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jhutchins_wknoiro: THe problem is that you're using a GUI.00:00
betraydbingo00:00
noirojhutchins_wk, this is Ubuntu, I shouldn't have to use much CLI. The commands to move files would take forever. If I wanted CLI, I'd be on Gentoo.00:00
cfenixi did that already, ubuntu 12.04 (also happened with 13.04) pretty much my system is clean, P42.8 2gbram NVGF6200 256mb00:01
cfenixmy mouse is not able to control (click) on any window00:01
cfenixonly think i changed before it stopped working was some settings on compiz menu00:02
ring0noiro, have you checked permissions of the archive you're trying to add files to?00:02
cfenixbut it was working fine earlier today, and yesterday00:02
noiroring0, I have full read/right permissions.00:03
cfenixi switched to Unity2D but that did't fix the problem00:04
santisomsip: everything was set to root, sudoed it and I still get the password prompt. See http://dpaste.com/1205617/00:05
ring0noiro, you seem to be doing something wrong. try the cli instead00:06
* genii-around wonders if it takes longer to type jar -uf jarfiletoupdate.jar filenametoadd than to load WINE, load WinRAR under WINE, then drag and drop stuff00:08
noiroring0: This supposedly fixes the problem, but how would I install the dependencies of that version? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=207416600:08
ring0noiro, depends on the archive manager you're using, its version and your ubuntu version00:11
cfenixAfter I launch an application, for the most part I can no longer click on anything.00:13
ring0cfenix, get a more powerful machine00:14
batmitecfenix: try ubuntu 2d? or a more minimal gui, like xfce?00:15
cfenixi already switched to Unity2D00:15
cfenixthat did't solved annything00:15
batmiteid try gnome or xfce. worked for my old machine.00:16
Schumamm.Greetings. I want to install the 13.6 ati beta driver. Meantime, when I run  'buildpkg Ubuntu/quantal' and dpkg -i *deb' I get: fglrx is not installed. If I install the package from thee repository, i'll get the latest?00:16
genii-aroundcfenix: Most likely it starts to use swap and bogs everything00:16
nmatrix9anyone here use tumblr?00:16
cfenixit was working fine yesterday all day with both Unity and Unity2D00:17
batmiteok, good to know.00:17
SchumammGreetings. I want to install the 13.6 ati beta driver. Meantime, when I run  'buildpkg Ubuntu/quantal' and dpkg -i *deb' I get: fglrx is not installed. If I install the package from thee repository, i'll get the latest?00:18
SchumammIs that relevant?00:18
cfenixi thought it was an issue with 13.04, so i switched to 12.04, and everything was working fine, i even did some gaming, but as today this issue presented again, I don't know how to get info of the issue to be able to review it..00:19
SchumammShit! Where is everybody?00:20
nmatrix9Why doesn't Tumblr use pagination00:20
genii-aroundSchumamm: If you want the latest and greatest video drivers, perhaps consider the xorg-edgers PPA. Also please watch the profanity, we try to keep the channel family-friendly00:21
cfenixSchumamm: repositories might not be the latest ones but instead the more stable ones00:21
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SchumammTo admonish is fast. Cool.00:21
genii-aroundSchumamm: For the driver version you're trying to build, the packagename there would be  fglrx-installer-1300:22
Schumammgenii-around: Its not. I got an error.00:22
Schumammgenii-around: I will see the drivers available to better performance with steam.00:23
Schumammcfenix: Got it. Ok.00:23
somsipsanti: are you running 'sudo ssh...'?00:24
sianhulowhy can't I open .sh .bin .bundle, etc file types with doble click as I used to be able to?(yeah, it's marked as executable)(ubuntu 13.04, fresh install, 64 bits version)00:25
genii-aroundSchumamm: I had to re-enable xorg-edgers ppa here to check again :)  The packagename for the fglrx 13.10  driver is fglrx-1300:29
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sector0I have a program in /usr/local/bin and I can't execute it from terminal without specifying the entire path00:29
knivezdoes ubuntu come with an smtp server?00:29
sector0is that normal?00:29
somsipknivez: not as installed but there are plenty to chose from00:30
sector0I can't remember it's been a long while since i used linux :p00:30
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somsipsector0: not normal. What does echo $PATH show you?00:30
cfenixapparently after pressing "Ctrl+Alt+F1" follow by "Ctrl+Alt+F7" fix the problem during a session(until i reboot the system that is)00:30
sector0somsip: oh nevermind I restarted the terminal and it works00:32
sector0however there's a dynamic library in the folder /usr/local/lib and the program can't find it00:33
cfenixbut how can I fix it period?00:33
superfrankGuys i need a help with my Ubuntu 12.0400:33
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superfrankMy Ubuntu 12.04 is crashing automatically, and it shows a list of processes killed. Which is like all the processes00:34
superfrankThis does not happen on any event, it just happens randomly after a few seconds I boot in.00:34
superfrankPlease help me out00:34
cfenixsuperfrank: what were you doing when this started happening?00:35
superfrankNothing00:35
superfrankI mean just regular browsing00:35
superfrankMy installation has been woking fine for the past few months00:35
superfrankI haven't changed or installed or removed any application00:35
superfrankNor have I editted any settings00:36
superfrankAll is the same00:36
superfrankAnd now after the log in , few seconds in, all the processes are killed and then the OS just stays as it is00:36
mesheltonHi all, I'm trying to write a program that needs to detect when a cd is inserted and removed from a computer running ubuntu and I was wondering if anyone knows of a good way to get this information? I've tried mucking around with dbus but I haven't been able to get the udisks dbus api to work correctly.00:36
superfrankIt is not a hardware problem since Windows is working properly00:36
superfrankmeshelton: Which language are you trying to write it in00:37
superfrankcfenix: please hel me out00:37
superfrankcfenix: please help me out00:37
sector0but if /usr/local/bin is in the PATH variable, doesn't it make sense that /usr/local/lib should be there as well?00:37
mesheltonsuperfrank: java/scala was the idea, not terrible deadset on any language00:37
superfrankmeshelton: give me a sec00:38
superfrankmeshelton: If you CD Drive is mounted with a fixed name in the /media or /mnt folder, then you can just poll that folder to see whether the folder has something or not00:39
ryweehi, can anyone explain the quickest way to update or reinstall ubuntu via usb -- i have a netbook with Ubuntu installed but every time i start up it freezes, says something about hard disk health issues and then i click examine, a disk utility pops up and then it just stops responding00:39
histosuperfrank: I would create a new account and see if it's crashing there... It could be something in your ~00:40
historywee: Boot to a usb and checkout smartmontools make sure you disk is healthy00:40
ryweei ctrl alt del and got to the login page, and now its logging in, but its running insanely slow -- only 1 gb of ram, but still00:40
ryweeand the cycle continues...00:41
mesheltonsuperfrank: yeah, that was my first idea but I was wondering if there was a cleaner way to figure that out, seems like I would be wasting a lot of cycles doing nothing00:41
superfrankhisto: How would anything in the home folder affect the auto process killing?, Because I was deleting some files in the home folder when this happened? Can that be the reason00:41
superfrankmeshelton: Do you need access to the actual device or the just the contents of the CD?00:41
ryweeand now, i am at the desktop but its entirely empty, just a background image00:41
batmiteanyone use IprediaOS?00:42
LA2I have two computers, quite similar, with very different behaviour. When I run RCS command "co -p1.2000 filename" (RCS version 5.8.1) a lot of /tmp disk I/O takes places. But on ext3 under Ubuntu 12.10 (kernel 3.2.0-39) this only uses CPU time, because the data are not actually written to disk. But on ext4 under Ubuntu 13.04 (kernel 3.8.0-22), there is a lot of disk I/O, namely write operations, which adds iowait time. Why?00:43
histosuperfrank: You can see with the creation of a new user. Perhaps some setting stored in ~ is causing a process to crash and killing other things with it.00:43
mesheltonsuperfrank: I would like to know if the disk is a cdrom or a dvd which I think you can get from the device00:44
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histoLA2: differences in the journaling perhaps?00:44
LA2could be. Is there a way I can tell?00:44
cfenixrywee: use "startup disk creator" to make an USB installation, also if you dowload the same version you are already running it will offer you an option to fix your actual installation rather than reinstalling it00:44
histoLA2: try using ext3 in 13.04 and they should behave the same00:45
histoLA2: I suspect your issue is do to the difference in the filesystems00:45
superfrankhisto: How will I create an account, if it crashes while I am using it, I just get like a window of few seconds, and creating an account will take some more time00:45
ryweecfenix i cant do anything with the ubuntu machine.. its just a blank desktop , i dont know how to navigate to anything00:45
LA2can I tune any parameter in the ext4 filesystem?00:45
histoLA2: actually you could mount the existing ext3 system as ext4 I believe00:46
histoLA2: you can turn the journaling off and test... to see if that's what is doing it.00:46
LA2with iostat I can monitor the disk I/O. But can I see what part is journaling? Is there any tool for that?00:47
ryweei just ctrl alt del to log out, and its running some DOS looking thing and 'media error' over and over00:47
ryweeand now a blank screen .. .00:47
ryweeblack screen with my cursor there..00:48
cfenixrywee: how are you running  this IRC window?00:48
ryweewith a different computer00:48
ryweeok, now im back to the login scren00:48
ryweescreen **00:48
ryweebut its frozen00:49
ryweeexcept for the cursor...00:49
cfenixcan't you use this machine to create you USB boot loader?00:49
ryweei think i could, i just dont know how..00:49
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ryweei dont really know how the netbook got to be ubuntu -- i just found it in the garage00:49
superfrank@histo any ideas?00:50
cfenixrywee: are you using ubuntu? or windows?00:50
ryweethis machine is mac osx00:50
ryweei have a windows desktop of thats easier00:51
ryweeand is a 4gb thumbdrive large enough?00:51
superfrankRywee: yepp00:51
ryweeok00:52
ryweecan anyone link a quick guide to setting up the thumbdrive?00:52
cfenixrywee: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx00:52
histosuperfrank: Yeah create a new account login with that and see if it crashes00:53
ryweethank you cfenix00:53
ring0macos does feature dd, neat00:53
superfrankhisto: how would i create a new login in just undr 10 seconds. That is the time it takes for my pc to crash00:54
historing0: you can install dd in windows as well00:54
histosuperfrank: does it crash after you login or before?00:55
abdSelamın aleykum00:55
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superfrankhisto: after i login. But it crashes within a few seconds after i login00:56
superfrankhisto: under ten seconds to be precise00:56
histosuperfrank: when you at the login screen hit ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a tty. login there and use adduser00:56
ring0histo, yes, windd. but i don't care at all about windows ;)00:56
histosuperfrank: you can hit ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to desktop after you are done.00:57
superfrankHisto:it crashes in tty1 as well00:58
histosuperfrank: boot to single user (recovery mode) and do it from there.00:59
ryweeim very confused by this converting with terminal in osx ...01:02
historywee: in oSX can you see /dev/sdX  or whatever of your usb?01:04
mandrakehello01:04
dr_willismello01:04
ryweeso far i have an empty usb, and the iso of ubuntu that i just downloaded from their site01:04
historywee: Just runt he command substituting path/to/ubuntu.iso with it's actual location01:05
ryweei have no idea what that means...01:05
mandrakehow are u?01:05
historywee: open a terminal in osx and cd or change directory to where they iso is01:05
dr_willisyou dont understand the idea of a files path?01:05
ryweeI dont understand what im supposed to do with the terminal01:06
ryweei have this: hdiutil convert -format UDRW -o ~/path/to/target.img ~/path/to/ubuntu.iso01:06
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historywee: convert the iso to an img file01:06
historywee: then you write that image file to the usb with the dd command01:06
ryweesee, i dont know what a dd command is01:06
dr_willisI wonder if pendrivelinux site has tools for osx01:07
historywee: it's a command for writing images to disk01:07
histodr_willis: I wonder if he just dd's the iso to the usb if it will work01:07
histodr_willis: I don't understand why they have to convert to img first. Although I don't use mac01:07
dr_willisIf he gets the device right01:07
ryweeim using osx, why cant i just use the disk utility or something?01:07
dr_willisrywee:  look at   the  pendrivelinux  site  for  osx tools01:08
rywee:\01:09
ryweethis seems so strangely difficult01:09
historywee: it's not you are making it harder than it is.01:09
ryweeuh01:10
ryweeok01:10
ryweeso, i have this iso i downloaded01:10
ryweeand the page i got it from says01:10
dr_willishttp://askubuntu.com/search?q=+iso+usb+osx01:10
ryweeopen the terminal01:10
ryweedone.01:10
ryweethen it says to convert it01:10
ryweewhich i have never done01:10
ryweeand it has no instructions for that01:11
historywee: yes it does hdiutil convert .... that command01:11
ryweeok, i copy pasted that01:11
ryweebut it doesnt explain what to do with that command01:11
historywee: you have to fix the part about ~/path/to/ubuntu.iso01:11
genii-aroundI think I'd probably just use http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-mac-latest.zip01:12
historywee: hdiutil convert -format UDRW -o ~/where/you/want/the.img ~/where/you/downloaded/the/ubuntu.iso01:12
ryweei see01:12
chrishello everybody01:12
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Guest5934hello01:13
historywee: after you convert it then you continue with "diskutil list"  plug in your USB and run diskutil list  again to get the new USB device01:13
histoGuest5934: hola01:13
Guest5934i have a noob question on linux anybody what to try to help me ?01:14
Guest5934want*01:14
dr_willismakes one wonder why the mac tools cant handle the iso standard01:14
genii-aroundGuest5934: Probably better to just ask your actual question and then see if anyone takes it up01:14
Guest5934in terminal how can you create a file with space in the name ??01:14
Guest5934like 2 3 4 5.txt01:15
mbhatnaguse quotation marks, Guest593401:15
genii-aroundGuest5934: touch "a name with spaces"01:15
mbhatnagtouch "1 2 3 4 5.txt"01:15
Guest5934i try cat> 2 3 4 5.txt but that only create file 2 :(01:15
efudd:>"2 3 4 5.txt"01:15
efuddor :>2\ 3\ \4\ 5.txt01:15
efuddquote or escape. next.01:15
Guest5934 i will try right now thanks01:16
Guest5934really thanks01:16
Guest5934i was thinking touch was to create multiple file .. i'm so noob i know lol01:16
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superfrankhisto: single user mode is working01:18
Guest5934thnaks efudd01:18
Guest5934thanks*01:18
histosuperfrank: okay in single user mode adduser bob01:18
superfrankHisto: yeahbi have added the user01:18
superfrankHisto: but in single user mode also it vrashed but i was successful able to add a new user01:19
histosuperfrank: okay reboot see if it crashes with them.01:19
histosuperfrank: huh?  it crashed in single user mode?  What exactly happens with it "crashes"??01:19
superfrankHisto: it is shwoing out of memory error while killing processes01:20
cfenixrywee: it is way easier using windows since they do have a program to generate the booteable USB01:20
ryweeT_T01:20
ryweeyeah, this is not happening with terminal01:20
cfenixrywee: here check this out01:21
cfenixrywee: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows01:21
superfrankHisto: a bunch of process are killed with an error of out of memory and it juay stays like that01:21
histosuperfrank: How much ram does this machine have?01:21
rywee`thanks, on it01:22
superfrankHisto: 6gb but i am using a 32 bit distro so 401:22
Flexioubuntu works great!01:22
niocoraI installed the cinnamon DE because unity wasn't showing the global menu bar or launcher, but cinnamon wasn't showing the bar either, I swapped to software rendering on the CPU and now everything works, without effects and low CPU usage, what could be wrong with my drivers that the bars aren't showing?01:23
histosuperfrank: No idea how you are filling 4gb of RAM on boot... Do you have a swap?01:23
histosuperfrank: something is leaking01:23
superfrankHisto: i do have a pretty big swap partition dont remember thr size. Even i am confused how it is filling in this unrealistic amount of memory01:24
aleza84anybody proficient in netatalk / avahi?01:27
soy_el_pulposuperfrank: boot singleuser mode no graphical interface / cli only and see if the problem persist, check the logs then01:27
* niocora coughs twice politely.01:27
soy_el_pulpoaleza84: a little...01:28
aleza84soy_el_pulpo: spanish speaker?01:28
superfrankHisto: last time j used single user mode cli only01:28
soy_el_pulpowe01:28
soy_el_pulpoda01:28
infexionOn the ubuntu 12.04 installation01:28
soy_el_pulposi01:28
aleza84soy_el_pulpo: te mando por DM?01:28
knivezhow can i see what users are accessing my ubuntu server?01:28
infexionWhen you go to pick the option to install next to windows01:28
superfrankHisto: and that time as well it stopped processes01:28
soy_el_pulpoo podemos ir a #ubuntu-es si deseas01:28
aleza84soy_el_pulpo: te veo alla01:29
soy_el_pulpook01:29
histosuperfrank: yeah because you are out of ram. I would boot to single user and launch top   ...  see what starts to take all the ram01:29
infexionWhat is the linux partition and what is the windows partition on the slide bar01:29
infexion?01:29
niocorainfexion: ext4 is linux01:29
histoinfexion: The windows partition should be at the begining of your disk so the left I would assume on the slider01:30
infexionniocora: does not tell me that01:30
niocorainfexion: What histo said.01:30
histo!paste | infexion post a picture01:30
ubottuinfexion post a picture: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.01:30
infexionI cannot post a sreeny as I am in the installation and it is not letting me01:31
knivezdo you guys permitrootlogin when you run an ssh server01:32
knivez?01:32
niocorainfexion: You could cancel the entire installation so far and boot into a live demo to grab a screenshot.01:32
niocorainfexion: You could try shrinking one to a miniscule amount and see if ubuntu complains it needs more space as well.01:33
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knivezI have a drive that is suppose to read 3TB but when i mount it, it only reads 1.2 TB any advice on what to do?01:34
niocoraAnyone have any idea whats wrong with my whole driver setup that no desktop environment will show it's menu bars etc ec?01:35
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TehRandomSo, lets talk about Apache and Ubuntu01:35
superfrankhisto: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-sqi2oUItUqg/Uaf7hl-wfpI/AAAAAAAABHo/2qbwZQyByDE/w1185-h889-no/IMG_20130531_065153.jpg01:36
superfrankhisto: this is an image of my screen01:36
TehRandomWhy is 2.2.22 the current version of Apache on Ubuntu server?01:37
jeeves_mosshow do I make a software RAID1 with MDADM and then DD the data over from the single source drive?01:39
infexionniocora: <3 moving slider told me perfectly01:40
infexionniocora: thank you01:40
mauiI needthe command to install shockwave01:42
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mauii keep having problems with flash although i have installed flash01:42
maui''firefox install plugins'' FOR EVER01:43
mauii need a direct command to isntall shockwave01:43
craisinsi'm building a server, planning on using a usb flash drive as system os and 6 drives in a raid configuration. to install on the usb flash drive, do i just launch the installer from cd and tell it where to boot? do i need to make a swap partition?01:43
ikus060Hello, I'm using Ubuntu 13.04. I'm considering installing nvidia binary driver. Are you recommending it ? I have a NVIDIA GT218M [NVS 3100M]. Previously with debian it was very stable, but with ubuntu I always had trouble while updating... any comments on the subject ?01:44
Beltechsok I did something dumb... I was trying to clear email from /var/spool/email/ and I deleted the root file and I recreated a file but no email get to it.01:45
ikus060craisins: boot from CD, tell the installer to instal on the USB key. Create a swap as a file in the Raid array ...01:45
ikus060craisins: other tought, I suggest you to buy a cheap 30Gig SSD for the OS (~50$)01:46
craisinsikus060 that was the idea but i'm using all sata ports and i have no pata port01:46
ikus060craisins: the difference in speed worth it.01:46
Beltechshow can I recover that?01:46
rcmaehlGuys01:48
rcmaehlPlayonlinux left a launcher shortcut to a non-existant program in my startmenu01:49
rcmaehlhow do I remove it01:49
ikus060craisins: as suggest, boot from CD, during installation, select the USB pendrive. Don't create a swap on the usb device. You won't have any benefit since your usb drive is too slow, unless it's a USB3. I suggest you to create the swap as a file on the raid array.01:50
baldfatfind ~/ -name gamefilenameofyours.* and than delete the .desktop file01:50
baldfatrcmaehl: find ~/ -name gamefilenameofyours.* and than delete the .desktop file01:50
rcmaehlah01:51
rcmaehlfound it01:51
rcmaehlThanks :D01:51
craisinsthanks ikus06001:53
knivezcan you do an advanced search for pictures in ubuntu?01:53
darkbluecathello guys02:01
darkbluecatCan anyone help me with a little tweak?02:01
darkbluecatGuys ;_;02:02
seednodeDepends02:03
seednodeOn what the tweak is02:03
baldfatdarkbluecat: never ask a question to ask a question first rule of irc Just ask it and if it is long pastebin it02:03
cxipherTrying to install Ubuntu 12.04 via a external CD drive on an ultrabook without an internal one - I've used the CD to install Ubuntu before on another PC. The installer starts but I get to the "login" screen without it ever asking me to set up a user and then no matter what I enter I can not log in. I've tried ubuntu:ubuntu admin:root root:user and every combination I can think of - nothing.02:04
seednodeI haven't used Ubuntu for exactly... one year two months and a few days02:04
seednodebaldfat, that's not technically a first rule of IRC; have you ever been in a social channel anywhere but freenode?02:04
seednodeSo not up to date on Ubuntu02:04
cxipherthe ircs be darknets02:04
darkbluecatIm using Xubuntu 12.10 and I want to put square corners on my windows, but doesn't apper the option at the theme selector?02:04
darkbluecatAny ideas?02:04
baldfatseednode: No I avoid trolls and pr0n02:04
seednodebaldfat, that's a generalization02:04
seednodeAlso there are plenty of trolls on freenode02:05
dr_willisdarkbluecat:  find some other themes?02:05
seednodeAnd I'm sure porn if you looked02:05
darkbluecatdr_willis, I downloaded one, but the title bar wouldn't change02:05
cxipherdarkbluecat you may need a different theme selector. I had to download a program to get mine to change properly02:05
darkbluecatWhat did you use?02:06
dr_willisdarkbluecat:  themes are more like ;theme parts' one part controlls the window decoration, others controll inside the window widgits.. plus theres older gtk2 theme parts and gtk 3 theme parts.. so you may have to mixx and match. and ask in #xubuntu perhaps  i dont use xfce.02:06
baldfatseednode: well its not a private msgfrom people everytime I join a room. Also that wasn't a generalzation 10 years ago02:06
darkbluecatOh, ok :302:06
darkbluecatty very much02:06
seednodebaldfat, I can guarantee you that there were channels without porn or an unusual number of trolls 10 years ago02:07
seednodeSource: Me, being on IRC channels ten years ago02:07
darkbluecatIRC always was a big wasteland02:07
darkbluecatbut wastelands has "cleaner" places02:07
darkbluecator something like that02:07
* dr_willis points to the #ubuntu-offtopic channel02:07
cxipheranyone know default login on Ubuntu 12.04? I've read it's ubuntu no password but that isn't working for me.02:07
rcmaehlwhat's the command to extract a .zip to the current working directory?02:08
dr_williscxipher:  on a live cd?02:08
somsiprcmaehl: unzip {file}02:08
dr_willisrcmaehl:  unzip --help, it may be unzip -e or unzip -x..  i cheat and use 'unp'02:08
dr_willisunp foo.zip02:08
cxipherdr_willis not sure. i think it's a live cd but i am trying to install from it02:08
mauihi02:08
mauii keep installing the flash plugin to firefox/ubuntu02:08
mauibut i keep not being able to see some pages on flash:/02:09
dr_williscxipher:  ive never needed to use a password on a live cd.  the user name is ubuntu, with no password02:09
mauimozila says it downloads plugis but nothing ever improves02:09
mauiwhat can i do?02:09
cxiphernot working for me X_X02:09
mauiespecially shockwave i suspect doesnt work02:09
cxipher!flash02:09
dr_willismaui:  flash works on some sites but not others?02:09
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash02:09
mauiyes02:09
rcmaehlq02:10
rcmaehlwhoops02:10
dr_willishas shockwave ever worked on linux?  im trying to rember what shockwave even was..02:10
darkbluecatFor habbo02:10
darkbluecatwwwwwww02:10
cxipherdr_willis:  Trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 via a external CD drive on an ultrabook without an internal one - I've used the CD to install Ubuntu before on another PC. The installer starts but I get to the "login" screen without it ever asking me to set up a user and then no matter what I enter I can not log in. I've tried ubuntu:ubuntu admin:root root:user and every combination I can think of02:10
cxipher- nothing.02:10
Darkchaoscxipher: What do you think, is it more secure using Gnash than Adobe? Which one has bigger security holes?02:11
cxipherI used Gnash I think on mine.02:11
dr_williscxipher:  only time ive ever herd of someone having login issues on the live cd was when the live cd had issues.. could be its having issues reading the cd.    you may want to try making a boot usb to install from02:12
cxipherdr_willis thanks. I'll try LiLi02:12
cxipher!lili02:12
dr_williscxipher:  id suggest other tools from the pendrivelinux site.. ive had issues with lili in the past.. plus its ugly. ;)02:12
cxipherdr_willis thanks will do. It is ugly. I've also had issues with it before which is why I avoided it this time.02:13
dr_willisi perfer the tools that setup grub2 on a usb. and let me keep sevveral iso files on the same usb.02:13
mauii installed the packets recommendend on that link, but still have the probelm02:13
dr_willismaui:  what problems exactly? what sites work.. what dont?02:13
splitwiredr_willis I like that site; lots of good stuff there02:14
maui<param name="src" value="start.dcr">02:14
maui<param name="swRemote" value="swSaveEnabled='true' swVolume='false' swRestart='false' swPausePlay='false' swFastForward='false' swContextMenu='false' ">02:14
maui<param name="swStretchStyle" value="none">02:14
maui<param name="PlayerVersion" value="11">02:14
maui<param name="bgColor" value="#FFFFFF">02:14
FloodBot1maui: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:14
mauioh wel02:15
mauiits shockwave for ubuntu:/02:15
Darkchaosmaui: try out #flood02:15
dr_williswhat is shockwave? i recall flash and shockwave being 2 differnet things..02:16
mauime too02:16
mauithat is why maybe pages with shockwave do not work02:16
geniiUses active x or something02:16
mauibut flash works02:16
maui:/02:16
dr_willisand as far as i know shockwave has never been ported to linux.. or is even used much these days02:16
mauiits a government website for free open courseware that uses....shockwave:(02:16
mauibut you saw the code i pasted? its shockwave02:17
rcmaehlso yeah02:17
rcmaehlI figured out how to get League of Legends to work with Ubuntu 13.0402:17
rcmaehland now I'm making a patch for it for the forums02:17
maui<object codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/director/sw.cab#version=11lse' swPausePlay='false' swFastForward='false' swContextMenu='false' " swstretchstyle="none" type="application/x-director" playerversion="11" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/" height="768" width="1024">02:17
maui</object>02:17
FloodBot1maui: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:17
baldfatmaui: there are good cli programs to send standard output to paste.ubuntu.com02:18
baldfatrcmaehl: LOL just use PlayOnLinux but I get horrible lag on my mouse and bad fps02:20
mauiim installing throughwine;/02:20
rcmaehlI'm using wine02:21
rcmaehlinstead of playonlinux02:21
rcmaehlI updated an old patch for 11.1002:21
rcmaehlI get 30 fps02:21
dr_willisi would be suprised if shockwave worked in wine.02:21
dr_willisthere is that netflix-browser  thing thats running firefox in wine that might be able to also use shockwave... but that may tke some serious work02:22
mauii got instuctions from http://askubuntu.com/questions/48140/compatible-version-of-adobe-shockwave-player02:22
dr_willisthen theres those  'ie4wine' stuff02:22
dr_willismaui:  how old is that guide.02:22
mauii dont know02:22
dr_willisgood luck - is all i will say02:22
cxiphersooo02:24
maui:/02:24
cxipheri might have to stay on windows X_X02:24
dr_willisany site that is still using shockwave in this day and age... well....02:24
cxipheri use PS CS6 Extended daily and I don't know if I could get it running on Ubuntu.02:24
dr_willistheres always virtualbox02:25
dr_willisi tnd to avoide using adobe stuff whenever possible.02:25
cxipherYeah well Gimp sucks02:25
dr_willisbut im on android 90% of the time now.. rarely on a pc.02:25
dr_willisgimp works very well for me.. since i took the time and learned gimp.02:25
dr_willisinstead of spending time and learning PS. ;)02:26
cxipheryeah really do not want to have to teach myself all over again02:26
dr_willisthe very definitioon of  'vendor lock in'02:26
cxipherI've tried gimp, they make simple tasks WAY too difficult02:27
dr_willisand difficult tasks way to simple.02:27
dr_willis;)02:27
PuppyArubahi all02:27
cxiphere.x. the resize canvas and not image issue. plus none of my brushes would work in GIMP02:27
dr_willisHello PuppyAruba02:27
cxipherI do graphic design for a living, I can't stop using PS to learn GIMP02:27
mauiwhy doesnt mozila find the required plugin02:28
mauiit does search , it asks me if i want it to search for the right plugin, i click yes02:28
mauithen it goes on and on searching for ever...02:28
dr_willismaui  perhaps there is none for linux?02:28
mauiso i guess i should instlal windows?02:28
maui;/02:28
dr_williscxipher:  perhaps learn them both? i never said to stop.02:28
dr_willismaui:  do whatever you want.  dosent matter to us. theres vbox. and wine, and possible other tricks.02:29
cxipherdoes ubutu have a hosts file like windows does02:29
* dr_willis learned image editing on deluxe paint02:29
dr_williscxipher:  /etc/hosts02:29
somsipcxipher: /etc/hosts02:29
cxipherthx02:29
mauii tried wine, did not change anything02:30
mauii tried with oopera, same problem of course02:30
dr_willisbackup your hosts file befor messing with it. ;)02:30
mauioh great02:30
dr_willisopera hasent been in the news much lately. saw they had some email client comming out for linux02:30
somsipdr_willis: haven't they just released the new version based on chromium renderer?02:31
mauiis there a way to communicate with ppl who make programs for linux to inform them about lack of shockwave support in linux?!02:31
dr_willissomsip:  i havent really kept up.02:32
dr_willismaui:  ask adobe to support linux? but thats not goint to happen.02:32
somsipdr_willis: Mac and Windows only, and OT anyway http://is.gd/wjApH902:32
soy_el_pulpoask for support... not gonna happen02:32
dr_willishttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/05/opera-splits-mail-app-bringing-it-to-linux02:33
mauisomeone should find a solution, still many sites have shockwave02:33
somsip!ask | soy_el_pulpo02:33
ubottusoy_el_pulpo: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience02:33
dr_willisalways nice to have a new email app. ;) but i rarely use them these days02:33
dr_willismaui hasent happened in 5+ years i imagine and most sites have moved past shockwave.. and i imagine in 5 more years (or less) they will be beyone flash.. (i hope)02:34
somsipdr_willis: cheers, but firmly on mutt here02:34
soy_el_pulpowow, I meant that if you ask adobe for support on anything, it not going to happen... no matter which platform you use...02:34
* dr_willis has flash backs of 'realplayer'02:34
somsip!who | soy_el_pulpo02:34
ubottusoy_el_pulpo: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)02:34
dr_willisand annoying annoying banner ads..02:34
somsipsoy_el_pulpo: and then people misconstrue what you are saying ;-)02:35
soy_el_pulposomsip: ok02:35
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arowanaHi all02:40
utfans05herro!02:43
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sbejust looking for some assistance as to where I should be asking a question about Apache/SSL running on OpenSuse 12.3 ... any ideas?03:02
arthurdunawaywhats a host name03:03
Nom-Hey guys... hoping someone can direct me to the right info... i'm trying to make a custom package containing some code, and I'd like to scan the library dependencies from any .so files and add them to the package depends.  I'm aware dh_shlibdeps is made for that, but it doesn't seem to scan the files... do I need to pass it some args?03:03
cfhowlettsbe, ask in #suse ... this is ubuntu support.03:03
sbethx very much03:03
sbe(I was already joined there sadly)03:04
sbehostname: A hostname is a label that is assigned to a device connected to a computer network and that is used to identify the device in various03:04
sbe(see I give back)03:04
sbecfhowlett ... is there an apache-centric (spelling) channel you might recommend?03:08
sbe(as I doubt my issue is with the distro ... but possibly)03:09
cfhowlettsbe, I'm pretty sure there's an @apache channel but as I don't code, I don't have details.03:09
clctosbe: httpd03:10
sbeah thx clcto03:10
cfhowlett!cookie|clcto,03:10
ubottuclcto,: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!03:10
HexagoniteIs using Ubuntu without a graphics driver fine?03:12
sbewell httpd must be invite-only or something03:12
sbeor 'voice+' only or something - can't ask questions there03:12
sbe(cannot send to channel)03:13
clctosbe: you have to register with nickserv probably03:13
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HexagoniteSo, is it?03:14
holicow78hello03:14
holicow78hello03:14
holicow78hi03:14
clctoholicow78: depends what you are doing.03:15
SenjaiHello!03:16
HwkillerHexagonite: without a graphics driver? so a headless server then?03:16
Hwkilleror do you mean without the proprietary drivers?03:17
HexagoniteDeactivating the driver from 'Additional drivers'?03:17
Hwkillerah, ok. yes, it's fine.03:17
Hwkillerunless you do heavy gaming.03:17
hoyanghisto, some one use emacs? how to set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to emacs?03:17
HexagoniteWill it impact battery life?03:17
Hwkillerit might.03:17
HexagoniteNot doing heavy gaming, though.03:17
Hwkillernouveau (the foss driver for nvidia) doesn't support power saving for all cards.03:18
Hwkillernot sure about radeon.03:18
HexagoniteProprietary driver has a problem with Ubuntu though.03:19
Hwkillerwhat issue?03:19
Hwkillerand which version are you using?03:19
Hexagonitescreenshotting saves the last frozen shot03:19
Hexagonite12.04.203:19
HwkillerI mean which version of the driver, sorry.03:20
HexagoniteNot sure, I got the beta one from the proprietary drivers list.03:21
Hexagonitebut all versions give the same issue, it's not present in 13.04 though.03:21
Hwkillerhm.. not sure I had that issue when I ran 12.0403:21
Hwkillerdoes scrot work?03:22
Hexagonitenope. :(03:22
HwkillerI assume not... but it's worth a try03:22
Hwkillerbah03:22
Hwkillerwhich card do you have? check the nouveau site to see if it has power savings yet.03:22
Hexagoniteradeon hd 629003:22
Hwkilleroh... it's amd03:23
Hwkillernvm03:23
HwkillerI know nothing about amd, other than their drivers lag behind X to a major degree.03:23
HexagoniteI'll try deactivating it now, see if it impacts battery life03:23
HwkillerI'm not actually sure if the foss driver has any power saving.03:24
HwkillerI'm asking someone who would know03:24
deneliusI am attempting to move a folder from downloads to ~/opt with the following: sudo cp folder -r ~/opt it appears to be going somewhere but not to /opt am I missing something obvious?03:26
Hwkillerhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI#Powersaving according to this, it does have power saving.03:26
cfhowlettdenelius, look in your /home03:26
Hwkillerthe guy I asked says it does, but it's apparently a bit unreliable03:26
somsipdenelius: when you sudo, ~/ does not relate to youir home03:26
HexagoniteThe power saving make the system stutter sometimes03:27
somsipErmmm.03:27
Hexagonitehave to restart, brb03:27
deneliusits not in the home dir03:27
clctodenelius: look in the current directory03:28
somsipdenelius: sudo cp -r folder /home/denelius/opt03:28
clctoyeah i think -r should be before folder03:29
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deneliussomsip - ok so i ran that from the Downloads folder - again, it did something but nothing in the opt folder? I am very much a beginner so appreciate the patience03:32
somsipdenelius: what is the intended location. You refer to ~/opt and /opt03:33
deneliusI am confused between the two03:33
HexagoniteHow do you delete installation packages?03:34
Hexagoniteautoclean && clean doesn't work.03:34
somsipdenelius: /opt is a subdirectory in the root (/) directory. ~/opt is a subdirectory to your home directory, which will be at /home/denelius. So /home/denelius/opt (assume your username is denelius)03:34
deneliusI am looking in usr/opt03:34
cfhowlettHexagonite, debs you mean?03:34
somsipdenelius: that is not a standard subdirectory. If it was, it would be /usr/opt03:35
HexagoniteYes, when I re-install a package, it doesn't download it anymore, since it's still there.03:35
somsipdenelius: what are you tryint to install?03:35
deneliusso I have read to place applications in opt - im assuming that would be within my user profile?03:35
cfhowlettHexagonite, well sudo dpkg -r will uninstall.  as for the package ...03:35
somsipdenelius: use the full path when taking about directories to avoid confusing. Either /opt or ~/opt or /usr/opt (last one is not recommended)03:36
qinHexagonite: apt-get purge && apt-get autoclean03:36
clctodenelius: may i ask why you are trying to add to opt?03:36
somsipdenelius: and as clcto says, what are you trying to intall?03:37
yax51hello03:37
clctoo/03:37
denelius I read if you need an application that is not packaged, and all users on the system should be able to use it, it should go into /usr/local/bin or in a directory under /opt03:38
yax51can anyone walk me through installing steam on wine?03:38
Hexagoniteapt-get purge && apt-get autoclean doesn't do it.03:38
cfhowlettyax51, wine?  steam will run on ubuntu, you know ...03:38
deneliuswhere to put android-studio download03:38
qindenelius: you have native linux steam03:38
Hexagonitewhen installing Inkscape, it still says '600kb/30mb'.03:39
Hwkiller... and not everythng runs on it yet, guys03:39
rcmaehlsteam has a native client for linux03:39
somsipdenelius: that is correct. So sudo cp -r android-studio /opt03:39
somsipdenelius: or sudo mv android-studio /opt as you don't need to keep the original03:39
clctorcmaehl: but it doenst have all the games, a small subset03:39
qinand frankly, you just need to chmod and link ~/.wine between users03:39
Hwkilleryax51: if you need a steam game that isn't on native steam yet, I recommend just installing steam through play on linux. It helps manage wine prefixes and settings03:39
yax51cfhowlett: yes but doesnt support borderlands 2 :P03:40
yax51hwkiller: I forgot about pol...I'll check it out thanks03:40
Hwkillernp.03:40
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deneliussomsip - that did the trick - thank you and others for the assistance much appreciated - i will try to learn more on linux paths03:42
somsipdenelius: do you want help to create the shortcut too?03:42
clctodenelius: ~ refers to current user home, ~<username> is <username>'s home03:43
ShutemDownHello volunteers.... When I open up iptables in vim, I get garbled text and can't read it.  Anyone know what this could be?03:43
soy_el_pulpoShutemDown: how do you open them? what you mean by that?03:44
ShutemDownvim iptables (as root)03:44
soy_el_pulpommm03:44
qinoh03:44
soy_el_pulpoShutemDown: not suposed to do that...03:44
deneliusI think i have that sorted actually - im about to setup the .desktop03:44
somsipShutemDown: I don't think you edit them like that. Try this http://is.gd/Pgw1J803:44
soy_el_pulpoShutemDown: sudo iptables -L03:44
ShutemDownkk03:44
somsipdenelius: ok. If you're using desktop shortcuts, someone else will have to help as I have no idea03:45
ShutemDownthanks guys03:46
qinShutemDown: what do you plan to do, btw?03:46
deneliussomsip if you have an alternative and some time im up for learning03:46
darwin_hey guys, I have an ati video card, installed ubuntu 12.4 LTS not long ago, normal video config worked but looked a bit dusty so I was trying to install ati privative drivers what broke my video. Anyway I can sort from live CD without reinstalling03:47
darwin_ Radeon 4200 series in case u wonder03:47
soy_el_pulpoShutemDown: try ufw03:47
ShutemDowncheck to see if there are any rules in place, and if i want to add some rules03:47
somsipdenelius: if you use Unity, then I guess a desktop shortcut is useful. I have softlinks in /usr/local/bin that point to the executables in any packages installed to /opt so I can run them from command line and dmenu. Maybe not what you need though03:47
clctodarwin_: mount the / partition, chroot into it and the uninistall the proprietray drivers03:48
dr_willisactually if you booted to text mode. you should be able to ininstall it also03:48
dr_willis!text03:49
soy_el_pulpotrue03:49
ubottuTo start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode03:49
deneliusI hear you, possibly not, I will try the .desktop - thank you for the assistance03:49
darwin_clcto, I have the partition mounted, how do I chroot into it?03:49
somsipdenelius: np03:49
ShutemDownsoy_el_pulpo:  is that the preferred way to edit iptables?03:49
clctodarwin_: you open a terminal and type chroot /path/to/where/it/is/mounted03:49
soy_el_pulpoShutemDown: some people like it better...03:50
ShutemDownk, I'll give it a shot thanks03:50
soy_el_pulpoShutemDown: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UncomplicatedFirewall03:50
soy_el_pulpoShutemDown: or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW03:50
soy_el_pulpo\help shortcuts03:51
soy_el_pulpodr_willis: where i can find a list of the !commands?03:52
qin!bot03:52
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soy_el_pulpothanks guys03:53
deneliussomsip: a final question /usr/opt/android-studio/bin/studio.sh in my .desktop file is that correct?03:54
somsipdenelius: The correct path is just just /opt/android...etc03:55
soy_el_pulpodenelius: what are you trying to do?03:57
dr_willislook at an existing   whatevr.desktop file for exxamples    ie:   gedit.desktop03:58
soy_el_pulpo.desktop is a folder03:58
deneliusI am trying to setup a desktop file to run android studio which resides in /opt03:59
soy_el_pulpo?03:59
somsipdenelius: the path is as I gave you. Just /opt/android...and then as you had it before. i have no idea how a .desktop file should be setup thought so will leave it to an other03:59
soy_el_pulpodenelius: can you browse to the location? then right click and drag it to the desktop as a shotcut04:00
deneliusk thanks04:00
somsip*though04:00
deneliusI would like it to be referenced as an application in the dash home for unity04:00
darwin_clcto, ok its done I used http://askubuntu.com/questions/68306/how-do-i-remove-the-propretary-ati-drivers anything I can do to double-check it will work before rebooting?04:01
soy_el_pulpodarwin_: pray? lol04:02
deneliusonce you have placed a .desktop file in applications do you need to restart in order for the file to take effect?04:02
qindenelius: what does studio.sh? it looks like wrapper04:02
deneliusit runs the android-studio app04:02
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qindenelius: is it java app?04:03
somsipdenelius: this might help http://is.gd/jxUrtm04:03
somsipqin: requires Java, so expect so04:04
darwin_soy_el_pulpo, XD04:04
darwin_ok will reboot and see how it works04:04
somsipdenelius: does it work from a terminal okay first to make sure you have it setup ok?04:04
deneliusim getting a permission denied when trying to cd into folder in opt04:07
voxel_sorry to randomly spam a link, but if there are any facebook users in here that want to help convince a girl to get a pikachu tattoo, could you please like this post? https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152909655630574&set=a.10151065211625574.775986.519380573&type=1 it's for a good cause, pokemon tattoos that you wear for the rest of your life are always a good idea.04:07
somsipdenelius: that's why I add symlinks in /usr/local/bin. I forgot about that when i suggested you check it first04:07
somsipvoxel_: this is not the place04:08
voxel_somsip: years of on and off support in here, i've earned one spammy link post.04:08
voxel_but thanks for your concern.04:09
somsipvoxel_: if you've been here for years, you should know the rules04:09
* voxel_ yawns04:09
IdleOnevoxel_: no you haven't. Please don't spam any links in here.04:09
voxel_not going to argue with a lurker. anyway, it's for a good cause, i apologised in advance, it's done now and i'm off on my way. you'll survive.04:10
qinvoxel_: will wait for 19904:10
paramcan't install apache2 , ran the command sudo apt-get install apache2   it run successfully, but when i run whereis apache2 command , i dont find anything installed04:12
dr_willisperhaps the command is not apache2 ?04:12
dr_willis!find apache304:12
dr_willis!find apache204:12
ubottuFile apache3 found in openvas-plugins-dfsg04:12
ubottuFound: apache2, apache2-doc, apache2-mpm-event, apache2-mpm-prefork, apache2-mpm-worker, apache2-prefork-dev, apache2-threaded-dev, apache2-utils, apache2.2-bin, apache2.2-common (and 98 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=apache2&searchon=names&suite=raring&section=all04:12
paramok let met me give a try04:13
dr_willissudo service http start      to start the web server perhaps?04:13
somsipparam: sudo service apache2 start (is whereis updated immediately after install?)04:14
overdubsudo service apache2 start < works on my ubuntu04:14
paramno04:14
harrisi am the only user and my dropbox folder is locked saying root access only which i am04:14
paramits isn't updated04:14
harrishow can i open it04:14
harrisand change the permissions04:14
cfhowlettharris, yeesh.  weird.  I'd delete/purge and then reinstall.04:14
TempusFugit32_Hello all.... can anyone tell me how to change a pw with nickserv?04:15
harriswith what04:15
harrissudo apt-get remove dropbox04:15
cfhowlettharris, sudo apt-get purge dropbox04:15
harristhen what04:16
harrisit says the package dropbox is not installed04:16
cfhowlettharris, depends on how you installed dropbox.  I got it directly from the site and did some dpkg stuff.04:16
harrisi did the terminal codes from the site04:16
TempusFugit32_just registered this nick and my syntax was wrong so i need to fix my pw with freennode04:16
dr_willisth package name may not be 'dropbox'04:17
IdleOneTempusFugit32_: #freenode can help04:17
TempusFugit32_IdleOne: thank you04:17
cfhowlettharris, there it is.  do so again and follow the onsite tutorial to get it up and running on your system.  Interesting fact: I installed DB months ago and only JUST found out that it wasn't updating since I had not configured it to do so.  Use the online tutorial.04:17
soy_el_pulpoparam: sudo updatedb first04:19
paramok04:19
paramupdatedb: unexpected operand on command line04:20
dr_willis'sudo updatedb'04:20
michalchikAnybody have experience with steam on Ubuntu?04:20
soy_el_pulpoparam: you didnt type the "first"? did you?04:20
paramsorry , i typed :p now running04:21
dr_willismichalchik:  it works ;) for me04:21
soy_el_pulpolol04:21
paramok i ran the command04:21
Hexagonitegames on Steam lag a lot on me04:21
paramnow what to run next04:21
michalchikI am wondering if I have to restrict my search to ;linux games, or if the steam platform supports games not written for linux04:21
harrisok ty gtg04:21
dr_willismlinux native games04:21
soy_el_pulpoparam: what you want to do?04:21
dr_willisit does not support wine04:22
soy_el_pulpoparam: "locate apache2"04:22
soy_el_pulpoparam: "locate apache2|less"04:23
vetwangcn. RMK. What is the difference between MK?04:25
vetwangcn. RMK. What is the difference between MK?04:27
vetwangcn. RMK  What is the difference between  .MK?04:28
vetwangcn. RMK  What is the difference between  .MK?04:29
vetwangcn. RMK  What is the difference between  .MK?04:30
IdleOne!repeat | vetwangcn04:31
ubottuvetwangcn: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/04:31
w7anhi, i am on windows 7 now. and i installed ubuntu a few months ago successfully, running. and now when i try to boot with ubuntu, it says, wubildr.mbr is missing or corrupt.. ::: status : 0xc000000e04:34
jayantr7I bought my new laptop (HP Probook 4540s - i5 3210m+Hybrid GPU (Radeon HD 7650m+HD 4000)), and ditched the sucking Windows 8 installation for Ubuntu 13.04. I'm a linux beginner :P. I can't control the brightness (done via fn+f1/f2 or from system settings) in Ubuntu (It worked in Win8 and OpenSUSE). The default brightness is set as max. I looked on the web for solutions. Many are currently incomprehensible to me. But still, I tried many solutions listed.04:35
jayantr7 Nothing worked. Some people said "xgamma -gamma" commands would do, but it's not a real solution. Any other way? Or am I missing something?04:35
cfhowlettw7an, and you installed via wubi, i.e. windows installer, yes?04:35
dreambirdhey has anyone seen a guy that talks a lot about cnn or news stuff i havent seen him in a while almost like a crazy guy04:35
clctojayantr7: xbrightness [+-=]<percentage>04:36
cfhowlettdreambird, ?  what has this to do with ubuntu support?04:36
dreambirdi was just looking on different servers04:36
woersdhello everyone! I just made a huge mistake!!! I used to have 2 main users in my pc here, and I wanted to change their uid. I made it with kuser. When I closed it and reboot, I cant access anything anymore. I found somethings in web, but I think it just keep worse...04:36
woersdcan anyone help me?04:36
cfhowlettwoersd, can't access means what?04:37
woersdmeans that I cant login04:37
cfhowlettwoersd, can you boot the repair option?04:37
woersdcfhowlett: you mean dpkg?04:37
cfhowlettwoersd, i.e. no.  can you get a login to a terminal; single user / repair via grub menu04:38
edenistis anyone else having issues with the AU ubuntu repo mirror?04:38
woersdcfhowlett: I can boot in a recovery mode04:38
cfhowlettwoersd, there it is.  If you can see that, you can likely repassword and then login.04:38
cfhowlett!password|woersd,04:38
ubottuwoersd,: Forgot your password? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords04:38
SharadMuser@zombster:/octopress$ sudo init04:39
SharadM[sudo] password for user:04:39
SharadMuser is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.04:39
SharadMwhere is this sudoers file? how to add a user to it?04:39
FloodBot1SharadM: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:39
woersdcfhowlett: actually now Im using a live cd to boot04:39
qinSharadM: who is init?04:39
cfhowlettwoersd, not the same thing ... but OK.  see the link I sent04:39
woersdcfhowlett: but why password? the problem isnt with the uid?04:40
SharadMFloodBot1, got it04:40
paranoidphreakhi everybody, i want to replace firestarter with gufw firewall; do i have to do anything before installing gufw or all i need to do is uninstall firestarter and install gufw?04:40
cfhowlettwoersd, ask in the channel again.  I don't have enough expertise to fix a uid issue.  The only time I've done so is when uid was changed after re-partitioing04:41
cfhowlett*re-partitioning*04:41
woersdcfhowlett: ok! thanks anyway!!04:41
soy_el_pulpoparanoidphreak: write down your rules04:41
jdlahmannHi all, I am new here04:42
cfhowlettjdlahmann, greetings and welcome04:42
woersdHey guys, can anyone help me with a uid problem? I`m kind of terrified..04:43
qinwoersd: use recovery root shell and create new user with adduser to have access to system, add new user to admin group, backup data, and http://askubuntu.com/questions/16700/how-can-i-change-my-own-user-id04:45
xrosnighthello . Anyone knows "why i can't see any icons on my desktop"? I can't drag or select anything there? ubuntu unity. How to fix it ??04:45
cfhowlett!details|woersd,04:45
ubottuwoersd,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."04:45
woersdqin: when I try to adduser it says that cannot determine your user name. Permission denied04:46
soy_el_pulpohow do i register my nick? I tried this but haven't got the email confirmation yet...04:47
qinwoersd: adduser backupuser (from root shell do not work?)04:47
soy_el_pulpothis:http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup04:47
paranoidphreaksoy_el_pulpo: i haven't created custom rules yet; is there a way to reset the iptables to when i first installed the OS?04:48
somsip!register | soy_el_pulpo or ask in #freenode if you're having problems (I think)04:48
ubottusoy_el_pulpo or ask in #freenode if you're having problems (I think): Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode04:48
qinwoersd: do not use live-cd for it04:48
woersdubottu: I had a problem with my permissions in a new user which I was trying to configure. Then I decided to change theirs uid to change the permissions, which was a big stupid idea. I`m using an Ubuntu 12.04 btw04:48
ubottuwoersd: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)04:48
xrosnightI have a problem with desktop environment, I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04  I tried to install gnome3 but failed, I tried to get the unity back. i also installed cairo but i purged it. then i came to unity but i can't select anything on my desktop.   how to fix it??  Thanks ubottu04:48
soy_el_pulposomsip: thanks04:48
woersdqin: but with the live cd I`m doing a chroot04:49
soy_el_pulpoparanoidphreak: sudo iptables -L04:49
qinwoersd: why?04:49
xrosnightanyone knows how to fix it?04:49
woersdqin: like that I thought I could add an user04:49
paranoidphreaksoy_el_pulpo: so, that's all i have to do and just replace firestarter with gufw?04:50
qinwoersd: well, all should be limited to: usermod, but you want to do it in steps04:50
paranoidphreaksoy_el_pulpo: after reseting the iptables04:50
qinwoersd: from recovery mode04:50
xrosnighthow to fix it? anyone knows ? Thanks04:50
soy_el_pulpoparanoidphreak: never used firestarter?04:51
soy_el_pulpoparanoidphreak: iptables -L will list your current rules, if any04:51
woersdqin: but actually I tried `usermod -1000 myuser` and it said that it couldnt lock /etc/passwd04:51
stevenhm is there a way to list all packages from a particular source source in apt?04:51
paranoidphreaksoy_el_pulpo: thanks04:52
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stevencli only btw04:52
cfhowlettsteven, dpkg -l04:52
soy_el_pulpoparanoidphreak: pleasure04:52
qinwoersd: did you try to usermod from chroot?04:52
woersdqin: yes and it says that my user dont exist04:52
stevencfhowlett: not installed yet, I added a source to upgrade a few packages but it seems like aptitude is ignoring it04:53
stevenso I wanted to find a way to see what packages are actually in the repository04:53
qinwoersd: and 'usermod -1000 myuser' is wrong: usermod -u 1000 myuser, do it from recovery mode, please.04:53
xrosnighti fixed it with " gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons true04:54
xrosnight "04:54
woersdqin: yes sorry. I did like that04:54
xrosnightno one helps me but i do.04:54
qinwoersd: don't panic04:54
woersdqin: `usermod -u New_uid username`04:54
qinwoersd: firstly create new user, and backup04:54
stevencfhowlett: nevermind I used the aptitude dialog and it shows the packages04:55
stevenhm .. my puppet script must be have an issue then..04:55
steventhanks anyway04:55
woersdqin: what if I cant create a new user?04:55
woersdqin: I think I broke the /etc/passwd04:56
qinwoersd: are you doing it from chroot?04:56
woersdqin: when I try to run it from the chroot live cd it just shows me 2 lines now04:56
woersdqin: and there is a file called /etc/.passwd.swp04:56
woersdqin: I was trying to do it from chroot to come to irc at the same time04:57
puffHm, my / partition is full (20 out of 20G in use).  Sudo apt-get clean doesn't free up significant space.  There was 2.2 GB free last night, wonder what sucked up the space.04:57
qinwoersd: ok, forgot chroot, reboot into recovery mode, drop to root shell and create new user04:57
cfhowlettpuff, sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean04:57
qinwoersd: swp is vim backup file04:58
woersdqin: ok, I`ll do it.04:58
woersdqin: yes, so I will have to restore my /etc/passwd later right? how?04:58
qinwoersd: hopefully not04:59
IdleOnepuff: remove some old kernels. check /var/log you can probably delete most of that too.04:59
woersdqin: ok. Thanks A LOT qin, I`ll try to adduser, if I cannot I`ll come back! =)05:00
puffIdleOne: Where are the old kernels?05:00
qinwoersd: see you05:00
IdleOnepuff: you can use software center to show which are installed and delete. make sure you keep the highest version number installed.05:00
puffIdleOne: /var/cache seems to be the biggest culprit in var.05:01
IdleOneerr not delete but uninstall05:01
Gabbozpuff, its a good idea to keep the current and the last successful kernel installed05:01
IdleOnepuff: should be safe to delete cache05:01
ghillike Gabboz says, always keep a version down of the kernel. Just in case something goes horribly wrong.05:02
driiperHello! Do anyone know which partition type i should use for mye 3 TB hard drive if i want it to be compatible with both Ubuntu and Windows?05:03
speccy88Ntfs05:04
ghilsadly, I think the answer is still NTFS.05:04
ghilWindows doesn't support much in filesystems.05:04
puffdriiper: Yeah, I just went through that and I ended up sing ntfs.05:04
speccy88Exfat? :)05:04
ghilthere's ways and apps to access Ext partitions on Windows, but it's sketchy.05:04
puffdriiper: mac and linux are supposed to be pretty good with ntfs, and windows sucks with everything else, so.05:04
Gabbozdriiper, if you install windows first, let it take the whole HD.. then when you do your ubuntu install you can take what you need from the win partition05:04
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Gabbozpuff, that said, ntfs-3g is not perfect :)05:05
puffIdleOne: Hm, /var/cache/apt is the big culprit.05:05
driiperexfat (7) doesnt seem to work, it only gets to use 1 TB.  ive tried somthing called NTFS VOLUME SET (86/87) but i dont know what those are05:05
woersdqin: hey, its me again05:05
ghilit's not perfect but it's a lot better than the alternatives.05:05
qinwoersd: from livecd05:05
woersdqin: I cannot even run the root shell. it says `su login failed` cant find passwd file05:06
driiperso my best bet would be to partition it from a Windows computer?05:06
woersdqin: no from the recovery mode05:06
ghilyes.05:06
ghilNTFS, from Windows. It'll get recognized by ubuntu.05:06
TroLLBanhey helpful geeks ! i cant get Vuze/Azureus to run correctly die to my noobie level of how to set up stuff on Linux/Ubuntu OS. i have Vuze installed , but when i run it it just sits idle. maybe i have to add the search templates or whatever. , or just use Ubuntu software center and choose a bitTorrent client from that list , such as qBittorrent? please advise and no trashing me please for using bittorrent for dev purposes only .05:06
Gabbozdriiper, yes05:06
Gabbozdriiper, are you dealing with an empty 3Tb HDD right now?05:07
qinwoersd: what says: cat /etc/passwd ?05:07
driiperGabooz: yes05:07
Gabbozdriiper, .. as i said, install windows.. let it take the whole 3Tb05:07
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driiperYeh ill do that :) thanks!05:07
Gabbozdriiper, then install ubuntu and it will offer what to do.. take out what you need./05:07
woersdqin: let me see05:07
Ben64!torrent | TroLLBan05:07
ubottuTroLLBan: Some torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus/Vuse (Java), !Frostwire (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/help/faq - See also !P2P05:07
ghilTroLLban: you would be better served with something like Deluge or Transmission.05:08
qinwoersd: or file you mentioned, .passwd.swp05:08
ghilif you want to go CLI, go for rTorrent.05:08
ghilDeluge is easy and works great though :)05:08
TroLLBanghil: ok , so how  to grt Deluge and set it up etc ?05:08
Ben64ubuntu software center to get it05:09
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TroLLBanBen64: ok let me check software center again05:09
ghilas simple as the UBS, or in a terminal, type sudo apt-get install deluge05:09
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ghilherr... USC, not UBS. o.O05:09
TroLLBanghil: and once installed , i have to add the search templates right ?05:10
woersdqin: the backup was in passwd.bak05:10
woersdqin: I`ll pastebin05:10
ghilyep.05:10
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ghilWell, one in the morning, time to go to bed. See you all tomorrow!05:11
Gabbozciao05:11
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qinwoersd: lets try to *copy* it into place of nonexistent /etc/passwd05:11
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woersdqin: yes. how could I do that? copy and rename?05:12
woersdqin: and replace05:12
qinwoersd: cp passwd.bak /etc/passwd05:12
woersdqin: here is the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/h0ppvQn205:12
puffIdleOne: Hm, I've never used software center before (I just use aptitude most of the time). How do I get it to list kernels?05:12
puffIdleOne: If I put kernel in the search field, I get a bunch of junk.05:13
woersdok it worked05:13
Gabbozpuff, in the shell you can type, dpkg --list | grep linux-image05:13
qinwoersd: file looks ok05:13
TroLLBanok i aminstalling deluge right now . does anyone know if i have to add the template sites like piratebay or are they already ? or what ? i have only ever used Vuze on windows and you have toanually add the known sites like KAT or piratebay..?05:14
GabbozTroLLBan, thats outside the scope of this channel05:14
qinwoersd: adduser somefancyname05:14
puffGabboz: Thanks.05:14
qinwoersd: worked?05:14
woersdqin: yes. So if I want to rechange the uid, I mean fix my mistake, I need to set my uid just in this file?05:14
qinwoersd: no.05:15
TroLLBanGabboz: yeah ok respect05:15
qinwoersd: use usermod05:15
puffGabboz: Ah, yeah, got about 20 different kernal packages.05:15
woersdqin: ok05:15
woersdI`ll try it again so!05:16
Gabbozpuff, if you want a lazy, effective way of keeping the system clean, use ubuntu tweak's janitor05:16
woersdqin: thanks again! I`ll reboot to see what I can do now.. hehe05:16
Gabbozpuff, its nice to know how to do by hand but if an app can do it, so be it :)05:16
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pvl1whats a good flavor of ubuntu for a fairly old laptop05:18
tripelb21204, unity. How do I see the cd-drive in nautilus? Terminal? I know lspci,  lsusb but nada. help shows no ls, ls* in its list. Huh?05:18
qinpvl1: lubuntu?05:18
pvl1qin: thats what im going for atm05:19
qintripelb2: yuo mean device or contents?05:19
Gabboztripelb2, with a cd/dvd in the drive already?05:20
puffGabboz: ugh, tried using apt to remove some old linux-images, but got an error, guess apt isn't happy with 0 disk space.05:22
clctopvl1: server, and then install a WM05:22
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tripelb21204 I put a cd in drive a.d nothing shows on screen. How can I plY05:22
azbarceatripelb2: do you see the automount icon in the right down corner?05:24
azbarceatripelb2: you may also try to see if automount mounted your device in /media/something (usually is /media/cdrom)05:24
dr_williswhat kind of cd?05:25
dr_willispvl1:  lubuntu is the lightest 'full featurd' desktop ubuntu offers05:26
TroLLBanwell , Transmission obviously comes with Ubuntu 13.04 and is working just fine ... different in concept from what i was doing before , but same idea. good way for me and my friends to share large files .. thanks geeks05:26
DouglasKpvl1, if you have anything that doesn't like a compositing window manager, lubuntu is a great choice.  xbmc, for example, doesn't like compositing window managers much.05:27
dr_willisyou can set xbmc to launch with no window maanger i belive. ;) at least i have a xbmc session on my pc.05:28
puffGabboz: Hm, the way my drive is set up, / is the last partition.  Physical partitions are uefi, boot, swap, and then extended partition containing /oldroot, /home, /bulkdata, then the new /.  Could I shrink /bulkdata and grow new / into some of that space?05:28
DouglasKdr_willis, yup, that's how it's set... it's the xwindows 'session manager' for that login. :)05:29
puffGabboz: That is, a couple days ago I resized /bulkdata to be 40Gb smaller, so there's now an empty 40GB partition between /bulkdata and /.  So could I remove that empty partition and then grow / into some of that unallocated space?05:29
Gabbozpuff, you probably could but back anything you care about up first :)05:30
walltenderWhere shall I start to look at when my system fail to shut down?05:30
dr_willisbackup befor resizeing filesystems = good idea05:30
dr_willisthen gparted from a live cd to resize /05:31
puffdr_willis: that's what I was doing when / filled up and rsync started erroring.05:32
puffThough last night I did a dd image of the entire physical drive.05:32
puffSo I should be fairly safe.05:32
puffMan, I can't wait for that 256GB MSATA SSD to get here...05:33
dr_willisdid you backup your backups? ;)05:33
knivezhi there05:33
puffdr_willis: Yes, actually, but they were old backups.05:33
puffdr_willis: The /bulkdata partition has a /backups directory :-).05:33
puffso how safe is it to do "rm -rf /var/cache/*"?05:34
dr_willisi think that could break apt badly05:36
SrPxwhat is the fastest way I can ssh into a friend's ubuntu so i can fix some stuff?  sudo apt-get install openssh-server openssh-client? is that it, or does it need something before i can login? like authorizedusers05:36
TroLLBansince i installed Ubuntu 13.04 and chose to keep windows pre existing OS to "run alongside" during install and chose a partition . apparently the best way to "get rid" of windows is to/ create an Ubuntu Usb boot drive again, and run it from usb , then using Gnome something or other to format that partition. the reason stated is that re partitioning hard drive from within a shell is risky for newbs . does that sound correct ? or 05:36
puffSrPx: I think that should do it.  Try it and see.05:36
dr_willisSrPx:  if hes behind a router - he will need to enable port forwarding to the ssh machine05:36
SrPxoh ok05:36
SrPxbad :/05:36
* puff cobbles together a massive apt purge of a dozen linux kernels. "This should free up 1.8GB, so..."05:37
dodo3773puff: After you remove a few files look into a program called "ncdu" if you haven't yet. Then "sudo ncdu /" will tell you whats using the most space. I was able to find a large amount of junk files on my / that way05:37
SrPxdr_willis: port 23?05:37
dr_willisit can be any port you got ssh set to work in.05:37
puffdr_willis: I always wanted to cobble together some sort of app to do reverse port forwarding.05:37
DouglasKSrPx, 2205:37
SrPxok05:37
puffdr_willis: come to think of it, that'd be pretty easy to set up with ssh...05:37
dr_willisrouter could forwar port 1234 to 22 internally ;)05:37
puffdodo3773: Thanks.05:37
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puffdr_willis, SrPx:  If there's a public internet linux box you both have access to, he could issue an ssh command and portforward some port on that box back to his Ubuntu box. Then you'd ssh to that forwarded port on the public box.05:38
puffSrPx: Or you could just tweak his router config.05:38
puffyay, after removing 1.8GB I have 1.4 GB free.  Wtf?05:39
puffGuess I'll try out ncdu.05:39
SrPxpuff: how I could tweak his router?05:39
dodo3773puff: You're welcome. Saved me a lot of time / space when doing my backups. Turns out /var can hold a lot of junk05:40
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puffSrPx: You'd have to ask him to do it.05:41
SrPxpuff: he don't know... the problem is that explaining him all stuff is taking long05:41
puffSrPx: Tweak his router == go to his house, bring up his router's web admin user interface, configure his router to portforward port 22 on his public IP address to his desktop's internal IP address.05:42
SrPxI see05:42
puffSrPx: Well, in that case, maybe you could try what I suggested with ssh portforwarding.05:42
puffSrPx: Are you familiar with ssh portforwarding?05:42
SrPxnot sure how I could do that,05:42
SrPxno!05:42
puffAh, well... it's pretty neat.  This would depend on him managing to install the ssh server on his box (the ssh client should already be installed").05:43
dr_willisif he has a working gui. then theres always teamviewer05:43
dr_willisthen you can set up his ports for him and test from your end whole waatching teamviewer05:43
puffSrPx: I have no idea what teamviewer is, but if it's meant to solve this sort of problem, you're probably better off using it :-).05:43
aMonikerMy Ubuntu 12.04 server running in a VM keeps freezing after 10-30 minutes05:44
puffSrPx: Basically, when you run an ssh command, you can also include command line parameters that ask the ssh process on both ends to forward packets to/from your box and the remote box.05:44
aMonikerHow can I diagnose this?05:44
SrPxpuff: thanks but we've tried, it's unusably slow05:44
SrPxwell guess we will give up and wait till we meet05:44
TroLLBani just plugged an external hdd into Ubuntu, and i see 2 folders that never showed up in Windows explorr. the first is called "$Recycle.Bin" - and "Sustem Volume Information" should i keep these 2 other folders? what are they? is this normal?05:45
dr_willisteamviewer = a remote desktop app that uses a middleman server to let you get to the other machine05:45
dr_willisTroLLBan:  those are windows specific directories i belive.05:45
dr_willisones the crash :) and the other has system specific info for that drive05:46
dr_willistrash05:46
clctoTroLLBan: they are hidden in windows. In windows, a file/folder has a hidden attribute, in linux if it starts with a . its hidden05:46
TroLLBandr_willis: so deleting them is ok ?05:46
dr_willisask in #windows if its ok.05:46
dr_willisrecuclebin = your trashcan05:46
clctoTroLLBan: are you going to use windows? i think they are recreated in windows05:46
dr_willisif you are using the thing on windows macjhines.. leave them05:47
puffSrPx: Good luck.05:47
TroLLBanclcto: i get it . if i delete them then Windows will just recreat them later if neede . got it . thamks05:47
knivezwhy do windows grey out in ubuntu?05:47
knivezwhat does that mean?05:47
uwgray out where?05:48
tripelbSOLVED. Only a cd drive and I put in a dvd. Still dont know how to see yhe view I want. Sorry but it is the My Computer view. I dont jnow the proper linux name for it.05:48
dr_willisknivez:  bcause they are hungwaiting and its showing you this...  they come back when they unhung/stop waiting05:48
knivezdr_willis: ok ok05:48
knivezI am moving a huge ammount of files05:48
knivezubuntu doesnt like this05:48
puffHm, okay, so ncdu doesn't really show me any good culprits, I think I need to just add more space to /05:48
aMonikerI don't see anything in syslog that would indicate why it's freezing.05:48
SrPxputhakns al ot!05:49
dr_willisi move huge amounts of files all the time.. ;) works better in linux/ubuntu then it does in windows.05:49
knivezagreed05:49
knivezbut stillllll05:49
puffknivez: Also, depends on how you're moving them.05:49
puffknivez: And what you mean by "moving".05:49
dr_willisnautilus Queues them up i belive.. windows tries to do   them at once,, then adds more05:49
puffknivez: For example, if you're scp'ing a zillion little files, then you're having ssh open and close a zillion times.  You're probably better off using rsync or something else.05:50
dr_willisdrag/drop 4 in windows, then 4 more.. it can cause all sorts of slowness.05:50
kenzo450Dhi, i am trying to edit the crontab file using crontab -e, but i get this error everytime http://pastebin.com/Pm11r9m005:50
dr_willisbbl05:50
knivezi am moving them from one drive to anotgher so i can format this drive05:50
knivezI am contemplating moving the music as well but im not sure05:50
puffknivez: In general, for moving really large collections of files across partitions or networks, I really strongly recommend rsync...05:50
knivezwhat is that?05:50
knivezwhy do you reccomend it?05:51
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TroLLBanyou guys are great i love you all . bbl for sure05:51
puffknivez: Rsync is a smart copying tool originally designed to help maintain mirrors.05:51
puffknivez:  The basic operation of rsync is to say, "okay, make that directory of files over there look like this directory over here".05:52
knivezpuff: why is it better than standard xfering of files?05:53
puffknivez:  The nice part about using it for movnig large sets is that you can start it, and then kill if halfway through, then re-run it again and it will avoid copying stuff twice.05:53
knivezah that seems useful05:53
puffknivez: The biggest advantage of rsync is that it examines files and avoids copying data (or files) if it doesn't need to.05:53
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puffknivez: So I can rsync a huge fileset over to a new drive, or over the network to a new machine.  If it ends up taking forever, I can kill it and then I can re-run it later and it starts where it left off.  After I'm done I can re-run it again and it will tell me if everything is identical or not.05:55
puffknivez: I wrote a little tutorial, here:  http://www.darksleep.com/notablog/articles/Rsync_Enough_Rope05:55
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puffknivez: Good luck, I have to idle and resize this partition now...05:56
knivezty05:56
knivezcatch you later05:56
histoknivez: I would just use rsync as well05:57
histoknivez: rsync -a --progress /path/to/files  /where/you/want/them05:57
Phryqanyone able to help me with this? http://pastie.org/798739405:57
betraydparam just open synaptic and look for where it installed apache stuff05:58
knivez Im already done with both, but I will get rsync for next time and read the tutoral, but why does xfering files lag my computer so much?05:58
histoPhryq: what are you tyring to install?05:58
Phryqit's a brand new install of Ubuntu 13.04, I went to the language support, it told me I needed to install some language support stuff, and I clicked yes05:58
histo!info libreoffice-help-en-gb05:58
ubottulibreoffice-help-en-gb (source: libreoffice): office productivity suite -- English_british help. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.0.2-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 5170 kB, installed size 21064 kB05:58
histoPhryq: sudo apt-get install libreoffice-help-en-gb05:58
histoknivez: Are you transfering them off your /root drive?05:59
knivezonto the root05:59
knivezbut I will be transfering them back off of the root drive why?05:59
Phryqhttp://pastie.org/798739905:59
puffHm, anybody familiar with partitioning, etc, can you confirm that I'll be safe in just using gparted to resize my / partition?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5718946/06:00
Phryqthat's my output from the last command yougave histo06:00
Phryqdo I have to enable some new repository? that's what I thought at first and I enabled the canonical partners, but that didn't work06:01
puffLong story short, I ended up with (don't know why) an LVM partition on /dev/sda10, which is between my /bulkdata partition (which is where I stole the 40 GB in /dev/sda10) and my /partition (which I now need to grow).06:01
histo!info libreoffice-l10n-en-gb raring06:01
ubottulibreoffice-l10n-en-gb (source: libreoffice): office productivity suite -- English_british language package. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.0.2-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 472 kB, installed size 3462 kB06:01
Ben64puff: can you post a screenshot of what gparted shows?06:02
histoPhryq: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libreoffice-help-en-gb06:02
puff(why LVM?  Probably because I was looking at trying out Centos and the Centos installer did the shrinking for me, but I exited out of the install process before finhsing.06:02
histoknivez: well you are hammering the disk with IO then trying to run stuff from the same drive06:02
knivezhisto: yeah pretty much :/06:02
puffBen64: sure, a) how do I take a screenshot in ubuntu and b) is there some site I can pastebin a screenshot to, or should I just stick it on my debian colo?06:02
histoknivez: so it has to stop writing or reading and then do your read request then go back to what it was doing.  Then another read request etc....06:02
knivezaww :(06:02
histoknivez: Hard disk drives have been the bottleneck of performance for quite some time now.06:03
Ben64puff: print screen key, imgur or wherever06:03
puffBen64: Cool, one sec.06:03
faihasaiis it safe to install skype?06:03
histo!paste | puff use printscreen button06:03
ubottupuff use printscreen button: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.06:03
betraydhe says he has done that before, well guess that's the end of it now ey knives06:03
histofaihasai: sure.. It's in the partner repository06:03
puffhisto: thanks.06:04
puffBen64: http://imagebin.org/25964206:05
Phryqhisto, I tried that one earlier. Just tried it again (just in case) and I got the same output.06:06
Ben64puff: so you want to make sda8 bigger?06:06
puffBen64: Yah.06:06
knivezif i find that a hard disk has bad sectors what do i do?06:06
Ben64knivez: get a new one06:06
puffBen64: Everybody on #ubuntu said "20 GB is plenty for /, you'll never run out"... and now here I am :-).06:06
faihasaihisto: there's a new thread on ubuntoforums about skype having a back door06:06
faihasaidoesn't look safe to me06:06
Ben64puff: so whats in sda10 ?06:06
histopuff: you only have 5MB of free space?06:07
puffhisto: Where?06:07
histofaihasai: link?06:07
knivezwhy kind of format is best for linux?06:07
histopuff: the unallocated space.. actually you have 2MB unallocated inside the extended and 3MB outside of it.06:07
puffBen64:  I was looking at trying out Centos and the Centos installer did the shrinking for me, but I exited out of the centos install process before finshing.  /dev/sda10 is the resulting partition.06:08
faihasaiubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214838506:08
histo!best | knivez06:08
ubottuknivez: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.06:08
faihasaihisto: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214838506:08
histoknivez: What kind of drive are you formatting?06:08
puffhisto: Yeah, I think those were also a result of the centos installer.06:08
Ben64puff: so you're saying nothing is there? so its safe to delete?06:08
puffBen64: Yes.06:08
knivezan old one 3tb 7200 RPM06:08
Ben64puff: and whats up with sda9?06:08
puffBen64: Again, I don't know, I think that may be a result of the centos installer.06:09
puffBen64: I had /dev/sda7, aka /mcgee, and /dev/sda8, aka /06:09
knivezshould i format to FAT?06:09
Ben64puff: you should mount sda9 to see if thats safe to delete too06:09
Ben64knivez: what are you trying to accomplish06:09
knivezto format this drive so i can use it across multiple OS's06:10
Ben64puff: and then to actually make sda8 bigger, you'd need to do that from a livecd or usb06:10
Ben64knivez: then you probably want ntfs06:10
knivezubuntu says ntfs is shit :(06:11
knivezlol06:11
knivezbut its fine actually?06:11
puffBen64: Nothing in it but lost+found06:11
FloodBot1knivez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.06:11
puffBen64: Yeah, I have a live Cd of raring.06:11
histofaihasai: I don't see what this forum post is based on06:11
Ben64knivez: watch the language in here, and ntfs works the best out of the windows filesystems. fat32 doesn't support big partitions or big files06:11
clctoknivez: you want ntfs06:12
knivezwhat is a volume? is that considered a drive. When i select format volume I dont want to erase any other drives :/06:12
puffknivez: ntfs sucks, it just sucks less than anything else windows can grok, and you specified windows compatibility as a requirement, hence ntfs.06:12
puffBen64: okay, so any more advice or should I go ahead and reboot into live CD?06:13
histoknivez: use ext3  and add ext3 support to windows06:13
Ben64puff: it'll take a long time06:13
puffBen64: How long?06:13
Ben64depends on your drive speed06:13
knivezis it hard to add ext3 support to windows?06:13
puffBen64: Days, weeks?  7200rpm.06:13
histoknivez: mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdX#06:13
Ben64hours06:14
puffOkay, I'll kick that off and go to bed.06:14
knivezhuh?06:14
Ben64i'd guess 12 hours max06:14
histoknivez: to format the partition06:14
knivezI was going to use the ubuntu disk utility06:15
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mikodohisto,  I guess the backdoor posting is this page   http://memeburn.com/2011/07/microsoft-and-skype-set-to-allow-backdoor-eavesdropping/06:17
histoknivez: http://www.fs-driver.org/06:17
knivezhisto: ty06:18
histomikodo: faihasai it's all bs and old stories. M$ scans chats already to "fight spam"  they are talking about passing a law allowing the feds access through a backdoor but I don't see that hapening.06:18
mikodohist06:19
mikodohisto, TY06:19
faihasaihisto: good to know no one's panicing, installing it right now06:19
histofaihasai: Read the end user agreement you will be surprised on most software like that. It says right in there that M$ can read your IMs06:21
mikodohisto, gmail too?06:23
puffBen64: Wow, forgot how slow live CDs are, really gotta make myself a bootable USB key.06:23
clctomikodo: gmail definately reads your ims06:23
clctoemails*06:23
faihasaihisto: MS reading my emails is well and good, im more concerned about the software leaving back door access to my computer06:23
clctomikodo: thats how they target ads06:24
mikodoclcto, Nice06:25
histofaihasai: that's not what that post is about.06:26
histomikodo: faihasai Just follow this piece of advice... Anything you put out online is available for anyone to read unless you encrypt it.06:26
clctomikodo: set up your own mail serve06:26
puffBen64: hm, I assume I can use gparted to resize /, but what do I use to blow away the LVM partition on /dev/sda10?06:26
clctopuff: you cant resize it when it is mounted, you will have to use a live environment06:27
puffclcto: I'm n a live environment.  Raring live Cd.06:27
puffWell, raring live DVD.06:27
faihasaihisto: How about this, then:  The Skype client for Linux has been observed accessing the /etc/passwd file during execution. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype_security06:28
moses_is there a program that will repair disks?06:28
Ben64puff: gparted can do that too06:28
mikodoclcto, I could, just not too much for me to hide, or interesting to anyone really.06:28
puffBen64: Hm, delete, etc, are all grayed ot.06:28
betraydmoses got any bad blocks? moses06:29
moses_yes i think so06:29
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knivezits actually me06:29
Ben64puff-06:29
knivezshould i try gparted?06:29
knivezLOL06:29
Ben64puff: does it still have the excalamation mark on it?06:29
puffBen64: In gparted?  No.06:29
xrqI'm getting an error when I run an openGL es 2 sample program - "libGLESv2.so - cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory".  does anyone know which package I need to install to run this?06:30
puffBen64: Ah, it has a ltitle key icon on it, though.06:30
Ben64puff: that usually means its mounted06:30
histofaihasai: I really don't care and don't use skype06:30
histoknivez: What are you trying to do?06:30
knivezrepair this disk then put files back on it06:31
knivezand leave it alone06:31
puffBen64: And "maanage flags" has "lvm" checked.06:31
histoknivez: What's the issue with the disk that you need to repair it?06:31
histo!details | knives06:31
ubottuknives: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."06:31
puffBen64: /dev/sda10 doesn't show up in mount output.06:31
knivezdisk utility says it has some bad sectors06:31
Ben64puff: yeah i'm not sure, i never use lvm06:32
betrayd!lvm06:32
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto06:32
histoknivez: Well there is no "repairing" of bad sectors. They just get marked bad. I'd also start being suspicious about the safety of your data on the device as it may be failing.06:32
knivezok fair enough06:33
puffBen64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5718995/06:33
puffAnybody grok lvm partitions?06:33
knivezso i formatted to NTFS and restarted and some weird stuff happened I opened the drive up and it has a random paritioning????06:33
histoknivez: What do you mean random partitioning?  How was it partioned previously?06:35
histoknivez: parted -l | pastebinit06:35
puffBen64: Argh.06:35
Ben64puff: google shows a lot of results for removing lvm, don't know if any apply to you06:36
knivezhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5719000/06:36
histoknivez: which drive?06:36
histoknivez: /dev/sdc?06:37
puffBen64: Yeah, found a discussion that says gparted will nto handle lvm ext4 (even, apparently, to remove it).06:37
Ben64could try fdisk or parted06:37
histoknivez: You created a loop partition table on it somehow. Did you try and write an iso image to it with dd to install linux?06:37
knivezsdc yes06:38
knivezi didnt06:38
knivezall i did was reformat and then restart06:38
knivezi didnt do anything to it06:38
knivezI cant do anything with it now :/06:38
knivezit wont let me do anything06:38
histoknivez: sudo apt-get install gdisk   then sudo gdisk /dev/sdc   and partition the drive. Then sudo mkfs.whatever /dev/sdc06:39
feria90hi all . help me plz . i build 1 MTA with postfix use to smtp server to send mail .i had config dkim and spf (all passed).  i create 1 user .  and use it to send 1 simple email to my gmail .but it go to spam in my Gmail not inbox . may server not in blacklist and my domain too .plz tell my i miss some think else to gmail accept my email ?06:41
somsipferia90: where is the server hosted?06:41
histoferia90: How did you check if your server was blacklisted?06:42
knivezwhat does sudo mkfs.whatever /dev/sdc do?06:42
histoferia90: http://mxtoolbox.com/06:42
histoknivez: format the drive mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdc106:43
somsipknivez: it makes a filesytem, but shiould be used ona  partition and not a whole disk06:43
clctoknivez: formats the partition to fs06:43
histoknivez: sorry I typo'd that should be /dev/sdc1  after you create a partition my 1 key is buggered up a little.06:43
histoknivez: you could mkfs.ntfs /dev/sdc1      to create an ntfs filesystem etc...06:44
puffAnybody familiar with lvm?06:44
histopuff: yes06:44
clctopuff: no06:45
knivezsays dev/sdc1 doesnt exist06:45
feria90somsip: in NY . and i use VPS not hosting. i check BL in spamhaus.org06:45
histoknivez: you have to create the partition first06:45
somsipferia90: is it a cloud-based host like AWS or Rackspace?06:46
histoknivez: disk holds the partitions, partitions hold the file systems, file systems hold the files.  Your foot bone is connected to your leg bone....06:46
clctoknivez: and it is /dev/sdc106:46
puffhisto: I just need to remove this lvm accidentally created (via an aborted centos install).  I *think* lvremove is the way to go, but it starts talking about lv_swap and lv_root and that's kinda scary... http://paste.ubuntu.com/5719020/06:46
histopuff: are you currently using the lvm?06:46
puffhisto: Are lv_swwap and l_root inside vg_redbitter?06:46
puffhisto: No.06:46
puffhisto: I was looking at installing centos alongside ubuntu, told the centos installer to shrink my biggest partition to make room for it, then aborted out of the install.06:47
feria90somsip: it is cloud-base host . with single IP06:47
histopuff: Well then delete the lv that centos created06:47
histopuff: it created two lv's root and swap aparently06:47
puffhisto: Which resulted in the superblock problem I was having, I got that fixed, but / is now full and I want to steal some space from that new lvm partition for /06:47
puffhisto: I've never messed with lvm, so I'm wary :-).06:48
somsipferia90: if it's a fixed machine IP (not elastic IP) that does not change, it might not be the issue I was thinking of.06:48
histopuff: well you have volume groups and they contain logical volumes06:48
histo!lvm | puff06:48
ubottupuff: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto06:48
histopuff: read the tldp.org page06:49
puffhisto: Okay.06:49
cxipherskuft@skuft:~$ sudo ~/bin/PhotoshopCS5Launcher.sh wine: /home/skuft/.wine/wineprefixes/PhotoshopCS5 is not owned by you06:49
cxipheranyone have an idea how i can "take ownership"06:49
histoknivez: you can use gksu gparted /dev/sdc  to create the partition  or use sudo gdisk /dev/sdc  and create whatever partitions you want on that disk. Then format it.06:49
puffhisto: The main thing I need to know is, are lv_root and lv_swap insidde v_redbitter, i.e. should I be answering 'y' to those prompts?06:49
feria90somsip: yah its a fixed machine ip06:50
somsipcxipher: use sudo chown on the file. Like sudo chown cxipher /home/skuft/.wine/wineprefixes/PhotoshopCS5. May be different if it's a directory with contents06:50
somsipferia90: not what I was suspecting then. Your question is outside the scope of ubuntu support and I'm not sure where to point you., Sorry06:50
zambaanyone familiar with node.js and npm here?06:51
somsipcxipher: sudo chown skuft ...etc. I just saw your username06:51
zambai want to install ethercalc, but getting errors about npm ERR! error installing uglify-js@2.2.506:51
somsipzamba: #node.js is probably your best option06:51
zambasome posts say something about old version of npm and node.js06:51
cxiphersomsip: thanks lets see if i get the string right06:51
betraydpuff they are inside the vg and for the love of god man read the tldp page06:51
histopuff: yes and then you can remove the vg06:52
feria90somsip: thanks . do you know what channel i can get help06:52
puffhisto: Thanks.06:52
histopuff: double check with mount06:52
somsip!list | feria90, but nothing obvious comes to mind06:52
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SuperLagTrying to find another Ubuntu user with the same laptop as me (ThinkPad W530) and a dock, and two displays connected to it... seems like finding a needle in a haystack.06:53
somsip!alis | feria90, but nothing obvious comes to mind (sorry for the last one)06:53
ubottuferia90, but nothing obvious comes to mind (sorry for the last one): alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*06:53
histopuff: typing mount by itself will show you which parts you currently have mounted06:53
puffYeah, not mounted.06:53
cxiphersudo #chown skuft /home/skuft/.wine/wineprefixes/PhotoshopCS5.sh somsip06:53
SuperLagI'm just wondering if there's any reason Linux would *not* work with that kind of configuration...06:53
feria90:D okey thanks06:54
somsipcxipher: no # required.06:54
histopuff: good to go blow em out06:54
clcto# represents running as root, $ represents running as user, generally06:54
histopuff: then you can remove the vg06:54
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betraydSuperlag the displays need to be detected, xrandr -q (query) should list the 2 displays06:55
puff histo: cool.06:56
cxipherugh06:58
cxipherstill getting "not owned by you"06:58
somsipcxipher: how are you running the program that is giving that error? Can you pastebin ls -la   /home/skuft/.wine/wineprefixes/06:59
betraydgoogle for those words and Photoshopwhatever it is06:59
SuperLagbetrayd: found some others that got it working. I guess for this issue Google knew better. :)07:00
puffhisto: Will gparted resize operation resize both the partition and the file system?07:00
clctoyes07:00
puffclcto: Cool, thanks, here goes.07:01
cxiphersomsip: http://pastebin.com/zqB7Am0h07:03
antonio_is it just me or does sound on linux completely suck?07:03
antonio_I cannot get my machine to record any audio reliably07:03
betraydSuperLag nice, run with it, you must be on the right track heheh07:04
antonio_I'm sooooo over trying to record audio on my ubuntu machine07:05
somsipcxipher: PhotoshopCSS is a directory. You own that, but there may be something in the contents you need to own. You could 'chown skuft -R /home/skuft/.wine/wineprefixes/PhotoshopCSS' but you should check this will not change a file that should not be owned by you (it will choown recursively)07:05
betraydantonio_ theres other distros out there ptu away your tunnel vision07:06
chris________can someone plz guide me how to repair grub/boot into my system. i have root in an lvm on top of luks07:07
histo!grub | chris________07:08
ubottuchris________: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub207:08
histopuff: Yes I believe it does07:09
cxiphersomsip: I get a ton of messages like this 'chown: changing ownership of ‘/home/skuft/.wine/wineprefixes/PhotoshopCS5/dosdevices’: Operation not permitted'07:09
histopuff: backup your data on said partitions first though.  Resizing can go horribly wrong.07:09
cxipherany way i can just erase the whole darn thing?07:09
somsipcxipher: sorry - should be sudo chown. But that suggests there are files in there that are not owned by you so *be careful* you don't change something that breaks something else07:09
cxiphersomsip: still not working. any way i can just erase the whole darn thing. i just want photoshop to work ugh07:11
honvaihi. Teach me how to install the operating system on the touchPad07:11
somsipcxipher: then maybe you need some specialist wine help. I think there is a #wine channel or maybe ##wine07:11
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somsip!phone | honvai07:11
ubottuhonvai: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch07:11
cxiphersomsip:  thanks ill look07:11
histocxipher: /j #winehq07:12
somsiphisto: thanks07:12
youserHi people07:12
clctoyouser: Hi person07:13
clcto(i hope)07:13
StarOnDmy ubuntu 13.04 software center is stuck after I tried installing Mysql server. It's half done and not moving a bit. any advice for me ?07:13
youserI'm just here for general chat. DOn't know much about IRC. I want people just discussing just ranndom things. I don't know where these type of channels are.07:14
clctouse maria-db07:14
somsip!ot | youser07:14
ubottuyouser: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:14
somsipyouser: but for general chat, you need to be somewhere else completely07:14
StarOnDclcto, how do I exit the software center with minimum "damage" to the code ?07:15
youserThanks ubottu. Plz tell me some #xyz channels so I can go there. All I found in the 'room list' were support forums.07:15
somsipStarOnD: I'm sure I've seen reports here of people killing the process and then having bad problems. Not sure of a 'safe kill' approach07:15
somsip!list | youser07:15
Ben64youser: #defocus07:15
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somsip!alis | youser07:15
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somsipyouser: (sorry for the list factoid)07:15
youserokay thanks. will go to defocus07:16
chris________histo, thx for the response. both links don't even mention lvm07:16
histochris________: they mention the method for fixing grub... What is the problem you are having following them?07:17
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somsipStarOnD: still stuck? I have a few links to share if you want?07:19
StarOnDsomsip,I chose to click on quit on the ubuntu software center on the bar on the right side , after I restarted it the mysql install was still showing half done. I think it is again downloading. question. how do I end it and how do I try to start it again ?07:20
StarOnDsomsip, please share the links :)07:20
somsipStarOnD: looks like a common solution - force install, or delete cache. Have a read http://is.gd/EvQtRk http://is.gd/xhUdAL http://is.gd/ZYbNR9 http://is.gd/aLULUs07:21
chris________histo: i get kernel panic:  kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)07:22
chris________histo: i dont what to pass as cryptdevice and root as kernel parameter for the kernel to actually find the root fs07:23
histochris________: can you please start over... How did this problem start? What version of ubuntu? etc...07:23
clctochris________: can you please change your nick07:23
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histo!tab | clcto07:24
clctohisto: do you not think i know that07:24
TroLLBandoes anyone know of iFunbox? or a similar iDevice manager for Ubuntu?07:25
clctoits just annoying to look at07:25
clctoi think its vuze07:25
TroLLBanclcto: very funny07:26
chris________histo, i tried to setup serial console access in grub and screwed up my grub configuration. its 12.04 lts. my root is /dev/sda5 when booting from live cd i can access it. first i cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda5 then i enable the lvm vgchange -ay. thus i can mount my root fs. but i can't figure out how to boot into it.07:26
histochris________: once it's mounted fix your grub config07:26
histochris________: then update-grub and reboot07:27
grahamsavage__how do i get grep to get the matching line and one line after?07:27
clctoTroLLBan: what07:28
somsipgrahamsavage__: -N07:28
somsipgrahamsavage__: sorry -A n, so -A 107:28
cxipherwhats the best way to make a .sh file executable and run it07:29
somsipcxipher: chmod +x {file}07:29
cxiphersince double clicking just opens it in gedit07:29
somsipcxipher: then ./{file}07:29
chris________histo, looks like i'm choosing the wrong parameters for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX in /etc/default/grub and i'm not able to figure out the correct kernel parameter :(07:31
natrixnatrix89I have this weird issue that whenever that always on startup chromium-browser opens automatically with to tabs "about:blank". chromium-browser is not in startup applications.. and Can't figure out how to prevent this behaviour..07:32
natrixnatrix89The most frustrating part is that it also opens whenever I press the "super" key to open unity menu and open apps.. Because it really slows down pc and is annoying.. I have no idea, what is causing this and how to prevent this..07:32
aandyhi, i have two lines in sudo: aandy ALL=NOPASSWD: git, and: aandy ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL. my goal is to allow sudo git without pw, and require pw for sudo <everything else>. it prompts me for pw when i do sudo git, any ideas how i'm suppose to format sudo?07:33
cxiphersomsip: http://pastebin.com/GRJ5LY0e07:33
diverdudeaandy: you are seeting up git client or git server?07:33
echoecxiper07:33
echoeadd the .sh07:33
echoeyou are trying to run a file that doesn't exist.07:33
aandydiverdude: just client, but i need to sudo because i'm acting on someone (dummy) elses behalf (like, git user, www user, db user ...)07:34
somsipcxipher: well, you did a chmod +x on PhotochopCS5.sh which was successful. Then you tried it again on PhotochopCS5 which failed (does it exist). Then you tried to run PhotoshopCS5 which might not exist. Try ./PhotoshopCS5.sh07:34
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FloodBot1!netsplit07:35
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diverdudeaandy: can't you just setup the client public key on the server?07:35
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somsipaandy: then surely you would 'sudo -i && su git' to become the git user07:35
cxiphersomsip:  is ./file a shorthand for bash file07:35
somsipcxipher: ./ means '07:35
aandysomsip: except i don't want to type pw in order to git as the git user07:35
cxiphersomsip: sorry im a noob and that means nothing to me07:36
somsipcxipher: ./ means 'in the current directory' then the file name means 'do it on this file' so essentially you execute that file in the current directory07:36
somsipaandy: so you want sudo -i to work with no password?07:36
cxipherahh thanks07:36
cxiphersomsip: I got Photoshop CS5 running!07:36
aandydiverdude: for ssh or git or how do you mean? it's a custom command i'm running (although in the post-update hook)07:36
somsipcxipher: I'm pleased for you07:36
cxipherStill need to fix the font issue causing it to crash but I'm most of the way there.07:37
aandysomsip: for the git cmd yes, not for everything07:37
aandywhich i'd normally limit as noted above, but when i have both, it only follows the latter. should it be aandy ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/git ?07:38
cxiphersomsip: last question for the night then i have got to get SOME sleep. How would I go about (hopefully easily) installing TTF and OTF files in Ubuntu07:38
somsipcxipher: copy them to... /usr/share/fonts from memory07:38
diverdudeaandy: if you create a private/public key pair and set the private key in /home/git/.ssh and copy the public key to servers /home/gitrepouser/.ssh/authenticated_keys file, then it will be secure and will not ask for password07:39
cxipherperfecct thanks :)07:39
somsipcxipher: maybe /usr/share/fonts/truetype/07:39
honvaiIs there such an operating system that runs on all processors and display devices07:39
somsip!ot | honvai07:39
ubottuhonvai: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:39
tesser8natrixnatrix89: which os are you using? Have you tried accessing your keyboard shortcuts yet?07:40
aandydiverdude: right, but it's a dummy login (nologin), it's for schemantics only. but i guess i could drop using dummies for this particular project. it's just not that nice in this environment (if i could avoid it)07:40
natrixnatrix89tesser8: It's not in keyboard shortcuts.. Also I'm not pressing any buttons on startup.. but chromium opens anyway.. I'm using 12.1007:41
diverdudeaandy: mmm ok. i believe you can also disable the servers git account...then it won't ask for password or auth from aybody...but im not sure about how that works...somebody just told me so07:41
somsipaandy: I'm guessing - are you keeping the git repo in a safe /home directory and copying the web app files over to webroot on a post-commit hook?07:41
natrixnatrix89This didn't happen initially. But then something has changed, because it's opening all the time..07:42
aandysomsip: right07:42
tesser8natrixnatrix89: are there any entries in your /etc/rc.local that might cause the problem?07:43
natrixnatrix89let me check07:43
natrixnatrix89hmm. nope. there's only exit 007:43
natrixnatrix89tesser8: Initially I thought something might be calling some javascript or sth that tries to open a new window.. But I think that isn't the case, because chromium isn't set as my default browser.. My default browser is chrome..07:44
tesser8natrixnatrix89: have you checked ~/.config/autostart for entries of chromium?07:46
natrixnatrix89well there's chromium-browser.desktop.. which has this entry with "Exec=/usr/bin/chromium-browser --no-startup-window"07:47
natrixnatrix89but why would it open each time I press "super" key?07:47
natrixnatrix89anyway let's delete this file..07:48
sanderj_Is is possible to debootstrap directly into / ?07:48
tesser8natrixnatrix89: I don't know, I suppose these are two different problems. I'd try to delete it, you can always restore07:48
best001CIAO07:48
best001!list07:48
ubottubest001: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».07:48
Ben64best001: why always !list ????07:48
somsipaandy: can you do this with directory permissions and sticky bits (chgrp www-data -R /var/www && chmod g+s /var/www) and add gthe git user to www-data group?07:49
natrixnatrix89tesser8: It feels quite related. Because all times it tries to open a new blank tab. As if I clicked on a link in email or somewhere that pointed nowhere..07:49
best001!list07:50
natrixnatrix89also deleting the file didn't fix it.. I just opened unity, which triggered the chromium browser to open..07:50
aandysomsip: hmm, yes. i'll try that out, thanks07:50
somsipbest001: you've been told - no warez here07:50
natrixnatrix89Also googling didn't help. I'm the first person with this issue.07:50
Ben64somsip: i really want to know why italians come here and !list all the time07:51
tesser8natrixnatrix89: I tried googling it too, without finding anything07:51
tesser8natrixnatrix89: if you don't usually use chromium, you could always purge+reinstall it07:51
somsipaandy: it's not the safest approach, but it might be an easier starting point07:51
natrixnatrix89Hmm let's see what happens if I just purge it07:51
natrixnatrix89I'm just afraid it will still try to open new tab in a different browser07:52
somsipBen64: answers are needed07:52
aandysomsip: i'll use it for now. the long term plan is to simply issue graceful shutdown signals like kill -HUP, which will run on a different user. for a quick workaround this'll do fine. thanks :)07:53
somsipaandy: no worries. I did this on my own server and had to ssh to it to remind myself how I did it :-/07:53
aandyheh :)07:54
natrixnatrix89hmm. purging might have solved the issue.. But I still have no idea of the root of this..07:54
tesser8natrixnatrix89: me neither, but i'm glad it helped.07:55
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natrixnatrix89tesser8: what are the possible ways to run commands on startup? there's "Startup applications", ~/.config/autostart, /etc/init.d/, anything else?07:56
devnull_Working on a visual diagraming tool to help kids write software. The diagrams populate a data structure that I compile to java. Thoughts? https://vimeo.com/6736913707:56
natrixnatrix89devnull_: what language is it written in?07:57
natrixnatrix89looks quite nice UX07:57
tesser8natrixnatrix89: also /etc/rc.local07:57
devnull_The UI is javascript / html 507:57
natrixnatrix89devnull_: So the lines connecting things are drawon using canvas?07:57
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natrixnatrix89* drawn on canvas07:58
devnull_Using web sockets to a java server that will connect to other clients to allow same time collaborative editing of the program and allow you to compile to java source and compiled jar.07:58
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devnull_Yeah07:58
devnull_I use divs for the elements and have a canvas behind them that racks their locations.07:58
natrixnatrix89cool.07:59
natrixnatrix89any url yet?07:59
devnull_I need a better algorithm for laying out the lines so they are more informative.07:59
devnull_No url yet. I'm too broke to pay may rackspace bill07:59
natrixnatrix89devnull_: yeah I'm wondering about that sometimes too. When I have ideas about drawing lines.07:59
natrixnatrix89devnull_: how about heroku?08:00
devnull_Is it free?08:00
natrixnatrix89there is a free plan too08:00
natrixnatrix89and you deploy all your new changes by pushing git..08:00
natrixnatrix89devnull_: If you use 1 web dyno.. then it's free08:01
devnull_I'll get the UI online with some preloaded data at some point for a demo.08:02
devnull_I'm working hard on the method builder UI right now. It's key to making this project work. I have a data structure for it that compiles to java so I just need to implement an easy to use and understand UI to build the logic data structure08:03
natrixnatrix89right..08:04
devnull_My goal is to compile to a web server with rest and data persistence in mongo/sql + android app jar (no UI) + obj-c iOS library (no UI), and a javascript client library (no UI)08:05
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cyphase_rescuehas anyone set up the google authenticator pam and been locked out? i put the auth required line in common-auth, and it worked fine for a bit, but now it's not accepting the codes i give it08:06
devnull_I have scripts to auto deploy into rackspace so that a user can have every thing they need to deploy a scalable app to the world with out having to write any code.08:06
cyphase_rescue/etc/pam.d/common-auth*08:06
TudorManhello08:08
TudorMani have a question about ubuntu08:08
histo!ask | TudorMan08:09
ubottuTudorMan: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience08:09
histodevnull_: Have you checked out the work that google did with visual object programing?  I think scratch.mit.edu08:11
devnull_I hadn't heard any thing about it08:12
devnull_Oh shoot. I've seen screenshots from it but never found the project08:12
devnull_Thank you!08:12
TudorManscratch is cool i use it alot08:12
devnull_That's kinda the model I'm following but in a much less visual and more linguistic way08:13
devnull_I've blended the use of words, language, and pictographic context to try and express relationships of information08:14
TudorManWhen i clicked the download button for Ubuntu it didn't do anything. It just sat and did nothing. So I opened in a new tab and it just kept trying to load, and nothing happened with it. Is this normal?08:14
devnull_Rather than using a block with brackets to hold elements I am going to use approach it with a pictographic ad-libs syntax of sorts08:14
TudorMani have to be the only one here still on pre-google scratch08:15
TudorManWhen I clicked the Ubuntu download button nothing got downloaded, it just sat and loaded for a while. Is this normal?08:18
dr_willisTudorMan:  it should download an iso file for you. you may want to try the torrents08:22
dr_willis!download08:22
ubottuUbuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Raring, and help keeping the servers' load low!08:22
singh_abhinavhow should i fix this error   http://paste.ubuntu.com/571921508:26
histosingh_abhinav: check the drive with smartmontools and see if it's healthy08:28
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mauihey08:29
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mauiis there a program for chainging my ip08:29
mauiusing a proxy08:29
dr_willismaui:  ifconfig an  set your ip08:29
mauino, i mean show that i am in another country08:29
dr_willisuse a proxy, or vpn, or vps08:30
mauii dont kknow how to do commands, sorry08:30
dr_willisor tor08:30
mauitor08:30
mauiok08:30
dr_willisread the tor site to learn its limitations and other risks08:30
yellabs-r2whats the name of ubuntu discussion irc channel again ? kind of forgot ..08:30
dr_willis!ot08:31
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!08:31
yellabs-r2hmm, i thought there was an other channel , for discussion, but i will try offtopic, thanks08:31
O0ddityi just ran service apache2 restart08:32
O0dditybut there are two proccess running one from root and one from www-data08:32
O0ddityhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5719235/08:33
O0ddityi may ahve made the mistake of running `/etc/init.d/apache start` as root when i was setting up originally08:33
O0dditynow whenever `service apach2` does anything it also runs the proccess as root08:34
histoO0ddity: looks normal to me08:35
O0dditySo it normal for there to be 2 apache proccess one form root and one from www08:36
Fuzzlescan someone tell me the difference between ubuntu and opensuse08:36
yellabs-r2opensuse and ubuntu are both flavours of linux08:37
dr_willisi thought it was ''sudo service httpd start'  but i could be wrong08:38
yellabs-r2opensuse uses rpm based system for package installers / ubuntu uses deb packages08:38
dr_willisthe web server should setitslf to start at boot time and i belive runs as its own specific user.08:39
Fuzzlesyellabs-r2, is suse ubuntu based?08:39
yellabs-r2ubuntu is build on debian branch , i guess , and opensuse used to be build on redhat , but has its own branch now a day's08:39
yellabs-r2any one my correct me if i am wrong..08:40
yellabs-r2:P08:40
somsipO0ddity: quite normal - first process is owned by root, subsequent by www-data08:40
yellabs-r2so , no , suse is not ubuntu based08:40
histoFuzzles: no08:40
Fuzzleshisto, whatws suses de?08:40
dr_willisyou can install most any desktop on any disrto these days.08:41
dr_willisas to what a specific distro uses by default.. check its home page, or the suse channel08:41
jony_easyriderthe weather app on the taskbar why it won't add the selected location?08:42
yellabs-r2suse also , as ubuntu , bundles open source software in an installer package for your computer ...08:42
dr_willisjony_easyrider:  i think theres a bug with some of the weather indicator applets. theres alternative ones out there. check askubuntu.com or omgubuntu, or webupd8 for alternatives08:42
histoO0ddity: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5719264/08:43
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Joan_LC_WebMaste weed nus dias08:55
needhelpI updated ubuntu last night and now my grub config file is empty08:56
Ben64needhelp: from what to what and which config, and how empty08:56
alex_alexhello2all08:57
alex_alexplease,advice. is any way to install apps on non system partion?08:57
needhelpmy /boot/grub/grub.cfg file is blank08:58
Oasahi all, my audio doesnt seem to work through headphone.08:59
OasaThe moment i plugin my headset. I see the muted light in my keyboard.08:59
Oasaeven if i unmute there is no effect. i hear nothing09:00
Oasahelp09:00
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needhelpI was already on 13.04, I upgraded my packages and when I woke up and booted, I got to the grub> prompt09:04
histo!grub2 | needhelp follow the boot repair instructions09:15
ubottuneedhelp follow the boot repair instructions: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub209:15
comodo_dragonUSB keyboard not recognized by Ubuntu. Help pls.09:15
somsipcomodo_dragon: is it working ok on another PC or in a different OS?09:16
comodo_dragoni want to get it working on this pc09:16
paulens12hello09:16
somsipcomodo_dragon: you need to discount the possibility of a hardware issue first. It's the easiest one to check09:16
somsipcomodo_dragon: if you don't have access to anything else, what does 'dmesg' say when you plug it in?09:17
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caneluponerolettore codice a barre emulatore di tastiera non va con xbuntu perchè ?09:28
DJones!it | caneluponero09:28
ubottucaneluponero: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)09:28
ExnorHello09:31
Exnori'm really trying to like ubuntu09:31
ExnorI only installed it yesterday, but i've already managed to totally break it twice09:31
Exnorsimply by trying to set my resolution...09:32
ExnorI have dual monitors, I went to set it, and it said "does this look ok?", I clicked "restore previous configuration", and it crashed.  had to CTRL+ALT+DEL, and both times i've tried this it's killed grub - reboots and I get "no boot disk"09:33
minimec_Exnor: So you say, you failed until now to set your resolution?09:33
Exnormindstorm: it's actually the first thing i've done in ubuntu09:33
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Exnorit sets the resolution fine09:34
flintserhow does it crash?09:34
minimecExnor: So now you want it as in dual screen mode. ok. What kind of GPU do you have?09:34
Exnorbut if I try to restore the previous config when it confirms it, that when it crashes, I reboot, and it won't boot anymore (corrupts the boot partition perhaps)09:34
flintserany errors or something?09:35
Exnorflintser: it hangs, and then comes up with "Ubuntu has encoutered an error", I click ok, and after that it seems to only respond to a ctrl+alt+del09:35
Exnor(and the UI disappears, so knome crashes I guess)09:35
Exnorminimec: I didn't actually ask it for dual screen, but I did set "do not mirror my display" so that the correct resolution for my primary monitor was displayed in the drop down list09:36
Exnor(it already appeared on my second screen as a mirror from a fresh install)09:37
Exnorjust checking the gpu09:37
flintseryou can try ctrl+alt+f1 to get into a tty and debug the problem there. in ubuntu also try not to do ctrl+alt+del, try waiting first, then try the tty09:38
flintserhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/95192/what-is-the-equivalent-of-control-alt-delete09:39
flintserit may be that the resolution is somehiw wrong and yourr system cannot handle it09:40
flintsersomehow* your*09:40
Exnorflintser: ok, thanks for the tip09:41
Biomechdi want to suspend my computer in about 15-20 minutes to give my laptop time to render out something in blender. what command do i use?09:41
diimdeephello, I have trouble stopping service using upstart http://i.imgur.com/CEIscjv.png here is .conf and on second terminal window actual problem I'm facing09:41
somsipBiomechd: at09:42
xrcI was playing around with mir today, and now my x wont' start09:42
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xrccan I get someone to help?09:42
Biomechdsomsip: i'm conused.09:42
needhelpwhat is root supposed to be set to on a lvm encrypted drive?09:42
Biomechdconfused*09:42
somsipxrc: where did you get mir from?09:42
needhelpin grub.cfg09:43
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Benkinoobyhi, has someone experience in adobe-vs-lightspark performance wise? my internet is super slow (64k) so research is a real pain :( is lightspark worth the download? currently i use adobe09:43
somsipBiomechd: you use the 'at' comand to do something at a certain time. You could use sleep for a short while I guess09:43
minimecxrc: I would remove that mir server again and do a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'09:43
somsip!ppa | xrc09:44
ubottuxrc: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge09:44
DJonesxrc: Probably the best place to ask about mir is in #ubuntu-mir09:44
Biomechdsomsip: so "sudo suspend at 05:10"?09:44
xrcyes, I know that it can break it and I'm ok with it )09:45
xrcthanks DJones09:45
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Geryhey guys, i need ur help I install ubunut 12.04 n ow but it couldn't update  sourcelist ,I can not get software source list graphice and I cann't add repository can you help I am not familar with ubutnu 12.04 waiting ur fast response09:45
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Biomechdactually, it looks like my render's past all the complicated stuff and it's just rendering the background.09:45
somsipBiomechd: it might be that shutdown...ok, so problem solved? http://is.gd/ggD8cm09:46
Biomechdyup. render only took a couple extra minutes lol.09:46
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somsipBiomechd: ok :) I've not heard of suspend and was looking up what shutdown could do, and that supports times. One for next time maybe09:47
somsipBiomechd: http://is.gd/iqBswD Here you go09:48
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Geryhey,can u help how can install repository in ubuntu 12.04 and update it?09:49
somsipGery: which repository?09:50
Biomechdalrighty, well, i'm gonna go to bed. i got my background rendered out. i'll just have to re-render it later to get the more obvious noise out. good night/morning everyone.09:50
Geryit can not work evry thing and it fresh installed ubuntu 12.04 so i can't install any type applicaiton09:50
somsipGery: you want to change the default repository source in the software manager?09:51
Gery<somsip> can u help me <somsip>09:52
somsipGery: can you answer my question?09:52
xrcDJones, somsip #ubuntu-mir is silent on this one09:52
Exnorminimec: had to get on my hands and knees and take the card out then google, but it's an ATI Radeon 567009:52
MAF|Ahello09:53
somsipxrc: so you;ve installed something from an unsupported PPA and it's messed up your system?09:53
Exnori guess it's just a pretty awful bug with knome or something09:53
MAF|Ai'm looking for softwar called thermoptim09:53
MAF|Acan anyone help09:53
Gery<somsip> cananocal partners repository09:53
xrcsomsip, I've had it installed previously, and the system was ok09:53
minimecExnor: Ok. Do you use the restricted driver with that card?09:54
xrcsomsip, I haven't configured my system to work use the mir server09:54
Exnorminimec: I used the default to start with, and that had issue, then I tried the propriatary one and that had the same issue, which leads me to think it isn't driver specific09:54
somsipGery: you want to add the partners repo using the Software Centre?09:55
minimecExnor: And the issue was (is)?09:55
Exnorminimec: the actual resolution worked ok, it was just "restoring to the previous config" which made it go tits up (crashed)09:55
vitimitihi o/09:55
paulens12hello, i can't find how to install netbeans for php09:55
somsipxrc: sorry - I have no idea. If you've used an unsupported PPA you may need to get help from the package maintainers09:55
paulens12does anyone know what's the package name?09:55
Gery<somsip> yap09:55
Gerybut I cann't09:55
somsippaulens12: download it, chmod +x on the file you download, then execute it (./netbeans-installer.sh or whatever)09:56
somsipGery: I don't use Software Centre so I can't help09:56
paulens12somsip: tried that, but nothing happens09:56
clctonetbeans isnt in repos?09:56
somsipclcto: old old version09:56
dr_willis!find netbeans09:56
ubottuFound: libnb-platform13-java, libnetbeans-cvsclient-java, netbeans09:56
somsippaulens12: which bit does nothing happen to?09:56
paulens12somsip: it's not on software center, but it should be on apt-get?09:56
clctosomsip: thats not rolling release for you09:56
paulens12somsip: i enter the chmod command but nothing happens AT ALL09:56
minimecExnor: Sorry. I don't get it. So the computer boots and the resolution is 'ok', but then you change resolution?!?09:56
xrcsomsip, it looks like the maintaner/developer is one of the ops of the #ubuntu-mir channel, but they no one is responding there09:57
somsippaulens12: it is for 12.04 and possible 12.10. Still at 6.9 from memory. Not sure about 13.0409:57
Gery<somsip>any kind of solution you can tell me I can manage it09:57
xrcsomsip, anyway, thank you for your time )09:57
somsipxrc: you may well have to wait then09:57
xrcsomsip, yes, I'll wait.09:57
Exnorminimec: when I boot it isn't the native resolution, it's far lower - it was a fresh install.  So I went to change it.09:57
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minimecExnor: Where do you change it? In the ATI configuration tool?09:58
Exnorminimec: I just used the settings09:59
yeatsGery: open the Software Center, click Edit -> Software Sources in the top menu - Canonical Partner is in the Other Software tab10:00
minimecExnor: You have the 'Display' thing in the settings menu, but you should also have a configuration software form ATI for that card, if use the restricted driver. Should be something like ATI catalyst control center.10:01
somsip!info netbeans10:01
ubottunetbeans (source: netbeans): Extensible Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.0.1+dfsg1-5ubuntu2 (raring), package size 876 kB, installed size 1919 kB10:01
MechanisMhello, I'm using Ubuntu installed on Macbook Pro with external keyboard, because Ubuntu doesn't offer Russian(Mac) keyboard layout. And when I'm not at home(without external keyboard) I must boot into Mac because I can't type correctly while need russian language. Is there any way to create Russian(Mac) keyboard layout for Ubuntu? If this issue will be closed I'll not need Mac OS at all10:01
Exnorminimec: I see - even with a fresh install?10:02
Exnorif so I can try that one once I fix my boot...10:02
minimecGery: Try to do 'sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf' in a console. That will delete the old package lists. With sudo apt-get update, you can create new lists then.10:02
Exnorit just seems crazy that Ctrl+alt+del has actually totally broken my install10:02
minimecExnor: If you installed the restricted driver fglrx, it should also install that config tool.10:02
Exnorminimec: I didn't directly install anything, this is a totally fresh install10:03
somsipMechanisM: do either of these help you? http://is.gd/nKSNlA http://is.gd/SLoF9a10:03
somsipMechanisM: sorry - one of those was nothing to do with Ubuntu....10:04
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minimecExnor: Ok. Did you run the 'additional driver' thing in the settings? It's jockey-gtk' in a console to launch...10:05
minimecExnor: Run that once...10:05
Exnorminimec: nope, I figured like windows I would just change my resolution to the appropriate one in the list :)10:06
Exnorminimec: ok, once I've fixed this i'll run that10:06
Exnorthanks for the tip..10:06
minimecExnor: It does, but you have more than one driver for your card, the open source one, and the restricted one from AMD/ATI10:06
MechanisMsomsip: I think I need to edit some other Mac keyboard layout for ubuntu and modify it for russian10:07
Exnorminimec: gotcha.  As I say I think this isn't a bug with the driver but actually X10:07
Exnorminimec: i got the res fine, it was just when I tried to put it back to the previous that it crashed, on both the restricted and open source driver10:07
_BauerHow do10:07
somsipMechanisM: on the first link, someone had prepared a layout. I guess that will be a OSX format and of no use?10:08
_BauerI adjust mouse settingsi n Raring?10:08
MechanisMwhere keyyboard layout files located?10:08
_BauerMouse and Touchpad screen only has Primary Button, and Double clock settings10:09
_Bauerno sensitivity for example10:09
minimecExnor: I am soory. I don't get you! You say it is a fresh install without additional installs... afterwards you say, that you tested the restricted and the open source driver... I am sorry...10:09
MechanisMsomsip: seems like in question on your link they're talking about big apple keyboard which is almost compatible with standart keyboard. I have Macbook Pro and here is different keyboard10:09
somsipMechanisM: Ok - I didn't think it was much use anyway.10:10
Exnorminimec: it's a totally fresh install. But it still gave me the option of using the two different driver types via settings/software10:11
MechanisMI'm currently using mostly bluetootch PC keyboard, but when I'm leaving home I'm so much need ubuntu but can\t use normal russian keyboard10:11
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minimecExnor: Ok. And what driver do you use right now? If it is the restricted one, check for that Catalyst configuration tool.10:13
MechanisMsomsip: seems like i need to send tweet for ubuntudev and ask coz they're not responsible here10:14
somsipMechanisM: volunteers only here10:14
Exnorminimec: I can use either, the problem occurs when I click "apply" after my change, I get the dialog "does this display look OK", and then I click "restore previous configuration"10:15
Exnorthen everything crashes10:15
Exnorbut I could try using a different tool to set it10:15
Exnorhow could I find the catalyst tool?10:15
minimecExnor: So you get that screen, why do you want to restore the old configuration? Is the configuration wrong?10:17
Exnorminimec: I was playing around to try to get the right resolution10:17
minimecExnor: press the 'win' button once and type 'catalyst' or 'amd'.10:18
Exnor"nothing matches your search"10:18
ExnorI guess I need to install that10:18
deckardhello. Is terminal emulator the same as terminal /10:18
deckard?10:18
Exnorminimec: is that driver something I can just get from the ati site?10:19
ScaryBlackGuyhi does anyone have the galaxy Note 10.110:19
ScaryBlackGuy?10:19
minimecExnor: Means you are using the open source driver I guess. Now run that 'jockey-gtk' command in a console, and check for available drivers.... please ;)10:19
paulens12ScaryBlackGuy: why do you need that?10:20
ScaryBlackGuypaulens12, what do you mean why do i need that?10:20
paulens12ScaryBlackGuy: why do you need galaxy note?10:20
Exnorminimec: ok - note that i'm running this off a CD, this isn't my install - that is broken after the crash10:20
clctobecause its not an apple product10:21
Exnorso i'm just seeing what works, and then i'll fix my grub and repeat10:21
ScaryBlackGuypaulens12, well, im a consultant in the data storage industry, and i figure a nice compact tablet with note taking skills would save me from having to lug a laptop with me when i dont need it10:21
facefacehello10:21
paulens12ScaryBlackGuy: better buy a x64 tablet10:21
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ScaryBlackGuywhats that10:21
facefaceI removed some software using the software center, but it still appears in the menu and under the list of installed software in the software center10:22
minimecExnor: Oh lord! Just before you told me, that it is a 'fresh install', and now all of a sudden you are running from the install CD....10:22
facefacehow to 'referesh' the menu?10:22
Exnorminimec: if you follow from the start, I explained the issue quite clearly10:22
ScaryBlackGuywhy paulens1210:22
Exnorminimec: I *HAD* an install, I attempted to change my resolution, it was incorrect, so I went "restore previous configuration".  This *crashed* ubuntu with an error. I pressed Ctrl+alt+delete and my system no longer boots10:23
paulens12ScaryBlackGuy: because it's much more powerful and you can have a full desktop os in it. you can get full programs, not the mobile ones10:23
ExnorI attempted to boot of a USB and the same thing happened again10:23
ScaryBlackGuypaulens12, the whole point of a tablet is to NOT have a full desktop OS10:23
Exnorso I've now got a read-only CD, have booted, and i'm trying to debug this issue10:23
minimecExnor: BUt that installation still exist on your harddrive right?10:23
Exnorminimec: correct10:23
Exnorminimec: i need to fix grub, but I'll be damned if i'm going to do that just to repeat my steps and have it crash again, hence me being here trying to figure out what I did wrong in the first place (repeating on a read only disk so if it crashes I don't destroy my boot again)10:24
paulens12ScaryBlackGuy: well it is for me..10:24
minimecExnor: OK. Let's start agfain... last try. What if we tried to start your install on the harddisk (even if it fails) and do the debugging...10:24
minimecExnor: So you cannot boot in recovery mode? Did you try that?10:25
Exnorminimec: that works too - dakotawulfy just PMed me and said I should follow these steps: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/boot-repair-simple-tool-to-repair-frequent-boot-problems.html10:25
caheEhi, my TL-WDN4800 (uses the ath9k driver) is having packet loss issues, i have tried options ath9k nohwcrypt=1 it fixed the slow download speed issue10:26
Exnorseems I should be able to do this without a tool though10:26
caheEbut now im getting alot of packet loss10:26
Exnorminimec: grub doesn't load, so it says there's no boot disk.  Is it still possible to get to recovery mode?10:26
Exnorminimec: obviously I have the install media available, still10:26
_BauerHow to program different buttons in Ubuntu? I have 9 "buttons" as far as Ubuntu is concerned, and I would like to adjust actions for buttons 8 and 9 (wheel tilt right and left)10:27
minimecExnor: Before you start to add some ppa stuff, I would boot in recovery mode, remove all 'fglrx' package stuff, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and reboot. If you are lucky, you can boot with the open source driver.10:27
_Baueras well as ressign buttons 6 and 7 (back/forward) to something else like copy/paste10:27
Exnorminimec: sounds great - how do I boot in recovery mode without grub? :)10:28
puff`@rn10:28
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clcto_Bauer: you know that 4/5 are back/forward not 6/7 right10:28
minimecExnor: Ok. I see now and I appologize. You don't have grub available.10:28
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minimecExnor: How did you manage that?10:28
Exnorminimec: exactly as I mentioned10:29
dakotawulfyminimec video could be a problem but if it cant boot and said it could not find the boot that means grub is messed up right ??10:29
Exnorminimec: my system crashed, and I had to turn it off, i'm guessing that screwed me10:29
minimecExnor: Do you get an grub error?10:29
Exnorminimec: nope, it simply says no boot device found10:29
dakotawulfyExnor right so grub is messed up10:30
_Bauerclcto: actually I just re-checked on xev, it says buttons 8 and 9 are the back/forward10:30
minimecExnor: can you press (and hold)  the 'left shift' key just after the BIOS boot screen, right before grub starts. Would this give you the grub menu?10:30
clcto_Bauer: what mouse, that is non-standard10:30
Exnorminimec: i'll check, sec10:31
_Bauerclcto: Microsoft Wireless Mouse 5000 - the most standard you can find...10:31
dakotawulfyExnor it does not know where the installed os is to read the boot sector10:31
GjThis is just beautiful! Does this also work?10:32
clctointeresting... you can add a binding for certain xev events, cant remember the cmd though10:32
_Bauerclcto: is tehre no GUI to customize all mouse related stuff?10:33
GjOkay wait this also works10:33
GjInteresting10:33
dakotawulfyminimec this is the link i sent him think that will work for him  to fix the problem10:33
clcto_Bauer: idk prolly somewhere10:34
Exnorminimec: didn't work10:34
Exnor"no boot device available" , i've really screwed this one up :)10:34
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facefaceI removed some software using the software center, but it still appears in the menu. How to reset it?10:35
minimecExnor: Ok. IN this case I would do this http://askubuntu.com/questions/88384/how-can-i-repair-grub-how-to-get-ubuntu-back-after-installing-windows10:36
dakotawulfyExnor if you  do what page says to do think it will work all you have to do is run the recommended repair and it should fix it right away10:36
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Exnorok minimec, thanks will give it a go10:36
minimecExnor: You boot the live CD, chroot into the existing install on the harddrive and update-grub...10:36
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Exnorok great10:37
deckardhello. It seems that it take a long time for the ubuntu to restart or logout . any idea why?10:38
deckardlong time from when i click logout to it actually doing it10:38
puffI have 12.04 LTS.  Prior to that I had 10.whatever, I installed 12.4 along side it in a new partition.  I'm not trying to nistall 13.04 alongside that.  I had planned on overwriting the old 10.x partition, but now it's "copying files" and I don't remember it ever asking me where I want it to put the new install.10:38
clctodeckard: because it does stuff10:38
deckardok, so normal. okay t10:39
deckardty10:39
puffAny idea where it's installing 13.4?10:39
paulens12puff: i guess it's overwriting either the whole harddrive or ubuntu 1210:39
puffpaulens12: You're a big help.10:39
theadminpuff: You can choose to overwrite any of the existing installs during the installation. It's installing to /target, see what's mounted there with mount | grep /target10:39
zambais upgrading from lucid to precise a simple in-place upgrade?10:40
paulens12puff: maybe you chose the wrogn option (overwrite) in the beginning10:40
zambajust 'do-release-upgrade'?10:40
theadminzamba: It's not exactly in-place, it will require a reboot (new kernel and stuff)10:40
pufftheadmin: Ah... okay, gparted says target is a new 30GB partition I had other plans for, but no sweat.10:40
theadminzamba: But other than that, yes10:40
clcto /close10:40
puffpaulens12: I chose "along side".10:40
paulens12puff: oh then it's weird xD10:40
zambaoh well.. 748 days uptime :)10:40
pufftheadmin: If I wanted to do this again and make it install over the old 10.x, where/how do I tell it to do that?10:41
zambai need to remove old kernels from /boot.. is there a package that can do that for me, or do i have to manually remove the different files?10:41
Ben64zamba: try bleachbit10:41
puffzamba: you have to do it manually.10:41
puffzamba: sudo apt-get purge linux-imagewhatever10:42
freedomfighter25Ben64, bleach bit sometimes clean files that a also necessary10:42
floogydpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge10:42
floogyhttp://linuxundich.de/de/ubuntu/alte-kernel-inkl-header-mit-nur-einem-befehl-entfernen/10:42
puffzamba: To get a list of all of them, dpkg -l  | fgrep -i linux-image10:42
zambathis server needs a reboot...10:42
theadminpuff: Well, either you choose "Remove Ubuntu x.x and reinstall" or you can do manual partitioning and choose to use the old Ubuntu partition as / (make sure to format it, though)10:42
minimeczamba: remove the linux-image packages you want to delete in the software manager. I normally use synaptic...10:42
Ben64freedomfighter25: it lets you choose what to do10:42
zambathe running kernel isn't installed :)10:42
puffzamba: then you can do:  sudo apt-get purge linux-image1 linux-image2 linux-image3 etc.10:42
freedomfighter25Ben64, i read from another forum saying that i clean that why10:43
zambadpkg --list | fgrep -i linux-image | grep `uname -r`10:43
zambareturns nothing10:43
freedomfighter25*it10:43
pufftheadmin: it didn't offer me "remove ubuntu x.x" it said "you already have 10.x and 12.4, overwrite the existing install or install alongisde?"10:43
Ben64freedomfighter25: well it lets you choose10:43
freedomfighter25Ben64, good to know10:43
theadminpuff: Eh, I think it lets you choose which to overwrite if you choose that, but I'm not  100% sure. I never had more than 2 operating systems.10:44
theadminpuff: Most of the time I haz 110:45
theadminpuff: ...well I mean I had 5 yesterday but those were all VMs10:45
pufftheadmin: I suppose I could rm -rf /oldrootpartition10:45
theadminpuff: Eh, or you could mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdwhatever10:45
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begin_opensourcewhat is fork means...for a source code10:48
begin_opensourcemeaning forkin the source code10:48
minimecbegin_opensource: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_%28software_development%2910:48
theadminbegin_opensource: Well, cloning an app and then following a different, independent development path. For example, System Imager is a fork of Remastersys.10:49
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whoobyhello! i have installed ubuntu 13.04! everything is ok except one thing. when my Ubuntu desktop is sitting idle with nothing apparently happening , my internet is being drained by my comp/ i figured this out because i was trying to install an app on my iPhone sharing the same wi-fi router as my comp running Ubuntu idle at desktop. the wi-fi was incredibly slow and could hardly install a small 4 mb app. so i closed ubuntu and turne10:50
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begin_opensourceminimec, theadmin  thank alot10:51
BluesKajhowdy all10:53
facefacehow to 'referesh' the menu?10:55
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begin_opensourcefaceface,10:55
facefacesigh10:56
pufftheadmin: Okay, well that ended up doing a pretty vanilla install into the 30GB partition, so a) it worked and b) it didn't ruin anything else, and c) the main installer actually successfully installed on my hardware, so it looks like I won't miss the alternate installer after all, but d) I'll have to blow it away and figure out how to install it so it uses the separate /home partition.11:00
pufftheadmin: But e) the sun is now well and truly up, so I'm going to go to bed.  Thanks much for the help!11:00
theadminpuff: You just use manual partitioning.11:01
baunduleXubuntu 13.04 brightness issue, any solution?11:05
baunduleXanu help?11:07
baunduleXany help?11:07
whoobybaunduleX: system settings/brightness and screen11:07
baunduleX@whooby everytime i set brightness at a level it gets reset at next boot to lowest value11:08
whoobybaunduleX: cant help you there buddy .11:08
baunduleXso sad11:09
baunduleXseems the issue is never gonna solve11:09
whoobybaunduleX: sounds like its telated to your comp make /model .. not your OS11:09
whoobybaunduleX: *related11:10
minimecbaunduleX: Try this (the comment with +5) would be the solution I would use... (placing the command in rc.local) ...11:10
minimecbaunduleX: http://askubuntu.com/questions/145314/how-to-save-brightness-settings11:10
baunduleXno, actually the problem existed in ubuntu 12.04.1 but after installing 12.04.2 the problem gone, but its now back in 13.0411:10
whoobybaunduleX: its definetly related to your specific make/model pc11:11
ZnooseybaunduleX, http://suhothayan.blogspot.no/2012/05/setting-brightness-at-ubuntu-startup.html might help11:11
whoobyi had the same issue with my pc core volume level always defalting at 011:13
stillneedhelpwhen I boot grub drops me to a grub> console, my grub.cfg file is empty; this is what boot-repair generated: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5719545/11:14
baunduleXZnoosey: thanks a lot , seems that it will work, i made a script before which also helped for a while, this seems to be great one11:14
Znooseyno problem11:15
stillneedhelpI let boot-repair do the recommended fixes, but that did not solve the problem11:15
whoobyanyone got a clue as to why just having my pc on and Ubuntu desktop sitting idle should zap the hell out of my wi-fi .? or was this a fluke? note : i have rebooted my pc and now i get better download speed with my other devices via that router . what was going on ?11:16
CristenHi everyone, is it possible to use an ext HDD to backup files on Ubuntu and be able to view these files on Windows ?11:19
Znooseyyes Cristen11:19
CristenI tried with an NTFS HDD but now the disk is corrupted and can't be mounted anymore11:20
Cristenit says something about the $MFS11:20
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floogycristen, yes either you may use ntfs/ntfs-3g or vfat in linux or a windows driver for extt2..411:20
floogyext2/3/411:20
CristenWell I heard there are some incompatibility issues11:21
Cristenand now I can't mount the disk again (it is currently being scanned by chkdsk)11:21
CristenThe disk is in an USB hard drive enclose with an OFF/ON Switch. I switched it off and then when I tried to switch it back On again I couldn't mount it.11:22
CristenGParted says the system may be corrupted and asks to run a chkdsk /f on the diks11:22
floogyCristen, yes the ntfs driver under linux may come with some flaws. You should avoid to switch off the computer without cleanly umounting the ntfs file system.+11:23
msqHello11:23
Cristenwell I didn't switch off the computer, I switched off the hard disk enclosure11:23
floogyyes, that might introduce as well such issues.11:23
Cristenso I should unmount it first and then switch it off ?11:24
floogyyes11:24
CristenI tried sbackup to make the backup on it11:24
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whoobywhere do i go to view sll my apps? Ubuntu software center everytime? is there a short cut to viewing all apps ? or is that it ?11:24
Cristenfloogy, is there a way to convert the file so it is readable on both linux/windows with failures ?11:25
Cristenwithout*11:26
theadminwhooby: Well you can click the apps button at the bottom of the main menu (it looks like an "A" on 13.04, but I can't remember what it is in 12.04)11:26
whoobytheadmin: got it ty11:27
floogyCristen, please, take care on your filesystems under linux and keep them umounted cleanly before switching off your computer or the device where your files resides.11:29
stillneedhelpis there a different channel to get help with boot errors involving grub and luks?11:30
Exnorminimec: ok, so i've finally got it booting again11:31
Exnorminimec: i've got an icon in the bottom right that reads "AMD: unsupported hardware"11:31
minimecExnor: Cool. So you were able to recover grub. Very cool.11:31
Exnorminimec: yup11:31
Exnorback onto the desktop now11:31
Cristenfloogy shall I zip the files on the ntfs drive when I do a backup ? or create an .iso image? Or can I just drop files on the go without problems ?11:32
minimecExnor: ok. Now run that 'jockey-gtk' thing again...11:32
Exnork11:32
walltenderWhere do I look for the cause that my ubuntu couldn't shut down?11:33
Exnorminimec: not installed, apt-getting, sec11:33
Exnorminimec: i have it installed now, but that command doesnt work from the terminak11:35
Exnorterminal11:35
floogyCristen, taht depends on your backup. If you're make use of ntfs file streams and extended permissions, then you should go with ntfs or a backup software that respect on those  requirements.11:36
Kowalczykhi. im having trouble with ubuntu 13.04. tried installing it twice now. after install and boot I get this: welcome to grub. error: file not found. entering rescue mode11:36
whoobywhat irc client comes with 13.04? i dont see any here .11:36
Cristenfloogy well it's just a backup of a computer11:37
minimecExnor: I see that. It is not working on my 13.04 laptop either... Let me think about that...11:37
Exnorminimec: I can get to the additional drivers bit again11:37
minimecExnor: Yeah go there11:37
ExnorI can choose from: "Using X.Org X Server - AMD/ATI display driver wrapper from xserver-xorg-video-ati (open source, tested)11:38
Kowalczykany idea what is wrong?11:38
bazhangwhooby, empathy11:38
Exnoror Using Video driver for the AMD graphics accellerators from fglrx-updates (proproitary)11:38
floogyCristen, there are solutions to keep the whole disk of a computer in an image file. Maybe that's what you want to use then?11:38
Exnorminimec: or the last option is Using video driver for the AMD graphics accelerators from fglrx (propriatary)11:39
Exnor(it's set to the last at the moment)11:39
Cristenfloogy yep it might be handy ! Do you have some names to share ?11:39
Exnor(and I have a "AMD: not supported" icon in the bottom right)11:39
floogyCristen, clonezilla, gddrescue11:39
minimecExnor: Ok. So you are using the propriatary (restricted) driver.11:39
Cristenty11:40
ExnorI am at the moment, and it says unsupported hardware - does ATI support ubuntu? I could try to download catalyst from their website11:40
facefaceHow to 'referesh' the menu to only include installed pkg?11:41
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facefacecomputer-janitor lists some cruft, but seems to fail to remove it11:41
minimecExnor: Use the drivers from the repository.11:42
ActionParsnipExnor: what gpu do you have?11:42
facefaceI've got stuff in the menu that "isn't found"11:42
ExnorATI Radeon 567011:42
ActionParsnipExnor: ati supports linux some11:42
ActionParsnipExnor: then the fglrx driver will drive it11:42
Exnorthat's odd11:43
floogyCristen, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_backup_software11:43
minimecExnor: You could try to use the 'fglrx-updates' driver. I guess this is a newer experimental one...11:43
Exnori'm using that now, and it's sayaing the hardware isn't supported11:43
Exnorminimec: I think I need the catalyst stuff though - I have dual monitors, and I need to spin one of them 90 degrees to be viewable (it's on it's side)11:43
Exnorthe options seem very limited11:44
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facefacefaceface: try apt-get autoremove11:44
facefaceok11:44
minimecExnor: Again You are using the ATI driver, and normally the drivers from the repo are optimized for ubuntu. Try the fglrx-updates dirver. And try to open that Catalyst control center for the configuration of your monitors.11:45
Exnorhmm11:45
Exnorsomething is definitely wrong - I switched to fglrx-updates, and it's still got the unspported hardware icon in the bottom right11:46
facefacefaceface: thanks, that seems to have worked11:46
_Bauer is there a GUI to customize all mouse related stuff?11:46
minimecExnor: after switching, you will have to logout/login, or even reboot.11:46
floogyCristen, here is a comparison on disk cloning software  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_disk_cloning_software11:47
faceface_Bauer: gnome-mouse-properties11:48
Exnorminimec: ah right, i'll try rebooting11:48
dazeI'm using ~/.Xkbdmap (-option grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll us,lt) for language switching and in pre-13.10 I see this iBus thing in the tray. Can't get rid of it (unchecking 'show icon in the system tray' does not help). Do I need it? Is it meant to replace xkbd?11:48
_Bauerfaceface: no such command, package not found on apt either11:49
faceface_Bauer: perhaps your not using gnome?11:49
_Bauerfaceface: I am using Unity11:49
faceface_Bauer: keep asking, someone will know11:49
Exnorminimec: that worked, no message bottom right now11:50
Exnorminimec: now i'm trying to launch the catalyst (super user) version, I get the password prompt, enter it, and then nothing happens... :p11:51
minimecExnor: Well step by step we get int 'done' ;) In fact that watermark seems to be a bug... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer-updates/+bug/109856111:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1098561 in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) ""Unsupported hardware" watermark appears when FGLRX is installed on 13.04" [Undecided,Fix committed]11:51
Exnorheh11:51
Exnornice11:51
Exnorminimec: thanks, I do appreciate the help :)11:52
minimecExnor: Can you start the control center as normal user?11:52
Exnorminimec: yep, but can't change anything without being root of course11:52
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DatI wonder why I keep pinging out on freenode11:52
minimecExnor: In fact, you should be able to change the stuff, but not save them 'as permanent'11:52
Exnorminimec: hmm, the drop down boxes are disabled11:53
facefaceDat: flaky connection11:54
minimecExnor: Maybe I am wrong....11:54
Datfaceface: same connection on another network has been connected for over a month solid now11:55
Exnorminimec: any idea what the executable is called? i could just sudo it then...11:55
minimecExnor: if you 'gksudo fglrx-amdcccle' you get an error?11:55
minimecExnor: fglrx-amdcccle ;)11:55
facefaceDat: flakey connection at freenode end?11:55
facefaceDat: your node I mean11:56
Exnorminimec: not installed11:56
Exnorill grab it11:56
Exnorgksu isn't, i mean11:56
minimecExnor: Ok. Try to install 'fglrx-amdcccle-updates'. That should be the one for fglrx-update I guess.11:57
Exnorminimec: i installed gksudo11:58
Exnorminimec: now the command runs, but returns nothing11:58
Exnorno output11:58
whoobyi installed ubuntu from usb using wubi i think ! is that ok ? so far everything seems to be going smoothly11:59
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minimecExnor: 'win' key catalyst? Does it show something?12:00
Exnoryeah that's what i'm attempting to launch12:00
BluesKaj!wubi | whooby12:00
ubottuwhooby: Wubi allows you to install or uninstall Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from within Windows ( version 7 or earlier ) in a simple and safe way. Wubi is INCOMPATIBLE with UEFI, Windows 8 Certified computers, and Windows RAID arrays. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for more information. File wubi bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug12:00
Exnorminimec: both are there (super user and normal user), super user asks me for passwowrd and then does nothing12:01
minimecExnor: if you run it on commandline 'gksudo fglrx-amdcccle-updates' ?12:02
Exnorreturns nothing12:02
Exnorminimec: runs, but nothing :S12:03
whoobyubottu: oh nevermine then . the wubi file came with the installer usb creater . i installed from usb clean and total with full overwrite of existing space .. i am 100% Ubuntu crocodile Roll!!12:03
ubottuwhooby: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:03
auronandacewhooby: wubi is being abandoned, best stay away from it12:03
Exnorminimec: nothing in dmsg12:03
minimecExnor: dmesg would not show anything...12:03
SonikkuAmericawhooby: If you have a Wubi install, it's best you migrate it to hard disk space.12:04
minimecExnor: And I tell you, that's why I never... never never touch AMD/ATI again... I got dissapointed twice by them. Never again!!!12:04
adamkExnor: What's the problem you are having again?12:04
Exnorminimec: ok - I'm actually turning my desktop from a windows into an ubuntu box (or trying), I didn't think about this when buying the h/w..12:05
facefacewhats ubuntu-desktop?12:05
minimecExnor: I don't know what's wrong. I tshould work in my eyes. We have a working dirver, and the only thing we want is to open the config tool. I see no reason, why that shouldn't work!12:05
Exnoradamk: can't launch AMD catalyst superuser12:05
auronandace!info ubuntu-desktop | faceface12:05
ubottufaceface: ubuntu-desktop (source: ubuntu-meta): The Ubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.299 (raring), package size 3 kB, installed size 58 kB12:05
Exnoradamk: works in normal user12:05
facefaceauronandace: I know that, but what is it?12:06
adamkHow are you running it as the superuser?12:06
faceface'The Ubuntu desktop system'??12:06
facefaceis it gnome?12:06
SonikkuAmericafaceface: Just the pointer for installing the Unity desktop environment and its related apps12:06
minimecExnor: I can only encourage you to switch to ubuntu. It is a cool experience. Also your AMD 5670 should work on Ubuntu...12:06
facefaceso I don't loose much if I junk it?12:06
auronandacefaceface: a meta package that brings in a default ubuntu desktop (unity and its dependencies)12:06
Exnoradamk: i'm pressing winkey, typing catalyst, it shows me the two versions (super user and normal user), I just attempt to launch the former12:06
SonikkuAmericafaceface: If you remove it, nothing happens.12:06
adamkExnor: From a terminal, run 'gksudo amdcccle'12:07
facefaceoh, it depends on them, not the other way round?12:07
whoobySonikkuAmerica: i dont think i do? i used the Uni-USB-Installer . i see a wubi.exe file on the pendrive . but i feel like the wubi file came with the download , i did not install from within windows, i just created a usb install pendrive and then booted my machine from the usb .. full and total 13.04 install. thats not a wubi is it ?12:07
Exnoradamk: that worked!12:07
Exnorstrrange.12:07
minimecExnor: Amen! :)12:07
SonikkuAmericawhooby: Nope. The Wubi executable would install Ubuntu inside Windows, but that isn't what runs when you install from the Live media itself.12:08
Exnoradamk, minimec: now just to change my display settings without crashing and wiping the boot partition again ;)12:08
whoobySonikkuAmerica: then i translate that to = i am good to go !12:08
SonikkuAmericawhooby: As far as I know12:09
minimecExnor: Well you know how to fix it now... "piece of cake" ;)12:09
whoobySonikkuAmerica: Ubuntu roll !12:09
Exnorminimec: haha, 2 hours later, yeah ;)12:09
SonikkuAmericawhooby: Never gonna 'buntu up, never gonna 'buntu down...12:09
Exnorminimec: my resolution isn't actually displayed12:09
Exnorminimec: but i'll figure that one out :)12:10
whoobySonikkuAmerica: i mever thought i would get Rick rolled on ubuntu irc help :)12:11
minimecExnor: 'xrandr' in a console would give you the current resolution and all supported ones...12:11
BluesKajwhooby, you won't regret not using a wubi install in windows , altho where/what partition did you install ubuntu to if you wanted to keep your windows install?12:11
Exnorminimec: yeah it detects it fine - I think it's just being limited due to cloning the desktops12:11
Exnoron multiple monitors12:11
Exnori'll get there :P12:11
paulens12is there anything similar to adobe after effects but for linux?12:12
Exnoranyone here: does ubuntu hide file extensions by default, like windows?12:12
minimecExnor: you'll get there for sure...12:12
EaglemanHow can i backup a list of installed programs so i can easiliy install them aigan when i need to?12:12
whoobyBluesKaj: i did that at first and kept windows on the GRUB menu at sata/hdd or something..now i am free of bill gates and his madness forever ! Ubuntu Roll !ng12:12
paulens12Exnor: no12:13
noiroIs anyone aware of a fix for file-roller where it disallows addings files to .zip's and.jar's?12:13
BluesKajwhooby, ok , glad to hear that :)12:14
OnkeltemHi all. How can I make my Ubuntu PC to get hostname from DHCP?12:14
OnkeltemCurrently it ignores DHCP Hostname12:14
noiroI've tried various archive managers and they all face generally the same error when adding a file to a folder in an archive. In gnome's default, I get "An Error has occurred" on drag, nothing happens if I manullay "add file". Nothing happens for most other archive managers and some will not even correctly show all directory contents.12:15
EaglemanHow can i backup a list of installed programs so i can easiliy install them aigan when i need to?12:16
Exnorminimec: thanks again for all your help12:16
minimecExnor: no problem.12:17
ZnooseyEagleman, this might be what you are looking for:  dpkg --get-selections > installed-software12:17
Znooseyand then to install it again: dpkg --set-selections < installed-software12:18
noiroWhen I do this: I have Eclipse accessing the jar as well, while it works in Windows Winrar, do I need to close Eclipse to give other programs access to the same archive? Or should tht not matter?12:18
EaglemanZnoosey, dkpg is the same as apt-get?12:18
Znooseyalmost12:18
Znoosey:P12:18
whoobyminimec: how beautiful of ahuman being are all the people who take their time to help others like thos channel restores my fairh in humanity everytime .12:18
Znooseyapt-get uses dkpg to do stuff12:19
OnkeltemAny ideas why Ubuntu ignore Hostname from DHCP?12:19
minimecwhooby: thx for the 'flowers'. A lot of people in this channel deserve your comment.12:20
marianneHi guys... running 12.04 64 bit and was wondering about getting a blu-ray drive. Any suggestions on models that work with Ubuntu?12:20
BluesKajOnkeltem,  do you mean your router gateway IP ? .The router's responsible assigning IPs on your network12:21
whoobyminimec: cheers to all and bbl . one love Ubuntu nation !12:21
Znooseymarianne, i have this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/IHOS104-Internal-Including-CyberLink-Software/dp/B0079GI0OQ/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1370002913&sr=8-6&keywords=blue+ray+players+for+computer12:22
Znooseyand it works fine12:22
Znooseyi think they will all work...12:23
marianneZnoosey ... any special packages i need to load?12:24
Znooseynot that i can remember12:24
Znooseyit was pretty much plug and play12:24
marianne<Znoosey> That's like the best news I've had all week.12:25
Znooseymust have been a bad week12:26
Znoosey:P12:26
BluesKajOnkeltem, the command route -n shouild give your router IP , and if you're using eth0 ,then,  ip a | grep eth0 , should give your pc host/IP12:26
EaglemanIs there a way to exlude mounted folder from rsnapshot?12:26
EaglemanIs there a way to exlude a mounted folder from rsnapshot?12:26
EaglemanInstead of adding it to an exclude list12:27
OnkeltemBluesKaj: Nah, I mean gettings and setting Hostname from DHCP. Looks like dhclient-script is buggy12:27
marianneZnoosey Been on call and had hardware failure on my 'nix box. Got that fixed and started thinking about a blu ray player. Just need to move the better monitor to this machine and I should be ok12:27
joel_I wonder, when I do sudo apt-get update I got hold back updates with linux kernel. But after the Ubuntu software updater wants to install it anyway, even though its hold back. Why?12:28
BluesKaj Onkeltem  ip a | grep inet12:28
Znooseymarianne, good luck on the blueray player then!12:28
bodomHi there! When i run grub-install, it says "Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting." Any ideas on how to fix it?12:29
feitingenbodom: has it ever worked?12:30
usr13Onkeltem: What do you mean "get hostname from DHCP"?  What's it doing, (or not doing)?12:30
joel_bodom: I guess wrong permissions on /boot/grub. Have you touched it?12:30
betraydibodom You are using the backtick ` , use a backtick to close at the end `12:30
usr13Onkeltem: Are you unable to resolve hostnames?12:30
bodomfeitingen: yes, i have grub installed on /dev/sdb. I've just replaced /dev/sda and i'm i'm trying to reinstall it12:30
usr13Onkeltem: What exactly is the problem?12:31
Onkeltemusr13: no, I need to set hostname from DHCP option N1212:31
Onkeltemusr13: inability to set hostname is the problem12:31
bodomjoel_: uhm... it's 755... does grub care about that?12:31
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feitingenbodom: if you hotswapped sda then grub doesn't know the bios address thing it will get next boot and will think that it is invisible from the BIOS. a reboot might fix it, but that's not really a solution....12:32
modernbobbodom: apt-get dist-upgrade12:32
usr13Onkeltem: Are you wanting a hostname that resolves to your Ubuntu PC's IP address? (Sorry,but I still don't understand what your wanting...)12:32
joel_bodom: I guess it depends which user group that is the owner. But if you havent changed anything, it should not wine.12:32
bodomfeitingen: ty, but i've already rebooted12:32
feitingenbodom: and it still don't work?12:33
bodommodernbob: nothing to upgrade12:33
gadjeehey there am new in de xchat how u guys doining12:33
modernbobthats how you make the kernel upgrade12:33
usr13Onkeltem: What is "option N12"?12:33
cfhowlettgadjee, doining just finne12:33
bodomfeitingen: no, it doesn't. I've cold-swapped the disk then tried to reinstall grub12:33
gadjeewhere u from cause i wanna know more about ubuntu12:35
bodomhow does it figure out the device is "inaccessible at boot"?12:35
cfhowlettgadjee, where all from the internetz .  What's your ubuntu questions.12:35
usr13Onkeltem: Tell us what your end goal is and we will try and help.12:36
feitingenbodom: then i don't know, but a shot in the dark: check if sda is in /boot/grub/device.map, if not do a grub-mkdevicemap12:36
bodomfeitingen: device.map wass missing, i've regenerated it, but no lock12:37
gadjee ive now install xubuntu but i can here any sound n also i will like to partition de disk but dont know how12:37
cfhowlettgadjee, suggest you solve one issue at a time.  Why do you need to partition the disk AFTER you've already installed?12:38
gadjeecause i would like to store some data there12:39
Onkeltemusr13: thanks for trying to help! I've solved the issue. Really, dhclient-script has a bug with setting hostname. Fortunately, you can define your own hook scripts in /etc/dhcp/dhclient-exit-hooks.d/* where you have $new_host_name variable12:39
Onkeltemusr13: so I basically created that script and just do: echo $new_host_name > /etc/hostname; hostname $new_host_name12:40
Onkeltemusr13: N12 IIRC is the ID of Hostname option of DHCP spec12:40
BluesKajOnkeltem, it would have been nice to know you had a script doing the lookup instead of asking us a generic dhcp/hostname question12:41
cfhowlett!parition|gadjee,12:41
cfhowlett!paritioning|gadjee,12:41
betraydyou'd be wasting our time, and yours12:41
usr13Onkeltem: Ok12:41
gadjeecan u use xubuntu to hack12:41
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OnkeltemBluesKaj: well, in that script I can do "host $new_ip_address"  to get hostname from DNS server either. But this is a LAN with no DNS :(12:42
cfhowlettgadjee, see12:42
doomlordis there something i can run to test if my laptop has bluetooth 4.0 support12:42
cfhowletthttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition12:42
somsipgadjee: do you have an actual support request or do you just want to chat?12:42
usr13doomlord: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup12:43
gadjeeno i wanna know more computer science n also hacking12:43
cfhowlett!offtopic|gadjee,12:44
ubottugadjee,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:44
somsipgadjee: that's more like general chat. This channel is for ubuntu support only12:44
BluesKajOnkeltem, usually router access will give hostnames and IPs on aLAN12:44
usr13Onkeltem: I use a dd-wrt router12:44
xrc!guidelines12:45
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines12:45
doomlordsupposedly i have to discover if my computer supports a specific profile im after (cycling speed-cadence)12:48
gadjeehey men am at at offtopic12:48
doomlordfound that..12:48
jhutchins_wkNot every day we get somebody from ghana.12:49
jhutchins_wkdoomlord: dmesg, lspci12:49
doomlordi'll try that too, but i already dont see the one i'm after in a list.. :)12:50
doomlorddmesg | grep Bluetooth : "bluetooth core ver 2.16" << i guess thats confirming my laptops' inbuilt isn't 4.012:51
Kraln-not neccesarily.12:52
Kraln-doomlord: what laptop is it12:52
lujuanhi,everybady12:52
kostkon_doomlord: that's the version of the driver12:52
doomlordi know the cycling/speed cadence device is bluetooth 4.0, "CSPC " profile or something12:52
doomlordah ok12:52
doomlordsony s-series 15' core i512:52
lujuanhow do install libpurpel-devel12:53
lujuanhi!12:53
doomlordok sony spec s confirm latest ones do support it. i must check mymodel12:53
lujuani have a question12:54
lujuanhow do install libpurpel-devel12:54
betraydlujuan very carefully Check your spelling for instance12:54
bodomuhm... which grub packages i'm supposed to have installed?12:54
lujuaninstall libpurpel-devel ?12:55
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librarianjoin coincoin weusecoin12:56
betraydis it anppearing in synaptic12:56
lujuanwhat ?12:56
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betraydthat lib you want12:57
soy_el_pulpolujuan: "apt-cache search libpurpel-devel"12:57
lujuanOk12:57
cfhowlettpretty sure the CORRECT spelling is libpurple12:57
gadjeeam back i just got a glitch in my computer12:57
cfhowlett!details|gadjee,12:58
ubottugadjee,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."12:58
soy_el_pulpocfhowlett: yes12:58
MonkeyDustlujuan  start from the beginning, what is it and why do you need it12:58
joel_I wonder, when I do sudo apt-get update I got hold back updates with linux kernel. But after the Ubuntu software updater wants to install it anyway, even though its hold back. Why?12:58
soy_el_pulpojoel_: they stay marked as being held...12:58
soy_el_pulpojoel_: to install them you use "apt-get dist-upgrade"12:59
joel_soy_el_pulpo: No, the software updater GUI install them anyway.12:59
zambais there a way i can confirm that i have a bootable kernel available before rebooting?13:00
MonkeyDustjoel_  i have that too, something can be installed with the GUI, but not with apt-get13:00
zambawhat grub-command do i run for that?13:00
joel_MonkeyDust: Yes, I think its weird. The GUI should respect the APT :P13:00
modernbobwhats the latest kernel  , I'm using  3.8.0-23-generic13:00
soy_el_pulpojoel_: sorry, never used. this reinforces my personal preference, cli gives you more control13:00
ggherdovHI all, what's the ubuntu package for the python headers ? python-dev something ?13:01
somsip!info linux-kernel | modernbob13:01
ubottumodernbob: Package linux-kernel does not exist in raring13:01
joel_soy_el_pulpo: Yes I agree, I always use CLI. But when I do sudo apt-get update, directly after the GUI laucnhes itself and says new updates available ...13:01
ggherdovok sorry http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/python-dev13:01
somsip!info linux-image | modernbob13:02
ubottumodernbob: linux-image (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.8.0.23.39 (raring), package size 1 kB, installed size 33 kB13:02
joel_soy_el_pulpo: That is retarted I would say.13:02
modernbobthanks13:02
somsipmodernbob: got there in the end...13:02
soy_el_pulpoggherdov: have you tried: "apt-cache search python | grep headers | less"?13:02
martinuxHey guys. I'm trying to access a different hard drive from the terminal. But my /media folder does only contain my home folder. Where else can I find my other partitions or external drives?13:03
soy_el_pulpojoel_: for desktops maybe it is fine, since kernel updates will not have a huge impact, but in servers or in general production systems, yes. maybe they just want to be more friendly13:03
kohvihoo1martinux: is the other drive mounted?13:04
ggherdovsoy_el_pulpo: right. apologies for the noise13:04
martinuxkohvihoo1: yes13:04
martinuxkohvihoo1: i think it is13:04
soy_el_pulpomartinux: check "mount" output, and you logs for the device name13:04
kohvihoo1martinux: can you access it from the file manager?13:04
joel_soy_el_pulpo: Sometimes ubuntu have been installing unsupported updates (EVEN though its turned off in APT source-list), and installed "broken" kernels. That is not fun, even if you are on desktop environment and not server.13:05
soy_el_pulpoggherdov: no problem...13:05
martinuxkohvihoo1: I'm on a wm at the moment so I can't check. However i believe that my other partitions should show in the media folder.13:05
soy_el_pulpojoel_: check you apt.sources, they may have something weird...13:05
soy_el_pulpojoel_: also stick to LTS versions if you want stability13:06
betraydmartinux why in /media though, try df -h13:06
dakotawulfyjoel i was running the 12.04 and it install the 13.04 kernels  i think it has some bugs in it13:06
joel_soy_el_pulpo: No there is not weird lines in there. The GUI is not respecting the settings sometimes. Mostly they do, but sometimes not.13:06
martinuxbetrayd: ah at least now i see my partitions.13:06
soy_el_pulpojoel_: interesting, which version?13:07
martinuxI don't think the device is mounting properly13:07
joel_soy_el_pulpo: Yes, but even LTS versions is instable because they follow the upgrade cycle as the rest. Only difference is long time support.13:07
soy_el_pulpomartinux: check "dmesg"13:07
joel_soy_el_pulpo: Latest version?13:07
martinuxsoy_el_pulpo: that's a lot of output13:07
martinuxsoy_el_pulpo: what am I looking for? My terminal is not long enough13:08
soy_el_pulpojoel_: LTS is supposed to have longer testing windows before updates13:08
geevesHi.  Is there a way to save the windows open in the desktop so they'll open in the next log in?13:08
betraydmartinux dmesg | less will pause it enough13:08
walltenderGet this error when shutting down my linux, then linux just halt there: collectdmon info:collectd terminated with exit status 0, collectdmon info:shutting down collection, modem manager: <info> caught signal 15 shutting down. Any one knows the problem?13:09
soy_el_pulpomartinux: look for "/dev/" messages13:09
martinuxsoy_el_pulpo:13:09
martinuxsd 7:0:0:0: >[sdc] Attached SCSI disk13:09
soy_el_pulpomartinux: when you connect the disk13:09
modernbobhow do you see the entire kernel name...   uname -r or uname-a doesn't do it13:09
joel_soy_el_pulpo: Yes, but mostly they have same child issues as all other upgrades. Ubuntu devs push out upgrades in April and October no matter if the packages are stable or not. Lets say now then do not do the libraries 100% stable for next October release, well then wait until April next time instead.13:09
soy_el_pulpojoel_: maybe, but in that case upgrade only if strictly necesarly. if not broken....13:10
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martinuxsoy_el_pulpo: I don't see anything like it. Assuming i should look at the top/bottom13:11
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joel_soy_el_pulpo: Yes, but I tend to trust the Canoncial when they release soemthign they claim to be stable :P Apple for instance have multiple test rounds in months before releasing anything. They usually never ever has any crashes in neither iOS or Mac OS :P13:12
betraydmartinux keep in mind that if you ahve been busy dmesg grows and may have knocked out earlier boot-time messages. You may want to start over to search those mount errors13:13
martinuxbetrayd: I will try a reboot13:13
nothappyhello! how do i remove something from the menu bar? i accidently put a folder there...13:13
betraydthen search dmesg again soon after13:13
soy_el_pulpojoel_: all of them have their own issues.... there is no perfect one. on Win servers also you need to be careful what you update, same for Apple13:14
s0vereignHi I'm having the issue that one of my monitors isn't runnig anymore after an update. Also my NVIDIA driver broke and the display settings also won't start :(13:14
s0vereignIs there any chance to reset the system without reinstalling? :b13:15
joel_soy_el_pulpo: Yes, there is not failsafe upgrades. But I would like devs actually write GOOD unit tests and quality test packages together and not only separatly. When you release something, it should be like 99.9% bug free.13:16
nothappythere must be an easy answer to my question :/13:16
joel_soy_el_pulpo: And that is for all companys, no matter if Canoncial, Apple or Microsoft.13:16
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dakotawulfys0vereign have u tried to remove the driver with jockey-gtk13:17
betraydjoel_ switch off the rant, any issue you need help wtih13:17
Znooseys0vereign: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-quetzal-nvidia.html13:17
paulens12hello, i installed a web server on ubuntu and it says access denied13:17
s0vereignNope I didn't but I will try  :)13:17
s0vereignthanks ^^13:18
betraydnothappy, right click does nothing?13:18
gordonjcppaulens12: what says access denied?13:18
nothappybetrayd: launch and properties13:18
paulens12gordonjcp: the web server, when i run php file.php from command line13:19
dakotawulfy s0vereign and then reboot after takes it out  and go back in to jockey-gtk and install it agin13:19
betraydpffft13:19
nothappybetrayd: please help13:19
betraydi havent a clue nothappy i have long since switched desktops13:19
makarahi. I'm having trouble copying files to my iPod with GTKPod or Clementine. Get the error read-only filesystem.13:19
gordonjcppaulens12: that kind of doesn't make any sense13:19
soy_el_pulpojoel_: agree13:19
nothappybetrayd: :@13:20
paulens12gordonjcp: that's what it says: PHP Warning:  Unknown: failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line 013:20
nothappyso many ubuntu pros in here and no one knows!13:20
joel_soy_el_pulpo: Good :) Well sorry for the ranting, will quit. Thanks for your support :)13:20
prem__hi all13:20
gordonjcppaulens12: sounds like the permissions are wrong then13:20
cfhowlettprem__, greetings13:20
gordonjcp!help | net0pssec13:21
ubottunet0pssec: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:21
paulens12gordonjcp: yes, and that's why i came here :D i don't knwo how to change permissions13:21
soy_el_pulpojoel_: we also offer psyco support, ;)13:21
gordonjcpnet0pssec: sorry, disregard13:21
gordonjcp!help | nothappy13:21
ubottunothappy: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:21
nothappygordonjcp: i've already asked duh13:21
gordonjcp!permissions | paulens1213:21
ubottupaulens12: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions13:21
hexadecimalhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5719852/ trying to install ubuntu through USB on my acer one. whats going on??13:21
prem__i can connect a ubuntu machine with 389-ds setup in ubuntu.,but i couldn't change my password when logging in as directory user13:21
gordonjcpnothappy: oh well, sucks to be you I guess13:21
prem__how can i achieve the password policy settings of 389 server in ubuntu client13:21
joel_soy_el_pulpo: lol :D13:22
nothappygordonjcp: help?13:22
gordonjcpnothappy: what was the question?13:22
nothappyhello! how do i remove something from the menu bar? i accidently put a folder there...13:22
paulens12gordonjcp: thanks13:22
gordonjcpnothappy: is this in Unity?13:22
qfwfqguest3028: Highlight.13:22
nothappygordonjcp: gnome fallback mode13:22
nothappythe gnome-panel package13:22
EaglemanDoes rsnapshot skip mounted folders?13:22
gordonjcpnothappy: ooh, I don't use that.  What happens if you right-click it?13:23
nothappygordonjcp: it just says launch or properties13:23
podman99hey all, looking to SSH authenticate via a MySQL database, to store all of my users, however I wish to generate keys for them? any ideas?13:23
gordonjcpnothappy: what happens if you try dragging it off the menu bar?13:23
nothappygordonjcp: "error while copying13:23
nothappy"13:23
nothappygordonjcp: it tries to copy the shortcut to the desktop13:24
nothappyi want it gone!13:24
gordonjcpnothappy: right click on the menu bar, see if there's something there13:24
nothappygordonjcp: nothing happens when you do that13:25
gordonjcpnothappy: hm, you should be able to get the menu bar properties13:25
EaglemanDoes rsnapshot skip mounted folders?13:25
gordonjcpnothappy: delete ~/.gnome2 ? ;-)13:25
nothappygordonjcp: can i access them from somewhere else?13:25
betraydmaybe he has the pirate version13:25
gordonjcpnothappy: settings menu maybe?  I haven't used Gnome for a couple of years now13:26
nothappygordonjcp: :@13:26
betraydsee the pattern now13:26
betraydoh for two13:27
ozcanesenhey i installed flash player and i can watch videos, but i can't play only youtube videos? i know this is not ubuntu related but i have no idea where to ask.13:27
blodiakhi13:28
betraydozcanesen install flashplugin13:28
ozcanesenbetrayd, from adobe?13:29
makarawhy is my iPod mounting read-only? I can't add music13:29
EaglemanDoes rsnapshot skip mounted folders?13:29
betraydozcanesen no your software sources13:29
nothappyeveryone told me to install ubuntu... and then you can't even remove a folder from the menu bar! unbelievable13:29
ozcanesenbetrayd, that one installed, i can play videos. onyl youtube videos doesn't play13:29
nothappygordonjcp: help me!13:29
betraydozcanesen open a different browser check if its broken there too13:30
gordonjcpnothappy: you're using something that I have never used, that only vaguely resembles something I haven't used for years13:30
gordonjcpnothappy: why are you using Gnome fallback mode anyway?  Use Unity...13:30
betraydand start clean thats not a bad idea13:31
chenqisuiwhen i install a software, it prompt Package dependencies cannot be resolved13:31
chenqisuiThis error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time13:31
nothappygordonjcp: it doesn't matter what i use. you should be able to remove a folder!13:31
nothappy:@13:31
gordonjcpwell, I don't know how to, I've suggested what I'd try13:32
gordonjcpnothappy: for what it's worth, I've no idea how to do that on Windows XP either, because I've never used it13:32
nothappyi'm gonna start pulling my hair out13:32
betraydof the drain?13:33
paulens12people please help me...13:33
paulens12my web server can't access the files13:34
cfhowlett!details|paulens12,13:34
ubottupaulens12,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."13:34
paulens12cfhowlett: i have already told the details twice13:34
paulens12ubuntu 13.04 x6413:34
Picipaulens12: Please pastebin exactly what you are doing and the output, as well as the permissions on the file.13:34
cfhowlettpaulens12, stuff scrolls up and you're only one post among hundreds.  restating the issue at reasonable intervals for new readers might be wise13:35
nothappygordonjcp: i figured it out! ha!13:35
nothappyi'm the best!13:35
paulens12guys, do you have like snippet books or something?13:35
paulens12here we go...13:36
paulens12Cannot load or save configuration13:36
paulens12Please create web server writable folder config in phpMyAdmin top level directory as described in documentation. Otherwise you will be only able to download or display it.13:36
paulens12this is what PMA gives. now i don't know how to fix this13:36
Picipaulens12: How did you install phpmyadmin?13:36
paulens12Pici: download and extract...13:36
Picipaulens12: From apt-get?13:37
paulens12Pici: from the web13:37
paulens12Pici: i have no idea what package name it uses13:37
Picipaulens12: Use the package in the repositories. its phpmyadmin13:37
Pici!info phpmyadmin13:37
ubottuphpmyadmin (source: phpmyadmin): MySQL web administration tool. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:3.5.8.1-1 (raring), package size 6050 kB, installed size 18522 kB13:37
paulens12Pici: ah....13:37
paulens12Pici: this thing is a pain in my ass13:38
paulens12Pici: now how will i access it?13:38
Picipaulens12: What do you mean?13:38
EaglemanDoes rsnapshot skip mounted folders?13:38
paulens12Pici: where will it extract the files?13:38
paulens12Pici: what's the URL?13:39
Picipaulens12: It will install all of the files in the proper locations. You should be able to access it from http://yourhostname/phpmyadmin/13:39
paulens12Pici: so it will be in /var/www/phpmyadmin?13:40
paulens12Pici: it's not there13:40
gordonjcpurgh, phpmyadmin13:40
gordonjcpmake sure you post all your passwords somewhere fairly visible13:40
paulens12yeah yeah13:40
Picipaulens12: no. Why do you need to know where it puts its files?13:40
paulens12Pici: 40413:41
paulens12Pici: because otherwise i can't access it.13:41
skuftis there really a big difference between ubuntu/kubuntu/etc13:41
paulens12Pici: i need to configure it before using13:41
voxskuft: only in the graphical interface13:41
paulens12skuft: preinstalled apps13:41
voxmore or less13:41
Picipaulens12: You shouldn't need to configure it. It should automagically detect your mysql install,.13:41
skuftcool thanks13:41
skuftdo photoshop brush files work in GIMP anyonne know??13:42
voxskuft: and even then, you can just install whichever desktop you want anyway13:42
paulens12Pici: ok so how do i access it?13:42
Picipaulens12: First make sure that phpmyadmin.conf exists in /etc/apache2/conf.d/13:43
BluesKajskuft, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5PvYW_3ogs13:43
paulens12Pici: it doesn't13:44
paulens12Pici: but i installed it in apt-get13:44
Picipaulens12: Okay, so do: sudo ln -s /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf13:44
LarsNis there a way to safely clean up old kernel versions from the /boot directory?13:45
paulens12Pici: ok done13:45
* LarsN is out of space on /boot13:45
Picipaulens12: no sudo service apache2 restart13:45
paulens12Pici: oh it works! :D thank you very much13:46
Picipaulens12: np :)13:46
snpresenthello13:46
snpresentwhy not start a project named UBUNTU/HURD to give GNU a big push !!!13:46
scorallyspourquoi on peu pas mètre G13  logitech13:47
Pici1fr | scorallys13:47
cfhowlett!fr|scorallys,13:47
Pici!fr | scorallys13:47
ubottuscorallys,: Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.13:47
ubottuscorallys: Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.13:47
scorallysmoi parle que le français13:47
cfhowlettsnpresent, hurd?  seriously?  if hurd needs "a push" after years of development ... perhaps better to let it die a peaceful death13:48
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snpresentcfhowlett like debian/HURD does,believe me we need it13:49
cfhowlettsnpresent, good luck with that13:50
betrayddidn't they just do a release? where you been13:50
fahadmHello , i seem to be unable to setup tinyOS on ubuntu13:50
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hnszANy Idea why ubuntu doesn't immediately offer drivers for my wifi dongle?  NetGear, Inc. WNDA3100v2 802.11abgn [Broadcom BCM4323]13:50
moondoggyDoes anyone know a keystroke to get the ~ over an n or the ' over an i?13:51
ActionParsnip!broadcom | hnsz13:51
ubottuhnsz: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx13:51
ActionParsnipmoondoggy: gnucharmap may have it13:51
snpresentcfhowlett thanks13:52
moondoggyOk, I'll Google it.  Thanks, ActionParsnip .13:52
hnszActionParsnip:  thanks you13:52
minimecmoondoggy: That depends on the keyboard layout. on my swiss keyboard it would be <AltGr>^n -> ñ ...13:53
Krupptfahadm: tinyOS is another type of GNU/Linux operating system13:53
moondoggyI'm not getting it.  Is Gr like 'ctrl'?13:54
believethebibleRepent now! For the Kingdom of God is at hand!13:54
minimecmoondoggy: That would be the <alt> key right of the space key13:54
believethebible!ops | Repent now! For the Kingdom of God is at hand!13:55
ubottuRepent now! For the Kingdom of God is at hand!: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!13:55
ActionParsnipwell, that ghad only one result13:55
moondoggyOh, altgr is one key.  Gotcha.13:55
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BluesKajwow , someone curses and swears for 5mins in here and doesn't get banned , but one religious quote and it's instantaneous ...wonder where the priorities lie here13:57
MyrttiBluesKaj: they lie in the fact that this fellow has a modus operandi and I can't be looking at the channel all the time.13:58
RandomnickHello, i'm on ubuntu 13.04, i'm looking for propritary drivers for my graphic card "ATI RS740". It shows me i'm using "Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS740". But I don't find them, someone could help me ?13:59
BluesKajMyrtti, I'm talking about the fact that ops aren't notified at all sometimes when ppl are abusing the chat with curses and F words etc , but a religious quote gets immediate attention14:00
MyrttiBluesKaj: if you notice, he called it himself.14:00
adamkRandomnick: AMD dropped support for that GPU a few releases ago.  There is a legacy driver they support, but it requires downgrading all of Xorg.  There is a PPA for the legary driver if you decide to go that route (though I personally don't think it's worth it).14:00
Myrtti(which is part of his MO=14:01
k1l_at least the one triggert the op alarm himself. so the ops get highlighted14:01
Randomnickadamk : I'm looking for it, what's the name of the PPA ?14:01
MyrttiBluesKaj: you can just call the ops or pop in to -ops the next time you want us to look at something more closely.14:01
adamkRandomnick: A quick google search turns up this: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx14:02
snpresentwhen system report bugs it not let you login launchpad in 13.04,why?14:02
RandomnickIf there is a problem, how can I get back further ?14:04
BluesKajMyrtti, personally i don't care much what ppl say , except for cluttering up the chat with offtopic chatter and abuse, ..I'm just noting the reaction to those comments14:04
Randomnick(to adamk )14:04
jackw411hey guys, I'm struggling to work out the best method of getting fireworks/photoshop going on 12.04LTS, its the last piece of the puzzle before I uninstall windows completely... gimp won't cut it14:16
jackw411anybody got any advice?14:16
adam_mjackw411: how much memory do you have on your machine14:17
jackw4118gb - but my vidya card has been put on legacy support recently - so i dunno about wm adam_m14:18
jackw411vm*14:18
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adam_mjackw411: well i mean either way its going to have to emulate windows in some form. So your going to either have to run a VM with windows or try and get it running using wine14:19
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jackw411adam_m: whats the easiest vm to set up?14:20
jacklkAbout half the time I try to boot Ubuntu the screen goes black and starts flickering, then goes blue but it never boots up, just stays there flickering. Anyone know what it could be?14:20
adam_mjackw411: just set up virtual box, and install either windows xp, or windows 7.14:20
jackw411adam_m: currently using the open source graphics drivers that come with ubuntu: will I need to use proprietary ones  to get it working?14:21
adam_mjackw411: likely on the windows VM yes, I would say your best bet would just be googling around to see what other people have done.14:22
adam_mjackw411: that would be the best way, use someones tutorial with all the kinks worked out already14:23
MonkeyDustin our series of useless cron jobs: pm-suspend @reboot14:25
adam_mjackw411: although admirable, id say that if you insist that you need to use non-free software, you are better off just running windows for it, simply because it will be the most efficient with resources. I dual booted windows and ubuntu for a while when i had lots of programs on windows that i would regularly use.14:25
jattdmesg says:14:29
jatt[21496.933733] type=1400 audit(1370010092.223:20): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_replace" name="/sbin/dhclient" pid=13218 comm="apparmor_parser"14:29
jatt 14:29
jattwhat does it mean?14:29
FloodBot1jatt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:29
jattubuntu 12.04.214:30
nicksmithquick question, if I have a load of machines remotely deployed without the ability to centrally manage them and the apt repos have just been switched off, what's the best solution to point them to the new server location?14:30
nicksmithspecifically, 11.04 machines14:31
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MonkeyDustnicksmith  better ask in #ubuntu-server14:32
oooaaaoooohi guys im trying to compile a 32 bit c program on a 64 bit machine but am getting errors http://pastebin.com/z6yuPALQ . Can someone help me?14:32
nicksmithMonkeyDust: I thought that was for Ubuntu server installs? These are standard desktop installs14:33
noob7hey, I think I found a imo critical but in 12.04. After mounting an ntfs drive I created a new folder (and put some files in it) then unmounted and rebooted into XP. After sharing this folder in XP and then turn off the sharting of that folder I can not access this folder!!14:33
noob7*bug ;)14:33
noob7I get a access denied message in XP14:34
ShariffHi there14:34
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minimecnicksmith: Consider an upgrade of all these machines. Upgrade of 11.04 machines would be 11.04 -> 11.10 -> 12.04. In the meantime you can point them to http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/. If you need to install additional stuff before the upgrade.14:35
ShariffI'm considering using ubuntu, primarily as a server so I would download Ubuntu Server. However, I would also use it for XBMC (media center).. Would Ubuntu Server still be a good match or would desktop be a better version?14:35
nicksmithminimec: unfortunately they're spread quite far across the country, so it's a non-trivial amount of money to retrieve them14:35
mariannerunning 12.04 on 64 bit..need a digital video card. Any recommendations?14:36
ShariffAny advice?14:40
auronandaceShariff: either would do14:41
oooaaaoooohi guys im trying to compile a 32 bit c program on a 64 bit machine but am getting errors http://pastebin.com/z6yuPALQ . Can someone help me?14:41
ShariffWould one be better than the other?14:41
auronandaceShariff: i suppose it would be best to start with server, then all you need to do is install xbmc and you won't have anything extra that you wouldn't use (desktop version has a bit preinstalled)14:43
auronandace!info xbmc | Shariff14:43
ubottuShariff: xbmc (source: xbmc): XBMC Media Center (arch-independent data package). In component universe, is optional. Version 2:12.0~git20130103.0959-rc3-0ubuntu1b1 (raring), package size 20620 kB, installed size 38161 kB14:43
lovStupid question. I've installed some old gnome clipboard manager via aptitude a week back, and now I want to uninstall it, but I have no idea what it is. It's mostly non-functional; it's an icon at the top right, and none of the options when selecting it work, so I can't see the name via about. Is there any way to figure out what process handles an icon up there?14:43
lovUnfortunately, I've tried and can't guess the name either.14:44
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minimeclov: gedit /var/log/dpkg.log Maybe you find it, when you see the name of it...14:47
ShariffThanks for the advice!14:48
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somsiplov: look through the apt-get log. /var/log/apt/history.log14:52
nielr14:52
ze_12312314:52
geniize_: Yes, we see what you type14:53
lovThere we go, it was glipper. Thanks somsip!14:53
somsiplov: np14:53
anonymoushi14:54
anonymousw sup14:54
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Guest52958hey14:54
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Guest98810hiii ow can i enable autologin in ubuntu 13.0414:55
perelmanHola14:55
perelmanHi!14:55
Guest52958hi14:55
Guest52958hey14:55
ze_hi!14:55
Guest52958usa?14:55
geniiGuest52958: Welcome to the Ubuntu support channel! If you have questions regarding your Ubuntu here is where to ask. For more casual conversation please head to #ubuntu-offtopic14:55
Guest52958i'm korean14:55
perelmanSpain14:55
genii!es | perelman14:55
ubottuperelman: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.14:55
Guest52958spain?14:56
MonkeyDust!ko14:56
ubottu도움이 필요하시면 다음 채널에 조인하십시오. /join #ubuntu-ko14:56
perelmanYeah14:56
oooaaaoooohi guys im trying to compile a 32 bit c program on a 64 bit machine but am getting errors http://pastebin.com/z6yuPALQ . Can someone help me?14:56
somsipoooaaaoooo: try #c (or ##c, I don't recall)14:57
Guest98810hiii how can i enable auto-login in ubuntu 13.0414:57
perelmanI´m finding student´s TIC14:57
minimecGuest98810: You can do that in 'user administration' in the 'settings'14:59
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GhilGood morning everyone14:59
MonkeyDustGhil  other tile zone15:00
MonkeyDusttime*15:00
Guest98810minimec, not there15:00
perelmanWhere are you from Ghil?15:00
GhilI'm from Quebec, in Canada15:00
perelmanwo15:00
perelmanok15:00
Ghilit's 11 in the morning, I'm a late sleeper :P15:00
minimecGuest98810: It's 'user accounts' in 'system settings'15:00
Guest98810hiii how can i enable auto-login in ubuntu 13.04... option isnt there in user accnts15:00
perelmanI´m from Spain15:00
perelmanIt´s 17:0015:01
perelmanHa Ha15:01
Ghilhahaha15:01
_Trullohaha15:01
minimecGuest98810: It's 'greyed out'. You have to 'unlock' in the upper right corner.15:01
nate1Hello all, could someone lend me a hand with burning the15:01
nate1Ubuntu image to a dvd?15:01
MonkeyDustGuest98810  unlock the user first, in system settings15:01
geniiperelman, Ghil : Please use channel #ubuntu-offtopic for just chatting. This channel is only to help assist people with Ubuntu15:02
gordonjcpnate1: download image, burn to dvd15:02
Ghilnate1: which system do you currently have?15:02
gordonjcpnate1: it pretty much answers itself...15:02
Ghiloh right, sorry genii.15:02
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nate1Windows 7, currently. I followed the directions on the ubuntu site and used the windows disk image burner.15:02
Guest98810minimec, MonkeyDust the option is missing in uuntu 13.04 or atleast my laptop15:02
nate1I got this error: 0x8000400515:03
MonkeyDustnate1  ask in ##windows how to handle windows errors15:03
nate1Okay, thanks.15:03
minimecGuest98810: Are you logged in as a user with 'sudo' rights?15:04
nbubuntuanyone here using ubuntu mozila firefox ? user agent ?15:04
nbubuntuI need help on capturing the user agent string or browser info15:04
nbubuntuanyone know the exact way to modified the user agent ?15:05
kbrosnanshould be the same as any Firefox on linux15:05
Guest98810minimec, ? dont know. I am the only user. User account is showing administrative. Isnt root account locked by default and sudo power granted to ifrst user15:05
jimi_When I add a printer, I do not have the option to specify the IP addrss15:05
nbubuntuIf you go to this website , it'll show your user agent http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/features/test/15:06
minimecGuest98810: That's ok then. I don't know why you don't have the 'Automatic Login' option. My 13.04 laptop shows it.15:07
geniinbubuntu: I'm using the Firefox addon User Agent Changer, some sites like my bank don't like the default one so i have to tell it IE15:08
Guest98810minimec, really amusing.. maybe its becoz i installed kde and cinnamon15:08
kbrosnannbubuntu: i'm not on ubunutu but the user agent on linux is going to be like Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/21.0 where the x86_64 and the version numbers can change15:08
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nbubuntukbrosnan , genii : there's some reason which I need to import user agent for firefox 3 and IE6 which some website doesn't load some java15:09
minimecGuest98810: And what wm are you using right now? I use e17 and have to login in a unity session to be able to 'unlock' the system tools.15:09
Guest98810minimec, cinamon15:10
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ElSilvadoreDoes anyone know why the new Skype release is so buggy?15:10
geniinbubuntu: There's a website which the java only works when you tell it firefox 3 or IE6?15:11
joeliook, so I installed 12.04.. grepped dmesg to look for NIC's// all good - shows up as eth{0,1,2,3}15:11
joeliodo an ifconfig15:11
joeliop1p1, p1p2, em1 em215:11
joeliowhich is which then guys?15:11
geniiElSilvadore: I'm tempted to say because MS is resonsible for it now... but who really knows why15:11
joeliowhat is the source of truth dmesg or ifconfig15:11
nate1Hello again, #ubuntu. ##windows was no help at all :(15:12
ElSilvadoreDamn u Microsoft!15:12
nbubuntukbrosnan , genii : i'll try thanks :)15:12
ElSilvadoreWell, if Skype doesn't work I'll use TeamSpeak315:14
newuser_olá15:14
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nate1Would you kind Ubuntu folks mind taking a stab at a windows related question? It'd be much appreciated, since ##windows won't help me.15:14
paulens12nate1: just ask it :D15:14
bellasbellsDoes anyone know where I can find the upstart config files?15:15
nate1Thanks paulens12 :D So,  I tried to burn an Ubuntu image to a DVD using Windows Disc Image Burner. It finished burnning the disk, however, when It went back to verify the disk was burned correctly, I got an error saying "The disc did not burn correctly because an error occurred. (Error code: 0x80004005)." Anyone know what exactly that means or what went wrong?15:15
ElSilvadoreIf you show the files on your CD15:15
MonkeyDustnate1  stick to ubuntu support, please, we can't help ##windows being unhelpful -- windows is an insult to this channel15:15
ElSilvadoreHas Windows just burned an .iso or also an Bootup?15:15
minimecnate1: Did you try that DVD (ignoring the error)?15:16
bellasbellsnate1, try using imgburn15:16
bellasbellsfound the windows disc burner to be a litttle picky sometimes15:16
geniiMonkeyDust: In their defense, they are trying to use it to install Ubuntu ;)15:16
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rahlame ass Shuttleworth changed the goal posts15:17
kbrosnannate1: try using http://infrarecorder.org/?page_id=5 open source cd burner15:17
rahBug #1 is not fixed15:17
nate1Understood, MonkeyDust. bellasbells, If the disk that burned "incorrectly" doesn't work, I'll try that. If It does, I'll talk to you folks on the flip side once I've installed Ubuntu in place of Windows ;)15:17
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rahwhat a let down15:18
kike902you can always try a pendrive15:18
geniinate1: bellasbells' suggestion to try another disc-burning application is probably the best way to see if it's the application or something else15:18
rahkike902: pendrives will not fix bug #115:18
lufusolHello everybody.  I15:18
ubottubug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115:18
nate1Okay. I'll probably be back, thanks for the help everyone. Cheers.15:19
kike902it was for natel15:19
johnjohn1011wondering if 13.04 will run decently on the new amd and new intel chips released this weekend.  Or do you think i'll have to go with the 3.9 or 3.10 kernel?15:19
geniirah: If you want to discuss the merits of that bug, the proper channel is more #ubuntu-offtopic than here.15:19
rahgenii: I disagree15:19
geniirah: It's not a support issue. It's a philosophical issue. Hence not for here.15:20
rahgenii: I disagree15:20
lufusolWhen booting and loading Ubuntu, between the blank purple screen and Ubuntu logo in Plymouth, I always see some text for a couple seconds.  I wrote down the time and dmesg | less until I found it - it says [   10.831627] INFO @wl_cfg80211_attach : Registered CFG80211 phy --My wireless works fine, I'd rather not see this.  How do I get rid of it?15:20
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p0wn3dDoes anyone know the best way to document only files that have changed from a default install of Ubuntu15:22
minimeclufusol: I guess, you cannot get rid of it. You might see that text during the switch 'plymouth -> xserver'15:22
Guest52593Is there a fix for the login screen going black, after login?15:22
lufusolminimec: are you sure I can't get rid of it?  It's the only boot message I see, and it starts with INFO so I'm thinking there's a flag I can set somewhere that says SHUSH!15:24
rahShuttleworth has given up :-/15:24
noob7Guest52593, don't know if you have the same problem but I had a simillar prob and just swichtched to unity2D at the login and no it works15:25
rahnice try but didn't achieve15:25
Myrttirah: please join #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss for further discussion about the subject.15:25
rahMyrtti: no15:25
opentransCan I get a java jar file to run by php command?15:25
minimeclufusol: Ok. I see now. Your 'message' is between 'blank screen -> plymouth', so at the beginning of the boot process. I don't see any message there on my i5 Ivy notebook in 13.04. I have no answer for you, sorry.15:27
krzeeis there an app for ubuntu that is similar to chkconfig in centos? (for managing which apps start on boot)15:28
opentransIs there a way to get a java jar file to run by php command?15:28
krzeefound it, update-rc.d15:31
noob7Guest52593, you have just to click on the ubuntu icon besides your name at the login prompt to switch to 2D15:31
Guest52593I've switched login managers and tried different sessions. Only way to get xfce up is stopping lightdm. And starting thru command line, but now sound is off.15:31
GeorgeJHello folks! I've got a strange issue with installing 3.10. My rootfs is a btrfs filesystem, /boot is ext2. After the instalation finishes and I reboot, grub complains that /grub/i386-pc/normal.mod is not found, leaving me at the rescue terminal. I've installed 13.04 before without problems(with btrfs). What could I be doing wrong15:32
noob7Guest52593,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/74300/how-to-login-into-unity-2d15:32
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Guest52593I reinstalled last week with same problem.  After last update same thing again15:32
noob7oh it's ubuntu2D not unity2D sorry15:32
Guest52958hi15:32
Guest52958hey noob715:32
Guest52958usa?15:32
noob7world15:33
noob7also known as earth15:33
GeorgeJnoob7: You mean Terra?15:35
cnfhe means earth15:36
GeorgeJBtw, if I mount /boot, it doesn't contain grub/i386-pc. However, it does contain 86_64-efi15:36
noob7GeorgeJ, well yes15:36
GeorgeJThe computer has UEFI15:36
xorredmy ubuntu server has 512 RAM, and 'free' shows 90% of it is used already. 'top' however shows only 2-3% busy.... so how do I find out what is using my memory?15:37
soy_el_pulpoxorred: one thing is BUSY and the other is the memory..15:38
soy_el_pulpoxorred: add more memory please15:38
xorredsoy_el_pulpo no thanks this server has 20 visitors per day15:38
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xorredthe problem / question is serious15:39
xorredmy mysql crashes due to low memory15:39
GeorgeJxorred: What do you expect?15:39
xorredGeorgeJ15:39
soy_el_pulpoxorred: a miracle15:39
xorredI expect that my 512 MB server work fine with 20 visitors per day15:39
nascentmindHi. In grub2 how do I get a list of kernels?15:39
GeorgeJxorred: So then, tweak your application to use less RAM.15:40
xorredGeorgeJ, the question was actually to see what is using the RAM15:40
xorredstop being an ass if you dont want to / cannot help15:40
skuftSo I installed GimpShop from a tarball, any idea how I can uninstall it? I don't see it in the listed installed programs15:40
GeorgeJxorred: Sorry, I didn't notice your question. What's wrong with top/htop? Is that not satisfactory?15:41
nascentmindumh never mind.15:41
xorredtop shows just the % of mem and it's showing that most of the mem is free15:41
GeorgeJxorred: So, the next logical step is to look trough mysqls logs15:42
michalhodurHello, everyone!15:43
johnjohn1011xorred, do you have a swap partition?15:43
skufti got it15:43
xorredactually, top shows: Mem:    507628k total,   479104k used,    28524k free,    11800k buffers15:43
xorredso top shows most of it is used15:43
xorredthen, in the columns, mysql/apache only use 1% of mem.....15:43
skuftreally wish there was a good photoshop port for ubuntu ugh15:43
xorredso I can't see who / what uses the memory15:43
GeorgeJxorred: That's ~27.8Mb free15:43
xorredyes, indeed :(15:43
xorredI can't figure out what's using it15:43
james-ubchi! guys, i'm on 12.04 and already installed ubuntu restried extras but still get the gstreamer missing plugin error for mp3s any suggestions?15:44
noob7guys will booting ubuntu with an older kernel break some libs or things like that or is that no problem15:45
GeorgeJSorry, I disconnected.15:45
xorredso if Top does not show what is eating up all my memory, how can I see it?15:46
GeorgeJxorred: You can use <, > to switch on which column tu sort on15:48
james-ubcalready installed gstreamer fluendo mp315:48
ActionParsnipnoob7: booting an older kernel is fine15:48
ActionParsnipnoob7: its why they are kept :)15:48
noob7thx15:48
rootptI am using ubuntu 13.04 and I need to navigate through the folders (not with the console) as root, has some way to do it15:49
A1ReconAny word on the HDMI audio? I am running an AMD GPU and I have to change between my HDMI audio and headphones very often... it's a royal pain.15:50
GeorgeJxorred: Or, `ps aux | awk '{print $2, $4, $11}' | sort -k2r | head -n 10`15:51
xorredoh, GeorgeJ, so apache is using 70% of it...15:51
xorredshows 10 processes each using 8%15:51
xorredstrange, why so many apache processes...15:52
GeorgeJApache has multiple worker processes, so that it can server multiple requests at once.15:52
skufthow can i see hard drive space take/free15:53
GeorgeJAlso, it's probably the modules that use all that memory(probably mod_php, PHP sucks).15:53
GeorgeJskuft: df -h15:53
skuftthanks GeorgeJ15:53
rootptI am using ubuntu 13.04 and I need to navigate through the folders (not with the console) as root, has some way to do it15:54
GeorgeJskuft: If you ment from the console, if not, you can use the Disk Usage Analyser15:54
skuftconsole was fine thanks :)15:54
GeorgeJrootpt: sudo nautilus15:54
GeorgeJOr, gksudo nautilus15:54
rootptby default nautilus come installed in ubuntu 13.04 ?15:54
GeorgeJNautilus is the default file browser in Ubuntu, yes.15:55
A1ReconHas the HDMI audio been solved?15:55
A1ReconRunning an AMD15:55
dude707I created a usb drive to boot ubuntu and install with , i did this from in side windows ... when i booted from usb i was able to install Ubuntu 13.04 . but now my usb drive is saying it's "W95 FAT-32(bootable)" and when i try to format it inside Ubuntu,I get an error called error5 in/out something . and i noticed that when i plugged it into my hdtv i saw a ".disk" file that I know doesn't show up on Linux. is this ".disk" file a pro15:55
dude707blem ? how do I format this PENDRIVE back to a normal fat-32 usb drive again ?15:55
rootptGeorgeJ: thanks man.15:56
GeorgeJNo problemo15:56
GeorgeJdude707: You need to unmount the drive to be able to format it.15:57
dude707i think i did unmount it but i am not sure what that means or how to do that15:58
GeorgeJdude707: How are you formatting the drive?15:59
dude707it says it's mounted a /media ? whats that and how do i unmount this ? i am trying to format it in the drives app15:59
nathhi guys.. best irc app for ubuntu ?15:59
dude707Xchat15:59
GeorgeJnath: Quassel16:00
lufusollater fellas16:00
nathusing xchat ..will try Quassel . thaks16:00
nath*thanks16:00
GeorgeJdude707: You should also be able to unmount it from the file exlporer(the eject icon).16:00
ro9irssi16:00
rubdosJust upgraded from 12.04 to 13.04 via 12.10. I see that the thunderbird icon in the launcher doesn't anymore display the number of new mails, is this a bug or something else?16:00
skufti dislike irssi16:00
dude707yeah i tried that but it wonk work .. here let me tell you exacly what i do ..16:01
dude707ok i ejected it , now i am going to open the "disks" app16:01
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dude707ok now that i ejected the usb drive it wont show up in the "disks" app16:02
GeorgeJdude707: Pull the stick and put it back in.16:03
GeorgeJdude707: FYI. I/O error usually means there's something wrong with the hardware16:03
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ro9dude707, try yumi installer16:04
GeorgeJro9: Wat? He's trying to format the stick16:04
zamsahey guys. whats linux swap?16:06
trismrubdos: do you have thunderbird-gnome-support installed?16:06
GeorgeJzamsa: Swap is used to store data when the RAM is full.16:06
mbeierl!swap | zamsa16:06
ubottuzamsa: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info16:06
rubdostrism, I 'll check later on, I'm on fedora now ;)16:07
robotdevilHi, I am trying to find out if a cron job is actually running, it is not set as a crontab but is just under /etc/cron.daily/trim. I have been looking in /var/logs/syslog and see no mention of it16:07
GeorgeJzamsa: If you don't have swap, and the RAM gets filled, your applications won't be able to allocate memory for themselves, which means they'll probably crash(not entirely true, but it's mostly how it works).16:07
rubdos(sorry for using the f-word)16:07
dude707@georgeJ there is nothing wrong with the hardware , I just used it as a bootable drive to install Ubuntu , thats the problem I think .. I cant get rid of these other folders boot/casper/autorun.ini etc...16:07
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ActionParsniprobotdevil: is there mention of it in the crontab log?16:08
sharpieHow do I make new apparmour config for lightdm?  Trying to figue the blackscreen after login.16:08
ActionParsniprobotdevil: or add to the cron to add to a log of some kind when it kicks off (handy if your cron job runs a script rather than commands)16:08
dude707basically how to format a usb once its been set up in windows as a bootable drive for ubuntu install ?16:10
robotdevilActionParsnip: sorry someone called.  I was following this https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd  part 7.216:10
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robotdevilActionParsnip: I think it setup like that so I it is for all users16:11
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robotdevilActionParsnip: I have to be root just to view /var/spool/crontab?16:12
robotdevil#/var/spool/cron/crontab*16:13
GeorgeJAfter an instalation of Ubuntu 13.04, grubs dump me to an recovery console after complaining that /grub/i386-pc/normal.mod doesn't exist. The system has UEFI, I've formatted the /boot partition as ext2, could this be the issue?16:13
dickDoes anyone screw with a mule?16:13
GeorgeJdude707: Try formatting it again with the disk utility, and paste the error somewhere please.16:14
seronisrobotdevil:  yes that directory doesnt have +r permissions for anyone but owner (root)16:14
sharpieTitle: xfce4-session crashed with signal 5 in main()16:14
GeorgeJsharpie: Up the butt?16:14
robotdevilseronis:hmmm. ok but there is nothing there16:14
dude707GeorgeJ what is a "disk utility"? you mean the "disks" app in the app section ?16:14
GeorgeJdude707: Yes16:15
Fuzzlesdoes ubuntu 12.04 LTS opensource drivers get updated with 13,04s drivers?16:16
dude707GeorgeJ , check this out , when the usb is not "ejected" then i can do things with it. but when it's ejected , it just shows up in the disk utility as Sony Storage Media drive dev/sdb. but i cant do anything with it. all the options are greyed out16:16
seronisis there any way to have 'sudo' commands inherit the aliases of the user issuing the command ?16:16
GeorgeJdude707: Formatting doesn't work either?16:16
dude707GeorgeJ how can i format it when the options are greyed out ?16:17
gordonjcpdude707: because it's been ejected16:17
ActionParsniprobotdevil: You may find your user has read access16:17
gordonjcpdude707: it's no longer active then, you see16:17
gordonjcpdude707: what are you trying to do?16:17
dude707GeorgeJ so you want me to put it back in ? all i can do now is "edit mount options" ..16:18
zamsawhat is sudo? where is this sudoers file?16:18
skuftsudo = fake16:18
gordonjcp!sudo | zamsa16:18
ubottuzamsa: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo16:18
GeorgeJdude707: To be honest, I don't have much experience with the disk utility. I use the CLI for most of my disk work.16:18
soy_el_pulposudo means "I sweat" in spanish16:18
ActionParsnipzamsa: run:  export EDITOR=nano; sudo visudo16:18
ActionParsnipskuft: how is it fake?16:18
skuftActionParsnip: Webster defines sudo as fake16:18
seronisskuft:  you're being unhelpful16:19
ActionParsnipskuft: do you mean "pseudo"16:19
nullby7ecan i use add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 to debian?16:19
skuftActionParsnip: Yes, you are correct. My bad.16:19
fwissesSorry for such a vague noob question, but do you know what to do when the graphics driver crashes?16:19
gordonjcpdude707: so, what are you trying to do with this drive?16:19
GeorgeJzamsa: sudo helps you impersonate other users, usually root.16:19
robotdevilActionParsnip: so i can see it /etc/cron.daily but where does it log to, even if if it is not setup to log, something must record it no? also how do I tell what time it runs?16:20
Fuzzlesdoes ubuntu 12.04 LTS opensource drivers get updated with 13,04s drivers?16:20
dude707gordon, I created a bootable usb from within windows to install Ubuntu ok . now that usb stick is acting funny to me . i use it to watch movies on my hdtv primarlity just to transfer .mkv and .avi files ... but is has this hidden ".disk " file and wont let me format it16:20
fwissesYou see, I was installing 12.04 on a now-kind-of-old computer from around 200816:20
gordonjcpdude707: format it from what?16:20
fwissesI didn't check its graphics driver, it was basically an AMD Athlon 6416:20
OerHeksnullby7e, better ask in #debian16:20
dude707gordon, let me try this16:21
fwissesbut anyway, while it was installing, all was good16:21
gordonjcp!tab | dude70716:21
fwissesI rebooted into 12.04, and immediately started the update to 12.1016:21
ubottudude707: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.16:21
dude707huh?16:21
fwissesWell, halfway into installing 12.10, the screen froze, I moved to TTY1 but couldn't seem to type anything16:21
fwissesIt kept giving the message around the lines of [drm] cannot idle channel16:22
fwisses(1 - 4)16:22
dude707i am using xchat and i have no ide how to "reply"16:22
zamsacan i impersonate any user other than root?16:22
fwissesand it kept cycling between cannot cycle channel 1, 2, 3, 416:22
GeorgeJzamsa: Yes, you can16:22
dude707ok tab16:23
skuftI was reading an article and lost it - they were saying you can install windows on a virtual machine and then install windows programs which you can then run right from linux desktop16:23
skuftanyone know about that16:23
GeorgeJzamsa: You should check man sudo, an example would be: sudo -u <user> <command>16:23
seronis!wine | skuft16:23
ubottuskuft: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu16:23
fwissesso it started switching to X or something. Anyway, orange and purple ubuntu colors were tiled in a mad array which looked nothing like my screen16:23
skuftseronis: wine doesn't work with photoshop16:23
fwissesSo I left the house16:23
fwissesa few hours later, the person watching the computer called16:23
ActionParsnipnullby7e: debian isn't supported here16:24
fwissesand said it is giving a message that it is running in low-graphics mode and that the cursor is an X16:24
ActionParsnipskuft: you can run a virtualbox OS in seamless mode16:24
zamsaGeorgeJ: thankyou..:)16:24
robotdevilActionParsnip: thanks I think I found a better solution16:24
fwissesSadly, I can't look at the computer now, nor can I access the internet at that location16:24
skuftActionParsnip: thanks thats exactly what i was asking about16:24
dude707xchat sucks i have no idea how to reply on here ... i am going to get quassel and bll16:24
fabio123~karma ActionParsnip16:24
ActionParsnipskuft: you will se the start menu and apps on the desktpo but they will not be in a big desktop window of their own16:24
skuftdude707: get Konversation16:24
fwissesonly that computer which crashed can access teh internet there, but I'm getting off topic16:25
ActionParsnipdude707: just type16:25
seronisdude707: just type someones name and then your reply16:25
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ActionParsnipfabio123: check launchpad. I have lots of karma :)16:25
fwissesanyway, long story short graphics driver crashed, and after a few hours it went into low-graphics mode16:25
ActionParsnipdude707: you canuse TAB to autocomplete nicks16:25
fwissesand I'm wondering did the updates to 12.10 install16:25
dude707skuft for real dude dont play and waste my time is it the cool ? beacuse i am a stoner and i need easy to use stuff16:25
skuftdude707: I use Konversation - it's the closest you can get to mIRC and I love it. It's VERY easy to use.16:26
GeorgeJmIRC sucks16:26
dude707skuft , does it have a reply click ?16:26
ActionParsnipskuft: irssi is a lot closer to mirc16:26
skuftmIRC does not suck.16:26
GeorgeJOnly thing that mIRC did decently was its scripts.16:26
ActionParsnipskuft: irssi also allows you to run perl scripts which is a lot more flexible than mirc code16:26
skuftewwww irssi16:26
fwissesDoes anybody know if the upgrade continues after a grahics driver crash in ubuntu?16:26
zamsachatzilla is good..:)16:27
dude707i just want to click on the person name and reply , what the heck is this tab thing i have no idea wtf!!116:27
ActionParsnipskuft: the scripting as an IRC client is pretty top notch16:27
dude707bll16:27
ActionParsnipdude707: type the word 'act' then hit tab16:27
GeorgeJI like Quassel because integrated awesome BNC.16:27
seronisdude707:  do you mean reply in chat or reply to a priv msg ?16:27
dude707ActionParsnip,16:27
ActionParsnipdude707: no need to take your hands off the keyboard16:27
ActionParsnipdude707: exactly16:27
ActionParsnipdude707: so you dont need to click anything16:27
dude707zamsa,16:27
dude707GeorgeJ,16:28
dude707you guys are great !16:28
ActionParsnipdude707: just type a few letters in the name, hit TAB then type what you want to say to that person16:28
fwissesAnd do you know if there's anything I can do, other than reboot?16:28
GeorgeJYou don't need to press enter after each tab, you can continue to write your message, you can even have someone's nick in the middle of a sentence.16:28
dude707gordonjcp,16:28
ActionParsnipfwisses: what video chip do you use?16:29
fwissesActionParsnip: Never had the chance to check16:29
fwissesSorry, I know it's dumb16:29
fwissesbut it is a DRM error16:29
ActionParsnipfwisses: does the system have a make and model?16:29
fwissesSorry, no idea16:29
ActionParsnipfwisses: look around the system and see16:30
fwissesActionParsnip: It's not with me16:30
fwissesand I can't access the Internet at its location16:30
fwissesShoulda just used a notepad, but it didn't seem important at the time16:31
fwissesI'm hoping its just a general question16:31
fwissesOh!16:31
fwissesThat just slipped my mind and its an important detail, it asked to install proprietary drivers16:31
fwissesSo the first install I did, I installed the proprietary drivers16:32
fwissesA few seconds after I clicked to install them, graphics crash16:32
fwissesSo I stupidly assumed it was the proprietary drivers causing it16:32
fwissesBut anyway, I think this is a general, video-card independant question16:33
ratcliffGood Afternoon Gentlemen16:33
fwissesA question of whether or not the updates installed16:33
ratcliffWhat is the topic at hand for discussion?16:33
dude707oh man , this pendrive is not the end of the world , i just dont get it , W95 FAT32 (LBA) (Bootable) mounted at dev/sdb. but when i try to format it, it asks me if i want to "overwrite existing with zero's slow, i said yes, compatibel with all sytems and devices MBR/DOS yes, format, yes, are you sure you want to format, ERROR FORMATTING DISK! Error synchronizing after initial wipe: Timed out waiting for object (udisks-error-quark, 0)16:33
jjavaholicI have a problem with my sound in that I don't have any16:34
fwissesratcliff: We were talking about an Ubuntu ice cream16:34
jjavaholicsudo alsa force-reload16:34
jjavaholicUnloading ALSA sound driver modules: (none loaded).16:34
jjavaholicLoading ALSA sound driver modules: (none to reload).16:34
ratcliffLovely16:34
jjavaholic3.8.0-23-generic16:35
jjavaholicwhat you you suggest next?16:35
jjavaholicwould^16:35
dude707mounted at /media/"yournamehere"/d273-...16:36
dude707Error deleting partition /dev/sdb1: Command-line `parted --script "/dev/sdb" "rm 1"' exited with non-zero exit status 1: Error: Partition /dev/sdb1 is being used. You must unmount it before you modify it with Parted.16:36
dude707 (udisks-error-quark, 0)16:36
ratcliffSo gentlemen, What is your call about Ubuntu TV and the Ubuntu Tablet?  What do you believe is Ubuntu's next step in world domination?16:37
bazhang!ot | ratcliff16:38
ubotturatcliff: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:38
dude707ubottu, Error deleting partition /dev/sdb1: Command-line `parted --script "/dev/sdb" "rm 1"' exited with non-zero exit status 1: Error: Partition /dev/sdb1 is being used. You must unmount it before you modify it with Parted.16:39
dude707 (udisks-error-quark, 0)any clue as to what i gotta do here ?16:39
ubottudude707: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:39
ratcliffI wasn't aware that this was just support, my apologies16:39
jhutchins_wkdude707: usb drives have short lives.16:39
dude707jhutchins_wk, whatever16:39
jhutchins_wkdude707: I'm more familiar with fdisk, what does fdisk -l /dev/sdb say?16:40
dude707jhutchins_wk, what is fdisk first of all16:40
seronisfor viewing/editing the disk partition table16:41
seronis-l just lists info16:41
dude707seronis, what is -l ?16:42
seronisi just said.  it lists info16:42
seronisfdisk -l /dev/sdb16:42
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dude707-l: command line not found16:42
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seronisyou need to type fdisk,   -l  is an option for fdisk16:43
dude707seronis, ok now you are speaking japanes16:43
seronisfdisk -l /dev/sdb16:43
dude707ok you know what ? that is some whatever16:44
Phryqhey, when I try to create a new machine in virtualbox I get this, http://pastie.org/798962916:44
PhryqI'm running Ubuntu 13.04, new install16:44
dude707ok cannot open /dev/sdb16:45
adamkPhryq: And did you do what it suggested?16:45
JohannKrausshello. is there any way I can access my iphone file on ubuntu?16:46
skuftwhen I buy a music track from ubuntu one store i get 20gigs - is that for life?16:46
dude707i give up16:46
skuftdude707: what are you trying to do16:46
PhryqI typed 'sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' into a terminal, and got a command not found. Sorry, I don't know what I'm doing at all16:46
bazhangskuft, I would ask in #ubuntuone16:46
JohannKraussjust tried the libimobiledevice16:47
skuftis the 20gig promotion for life or for 6 months16:47
theadminPhryq: Eh, just install virtualbox-dkms16:47
JohannKraussnothing happens :(16:47
utopiah_hi #ubuntu , is it possible to make a directory of my laptop with Ubuntu look like a USB stick? (to plug on my TV)16:47
skuftoops16:47
skuftwrong chan16:47
theadminutopiah_: ...what? I mean, in theory yes, is possible, but how would you "plug" it in anyway?16:47
utopiah_theadmin: USB cable16:48
theadminutopiah_: ...That won't work16:48
Phryqtheadmin, just type sudo apt-get virtualbox-dkms ?16:48
theadminPhryq: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-dkms , rather16:48
Phryqok, thanks16:48
dude707boot/casper/DISTS/EFI/install/isolinux/pics/pool/preseed/autorun.ini... these sound familiar ? they are stuck on my usb and there is a hidden .disk file too . anyone got any clue how to format this thing back to a normal fat-32 stick?16:48
utopiah_ah ok, well Ill keep on using normal sticks then16:49
Phryq"E: Unable to locate package virtualbox-dkm"16:49
theadminPhryq: You missed an s16:49
Phryqhaha, the s did it! thanks16:49
theadmindude707: Eh, sounds like you have turned your stick into an Ubuntu install media. That has several partitions. Open GParted and recreate the device's partition table, then make a partition and format it to fat32. You can use the Disk Utility as well16:50
Phryqhmmm, still getting the same error16:50
Phryqshould I restart my machine?16:50
dude707skuft, you see my post ? i told you i created this usb install from inside windows , and it worked and i got ubunut now , windows is gone , i want to format this stick back to normal but its acting funny , thats what i been saying man !16:50
theadminPhryq: Possibly, not sure... Should just work I think16:50
zamsawhat's ubuntu in-target?16:50
theadminPhryq: Are you using Virtualbox from the Ubuntu repositories or from virtualbox.org?16:50
recon_laphi all, having a problem with a session at bootup, one session if selected all the window controls are missing, no title bar, no close, resize ect. so how do you delete fubar'd session?16:51
ironhalikbug #116:51
ubottubug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116:51
dude707theadmin , now say that again ? GParted? i dont know that hold on let me see16:51
theadmindude707: It's not in a default Ubuntu install, the Disk Utility is though16:52
theadmindude707: Can use both16:52
PhryqI'm using the repositories16:52
dude707theadmin, ok if you read all my other post i said what happend in the disk utility .. it fails to format16:52
theadmindude707: Ah, okay, well I didn't see that... Then just try GParted I guess16:52
dude707theadmin i tried to use the disk utility and i got messed up let me post the error message agin ?16:53
JohannKraussgot no one use iDevice with ubuntu here?16:53
dude707o let me try the GParted then16:53
dude707i can get GParted in Ubuntu software center ?16:53
dude707hey man my tab button is acting crazy what happened16:54
theadmindude707: Sure you can16:55
recon_lapdude707: gparted is normally used with a boot disk,  http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php16:56
dude707hey man why cant i shorcut nicks anymore iwth my tab button ? this is going crazy ?16:56
sharpieWhat steps to look for Blackscreen after login.  Session doesn't start.16:56
theadminrecon_lap: That's not necessary when operating on a USB stick16:56
sharpieWhat causes it16:56
skuftisn't the command to connect /server Ip.address.here port# username:pass17:00
skuftfor ZNC17:00
sharpieIs there a fix for the blackscreen after login?17:01
johnjohn1011new amd catalyst driver for 13.04 is out!  about time.17:02
ironhalikjohnjohn1011: in the repos, or on amd servers?17:03
johnjohn1011ironhalik: looks like it's beta.  i just read on amdzone.com17:03
johnjohn1011ironhalik: 13.6 beta for linux. I wonder if i can install.17:04
cuddylierWhy does http://pastebin.com/gUuRcigs say 'Unexpected end of file' when ran?17:05
ironhalikjohnjohn1011: I could try. Compiz Scale plugins lags on my 7770. Maybe some drivers will finally resolve it17:06
l057c0d3rsigh..   something went wrong with my facebook to empathy online account again..  told me i needed to re grant permissions.. so i did..  didn't work..  still would not connect..  so i deleted my account from online accounts.. and went to re add it..17:07
l057c0d3rnow instead of opening in the online accounts it starts to load it.. then opens up my web browser.. sais sucess.. but since its not in the online accounts window..  does not add the account...17:07
adamkcuddylier: Seems pretty obvious...  One of the unzip commands unexpectedly hit the end of the file...17:07
l057c0d3rsigh.. this happened a few months back as well..17:07
l057c0d3ranyone else have this issue today?17:08
GeorgeJConsidering I'm on an UEFI system. Is there an alternative to grub? Why can't I just boot the kernel17:08
ironhalikGeorgeJ: You can. I'm not sure how, on Ubuntu, but it's ceratinly possible in Arch17:09
johnjohn1011ironhalik: thanks. seems like amd always lags about 1-2 months after an ubuntu release.17:09
cuddylieradamk So the zip file is corrupt?17:10
adamkcuddylier: Seems unlikely, yes.17:10
cuddylierseems likely you mean?17:10
adamkD'oh, yes, stupid fingers.17:10
cuddylier:D17:10
Gercaswho know how to do frenly urls HTACCESS17:11
Gercas? pleace help17:11
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Gercashttp://www.konstitucija.lt/test/index.php?article=Naujienos&a=Naujienos&page=modules&btn=Naujienos17:11
eject_ckHi, I want use gmail as relay for postfix. I see that ubuntu's postfix is compiled without libssl. Does anybody have experiense with using Gmail as relay with ubuntu's default binary package?17:11
modernbobanyone know of an gui app that will do check disk on a ntf drive17:13
felix1505hi17:13
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felix1505hallo:)17:14
bhankinsHow do I get an application that doesn't give me an icon the left taskbar to have one when I start it up so I can lock it to there? If that can't be done, where do I need to go add my own filter to make a "favorites" type section in launcher for my applications?17:14
pcnHi #ubuntu17:15
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MagicarpI've installed my radeon 7790 but there's no other driver listings in 'additional drivers'.17:16
sharpieMy session managaer will no longer start xfce4 after last update.17:16
pcnDoes anyone else using ec2 see a problem with permissions on the snmpd package?17:17
pcnI'm getting Err http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-updates/main snmpd amd64 5.4.3~dfsg-2ubuntu1.117:17
pcn  403  Forbidden17:17
pcnWhich is breaking my installs17:17
sharpiedns issue17:17
cuddylieradamk Just tried again, the zip is not corrupt whatsoever, I added that 2nd one to the file and then it broke.17:17
sharpie/etc/resolv.conf17:17
sharpieor it's misspelled17:18
sharpiecould remove that space in there17:18
ufomanhi17:18
ufomananyone here using ubuntu-core for nexus 7?17:19
MagicarpHow can I check if Ubuntu recognises the new GPU?17:19
geniipcn: You may want to enquire in #ubuntu-server channel , odds are someone in there could be more helpful in this situation.17:19
sharpielspvi -vvv17:19
sharpielspci -vvv17:19
pcnOK, thanks17:19
honvaiHow can i start code war agenst my ipad?17:19
sharpieanyone else have lightdm break on them?17:20
MagicarpThere's no entry for any drivers via the 'additional drivers' dialog. Should I just install the one via AMD's website?17:21
sharpiewhat' s the command to debug the lightdm startup?17:21
iD_Jdoes anyone have ubuntu control center? i am trying to download it but it doesn't seem to exist anymore!17:22
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Guest14769is there a chart where i Can compare bugs in 12.10 and 13.04? (and decide if is time to dist-upgrade?)17:22
cuddylierAnyone know why http://pastebin.com/gUuRcigs says 'Unexpected end of file'? Neither zip file is corrupt.17:22
ironhalikjohnjohn1011: the betas seem to work, so far17:24
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rubdostrism, I happen to have it installed (thunderbird-gnome-support)17:24
ironhalikno artifacts, etc17:24
Phryq how do I execute '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' ?17:24
Phryqabout my virtualbox problem earlier, in a thread I found, http://askubuntu.com/questions/205154/virtualbox-etc-init-d-vboxdrv-setup-issue they say it's better to install it from the website (latest version) rather than use the repo17:27
Phryqshould I do that?17:27
mibharathey17:28
honvaiWhat is the commant to detact all components in my system?17:29
Phryqactually, that thread has a few different solutions, though it's for 12.10 and I'm running 13.04, should I just try one? How do I know which one to try?17:29
dude707hey guys . if you dont know that much , honestly Ubuntu is not really for you ... no just kidding but someone just blatantly called me an idiot .17:30
Phryqis theadmin still here?17:30
Phryqhaha, I used to get that all the time using Arch17:31
BluesKajPhryq,I installed it from the repos with guest additions as well if you want to trandsfer files between OSs , also install dkms first17:31
Phryqso I should uninstall virtualbox and *then* install dkms?17:31
skuftdude707: I told you to learn to use google rather than expecting everyone to do it for you. I gave you a nice little GUI prog to format your precious USB and I even linked you to a tutorial on HOW to use the program with PICTURES. If you can't figure it out from there you really aren't ready to be on a linux distro.17:31
padmickhi all i would like to help ubuntu where do i go?17:31
BluesKajPhryq, no install dkms first as I said17:32
IdleOne!contribute | padmick17:32
ubottupadmick: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu17:32
PhryqI have installed DKMS, though I installed if AFTER installing virtualbox17:32
BluesKajthen reboot and follow the tutorial. Phryq17:33
Joan_LC_WebMaste world wide weed17:35
Joan_LC_WebMaste xD17:35
Phryqthe tutorial on the virtualbox site? So you mean I should *not* use the repo version?17:35
dude707skuft, ok thank you for all of your help, I used to snowboard like really hardcore up at Mammoth in Cali, and when groms would come up on the higher lifts in snowstorms and white outs, i used to have to escort people down the hill because ski patrol was usually busy with serious injuries, i never berated people for going above their limits into a white out on a killer mountain, because they are up there trying to learn and have fun17:35
dude707and its not my place to knock people dwon , if you want to be aloof and think that your more clever than everyone else then go to starbucks and make sure everyone can see all the cool stuff you are doing on Ubuntu. try to be more kind man and good night. this usb is going to sit on my mantle for the next 30 years just to remind me of you . thank you .17:35
IdleOnepadmick: the link has changed to http://community.ubuntu.com17:36
padmickthanks17:36
skuftdude707: I'm not going to have a flame war with you in a public room. If you have an issue with me take it up with an OP.17:37
Phryqwhenever anyone says flamewar I imagine armies of wizards throwing fire at each other17:39
skuftThat would be epic.17:39
Phryqif that's what internet flame wars were really like, I would seek them out, and join in17:40
lunaphytehi.  i've broken something with a 13.04 desktop install, and am having trouble figuring out what.  after logging in, i get the desktop background, and the pointer/cursor, but the menu bar and the application bar on the left of the screen never appear.17:40
skuftlunaphyte: have you tried repairing your install from the install media (cd or usb)17:41
lunaphytei believe it may be the result of a missing package/packages, as i was mucking about a bit with them, but i've since reinstalled ubuntu-desktop and the problem persists.17:42
lunaphyteskuft: i've not, no.17:42
lunaphytei could do that, but i'd like to learn a bit more about what actually broke.17:42
echoewhat did you do to it? what does history and dmesg say?17:42
echoecould analyze those logs but it would take a long time. x.x17:43
lunaphyteechoe: ah, history is a tolerable idea.  i'll poke at that for a bit, thanks.17:46
JohnThePreacherRepent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!”17:49
ironhalikthat was fast17:50
ironhalikfaster than the kingdom of heaven, at least ;>17:51
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Ari-YangI guess if I apt-get a program and I receive "the following extra packages will be installed", I HAVE to install them...17:53
PiciAri-Yang: not necessarily. You can use the --no-install-recommends option to choose not to install some of that cruft.17:53
bekksAri-Yang: Yes, those packages are required dependencies.17:53
lunaphytemore or less yes, but you can disable recommended and suggested packages.17:53
Ari-YangPici, oh I didn't know that, but that might not be the best move17:54
Ari-Yangespecially if the program needs those packages17:54
lunaphytei immediately disable automatic installation of recommended and suggested packages.17:54
PiciAri-Yang: Recommends are not the same as Dependencies.17:54
Ari-Yangbut thanks for making aware of the --no-install-recommends17:54
lunaphyteyou end up with too much unnecessary garbage otherwise.17:54
Ari-Yangno no, not talking about recommends17:54
Ari-Yanglike they /will/ be installed17:55
Ari-Yangit's not recommended17:55
lunaphyteyes, because of the way ubuntu works now17:55
Ari-Yangbut I do see 'recommended' packages but they aren't installed17:55
IdleOneAri-Yang: when apt tells you it will install those extra packages, those are dependencies and are needed. Recommends will be shown beneath that line and you don't need to install them if you don't want.17:55
Ari-Yangaye17:55
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GeorgeJIs there any way to replace the grub-update hook scripts that run after a kernel update with scripts that setup the kernel as an efi stub using efibootmgr, without having to do them myself?17:58
melow01I'd like to rip wav audio from /dev/cdrom using VLC in Ubuntu and I'm having a hard time finding the solution. Any suggestions?17:58
MrokiiHello. I need help, urgently. All my players (sound and DVD) have spontaneously stopped playing any sounds. On Ubuntu 13.04. I tried a reboot, but that didn't help. I didn't change anything, was just watching a DVD before.17:58
melow01I tried: 'cvlc cdda://dev/cdrom@1' and this plays the audio to my speakers just fine. How to redirect the audio to local_file.wav?17:59
Dirk_Hello and F*** windows!!!!17:59
IdleOne!language | Dirk_18:00
ubottuDirk_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.18:00
Dirk_sorry18:01
Dirk_ok i'm having an issue with playing videos18:01
Jordan_UGeorgeJ: You probably would have to make such a script manually. Why don't you want to use grub?18:01
melow01Dirk_, VLC is pretty good with most video formats18:02
Dirk_utube dont work, (nothing on internet works) and playing downloaded video is glitchy18:02
IdleOneprobably need to install flashplugin-installer18:02
Dirk_i have vlc is slow and skips alot...18:02
GeorgeJJordan_U: I've recently reinstalled Ubuntu with btrfs as root(I did this before without issues) and grub complins about sparse files, it's a known bug, for over 2 years.18:02
Dirk_i have flash plugin installed18:02
IdleOnefor youtube you can also try www.youtube.com/html5 (some videos may not play)18:02
GeorgeJAlso, I don't really see a reason to use grub, when UEFI is pretty good at loading the kernel itself18:03
melow01Dirk_, try activating youtube html5, that's usually a good place to start18:03
Dirk_it's not an obvious problem... i've tried it all...  (idleone) i already tried signing up for that html5 thing still nothing18:03
lunaphytehow can i determine which package contains/provides the unity launcher?18:04
Jordan_UGeorgeJ: I can probably help you get rid of said error message.18:04
Dirk_when i play video's off my machine it plays like i have no ram... slow slow slow18:04
IdleOnelunaphyte: that would be the package named 'unity'18:05
GeorgeJYesh, there's a temporary fix can be found here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/100329/message-sparse-file-not-allowed-after-installing-on-a-btrfs-filesystem18:05
bekksDirk_: So which CPU and which graphics card do you have?18:05
Dirk_thinking about installing flux... any opinions.... (bekks) asus kt400...  2 gighrts proceser18:06
Dirk_2 gig or ram18:06
GeorgeJJordan_U: I don't really have a problem per se, however, bypassing grub seems cool. I never found the need to bood a different kind of option anyway.18:06
Jordan_UGeorgeJ: Also, for the record, this error comes from Ubuntu specific code. Could you please pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg?18:06
bekksDirk_: Whats your graphics card?18:06
bekksDirk_: And whats your specific make and model for your CPU?18:06
GeorgeJJordan_U: Sure thing, just a second.18:06
Dirk_on the motherboard... i really don't know...  it's a machine i threw together from spare parts... but it smokes on windows but i fing hate windows18:07
lunaphyteIdleOne: ok, thanks.18:07
rhizomeis there a way to take a screenshot that includes the mouse cursor?18:07
bekksDirk_: Well, run lspci and run cat /proc/cpuinfo then, and put both outputs into a pastebin.18:08
bekks!pastebin | Dirk_18:08
ubottuDirk_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:08
Jordan_Urhizome: Yes. If you use gnome-screenshot it has a check box allowing you to choose to either show or not show the cursor.18:08
GeorgeJJordan_U: Here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5720601/18:08
Dirk_it might take me a minute to figure that out... i'm new to ubuntu18:09
GeorgeJJordan_U: The bug is described here: https://www.google.ro/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CEkQFjAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugs.launchpad.net%2Fbugs%2F975557&ei=R-aoUdC5BbCw4QSu_oGIBA&usg=AFQjCNGoud0HL6yht5d4Tq1-27mBcBf-fw&bvm=bv.47244034,d.bGE18:09
Dirk_bekks am i running that script in terminal18:09
GeorgeJOops. Here it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/97555718:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 736743 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #975557 environment block not implemented on btrfs" [Wishlist,Triaged]18:09
Dirk_bump18:10
rhizomeJordan_U: thanks, just found that :) strangely not near the top of my google results!18:11
Jordan_UGeorgeJ: Try creating a new file, /boot/grub/custom.cfg, containing "function recordfail { true; }"18:11
Dirk_i think my chat window froze and missed a few posts... BEKKS... am i posting those scripts in terminal... sorry brand new to ubuntu18:11
sharpieMy session manager is broken for the second time in two weeks.  Getting black screen after login.18:12
Jordan_UGeorgeJ: (without the quotes). For documentation purposes it might be good to include another line with "# The following line will make the recordfail function a no-op, since it can't work on btrfs anyway".18:12
lunaphytesharpie: hey, me too! :)18:13
Jordan_Urhizome: You're welcome :)18:13
sharpieI've tried gdm and mdm still blackscreen.18:13
lunaphytewhen i run a "terminal" window from the ubuntu/unity desktop, what is the name of the program that is actually running?18:13
GeorgeJJordan_U: Hmm, what's the difference between doing it in /boot/grub/custom.cfg and doing it in /etc/grub.d/00_disable_btrfs_recordfail ?18:14
Jordan_Ulunaphyte: Most likely gnome-terminal.18:14
minimeclunaphyte: gnome-terminal18:14
sharpielogged in as root on tty0 stopped lightdm.  looged in as user on tty1 startxfce418:15
sharpienow sound isn't working18:15
Jordan_UGeorgeJ: In /boot/grub/custom.cfg you can simply include what you want verbatim, you don't need to run update-grub afterward, and I personally encourage users to never touch /etc/grub.d/ as it's almost never needed (despite the many people and blogs suggesting you do it for various reasons) and is error prone.18:16
betraydsharpie any reason you need to stop lightdm18:17
GeorgeJJordan_U: Allright, update-grub doesn't remove my custom.cfg, does it?18:17
Jordan_UGeorgeJ: No, it doesn't.18:17
lunaphyteJordan_U, minimec: thanks, that's the one.  i had to run it manually because my desktop is a bit broken atm.18:17
Jordan_Ulunaphyte: You're welcome.18:17
sharpiehave to stop lightdm to allow the start of startxfce4 command18:17
betrayd and it breaks everything else18:18
sharpiemaybe I could have no session managers and start it from command line from now on18:19
sharpiesince they dont' work18:19
sharpieJust reinstalled last week18:19
GeorgeJJordan_U: Awesome, thank you!18:19
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sharpieto recover from the issue18:19
Jordan_UGeorgeJ: You're welcome.18:19
betraydsharpie tried to add xfce to lightdm session?18:20
GeorgeJI'm still curious to see if I can get the kernel to be loaded directly from UEFI. I should be able to do this without disabling grub I guess.18:20
betraydor install xubuntu18:21
sharpiebetryd - i'ts set as the default in lightdm18:21
betrayd was it thru a dpkg-reconfigure18:22
sharpiebetrayd - did that a few times to.  switching back an forth between different managers18:22
Dirk_http://imagebin.org/25970818:24
sharpieSession manager is hanging on a dependency is all I can figure.  But what happened between updates?18:24
Dirk_is that all you need?18:24
temmyhello18:24
GeorgeJSa traiesti18:25
sharpie50.631070] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.  ????18:26
betraydjust a warning18:27
zykotick9sharpie: saying, nvidia is non-free, propritary...18:27
GeorgeJYOUR KERNEL IS TAINTED!18:27
Dirk_i guess i didn't need two different screen shots.... but here is the other one http://imagebin.org/25970918:27
tozenhi all! having ubuntu server 12.04 each 10 minutes about display switching off ang switching on only pushing any button... any ideas to how to sort it out so i can get console visible permanently? thx18:27
Seveassharpie: a tainted kernel has loaded non-free or crapmodules. Kernel developers willlaugh in your face when you ask for support, but as long as the module is part of ubuntu, ubuntu/canonical will support it18:28
sharpiewierd F8 is running xfce4 and F7 is still running lightdm18:28
betraydsharpie see if your xfce has sound18:28
sharpieit does in CTL+F7 but not in CTL+F818:29
betraydexclusive and elusive18:29
sharpiegranted F7 is only the login screen but it makes a noise when it starts18:29
Dirk_BEKKS you still there buddy......18:30
sharpieF8 is running XFCE4 and sound isn't reported right18:30
lunaphyteaha.  unity --reset-icons brought the launcher back18:30
skuftlunaphyte: goood to know18:31
skuftsomeone should file that solution away18:31
betraydin XFCE sharpie is there a volume/mixer applet? maybe it needs to have its won settings...18:31
betraydown*18:31
lunaphyteactually, to be clear, i did both dconf reset -f '/org/compiz/' and unity --reset-icons - but it's my sense that it was the latter which fixed it.18:32
sharpieapplet is there for sound, acts as if i didn't read config.  Settings are blank dummy defaults18:32
lunaphytenow to see if i can figure out the menu bar :)18:32
betraydsharpie: not muted but greyed out?18:33
tozenhi all! having ubuntu server 12.04 each 10 minutes about display switching off ang switching on only pushing any button... any ideas to how to sort it out so i can get console visible permanently? thx18:33
sharpiecontrols are blank,  If i was to add them there is one choice. and it dosen't do anything18:33
lunaphytei guess, to attempt to use proper unity terminology, i'm trying to get the application menu back, and the indicators back.18:33
sharpieIt's like app-armour is blocking it18:34
betraydsharpie: am thinking if you delay or stop lightdm from 'snatching' audio18:34
betraydso that you start with xfce first18:34
betraydmaybe then you will have sound18:34
sharpiedid that before18:35
sharpiestarted lightdm service from terminal in xfce418:35
Dirk_can anybody look at these screen shots and tell me if anything is out of order on em and why my video lags really bad??? http://imagebin.org/25971118:35
melow01I'd like to rip wav audio from /dev/cdrom using VLC in Ubuntu and I'm having a hard time finding the solution. Any suggestions?18:36
betraydvlc has 'convert' in its UI instead of PLAY18:36
sharpielspci -vvv | less      tells more and lets you scroll thru the list18:36
sharpiedriver is indicated also18:37
Jordan_Umelow01: Why are you using VLC rather than a dedicated CD ripping app?18:37
kostkonDirk_, youve got a very old graphics card?18:37
melow01Jordan_U, I figured VLC should be able to do the job, am I wrong?18:38
kostkonDirk_, almost ancient18:38
sharpieBroken libglu1-mesa-dev:amd64 Depends on libgl1-mesa-dev-lts-quantal [ amd64 ]18:38
betraydmelow01: from the drop down you can pick convert, stream, play18:38
sharpieBroken libglu1-mesa-dev:amd64 Depends on libgl1-mesa-dev [ amd64 ]18:38
Jordan_Umelow01: I'm sure VLC can do it, it just seems like an odd choice, especially if you're having trouble with it.18:38
Dirk_kostkon.... it's built on the mother board.... top of the line is 2001... but i have no problems on windows... but lags alot with ubuntu... i thought ubuntu uses less ram and stuff...18:39
kostkonDirk_, what version of windows?18:39
melow01betrayd, I'm trying to do it from the command line so hopefully I can create a bash script for future use18:39
Dirk_should i try switching to flux or a lost cause?18:39
betraydmelow01: make it work with UI then figure out its equivalent using man vlc18:39
phunyguyDirk_ Xubuntu or Lubuntu may be up your alley18:40
rudolahey all.. greeings ofthe day..:)18:40
betraydhey there18:40
kostkonDirk_, latest ubuntu requires an fairly advanced hardware to run properly. it features a 3d based desktop environment. yeah try some other flavour of ubuntu, lubuntu or xubuntu18:40
rudolalove to the ladies.. high five to all me brothers18:40
Dirk_IS THERE ANYWAY TO SWITCH OVER TO THOSE OS OR DO I HAVE TO REINSTALL COMPLETELY18:41
betraydfix your keyboard18:41
exnorhey guys18:41
Dirk_fixed18:42
melow01betrayd, good call. Its working using the 'convert' function... is there a way to see what vlc is doing to make this happen?18:42
exnorjust having some trouble accessing my ubuntu network share from other devices (attempted from windows) - I just right clicked and shared the directory.  Other machines see the folder shared, but get 'Permission denied'18:42
kostkonDirk_, no. for a start, install lubuntu-desktop, logout and select it as your DE by clicking on the gear icon18:43
sharpiedirk Xorg --configure18:43
betraydmelow01: when i run vlc it shows the cvlc equivalent if you launch it from a terminal that is18:43
Dirk_system settings?18:43
betraydmelow01: but you can always read  'man vlc', at least now you know it works18:44
kostkonDirk_, no i mean the gear icon in the login screen, i.e. after you logout. First, install the lubuntu-desktop package, either using the USC or in the terminal, give:  sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop18:44
phunyguyDirk_: 'sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop' in a terminal.  If you want Xubuntu, change it to xubuntu-desktop18:44
phunyguythen as kostkon said, select it in the logon session menu18:45
Dirk_ok i know its all opinion but really quick which one should i go with lubuntu or xubuntu18:45
kostkonDirk_, try both. really non-trivial to install them both18:45
phunyguyDirk_: depends on your needs, please don't poll the channel18:45
auronandaceDirk_: toss a coin18:46
betraydhave you ever used  either one, lxde or xfce18:46
Dirk_are they both just as lite? that's what i'm trying to decide on18:46
melow01melow01, very helpful, I can see the output in terminal18:46
auronandaceDirk_: lxde is lighter18:46
kostkonDirk_, lubuntu is a little bit more lightweight18:46
betraydmelow01: see, hate for you to intsall yet anotehr app when the answer is already there18:47
melow01betrayd, my thoughts precisely18:47
betraydcatch u later18:48
sharad_rudola: wouldn't you say anything to your sisters out here?..:P18:49
Dirk_are they basically the same as ubuntu will i be able to operate them the same without having to google somthing everytime i want to do somthing18:49
rudolaplease tell me what is an iso?18:50
Dirk_cd image18:50
Dirk_rudola... google it dude... it's the image you burn to a cd or dvd18:51
kostkonDirk_, they are simpler, with less features and less available options. But with a little persistence you'll find your way around18:51
rudolaDirk_ : appreciate your suggestion. but google drives me crazy by pouring over zillion results..!! IRC is better18:52
rudola:)18:52
Dirk_ok well i appreciate all your help guys.... one more thing when i boot up it cant find the boot module and goes thru a big thing of killing usb and pci stuff before finially booting up18:52
Dirk_will this problem be fixed18:53
Benkinoobyhi, is this guide for sharing my internet connection still up to date?18:53
Benkinoobyhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing18:53
Dirk_rudola..... you are talking about an iso file? for burning cds... what is the platform?18:55
Dirk_what ever i googled it for you man... http://pcsupport.about.com/od/termsi/g/isofile.htm18:57
Pici!google18:57
ubottuWhile Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.18:57
Dirk_ok well i get what your saying... i agree...  or they are just lazy and nevermind... i'm not arguing18:59
sianhulois there a way to add dosbox to the "open with" list?19:04
acovrigI have dvgrab in a script: it says Capture Started, yet only gets <1M and ffmpeg says its 0.18s long but it doesn't get any bigger19:04
rudoladirk_: about.com, seriously??19:05
acovrighowever, if I start dvgrab with the camera off, it fails, but then turn the camera on,it works...19:05
IdleOnerudola: An ISO image is an archive file of an optical disc19:06
sharpieStill can figure out what is messed up with session manager19:06
sharpiegdbus call error: Error: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files19:07
acovrigI wonder if it is ram bc when dvgrab does succede, I have 9M free (by free -m)...19:08
phunyguyrudola: to add to that, an iso is an "image" of an optical disk, such as a CD or DVD, and you can capture an image to the ISO file from optical, the same as you can burn the ISO to the optical disc. For ubuntu purposes, you download the iso, and burn it to a DVD with standard burning software.19:08
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cheffedwhy does it seem impossible to acces my nas server over lan via dns: NAS-SERV3R, i always have to use the ipadres..19:11
phunyguycheffed: are you using samba?19:11
cheffedno idea19:11
cheffedtrying to make a perminent mounted network drive19:11
phunyguywell how are you trying to access it.  Nautilus?19:11
cheffedhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently19:12
Dirk_are you serious???  i just gave you the answer your looking for ( you didn't have to do anything but click the link and read) am i being arrogant here19:12
cheffedi think im using samba... im not sure sorry...feel so embarrased19:12
phunyguycheffed: that is a bug in samba, has been for a long time.  If it is permanently mounted, you don't need to worry about the IP changing, just use IP.19:12
rudolathank you guys.19:13
phunyguyDirk_: please, just stop.19:13
cheffedthanks19:13
cheffedbecause when i reset my router it assigns new ipś19:13
cheffedvery very annoying19:13
CrispyHexNoob question. I disconnected my HDD  which has windows 7 installed on it. Left my blank SSD connected, then clean installed ubuntu onto the SSD.  Ubuntu doesn't like my video card so I reconnected my HDD, booted into windows and formatted the SSD.  Now everytime I start up the computer it still boots into ubuntu, which can't start because the drive is formatted.  How do I make the computer not try to boot into Ubuntu???19:13
phunyguycheffed: does the share need to be available for all users, or just yourself?19:14
cheffedjust myself19:14
cheffeddid you check the link that im following?19:14
nate1Turns out the install disk works swimingly.19:15
phunyguycheffed: then in nautilus, type CTRL+L, and in the location bar that pops up, type smb://NAS-SERV3R19:15
Jordan_UCrispyHex: Change the boot priority in your BIOS so that it tries to boot from the HDD first.19:15
phunyguyif you want, you may use the software package "gigolo" to turn that into an automounted bookmark.  If you really want to get crazy, you can try something like "autofs"19:15
Dirk_ok.... im done....   im just trying to get my problem fixed  when i install the lubuntu desktop or ubuntu will i still have the same problems booting up (cant find boot module)19:16
Dirk_sorry lubuntu desktop over ubuntu19:16
cheffedi just want my nas as a drive on my desktop19:16
CrispyHexJordan_U: But i'm still confused. If the drive has been formatted, why does the screen still turn purple and try to boot into Ubuntu??19:16
phunyguycheffed, what I said will accomplish that19:16
phunyguyCrispyHex: because the MBR was left intract19:17
phunyguyintact*19:17
cheffedomg i seriously fucked something up19:17
Benkinoobyhi, can some1 help me with sharing my internet to an other computer? i have internet through mobile broad band, and i want to share it via wifi to a second computer. the "gateway" computer is ubuntu 12.10, the other one is debian 719:18
cheffedhaha19:18
cheffedfuck me19:18
phunyguy!language | cheffed19:18
FloodBot1cheffed: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:18
ubottucheffed: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.19:18
Benkinoobyboth have networkmanager19:18
cheffednow all my network folders are scrabled in /home19:18
cheffedhahaha19:18
CrispyHexHow do I get rid of the MBR then?19:18
phunyguyCrispyHex: via windows...?19:18
cheffedphunyguy: sudo mount -a19:19
cheffedhow do i undo this?19:19
cheffed:P19:19
vitimitihi o/19:19
phunyguyCrispyHex: your best bet is to change the boot order, like Jordan_U said19:19
physmartGreetings. My system crashed, and doesnt start. Can I, from live cd, delete all fglrx directories, files and program? Can help me, if I do that?19:19
phunyguycheffed: undo what you did in /etc/fstab, and restart19:19
cheffedok going to reboot then, when i get back, can you tell me again how to get a diskicon with immediate acces to my NAS on my desktop?19:20
physmartGreetings. My system crashed, and doesnt start. Can I, from live cd, delete all fglrx directories, files and program? Can help me, if I do that?19:20
sharad_dirk: chill dude..:)19:20
phunyguycheffed: sure thing19:20
physmartHow can I set a old linux image from a live cd19:21
physmartHow can I set a old linux image from a live cd?19:22
contrapunctus!patience|physmart19:22
ubottuphysmart: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/19:22
mcooley k19:23
CrispyHexIs the MBR for ubuntu stored on the drive or on the motherboard?19:23
cheffeddamn i love linux, so fast n smooth19:23
cheffedphunyguy:19:23
cheffedguide me19:23
bekkscheffed: Every MBR is stored on a harddisk.19:23
Jordan_UCrispyHex: The MBR is the first sector of a drive.19:23
physmartcan not anybody help me?19:23
contrapunctusphysmart - Also, someone may answer like half an hour later, known to happen :) I dunno what fglrx is or I'd help :\19:24
phunyguycheffed, open Nautilus (File Manager)19:24
cheffedok19:24
betraydphysmart: sounds like a major commitment.19:24
phunyguyonce that is open, type CTRL-L19:24
mcooley k19:24
cheffedgo on19:24
cheffed:P19:24
cheffedim not that slow19:24
physmartbetrayd: what that mean?19:24
cheffedhaha19:24
phunyguythe location bar will appear up top, in there put smb://NAS-SERV3R19:24
FloodBot1cheffed: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:24
xcimy creative socialize 1080 provides me only 640x360 video, even though it's been verified to perform at 960x544 (http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#Working_USB_Webcams) - any tips?19:24
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CrispyHexOK, so how do I remove the remaining ubuntu sector from the SSD?19:24
cheffedam there yes...19:25
betraydphysmart might be easier to start with a clean install19:25
phunyguycheffed, it may prompt for a user and password if you have that set.  Enter accordingly.  After that go into the share you want, or just at that point click the gear up top and add to bookmarks.19:25
cheffedrick mouse --- make link?19:25
sharad_CrispyHex: oN THE HARD-DISK I GUESS19:25
cheffedo yeah, buddy i already did that...19:25
cheffedi have them bookmarked..19:26
phunyguy...so you are good?19:26
cheffedyeah...19:26
physmart I am with a live cd of the ubuntu 13.04, i get an error with the installer. so, i prefer try fix the problem of the old one.19:26
cheffedany way to get it in the dash or desktop with a nice disklike icon as a hdd?19:26
woophysmart: did it pass the checkdisk?19:26
physmartthe grub is not loading, shift do not works.19:26
phunyguycheffed: also if you have apps that cannot see those bookmarks, you can point the apps at /run/user/username/.gvfs/share@blahblahblah19:26
woophysmart: oh19:27
physmartwoo: yes.19:27
phunyguycheffed, you can do that via unity-tweak if you are on 13.0419:27
woophysmart: did it work?19:27
forbiis it any purpose to use UEFI over BIOS, im a beginner but i got choice to boot the cd in UEFI or BIOS19:27
phunyguy(have to install it, but then there is an option to place mounted volumes on the desktop)19:27
physmartwoo: actually, i do not know what is checkdisk19:27
cheffedo right, when i want to save nzbś directly it wont let me see the bookmarks19:27
cheffedlike chome19:27
Jordan_Uforbi: Are you dual booting with an existing Windows installation?19:27
phunyguycheffed, so then check out that /run/user folder like I said19:28
cheffedyeah, 13.04 doesnt work..19:28
woo! fsck | physmart19:28
ubottuphysmart: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot19:28
forbiJordan_U: nope no dualbooting with windows19:28
phunyguycheffed, so you a re on 12.04?19:28
cheffedyes sir19:29
Dirk_does anyone know a program off hand that writes the installation on a usb drive19:29
phunyguyeven easier, the shares show up as physical folders when mounted, under ~/.gvfs (hidden so you must inhide hidden folders to see it)19:29
phunyguyunhide***19:29
physmartwoo: Can I do that from a live cd? My system crashed.19:30
cheffedlet me see19:30
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minimecphysmart: you say that your system crashed, doesn't start, and something about fgrlx. Can you boot in 'recovery mode'? Do you know what that is? Did you try that?19:30
Jordan_Uforbi: Either should work. UEFI can be terrible, but so can the BIOS implementation on primarily UEFI firmware. I would try booting via UEFI first.19:31
physmartminimec: Yes, I know. Meantime, when I try open the Recovery from BIOS menu, just nothing happen..19:32
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physmartI cant access the system recovery mode.19:32
sharad_what does PATH variable do? can anybody explain it to me?19:32
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minimecphysmart: Well I want to know, if it is only the graphical part of the system that is broken, or the whole installation.19:32
bekkssharad_: It sets a bunchg of paths, where a command is searched.19:32
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phunyguysharad_: it allows you to type some commands that are located within the scope of $PATH, without typing the full path to the application.  So if you have /usr/bin/appname, if /usr/bin is in path, you can just type "appname" and it will see it.19:33
sharad_each command in linux is a file? right?19:34
bekkssharad_: No, but most of them.19:34
physmartminimec: Later I had installed a new driver with the Xorg Edgers ppa. Then, my perfect sytem become broken..19:34
davidfetterhello19:34
sharad_which aren't? can you pls explain19:34
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davidfetterhas anybody ported the fpaste utility to ubuntu (or debian) ?19:35
Jordan_Usharad_: Some commands are bash builtins, like "cd".19:35
physmartminimec: A new linux headers was installed. 3.0.7... I want to change that and delete all fglrx directories and try fix it.19:35
Jordan_U!pastebinit | davidfetter19:35
ubottudavidfetter: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com19:35
Dirk_is fluxbuntu have the same look and feel as ubuntu or is it a completely different OS19:35
bekksDirk_: It is an Ubuntu with an different GUI.19:36
minimecphysmart: Ok. So you can start your system 'normally' until the graphical part should start, and then you only get a black screen? If this is the case can you switch to a console pressing <ctrl><alt>F1 ?19:36
minimecphysmart: Are my assumptions correct?19:36
rudolahey Dirk WELCOME! back19:36
davidfetterJordan_U, thanks. any way to unhedge it? the default paste site requires a login :/19:36
sharad_Jordan_U: how are these bash builtns different from normal commands?19:36
Jordan_Udavidfetter: What do you mean by "unhedge"?19:37
forbiJordan_U: what would you recommend?19:37
physmartminimec: Yes. later the loading screen, appear just one caracter _ on the top. Nothing works. the command to chande to tty mode..19:37
physmart*change19:38
Dirk_ya thanx rudola... i hope you figured out your iso problem...19:38
Jordan_Uforbi: I would recommend tryuing to boot (and install) via UEFI first. If there are problems then it may make sense to boot (and install) via BIOS instead.19:38
phunyguyI thought fluxbuntu was dead?19:38
phunyguyDirk_ and rudola, please stop with the banter back and forth19:38
phunyguyit is very counterproductive.19:39
davidfetterJordan_U, as in send to a paste site that doesn't require a login19:39
minimecphysmart: so you can't change to a console with <ctrl><alt>F1 or F2 or so. Is that correct?19:39
cheffedphunyguy: is it possible to put these bookmarks in my dash?19:39
rudolayes buddy i know i was annoying. sorry for that. are we cool?19:39
phunyguycheffed, I'm sure it is but I have no idea how19:39
rudola_Dirk19:39
cheffedok19:39
physmartminimec: yes.19:40
cheffedyouve been a great help, thanks for that...going to ask google now19:40
T|ASKHi, I thought Canoncal would like to publish the first running version of Ubuntu phone tonight?! Or was it just misunderstood by the press?19:40
Jordan_Usharad_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_builtin19:40
phunyguy!touch | T|ASK19:40
ubottuT|ASK: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch19:40
Jordan_Udavidfetter: pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net19:40
seronischeffed: which bookmarks?   you can configure 'alias'es in your ~/.bashrc  file if thats what you were talking about19:40
Dirk_PHUNYGUY..... i'm not sure if it's dead or not... i'm having a problem with lag on my machine so i'm trying to find a lighter OS and from what i'm reading about lubuntu its not really that much lighter the ubuntu... i'm going to give X a test drive but if it's not solving my problems i'm looking into flux if it isn't dead19:41
cheffedbookmarks in nautils19:41
cheffedfor instance my nas server19:41
davidfetterJordan_U, thanks! how does one make that default?19:41
cheffedi want direct acces to it from my dash19:41
Jordan_Udavidfetter: Though Ubuntu's pastebin should only require a login for viewing the plain text paste.19:41
seronischeffed: sorry dont know anything about nautilus (im xfce user)19:41
phunyguyDirk_: ok, last I checked, they were still on 7.10 which is long dead.  Unless it was picked back up... I don't know.19:41
T|ASKphunyguy:  great, thanks. That's what I wanted to ask next :)19:41
cheffedno idea what that is19:41
davidfetterJordan_U, that is precisely what's causing the problem19:41
cheffedhaha19:41
minimecphysmart: Ok. So we have two possibilities. First: Try to boot in recovery mode ( Press and hold  'left shift' key just after the boot screen, before grub starts), or 2nd: Boot a live CD and 'chroot' to the Harddrive installation.19:41
Dirk_RUDOLA.... ya were cool man... i'm just annoyed that i'm having so many issues on my machine so i'm sorry if i was being sarcastic19:42
seronischeffed:  just a different desktop environment. it uses Thunar as a window manager instead of nautilus19:42
phunyguyDirk_: http://www.fluxbuntu.org/ - 7.10  :-/19:42
phunyguyand definitely not supported here.19:42
davidfetterdigitalknight, could you do me a favor and do git diff filter |pastebin -b http://paste.debian.net19:42
davidfettersorry. mischan19:43
Dirk_PHUNYGUY... if it's dead which is the lightest version to date now?19:43
bekksDirk_: xubuntu or lubuntu.19:43
Jordan_U!lubuntu | Dirk_19:43
ubottuDirk_: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.19:43
elspuddyhi any one know how to get the screen from when you ssh into ubuntu server on desktop ?19:43
soy_el_pulpolubuntu is great for ultra low end machines!!19:43
BenkinoobyDirk_: you can also isntall fluxbox on your current system and see how it works19:43
bekkselspuddy: Which screen? Using ssh, you just get a terminal.19:44
phunyguyOh yeah Benkinooby, didn't even consider that19:44
seroniselspuddy:  you mean the terminal window?19:44
soy_el_pulpoelspuddy: the MOTD?19:44
BenkinoobyDirk_: i hcanged to fluxbox too, because my system is slow19:44
BenkinoobyDirk_: better use official ubuntu + fluxbox than that fluxbuntu19:44
phunyguyDirk_: how much ram is in that laptop?19:44
elspuddynoe, like when you ssh into the server you get that info thing that says cpu load, and how mutch rem your server is running19:44
phunyguybecause the issue may be swap-related due to newr apps having a larger memory footprint19:45
seronisps ux19:45
soy_el_pulpoelspuddy: that is part of the MOTD19:45
bekkselspuddy: Thats in the "motto of the day".19:45
seroniselspuddy:  try  'ps ux'  or just  'top'  to see if those fit your needs19:45
vashistheyBank in booby19:46
physmartminimec: i am already with live cd. what shoul i do now19:46
Benkinoobyphunyguy: sorry i'm getting into it in the middle of the discussion - he wants to make an old laptop working?19:46
vashistoops benkinooby19:46
phunyguyBenkinooby: 2001 IIRC...19:46
soy_el_pulpoelspuddy: try this: "apt-get install update-motd"19:46
physmartminimec: i am already with live cd. what should i do now?19:46
Dirk_it's a desktop that was top of the line i built back in 2001 but it's custom built... i have 1 gig or ram on a 2 gigahertz processor19:46
Benkinoobyvashist: :P19:46
cheffedim off dudes19:46
cheffedttyl19:46
phunyguyDirk_: let me give you a heads up.... Firefox alone uses a quarter of that.19:46
elspuddybrell, thanks :)19:47
elspuddybrill even :)19:47
phunyguynevermind the OS and whatever else you are using19:47
soy_el_pulpo2013 - 2001 = 12 years..., sorry19:47
vashistbenkinooby: nice nick..:)19:47
cheffedhahah\sorry]19:47
cheffedwanted to laugh to that19:47
minimecphysmart: Basically this (comment 48+), and at step 6. you do 'apt-get remove fglrx', then 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'19:47
cheffederes pulpo?19:47
soy_el_pulpoDirk_: lubuntu will be great19:47
cheffedsoy cocinero!!!!19:47
soy_el_pulpoyup19:47
phunyguy!ot | cheffed19:47
ubottucheffed: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:47
cheffedcorre19:47
soy_el_pulpoyo tambien..19:47
minimecphysmart: http://askubuntu.com/questions/88384/how-can-i-repair-grub-how-to-get-ubuntu-back-after-installing-windows19:47
BenkinoobyDirk_: my systme is 1 gb ram and 1.2 GHz single core19:48
soy_el_pulpocon 8 cuchillos!!! lol19:48
BenkinoobyDirk_: i run unbuntu 12.10 with fluxbox19:48
seronis!es | cheffed19:48
ubottucheffed: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.19:48
cheffedhaha19:48
cheffedme voy19:48
Picicheffed, soy_el_pulpo: knock it off.19:48
bazhangcheffed, stop that19:48
BenkinoobyDirk_: works charming, even faster than otherws with win7 or normal ubuntu :D19:48
cheffedok srry19:48
phunyguyCAn we please take the offtopic banter to #ubuntu-offtopic ?19:48
Dirk_i just switched to linux becase i reinstalled windows a few days ago and i'm fed up with trying to install drivers and crap.. I'm threw with windows but i didn't have a issue with lagging video but i am now with ubuntu (which is the reason i'm looking for a lighter version19:48
phunyguyDirk, there are non-ubuntu distros like DSL, and puppy...19:49
seronisDirk_:  lagging flash specifically?  or all video?19:49
soy_el_pulpoPici: what? I was talking about an old machine with low specs and what distribution will be recomendable... ok, dad. i will behave19:49
soy_el_pulpo;)19:49
soy_el_pulpoDirk_: flash will lag on everything and the amount of updates, almost every week19:50
Corey!ping19:50
ubottupong!19:50
CoreyWee.19:50
Dirk_all video.. internet video wont even play... (did on windows) but video actually on my hard drives lag really bad and out of sync with sound19:50
seronisDirk_:  have you installed 'restricted extras'  yet ?19:50
Dirk_PHUNYGUY...... never heard of dsl or puppy? are the linux?19:50
Jordan_UDirk_: That sounds like a driver problem.19:51
phunyguyDirk_: yes, but not supported here.  just making you aware19:51
physmartminimec: One simple question, how i see the right partition? hdstat?19:51
BenkinoobyDirk_: better gibve ubuntu a try first - it is easier for beginners19:51
Dirk_what about dorion or what ever it's called19:51
Dirk_i'm running ubuntu 12 now19:51
BenkinoobyDirk_: i think you are missing something - your symptoms soud very bad - not common for 1gb ram and 2 ghz computer19:51
seronisDirk_:  if you havent installed restricted extras yet give  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats   a quick read19:51
physmartminimec: I already see. with gparted.19:52
murtulpocan someone help me fix by broken laptop?19:52
Jordan_UDirk_: Could you please pastebin the output of "lspci"?19:52
seronisit will tell you the package name to install so that you have the standard codec packages needed to make videos behave19:52
Dirk_ok i'll put it on soon as lumbuntu finishes downloading19:52
Benkinoobymurtulpo: what is broken?19:52
kostkonmurtulpo, that's too vague19:52
soy_el_pulpoDirk_: disable unnecesarly stuff, transitions, etc19:52
kostkon!ask | murtulpo19:52
ubottumurtulpo: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:52
minimecphysmart: ok. Otherwise 'lsblk' in a console19:53
murtulpothe keyboard isnt working, and there is a constant beeping19:53
Dirk_http://imagebin.org/25971119:53
phunyguymurtulpo: ##hardware would be best19:53
Benkinoobyphunyguy: please make dirk stay with ubuntu... don't let him change to lubuntu, xubuntu or what so evere. it is easier to strip down ubuntu, thant to build op other distros ... i know that :P19:53
kostkonsoy_el_pulpo, his riva-tnt2 graphics card will never manage to handle unity well, i'm assuming not even unity 2d19:53
phunyguyBenkinooby: not my style.19:53
soy_el_pulpokostkon: true...19:54
murtulpowill they know how to troubleshoot in ubuntu?19:54
soy_el_pulpoplain desktop env19:54
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Dirk_how do you disable that stuff and exactly what should i disable19:54
sharad_i just installed ubuntu on my dell machine. it runs well. but when i put it on hibernation the lappy heats up like anything.. what may be the possible reasons?19:54
phunyguyBenkinooby: also I am using Xubuntu.19:54
Benkinoobyphunyguy: may be... but since he is a beginner it is better to give him the full pack and then reomve bit by bit, then give him DLS or something like that Oo19:54
quantumvmHello, is there anyone here who might be able to help me with changing my mac address with macchanger?19:54
Benkinoobyphunyguy: yes, but i think your are expereinced19:54
Dirk_Benkinooby... why is it so important to you i stay with ubuntu... just curious19:54
phunyguyBenkinooby: I wasn't suggesting he use it, was just telling him they exist.19:54
minimecphysmart: So again at step 6: 'apt-get remove fglrx', then 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'. You don't need 'sudo', as you are in a 'chroot' environment.19:55
phunyguythis is becoming offtopic again19:55
soy_el_pulpoBenkinooby: use the force!!!19:55
bazhang!ot | soy_el_pulpo19:55
ubottusoy_el_pulpo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:55
BenkinoobyDirk_: becuase i install ubuntu on old systems all the time - and using standard ubuntu, which i later strip down, works best19:55
Jordan_Usharad_: Well, when successfully hybernated the computer is completely off, so it must not be getting that far.19:55
Dirk_<Jordan_U>  did you get that screenshot?19:55
BenkinoobyDirk_: but it seems that enough people are taking care of you - so i'm off you :P19:56
phunyguyBenkinooby: everyone is different.  He asked if there was a lighter distro, we suggested xubuntu and lubuntu.  Anything else was small potatos19:56
dr_willisin order to hibernate proplerly i thought one also had to have a swap partition = to ram size + a little bit more19:56
sharad_dr_willis: any reason for that?19:57
phunyguydr_willis: never heard that... although I don't hibernate linux so *shrug*19:57
Benkinoobyphunyguy: ok ok... still i think there is no point in downloading lubuntu, when hey coudl do a apt-get install lxde-desktop too19:57
Jordan_UDirk_: Please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com for things that are just text.19:57
Benkinoobyphunyguy: or similar command19:57
phunyguyBenkinooby: lubuntu-desktop***19:57
physmartminimec: say that fglrx is not installed..19:57
Benkinoobyphunyguy: yep, just typed what came to my mind, don't know the exact name19:57
Dirk_ok well i would like to stay with ubuntu... but i need to find the best version optimal for me... as i'm into video and audio editing too... i realize this seems rediculas on a old machine but i use what i got19:58
dr_willisphunyguy:  i also thouight Hibernate was disabled by default in the newer releases.. so only suspend is enabled by default19:58
phunyguydr_willis: maybe that is why hibernate is grayed out for me.  I think mine is a 1:119:58
DJonesdr_willis: Sounds about right, if you have 4Gb of ram in use, you need a minimum of 4Gb of swap space just to store the 'in ram' data,19:58
betraydmaybe it needs the resume= boot parameter19:58
dr_willisDirk_:  ubuntu studio has many video/audio apps installed by default - you can use most any desktop for that task, if you want to save on some resources19:58
soy_el_pulpoor increase the size of the swap partiotion19:58
minimecphysmart: Well... You told us, that you wanted to remove fglrx.... So try to reconfigure the xserver with 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'19:59
echoeubuntu studio and then sudo apt-get install lxde?19:59
sharad_great19:59
dr_willisor 'lubuntu-desktop'  if you want the full lxde/lubuntu enviroment19:59
Dirk_the screen shot i took of my terminal... you want me to paste in pastebin for that?19:59
echoeoh, right.20:00
seronisDirk_:  its fine.  sometimes its easier to screenshot20:00
sharad_can any-body suggest some parameters to benchmark a cpu?20:00
seroniswhatever works best for you20:00
forbiJordan_U: is efi an replacer for BIOS?20:00
Jordan_Uforbi: Yes.20:00
phunyguyOK I need a break from this for a bit.  Have fun folks.20:00
sharad_phunyguy: ciao..!20:01
Dirk_did that help i posted the cat and lspci20:01
dr_willissharad_:  i recall there being some benchmark apps in the repos. and i seem to recall  one of the big 'benchmarking' web sites having a linux suite of apps now.. saw that mentioned like a yesr ago.. i forget the site/company name20:01
Jordan_UDirk_: In Ubuntu Software Center there is an area for "Additional Drivers" (or similar). There you should see an option to install NVidia drivers, which should help with smooth video playback.20:02
betraydwas it phoronix?20:02
dr_willisDirk_:  the 'pastebinit' command makes putting info on a pastebin site a lot easier   :)20:02
dr_willisbetrayd:  may have been.. sounds familer20:02
forbiJordan_U: hehe, have never used efi before.. is it easy to get?20:02
vilinyhey, been installing some ati drivers... now i have three application menus, three clocks and user login informations and every program i open shows three times at the bottom. this is gnome, how does one fix this?20:02
minimecphysmart: Also delete or 'mv' /etc/X11/xorg.conf, if you have one in that chroot environment.20:03
Jordan_Uforbi: What do you mean by "easy to get"?20:03
sharad_can any-body suggest some parameters to benchmark a cpu?20:03
Dirk_jordan_u..... i will look into that soon as the terminal finishes downloading xubunto desktop... says 9 hours left haha20:03
dr_willisviliny:  make a new user and see if the issue also affects them. ive never heard of that specific issue in here befor.    could be a user setting quirk.. or a deeper driver issue.20:03
forbiJordan_U: is it only boot in efi and its done?20:03
sharad_Dirk_,: 9 hrs? which part of the world are you?:/20:04
dr_willis!find bogomips20:04
Dirk_florida20:04
ubottuFile bogomips found in clisp20:04
Dirk_i just quit qbit torrent hopefully that speeds it up20:04
sharad_Dirk: :-/20:04
Dirk_oh and i'm connected with my optimus s phone20:05
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jakempmy 13.04 install keeps locking up every few days. It's X that locks up. When I switched to terminal, and reebooted, it said X.org had been blocking for more than 120 seconds. Not sure what else to check for errors.20:05
jakempon sandy bridge + HD300020:05
dr_willisif you have  the ubuntu 13.04 dvd you can always install ubuntu, then install the lubuntu-desktop package. and try out lubuntu ;)20:06
Dirk_so my connection speed isn't the best considering i'm not using broadban....   my phone connection get 11 m/s lol20:06
dr_willisDirk_:  does the actual pc you will be insstalling To have  iinternet?20:07
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gordonjcpDirk_: heh, I get that, generally my 3G phone is faster and more reliable than my ADSL20:08
soy_el_pulpopastebin20:08
forbiJordan_U: is it only too boot the cd in efi and its done?20:09
sharad_some server benchmarking tips?20:10
K1lleDhello guys, can you tell me software for ubuntu for return a deleted files, i delete few movies, who i want to get back... after delete i have 0 download files20:11
Lightzhi. what is the meaning of this bash line? i dont know what the point is doing there. cp -a /directory/old/. /directory/new20:11
Jordan_Uforbi: If you boot the Ubuntu DVD via UEFI then Ubuntu's installer will install a UEFI based system automatically, and ideally you shouldn't need to do anything differently.20:11
ubuntunewbeI am new to ubuntu and I need some help I have been running a duel boot system with win 7 last night I had to do a factory recovery to win 7 it formatted the windows partition but now it does not give me the option to duel boot did it format both systems or did it just change the boot sequence  I would really appreciate someones help Thank you20:12
soy_el_pulpoK1lleD: if using EXT3 or 4 you are doomed as far as I know'20:12
Lightzubuntunewbe: windows 7 deleted your boot loader20:13
K1lleDsoy_el_pulpo: this is on ntfs partitions, not ext3 or ext4..20:13
K1lleDactualy this movie was download with windows20:13
K1lleDbut soon i delete all movies20:13
forbiJordan_U: if its not ubuntu?20:14
K1lleDbut now i want to return few..20:14
ubuntunewbeHow do I reload the boot loader20:14
Jordan_Uforbi: I don't understand your question.20:14
ubuntunewbewin 7 deleated my bootloader and I was wondering how to fix it20:15
Dirk_DR WILLIS.... the machine i'm installing on is this one... connected by my phone...20:15
Lightzubuntunewbe: youneed to reinstall grub. but there is also quick solution. get ultimate boot cd and you should be able to boot from cd with it and then boot whatever os you installed20:15
soy_el_pulpoK1lleD: look for Microsoft utilities then, not sure if ubuntu can recover files from and NTFS partition.20:15
dr_willisubuntunewbe: see the fixgrub factoid20:15
dr_willis!fixgrub20:15
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub220:15
forbiJordan_U: what do i do if its not ubuntu? do i have to make it manually?20:15
K1lleDsoy_el_pulpo:  okey, i will20:15
K1lleDjust i want to stop use windows, i hate windows20:16
K1lleDand i want to learn things on ubuntu, and i ask for this program.20:16
Jordan_Uforbi: Different distributions have varying levels of support for UEFI, and it's offtopic for this channel.20:16
soy_el_pulpoK1lleD: get more doors! ;) welcome to the free side20:16
ubuntunewbeThank you I will try and fix it thanks again for your help20:17
K1lleD;)20:17
Dirk_UBOTTU... i'm having problems with my boot up process, not finding the boot module, if i run that restore grub will it fix my problem you think?20:17
ubottuDirk_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:17
T|ASKK1lleD: How about using "testdisk" ?20:17
dr_willisK1lleD: the systemrescue  live cd i think had ntfs undelete tools20:17
soy_el_pulpoK1lleD: good places to start: https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://askubuntu.com/20:17
forbiJordan_U: ok, but does it involving partition for efi?20:18
Jordan_UDirk_: What actually happens when you try to boot? What is the exact error message you see?20:18
dr_willis!info testdisk20:18
ubottutestdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.13-1ubuntu2 (raring), package size 516 kB, installed size 1201 kB20:18
soy_el_pulpoK1lleD: there you go, this one dr_willis?20:19
soy_el_pulpohttp://www.sysresccd.org/SystemRescueCd_Homepage20:19
Jordan_Uforbi: Ubuntu's installer automatically creates an EFI System Partition as needed for UEFI when using automatic partitioning. If you use manual partitioning you'll need to create this partition yourself (fat32) and set it to be mounted at /boot/efi/.20:20
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T|ASKK1lleD:  or use the rescue disk ... it's on you.... but starting with Linux is an uphill task with a wonderful outlook at the summit :)20:21
evilytwistedwhat he said.. Lol20:21
Dirk_Jordon U..... i'm not exactly sure... udevd[92] : '/sbin/modprobe-  timeout: killing '/sbin/blkid-0 udev - p /dev/sdb'20:21
quibble42Yello20:21
evilytwistedlinux is amazing but difficult to learn20:21
quibble42***Okay, So I'm using compizconfig and have clicked both the desktop cube and rotate cube options. I now have a two panel 2D cube. It's like a blackboard that flips. It flips along the X axis, and I do not know how to solve this problem20:22
quibble42***Can anyone offer any assisstance?20:22
sharpieHow do I get a dbug of lightdm after login?20:22
Piciquibble42: add more virtual desktops.20:22
Dirk_it says it cant find the boot module and runs a bunch of timeout commands and killing usb and pci stuff.... but it eventually laods ubuntu20:23
quibble42Pici: How do i do this20:23
Piciquibble42: I don't have a graphical Ubuntu session in front of me, but I think its in the 'general' tab somewhere.20:23
Jordan_UDirk_: The error message you just quoted says nothing like "can't find boot module". What is the exact error message you're reffering to?20:24
quibble42Pici: I believe you are referring to the "Desktop Size" Tab which lets me change the number of desktops. I raised it and still no effect20:24
Dirk_what is posted is what error it gives... i wrote it down last time i booted up... if it's not enough information i'll reboot and try to write exactly what it's saying again, but i'm in the middle of downloading xuntu thru my terminal it will have to be when it finishes20:25
Dirk_i think it's almost done it's unpacking stuff now... so i think it's almost finished20:26
Dirk_or is there anyway i can find out the problem running a command thru the terminal?20:27
quibble42Pici: Also, When i modify the desktop dome, it does not work. Perhaps something is blocking it or running alongside and creating a conflict?20:27
quibble42Does anyone know how to fix the desktop cube when it becomes a 2D panel20:27
forbiJordan_U: can i use ubuntu to make a efi partition?20:29
sharad__hey20:29
Dirk_forbi..... i believe gparted will do what your inquiring20:30
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forbiDirk_: ok for efi?20:31
lasersecho hi20:32
Jordan_Uforbi: Yes.20:32
Dirk_FORBI..... i'm trying to check for a 1000% fact now but i'm almost sure that it will20:33
quibble42******Does anyone know how to fix desktop cube? My desktop cube and rotate cube are enabled but I only have a 2D panel, currently. It flips on an x axis. Can someone help?20:34
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clctohow do i get rid of #ubuntu-unregged in my status bar? i.e. how do i reggister with the ubuntu channel20:35
clcto!echo hi **20:36
ubottuclcto: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:36
Dirk_do you know if you have an efi partition on a drive now?20:36
Piciclcto: you're in #ubuntu, #ubuntu-unregged is our forward channel and it is part of our modes, you can ignore it.20:36
clctoPici: it just takes up my whole statusbar in weechat so i cant see if other channels have messaged20:37
IdleOneclcto: try /past #ubuntu-unregged20:37
IdleOneerr /part20:37
Piciclcto: configure weechat not to show arugments to modes in your statusbar then. irssi doesn't show that for me.  Perhaps the folks in #weechat can be of assistance.20:37
energizer1I'm listening to music from a plex server, and it's using 25% CPU. That seems really excessive. Thoughts?20:38
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quibble42My mouse is doubleclicking every time I click once.. How do i fix20:38
clcto[irc/irc.freenode.net] 4:#ubuntu(+CLcntfj #ubuntu-unregged 5:10)20:38
sharad_!info linux20:39
ubottulinux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.8.0.23.39 (raring), package size 1 kB, installed size 33 kB20:39
vashist!info linux20:39
clctois damn small linux the smallest live environment?20:40
vashist!info linux20:40
ubottulinux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.8.0.23.39 (raring), package size 1 kB, installed size 33 kB20:40
sharad_!info bot20:40
ubottuPackage bot does not exist in raring20:40
Pici!brain20:40
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots20:40
clctohow many times do we have to !info linux ?20:40
Pici!msgthebot20:40
ubottuPlease investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".20:40
Dirk_i just downloaded XBUNTU DESKTOP thru terminal  'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"  do i need to run it now or when i log out will it give me the option to load xbuntu desktop20:41
NoskcajDirk_, log out20:41
sharad_a20:43
sharad_a20:43
sharad_a20:43
FloodBot1sharad_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:43
Dirk_Noskca.... ok so it will be there if i log out... i'm new to all this... do i log out on the top right hand corner or reboot?20:43
vashist!info linux20:44
ubottulinux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.8.0.23.39 (raring), package size 1 kB, installed size 33 kB20:44
IdleOneDirk_: log out and at the login screen there will be either a gear icon you can click on or a button labeled session, there you can chose which DE you want to boot to.20:44
clctovashist: please stop doing thta20:44
bazhangvashist, /msg ubottu20:44
clctoDirk_: get a tiling wm, thats what the 1337 do20:45
vashistokay..i m new to IRC...thats' why was trying tht command20:45
IdleOneclcto: that wasn't helpful.20:45
clctoif he wants to be leet it was20:46
Dirk_QUESTION!?!?!?!?!  i'm am trying to apply ubuntu restricted extras and it's saying i must remove lIbav codec library & libav utlitly library....  it might be a stupid question but should i do this or just install anyway?20:47
IdleOneclcto: you're hardly placed to tell people how to be leet. Please stick to answering the questions that are asked and not making silly comments.20:47
clctook :(20:47
Dirk_clcto.... i have no clue what you were talking about dude.... i'm stupid to ubuntu still because ive only had it installed for 2 days so that "silly comment" was over my head20:49
clcto1337 means leet means elite, and a tiling wm is a window manager that places your windows in non-overlapping sections20:51
Dirk_.... well thanx i guess....20:52
Dirk_im trying to remove libav codecs and utility but don't see it in the software center... how do i find it to remove it?"20:53
Dirk_i cant find it in my dashboard or software center... but the software center says i sould remove the libav before installing ubuntu restricted extras20:55
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OerHeksDirk_, softwarecenter does that for you, when you install restricted extra's20:56
Physmartminimec: Hello. I had a problem.. Can you give me the link again20:56
BluesKajDirk_, open a terminal , sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras20:56
Physmartminimec: My problem was not solved.20:56
johnsmithHello. I have my tv connected to my monitor(dual monitor with pc monitor). Everything's fine until I suspend it, and when I wake up my computer, the tv shows "no signal", which means it isn't detecting my pc. How do I fix this? I try replugging the tv to the pc, and I end up having to restart my pc to make it work again.20:56
minimecPhysmart: http://askubuntu.com/questions/88384/how-can-i-repair-grub-how-to-get-ubuntu-back-after-installing-windows20:57
Dirk_OERKEKS.... that makes sense but i wasn't sure if it did. it only gives me the option to install anyway. so i wasn't sure if it removed it for me or just overlap the programs20:57
minimecphysmart: So again at step 6: 'apt-get remove fglrx', then 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'. You don't need 'sudo', as you are in a 'chroot' environment.20:57
Physmartfor i in /sys /proc /run /dev; do sudo mount --bind "$i" "/mnt$i"; done - should I run that?20:58
BluesKajjonatasnona, what kind of connection to the tv ?20:59
BluesKajoops , johnsmith^'20:59
johnsmithhdmi20:59
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Dirk_i'm not completely sure if i want to remove windows yet, i have both ubuntu and xp installed next to eachother. in windows it gives you the option to remove ubuntu thru the add/remove.... does ubuntu do this too?21:01
BluesKajjohnsmith,, onboard graphics I presume21:01
auronandaceDirk_: that would be a wubi install, wubi is being abandoned21:01
johnsmithI have intel g45/43 chipset for my pc.21:02
Dirk_so if i want to uninstall windows i need to reformat and reinstall?21:03
Physmartminimec: Aparently is working now. Ho can i set an older linux image from chmod environment?21:04
auronandaceDirk_: if you have a wubi install then you'd need to install ubuntu properly if you want to get rid of windows21:04
Physmartminimec: *how21:04
Dirk_thats a bummer21:05
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martinuxHey guys. I just installed ubuntu 13.04, and when I logout my screen turns purpleish and I can't do anything but reboot my laptop. Thanks for your help21:05
Physmartminimec: Do you know?21:06
minimecPhysmart: If you are in the graphical environment right now, you can install a package manager like synaptic and remove the linux-image, you want to remove.21:06
Dirk_can you write the ubuntu iso on a usb drive without using wubi?21:06
Physmartminimec: I am, but, from live cd?21:06
bazhangDirk_, yes21:07
auronandace!usb | Dirk_21:07
ubottuDirk_: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent21:07
minimecPhysmart: ok I see....21:07
Physmartminimec: From live cd, chmod environment, terminal, can I do that?21:08
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PhysmartFrom here, I updated the grub, and saw the older linux image.21:08
minimecPhysmart: 'dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image'21:08
minimecPhysmart: That should list the installed kernels.21:09
PhysmartI should thank you, since now..21:09
clctoDirk_: wubi is more or less a VM inside of windows21:09
Physmartminimec I should thank you, since now..21:10
Physmartminimec: How set the older now?21:11
minimecPhysmart: apt-get remove the newer one for example. You can always install it back later...21:12
Dirk_i'm reading these pages on  persistant mode and stuff....  what is the difference between the two and which should i roll with?21:12
minimecPhysmart: you can set the kernel to boot in /etc/default/grub I think...21:12
Physmartminimec: I am uprading the system from live cd, mounted. Is it plausible?21:13
gadjeehey guys am back again21:13
auronandaceDirk_: what do you want? to install from a usb or have an actual install on a usb?21:13
gadjeei wanna know more about ubuntu21:14
bazhang!manual | gadjee21:14
ubottugadjee: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/21:14
rudola_can anybody tell which cent os is beter for me.....i have 4 gb ram ,500 gb hard disk,AMD E350D...21:14
bazhang!rute | gadjee and this21:14
ubottugadjee and this: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com21:14
minimecPhysmart: Well... It should work, but I would first try to run that system.21:15
Dirk_i want to install on my computer21:15
bazhangrudola_, ask in #centos21:15
Physmartok.21:15
auronandaceDirk_: then you don't want the persistant install21:15
Dirk_persistant runs off usb only?21:15
gadjeei just got a problem with installing other softwares21:15
clcto!ask21:16
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:16
auronandaceDirk_: live usb is just like livecd, you boot it to install ubuntu to your computer. persistant usb is installing ubuntu to your usb21:16
gadjeei wana know how to install softwares21:17
auronandace!software | gadjee21:17
ubottugadjee: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents21:17
clctogadjee: sudo apt-get installl <package?21:17
clcto>21:17
Dirk_sorry for the ton of questions.......... i ran the terminal to aquire the restricted extras and i'm getting this screen and it wont let me move past it should i close out the terminal window and restart it?http://imagebin.org/25973521:19
moses_My ububntu update just froze21:19
lasersDirk_: Press tab?21:19
moses_how do i check if it is still going?21:19
harrisi have 2 com computers21:19
bazhangDirk_, hit the tab key then accept with enter21:19
Dirk_ha... amazing how dumb i can be sometimes.... thanx BAZHANG21:20
bazhangDirk_, thats not dumb at all, everyone gets caught at that screen21:20
xoantonplease to go to chanel in spanish ?21:20
bazhang#ubuntu-es xoanton21:21
xoantonthanks21:21
xoanton#ubuntu-es21:21
xoantonjoin #ubuntu-es21:21
Dirk_i'm going to try to run the grub2 package should i do it now or wait until i install xbuntu desktop21:21
clctoxoanton: /join21:22
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rudola<bazhang>their is no channel like #centos21:22
bazhangrudola, yes there is, I'm in it21:22
auronandacerudola: there is also ##linux21:23
moses_exit21:23
teeparkI just set up an apt-mirror instance, and didn't do anything to have it mirror i386 packages b/c they're big and I know I don't have any 32-bit machines21:23
primerashi all. Sorry my English isn't very well. I have a problem. I want to "creating hard link to directory"21:23
primerasHow I do21:23
teeparkbut now I get 404s in the amd64 hosts that try to pull from it21:23
teeparkthey are looking for i386 packages21:23
primerassudo ln a b21:23
primerasln: `a': hard link not allowed for directory21:23
teeparkhow do I stop them from going after i386 packages?21:23
laura4351hi how do i internet?21:23
gadjee i just got a glitch am back again21:25
regorianerin angstrom there is a nice tool called runit to autostart and restart programs which crashed. each program has its own run script and finish. whats the corresponding tool in debian/ubuntu? i read abouit systemd and sysinit, but i dont think that this is exactly what i was searching21:27
teeparkregorianer: it's called upstart21:28
teeparkregorianer: but if you ask me it's not that good, particularly next to systemd or runit/daemontools21:28
auronandace!upstart | regorianer21:28
ubotturegorianer: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/21:28
teeparkregorianer: I tend to have upstart run supervisord, which I actually *use* as my process babysitter21:28
kanaheehello, I am trying to install Sails, but it tells me I have 0.6.x of nodejs, but I cant seem to find how to update it, I am currently in ubuntu21:28
Dirk_how often  do you guys update? daily? weekly?21:29
regorianerwell, thanks for replay, i will read about upstart then21:29
regorianer*reply21:30
ubuntuhi21:30
auronandaceDirk_: whenever there are updates21:30
MMloshHello.. I just had a bunch of processes killed by the OOM killer... without the usual message in dmesg.  Is that normal?21:30
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regorianerDirk_: this actually depends on the system type21:30
Guest61916when/how can I savely cancel a bunch of gparted operations?21:30
regorianerif it aint broken dont fix it ? :D21:31
Guest61916it is fine if it finnishes the current operation and the next21:31
regorianerfor servers ;)21:31
Guest61916but not the ones after21:31
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Guest61916can someone help me now (quickly)21:32
Guest61916I assume it will ask me a confirm after clicking cancel21:32
Dirk_ubuntu 12.....  i just downloaded xbuntu desktop.... does this mean im still running xbuntu thru ubuntu 12 or how does that work?21:33
auronandaceDirk_: they use the same repositories21:33
bazhangDirk_, just a different desktop environment, underneath it s the same21:33
gadjeei got a problem with the sound,but i can play a video with a sound while the sound can come out but u can maximize the volume but cannot hear it21:34
Guest61916anyone please21:35
primerasthans21:35
Guest61916time is an issue21:35
primerasthanks21:35
Guest61916can I savely cancel the remaining gparted operations21:36
betraydyou already hit 'apply'?21:36
auronandaceGuest61916: i never queue actions in gparted, i always do one at a time and make sure thats what i want before i apply21:36
auronandaceGuest61916: seems you have little choice but to press cancel21:37
betraydor ride it out21:37
knivezso I closed my pkg updater restarted and then opened terminal and ran sudo apt-get update21:37
Dirk_AURONADANCE.... thnx..... i installed thru wubi but i'm thinking about installing the right way should i download the ubuntu iso and keep it the same (running ubuntu with xbuntu enviroment) or install xbuntu directly...  my goal is to get my comp to run my efficently because i have an older machine... some have suggested i keep ubuntu 12 and strip it down... my comp lags watching movies and can be kinda slow21:37
knivezi closed the update in the middle of an update though, will I be alright21:38
knivezthen I ran sudo apt-get clean21:38
auronandaceDirk_: get xubuntu or lubuntu21:38
harrisout of no where my chromium icons changed (back arrow refresh icon etc)21:38
Dirk_so i should install X or L instead of just trying to strip ubuntu down21:39
auronandaceharris: did you change your theme?21:39
harrisno i dont think so21:39
auronandaceDirk_: no point in starting with something if it comes with something you are not going to use21:40
auronandaceDirk_: start with xubuntu or lubuntu21:40
knivezwhat is a good ssh client for ubuntu?21:40
knivezdoes it come with one?21:40
riexputty?21:40
efuddopenssh? :)21:41
riex;D21:41
regorianeropenssh-client ?21:41
* efudd stabs riex21:41
knivezlol21:41
auronandace!info openssh | knivez21:41
ubottuknivez: Package openssh does not exist in raring21:41
Dirk_can i upgrade or run ubuntu enviroments with xbuntu?21:41
Guest61916I will reinstall the complete system21:41
riex;>21:41
auronandace!ssh | knivez21:41
ubottuknivez: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)21:41
Guest61916the estimated time of gparted is several weeks21:41
riextis21:41
Guest61916so I rather reinstall21:41
knivezi know what ssh is21:41
Guest61916thx anyway21:41
efudd!info openssh-client | knivez21:41
ubottuknivez: openssh-client (source: openssh): secure shell (SSH) client, for secure access to remote machines. In component main, is standard. Version 1:6.1p1-4 (raring), package size 947 kB, installed size 2541 kB21:41
auronandaceDirk_: environments?21:42
knivezsudo apt-get install openssh-client?21:42
echoeknives21:42
echoeit's standard21:42
echoeit should be in your install.21:43
knivezunder what? openssh-client?21:43
echoeopen a terminal21:43
efuddare you ... seeking a GUI?21:43
echoetype 'ssh [username]@[ip]21:43
Dirk_like i'm doing now i'm running ubuntu with xbuntu desktop.... can i run ubuntu desktop enviroments to get some of the extra perks that ubuntu offers if i install xbuntu OS21:43
echoewithout the '21:43
Physmartminimec: I am here again.21:44
knivezcan i save connections?21:44
echoewhat do you mean by that? you could write a script to do that I guess?21:44
* efudd goes back to gentoo21:44
auronandaceDirk_: they all use the same repos, you can install anything from any one you start with21:44
Physmartminimec: Can I install an AMD driver from live cd?21:44
Dirk_ok thanx man...21:44
echoeit remembers the connection so it doesn'task you the second time and you can always install ssh keys.21:44
knivezechoe: i mean like putty does21:44
echoethere is no gui so that would be kinda hard.21:44
echoeif you're looking for a gui that's a different thing21:45
knivezim not, ill put the connections in a text file21:45
efuddHeh. putty _does_ exist for linsux.21:46
* efudd blinks21:46
minimecPhysmart: Well.. you can install the fgrlx packages in the chroot environment. There is (or was) some ati inital command to configure fom console. Maybe that works21:46
Physmartminimec: I tried start the system and was in tty mode. With startx command, i get a fatal error - x server21:47
minimecPhysmart: The command was 'aticonfig --initial'. The last time I did something like that with ati cards is years ago...21:47
minimecPhysmart: Still now that you are on the harddrive, use the console from there.21:48
PhysmartHow to configure the xserver from here?21:48
minimecPhysmart: If you had some fglrx driver installed, you may have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf. You should remove that file 'sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf'21:49
Physmartminimec: can you give me the link?21:50
minimecPhysmart: Don't use the live CD anymor, if you can get a console on your system.21:50
harrishow can i login to to my ssh lxsession intead of unity in 13.0421:51
Physmartminimec: I can not conect the internet ferom tty mode.21:51
Physmartminimec: Or I can? Its a cable.21:52
Physmartminimec: I have to conect and update, upgrade, remove, install..21:52
minimecPhysmart: If it's ethernet, it connects automatically.21:52
Physmartminimec: good.21:52
Physmartminimec: So, I have to write everything i`ll need.21:53
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minimecPhysmart: I would first try to get the open source driver to run again, instead of installing that fglrx stuff again, without having a running system. Delete that /etc/X11/xorg.conf, if you have one.21:53
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mosesok so I have an ssh client already installed on ubuntu21:54
mosesthats pretty cool21:54
minimecPhysmart: But I can give you that link again... http://askubuntu.com/questions/88384/how-can-i-repair-grub-how-to-get-ubuntu-back-after-installing-windows21:55
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silareHi guys. I'm trying to work using PyGObject to develop apps for Ubuntu. Anyone know of a good IRC channel for Ubuntu Development (specifically PyGObject)?21:56
nikonrulerany1 able to help at all, I'm trying to get iptables to log to syslog, i can't seem to get it to log to /var/log/syslog but i can view the events running dmesg21:56
melow01how do i know whether my cdrom is mounted in ubuntu? I tried the mount command but cdrom doesn't show.21:56
harrisso i installed chromium but flash player isnt installed21:56
Physmartminimec: actually, the open source crashed my system. I have already downloaded one AMD driver. I will installed it.21:57
Physmartminimec: I mean, I will install.21:57
ubuntivHi21:58
ubuntivhello21:58
dazehey21:59
ubuntivI have several old computers, I want to use them all together using ubuntu server to get a high processing speed, is that possible?21:59
qinPhysmart: cannoy you install driver from repos? without downloading from site?21:59
MonkeyDustubuntiv  there's also #ubuntu-server, also, type !requirements22:00
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dazeubuntiv: depends on what you want to compute22:00
dazeubuntiv: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beowulf_cluster, https://computing.llnl.gov/tutorials/linux_clusters/22:00
Physmartqin: I installed from xorg-edgers ppa. this crap broken my system.22:00
ubuntivis it possible to run a normal GUI program in a way that it's processing power is distributed among those servers?22:00
gordonjcpin Nautilus how can I get rid of the massive bars that say "The media contains digital photos." and "These files are on a digital audio player." ?22:00
geniiOr, just make one for say web, 1 serves mail, etc... compartmentalize a service to each lower end machine instead of trying to make one large machine from them.22:01
dazeubuntiv: no22:01
diverdudeWhy is it that even though i did:  sudo apt-get remove libboost*  i still have all this boost left on my computer? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5721255/22:01
harriswho knows a lot about ssh here22:01
MonkeyDustharris  ask away!22:02
gordonjcp!ask | harris22:02
ubottuharris: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:02
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ubuntivSo I should distribute services among them rather than distributing A service among them?22:02
gordonjcpubuntiv: what spec are the machines?22:03
geniiubuntiv: That would be my tactic, instead of making some cluster.22:03
ubuntivI have to give each server a task of its own, right?22:03
FloodBot1!netsplit22:03
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dazediverdude: rc means they are marked for removal, but their configuration is still present22:03
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit22:04
harrishow can i login to to my ssh lxsession intead of unity in 13.0422:04
diverdudedaze, mmm i see...so what do i then need to do?22:04
dazesudo apt-get purge libboost*22:05
harrisMonkeyDust,22:05
ubuntivPentium III with 667MHz and 128MB RAM, Pentium II 333MHz with 64MB RAM, PIII with 256MB RAM, Celeron 2.8GHz with 512MB RAM22:05
gordonjcpharris: that doesn't make a lot of sense; what exactly are you trying to do?22:05
harrislxsession my raspberry pi22:05
gordonjcpubuntiv: weigh them in for scrap, buy a Raspberry Pi, a fast SD card and some beer22:05
MonkeyDustharris  what goes wrong when  you try?22:05
misterolafhelle people !22:05
harrisi dont know how to do it so i cant try22:06
diverdudedaze, great. thanks22:06
misterolafsomeone is usung bumblebee here ?22:06
misterolafusing22:06
gordonjcpubuntiv: actually, the Celeron isn't too bad, just use that and scrap the rest22:06
MonkeyDustharris  type /join #raspberrypi22:06
ubuntivThe issue is mainly to learn the trick, rather than to gain a true processing power, I believe my current Core i3 Laptop with 4GB RAM gives better performance than all of them together!22:06
gordonjcpubuntiv: do you pay your own electricity bill?22:06
harrisbut its an ubuntu question22:07
misterolafhey guys, someone use bumblebee here ? to siwtch between two graphics card on laptop ?22:07
harrisi want to ssh right away instead of using unity22:07
ubuntivI live in a place where power is cheap :P22:07
gordonjcpubuntiv: if you want to dick about with clusters, stick masses of RAM in the Celeron and run Xen on it22:08
gordonjcpubuntiv: then run each cluster node as a Xen DomU22:08
gordonjcpthat way when you ruin the node you can just blow it away and copy out a fresh one ;-)22:08
gordonjcpharris: what do you mean "ssh right away instead of using unity"?22:09
ubuntivgordonjcp, sorry but I couldn't exactly understand that, I'm still n00b :\22:09
misterolaf:/ nobody for helping me with nvidia drivers and bumblebee on ubuntu  ?22:09
gordonjcpubuntiv: put it this way, the Celeron on its own even with half a gig of RAM is way enough for a server22:09
gordonjcpubuntiv: the PII will be disappointingly slow, the PIII will make your electricity meter cry22:09
ubuntivIt is a laptop, BTW22:10
geniiubuntiv: We built a fairly large cluster here of P II- 400   ( in the end about 16-18 machines). It's a point of diminishing returns. At any rate, we used a system called Pelikan which wasn't bad. I'd still recommend just using them separately however.22:10
ubuntivThe Celeron is in a laptop22:10
junctionshello everyone!, I'm trying to download about a thousand of e-mails from gmail (specifically some that have a label, but I can also identify most of them by subject/date), and then be able to extract the reply-to-addresses, subjects and messages into a table. But I don't even know how to set up the mail deamon (and this is something annoyingly hard to google). So, what does #ubuntu recommend?22:10
MonkeyDustharris  ssh does not use X, hence does not use Unity22:10
gordonjcpubuntiv: slap some more RAM in it and buy a new battery, it's a pretty viable laptop with a lightweight variant of Ubuntu like maybe Xubuntu22:11
misterolafplease people... really need help, I spend a day and still can't find out why bumblebee not working :-(22:11
gordonjcp!repeat | misterolaf22:11
ubottumisterolaf: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/22:11
ubuntivWell, it is an Inspiron 1100, with Ubuntu 7.10 on it, but its video card is stupidly designed22:12
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MonkeyDust!eolupgrade | ubuntiv22:12
ubottuubuntiv: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades22:12
melow01I'm having cdrom issues and I get this from dmesg: Buffer I/O error on device sr022:13
harrisMonkeyDust, i want to log in straight to ssh22:13
MonkeyDustharris  how do you use ssh? what syntax? what goes wrong?22:13
harristerminal22:13
harrisssh harris@ipadress22:14
CoreyMonkeyDust: I believe harris wants to boot to runlevel 3 instead of 5.22:14
harrisbut22:14
harrisi want to boot or login straight to the lxsession22:14
ubuntivSo, EOL upgrade will be different from a fresh install?22:14
MonkeyDustharris  try ssh -X22:14
harrisso ssh -X harris@ip22:14
harrisok i did22:15
harrisnow what22:15
ubuntivWill the EOL upgrade keep the frustrating configs and tricks to get the video effects working? Will it save me from a new headache?!22:15
MonkeyDust!ssh | harris read this22:15
ubottuharris read this: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)22:15
MonkeyDustubottu  tip backup! backup! backup!22:16
ubottuMonkeyDust: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:16
MonkeyDustoops22:16
MonkeyDustubuntiv   tip: backup! backup! backup!22:17
ubuntivIt is dumped anyway, so... meh!22:18
ubuntivBut thanks for the tip, though.22:19
ubuntivA little question: can I update the Kernel ONLY on my Ubuntu 7.10?22:20
junctionsok quicker question. anyone know where thunderbird stores the mail in ubuntu?22:20
splitwireUbuntu 7.10 -- what type of hardware are you running that on?22:20
Jordan_Uubuntiv: Ubuntu 7.10 has been EOL for a *long* time. There is no support for it whatsoever. Please upgrade to a supported release if you want support.22:20
MonkeyDustjunctions  in ~/.thunderbird/22:21
ubuntivMonkeyDust: can you please describe for me the 'format' of the sentence "!eolupgrade | ubuntiv"? What does it implicate?22:21
modernbob3.8.0-23-generic  <-- that the latest ubuntu kernel you can get from repos22:21
ubuntivUbuntu 7.10 on Celeron 2.8GHz with 512MB RAM and a stupid useless intel video card22:21
ubuntiv3.8 kernel on Ubuntu 7.10??22:22
MonkeyDustubuntiv  backups keep you from having headaches -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades22:22
splitwireubuntiv - what about an upgrade with the Awesome desktop or something light?22:22
junctionsMonkeyDust, thanks, I hadn't looked into the hidden files in that folder22:22
Ben64ubuntiv: no, you need to upgrade to a supported release22:22
ubuntivBen64, can I update the kernel ONLY while keeping everything else?22:23
ubuntiv*upgrade22:23
Jordan_Uubuntiv: Most likely you will not have video problems if you upgrade to LUbuntu 12.04 or 13.04 as things have generally improved a lot in the past 5 years. (I recommend LUbuntu as it's much lighter than Ubuntu with Unity/GNOME and you have old hardware).22:24
Jordan_Uubuntiv: No.22:24
Ben64ubuntiv: your system is likely vulnerable too, you've been missing out on security updates for the past 4 years22:24
Jordan_Uubuntiv: You can try an LUbuntu 13.04 as a LiveCD/USB before you commit to installing it, to confirm that everything works without any fiddling.22:24
ubuntivGood advice Jordan_U, I'll consider that, THANKS ^__^22:24
Jordan_Uubuntiv: You're welcome.22:25
splitwireJordan_U - i used to run Lubuntu 12.04 on an old Acer netbook, it worked well; I also tried Fuduntu as well and it ran good22:25
ubuntivI think I'll go with the LUbuntu 12.04 since I prefer LTS version, it is a LTS, right?22:25
Ben64splitwire: fuduntu isn't supported here though22:25
splitwireubuntiv - what about trying puppy linux?22:25
splitwireI know - i was just throwing out ideas to try22:26
Ben64lubuntu doesn't do LTS for some reason22:26
MonkeyDustfudubtu and puppy are not supported here!22:26
MonkeyDustfuduntu*22:26
ubuntivIs it practical to use Ubuntu repositories on LUbuntu?22:26
MonkeyDustubuntiv  they are the same repos22:27
Jordan_Uubuntiv: The only difference between official Ubuntu flavors is the set of packages installed by default.22:27
melow01I can't seem to get dd to write an ISO file from cdrom: http://pastebin.com/bnU8xfgT22:27
ubuntivSo LUbuntu 12.04 SHOULD be LTS since it will keep gettings updates, amiright?!22:27
Ben64ubuntiv: i think support just stops for the lubuntu specific packages, but the ubuntu stuff is still supported for the full 5 years22:29
energizer1I want to highlight and make notes on a pdf. Okular's interface is really difficult and ugly. Is there anything better out there?22:29
geniimelow01: "I/O error" seems to indicate hardware.22:29
Jordan_Umelow01: Is this an audio CD?22:29
teknojunkiehello22:29
melow01genii, Jordan_U I see I/O error in dmesg too. Its an audio CD22:29
ubuntivIs the LTS supported for 3 or 5 years??22:29
MonkeyDustenergizer1  try inkscape22:30
Ben64audio cd's don't have a filesystem22:30
melow01genii, Jordan_U, But I'm able to playback audio just fine from the audio cd22:30
Ben64ubuntiv: starting with 12.04, LTS is 5 year support22:30
Ben64melow01: audio cd's don't have a filesystem22:30
ubuntivBen64, Thats truely great news dude!22:30
melow01Ben64, so how can I create a ISO from cdrom?22:30
Ben64melow01: from an audio cd -- you can't22:31
Jordan_Umelow01: You don't. It's not possible. What is your end goal?22:31
ubuntivRipping??22:31
melow01Ben64, Jordan_U ohhh... so I can create a ISO from a data disk but not an audio CD?22:31
Jordan_Uubuntiv: There are many CD ripping programs available, and pretty much all of them allow for lossless ripping if you want.22:32
Jordan_Umelow01: Correct. Audio CDs are not block devices.22:32
MonkeyDustubuntiv  try asunder (GUI) or jack -Q -R (terminal)22:32
ubuntivThanks, I'm just suggesting ripping to melow01, because I think it is what he needs22:32
melow01Ben64, Jordan_U now this makes sense, opps.22:32
melow01ubuntiv, ya I want to rip an audio disk22:32
Jordan_Uubuntiv: Sorry, I got you and melow01 confused for a moment :)22:33
melow01ubuntiv, via terminal22:33
Ben64iso files are called that because they are usually the iso9660 filesystem, the standard for data cdroms.22:33
MonkeyDustmelow01   try asunder (GUI) or jack -Q -R (terminal)     (I addressed the wrong person)22:33
ubuntivnever mind Jordan_U, we are all identified by a few 0's and 1's here!22:33
Ben64since audio cds are just raw audio data written to a disc, it doesn't have a filesystem, so you can't read it like one :)22:33
melow01Ben64, I see... now i get it. I should have known that... (I'm an audio engineer)22:33
melow01MonkeyDust, cool, jack sounds like what I need22:34
MonkeyDustmelow01  -Q = Query, -R = Rename22:34
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ubuntivA little flashing thought: Since I'm Iraqi, would it make sense to fork a distro off Ubuntu and make it an Iraqi Linux Distro?22:35
Physmartminimec: Me again. My system is not responding. I have to reconfigure the xorg-xserver from live cd.\22:36
Physmartminimec: Is already mounted.22:36
martinuxhey. I just installed ubuntu 13.04 on my Lenovo g580. When I logout I hear the logout sound, my screen turns purple-ish and I can't do anything. How can I diagnose and fix this?22:36
MonkeyDustubuntiv  a new ubuntu fork, but these name are taken: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/UbuntuFamilyTree1210.svg22:37
ubuntivWOW! That's a hell of a tree!!!22:37
ubuntivSo it DOES make sense to make a new fork specialized for Iraqis needs..22:38
robotdevildo I have to use ubuntu twaek to move windows x min and and max to the right hand side?22:41
robotdevil12.0422:41
MonkeyDustrobotdevil  in 13.04, use uniy-tweak-tool22:41
MonkeyDustok22:41
robotdevilMonkeyDust: is the tweak tool necessary or just the easiest way22:42
MonkeyDustrobotdevil  in 12.04, use dconf-editor22:42
robotdevilok22:43
PhysmartHow to remove one driver installed from xorg-edgers ppa22:43
MonkeyDustrobotdevil  in 13.04, it's a lot easier22:43
MonkeyDustPhysmart  remove the ppa22:44
PhysmartMonkeyDust: Just that?22:44
TheUsDIf I have ubuntu on VB, how do I get it to see the physcial HDD of the windows machine?22:45
robotdevilMonkeyDust: well I normally use kde so I am at a loss for this but I had to switch from kubuntu 13.04 to mint 12.10 to get some stability in my desktop. This is a computer for someone else so I opted for 12.04  and unity.22:45
MonkeyDustPhysmart  afaik, xorg is deprecated; ppa's are not supported, type !ppa to find out why22:45
* ubuntiv- is same as ubuntiv, only lost connection22:46
karlmhainesi'm using ubuntu 13.04 and flash absolutely will not work!! i followed someone elses instructions and untilled gnash or whatever and some other stuff, and reinstalled just adobe-flashplugin, it stull doesn't work, its all distorted22:46
harrisMonkeyDust,22:46
harrisi just installed chromium22:46
Physmart!ppa22:46
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge22:46
harriswhy isnt flash installed22:46
ubuntiv-karlmhaines try using Google chrome (rather than Chromium)22:46
* robotdevil like that mint installs the kde-ufw out of the box as well22:46
MonkeyDustharris  because flash is a 3rd party app22:47
* ubuntiv- hates flash and prefers the new HTML5 implementations22:47
harrisflash player22:47
MonkeyDust!flash | harris22:47
ubottuharris: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash22:47
harrisits supposed to come with chrome22:47
Physmart!ppa-purge22:47
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html22:47
MonkeyDustrobotdevil  yes, but mint is not ubuntu22:48
ubuntiv-MonkeyDust, you didn't explain to me what does !<phrase> | <person> format means?22:48
Dirk_realy quick i'm looking at some different disto's to install and want to download dynebolic which iso should i download and whats the difference between themdynebolic-3.0.0-beta.iso  dynebolic-3.0.0-beta.iso.md5     dynebolic-3.0.0-beta.iso.md5.asc22:48
MonkeyDustubuntiv-  it's cales a !factoid22:48
MonkeyDustcalled*22:48
ubuntiv-why the negation mark (!) then? :P [aka exclamation mark]22:48
robotdevilMonkeyDust: ya I know, just using example of why chose 12.04, is 13.04 ready in your opinion now, or should I just use 12.0422:49
karlmhainesubuntiv-: looks like chromium is the only browser avaialable22:49
robotdevilMonkeyDust: I see there was another kernel update a few days ago22:49
Dirk_what's the difference between iso.  iso.md5 & iso.md5.asc22:49
MonkeyDustrobotdevil  12.04 if you want long support, 13.04 if you want the latest stuff... decide...22:49
ubuntiv-karlmhaines you have to add the Google repository to your sources22:49
robotdevilMonkeyDust: from what I understand 13.04 was shipped with flakey kernel22:50
MonkeyDustrobotdevil  i'm happy with 13.0422:50
maroloccioMy NIC comes up as eth1, i can see eth0 in dmesg, what could be renaming it?22:50
robotdevilok22:50
Physmartminimec: Can you give me the link one more time?22:51
ubuntiv-karlmhaines: To add Google to your sources: Go to Ubuntu software center -> edit -> Software sources22:51
mehworkcan someone with expert partitioning skills look at my current partition table here http://pastebin.com/GNdhyiDu and explain how i can make it so all i do is restore my windows recover partition and delete ubuntu? I already deleted the ubuntu and swap but it still shows /dev/sda as empty and 'grub>' when i boot22:51
minimecPhysmart: http://askubuntu.com/questions/88384/how-can-i-repair-grub-how-to-get-ubuntu-back-after-installing-windows ;)22:51
karlmhainesubuntiv-: i got it, thatnks!22:51
karlmhainesubuntiv-: hope it works, lol22:51
nikonrulerhey22:51
TheUsDIf I have ubuntu on VB, how do I get it to see the physcial HDD of the windows machine?22:52
ubuntiv-you are welcome karlmhaines :)22:52
nikonrulerwonder if some one can help me with some syslog issues22:52
nikonruleri can't get iptables to log to syslog22:52
ubuntiv-TheUsD, what do you mean by VB?22:52
nikonruleri can see events by running dmesg22:52
floogyubuntiv there is already something like arabeyes for arabic http://pastebin.com/DnXhghTJ22:52
TheUsDvirtual box22:52
mehworkubuntiv-: virtual box22:52
minimecPhysmart: Again... Check if you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf and delete it, if you want to use the open source driver.22:52
mehworkTheUsD: probably a question for #vbox22:53
Physmartminimec: I do not have this file.22:53
ubuntiv-Oh, sorry I was confused because of my shameful history with Visual Basic O.o22:53
minimecPhysmart: ok.22:53
Physmartminimec: I can not fix my problem. Its sad.22:53
seronisim currently trying to use the 'convert' command from the console to change a PDF to a PNG image.  The pdf is crystal clear but the fonts are highly blurred in the resulting PNG image and some fine lines are just missing22:53
seronisany help in fixing this ?22:53
mehworkubuntiv-: that is shameful if you thought ubuntu could be installed in visual basic :p22:53
nikonrulerjoin #iptables22:54
ubuntiv-No I didn't think that! But I was just confused and thought it was a typo or something..22:54
bennypr0fanehello, anybody here familiar with gnome shell? I have Gnome 3.8 on Lubuntu 13.04. Problem is the scrollbar on the right of most windows is really tiny and thin. I can't seem to fix that by making changes to the Gnome UI/GTK+ Where can I find the right setting for this? What I've tried is different GTK+ themes, but that doesn't change that scrollbar22:54
MonkeyDustbennypr0fane  where did you get 3.8? a PPA? if yes, it's not supported, type !ppa to find out why22:55
iPenguinHello22:55
minimecPhysmart: the open source driver should work, as the live CD works. If you got a graphical environmet, you can install fglrx again, but avoid that ppa... ;)22:56
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ubuntiv-Hi iPenguin22:56
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Physmartminimec: ok.22:57
Physmartminimec: I am talking to you from a live cd.. I would like to do everything from here.. But, I can not/.22:57
betraydhmmm22:57
robotdevilcan the donation be wrote of on taxes?22:58
SolarisB1ymaroloccio: udev maybe. do you have more than one NIC? or did you swap nics?22:58
bennypr0fane!ppa22:59
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge22:59
seronisrobotdevil:  depends on the tax laws of your residence.  Ask a professional22:59
minimecPhysmart: Well.. again go into that chroot environment. If you messed around again with fglrx, 'apt-get remove fglrx', then 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'. That should do for the open source driver, if you checked for a redundant /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.23:00
bennypr0faneMonkeyDust,  well of course, it's the Gnome Team ppa. But just because it'sa not officially supported doesn't mean I can't fix that problem, right?23:00
seronisbennypr0fane: it just means that its not 'officially supported' and that means some people who might know the answer will refuse to give it.  just be patient after asking, ignore the 'unsupported' comments and if someone knows they might speak up23:02
bennypr0faneI actually wanted 3.6, but for Gnome on Lubuntu, that ppa is that only option, and it contains 3.823:02
bennypr0faneseronis thanks23:02
bennypr0faneam being patient :-)23:03
seronisyup =-)23:03
bennypr0faneanyhow, the looks of the window chrome is controlled by GTK+, not Gnome Shell, yes?23:04
iPenguinHi,when i boot ubuntu from my pendrive,i get a error message which says "This kernel requires an x86-64,but only detected an i686 CPU. Unable to reboot- please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU" what does this mean?23:05
olavikingstill nobody using bumblebee here ?23:05
bennypr0faneiPenguin sounds like you have 64 bit image on your pendrive23:06
seronisiPenguin: and also only have a 32bit processor23:06
dazeolaviking: did you read Arch Linux wiki on Bumblebee?23:06
betraydpick a x86 kernel, you havent a 64bit CPU iPenguin23:06
olavikingyes :/23:06
iPenguinDo i need to get the x36 one?23:07
olavikingim installing a new kernel23:07
dazeolaviking: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bumblebee23:07
olavikingwill see how it work ...23:07
bennypr0faneiPenguin, x8623:07
olavikingok tks23:07
bennypr0fane32bit23:07
iPenguinMay i request for the link to download the x86 one please?23:08
seronisiPenguin:  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop23:09
thecodeischaosits not difficult to find23:09
seronisin the pulldown menu just make sure its on 32bit not 64bit23:09
Ben64its the default one23:09
iPenguinOnly has two.options23:09
iPenguina x36 and x64. Which one do i need to download?23:10
quibblehisto: calling all histos23:10
gordonjcpiPenguin: whichever one best suits your hardware23:11
gordonjcpiPenguin: unless you know for sure your computer only does 32-bit, get the 64-bit one23:11
seronisgordonjcp:  his error was the 64bit version failed to install23:11
betraydiit already warned you about x6423:11
seronishe needs 32bit23:11
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bennypr0fanegordonjcp, we've established that already23:11
betraydyou missed his first post23:11
bennypr0faneiPenguin, it's x86, not x3623:12
bennypr0fanex86 is for you23:12
bennypr0fane32 bit23:12
HexagoniteNeed help with my wireless, it drops at times - Atheros 928523:13
bennypr0fanewhy are the 32 bit cpus actually called x86?23:13
harrisis dr_willis here23:13
Jordan_UiPenguin: If your computer is old enough to not have a 64 bit CPU you almost certainly want to use LUbuntu over Ubuntu with Unity/GNOME.23:14
bennypr0faneWhat theme are you guys using for your dekstop? I'm looking for one with all the controls nice 'n big23:14
clctobennypr0fane: im using notion23:14
iPenguinlubuntu?23:15
bennypr0faneJordan_U, aren't there any 32bit dual core machines?23:15
Jordan_Ubennypr0fane: Because there was 386 then 486 then 586 then 686, and they were all 32 bit, hence "X"86.23:15
harriswhy doesnt chromium have adobe flash23:15
bennypr0faneiPenguin, Lubuntu is easier on your hardware, it'll run faster23:15
Jordan_Ubennypr0fane: Yes, there are/were. That doesn't change any of my previous statements.23:16
bennypr0faneharris, that's not a matter of that browser not having Flash, but of it not being installed on your system23:16
clctoharris: chrome has its own flash or something23:16
harristhe adobe flash plugin IS installed23:17
bennypr0faneclcto, what's that supposed to mean, its own flash?23:17
clctohttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-enable-flash-support-for-google-chromium-browser.html23:17
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ulkeshbennypr0fane: google has its own flash implementation called PepperFlash, and they bundle it with Chrome23:17
clctothank you ulkesh23:18
bennypr0fanewow, didn't know that23:18
ulkeshI was a flash/flex developer for 4+ years :)23:18
ulkeshUntil Adobe decided to kill it23:18
bennypr0faneulkesh kill what? flash? the instruction on that page makes it look like Chromium just wants you to enable the plugin manually. I mean that Flash used here is not the one from google, right?23:19
ulkeshbennypr0fane: you misunderstand me, i'm talking about adobe abandoning flex in favor of html5, a programmatic gripe which forced me to either deal with javascript (a language i loathe) or work on server-side programming (which i've done mostly since)23:20
Infectedsunshine.23:22
MrokiiHello. Does anybody know where I can get info about the Thunar extension API?23:22
bennypr0faneJordan_U, actually the x86 part of the naming checks out for me, the "x64" just doesn't go together with it. It I find makes it look like less processing power than x8623:22
ulkeshbennypr0fane: and yes, if chromium doesn't automatically have flash, you may have to install the plugin from adobe…but chrome itself already has one built-in23:22
bennypr0faneclcto is your theme on gnome-look.org?23:23
Infectedsunshinehey ethiapath23:23
ethiapathhello23:23
Physmartminimec: guess?23:23
minimecPhysmart: I am optimistic. You got it done ;)23:24
Physmartminimec: I reaaly would like. No. I need the link again... I will keep trying.23:25
minimecPhysmart: Can0t you save that one somewhere? ;) http://askubuntu.com/questions/88384/how-can-i-repair-grub-how-to-get-ubuntu-back-after-installing-windows23:26
Physmartminimec: Ok. I will write.23:26
dr_willispost it to your facebook page. ;)23:27
md_5can someone with a launchpad account please tell me which email I used for https://launchpad.net/~md-523:28
md_5thanks!23:28
Mrokiimd_5: It says "no public address provided."23:29
md_5fak23:29
md_5hmm23:29
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quibbleHey, could someone help me with my xorg.conf? My mouse is double clicked and I believe it is an affiliated problem, however I cannot find xorg.conf in my directory to modify its qualities23:31
quibbledouble clicking*23:31
Physmartminimec: What is the command line to list all linux image installed?23:31
minimecPhysmart: dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image23:31
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quibbleello?23:32
Mrokiimd_5: Would it help if I'd send you a message via launchpad?23:32
md_5nah  I got it23:33
md_5thanks23:33
Mrokiiyw23:33
quibbleMy mouse is double clicking when I single click. Can someone help23:36
thecodeischaosmight be your mouse23:38
SuperLagIf you've got something like Chrome, where each "instance" of it is its own process... is there a way to get a *total* for all the processes? or do you just have to add them all up?23:39
Physmartminimec: I updated & upgraded my broken system from live cd. I will restart and see now... Luck for me... Thank you.23:40
minimecPhysmart: I wish you good luck.... ;)23:41
quibbleminimec: do you think you could help me? I have a few issues23:41
minimecPhysmart: NExt step would be to pin back your whole install to the default packages...23:41
Physmartminimec: Yes..23:42
minimecquibble: Just ask you question in the #channel. If someone knows the answer, you will get the answer...23:42
karlmhainesexit23:42
quibbleminimec: Err, yes, how do I get there23:43
echoeSuperLag, http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/australia/keeping-an-eye-on-chromes-memory-usage/146723:44
minimecquibble: Sorry. You are in the #ubuntu channel right now. I just read your question right now.23:44
minimecquibble: At first sight, I would not know an answer...23:44
quibbleminimec: how do i get to #channel23:45
thecodeischaoslol23:45
minimecquibble: There is no #channel... #ubuntu is the #channel, but you can join a channel typing '/join #ubuntu+1' for example.23:46
quibbleminimec: Thanks :D23:46
minimecquibble: Why would you need a xorg.conf anyway? And why do you feel the need to add some mouse and keyboard stuff?23:47
quibbleminimec: I googled how to fix the double clicking mouse and it told me to replace some corrupt type in the xorg.conf. I just can't find the folder I need to get to23:48
minimecquibble: Even if you need a /etc/X11/xorg.conf, the config doesn't have to be complete. So you can leave out keyboard and mouse, even if you need to configure the GPU, screen, monitor stuff.23:48
minimecquibble: What kind of mouse device is that?23:49
minimecquibble: ... and can you post us that link?23:49
quibbleminimec: It's a logitech M100. It has been working fine so far. And sure hold on23:49
quibbleminimec:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78346723:50
minimecquibble: I mean that thread is rather old. In the meantime, the whole xorg architecture has changed. I don't know if you get your problem solved with this...23:52
quibbleminimec: This has been happening to me a lot. I think I should just try restarting the computer. I'll be right back23:53
jaynhow to install a .tgz file please ?23:54
jaynhow to install a .tgz file please ?23:55
rypervenchejayn: You need to compile it from source.23:55
jaynhow please ^^23:55
SuperLagechoe: nice. Thank you. So Chrome is using 4.3GB on my system right now. :D23:56
Ben64jayn: you should read the readme file or look at the documentation on the site you got it from23:56
zykotick9jayn: you might want to consult "/msg ubottu checkinstall" so you can remove it!23:56
* echoe googlebows23:56
quibble_problem unsolved23:57
SuperLagechoe: it's too bad it doesn't tell me how many tabs are open. When my wife looks at my screen, she just shakes her head at me23:58
FoxyRK9I am using Ubuntu 13.04 with rythmbox and I keep having to give Last.FM access to my library to scrobble. Is there a way to make it login automatically?23:58
jaynthe package is from http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/studio.html#download23:58
echoeyou could make it tell you how many processes23:58
SuperLag53 tabs23:59
minimecquibble: if this is your mouse, there is some info, that is newer. Follow the guide for 11.04... http://techvisionblog.in/activate-additional-tilt-buttons-on-you-mouse-in-ubuntu/23:59
echoethat's lots. lol23:59
SuperLagechoe: 32GB of RAM helps ;)23:59
echoeyes. yes it does23:59

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