[00:38] houkouonchi-work: It's the linux-image postinst that's meant to twiddle them. [00:38] infinity: well if you check my pastebin it doesn't appear to be doing it or do you have to do something special when making the linux-image .deb to get it to do that? [00:38] houkouonchi-work: Well, the distro packages are clearly working, since your links point to -31- and -30- for current and old. [00:39] houkouonchi-work: So, I'd assume your postinst is different from ours. [00:39] houkouonchi-work: At which point, I can't say how yours is different, cause I haven't seen it. [00:40] diff -u /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-{3.5.0-31-highbank.postinst,3.9.0-ceph-b5b09be3-highbank} should be enlightening. [00:40] houkouonchi-work: If you're producing yours with make-kpkg, rather than using our kernel packaging, it will probably be quite different. [00:41] well when you build a debian with make 'deb-pkg' do you need to specify something special to get it to do the the symlinks? [00:41] See above, we don't use make-kpkg, we build our kernels as proper Debian source packages (from the 'linux' source package), so the method is quite different. [00:43] big differences ok so its part of the postinstall script of the .deb hmm [00:43] http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=HwMs9Qr1 [00:43] You want a unified diff (-u), if you want that to be readable... [00:43] really the post install of the one i built is pretty much nothing [00:44] Oh, but true, the make-kpkg one is mostly empty these days, it would seem. [00:44] yeah its pretty much non-existent [00:44] So, it would seem there might need to be a hook script to do the symlink twiddling in the new world order. [00:45] http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=HVBtbRWg <-- inline one not that its saying much [00:45] (Or, use the Ubuntu packaging for your kernels instead, if your goal is just to add some patches to the highbank kernel...) [00:45] well its more like build kernels using newer ceph-client stuff [00:45] not really just a matter of patches [00:48] Do you think stealing the post install script off the ubuntu one is likely to work with a different one. It looks pretty generic so a quick look over it by me looks like it would probably work? [00:49] Possibly. [00:49] Though seems like overkill if all you want is the symlink twiddling. [00:49] i guess my $version is being specified in the file though... Yeah I guess I am just trying to figure out the best way to automate this [00:50] these kernel packages are all automated and the installation/testing is automated too the problem is if that symlink isnt correct when the machine is rebooted u-boot isnt loading the kernel [00:50] even though it says its flashing with it during the installation of the package... [00:51] might be easier if we just create the symlink in our code-base that does the testing after it does the install rather than doing it with the post install of the .deb I just wasnt sure what handled that stuff. Not super familiar with the .deb packaging system [00:51] Well, there is no "flashing" to do with flash-kernel on highbank, that's a bit of a lie. [00:51] Thanks for the help [00:51] infinity: then it makes sense why it didnt boot the kernel =) [00:53] cant wait for these newer arm hardware. Even with like 10+ nodes and distcc it takes a long time to build stuff on them heh [00:53] So, Debian's kernel postinsts are also still the massive long Perl postinst. [00:53] I wonder why make-kpkg's is so anaemic. [00:54] Waaait, so is the one in make-kpkg. [00:55] houkouonchi-work: How are you building these kernel packages? [00:55] houkouonchi-work: Are you using "make-kpkg" from the "kernel-package" package? [00:55] houkouonchi-work: Cause that should provide you with something with the complex/useful postinst. [01:27] infinity: its kernels from git doing make debb-pkg === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === micahg_ is now known as micahg === prp^2 is now known as prpplague [07:22] where did ubuntu core for 11.10 go? I see lots of references to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/releases/11.10 yet it doesn't exist (removed as 11.10 is no longer supported?) [07:23] tharvey_home: 11.10 is EOL and gone, yeah. Use 12.04. [07:24] so is core just another rootfs like server, desktop, cloud are? is core the only one that supports arm? [07:25] core is just a minimal rootfs with pretty much nothing installed but essential packages and apt. [07:25] We also have full installer images for some platforms (like omap4/Panda), but not many. [07:25] would you call 'server' and 'desktop' a rootfs too then? [07:25] And netboot installer images for things like highbank and armadaxp. [07:25] server and desktop are installers, not rootfses. [07:27] where are the installer images and how would I go about creating one for a different board? [07:28] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/ for netboot images, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/ for some installer images. Creating one for a specific board isn't trivial, and not something I'd try to explain at 1:30am. [07:29] This is all very much a hacker's game right now, still. It's not easy to give simple "this is how you do it" instructions for booting a board we don't support. [07:30] But that's slowly changing with generic multiplatform kernels. [07:30] Slowly. [07:31] well, I know how to 'boot' my board with say the core rootfs, I'm just not clear what the 'installer image' does for me - perhaps make it easier for someone to repeat my process less manually? [07:32] tharvey_home: Possibly that, yeah. But it's certainly not a necessity for people to have shiny installers, if you can give people simple instructions on booting and jamming a kernel/config into ubuntu-core. [07:34] looking at some of the installer images - I see they are just the bins needed like the bootloader, and kernel, boot scripts and then the .img* files are ie usd images you would dd to the usd? === morphis|away is now known as morphis [07:35] tharvey_home: The .img files are DDable to SD, yeah. [07:36] tharvey_home: And for some platforms (androidish platforms, like ac100 or nexus devices), we provide a bootimg to stuff in the boot partition. [07:36] so the images presume a specific sized uSD for example? [07:36] tharvey_home: The old preinstalled images we used in 12.04 actually just auto-resize to fill the card on first boot. [07:37] tharvey_home: The images we did for 12.10 and later use the same installer as x86 desktop images and expect to install FROM the card to an external storage device (like a USB hard drive). [07:39] ah... neat. Is there someplace I can see the installer script that does the auto-resize for the 12-04 images and the script that does the installing for 12.10? [07:40] The "script" that does the installing for 12.10 is ubiquity. It's the full desktop installer. [07:40] The auto-resizing magic in 12.04 is in the jasper-initramfs package. [07:42] and what is used to 'build' the img file (what dictates the packages and actually installed them to a rootfs)? [07:43] tharvey_home: That's a combination of live-build/livecd-rootfs, and the finishing touches are cdimage. That's the part(s) of the process that I hinted at being pretty complex and not something for a 1:30am conversation. :) [07:44] infinity, no worries - thanks for the explanation === psivaa_afk is now known as psivaa === doko_ is now known as doko === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [09:04] for the record_ he/she is banned in #pandaboard now [09:45] who? [09:45] morphis? [09:48] yes. === davmor2_ is now known as davmor2 === prpplague is now known as prp^2 [14:42] Hi. [14:43] I have installed ubuntu for ARM on a beaglebone black. Should it be possible to login to the BBB via ssh when it has booted. I am able to ping the BBB, but when I try the ssh into it i get: ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.70 port 22: No route to host [14:43] yes you should be able to [14:44] can the bbb ssh into itself? [14:45] I tried using "ubuntu" and "root" as users but still no luck. [14:45] How do you mean ssh into itself? [14:45] ssh from it to it :) [14:46] I dont have any acces to temrinal. My mointor does not work with the mini-HDMI output. [14:47] well, did you set up the network and did you install ssh ? [14:47] ogra_: I just had to ask the same ;D [14:47] we dont offer any official images for the beagles anymore, best is to talk to the person who created that image [14:48] are you using the armhf image brykt? [14:48] I flashed the eMMC by booting up from the mini SD-card.... [14:48] I dont know how to set it up. [14:48] so you got the image from armhf.com? [14:48] I used the image from this page: [14:48] http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#eMMC:_BeagleBone_Black [14:48] well, find the person who created it [14:49] ive not used that image [14:49] i use www.armhf.com/index.php/boards/beaglebone-black/ loaded on an SD card [14:50] though it can be loaded onto the mmc if you want [14:50] ok, great. I will try that one... [14:51] note that it does not support fbdev out of th ebox [14:51] oh no screen [14:51] you dont care [14:52] that image will bring up eth0 automatically via dhcp on first boot and has ssh going .. and supports all the wifi cards ive thrown at it... but i also reloaded a new kernel on it shortly thereafter... 3.8 > 3.2 [14:52] though i suppose i could give you my kernel and modules if you need it [14:53] ah, ok. Will keep that in mind if I ever want to connect a screen. [14:53] maxinux: iirc beaglebone black had 3.8 kernel out of the box [14:53] hrw: angstrom comes with, but ubuntu does not [14:54] maxinux: person which created image to blame then [14:54] im not complaining [14:54] i simply cross recompiled my kernel [14:54] ;) [14:54] i jokingly recompiled on the bbb also [14:54] a few -6 hours later it was starting on modules [14:56] You loaded Angstrom 3.2 from 3.8? [14:56] ? no [14:56] ubuntu arm image from armhf.com ships with kernel 3.2 [14:56] i compiled 3.8.13 and loaded it on my bbb [14:58] ah. ok... I'll get back to you if I cannot get the stuff I need the BBB for to work. Maybe 3.8.13 will solve it... === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [22:46] hello everyone. [22:46] I was wondering if I could get some pointers on imaging an SDcard with Ubuntu Server Arm... [22:47] I have a BeagleBone Black, and I have tried the documentation several times, but still cant get it to post. [22:47] does anyone know of a good method to getting the image on an SD card? [23:52] hi [23:53] hi. === piscodig is now known as discopig