[05:06] <not_found> wake-up ZA ... it is time to get up now
[06:20] <magespawn> Hey all
[06:23] <plustwo> hi all
[06:23] <Maaz> plustwo: By the way, inetpro on freenode told me "tell plustwo you should try quassel on lubuntu" 10 hours, 50 minutes and 44 seconds ago
[06:23] <Kilos> morning magespawn and others
[06:23] <plustwo> Maaz: thank you
[06:23] <Maaz> plustwo: Sure
[06:23] <Kilos> hi plustwo 
[06:24] <plustwo> morning Kilos
[06:26] <mazal> Morning everyone
[06:27] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[06:27] <Kilos> koud ne
[06:28] <plustwo> mazal: o/
[06:51] <Kilos> hi not_found 
[06:52] <not_found> uncle Kilos :) how has winter been?
[06:54] <Kilos> still getting worse slowly not_found  we aint neen under 4c yet
[06:54] <not_found> brrrrr
[06:56] <Kilos> 4°c
[06:56] <Kilos> thats better. forgot the capslock was the compose key
[07:02] <not_found> still brrrrrrr
[07:07] <Kilos> lol yeah winter really sucks
[07:09] <not_found> not here... if it was winter here the whole year everyone would want to live here :p
[07:14] <Kilos> yeah like in the tropics
[07:19] <not_found> but even the tropics aren't that great all year round... I hate high humidity :/
[07:19] <Kilos> aw 
[07:19] <Kilos> i prefered durbans humidity to the transvaals dryness
[07:20] <Kilos> imo the only bad thing in the tropics are the mosquitoes
[07:21] <not_found> I never minded humidity until a summer here >.<
[07:21] <Kilos> does it get humid there?
[07:22] <magespawn> Hey any body want a working 28.8 external modem?
[07:22] <not_found> very very VERY humid... at night it looks like fog, but it isn't, it's just the humidity :'(
[07:22] <not_found> magespawn:garage sale? :p
[07:23] <magespawn> Anybody want a working 28.8 modem?
[07:24] <Kilos> hehe everytime i top up with telkom i get 2g wireless free but nowhere to use it
[07:24] <Kilos> adsl magespawn ?
[07:25] <not_found> nope that is dial up
[07:25] <magespawn> sorry for the double. the quassel is not updating on the phone
[07:25] <not_found> slowest modem I had was a 36.6 :p
[07:26] <not_found> and even 56k is actually ridiculously slow
[07:26] <not_found> *shudder*
[07:26] <Kilos> isnt it still faster than can be supplied here by the isp
[07:26] <magespawn> still have people out here using those
[07:26] <not_found> I remember with a 56k modem using mweb we would get excited if the download speed peaked more than 1kbps for a couple of seconds :p
[07:27] <Kilos> 1 kb/s?
[07:27] <Kilos> thats worse than gprs
[07:28] <magespawn> Kilos: you measure the page load speed with an hour glass
[07:28] <Kilos> lol
[07:29] <not_found> magespawn: I can't imagine trying to use the modern web with that
[07:29] <not_found> yes uncle Kilos... gprs way faster
[07:29] <mazal> Big downloads needed a calender to measure :-)
[07:29] <Kilos> arent they upgradeable by changing chips or so
[07:29] <not_found> nope
[07:29] <mazal> I would throw it into download manager and work out which day of the week it should be complete hehehe
[07:30] <Kilos> what in it chooses the speed
[07:30] <not_found> there was some modems with some compression technicques but even a 100% improvement means 2kbps
[07:30] <Kilos> thats sounds real, bad
[07:30] <mazal> Ons was met min teverede
[07:30] <Kilos> sjoe
[07:30] <not_found> yup, it was awesome still
[07:31] <not_found> the good old days :p
[07:31] <magespawn> and only in 1993/4 this was the cutting edge of connectivity in SA
[07:31] <Kilos> magespawn, use it as a paper weight
[07:31] <mazal> Things like irc and rss was much bigger those days as it used less data
[07:31] <magespawn> BBS
[07:32] <not_found> and being connected to a phone call all that time meant telkom smiled all the way to the bank
[07:32] <Kilos> ya
[07:32] <not_found> usenet
[07:32] <magespawn> my first months telkom bill on dial up was in the R1500 range
[07:32] <not_found> the dark underbelly of the net
[07:32] <Kilos> mweb isnt cheap if you add the costs of the telkom line too
[07:33] <not_found> ouch
[07:33] <Kilos> wow
[07:33] <not_found> that is why I basically went without internet until I came to the UAE
[07:33] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[07:33] <Kilos> i thought gprs was bad
[07:34] <mazal> mweb has been the most expensive from the start
[07:34] <magespawn> now i pay R600 f
[07:34] <Kilos> even got to peak at 10 kB/s
[07:34] <mazal> And I remember they had modems that only their modem could connect to an mweb account
[07:34] <Kilos> hi charl_ 
[07:34] <magespawn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system
[07:35] <Kilos> whew so i missed the worser times
[07:35] <Kilos> thank heavens
[07:35] <not_found> websites back in the day was not like now... pictures was a luxury...
[07:35] <charl_> good morning
[07:35] <charl_> hi Kilos 
[07:35] <charl_> hi not_found 
[07:36] <not_found> alo charl_
[07:37] <Kilos> mazal, say hi to barry for me i missed him yesterday with no power here
[07:37] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[07:37]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[07:37] <charl_> went to deventer yesterday, had a great day and took a bunch of pictures http://imgur.com/a/n6Ocf/all
[07:37] <magespawn> when i first got a modem Telkom told me they did not support that service without a special application
[07:38] <charl_> only got back after 11 and am exhausted now, didn't get enough sleep
[07:38] <mazal> Oom Kilos he says he will peek in later
[07:39] <Kilos> cool
[07:39] <magespawn> looks very cool charl_, i love old buildings and churchs in particular
[07:40] <charl_> yeah deventer is an old city http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deventer
[07:40] <charl_> used to be a fisherman's city where they used to catch fish in the north sea
[07:40] <charl_> in particular stockfish http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockfish
[07:41] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[07:41] <magespawn> do they still do that?
[07:42] <charl_> not sure but i think trawling is done by large companies now
[07:42] <charl_> Maaz: thanks
[07:42] <Maaz> charl_: Okay :-)
[07:44] <Kilos> hi barrydk 
[07:44] <charl_> hi barrydk 
[07:45] <Symmetria> yay
[07:45] <Symmetria> I just booked a holiday
[07:45] <Symmetria> ;p
[07:45] <Symmetria> first true holiday I taken in years
[07:45] <charl_> Symmetria: where are you going to?
[07:45] <Symmetria> the cayman islands ;p 
[07:46] <barrydk> Good morning every one and welcome
[07:46] <charl_> googling...
[07:46] <Symmetria> I needed to sort out some banking shit over there anyway 
[07:46] <charl_> ah in the carribean
[07:46] <Symmetria> yeah
[07:46] <Symmetria> <3
[07:46] <charl_> banking in the cayman islands
[07:46] <charl_> i will not ask anything further :)
[07:47] <magespawn> good place to keep forex
[07:47] <charl_> ooh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cayman_Islands#Taxation
[07:47] <charl_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cayman_Islands#Financial_Services_Industry
[07:48] <Symmetria> heh the cayman islands is a very good place to store money
[07:49] <charl_> apparently yeah
[07:49] <magespawn> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u8KkvZvVVI&feature=youtube_gdata_player 
[07:49] <magespawn> amazing what people can do now
[07:50] <charl_> wow great
[08:18] <charl_> magespawn: did you see my photos of maastricht the other day? http://imgur.com/a/oIIcm
[08:18] <charl_> that's also a very old city
[08:23] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[08:23] <charl_> hi Squirm 
[08:24] <charl_> hi psyatw 
[08:24] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[08:25] <psyatw> hi charl
[08:25] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[08:25] <psyatw> charl_*
[08:28] <Symmetria> hahahah oh man,  you gotta love alcatel
[08:28] <Symmetria> they released a new version of their router code
[08:28] <Symmetria> and it had a bug in it
[08:28] <Symmetria> ;p it makes the router stop recognizing half the ram in the box
[08:28] <Symmetria> thats... quite a bug :)
[08:31] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[08:33] <Vince-0> Hi Kilos!
[08:36] <not_found> who here has heard of discourse?
[08:44] <Vince-0> rational discourse?
[08:44] <Symmetria> lol, someone on efnet challenged me to an ascii war 
[08:44] <not_found> Vince-0: nope... it is a new forum platform
[08:44] <Symmetria> haha wooops, I dumped so much ascii at him one of the efnet servers split 
[08:45] <Symmetria> haha 450meg ascii flood 
[08:45]  * Symmetria is amused
[08:45] <not_found> ouch, they should have kicked you :p
[08:45] <Symmetria> not_found lol, only reason I can do that is because Im an admin
[08:45] <not_found> oh haha, makes sense
[08:45] <Symmetria> users cant flood war between each other, servers wont let em
[08:45] <Symmetria> its the admins that flood war between them for fun and games
[08:45] <Symmetria> ;p
[08:45] <not_found> ah ok...
[08:46] <Symmetria> and if users are stupid they join the flood war channels to see whats going on
[08:46] <Symmetria> and find themselves insta disconnected 
[08:46] <not_found> I never got to do that kind of thing because of the strict rules etc :p
[08:46] <Symmetria> lol, the efnet admins are running like 1.5gig sendqs and the clients are on the servers themselves with huge bandwidth
[08:46] <Symmetria> not_found lol, on which network?
[08:46] <not_found> any...
[08:46] <not_found> then again I am not a big IRC user...
[08:46] <Symmetria> not_found lol, even on efnet, the opers arent allowed to do it 
[08:46] <Symmetria> the admins, well, rules dont apply to us
[08:46] <Symmetria> ;p
[08:47] <not_found> true :p
[08:47] <Symmetria> efnet rules are pretty simple, users cant do X Y and Z
[08:47] <Symmetria> opers its slightly more lax
[08:47] <Symmetria> admins, well, the only rules admins have is that they cant evade bans and cant op themselves etc in user channels
[08:47] <not_found> I remember a time when posting more than two lines too quickly could get you kicked on some busier channels
[08:48] <not_found> had to tread softly and not annoy someone with ops
[08:48] <Symmetria> not_found ahha there is another trick I use on efnet 
[08:48] <Symmetria> I /topic my text
[08:48] <not_found> that could become a big topic...
[08:48] <Symmetria> heh, servers all configured to limit text traffic in channels and msg
[08:48] <not_found> is there a limit to topic size?
[08:48] <Symmetria> but /topic has no limits
[08:48] <not_found> lol
[08:48] <Symmetria> nah, its not one topic
[08:49] <Symmetria> you set 100k topics in like 5 seconds
[08:49] <Symmetria> insta death to everyone ;p
[08:49] <not_found> and the server :p
[08:49] <Symmetria> lol nah most servers handle it just fine 
[08:49] <Symmetria> I just pushed that one a little 2 far
[08:49] <Symmetria> ;p
[08:49] <not_found> :)
[08:49] <Symmetria> I tried to set 100k topics x 12 clients at the same time
[08:49] <Symmetria> for 1.2 million topics 
[08:50] <Symmetria>   129500 killflood.txt
[08:50] <Symmetria> ;p
[09:25] <charl_> finally got around to uploading my amsterdam pictures http://imgur.com/a/mlASt/all
[09:25] <charl_> got some nice ones
[09:27] <charl_> here's one of the dutch pirate party http://i.imgur.com/bntkeLz.jpg
[09:29] <not_found> a lone flag
[09:29] <charl_> ?
[09:29] <charl_> you were expecting 10?
[09:29] <magespawn> yes charl_ i did see the other photos too
[09:30] <charl_> cool
[09:30] <charl_> been doing a lot of traveling the last week wow
[09:30] <charl_> three cities in 8 days
[09:32] <magespawn> the benefit of living in europe
[09:32] <magespawn> Symmetria: that reminds me of the zip bomb
[09:33] <charl_> that's true, in america you have to travel ridiculously long distances from one place to the next
[09:34] <charl_> it's an overpopulation problem but also a benefit in some ways
[09:34] <charl_> also means owning land is expensive though
[09:38] <magespawn> in sa youhave to travel a fair way before getting somewhere
[09:38] <not_found> oh dear... we are struggling against the netherlands in cricket... I wonder if the team went to some of the cafe's last night and again this morning before the game started >.>
[09:38] <magespawn> is it the full stength team?
[09:39] <not_found> won't say it is 100% but we are batting and it is top batsman that have fallen...
[09:39] <not_found> http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/602761.html
[09:40] <charl_> hold on a second, the netherlands plays cricket?
[09:40] <charl_> i live in the netherlands and i did not know that
[09:41] <not_found> no, they are actually playing hockey and that is why our cricket team is loosing :p
[09:41] <charl_> being beaten by the netherlands in cricket... that is pretty embarrasing
[09:42] <charl_> if you were beaten by england at least you could have said you went up against a formiddable opponent :P
[09:42] <not_found> well not beaten yet :p
[09:42] <not_found> lol
[09:42] <not_found> I wonder when england was considered formidable last...?!
[09:42] <charl_> not sure but they invented cricket
[09:43] <not_found> and rugby...
[09:43] <charl_> we don't play cricket or rugby in europe much
[09:43] <charl_> *continental europe
[09:43] <charl_> not that england is considered to be part of europe in any case :P
[09:44] <not_found> better not to play a sport you suck at I guess
[09:44] <not_found> or if you do keep it quiet
[09:44] <charl_> it's sport... noone lives or dies from it
[09:45] <charl_> it's (supposed to be) just for the lols
[09:45] <not_found> lots of people live from it actually... that and drive fast cars because of it...
[09:45] <not_found> and if you play football in south america you better not make to many mistakes you might get shot
[09:46] <charl_> i meant live as in not die :P but yes
[09:46] <charl_> making a living from sport is possible
[09:46] <charl_> but it's entertainment basically
[09:49] <Kilos> entertainment for the spectators but serious business for the players
[09:49] <Kilos> big money involved
[09:49] <magespawn> it never pays to underestimate anybody
[09:50] <magespawn> IPL is big cash to the players
[09:50] <charl_> yeah if i listen to what type of money some football players make in europe it's ridiculous
[09:50] <charl_> millions of euros some of them get paid
[09:50] <charl_> it's sickening
[09:50] <charl_> although, if you are fortunate to be in that position, "why not"
[10:00] <Symmetria> heh, there is *huge* money in football 
[10:00] <Symmetria> look at what the managers earn even
[10:01] <Symmetria> Jose Mourinho just signed a 4 year deal with Chelsea for 40 MILLION POUNDS!!!!
[10:01] <Symmetria> Steve Gerrard earns 225 thousand pounds *a week*
[10:01] <Symmetria> bastard earns in a week what I earn in a year :( 
[10:02] <not_found> that in a year is a good salary !!
[10:02] <magespawn> lets not go there
[10:02] <not_found> lol
[10:05] <magespawn> that is 5000 pounds an hour assuming 45 hour week
[10:05] <Kilos> hehe
[10:05] <magespawn> so he earns more per hour than i do in a year
[10:06] <Kilos> big bucks in sport
[10:06] <Kilos> but to be at the top is murder too
[10:06] <Kilos> many hours of blood sweat and tears
[10:07] <Squirm[M]> Meh
[10:07] <Squirm[M]> I can't remember what team I'm on in ingress
[10:07] <Kilos> lol
[10:07] <not_found> nobody said it was easy... but still what they do and get paid doesn't scale well with other salaries :p
[10:07] <Squirm[M]> There is a portal right next to where I'm staying
[10:07] <not_found> Squirm: lol
[10:08] <Squirm[M]> I've never seen a portal
[10:10] <Kilos> not really not_found 
[10:11] <Kilos> almost every geeks can get a job but check how many sportsmen actually manage to make the pro league
[10:12] <not_found> ok uncle Kilos, so you make the pro-league... thus you should get paid per our what a lot of qualified hardworking people earn per month >.>
[10:12] <Kilos> lol
[10:12] <Kilos> its like lawyers
[10:12] <Kilos> they dont earn what they charge
[10:13] <not_found> :)
[10:14] <not_found> cricket :p - punched, worked, cut, whipped, driven etc...
[10:15] <Kilos> lol
[10:15] <Kilos> everything has its own language
[10:15] <not_found> that is just the commentary on two overs
[10:15] <Kilos> oh my Squirm wassup
[10:16] <Kilos> you even andchat now
[11:14] <not_found> Maaz: why you leave?!
[11:14] <Maaz> not_found: Huh?
[11:15] <not_found> Maaz: you stupid?
[11:15] <Maaz> not_found: *blink*
[11:15] <not_found> :(
[11:15] <not_found> Maaz: I love you
[11:15] <Maaz> not_found Don't embarrass youself. You aren't a cyber chick
[11:15] <not_found> true
[11:16] <Kilos> hehe
[11:16] <Kilos> cheeky bot
[11:16] <not_found> :)
[11:39] <Kilos> hi Julius129 
[11:40] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[11:48] <not_found> two SA batsman have now hit about 8 sixes in 3 overs with a few other boundaries for good measure
[11:50] <not_found> last 5 overs run rate: 16
[11:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'ello
[11:51] <not_found> *h
[12:02] <not_found> last 5 overs of the innings SA run rate: 19.6
[12:02] <Kilos> whew
[12:04] <not_found> in mooi afrikaans sou 'n mens sê hulle het die bal hard gemoer...
[12:04] <Kilos> lol
[12:04] <not_found> then again I don't know any mooi afrikaans :p
[12:05] <magespawn> https://training.linuxfoundation.org/free-linux-training/linux-tutorials-and-videos/how-to-build-a-firewall-in-linux
[12:06] <magespawn> cool stuff
[12:12] <magespawn> bbl fish pick up time
[12:12] <Kilos> k
[13:09] <Guest7898> hi
[13:52] <superfly> nuvolari, kbmonkey: are you guys ready for Sunday?
[13:53] <georgelappies> hi Kilos
[13:53] <Kilos> hi superfly georgelappies 
[13:53] <superfly> hi Kilos
[13:53] <Kilos> nuvolari, been very quiet superfly 
[13:54] <Kilos> and the monkey its better to mail
[13:54] <Kilos> maybe Vince-0 can rev them in some way
[13:55] <superfly> will try to sms nuvolari
[13:56] <Kilos> that might be the best
[13:56] <Kilos> hes been ill i hear
[13:57] <Vince-0> heey
[13:58] <Kilos> there you are Vince-0 the fly will be there sdunday
[13:58] <Kilos> sunday too
[14:04] <Vince-0> yaar
[14:04] <Vince-0> I actually saw nuvolari briefly last night
[14:04] <Vince-0> online that is
[14:04] <Kilos> here?
[14:05] <Vince-0> on the hangout
[14:05] <Kilos> oh in the g+ hangout
[14:06] <Vince-0> ya he didn't stick around for long - think he's behind with work 'cos of illness
[14:07] <Vince-0> I'll message 
[14:07] <Kilos> ty
[14:07] <Vince-0> kbmonkey, and nuvolari and see where we meet
[14:13] <magespawn> back
[14:13] <magespawn> hey all
[14:14] <Kilos> wb magespawn 
[14:15] <Kilos> the fly gonna be in tekwini sunday
[14:15] <magespawn> cool beans
[14:15] <Kilos> now just to see them lug okes look after him
[14:16] <magespawn> i ams ure it will be fine
[14:16] <magespawn> am sure
[14:17] <Kilos> try find him some queen pines so long
[14:17] <Kilos> hehe
[14:18] <magespawn> nah want them to be nice and fresh
[14:18] <Kilos> i think they only get the tiny ones in the cape
[14:21] <magespawn> we have three types here, small round very sweet one are the best
[14:22] <Kilos> ya the queens are for canning i think
[14:23] <Kilos> they those massive ones
[14:23] <Kilos> they still lekker to eat though
[14:24] <magespawn> summer pineapples are the best
[14:27] <Kilos> its always summer there
[14:40] <magespawn> well i suppose that is true
[14:50] <charl_> ok had some fun playing with apache jena today http://jena.apache.org/
[14:50] <charl_> have been looking forward to it for a while
[14:51] <charl_> also had a go generating java classes from an XSD using JAXB
[14:51] <charl_> now it's time for me to go home however
[14:51] <charl_> ciao all, have a good weekend!
[15:28] <magespawn> later all home time
[15:28] <Kilos> go safe magespawn 
[17:50] <Kilos> georgelappies, arent you new to ubuntu?
[17:51] <Kilos> hmm... we being swamped by the quassel users here
[17:54] <georgelappies> Kilos: no been using it for years. Started using Linux back in 1998 :)
[17:54] <Kilos> whew i get mixed up
[17:54] <Kilos> not many new okes go kde to start with
[17:54] <Kilos> took me years to try it out
[18:02] <georgelappies> lol, no prob
[18:03] <georgelappies> KDE is the best atm in my opinion. Kubuntu 13.04 rocks :D
[18:25] <nlsthzn> *yawn*
[18:33] <Kilos> lol go sleep nlsthzn 
[18:33] <Kilos> ubuntu is getting too good, we dont get enough noobs anymore
[18:35] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[21:42] <trander> morning
[21:42] <trander> morning
[21:42] <trander> 38 sleepers ?
[21:43] <Cantide> hi
[21:44] <trander> yo
[21:44] <trander> up working late ?
[21:48] <Cantide> nah
[21:48] <Cantide> no work tomorrow
[21:48] <Cantide> so just busy playing around on my PC
[21:48] <Cantide> hi Squirm[M] 'o'
[21:51] <Squirm[M]> Hi Cantide