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thafreakwell...just moved my irssi session from my old pogo plug to my new raspberry pi14:13
thafreaklets see how this goes :)14:13
thafreakhow's ohio by the way?14:13
jrgiffordthafreak: ohio is doing good.14:20
jrgiffordi think14:20
paultagOH!14:20
jrgiffordIO!14:22
paultag!14:25
thafreakoh.io?14:31
thafreakwho registered that one?14:31
paultagI looked at it14:31
paultagbut I was too late14:31
thafreakawe14:32
jrgiffordsadface14:32
paultagI got deb.io14:32
thafreaki thought domains had to be a min of 3 characters anyway?14:32
paultagnah14:32
paultagthat'14:32
paultagthat's a per TLD thing14:32
thafreaki looked at .io's but they're likle $9914:33
paultagthafreak: e.g. x.org is a thing14:33
paultagthafreak: bad registrar :)14:33
thafreakhow much you get them for?14:33
paultag40 something14:33
paultagI can do it for about 32 after I get my account updated14:33
thafreakmeh, still...unless I had a good reason, I don't think I'd pay that much14:34
paultagmy .ag is expensive14:34
paultaglike 90 some odd bucks.14:34
thafreaki have a .me that I pay a bit more for already14:34
paultag.me is not so bad14:34
paultag.org is cheep14:34
jrgifford.com can be cheap14:42
jrgifford.net meh14:42
paultagI need to stop buying domains14:42
jrgiffordhow many do you have now?14:43
paultagI toned it down14:43
paultagI think I'm down to about 814:43
jrgiffordi'm at 6 right now.14:43
paultagI just droped a few14:43
paultagI need to get my shit in line14:43
jrgiffordpersonal, company 1, company 2, armyofminions.com, and a few others.14:44
paultagword14:44
jrgiffordi mean, i saw armyofminions.com was available, and said MINE14:46
jrgiffordIM GETTING THAT14:46
thafreakwow, my pogoplug is pushing 2 years uptime14:46
thafreakarmyofminions....you should use it to run a salt master14:47
thafreak(see saltstack.org)14:47
jrgiffordthafreak: i start to get worried after 3 months.14:47
thafreakworried about what?14:47
jrgiffordgenerally because a kernel update landed, and i don't use ksplice.14:47
jrgifforduptime.14:47
thafreakThe only machines i reboot frequently are the ones that run a web browser14:48
jrgiffordbut yes, i was thinking puppet, since that's my thing, but yes, i could do that with salt as well.14:48
thafreakjust saying...salt actually calls their slaves minions14:49
jrgiffordright.14:49
thafreakseems fitting14:49
jrgiffordi could use that for a hosted salt service.14:49
thafreaki still need to run some tests with salt on the raspberry pi14:49
jrgiffordwas reading salt doesn't work for the pi14:50
paultagyou're still on that salt grind?14:50
thafreakoh really14:51
thafreaki had some problems getting salt to work on the pogo plug14:51
thafreakit was their crypto or something...the implementation was endian specific14:52
thafreakbut i installed a pure python version and it mostly worked14:52
thafreakand yes, I'm still on that salt grind14:54
thafreakit's still the closest thing to what I wanted to build from scratch...and it's already implemented14:54
thafreakplus they've already built in windows support14:54
paultagmmm14:55
thafreakso I'm hoping I can deploy at customer's location, and manage some aspects of their winblows boxen remotely14:55
jrgiffordthat is an advantage of salt15:14
jrgiffordpuppet/chef can do some stuff, but from what i've been told, salt does it better.15:14
thafreakanyone in here know about newer lcd/led monitors?15:51
thafreakI'm looking to get 2 large-ish (23-24")15:52
thafreaki want to play games on at least one of them15:52
thafreakis the 5ms time monitors decent, or do I really want the 2ms or even a 1ms one?15:52
* dzho watches with interest18:24
dzhothafreak: if you find out elsehow, I'd appreciate a comment here about what you learn18:24
thafreakdzho: find out what? monitors?18:26
dzhoyeah18:29
dzhoparticularly, about the speed requirements18:29
dzhoI'm sure there's a write up out there on teh intarwebs that explains this all, the trick is finding it.18:30
dzhoin a simple minded way, I look at 5ms and think that's equivalent to 200Hz which sounds plenty fast to me18:30
dzhogiven as how I was just talking today with someone about how valuable we still find CRTs that can do 120Hz or better at a decent resolution.18:30
thafreakyeah, from what I've read, it all says faster is better...but anything bellow 6ms should be fine18:31
dzhobut there's probably some other factor I'm not considering, or the rates are not so directly comparable because of reasons18:31
thafreakit's up to your eyes...some people see ghosting at 6ms some don't18:31
dzhoslow eyes18:32
thafreakbut i guess there's also two main panel types, TN and IPS now18:32
thafreakIPS has better colors and angles, but typically slower response times and more energy consumption18:32
thafreakso, it all seems to be a bunch of tradeoffs18:33
thafreakbut I've seen most of the new IPS ones are also atleast 5ms...so I guess that's not too bad18:33
thafreakand from what I've read, they'd be better for things where colors matter (like photo editing)18:33
thafreakso I think since I'll not be playing games most of the time, I'm going to lean that direction18:34
thafreakI'll probably be doing much more photo editing/web development/programming/IRC than gaming18:34
dzhoso say we all18:35
thafreak:)18:35
thafreakwhat I'm most insterested in, is finding one at a decent price at best buy, where I can get 6mo financing :)18:36
dzhoI'm just going to look into the Oculus Rift stuff and see if Pymol will drive them.18:37
dzho300 bucks, oh boy18:37
thafreakPymol?18:37
dzhoyou know it mang18:38
thafreakno, "what is Pymol for 300 dzho"18:38
dzhooh18:39
dzhosorry18:39
dzhopymol.org18:39
dzho3D molecular visualization software18:39
thafreakah18:39
thafreakin python i'm guessing?18:39
dzhoit's written in  . . . C++, I think, but has python bindings18:39
thafreakoh, ok...18:40
thafreakusually projects that begin with py are python...but ok18:40
dzhohttp://www.mtbs3d.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=10808#p4794018:40
dzhoyeah, maybe it goes beyond "has bindings"18:40
thafreakstranger things have happened...like how they used windows XP at NASA and in space...retards18:41
skellatIt was flight qualified for the longest time.  Flight qualification is not a speedy process.  After all, only Squeeze is going up to the ISS...not Wheezy...18:41
dzhofrom a pure FOSS perspective, its late developer and founder established an interesting approach to licensing.18:42
dzhothe source code is licensed under a permissive, BSDish license.18:42
dzhobut the binaries he produces are not released that way.18:42
dzhohe's like, if you can build it for your platform from source, more power to you.18:42
dzhoso, you can get it "for free" via Ubuntu or Debian packages.18:43
dzhobut *not* for Windows or Mac.18:43
dzhosorry, I should say the binaries he produced.18:44
dzhohis widow sold the rights and the company that bought them, last I saw, was continuing in that same vein.18:44
* dzho has a muppets moment18:44
dzhoXP INNNNNN SPAAAAAAAACE18:45
thafreakthat's the way all software should be18:47
thafreakopen, but if you want packaged binaries, support, etc, then be willing to pay18:48
dzhoI resisted his approach for a long time, but now I think I see the justice in it.18:48
dzhosort of like the way I resisted the FSF approach when I first started trying to get GNU things on an IRIX box:  "What do you mean, I can pay you for tapes of the software?  Tapes?  Pay?  What part of 'free' don't you understand?"  (time passes)  "Oh."18:49

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