[14:13] <thafreak> well...just moved my irssi session from my old pogo plug to my new raspberry pi
[14:13] <thafreak> lets see how this goes :)
[14:13] <thafreak> how's ohio by the way?
[14:20] <jrgifford> thafreak: ohio is doing good.
[14:20] <jrgifford> i think
[14:20] <paultag> OH!
[14:22] <jrgifford> IO!
[14:25] <paultag> !
[14:31] <thafreak> oh.io?
[14:31] <thafreak> who registered that one?
[14:31] <paultag> I looked at it
[14:31] <paultag> but I was too late
[14:32] <thafreak> awe
[14:32] <jrgifford> sadface
[14:32] <paultag> I got deb.io
[14:32] <thafreak> i thought domains had to be a min of 3 characters anyway?
[14:32] <paultag> nah
[14:32] <paultag> that'
[14:32] <paultag> that's a per TLD thing
[14:33] <thafreak> i looked at .io's but they're likle $99
[14:33] <paultag> thafreak: e.g. x.org is a thing
[14:33] <paultag> thafreak: bad registrar :)
[14:33] <thafreak> how much you get them for?
[14:33] <paultag> 40 something
[14:33] <paultag> I can do it for about 32 after I get my account updated
[14:34] <thafreak> meh, still...unless I had a good reason, I don't think I'd pay that much
[14:34] <paultag> my .ag is expensive
[14:34] <paultag> like 90 some odd bucks.
[14:34] <thafreak> i have a .me that I pay a bit more for already
[14:34] <paultag> .me is not so bad
[14:34] <paultag> .org is cheep
[14:42] <jrgifford> .com can be cheap
[14:42] <jrgifford> .net meh
[14:42] <paultag> I need to stop buying domains
[14:43] <jrgifford> how many do you have now?
[14:43] <paultag> I toned it down
[14:43] <paultag> I think I'm down to about 8
[14:43] <jrgifford> i'm at 6 right now.
[14:43] <paultag> I just droped a few
[14:43] <paultag> I need to get my shit in line
[14:44] <jrgifford> personal, company 1, company 2, armyofminions.com, and a few others.
[14:44] <paultag> word
[14:46] <jrgifford> i mean, i saw armyofminions.com was available, and said MINE
[14:46] <jrgifford> IM GETTING THAT
[14:46] <thafreak> wow, my pogoplug is pushing 2 years uptime
[14:47] <thafreak> armyofminions....you should use it to run a salt master
[14:47] <thafreak> (see saltstack.org)
[14:47] <jrgifford> thafreak: i start to get worried after 3 months.
[14:47] <thafreak> worried about what?
[14:47] <jrgifford> generally because a kernel update landed, and i don't use ksplice.
[14:47] <jrgifford> uptime.
[14:48] <thafreak> The only machines i reboot frequently are the ones that run a web browser
[14:48] <jrgifford> but yes, i was thinking puppet, since that's my thing, but yes, i could do that with salt as well.
[14:49] <thafreak> just saying...salt actually calls their slaves minions
[14:49] <jrgifford> right.
[14:49] <thafreak> seems fitting
[14:49] <jrgifford> i could use that for a hosted salt service.
[14:49] <thafreak> i still need to run some tests with salt on the raspberry pi
[14:50] <jrgifford> was reading salt doesn't work for the pi
[14:50] <paultag> you're still on that salt grind?
[14:51] <thafreak> oh really
[14:51] <thafreak> i had some problems getting salt to work on the pogo plug
[14:52] <thafreak> it was their crypto or something...the implementation was endian specific
[14:52] <thafreak> but i installed a pure python version and it mostly worked
[14:54] <thafreak> and yes, I'm still on that salt grind
[14:54] <thafreak> it's still the closest thing to what I wanted to build from scratch...and it's already implemented
[14:54] <thafreak> plus they've already built in windows support
[14:55] <paultag> mmm
[14:55] <thafreak> so I'm hoping I can deploy at customer's location, and manage some aspects of their winblows boxen remotely
[15:14] <jrgifford> that is an advantage of salt
[15:14] <jrgifford> puppet/chef can do some stuff, but from what i've been told, salt does it better.
[15:51] <thafreak> anyone in here know about newer lcd/led monitors?
[15:52] <thafreak> I'm looking to get 2 large-ish (23-24")
[15:52] <thafreak> i want to play games on at least one of them
[15:52] <thafreak> is the 5ms time monitors decent, or do I really want the 2ms or even a 1ms one?
[18:24]  * dzho watches with interest
[18:24] <dzho> thafreak: if you find out elsehow, I'd appreciate a comment here about what you learn
[18:26] <thafreak> dzho: find out what? monitors?
[18:29] <dzho> yeah
[18:29] <dzho> particularly, about the speed requirements
[18:30] <dzho> I'm sure there's a write up out there on teh intarwebs that explains this all, the trick is finding it.
[18:30] <dzho> in a simple minded way, I look at 5ms and think that's equivalent to 200Hz which sounds plenty fast to me
[18:30] <dzho> given as how I was just talking today with someone about how valuable we still find CRTs that can do 120Hz or better at a decent resolution.
[18:31] <thafreak> yeah, from what I've read, it all says faster is better...but anything bellow 6ms should be fine
[18:31] <dzho> but there's probably some other factor I'm not considering, or the rates are not so directly comparable because of reasons
[18:31] <thafreak> it's up to your eyes...some people see ghosting at 6ms some don't
[18:32] <dzho> slow eyes
[18:32] <thafreak> but i guess there's also two main panel types, TN and IPS now
[18:32] <thafreak> IPS has better colors and angles, but typically slower response times and more energy consumption
[18:33] <thafreak> so, it all seems to be a bunch of tradeoffs
[18:33] <thafreak> but I've seen most of the new IPS ones are also atleast 5ms...so I guess that's not too bad
[18:33] <thafreak> and from what I've read, they'd be better for things where colors matter (like photo editing)
[18:34] <thafreak> so I think since I'll not be playing games most of the time, I'm going to lean that direction
[18:34] <thafreak> I'll probably be doing much more photo editing/web development/programming/IRC than gaming
[18:35] <dzho> so say we all
[18:35] <thafreak> :)
[18:36] <thafreak> what I'm most insterested in, is finding one at a decent price at best buy, where I can get 6mo financing :)
[18:37] <dzho> I'm just going to look into the Oculus Rift stuff and see if Pymol will drive them.
[18:37] <dzho> 300 bucks, oh boy
[18:37] <thafreak> Pymol?
[18:38] <dzho> you know it mang
[18:38] <thafreak> no, "what is Pymol for 300 dzho"
[18:39] <dzho> oh
[18:39] <dzho> sorry
[18:39] <dzho> pymol.org
[18:39] <dzho> 3D molecular visualization software
[18:39] <thafreak> ah
[18:39] <thafreak> in python i'm guessing?
[18:39] <dzho> it's written in  . . . C++, I think, but has python bindings
[18:40] <thafreak> oh, ok...
[18:40] <thafreak> usually projects that begin with py are python...but ok
[18:40] <dzho> http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=10808#p47940
[18:40] <dzho> yeah, maybe it goes beyond "has bindings"
[18:41] <thafreak> stranger things have happened...like how they used windows XP at NASA and in space...retards
[18:41] <skellat> It was flight qualified for the longest time.  Flight qualification is not a speedy process.  After all, only Squeeze is going up to the ISS...not Wheezy...
[18:42] <dzho> from a pure FOSS perspective, its late developer and founder established an interesting approach to licensing.
[18:42] <dzho> the source code is licensed under a permissive, BSDish license.
[18:42] <dzho> but the binaries he produces are not released that way.
[18:42] <dzho> he's like, if you can build it for your platform from source, more power to you.
[18:43] <dzho> so, you can get it "for free" via Ubuntu or Debian packages.
[18:43] <dzho> but *not* for Windows or Mac.
[18:44] <dzho> sorry, I should say the binaries he produced.
[18:44] <dzho> his widow sold the rights and the company that bought them, last I saw, was continuing in that same vein.
[18:44]  * dzho has a muppets moment
[18:45] <dzho> XP INNNNNN SPAAAAAAAACE
[18:47] <thafreak> that's the way all software should be
[18:48] <thafreak> open, but if you want packaged binaries, support, etc, then be willing to pay
[18:48] <dzho> I resisted his approach for a long time, but now I think I see the justice in it.
[18:49] <dzho> sort of like the way I resisted the FSF approach when I first started trying to get GNU things on an IRIX box:  "What do you mean, I can pay you for tapes of the software?  Tapes?  Pay?  What part of 'free' don't you understand?"  (time passes)  "Oh."