[12:19] <thafreak> Ok, so I have a freenas box exporting a zfs managed chunk of disk space to a VM host running lxc containers
[12:19] <thafreak> lxc likes btrfs for making instant clones of containers using it's COW features
[12:21] <thafreak> I'm wondering if it would suck having btrfs on an iscis volume which is just a a virtual volume on a zfs share...
[12:21] <thafreak> :/
[13:00] <dzho> ALL THE BUZZINITIALISMS
[13:00] <dzho> I haven't gotten my head around lxc quite yet
[13:00] <paultag> try lxc-docker
[13:00] <dzho> xen has sorted of ruined me, in terms of expectations of how things work.
[13:00] <paultag> docker is nice.
[13:00] <paultag> real nice.
[13:00] <dzho> paultag: I'll bear that in mind.
[13:01]  * dzho tends to be very leery of automation
[13:01] <dzho> maybe in lxc's case I should automate up some stuff just to get it running so I can have some experience on which to base my expectations.
[13:02] <dzho> but usually I get a litle anxious the more moving parts there are.
[13:02] <dzho> version skew and all that, you know.
[13:51] <jrgifford> paultag: i haven't tried docker
[13:52] <jrgifford> i <3 the idea, just haven't gotten the chance to try it.
[13:52] <paultag> jrgifford: it's brokay
[13:52] <jrgifford> (and I <3 lxc)
[13:52] <paultag> saw it when they announced it at PyCon
[13:52] <paultag> been helping them get it ready for Debian
[13:52] <paultag> but it's got some … interesting … decisions
[13:52] <jrgifford> you know what, they don't support fedora, which is my only 64 bit os install. guess it will be a few more weeks. :(
[13:53] <paultag> you can comment out the arch check
[13:53] <paultag> it works fine on 32 bit
[13:53] <jrgifford> oh, ok. i thought they were actually picky.
[13:53] <paultag> nah
[13:53] <paultag> they just didn't want to deal with arches
[13:53] <jrgifford> good to know.
[13:53] <paultag> I did it on my VPS, workedish
[13:53] <paultag> ish because I didn't fix my kernel
[13:55] <jrgifford> ah, ok
[14:30] <thafreak> does docker have support for long running/permanent containers?
[14:31] <thafreak> like auto start on host reboot kind of stuff?
[14:31] <paultag> I believe so, yes
[14:31] <paultag> it saves them in a shim directory
[14:31] <thafreak> i haven't gotten too far into actually using lxc for anything yet
[14:31] <jrgifford> lxc is great.
[14:31] <thafreak> i just built a new low power vm host and moved some older kvm's over to it
[14:32] <thafreak> i've used lxc-create a few times and played around, but that's about it...
[14:32] <thafreak> haven't deployed a server for actual use yet
[14:32] <jrgifford> i'm going to need to figure out how to replicate ubuntu's lxc conf on fedora or straight debian, because i need it for a presentation in less than a week.
[14:32] <jrgifford> yay live demos of stuff!
[14:32] <thafreak> the install fest in cleveland?
[14:33] <jrgifford> no, but i do need to finish setting up the PXE server for that.
[14:33] <jrgifford> that'll be my tuesday morning task. :P
[14:33] <thafreak> lol...
[14:33] <jrgifford> no sense in actually *preparing* for it
[14:33] <jrgifford> are you coming?
[14:33] <thafreak> probably not...cleveland is a bit of a haul from where I work...
[14:34] <jrgifford> fair enough.
[14:34] <thafreak> unless I work from home...
[14:34] <jrgifford> think of it this way, we can get a picture for skellat, because he needs to have a picture for our renewal next year.
[14:34] <thafreak> but things are hectic at home now...lots of projects, not sure the wife would approve
[14:35] <jrgifford> heh, fair enough.
[14:35] <skellat> jrgifford: We don't need no stinkin' pictures
[14:35] <thafreak> what day/time is it though?
[14:35] <skellat> jrgifford: There isn't an approval/reapproval process anymore
[14:35] <jrgifford> skellat: oh? :(
[14:36] <jrgifford> thafreak: tuesday, at ~6pm
[14:36] <jrgifford> i'll be there all day though, and then i'll be ready to help people if they feel the need to come early.
[14:36] <skellat> jrgifford: Yeah.  There will be "verified" LoCo teams.  I'm still waiting on the official LoCo Council announcement as to what those hoops entail but they're supposed to be far, far less.
[14:36] <jrgifford> skellat: nice
[14:37] <jrgifford> details - http://www.meetup.com/Cleveland-LUG/events/117050322/
[14:37] <skellat> Namely that we exist, there has been some e-mail/IRC/whatever activity, there is some sort of leadership, and some sort of territorial boundaries
[14:37] <skellat> In-person meetings would be nice but LoCo Council isn't even counting on that right now
[14:37] <jrgifford> i see.
[14:38] <skellat> Especially since we're now one of the loudest LoCo since I seem to talk about us a lot on planet.u.c and at vUDS
[14:38] <jrgifford> heh. i need to start blarghing again.
[14:38] <skellat> Relatively speaking, of course
[14:38] <jrgifford> i lost motivation after i stopped paying for hosting.
[14:38] <jrgifford> when i was paying for the ability to blog, i blogged more.
[14:39] <jrgifford> then i went to this free thing, which works fine, and i don't blog as much on planet.u.c
[14:39] <skellat> Just make a commitment to blog once a week with a feedback loop built in for accountability
[14:41] <skellat> OF COURSE, pictures added by people on their own initiative to the LoCo's wiki pages are **not** discouraged by any means mind you
[14:43]  * skellat wanders back to reading the economics news at Zerohedge.com and the "help wanted" ads