[02:45] <darkxst> jbicha, g-c-c with packagekit integration for installing language packs in on my logind ppa now if you want to test it ;)
[05:54] <lirex> Hallo, kann mir bitte jemand erklären ,wie man die Gastsitzung (lightdm) in Ubuntu-Gnome (gdm) einbauen kann?
[05:55] <lirex> Hello, can someone please tell me how to install the guest session (lightdm) in Ubuntu Gnome (gdm)?
[06:11] <darkxst> lirex, that is not supported in gdm
[06:12] <lirex> But I know you can install it possibly?
[07:07] <darkxst> lirex, best you could do would be to make a guest account with no password or something, there is no way to get a guest session like what exists in lightdm
[07:16] <lirex> but this would not erase ALL data when the guest logs off. Especially this is important because it should be a public PC. You could just install lightdm instead of GDM in order to have this feature or lack there more
[07:17] <darkxst> sure you can install lightdm
[08:42] <ricotz> darkxst, hi :)
[08:44] <ricotz> darkxst, what is the deal with ubuntu_fix_pc_plugindir.patch in network-manager?
[09:11] <ricotz> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/138796309/network-manager_0.9.8.0-0ubuntu7%2Blogind~raring2_0.9.8.0-0ubuntu7%2Blogind~raring3.diff.gz
[09:11] <darkxst> ricotz, it was to fix vpn plugins, however turned out it was incomplete
[09:12] <ricotz> darkxst, i will drop it then while copying the saucy package
[09:12] <ricotz> this isnt even upstream
[09:33] <darkxst> ricotz, make sure you test vpn plugins in g-c-c 3.6
[09:34] <ricotz> darkxst, why g-c-c 3.6?
[09:35] <darkxst> because that is in saucy still
[09:35] <darkxst> or are you copying saucy package to ppa?
[09:36] <ricotz> darkxst, i am copying the saucy nm package to the raring staging ppa
[09:36] <ricotz> so there is no need to test 3.6 things
[09:36] <darkxst> right, so vpn plugins will break again without that patch
[09:36] <ricotz> if g-c-c 3.6 is broken in saucy then this is another thing
[09:37] <ricotz> darkxst, that is why i asked you as i understood this patch didnt work anyway
[09:38] <ricotz> darkxst, is the vpn plugin installed in the wrong place?
[09:40] <darkxst> ricotz, yeh, its somewhat inconsistent, fallout from these patches https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/985788
[09:40] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 985788 in network-manager-vpnc (Ubuntu Precise) "Can’t connect to VPN from GNOME Shell" [Low,Triaged]
[09:40] <darkxst> external plugins all install to /usr/lib/NetworkManager,but
[09:41] <darkxst> the .pc file points to /usr/lib/x86*/NetworkManager
[09:41] <darkxst> (for plugin location)
[09:42] <ricotz> ah ok, a multiarch mix up
[09:44] <ricotz> darkxst, did you make cyphermox aware of that?
[09:44] <ricotz> since this is needed in saucy too then
[09:44] <darkxst> no I havent
[09:52] <ricotz> darkxst, backporting the corresponding 0.9.8 versions of "network-manager-openvpn, network-manager-openconnect, network-manager-vpnc, network-manager-pptp" is useful anyway too
[10:00] <darkxst> that won't help too much, unless the patches for 985788 have been dropped
[10:00] <ricotz> darkxst, did you confirm that this problem appears again in saucy?
[10:00] <darkxst> it will with g-c-c 3.8, havent checked 3.6
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[10:13] <ricotz> darkxst, i've restored it
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[17:44] <jbicha> ricotz: mozjs17 is still waiting in the new queue and I'll be uploading gnome-shell 3.8 to saucy later today
[17:45] <ricotz> jbicha, oh, nice, please make sure to use the debian package layout for mutter
[17:45] <jbicha> I'm not sure that it's worth trying to keep the GNOME3 PPAs having a newer version of gjs and gnome-shell just for mozjs17
[17:45] <ricotz> e.g. libmutter0b
[17:45] <jbicha> yes I'm doing that
[17:46] <ricotz> good
[17:46] <ricotz> how do mean newer versions?
[17:46] <jbicha> I think you'll want to have a newer version of gjs than 1.36.1-1 in your PPA then for mozjs17
[17:46] <jbicha> gnome-shell 3.8 and gjs in saucy can't depend on mozjs17 yet
[17:47] <ricotz> ah ok
[17:47] <jbicha> some people are trying to run Saucy + the GNOME3 PPAs for Raring but it will break if anyone uploads a newer version to saucy anyway
[17:48] <ricotz> my ppa is already at 1.37 and i will keep an eye on things breaking
[17:48] <jbicha> oh never mind, I didn't see gjs when I looked there earlier
[17:48] <ricotz> jbicha, thanks for the heads up
[17:49] <ricotz> and the raring gjs package in gnome3 should overrule it too
[17:49] <ricotz> gjs - 1.36.1+js17-0ubuntu1~raring0
[17:50] <ricotz> jbicha, btw cogl can be synced
[17:50] <jbicha> ricotz: unfortunately not by me as cogl isn't in the desktop set these days
[17:50] <ricotz> but it might create trouble for arm if somethings links against the gles2 library
[17:51] <ricotz> ok
[17:52] <ricotz> darkxst, do you know if there is going to be a mozjs 17.0.6 release?
[17:52] <ricotz> darkxst, i checked and there are some changes, not sure if they are relevant though
[17:52] <jbicha> hmm I guess I'll need to upload a newer gnome-shell version than saucy after all
[17:54] <ricotz> jbicha, this might be something which should go into raring https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3/+sourcepub/3234428/+listing-archive-extra
[17:57] <jbicha> ricotz: you're welcome to try for an SRU
[23:14] <asdf__> halo
[23:33] <asdf__> so how's this work..is there a forum or somthn for troubleshooting question?
[23:36] <tommie-lie> you can probably get some support from the general forums at ubuntuforums.org
[23:37] <tommie-lie> other than that: ask and see if someone answers, idle around in IRC, don't expect someone with the right answer within the next few minutes
[23:50] <asdf__> i just install ubuntu gnome, after migrate to debian since unity is official in ubuntu. first impresion is, why the icons in "show application" are freakishly big?
[23:51] <asdf__> is it by design or will it be fix? or is it because i use small monitor?
[23:53] <tommie-lie> what do you mean by freakishly big? I would estimate them to be roughly 64x64 pixels, this is normal