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* infinity giggles at motif finally being free, loooong after it's completely irellevant.09:59
ogra_yay ... finally10:00
ogra_http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/10:00
ogra_and it even works !!!10:00
infinityogra_: \o/10:01
ogra_and indded it was a super silly error10:01
infinityIf only I had a phone that it works on.10:02
StevenKinfinity: Oh, Motif has finally been released under a free license?10:02
infinityStevenK: Yeah.10:02
ogra_(missing the source path in the copy_10:02
ogra_)10:02
infinityStevenK: In a big, yawning, "who cares anymore anyway" moment.10:02
ogra_infinity, make a port !10:02
cjwatsonogra_: oh, hooray, well done10:03
StevenKinfinity: But even five years ago would have had the same reaction. :-)10:03
infinityogra_: Yeah.  If I do, it would be on a 2.6.32ish ginggerbread kernel, cause all attempts so far to make this phone work with a more modern kernel have led to vicious arguments with the RIL.10:03
infinityogra_: If our bits all work flawlessly with GB kernels and drivers, I might play at that.10:03
ogra_infinity, hmm, not sure, depends if your kernel can have all the lxc options we want i guess10:04
cjwatsonStevenK: http://motif.ics.com/article/news10:05
ogra_usually its only a matter of adjusting the config ... but the oldest kernel i have used yet is a 3.0 one10:05
infinityogra_: Oh.  Yeah.  lxc in 2.6.32 could be somewhat anaemic.10:06
ogra_you could indeed go with raring .... that doesnt use lxc10:06
ogra_but will stop getting upgraded indeed10:06
infinityogra_: Well, I could test and play with a 3.4 JB kernel, I just wouldn't be able to make phone calls or (entertainingly) check my battery level.10:07
infinityogra_: Given that this is my primary phone, that would be a non-starter, but if I get a new phone, I might try the above on the old one.10:07
infinity(Right now, this phone is running a JB userspace on a GB kernel, it's a mess)10:07
ogra_yeah, i did the same with my galayx S210:07
cjwatsonAfter "GB" I tried to read "JB" as a size unit.10:07
cjwatsonJiggabytes.10:08
ogra_but never managed to get rild to work10:08
infinityJigglyBytes!10:08
cjwatsonExcept if it were jiggabytes then the only permissible number in front of it would be 1.21.10:09
StevenKBut only in 1955?10:09
cjwatsonI fear any mobile phone would not be desperately useful in 1955.10:10
infinityAll you need is one tower and a few phones, and you get to be the coolest kids on the block.10:11
infinityAnd for a few blocks in any direction.10:11
infinityUntil you walk in an elevator.10:11
infinityI used to joke that Nokia had wasted far too much money on their clean-room-in-the-basement faraday cage setup with their private cell that couldn't bleed to the outside world (which was, to be fair, a wildly cool setup).10:12
infinityCause they could have just done all their testing in elevators.10:13
infinityThe mobile phone's natural enemy.10:13
StevenKinfinity: Except for the iPhone 4, whose natural enemy was a hand holding it.10:13
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ogra_can someone let that in please11:06
ogra_^^^^11:06
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ogra_cjwatson, infinity ... would one of you mind to let lxc-android-config out of NEW so i can seed it12:43
* ogra_ would like to finish the container flip ... thats the last remaining bit12:44
cjwatsonogra_: Done; you'll probably want to do the MIR thing as well13:14
seb128ogra_, you need to start using the current copyright format btw :p13:15
ogra_seb128, the machine readable thingie ?13:15
seb128yeah13:15
ogra_k13:15
seb128ogra_, http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/copyright-format/1.0/13:15
ogra_yep, got it open from last time13:16
ogra_i just forgot to do it with all my cdimage wrangling13:16
seb128ogra_, also, detail, but why not using compat 9 for a new source?13:16
ogra_seb128, lazy copy paste, will update that as well13:16
ogra_(i need to update my debian/ skeleton that i use)13:16
ogra_yay, thanks13:20
cjwatsonGHC 7.6.3 and the associated Haskell package upgrade/rebuild should land after the next publisher run.  I may put run-proposed-migration on manual, though, in order to try to ensure that all the copies fit into one publisher.13:32
cjwatsonOtherwise it does work eventually but all gets a bit confusing.13:33
Laneyexcellent13:36
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bdmurrayslangasek: could you review my apport SRU uploads today?  They change the crash signature calculation for apport-package bugs16:19
slangasekbdmurray: yep, will do16:33
infinitycjwatson: Hrm.  Curious.  You got ghc to transition alright, but the tracker still claims 3 broken packages?17:02
infinityThey must have been NEW.17:03
infinityHrm, no, the agda stuff wasn't...17:04
Laneyagda wasn't available on armhf before17:05
cjwatsonRight.  There's an arch all package there.17:06
cjwatsonUsual problem with those.17:06
cjwatsonAnd haskell-gloss is new.17:06
infinityAhh, check.  Didn't notice the arch:all thing.17:07
infinityI really should sleep some time today, instead of trying to be useful.17:07
cjwatsonThe run that moved ghc to release was a pretty impressively enormous publisher run.  11 seconds under an hour.17:09
cjwatsonStarting with nearly 20 minutes of "yup, I've got all those on disk already".17:10
infinityYeah, that process is wildly efficient.17:10
cjwatsonAnd then around 10 minutes of domination.17:11
infinityI wonder if we could improve the publisher by lolcatting the log.17:11
infinityThat first bit would consist of "I haz?  I haz!"17:11
infinityThe second bit would be a lot of "DO NOT WANT".17:11
cjwatsonActually, I'm looking at the wrong run.  3331s, so more like 56 minutes.17:12
xnoxwhen shall we start the apache2.4 transition?17:25
xnoxdebian started it and we are getting depwait things through slowly.17:25
xnoxor shall we wait for them to finish it?17:26
infinityxnox: Shouldn't hurt for us to start it now.  I suspect I have a merge or two to do to kick that off.17:43
cjwatsonxnox: Hm, I don't see it on http://release.debian.org/transitions/18:01
cjwatsonxnox: But anyway, it'd be nice to get libgd2 and net-snmp through first (they're intertangled; libgd2 still needs some help; I don't know if apache2.4 would overlap with either of them but it seems plausible), but after that I wouldn't mind18:02
cjwatsonxnox: http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2013/05/msg00078.html is not desperately encouraging ...18:03
cjwatsonAh, yes, apache2 and libgd2 are linked via php518:03
infinityI was just about to say that.18:04
cjwatsonIt might be helpful to have demotion to -proposed working properly, from the sound of that Apache transition mail.  I'll see if I can get that LP patch done ...18:06
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