on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/libgd2.html
[12:45] <cjwatson> I sorted out all the ones directly related to net-snmp, but they're intertangled
[12:45] <cjwatson> I've been trying to get plplot to build, but it's complex
[12:46] <cjwatson> I think the answer may be to drop the Ada bindings as well as D
[15:57] <jbicha> jtaylor: I think we're going to need 0001-Revert-data-Hide-rygel-preferences-in-GNOME.patch which Debian dropped in their latest releases
[15:59] <jtaylor> our gnome can't do it?
[16:03] <jtaylor> but yes probably it should be added back if ubuntu sticks with the older control center
[16:04] <jtaylor> what are the gnome plans for saucy?
[16:11] <mitya57> jtaylor: I believe we are going to upgrade most things (including g-c-c) to 3.8
[16:12] <jtaylor> jbicha: as you are here could it be that you dropped the patch for bug 995281 in the split into five-or-more?
[16:15] <jbicha> jtaylor: I think Ubuntu will *eventually* upgrade to control-center 3.8 but there's still more work needed and the Desktop Team is busy with everything else
[16:16] <jbicha> the upstream bug for five-or-more claims it should have been fixed in 3.8
[16:16] <jtaylor> apparently not I can reproduce the crash
[16:16] <jtaylor> I'll try if the patch stil works
[16:16] <jtaylor> (it applies)
[16:17] <jbicha> it doesn't segfault here...
[16:17] <jtaylor> 32bit?
[16:17] <jbicha> 64
[16:17] <jtaylor> it only affects 32
[16:17] <jtaylor> you get it in a raring i386 chroot
[16:19] <jtaylor> at least it builds faster now :)
[16:21] <jtaylor> jbicha: the old patch still fixes it
[16:31] <jtaylor> oh man just figured out you can move around corners in this game!
[16:32] <TheLordOfTime> lol?
[16:32] <jtaylor> thats why I found it so incredibly hard ^^
[16:32] <jtaylor> I though it was one of those almost impossible to beat unless your lucky games ._.
[16:40] <jtaylor> jbicha: I added the patch back, sru later ._.
[16:42] <jtaylor> for five-or-more, not rygel