| infinity | houkouonchi-work: It's the linux-image postinst that's meant to twiddle them. | 00:38 |
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| houkouonchi-work | infinity: well if you check my pastebin it doesn't appear to be doing it or do you have to do something special when making the linux-image .deb to get it to do that? | 00:38 |
| infinity | houkouonchi-work: Well, the distro packages are clearly working, since your links point to -31- and -30- for current and old. | 00:38 |
| infinity | houkouonchi-work: So, I'd assume your postinst is different from ours. | 00:39 |
| infinity | houkouonchi-work: At which point, I can't say how yours is different, cause I haven't seen it. | 00:39 |
| infinity | diff -u /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-{3.5.0-31-highbank.postinst,3.9.0-ceph-b5b09be3-highbank} should be enlightening. | 00:40 |
| infinity | houkouonchi-work: If you're producing yours with make-kpkg, rather than using our kernel packaging, it will probably be quite different. | 00:40 |
| houkouonchi-work | well when you build a debian with make 'deb-pkg' do you need to specify something special to get it to do the the symlinks? | 00:41 |
| infinity | See above, we don't use make-kpkg, we build our kernels as proper Debian source packages (from the 'linux' source package), so the method is quite different. | 00:41 |
| houkouonchi-work | big differences ok so its part of the postinstall script of the .deb hmm | 00:43 |
| houkouonchi-work | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=HwMs9Qr1 | 00:43 |
| infinity | You want a unified diff (-u), if you want that to be readable... | 00:43 |
| houkouonchi-work | really the post install of the one i built is pretty much nothing | 00:43 |
| infinity | Oh, but true, the make-kpkg one is mostly empty these days, it would seem. | 00:44 |
| houkouonchi-work | yeah its pretty much non-existent | 00:44 |
| infinity | So, it would seem there might need to be a hook script to do the symlink twiddling in the new world order. | 00:44 |
| houkouonchi-work | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=HVBtbRWg <-- inline one not that its saying much | 00:45 |
| infinity | (Or, use the Ubuntu packaging for your kernels instead, if your goal is just to add some patches to the highbank kernel...) | 00:45 |
| houkouonchi-work | well its more like build kernels using newer ceph-client stuff | 00:45 |
| houkouonchi-work | not really just a matter of patches | 00:45 |
| houkouonchi-work | Do you think stealing the post install script off the ubuntu one is likely to work with a different one. It looks pretty generic so a quick look over it by me looks like it would probably work? | 00:48 |
| infinity | Possibly. | 00:49 |
| infinity | Though seems like overkill if all you want is the symlink twiddling. | 00:49 |
| houkouonchi-work | i guess my $version is being specified in the file though... Yeah I guess I am just trying to figure out the best way to automate this | 00:49 |
| houkouonchi-work | these kernel packages are all automated and the installation/testing is automated too the problem is if that symlink isnt correct when the machine is rebooted u-boot isnt loading the kernel | 00:50 |
| houkouonchi-work | even though it says its flashing with it during the installation of the package... | 00:50 |
| houkouonchi-work | might be easier if we just create the symlink in our code-base that does the testing after it does the install rather than doing it with the post install of the .deb I just wasnt sure what handled that stuff. Not super familiar with the .deb packaging system | 00:51 |
| infinity | Well, there is no "flashing" to do with flash-kernel on highbank, that's a bit of a lie. | 00:51 |
| houkouonchi-work | Thanks for the help | 00:51 |
| houkouonchi-work | infinity: then it makes sense why it didnt boot the kernel =) | 00:51 |
| houkouonchi-work | cant wait for these newer arm hardware. Even with like 10+ nodes and distcc it takes a long time to build stuff on them heh | 00:53 |
| infinity | So, Debian's kernel postinsts are also still the massive long Perl postinst. | 00:53 |
| infinity | I wonder why make-kpkg's is so anaemic. | 00:53 |
| infinity | Waaait, so is the one in make-kpkg. | 00:54 |
| infinity | houkouonchi-work: How are you building these kernel packages? | 00:55 |
| infinity | houkouonchi-work: Are you using "make-kpkg" from the "kernel-package" package? | 00:55 |
| infinity | houkouonchi-work: Cause that should provide you with something with the complex/useful postinst. | 00:55 |
| houkouonchi-work | infinity: its kernels from git doing make debb-pkg | 01:27 |
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| tharvey_home | where did ubuntu core for 11.10 go? I see lots of references to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/releases/11.10 yet it doesn't exist (removed as 11.10 is no longer supported?) | 07:22 |
| infinity | tharvey_home: 11.10 is EOL and gone, yeah. Use 12.04. | 07:23 |
| tharvey_home | so is core just another rootfs like server, desktop, cloud are? is core the only one that supports arm? | 07:24 |
| infinity | core is just a minimal rootfs with pretty much nothing installed but essential packages and apt. | 07:25 |
| infinity | We also have full installer images for some platforms (like omap4/Panda), but not many. | 07:25 |
| tharvey_home | would you call 'server' and 'desktop' a rootfs too then? | 07:25 |
| infinity | And netboot installer images for things like highbank and armadaxp. | 07:25 |
| infinity | server and desktop are installers, not rootfses. | 07:25 |
| tharvey_home | where are the installer images and how would I go about creating one for a different board? | 07:27 |
| infinity | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/ for netboot images, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/ for some installer images. Creating one for a specific board isn't trivial, and not something I'd try to explain at 1:30am. | 07:28 |
| infinity | This is all very much a hacker's game right now, still. It's not easy to give simple "this is how you do it" instructions for booting a board we don't support. | 07:29 |
| infinity | But that's slowly changing with generic multiplatform kernels. | 07:30 |
| infinity | Slowly. | 07:30 |
| tharvey_home | well, I know how to 'boot' my board with say the core rootfs, I'm just not clear what the 'installer image' does for me - perhaps make it easier for someone to repeat my process less manually? | 07:31 |
| infinity | tharvey_home: Possibly that, yeah. But it's certainly not a necessity for people to have shiny installers, if you can give people simple instructions on booting and jamming a kernel/config into ubuntu-core. | 07:32 |
| tharvey_home | looking at some of the installer images - I see they are just the bins needed like the bootloader, and kernel, boot scripts and then the .img* files are ie usd images you would dd to the usd? | 07:34 |
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| infinity | tharvey_home: The .img files are DDable to SD, yeah. | 07:35 |
| infinity | tharvey_home: And for some platforms (androidish platforms, like ac100 or nexus devices), we provide a bootimg to stuff in the boot partition. | 07:36 |
| tharvey_home | so the images presume a specific sized uSD for example? | 07:36 |
| infinity | tharvey_home: The old preinstalled images we used in 12.04 actually just auto-resize to fill the card on first boot. | 07:36 |
| infinity | tharvey_home: The images we did for 12.10 and later use the same installer as x86 desktop images and expect to install FROM the card to an external storage device (like a USB hard drive). | 07:37 |
| tharvey_home | ah... neat. Is there someplace I can see the installer script that does the auto-resize for the 12-04 images and the script that does the installing for 12.10? | 07:39 |
| infinity | The "script" that does the installing for 12.10 is ubiquity. It's the full desktop installer. | 07:40 |
| infinity | The auto-resizing magic in 12.04 is in the jasper-initramfs package. | 07:40 |
| tharvey_home | and what is used to 'build' the img file (what dictates the packages and actually installed them to a rootfs)? | 07:42 |
| infinity | tharvey_home: That's a combination of live-build/livecd-rootfs, and the finishing touches are cdimage. That's the part(s) of the process that I hinted at being pretty complex and not something for a 1:30am conversation. :) | 07:43 |
| tharvey_home | infinity, no worries - thanks for the explanation | 07:44 |
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| LetoThe2nd | for the record_ he/she is banned in #pandaboard now | 09:04 |
| hrw | who? | 09:45 |
| hrw | morphis? | 09:45 |
| LetoThe2nd | yes. | 09:48 |
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| brykt | Hi. | 14:42 |
| brykt | I have installed ubuntu for ARM on a beaglebone black. Should it be possible to login to the BBB via ssh when it has booted. I am able to ping the BBB, but when I try the ssh into it i get: ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.70 port 22: No route to host | 14:43 |
| maxinux | yes you should be able to | 14:43 |
| maxinux | can the bbb ssh into itself? | 14:44 |
| brykt | I tried using "ubuntu" and "root" as users but still no luck. | 14:45 |
| brykt | How do you mean ssh into itself? | 14:45 |
| maxinux | ssh from it to it :) | 14:45 |
| brykt | I dont have any acces to temrinal. My mointor does not work with the mini-HDMI output. | 14:46 |
| ogra_ | well, did you set up the network and did you install ssh ? | 14:47 |
| hrw | ogra_: I just had to ask the same ;D | 14:47 |
| ogra_ | we dont offer any official images for the beagles anymore, best is to talk to the person who created that image | 14:47 |
| maxinux | are you using the armhf image brykt? | 14:48 |
| brykt | I flashed the eMMC by booting up from the mini SD-card.... | 14:48 |
| brykt | I dont know how to set it up. | 14:48 |
| maxinux | so you got the image from armhf.com? | 14:48 |
| brykt | I used the image from this page: | 14:48 |
| brykt | http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#eMMC:_BeagleBone_Black | 14:48 |
| ogra_ | well, find the person who created it | 14:48 |
| maxinux | ive not used that image | 14:49 |
| maxinux | i use www.armhf.com/index.php/boards/beaglebone-black/ loaded on an SD card | 14:49 |
| maxinux | though it can be loaded onto the mmc if you want | 14:50 |
| brykt | ok, great. I will try that one... | 14:50 |
| maxinux | note that it does not support fbdev out of th ebox | 14:51 |
| maxinux | oh no screen | 14:51 |
| maxinux | you dont care | 14:51 |
| maxinux | that image will bring up eth0 automatically via dhcp on first boot and has ssh going .. and supports all the wifi cards ive thrown at it... but i also reloaded a new kernel on it shortly thereafter... 3.8 > 3.2 | 14:52 |
| maxinux | though i suppose i could give you my kernel and modules if you need it | 14:52 |
| brykt | ah, ok. Will keep that in mind if I ever want to connect a screen. | 14:53 |
| hrw | maxinux: iirc beaglebone black had 3.8 kernel out of the box | 14:53 |
| maxinux | hrw: angstrom comes with, but ubuntu does not | 14:53 |
| hrw | maxinux: person which created image to blame then | 14:54 |
| maxinux | im not complaining | 14:54 |
| maxinux | i simply cross recompiled my kernel | 14:54 |
| hrw | ;) | 14:54 |
| maxinux | i jokingly recompiled on the bbb also | 14:54 |
| maxinux | a few -6 hours later it was starting on modules | 14:54 |
| brykt | You loaded Angstrom 3.2 from 3.8? | 14:56 |
| maxinux | ? no | 14:56 |
| maxinux | ubuntu arm image from armhf.com ships with kernel 3.2 | 14:56 |
| maxinux | i compiled 3.8.13 and loaded it on my bbb | 14:56 |
| brykt | ah. ok... I'll get back to you if I cannot get the stuff I need the BBB for to work. Maybe 3.8.13 will solve it... | 14:58 |
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| T3CHKOMMIE | hello everyone. | 22:46 |
| T3CHKOMMIE | I was wondering if I could get some pointers on imaging an SDcard with Ubuntu Server Arm... | 22:46 |
| T3CHKOMMIE | I have a BeagleBone Black, and I have tried the documentation several times, but still cant get it to post. | 22:47 |
| T3CHKOMMIE | does anyone know of a good method to getting the image on an SD card? | 22:47 |
| mijk | hi | 23:52 |
| maxinux | hi. | 23:53 |
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