[00:00] yes, haha [00:00] but everything is right [00:01] does anything look out of norms [00:01] maybe lsblk might work better for you. [00:02] got it but I don't know what any of it means [00:03] Alright. sdX means a device. Hard drive/Disk Drive ect [00:03] sdXY means a partition on the device [00:03] so sda1 would be the first partition on the first hard drive. [00:03] yep. understand that [00:03] sr? [00:04] There are also sizes. You should have an idea on what you want to mount at this point. [00:04] yes [00:04] then it is mkdir /mnt/myMountName [00:04] mount /dev/sdXY /mnt/myMountName [00:05] sudo for both commands. [00:05] what exactly will this do? [00:05] if it complains about cifs (windows) then mount.cifs [00:05] it will mount device to directory under /mnt [00:05] then you access it. [00:06] quite welcome to man mount [00:06] I am just a dude on the internet. [00:06] and to unmount? [00:06] umount [00:06] groovy [00:07] there is a umount -all option or something like that, but I find it causes problems. [00:07] No doubt [00:07] Well, thanks. Gonna try that and see what happens. [00:07] be aware that it is read write. [00:08] you rm something it does go away [00:47] Genii-around: I'm trying to do this, but what does "Seeding" mean? It's been showing on UTorrent 3.3 for 20 minutes. [00:48] xubuntu268: "seeding" means you are now feeding parts of that file to others. Thats how torrents work. [00:49] xubuntu268: If it's reached that stage, then you have the file you were trying to get now. [00:49] I don't understand. Does it mean the installation program is installed and ready on my computer, or not? [00:52] It's been downloaded by the uTorrent program. Nothing else has been done with it yet. If this was the Xubuntu ISO file you downloaded, now you have to put it on something your computer can boot. Since your CD is no good, you should use unetbootin from the link xubuntu739 mentioned earlier to convert it for use on an USB stick [00:52] xubuntu268: ^ [00:53] A more simpler sense is to think uTorrent is nothing more than a download manager. In crude terms. [00:53] I have it on a USB stick. If I put it into the computer where I want to install Xubuntu, will it do that now? [00:55] You were supposed to download into computer (ideally) and then use things like unetbootin as described before to write to USB so that you can boot from USB. Having a copy of it downloaded on USB when you have to make it work doesn't make things easier. [00:55] xubuntu268: Just copying an iso file to a USB stick will not do the job. Because the ISO file is an image of a DVD. If you just copy the file over it will just be a DVD image file that got copied to a USB stick [00:56] xubuntu268: To convert CD/DVD iso files into something you boot from USB, you must use a program to make the conversion. For Windows, you want to use the Unetbootin program to do this. [00:56] But I downloaded to the USB and tried to use the software to open it. I get a file with a .paf extension. Is that the one ready to use? [00:57] I'm not quite sure how much more plainly I can explain it than i already have [00:57] K. Thankis. [01:10] hey guys, I was trying to update some packages and got an aptdaemon error and now I cannot mount any disks, usb dvd, nothing. What must I do to resolve this? [01:11] nixnine: as I mentioned in the other channel, please put the error in a paste.ubuntu.com link so people can see it [01:12] okay [01:14] Okay, here's what I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5718550/ [01:16] nixnine: when does this error occur? [01:16] When I try to update packages [01:17] what command are you using? [01:17] I am using the software updater [01:18] should I try update through terminal? [01:18] nixnine: so you launch the updater from the menu, and that error pops up? or..? [01:19] yes. Just got another error: he connection to the daemon was lost. Most likely the background daemon crashed. [01:20] The error window is backend_helper.py [01:20] so I've never seen this error before, but my suggestion would be to attempt to get this fixed by doing an upgrade at the command line [01:21] so try: apt-get update [01:21] then: apt-get upgrade [01:21] see 1) if those work 2) where it gets you :) [01:21] okay. will do now [01:21] and sorry, you need sudo before those commands [01:22] unable to open /var/lib/sudo/nixnine/3: Read-only file system [01:22] yikes [01:22] I know [01:23] here's the results: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5718567/ [01:23] so that's not just a problem with mounting external devices, sounds like your whole system is read-only [01:23] usually happens when your disk goes bad [01:24] I can restart it then it does fine for a little while -- unless I try to update [01:24] so it sounds like it runs ok until you hit some bad sectors on your harddrive, and then the system forces remounting as read-only to protect it from further corruption [01:24] that's what I was thinking but I ran it through the smart utility and it didn't report anything bad [01:25] smart isn't the most reliable thing :) [01:25] Whens the last time you did fsck? [01:25] havent in a long time [01:25] now? [01:27] Probably better to do that from recovery boot, even if the system is currently read-only [01:27] from recovery mode? [01:28] Yes, whatever the ubuntustudio people call it :) [01:29] okay. That won't mess anything up will it? [01:29] well, mess up more than what it is [01:30] The odds are it probably won't do anything more than what's already the problem, plus it may clean up orphaned files or other bad stuff. [01:30] Might also want to check you didn't fill up the drive too [01:31] yeah, I ran fsck without changing anything. This is what I got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5718577/. Should I yes everything? [01:31] In recovery mode [01:34] looks like somethings up, eh? [01:35] nixnine: probably want to say "yes" but you really should make sure you have good backups [01:35] Well, I can't mount anything to back up anything [01:36] or is there another way to create a backup? [01:39] Well, guess I'll try it. Maybe be back . . . . Hope i'll be back with all my fingers and toes intact === genii-around is now known as genii [01:54] Made it back [01:55] How do I know everything went well? [01:56] I complete an update without error [01:56] I can mount all my drives [01:56] Guess that means everything cool, eh? [01:59] Well, thanks pleia2, genii [01:59] nixnine: probably still need to be cautious, I'd make backups now :) [01:59] since it's unclear what caused it [01:59] how should I do that? [02:00] get an external harddrive to back stuff up, get a dropbox account, up to you [02:00] Okay. Just drop and drag my docs and stuff, eh? [02:00] drag and drop [02:00] hm [02:01] yes, you could do that [02:02] there are also some backup tools in the software center, I'm not really familiar with them though [02:02] you are talking about backing up my docs, pics, music, video? Nothing with the system, right? [02:03] if your harddrive completely died tomorrow, whatever you would be sad to lose [02:03] some people back up their entire drive, some just everything in /home some just back up photos [02:03] gotcha. [02:04] I keep most of my stuff on an ext hd now. [02:05] well, tanks again for the help. Will return with the next problem ---- but hope that takes a while to arrive. [02:06] sup guys} [02:08] Can anyone help me with a little tweak? [02:08] Im using 12.10 and I want square corners on my windows [02:08] but the theme selector doesn't seems to change the corners, even with custom themes [02:12] Hey secret_ninja [02:12] hey darblue [02:12] can you help me? ;_; [02:12] at last, somebody to chat with while i install mir.. sure, ill try.. wassup? [02:13] I want to put square corners at xfce@xubuntu 12.10 [02:13] but the selector didn't make changes on the title bar [02:14] Any ideas? [02:15] on your windows? [02:15] yes [02:19] r u using lightdm? [02:20] nope, the other one [02:20] (sorry, im a n00b at this) [02:22] lemme go grab my dinner, brb [02:22] okat [02:23] okay* [02:30] more /etc/X11/Xsession.options [02:31] more /etc/X11/default-display-manager [02:31] ^^^for darkbluecat [02:31] secret_ninja, I already fixed it! [02:31] I feel more dumb than earlier [02:31] ahaha [02:31] cool. where was the setting? [02:32] "Window Manager" and "Themes" are different options, And I get confused with the Gnome order [02:32] And, "Windows manager" was the option. [02:33] i dont use the gui tools, i try to find the config file and mod it. [02:33] Im just getting a little bit envolved on Linux Systems [02:34] and I found easy to use Xubuntu [02:34] learn so much more that way. but, only worth it if you are not trying to do anything *else* important. [02:35] most valuable tools to learn to use.. cat, more and grep [02:37] what are those tools? [02:38] text based utilities.. [02:39] cat copies a prints a file to the screen. more does the same thing, 1 page at a time and grep is a search tool. [02:40] im more of a command line type of guy [02:40] cat, more and grep [02:40] Im gonna memorize that :3 [02:41] very useful when you are trying to find a setting and don't know where it is... [02:43] Hello, just realizing this now... my hardware volume up/down/mute buttons are not actually doing anything in Xubuntu 13.04 - Any ideas on where to start? I can change the volume via the software slider in the volume notification area icon... just the buttons don't work. The do however work in regular ubuntu and kubuntu. [02:45] what buttons dont work? [02:45] in the application? [02:45] no, hardware buttons on the laptop [02:45] they do nothing :( [02:46] phunyguy: im in the same position.. well sorta. touching my volume slider makes the volume setting appear in the taskbar but it doesnt move.. it just 'twitches' like its trying to respond and gives up [02:46] that sounds completely different. I think I am missing a keymap somewhere [02:46] but the functionality exists by default in k/ubuntu [02:51] it seems the button presses are seen as normal xf86lower/upper type commands.... just gotta figure out what the command line is to raise/lower/mute/unmute [03:08] figured it out... was the same issue I had before... something keeps corrupting ~/.cache/sessions [03:08] :( [03:10] but there is one annoyance. How can I tell it to unmute the volume if I hit "volume up"? Currently if I mute, and hit volume up, the hardware itself unmutes (bios controlled maybe?) but pulse is still muted. If I hit the hardware mute button again, it unmutes pulse, but hardware mutes (bios again!) so it ends up backwards [03:10] so frustrating!! [03:11] phunyguy, agreed. Little annoyances like that do provoke the rage response at times [03:11] I want to love XFCE, but it is stuff like this that really starts to wear on me. [03:12] Someone please tell me there is a setting somewhere to change this behavior... [03:13] phunyguy, it's not in the usual spots one would expect ... [03:13] really all that needs to happen is to unmute pulse on volume up. [03:13] would solve it 100% [03:22] phunyguy: never really considered this behavior to be annoying.. but you could add some custom keybindings as a workaround [03:54] brainwash: typically it wouldn't be, but this ThinkPad model hard-mutes with the hardware button, not OS controlled at that point, but the OS adding that one piece could make it SIGNIFICANTLY less annoying. [03:55] so if the mute light is lit on the button, and pulse says it's NOT muted, I still don't get sound. [03:55] so if I hit the mute button again, that MUTES pulse, so I get no sound, but the hardware mute is off. [04:31] so im trying to wipe my old windows xp cpu clean and install xubuntu what would be the easiest way to go about this job [04:31] any ideas [04:34] rocky, normal install, use the complete HDD and format it. [04:42] and i need either usb or and disk correct or is there a wubi im tring to find a wubi [04:42] and thank you cfhowlett [04:44] rocky, be aware wubi is being killed off and for good reason. IF you have a wubi install, I'd highly recommend you consider dual booting [04:44] rocky, if your system will support it, I'd go with the USB installation option. Otherwise, make a boot CD and get happy [04:45] rocky, you're killing off windows, right? So you don't need/want wubi ... [04:45] yea def tired of windows [04:46] rocky, good. no wubi. [04:46] and no dual boot [04:46] im somewhat a noob i was involved with cpus alot in like 2000 but its been a while [04:48] rocky, no worries. sounds like you have an older system. probably won't support usb. be aware that lubuntu and xubuntu are both optimized for older/low tech machines. [04:48] i tried to make it so i can boot from usb in system settings i should change the primary boot drive to usb [04:49] im pretty sure i have this option [04:50] rocky, then you're golden. word of advice: don't download the ISO, use torrent. and md5sum check before you make the bootable cd/usb [04:51] you ve been a big help thank you alot man [04:51] rocky, be safe/have fun [04:53] yea its all just experementing for fun anyways and seriously you should get the award for best online tech support awesome [04:53] rocky, *blush* happy to help [04:54] last one regular or alternate im on the xubuntu site [04:54] for download [04:56] rocky, using 12.04 Long Term Support? regular [04:56] yup [04:57] rocky, cool. gtg: work [05:35] any ubuntu program I can use to replace google reader? [05:35] blackgatonegro: liferea [05:37] and any only thingie? [05:38] online [05:41] blackgatonegro: imho netvibes.com or commafeed.com [05:42] what about feedly? [05:48] blackgatonegro: i didnt like it at all [05:48] but its my opinion :) you can test it out of course [05:49] well, basicaly I am using it as backup [05:49] may switch to something else later [05:49] im using commafeed :) [05:49] its pretty much like greader :) [05:51] I may try The Old Reader just to see what happens === ubott2 is now known as ubottu === jackson is now known as Guest3397 [08:59] hello2all [08:59] please,advice. is any way to install apps on non system partion? [09:00] alex_alex, that is a question you can usk on #ubuntu, many more people are there [09:01] yes, i already asked but with no result till n ow [09:04] dpkg nows --instdir [09:43] is 3.8.0.23 the latest kernel?? [09:55] SKYLAKE-10nm: https://www.kernel.org/ [09:56] SKYLAKE-10nm: ou you mena the ubuntu one? [09:56] SKYLAKE-10nm: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/linux-image [09:57] yes i know , the the latest stable is 3.9.4 i meant the oficial xubuntu release kernel is 3.8.0.23 or is just me that get that update [09:57] based on my hardware [09:57] because i know that the latest kernels has drop support for lot of old hardware [09:57] sorry this isnt the last one [09:59] :( === topyli_ is now known as topyli [10:14] hello. Are we to use the terminal for updating xubuntu or is there a gui, the gui does not seem to be easy to find [10:16] deckard: update-manager :) [10:16] yes i know but it is hiding from stock xubuntu [10:17] ahh yes, i find it unticked in main menu [10:17] i have it now, ty [10:18] terminal emulator is same as terminal? [10:18] yes [10:19] ty [10:19] how much less resources does xfce use than xubuntu ? [10:20] over 9000 [10:21] i r ceiling cats and i can keel u [10:21] but really, how much faster? [10:22] the less u got the faster it goes [10:23] ty [10:24] ur computer that bad? [10:27] i dont think so i just want the game i run to get the most attention [10:27] and hopefully this translates into better fps [10:30] i got go pee [10:49] What's the current IM client available by default on Raring? === damjanko is now known as Lucan7 === Lucan7 is now known as damjanko [10:50] amerigena, pidgin [10:50] OK. Thanks. I thought that I had read somewhere that it had changed. [10:51] Just another detail for the flyer knome. Thank you. [10:53] :) [10:54] knome : re this sentence - Ubuntu's circle of friends should be somewhere here - both due to relation to Ubuntu and contributing "circle of friends" idea [10:54] - what exactly do you mean by this? Is this text, or a graphic? [10:54] a graphic [10:54] OK. [10:55] also, feel free to take this discussion to -devel [10:55] you'll get better answers there :) [10:55] or not better... but quicker [11:06] Hello there :) === UrZA is now known as Guest89870 [11:43] Hello there :), Someone can help me to configure x11vnc (I want to improve the screen quality) [12:16] my xubuntu session crashes after a couple if seconds after logging in... what would I do now? [12:17] bock: check ~/.xsession-errors [12:18] xfce4-volumed-CRITICAL [12:19] ? [12:19] seems like my pulseaudio is causing this [12:19] but strangely, some programs are auto-starting although I NEVER ticked "save session" [12:20] bock: you can check ~/.cache/sessions, if there are old sessions saved [12:21] "Log off" now doesn't show "save session" now [12:21] there are a lot of .state files [12:23] seem like moving them away solved my problem [12:23] thanks a lot [12:23] bock: maybe you can check settings manager -> session and startup, there you can see the autostart applications and you can delete old sessions [12:23] okay :) [12:23] I did use xfce with gentoo and never had this issue -.- [12:24] that's why I was lost at this stage :) [12:26] got bitcoin by any chance? [12:27] (for a small donation) [12:29] those direct log out and such actions actually save session, in the logout dialog you can select not to [12:29] bock: nope, dont like bitcoin [14:33] Hi, how can I enable Java in Firefox? I only know about JRE. [14:36] jacklk: install the icedtea-plugin package, if it is missing [14:37] and check that it's enabled in firefox settings [14:39] brainwash: not seen that before, thanks :D [14:54] in the end Google Drive folder upload doesn't even work on Linux unless you install Chrome [14:55] gogle drive folder? what is that? [14:56] you can upload folders to Google Drive instead of just files [14:57] oh, so its some sort of modern rapidshare and megaupload [14:57] but you have to install Chrome to be able to use it as the applet that for some reason needs to be installed and it doesn't work on Ubuntu [14:57] MrElg: no, it's more of a backup service not file sharing [14:58] strange, i believed that google tried to coop with linux nowdays, after the android thingy [15:01] haha, android kernel had to be forked from mainline because google made so uncompatible changes === ponbiki is now known as Guest96930 [16:18] is there any way to make commands issued through 'sudo' automatically inherit the aliases of the user typing the command ? [16:35] hi, seems like my session restore is fubar, got a session that when it boots I get none of the window controls like a title bar and sizing border, in another session they are fine. so is there a way to delete saved sessions? [16:52] recon_lap: take a look at ~/.cache/sessions [16:53] koegs: thx, will do. [17:01] thx, deleted all the files in there and the rouge session is gone :) [17:02] the rogue one too, I hope [17:07] anyone able to paste me a default copy of a mySQL 5.5 /etc/my.cnf file? I seem to have lost mine? [17:16] never mind. dont think it matters. the problem appears to lie elsewhere [17:26] right , looks like it was the /etc/mysql/my.cnf that got overwritten [18:14] hi [18:21] a small problem with xubuntu: It is impossible to log in without a mouse if the last user had no password and the desired user requires one (the tab key does not jump from user list to password field). [18:24] th3pr0ph3t: you mean, with the greeter? [18:24] yes [18:25] i probably personally wouldnt think i would need x if i didnt have a mouse.. i would probably try other greeters and see if one works as you need "out of the box" [18:25] otherwise, that might be arguably a bug.. maybe more like a wishlist thing that would be challenging to get "fixed" [18:25] I believe usability issues must be taken in consideration (not that I need it fixed right now) [18:28] th3pr0ph3t: sure.. im just stating what is realistic, and i dont know that folks upstream will consider that "broken" or not.. though, filling a bug is a great place to start [18:29] where's do I report that, holstein ? launchpad? [18:29] !bug [18:29] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [18:31] !bug | juanxu [18:31] juanxu: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [18:31] ^^ thats where i would start, though, i would look also upstream at the greeter [18:32] er... I'm sorry I just tried again and it turns out that you can log in if you press enter instead of space to choose a user. So there's no bug and no accessibility problem :$ [18:32] juanxu: enjoy!.. [18:32] in other words, nevermind ^^ === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [19:58] how can i install without a cd drive? [19:58] !install | goddard [19:58] goddard: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [19:59] is that last link telling me how to do it from a windows machine haha [20:00] i dont own a windows machine and the drive is blank [20:00] i have an ubuntu machine though [20:01] can i boot from my laptops hard drive haha [20:01] or cd drive [20:01] goddard, you can create a bootable usb disk from ubuntu [20:05] You could also turn your existing box temporarily into a pxe server and do it that way [20:16] genii: i think i am gonna need to do the PXE thing is it hard? [20:19] goddard: do you have a USB stick? if so, i would just use unetbootin [20:19] !pxe [20:22] goddard: It's not as simple as making a USB to boot from, and then you need to revert the changes you made to the host box after. I used to use this a guide: https://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install [20:22] Apologies on lag, work is pretty busy === ponbiki is now known as Guest58687 [21:39] Hi! I'm using compiz with metacity on xubuntu 13.04. When a window opens maximized, I can't click on the title bar. When I click on it, it's like clicking on whatever is below it. I can work around it by unmaximizing or minimizing the window, then when I maximize it again it works correctly. This happens when I use a metacity theme. If I leave the default decorations, it works correctly. Any ideas? Thanks! [21:39] santiagoward2000: can you just not use compiz? [21:41] well, yes, i could, but i wanted to use it [21:43] santiagoward2000: i would say, if you can just not use it, that will be the mest.. its not really supported in xubuntu, and the changes to it are made for unity.. and i would expect "issues" often [21:43] best* [21:44] oh... ok === hispeed is now known as secret_ninja [23:45] ehllo. [23:45] anybody here? [23:45] No [23:46] aight..;) [23:47] i have a 13.04 question.. i have chosen at some point to 'save desktop' or something, during system restart.. [23:47] gets a little wierd.. i have narrowed down a term session that starts up, when i shut down that term session, x restarts immediately. [23:47] or, ldm, or xfce.. i go back to a login screen [23:48] wierd, right? [23:56] why can i use netflix [23:56] cant [23:57] please help [23:57] !netflix | xubuntu922 [23:57] xubuntu922: If you use Netflix, there is an unofficial solution for using it in Ubuntu detailed in http://www.compholio.com/netflix-desktop/ - bug reports in https://bugs.launchpad.net/netflix-desktop [23:58] why i cant use netflix on the ubuntu 13.04 [23:59] Please see the links from the bot...