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not_foundwake-up ZA ... it is time to get up now05:06
magespawnHey all06:20
plustwohi all06:23
Maazplustwo: By the way, inetpro on freenode told me "tell plustwo you should try quassel on lubuntu" 10 hours, 50 minutes and 44 seconds ago06:23
Kilosmorning magespawn and others06:23
plustwoMaaz: thank you06:23
Maazplustwo: Sure06:23
Kiloshi plustwo 06:23
plustwomorning Kilos06:24
mazalMorning everyone06:26
Kiloshi mazal 06:27
Kiloskoud ne06:27
plustwomazal: o/06:28
Kiloshi not_found 06:51
not_founduncle Kilos :) how has winter been?06:52
Kilosstill getting worse slowly not_found  we aint neen under 4c yet06:54
not_foundbrrrrr06:54
Kilos4°c06:56
Kilosthats better. forgot the capslock was the compose key06:56
not_foundstill brrrrrrr07:02
Kiloslol yeah winter really sucks07:07
not_foundnot here... if it was winter here the whole year everyone would want to live here :p07:09
Kilosyeah like in the tropics07:14
not_foundbut even the tropics aren't that great all year round... I hate high humidity :/07:19
Kilosaw 07:19
Kilosi prefered durbans humidity to the transvaals dryness07:19
Kilosimo the only bad thing in the tropics are the mosquitoes07:20
not_foundI never minded humidity until a summer here >.<07:21
Kilosdoes it get humid there?07:21
magespawnHey any body want a working 28.8 external modem?07:22
not_foundvery very VERY humid... at night it looks like fog, but it isn't, it's just the humidity :'(07:22
not_foundmagespawn:garage sale? :p07:22
magespawnAnybody want a working 28.8 modem?07:23
Kiloshehe everytime i top up with telkom i get 2g wireless free but nowhere to use it07:24
Kilosadsl magespawn ?07:24
not_foundnope that is dial up07:25
magespawnsorry for the double. the quassel is not updating on the phone07:25
not_foundslowest modem I had was a 36.6 :p07:25
not_foundand even 56k is actually ridiculously slow07:26
not_found*shudder*07:26
Kilosisnt it still faster than can be supplied here by the isp07:26
magespawnstill have people out here using those07:26
not_foundI remember with a 56k modem using mweb we would get excited if the download speed peaked more than 1kbps for a couple of seconds :p07:26
Kilos1 kb/s?07:27
Kilosthats worse than gprs07:27
magespawnKilos: you measure the page load speed with an hour glass07:28
Kiloslol07:28
not_foundmagespawn: I can't imagine trying to use the modern web with that07:29
not_foundyes uncle Kilos... gprs way faster07:29
mazalBig downloads needed a calender to measure :-)07:29
Kilosarent they upgradeable by changing chips or so07:29
not_foundnope07:29
mazalI would throw it into download manager and work out which day of the week it should be complete hehehe07:29
Kiloswhat in it chooses the speed07:30
not_foundthere was some modems with some compression technicques but even a 100% improvement means 2kbps07:30
Kilosthats sounds real, bad07:30
mazalOns was met min teverede07:30
Kilossjoe07:30
not_foundyup, it was awesome still07:30
not_foundthe good old days :p07:31
magespawnand only in 1993/4 this was the cutting edge of connectivity in SA07:31
Kilosmagespawn, use it as a paper weight07:31
mazalThings like irc and rss was much bigger those days as it used less data07:31
magespawnBBS07:31
not_foundand being connected to a phone call all that time meant telkom smiled all the way to the bank07:32
Kilosya07:32
not_foundusenet07:32
magespawnmy first months telkom bill on dial up was in the R1500 range07:32
not_foundthe dark underbelly of the net07:32
Kilosmweb isnt cheap if you add the costs of the telkom line too07:32
not_foundouch07:33
Kiloswow07:33
not_foundthat is why I basically went without internet until I came to the UAE07:33
Kiloshi Xethron 07:33
Kilosi thought gprs was bad07:33
mazalmweb has been the most expensive from the start07:34
magespawnnow i pay R600 f07:34
Kiloseven got to peak at 10 kB/s07:34
mazalAnd I remember they had modems that only their modem could connect to an mweb account07:34
Kiloshi charl_ 07:34
magespawnhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system07:34
Kiloswhew so i missed the worser times07:35
Kilosthank heavens07:35
not_foundwebsites back in the day was not like now... pictures was a luxury...07:35
charl_good morning07:35
charl_hi Kilos 07:35
charl_hi not_found 07:35
not_foundalo charl_07:36
Kilosmazal, say hi to barry for me i missed him yesterday with no power here07:37
charl_Maaz: coffee on07:37
* Maaz puts the kettle on07:37
charl_went to deventer yesterday, had a great day and took a bunch of pictures http://imgur.com/a/n6Ocf/all07:37
magespawnwhen i first got a modem Telkom told me they did not support that service without a special application07:37
charl_only got back after 11 and am exhausted now, didn't get enough sleep07:38
mazalOom Kilos he says he will peek in later07:38
Kiloscool07:39
magespawnlooks very cool charl_, i love old buildings and churchs in particular07:39
charl_yeah deventer is an old city http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deventer07:40
charl_used to be a fisherman's city where they used to catch fish in the north sea07:40
charl_in particular stockfish http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockfish07:40
MaazCoffee's ready for charl_!07:41
magespawndo they still do that?07:41
charl_not sure but i think trawling is done by large companies now07:42
charl_Maaz: thanks07:42
Maazcharl_: Okay :-)07:42
Kiloshi barrydk 07:44
charl_hi barrydk 07:44
Symmetriayay07:45
SymmetriaI just booked a holiday07:45
Symmetria;p07:45
Symmetriafirst true holiday I taken in years07:45
charl_Symmetria: where are you going to?07:45
Symmetriathe cayman islands ;p 07:45
barrydkGood morning every one and welcome07:46
charl_googling...07:46
SymmetriaI needed to sort out some banking shit over there anyway 07:46
charl_ah in the carribean07:46
Symmetriayeah07:46
Symmetria<307:46
charl_banking in the cayman islands07:46
charl_i will not ask anything further :)07:46
magespawngood place to keep forex07:47
charl_ooh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cayman_Islands#Taxation07:47
charl_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cayman_Islands#Financial_Services_Industry07:47
Symmetriaheh the cayman islands is a very good place to store money07:48
charl_apparently yeah07:49
magespawnhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u8KkvZvVVI&feature=youtube_gdata_player 07:49
magespawnamazing what people can do now07:49
charl_wow great07:50
charl_magespawn: did you see my photos of maastricht the other day? http://imgur.com/a/oIIcm08:18
charl_that's also a very old city08:18
Kiloshi Squirm 08:23
charl_hi Squirm 08:23
charl_hi psyatw 08:24
Kiloshi psyatw 08:24
psyatwhi charl08:25
psyatwhi Kilos08:25
psyatwcharl_*08:25
Symmetriahahahah oh man,  you gotta love alcatel08:28
Symmetriathey released a new version of their router code08:28
Symmetriaand it had a bug in it08:28
Symmetria;p it makes the router stop recognizing half the ram in the box08:28
Symmetriathats... quite a bug :)08:28
Kiloshi Vince-0 08:31
Vince-0Hi Kilos!08:33
not_foundwho here has heard of discourse?08:36
Vince-0rational discourse?08:44
Symmetrialol, someone on efnet challenged me to an ascii war 08:44
not_foundVince-0: nope... it is a new forum platform08:44
Symmetriahaha wooops, I dumped so much ascii at him one of the efnet servers split 08:44
Symmetriahaha 450meg ascii flood 08:45
* Symmetria is amused08:45
not_foundouch, they should have kicked you :p08:45
Symmetrianot_found lol, only reason I can do that is because Im an admin08:45
not_foundoh haha, makes sense08:45
Symmetriausers cant flood war between each other, servers wont let em08:45
Symmetriaits the admins that flood war between them for fun and games08:45
Symmetria;p08:45
not_foundah ok...08:45
Symmetriaand if users are stupid they join the flood war channels to see whats going on08:46
Symmetriaand find themselves insta disconnected 08:46
not_foundI never got to do that kind of thing because of the strict rules etc :p08:46
Symmetrialol, the efnet admins are running like 1.5gig sendqs and the clients are on the servers themselves with huge bandwidth08:46
Symmetrianot_found lol, on which network?08:46
not_foundany...08:46
not_foundthen again I am not a big IRC user...08:46
Symmetrianot_found lol, even on efnet, the opers arent allowed to do it 08:46
Symmetriathe admins, well, rules dont apply to us08:46
Symmetria;p08:46
not_foundtrue :p08:47
Symmetriaefnet rules are pretty simple, users cant do X Y and Z08:47
Symmetriaopers its slightly more lax08:47
Symmetriaadmins, well, the only rules admins have is that they cant evade bans and cant op themselves etc in user channels08:47
not_foundI remember a time when posting more than two lines too quickly could get you kicked on some busier channels08:47
not_foundhad to tread softly and not annoy someone with ops08:48
Symmetrianot_found ahha there is another trick I use on efnet 08:48
SymmetriaI /topic my text08:48
not_foundthat could become a big topic...08:48
Symmetriaheh, servers all configured to limit text traffic in channels and msg08:48
not_foundis there a limit to topic size?08:48
Symmetriabut /topic has no limits08:48
not_foundlol08:48
Symmetrianah, its not one topic08:48
Symmetriayou set 100k topics in like 5 seconds08:49
Symmetriainsta death to everyone ;p08:49
not_foundand the server :p08:49
Symmetrialol nah most servers handle it just fine 08:49
SymmetriaI just pushed that one a little 2 far08:49
Symmetria;p08:49
not_found:)08:49
SymmetriaI tried to set 100k topics x 12 clients at the same time08:49
Symmetriafor 1.2 million topics 08:49
Symmetria  129500 killflood.txt08:50
Symmetria;p08:50
charl_finally got around to uploading my amsterdam pictures http://imgur.com/a/mlASt/all09:25
charl_got some nice ones09:25
charl_here's one of the dutch pirate party http://i.imgur.com/bntkeLz.jpg09:27
not_founda lone flag09:29
charl_?09:29
charl_you were expecting 10?09:29
magespawnyes charl_ i did see the other photos too09:29
charl_cool09:30
charl_been doing a lot of traveling the last week wow09:30
charl_three cities in 8 days09:30
magespawnthe benefit of living in europe09:32
magespawnSymmetria: that reminds me of the zip bomb09:32
charl_that's true, in america you have to travel ridiculously long distances from one place to the next09:33
charl_it's an overpopulation problem but also a benefit in some ways09:34
charl_also means owning land is expensive though09:34
magespawnin sa youhave to travel a fair way before getting somewhere09:38
not_foundoh dear... we are struggling against the netherlands in cricket... I wonder if the team went to some of the cafe's last night and again this morning before the game started >.>09:38
magespawnis it the full stength team?09:38
not_foundwon't say it is 100% but we are batting and it is top batsman that have fallen...09:39
not_foundhttp://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/602761.html09:39
charl_hold on a second, the netherlands plays cricket?09:40
charl_i live in the netherlands and i did not know that09:40
not_foundno, they are actually playing hockey and that is why our cricket team is loosing :p09:41
charl_being beaten by the netherlands in cricket... that is pretty embarrasing09:41
charl_if you were beaten by england at least you could have said you went up against a formiddable opponent :P09:42
not_foundwell not beaten yet :p09:42
not_foundlol09:42
not_foundI wonder when england was considered formidable last...?!09:42
charl_not sure but they invented cricket09:42
not_foundand rugby...09:43
charl_we don't play cricket or rugby in europe much09:43
charl_*continental europe09:43
charl_not that england is considered to be part of europe in any case :P09:43
not_foundbetter not to play a sport you suck at I guess09:44
not_foundor if you do keep it quiet09:44
charl_it's sport... noone lives or dies from it09:44
charl_it's (supposed to be) just for the lols09:45
not_foundlots of people live from it actually... that and drive fast cars because of it...09:45
not_foundand if you play football in south america you better not make to many mistakes you might get shot09:45
charl_i meant live as in not die :P but yes09:46
charl_making a living from sport is possible09:46
charl_but it's entertainment basically09:46
Kilosentertainment for the spectators but serious business for the players09:49
Kilosbig money involved09:49
magespawnit never pays to underestimate anybody09:49
magespawnIPL is big cash to the players09:50
charl_yeah if i listen to what type of money some football players make in europe it's ridiculous09:50
charl_millions of euros some of them get paid09:50
charl_it's sickening09:50
charl_although, if you are fortunate to be in that position, "why not"09:50
Symmetriaheh, there is *huge* money in football 10:00
Symmetrialook at what the managers earn even10:00
SymmetriaJose Mourinho just signed a 4 year deal with Chelsea for 40 MILLION POUNDS!!!!10:01
SymmetriaSteve Gerrard earns 225 thousand pounds *a week*10:01
Symmetriabastard earns in a week what I earn in a year :( 10:01
not_foundthat in a year is a good salary !!10:02
magespawnlets not go there10:02
not_foundlol10:02
magespawnthat is 5000 pounds an hour assuming 45 hour week10:05
Kiloshehe10:05
magespawnso he earns more per hour than i do in a year10:05
Kilosbig bucks in sport10:06
Kilosbut to be at the top is murder too10:06
Kilosmany hours of blood sweat and tears10:06
Squirm[M]Meh10:07
Squirm[M]I can't remember what team I'm on in ingress10:07
Kiloslol10:07
not_foundnobody said it was easy... but still what they do and get paid doesn't scale well with other salaries :p10:07
Squirm[M]There is a portal right next to where I'm staying10:07
not_foundSquirm: lol10:07
Squirm[M]I've never seen a portal10:08
Kilosnot really not_found 10:10
Kilosalmost every geeks can get a job but check how many sportsmen actually manage to make the pro league10:11
not_foundok uncle Kilos, so you make the pro-league... thus you should get paid per our what a lot of qualified hardworking people earn per month >.>10:12
Kiloslol10:12
Kilosits like lawyers10:12
Kilosthey dont earn what they charge10:12
not_found:)10:13
not_foundcricket :p - punched, worked, cut, whipped, driven etc...10:14
Kiloslol10:15
Kiloseverything has its own language10:15
not_foundthat is just the commentary on two overs10:15
Kilosoh my Squirm wassup10:15
Kilosyou even andchat now10:16
not_foundMaaz: why you leave?!11:14
Maaznot_found: Huh?11:14
not_foundMaaz: you stupid?11:15
Maaznot_found: *blink*11:15
not_found:(11:15
not_foundMaaz: I love you11:15
Maaznot_found Don't embarrass youself. You aren't a cyber chick11:15
not_foundtrue11:15
Kiloshehe11:16
Kiloscheeky bot11:16
not_found:)11:16
Kiloshi Julius129 11:39
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 11:40
not_foundtwo SA batsman have now hit about 8 sixes in 3 overs with a few other boundaries for good measure11:48
not_foundlast 5 overs run rate: 1611:50
ThatGraemeGuy'ello11:50
not_found*h11:51
not_foundlast 5 overs of the innings SA run rate: 19.612:02
Kiloswhew12:02
not_foundin mooi afrikaans sou 'n mens sê hulle het die bal hard gemoer...12:04
Kiloslol12:04
not_foundthen again I don't know any mooi afrikaans :p12:04
magespawnhttps://training.linuxfoundation.org/free-linux-training/linux-tutorials-and-videos/how-to-build-a-firewall-in-linux12:05
magespawncool stuff12:06
magespawnbbl fish pick up time12:12
Kilosk12:12
Guest7898hi13:09
superflynuvolari, kbmonkey: are you guys ready for Sunday?13:52
georgelappieshi Kilos13:53
Kiloshi superfly georgelappies 13:53
superflyhi Kilos13:53
Kilosnuvolari, been very quiet superfly 13:53
Kilosand the monkey its better to mail13:54
Kilosmaybe Vince-0 can rev them in some way13:54
superflywill try to sms nuvolari13:55
Kilosthat might be the best13:56
Kiloshes been ill i hear13:56
Vince-0heey13:57
Kilosthere you are Vince-0 the fly will be there sdunday13:58
Kilossunday too13:58
Vince-0yaar14:04
Vince-0I actually saw nuvolari briefly last night14:04
Vince-0online that is14:04
Kiloshere?14:04
Vince-0on the hangout14:05
Kilosoh in the g+ hangout14:05
Vince-0ya he didn't stick around for long - think he's behind with work 'cos of illness14:06
Vince-0I'll message 14:07
Kilosty14:07
Vince-0kbmonkey, and nuvolari and see where we meet14:07
magespawnback14:13
magespawnhey all14:13
Kiloswb magespawn 14:14
Kilosthe fly gonna be in tekwini sunday14:15
magespawncool beans14:15
Kilosnow just to see them lug okes look after him14:15
magespawni ams ure it will be fine14:16
magespawnam sure14:16
Kilostry find him some queen pines so long14:17
Kiloshehe14:17
magespawnnah want them to be nice and fresh14:18
Kilosi think they only get the tiny ones in the cape14:18
magespawnwe have three types here, small round very sweet one are the best14:21
Kilosya the queens are for canning i think14:22
Kilosthey those massive ones14:23
Kilosthey still lekker to eat though14:23
magespawnsummer pineapples are the best14:24
Kilosits always summer there14:27
magespawnwell i suppose that is true14:40
charl_ok had some fun playing with apache jena today http://jena.apache.org/14:50
charl_have been looking forward to it for a while14:50
charl_also had a go generating java classes from an XSD using JAXB14:51
charl_now it's time for me to go home however14:51
charl_ciao all, have a good weekend!14:51
magespawnlater all home time15:28
Kilosgo safe magespawn 15:28
Kilosgeorgelappies, arent you new to ubuntu?17:50
Kiloshmm... we being swamped by the quassel users here17:51
georgelappiesKilos: no been using it for years. Started using Linux back in 1998 :)17:54
Kiloswhew i get mixed up17:54
Kilosnot many new okes go kde to start with17:54
Kilostook me years to try it out17:54
georgelappieslol, no prob18:02
georgelappiesKDE is the best atm in my opinion. Kubuntu 13.04 rocks :D18:03
nlsthzn*yawn*18:25
Kiloslol go sleep nlsthzn 18:33
Kilosubuntu is getting too good, we dont get enough noobs anymore18:33
Kilosnight all. sleep tight18:35
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trandermorning21:42
trander38 sleepers ?21:42
Cantidehi21:43
tranderyo21:44
tranderup working late ?21:44
Cantidenah21:48
Cantideno work tomorrow21:48
Cantideso just busy playing around on my PC21:48
Cantidehi Squirm[M] 'o'21:48
Squirm[M]Hi Cantide 21:51

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