[05:06] wake-up ZA ... it is time to get up now [06:20] Hey all [06:23] hi all [06:23] plustwo: By the way, inetpro on freenode told me "tell plustwo you should try quassel on lubuntu" 10 hours, 50 minutes and 44 seconds ago [06:23] morning magespawn and others [06:23] Maaz: thank you [06:23] plustwo: Sure [06:23] hi plustwo [06:24] morning Kilos [06:26] Morning everyone [06:27] hi mazal [06:27] koud ne [06:28] mazal: o/ [06:51] hi not_found [06:52] uncle Kilos :) how has winter been? [06:54] still getting worse slowly not_found we aint neen under 4c yet [06:54] brrrrr [06:56] 4°c [06:56] thats better. forgot the capslock was the compose key [07:02] still brrrrrrr [07:07] lol yeah winter really sucks [07:09] not here... if it was winter here the whole year everyone would want to live here :p [07:14] yeah like in the tropics [07:19] but even the tropics aren't that great all year round... I hate high humidity :/ [07:19] aw [07:19] i prefered durbans humidity to the transvaals dryness [07:20] imo the only bad thing in the tropics are the mosquitoes [07:21] I never minded humidity until a summer here >.< [07:21] does it get humid there? [07:22] Hey any body want a working 28.8 external modem? [07:22] very very VERY humid... at night it looks like fog, but it isn't, it's just the humidity :'( [07:22] magespawn:garage sale? :p [07:23] Anybody want a working 28.8 modem? [07:24] hehe everytime i top up with telkom i get 2g wireless free but nowhere to use it [07:24] adsl magespawn ? [07:25] nope that is dial up [07:25] sorry for the double. the quassel is not updating on the phone [07:25] slowest modem I had was a 36.6 :p [07:26] and even 56k is actually ridiculously slow [07:26] *shudder* [07:26] isnt it still faster than can be supplied here by the isp [07:26] still have people out here using those [07:26] I remember with a 56k modem using mweb we would get excited if the download speed peaked more than 1kbps for a couple of seconds :p [07:27] 1 kb/s? [07:27] thats worse than gprs [07:28] Kilos: you measure the page load speed with an hour glass [07:28] lol [07:29] magespawn: I can't imagine trying to use the modern web with that [07:29] yes uncle Kilos... gprs way faster [07:29] Big downloads needed a calender to measure :-) [07:29] arent they upgradeable by changing chips or so [07:29] nope [07:29] I would throw it into download manager and work out which day of the week it should be complete hehehe [07:30] what in it chooses the speed [07:30] there was some modems with some compression technicques but even a 100% improvement means 2kbps [07:30] thats sounds real, bad [07:30] Ons was met min teverede [07:30] sjoe [07:30] yup, it was awesome still [07:31] the good old days :p [07:31] and only in 1993/4 this was the cutting edge of connectivity in SA [07:31] magespawn, use it as a paper weight [07:31] Things like irc and rss was much bigger those days as it used less data [07:31] BBS [07:32] and being connected to a phone call all that time meant telkom smiled all the way to the bank [07:32] ya [07:32] usenet [07:32] my first months telkom bill on dial up was in the R1500 range [07:32] the dark underbelly of the net [07:32] mweb isnt cheap if you add the costs of the telkom line too [07:33] ouch [07:33] wow [07:33] that is why I basically went without internet until I came to the UAE [07:33] hi Xethron [07:33] i thought gprs was bad [07:34] mweb has been the most expensive from the start [07:34] now i pay R600 f [07:34] even got to peak at 10 kB/s [07:34] And I remember they had modems that only their modem could connect to an mweb account [07:34] hi charl_ [07:34] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system [07:35] whew so i missed the worser times [07:35] thank heavens [07:35] websites back in the day was not like now... pictures was a luxury... [07:35] good morning [07:35] hi Kilos [07:35] hi not_found [07:36] alo charl_ [07:37] mazal, say hi to barry for me i missed him yesterday with no power here [07:37] Maaz: coffee on [07:37] * Maaz puts the kettle on [07:37] went to deventer yesterday, had a great day and took a bunch of pictures http://imgur.com/a/n6Ocf/all [07:37] when i first got a modem Telkom told me they did not support that service without a special application [07:38] only got back after 11 and am exhausted now, didn't get enough sleep [07:38] Oom Kilos he says he will peek in later [07:39] cool [07:39] looks very cool charl_, i love old buildings and churchs in particular [07:40] yeah deventer is an old city http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deventer [07:40] used to be a fisherman's city where they used to catch fish in the north sea [07:40] in particular stockfish http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockfish [07:41] Coffee's ready for charl_! [07:41] do they still do that? [07:42] not sure but i think trawling is done by large companies now [07:42] Maaz: thanks [07:42] charl_: Okay :-) [07:44] hi barrydk [07:44] hi barrydk [07:45] yay [07:45] I just booked a holiday [07:45] ;p [07:45] first true holiday I taken in years [07:45] Symmetria: where are you going to? [07:45] the cayman islands ;p [07:46] Good morning every one and welcome [07:46] googling... [07:46] I needed to sort out some banking shit over there anyway [07:46] ah in the carribean [07:46] yeah [07:46] <3 [07:46] banking in the cayman islands [07:46] i will not ask anything further :) [07:47] good place to keep forex [07:47] ooh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cayman_Islands#Taxation [07:47] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cayman_Islands#Financial_Services_Industry [07:48] heh the cayman islands is a very good place to store money [07:49] apparently yeah [07:49] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u8KkvZvVVI&feature=youtube_gdata_player [07:49] amazing what people can do now [07:50] wow great [08:18] magespawn: did you see my photos of maastricht the other day? http://imgur.com/a/oIIcm [08:18] that's also a very old city [08:23] hi Squirm [08:23] hi Squirm [08:24] hi psyatw [08:24] hi psyatw [08:25] hi charl [08:25] hi Kilos [08:25] charl_* [08:28] hahahah oh man, you gotta love alcatel [08:28] they released a new version of their router code [08:28] and it had a bug in it [08:28] ;p it makes the router stop recognizing half the ram in the box [08:28] thats... quite a bug :) [08:31] hi Vince-0 [08:33] Hi Kilos! [08:36] who here has heard of discourse? [08:44] rational discourse? [08:44] lol, someone on efnet challenged me to an ascii war [08:44] Vince-0: nope... it is a new forum platform [08:44] haha wooops, I dumped so much ascii at him one of the efnet servers split [08:45] haha 450meg ascii flood [08:45] * Symmetria is amused [08:45] ouch, they should have kicked you :p [08:45] not_found lol, only reason I can do that is because Im an admin [08:45] oh haha, makes sense [08:45] users cant flood war between each other, servers wont let em [08:45] its the admins that flood war between them for fun and games [08:45] ;p [08:45] ah ok... [08:46] and if users are stupid they join the flood war channels to see whats going on [08:46] and find themselves insta disconnected [08:46] I never got to do that kind of thing because of the strict rules etc :p [08:46] lol, the efnet admins are running like 1.5gig sendqs and the clients are on the servers themselves with huge bandwidth [08:46] not_found lol, on which network? [08:46] any... [08:46] then again I am not a big IRC user... [08:46] not_found lol, even on efnet, the opers arent allowed to do it [08:46] the admins, well, rules dont apply to us [08:46] ;p [08:47] true :p [08:47] efnet rules are pretty simple, users cant do X Y and Z [08:47] opers its slightly more lax [08:47] admins, well, the only rules admins have is that they cant evade bans and cant op themselves etc in user channels [08:47] I remember a time when posting more than two lines too quickly could get you kicked on some busier channels [08:48] had to tread softly and not annoy someone with ops [08:48] not_found ahha there is another trick I use on efnet [08:48] I /topic my text [08:48] that could become a big topic... [08:48] heh, servers all configured to limit text traffic in channels and msg [08:48] is there a limit to topic size? [08:48] but /topic has no limits [08:48] lol [08:48] nah, its not one topic [08:49] you set 100k topics in like 5 seconds [08:49] insta death to everyone ;p [08:49] and the server :p [08:49] lol nah most servers handle it just fine [08:49] I just pushed that one a little 2 far [08:49] ;p [08:49] :) [08:49] I tried to set 100k topics x 12 clients at the same time [08:49] for 1.2 million topics [08:50] 129500 killflood.txt [08:50] ;p [09:25] finally got around to uploading my amsterdam pictures http://imgur.com/a/mlASt/all [09:25] got some nice ones [09:27] here's one of the dutch pirate party http://i.imgur.com/bntkeLz.jpg [09:29] a lone flag [09:29] ? [09:29] you were expecting 10? [09:29] yes charl_ i did see the other photos too [09:30] cool [09:30] been doing a lot of traveling the last week wow [09:30] three cities in 8 days [09:32] the benefit of living in europe [09:32] Symmetria: that reminds me of the zip bomb [09:33] that's true, in america you have to travel ridiculously long distances from one place to the next [09:34] it's an overpopulation problem but also a benefit in some ways [09:34] also means owning land is expensive though [09:38] in sa youhave to travel a fair way before getting somewhere [09:38] oh dear... we are struggling against the netherlands in cricket... I wonder if the team went to some of the cafe's last night and again this morning before the game started >.> [09:38] is it the full stength team? [09:39] won't say it is 100% but we are batting and it is top batsman that have fallen... [09:39] http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/602761.html [09:40] hold on a second, the netherlands plays cricket? [09:40] i live in the netherlands and i did not know that [09:41] no, they are actually playing hockey and that is why our cricket team is loosing :p [09:41] being beaten by the netherlands in cricket... that is pretty embarrasing [09:42] if you were beaten by england at least you could have said you went up against a formiddable opponent :P [09:42] well not beaten yet :p [09:42] lol [09:42] I wonder when england was considered formidable last...?! [09:42] not sure but they invented cricket [09:43] and rugby... [09:43] we don't play cricket or rugby in europe much [09:43] *continental europe [09:43] not that england is considered to be part of europe in any case :P [09:44] better not to play a sport you suck at I guess [09:44] or if you do keep it quiet [09:44] it's sport... noone lives or dies from it [09:45] it's (supposed to be) just for the lols [09:45] lots of people live from it actually... that and drive fast cars because of it... [09:45] and if you play football in south america you better not make to many mistakes you might get shot [09:46] i meant live as in not die :P but yes [09:46] making a living from sport is possible [09:46] but it's entertainment basically [09:49] entertainment for the spectators but serious business for the players [09:49] big money involved [09:49] it never pays to underestimate anybody [09:50] IPL is big cash to the players [09:50] yeah if i listen to what type of money some football players make in europe it's ridiculous [09:50] millions of euros some of them get paid [09:50] it's sickening [09:50] although, if you are fortunate to be in that position, "why not" [10:00] heh, there is *huge* money in football [10:00] look at what the managers earn even [10:01] Jose Mourinho just signed a 4 year deal with Chelsea for 40 MILLION POUNDS!!!! [10:01] Steve Gerrard earns 225 thousand pounds *a week* [10:01] bastard earns in a week what I earn in a year :( [10:02] that in a year is a good salary !! [10:02] lets not go there [10:02] lol [10:05] that is 5000 pounds an hour assuming 45 hour week [10:05] hehe [10:05] so he earns more per hour than i do in a year [10:06] big bucks in sport [10:06] but to be at the top is murder too [10:06] many hours of blood sweat and tears [10:07] Meh [10:07] I can't remember what team I'm on in ingress [10:07] lol [10:07] nobody said it was easy... but still what they do and get paid doesn't scale well with other salaries :p [10:07] There is a portal right next to where I'm staying [10:07] Squirm: lol [10:08] I've never seen a portal [10:10] not really not_found [10:11] almost every geeks can get a job but check how many sportsmen actually manage to make the pro league [10:12] ok uncle Kilos, so you make the pro-league... thus you should get paid per our what a lot of qualified hardworking people earn per month >.> [10:12] lol [10:12] its like lawyers [10:12] they dont earn what they charge [10:13] :) [10:14] cricket :p - punched, worked, cut, whipped, driven etc... [10:15] lol [10:15] everything has its own language [10:15] that is just the commentary on two overs [10:15] oh my Squirm wassup [10:16] you even andchat now [11:14] Maaz: why you leave?! [11:14] not_found: Huh? [11:15] Maaz: you stupid? [11:15] not_found: *blink* [11:15] :( [11:15] Maaz: I love you [11:15] not_found Don't embarrass youself. You aren't a cyber chick [11:15] true [11:16] hehe [11:16] cheeky bot [11:16] :) [11:39] hi Julius129 [11:40] hi ThatGraemeGuy [11:48] two SA batsman have now hit about 8 sixes in 3 overs with a few other boundaries for good measure [11:50] last 5 overs run rate: 16 [11:50] 'ello [11:51] *h [12:02] last 5 overs of the innings SA run rate: 19.6 [12:02] whew [12:04] in mooi afrikaans sou 'n mens sê hulle het die bal hard gemoer... [12:04] lol [12:04] then again I don't know any mooi afrikaans :p [12:05] https://training.linuxfoundation.org/free-linux-training/linux-tutorials-and-videos/how-to-build-a-firewall-in-linux [12:06] cool stuff [12:12] bbl fish pick up time [12:12] k [13:09] hi [13:52] nuvolari, kbmonkey: are you guys ready for Sunday? [13:53] hi Kilos [13:53] hi superfly georgelappies [13:53] hi Kilos [13:53] nuvolari, been very quiet superfly [13:54] and the monkey its better to mail [13:54] maybe Vince-0 can rev them in some way [13:55] will try to sms nuvolari [13:56] that might be the best [13:56] hes been ill i hear [13:57] heey [13:58] there you are Vince-0 the fly will be there sdunday [13:58] sunday too [14:04] yaar [14:04] I actually saw nuvolari briefly last night [14:04] online that is [14:04] here? [14:05] on the hangout [14:05] oh in the g+ hangout [14:06] ya he didn't stick around for long - think he's behind with work 'cos of illness [14:07] I'll message [14:07] ty [14:07] kbmonkey, and nuvolari and see where we meet [14:13] back [14:13] hey all [14:14] wb magespawn [14:15] the fly gonna be in tekwini sunday [14:15] cool beans [14:15] now just to see them lug okes look after him [14:16] i ams ure it will be fine [14:16] am sure [14:17] try find him some queen pines so long [14:17] hehe [14:18] nah want them to be nice and fresh [14:18] i think they only get the tiny ones in the cape [14:21] we have three types here, small round very sweet one are the best [14:22] ya the queens are for canning i think [14:23] they those massive ones [14:23] they still lekker to eat though [14:24] summer pineapples are the best [14:27] its always summer there [14:40] well i suppose that is true [14:50] ok had some fun playing with apache jena today http://jena.apache.org/ [14:50] have been looking forward to it for a while [14:51] also had a go generating java classes from an XSD using JAXB [14:51] now it's time for me to go home however [14:51] ciao all, have a good weekend! [15:28] later all home time [15:28] go safe magespawn [17:50] georgelappies, arent you new to ubuntu? [17:51] hmm... we being swamped by the quassel users here [17:54] Kilos: no been using it for years. Started using Linux back in 1998 :) [17:54] whew i get mixed up [17:54] not many new okes go kde to start with [17:54] took me years to try it out [18:02] lol, no prob [18:03] KDE is the best atm in my opinion. Kubuntu 13.04 rocks :D [18:25] *yawn* [18:33] lol go sleep nlsthzn [18:33] ubuntu is getting too good, we dont get enough noobs anymore [18:35] night all. sleep tight === nlsthzn is now known as not_found [21:42] morning [21:42] morning [21:42] 38 sleepers ? [21:43] hi [21:44] yo [21:44] up working late ? [21:48] nah [21:48] no work tomorrow [21:48] so just busy playing around on my PC [21:48] hi Squirm[M] 'o' [21:51] Hi Cantide