| ahoneybun | valorie: ping me when you get back on | 00:17 |
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| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [982889] X trying to start before plymouth has finished using the drm driver @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/982889 (by Tomas Vanderka) | 00:19 |
| ahoneybun | JontheEchidna: ping | 00:34 |
| JontheEchidna | ahoneybun: pong | 00:34 |
| ahoneybun | valorie and I were talking about a steam bug in Kubuntu, do you see it in the log? | 00:34 |
| JontheEchidna | yup, found it | 00:36 |
| JontheEchidna | Yeah, Steam is offered as a free commerical app via their software store | 00:36 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm working on support for their API for Muon 2.1 | 00:36 |
| ahoneybun | ok great, we were wondering why usc was needed to install | 00:37 |
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| ahoneybun | back | 01:49 |
| valorie | ahoneybun: ping | 02:13 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: got you | 02:13 |
| ahoneybun | pong | 02:13 |
| valorie | so I was trying to make a list of the links, I guess you did that the right way | 02:14 |
| ahoneybun | oh I beat you to it? I also included your changes as well | 02:15 |
| valorie | but aren't we also going to have development, multimedia, office, etc. | 02:15 |
| valorie | not sure we need sections; just links | 02:15 |
| ahoneybun | sections | 02:15 |
| ahoneybun | ? | 02:15 |
| valorie | the verbiage really adds nothing | 02:15 |
| valorie | such as: | 02:16 |
| valorie | Internet | 02:16 |
| valorie | For information about Internet applications see here. | 02:16 |
| valorie | that seems silly to me | 02:16 |
| valorie | instead, just a list of the subpages | 02:16 |
| ahoneybun | oh well change it | 02:16 |
| ahoneybun | as long as it look great :) | 02:17 |
| valorie | perhaps with a nice screenie of the kickoff Applications menu | 02:17 |
| valorie | ok | 02:17 |
| valorie | I'm not sure my menus are like first run though | 02:17 |
| ahoneybun | thats my goal | 02:17 |
| valorie | does everyone have all the sections? | 02:17 |
| valorie | yeah | 02:17 |
| valorie | ok, I'll get back to work on that if you are done for now | 02:18 |
| ahoneybun | I'll get the screenshot | 02:18 |
| ahoneybun | sure | 02:18 |
| valorie | and I suggest we use the same order as the menu | 02:25 |
| ahoneybun | done | 02:29 |
| valorie | where did you put that image? | 02:31 |
| valorie | I just saved my work on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Software | 02:32 |
| valorie | I was thinking it would be cool to have it on the right side of the page, if that's possible | 02:32 |
| ahoneybun | it's possible | 02:35 |
| ahoneybun | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Software | 02:37 |
| valorie | hmmm, that's not first-run thought | 02:40 |
| valorie | with wine in there!' | 02:40 |
| valorie | lol | 02:40 |
| ahoneybun | oh yea I know | 02:40 |
| valorie | looks good though | 02:40 |
| valorie | we can use that as a placeholder for now | 02:40 |
| ahoneybun | yes | 02:41 |
| valorie | might be nice to do a little page on the stuff at the bottom -- lost and found, etc. and explain what they are | 02:42 |
| valorie | anyway, this is enough to go on for starters | 02:42 |
| ahoneybun | ok | 02:44 |
| ahoneybun | so we are keeping development? | 02:44 |
| valorie | sure, why not? | 02:47 |
| valorie | we need devels, we <3 devels | 02:48 |
| ahoneybun | true | 02:48 |
| valorie | if people aren't interested, they won't click | 02:48 |
| ahoneybun | ok | 02:48 |
| ahoneybun | can I assign a page to you? | 02:50 |
| valorie | assign? | 02:56 |
| valorie | not sure we need to assign anything | 02:56 |
| valorie | but i'm planning on working on this tonight | 02:56 |
| ahoneybun | with trello I can | 02:57 |
| valorie | not sure I can deal with that responsibility!!!!!!!!!!! | 02:58 |
| valorie | jk | 02:58 |
| valorie | assign if you like | 02:58 |
| ahoneybun | ok cool lol | 02:58 |
| ahoneybun | anyway off for the night | 03:00 |
| valorie | sleep well | 03:01 |
| ahoneybun | thanks will be on saturday | 03:01 |
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| valorie | is there a way to get a list of 1. what we install by default and 2. offer on the DVD? | 05:26 |
| valorie | for the docs | 05:26 |
| Tm_T | valorie: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/13.04/release/kubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.manifest | 05:28 |
| Tm_T | ...I assume that's what is installed on the DVD (and thus the default install?) | 05:28 |
| valorie | thanks | 05:29 |
| valorie | I think the difference is kubuntu desktop vs KDE-full | 05:30 |
| valorie | which is everything on the dvd | 05:30 |
| valorie | woah, that is very complete | 05:30 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: yeah manifest is what you want | 05:34 |
| valorie | I'll add the link to that to the trello card so I don't lose it | 05:35 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 05:47 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: Riddell should we SRU fixes to oxygen-gtk ? see bug 963736 | 05:47 |
| ubottu | bug 963736 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "thunderbird and firefox freeze at random : must be killed and restarted" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/963736 | 05:47 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Based on the severity of the bug, I'd say yes. | 05:55 |
| shadeslayer | k, will have a look today | 05:56 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: can we just sru the 1.3.3 release from saucy? the diff doesn't look very invasive | 06:02 |
| shadeslayer | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/139674367/gtk2-engines-oxygen_1.3.1-0ubuntu1_1.3.3-1ubuntu1.diff.gz | 06:02 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Sure. | 06:04 |
| shadeslayer | cool | 06:04 |
| debfx | shadeslayer: does the new version fix that? | 06:40 |
| debfx | I have the same problem but thunderbird only freezes every couple of days so it's a bit difficult to verify | 06:40 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: yes, it was commited to the 1.3 branch | 06:40 |
| shadeslayer | it = the diff | 06:40 |
| shadeslayer | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318891 | 06:41 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 318891 in gtk2-engine "gcin hime can not run with latest oxygen-gtk" [Grave,Resolved: fixed] | 06:41 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 06:42 |
| shadeslayer | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318891#c93 | 06:42 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell will smack me if I break his emacs | 06:42 |
| shadeslayer | and I won't get Dr Who episodes | 06:42 |
| soee | good morning | 06:43 |
| debfx | so the fix has been committed after the 1.3.3 release | 06:45 |
| debfx | ah now I remember | 06:45 |
| debfx | I've sponsored a Debian upload for this ^^ | 06:45 |
| debfx | so 1.3.3-2 needs merging | 06:46 |
| shadeslayer | ack | 06:47 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: wanna do that for Saucy and SRU for raring? | 06:48 |
| shadeslayer | or do you want me to do it? | 06:48 |
| debfx | shadeslayer: I have to leave for $work now so feel free to do that | 06:51 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 06:51 |
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| Riddell | shadeslayer: those oxygen-gtk bugs do seen like worth a SRU if there's patches | 08:03 |
| shadeslayer | there are | 08:03 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: will you take care of it? | 08:08 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 08:08 |
| shadeslayer | I already uploaded the patches to saucy | 08:08 |
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| Riddell | "Fathi Boudra (fboudra) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu | 08:31 |
| Riddell | Members (kubuntu-members) team until 2014-06-06." | 08:31 |
| Riddell | yay fabo still loves us! | 08:31 |
| fabo | indeed :) but busy as ever | 08:32 |
| yofel | shadeslayer, Quintasan: I got a mail from someone working on plasma-active on mer it seems asking what the state in kubuntu is, I forwarded it to you guys and -devel as I'm clueless. | 09:05 |
| yofel | hm, no, just a user | 09:06 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ :) | 09:06 |
| Riddell | dunno where plasma active 4 is, not convinced it exists | 09:08 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: my guess is that he's talking about master :P | 09:09 |
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| shadeslayer | Riddell: saucy fixed, should I just upload to raring-proposed now? | 09:27 |
| shadeslayer | and then the review happens in the queue | 09:27 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: yeah, and subscribe ~ubuntu-sru and ensure test case is on bug and anything else an SRU needs | 09:48 |
| shadeslayer | roger | 09:48 |
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| shadeslayer | Riddell: uploaded gtk2-engines-oxygen | 10:07 |
| shadeslayer | working on oxygen-gtk3 | 10:07 |
| Riddell | thanks | 10:10 |
| BluesKaj | howdy all | 10:53 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/2.0.1-0ubuntu0.1/+build/4629848 | 11:03 |
| ScottK | Please be fixing. | 11:03 |
| * shadeslayer is now member of the error tracker team | 11:09 | |
| shadeslayer | that was fast | 11:09 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: cor, what gossip can you find? | 11:09 |
| shadeslayer | I can see stacktraces | 11:10 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 11:20 |
| shadeslayer | there are 2 more commits that I can see from the commit log that might be beneficial to oxygen-gtk3 | 11:20 |
| Quintasan | hurrr | 11:20 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: We need to make a | 11:20 |
| Quintasan | PA sprint | 11:20 |
| Quintasan | not sure when | 11:20 |
| shadeslayer | whenever you have time | 11:28 |
| Riddell | PA sprint? | 11:28 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: make a doodle | 11:29 |
| shadeslayer | packaging PA sprint :P | 11:29 |
| Quintasan | I shall | 11:29 |
| shadeslayer | I am not sure what to reply to that email, and I'm too drowsy after drinking that cough syrup | 11:29 |
| Quintasan | lel | 11:35 |
| shadeslayer | hurray powercut | 11:39 |
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| Darkwing | Why do I always wait till last minute to write an essay? | 12:38 |
| Riddell | need some testers to try out wifi connection | 13:02 |
| Riddell | !testers | 13:02 |
| ubottu | Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader for information. | 13:02 |
| Riddell | if you delete your wireless profile from network manager | 13:03 |
| Riddell | then connect again | 13:03 |
| Riddell | does it show a notification "failed" but also a tick for connection? | 13:03 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, sorry I can't help , daughter still hasn't sent my laptop back :( | 13:04 |
| Riddell | tariq: hi, I don't think I've got an e-mail from you, have I missed it? | 13:04 |
| Darkwing | Riddell: Saucy? | 13:10 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: looks like a toolchain issue | 13:11 |
| Riddell | Darkwing: now darling, not in public | 13:12 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 13:12 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: all the errors are in /usr/include/c++/4.7/type_traits | 13:12 |
| soee | Riddell, but should i disable cable connection first ? | 13:13 |
| Darkwing | Riddell: I knew there was a reason I loved you :P | 13:13 |
| Riddell | soee: yes if you're using it | 13:17 |
| tariq | Riddell: hi you haven't got an email from me - not sent it yet! Will make some time over the weekend to get something to you! | 13:17 |
| Riddell | groovy | 13:18 |
| soee | Riddell, got my message? | 13:24 |
| Riddell | soee: nope | 13:29 |
| soee | Riddell, soee> i have removed my profiles, unpluged cable, activate wirless, add new profile and im connected without any problems (13.04) | 13:29 |
| Riddell | soee: lovely thanks, didn't think it was a common issue or we'd be getting lots of reports | 13:30 |
| lordievader | Good afternoon | 13:35 |
| lordievader | ahoneybun: Ping | 13:36 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: everything's fine after a rebuild request | 13:37 |
| * yofel now has error tracker access too | 13:49 | |
| yofel | that was fast indeed considering it's friday | 13:50 |
| Riddell | yofel: find any good gossip? | 13:58 |
| yofel | well, the stats are interesting considering that I can now finally see what actually happened. It obviously doesn't have many of our packages though, except kde-config-touchpad -.-' | 14:00 |
| Riddell | we'd have to turn on apport presumably for it to be much use | 14:03 |
| Riddell | why kde-config-touchpad ? | 14:03 |
| yofel | Riddell: comes right after ubiquity in crash frequency: https://errors.ubuntu.com/?user=kubuntu-bugs&period=year | 14:05 |
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| Riddell | !testers | saucy upstart job needs testing | 14:20 |
| ubottu | saucy upstart job needs testing: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader for information. | 14:20 |
| Riddell | see #ubuntu-devel | 14:20 |
| jessie | vHanda: Have a chance to look at my DB yet? | 14:54 |
| Peace- | anybody know how to launch an animatio with a parameter? | 14:55 |
| Peace- | with qml | 14:55 |
| Riddell | cor, 4.10.4 | 16:50 |
| Riddell | !ninjas | 16:50 |
| ubottu | Ninja Time! apachelogger, debfx, JontheEchidna, Quintasan, Riddell, ScottK, yofel, smartboyhw, murthy | 16:50 |
| soee | ;] | 17:35 |
| Quintasan | argh | 17:56 |
| Quintasan | freaking tests | 18:01 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: If I manage to pass everything this upcoming week we're doing a sprint during the next weekend | 18:01 |
| Quintasan | heuehueheuheuehueheuehe | 18:02 |
| * Quintasan goes crazy | 18:02 | |
| Quintasan | wish me luck | 18:02 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: ping | 18:13 |
| Dark_light | Is there a concrete chance that kubuntu could be killed by mir ? | 19:09 |
| BluesKaj | Dark_light,how? | 19:41 |
| Dark_light | I don't know I was just reading this | 19:43 |
| Dark_light | http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2013/05/mir-in-kubuntu/ | 19:43 |
| BluesKaj | kubuntu isn't going to use mir , wayland is in the works for kubuntu , and canonical no longer supports kubuntu development , Blue Systems has taken on kubuntu support | 19:43 |
| Dark_light | yes that I know but will blue systems be able to provide an up to date graphic stack ? and what about package compatibility ? | 19:45 |
| Dark_light | BluesKaj: ^ | 19:52 |
| BluesKaj | I supposed the devs had better get to work on both graphics and audio , and if the hardware drivers aren't designed for the new mir or wayland display server , then we're all in trouble | 19:52 |
| BluesKaj | but there' are some influential ppl with level heads who will come up with the right solution and meanwhile we'll struggle along with X But.I'm optimistic | 19:55 |
| BluesKaj | a long as it isn't the same ppl who pushed pulseaudio on us | 19:55 |
| yofel | Dark_light: it's still a bit early to say anything concrete on graphics stack maintenance. Most other ubuntu flavours will be in the same situation so we'll see where the load can be shared. | 19:58 |
| yofel | It's mostly ubuntu patching of the stack that's worrying, but there we'll have to see what the future will bring. | 19:58 |
| Dark_light | in a way it could have a positive turn, the ubuntu graphics stack isn't exactly one of the best from what I read | 20:03 |
| Dark_light | right? | 20:04 |
| yofel | it isn't, at least not for us. The problem is that we would still have to share mesa, or find a way to maintain 2 copies of it | 20:05 |
| Dark_light | well I'm not an expert but I assume they will just apply patches when building the package, wouldn't it be as simple as just stripping it of the patches and rebuilding it ? | 20:07 |
| yofel | possibly | 20:07 |
| yofel | + some re-packaging so the packages can be distinguished from each other | 20:08 |
| Dark_light | ok, thanks! | 20:12 |
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| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Thanks. | 22:50 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Did you see the security issue I mailed to kubuntu-devel? | 22:51 |
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