[00:05] <alberto> hola
[04:20] <mmn_> hi!
[04:21] <mmn_> Hi!
[04:23] <mmn_> Hey, is there anyone alive around here?!
[04:24] <Shubuntu> hey guys, how do i use netcat to reverse dns look up?
[04:29] <mmn_> Shubuntu look here http://dcssrv1.oit.uci.edu/~franklin/doc/netcat.html
[04:30] <mmn_> hope it will help
[04:30] <Shubuntu> mmn_: thanks
[04:32] <Shubuntu> that link didn't have any details though, just said that it's possible
[04:32] <mmn_> hmm
[04:32] <mmn_> and why only netcat?
[04:33] <Shubuntu> cause it's a commandline toolkit
[04:34] <mmn_> need to use it in some scripts?
[04:34] <Shubuntu> yes
[04:37] <mmn_> and why not nslookup?
[04:38] <mmn_> hi, boss
[04:40] <mmn_> interesting,,,
[04:40] <mmn_> 200+ users on channel
[04:41] <mmn_> and everyone is silent
[04:41] <mmn_> Shubuntu, what version of Kubuntu do you have?
[04:42] <Shubuntu> mmn_: 13.04
[04:42] <mmn_> I'm having big trouble with installing nvidia driver
[04:59] <valorie> mmn_: this is a help channel, not a chat chan
[04:59] <valorie> if you have a question ask it, and perhaps people can help
[05:04] <mmn_> ok
[05:05] <mmn_> I have a 13.04 on Laptop ASUS K53S
[05:05] <mmn_> video is nvidia GeForce GT 630M
[05:06] <mmn_> I tried different drivers - both Proprietary and Open
[05:07] <mmn_> But some of the desktop effects still don't work, and system is extremly slow
[05:07] <mmn_> That means, that drivers doesn't work, as far as i understand
[05:09] <skreech__> mmn_: You have a question?
[05:09] <skreech__> Whoops page down :)
[05:09] <skreech__> Oh wait youstill haven't asked yet
[05:09] <mmn_> It's a preface
[05:10] <skreech__> Yes I see :)
[05:10] <mmn_> the question is that I can't install the driver correctly
[05:10] <mmn_> When using console installer I recieve error messages
[05:10] <skreech__> can you pastebin
[05:10] <mmn_> smthg about the cc compiler version
[05:11] <mmn_> and that kernel model compilation failed
[05:11] <mmn_> it was from a pseudographic installer
[05:12] <mmn_> which runs in console mode w/o X server
[05:12] <skreech__> What kernel do you have?
[05:13] <mmn_> the last one - 3.9.0-030900rc6-generic
[05:13] <mmn_> also, i checked Xorg log
[05:13] <mmn_> and found:
[05:14] <mmn_> mmn@mmn-K53SM:~$ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[05:14] <mmn_>         (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[05:14] <mmn_> [    23.025] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[05:14] <mmn_> [    25.784] (EE) Failed to load module "intel" (module does not exist, 0)
[05:14] <mmn_> [    25.932] (EE) Failed to load module "nouveau" (module does not exist, 0)
[05:14] <FloodBotK1> mmn_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:14] <mmn_> [    26.034] (EE) Failed to load module "intel" (module does not exist, 0)
[05:16] <valorie> !pastebin | mmn_
[05:16] <mmn_> valorie thx
[05:17] <mmn_> btw this orange lines in Quassel IRC are private messages, right?
[05:17] <mmn_> How can I send them?
[05:17] <valorie> I use Konversation, so dunno
[05:17] <skreech__> mmn_: depends. Is this orange?
[05:18] <mmn_> Skreech yes it is
[05:18] <skreech__> mmn_: It's just highlighting that someone said your name
[05:18] <mmn_> ah ok
[05:18] <mmn_> anyway
[05:20] <mmn_> i also tried installing drivers with "Programs and updates
[05:20] <mmn_>  -> additional drivers tab
[05:20] <mmn_> and with apt-get
[05:20] <mmn_> but still no destop effects :(
[05:22] <mmn_> some of them work however, the most beautiful like cube with desktops, and waving of windows when you move them do not
[05:23] <mmn_> when I try to turn them on, i recieve a message that openGL is required
[05:24] <mmn_> Lol, only now I realise how poor my English actually is
[05:29] <mmn_> Any bright ideas, guys?
[05:29] <mmn_> If you need some logs or configs i'll gladly use a pastebin )
[05:30] <valorie> skreech__: is much more technically knowledgeable than I am
[05:31] <valorie> !opengl
[05:31] <valorie> !info opengl
[05:31] <valorie> piffle
[05:31] <skreech__> lol :)
[05:33] <skreech__> mmn_: alright what's the error you are getting?
[05:34] <mmn_> when installing from console?
[05:34] <mmn_> several ))
[05:35] <mmn_> at first it says that it seems there is no device supported by this driver
[05:35] <mmn_> however, install continues
[05:36] <mmn_> than it says that another nvidia driver installation is found
[05:37] <mmn_> tries do delete it and also generates some error like "file not found"
[05:37] <mmn_> btw i rememvered now
[05:37] <mmn_> the installer said that there must be a log file
[05:37] <mmn_> i dont  remember the name exactly
[05:38] <mmn_> but i'll take a look thro my /var/log
[05:38] <mmn_> 1 moment plz
[05:38] <greygan> I am having a problem. I just installed Kubuntu 13.04 and my apps do not see my drives. Only the home folder unless I go in and mount them manually. Any suggestions?
[05:38] <mmn_> greygan how your /etc/fstab looks?
[05:39] <greygan> has a single line... sec
[05:39] <mmn_> add all the partitions you need
[05:40] <mmn_> a tutorial is easy to google
[05:40] <greygan> K thanks
[05:41] <greygan> (My first time in KDE... Gnome didnt have this issue)
[05:42] <valorie> greygan: if it makes you feel any better, I've never heard of anyone having this trouble
[05:44] <greygan> valorie: it is weird. Thy all show up in Dolphin, it is just the apps that cant see them untill I mount from term or select them in dolphin
[05:45] <mmn_> http://paste.kde.org/755444/
[05:45] <valorie> that's extremely odd
[05:45] <mmn_> I had same problem with my NTFS disk
[05:45] <mmn_> It was always open in Dolphin
[05:46] <mmn_> And every time system loaded, i had a message that it's unreachable
[05:46] <mmn_> fstab saved me :)
[05:47] <greygan> well it is high time I learn how to edit fstab... so here goes :)
[05:47] <mmn_> anyone is lookin through my log already?
[05:47] <greygan> I looked at it long enough to see you are loading an Nvidia driver... That is what broke my Gnome install and got me here... LOL
[05:49] <greygan> I should say my Ringtail install. The nvidia driver broke it to the point I could only run in Gnome Fallback
[05:50] <skreech__> !fstab
[05:51] <skreech__> !info gcc
[05:51] <skreech__> valorie: can't apt-get install an older version from the repos?
[05:52] <skreech__> apt-get install gcc=4.6 or so?
[05:53] <skreech__> mmn_: so if you press ctrl+F9 nothing happens?
[05:54] <mmn_> btw after the driver installation my notebook loaded with 640*480 res
[05:54] <mmn_> Had to rm xorg.comf
[05:55] <mmn_> skreech__ it makes all the windows visible at one time
[05:55] <skreech__> Is ti slow?
[05:55] <skreech__> it
[05:55] <mmn_> they become smaller and ...
[05:55] <mmn_> No
[05:55] <mmn_> fast enough
[05:56] <skreech__> What do you see when You alt tab. Do you get small previews of the window?
[05:57] <mmn_> skreech_ yes, but they supposed to switch like a carousel
[05:57] <mmn_> and they don
[05:58] <mmn_> just rectangles on a flat surface
[06:00] <Unit193> !info gcc-4.6 | skreech__
[06:01] <mmn_> btw, while we are chatting here. I tried to install same version with apt-get
[06:02] <mmn_> now i see a message, that driver is installed but not activated
[06:02] <mmn_> in a util... Don't now how it's called in English
[06:02] <skreech__> mmn_: A carousel?
[06:02] <mmn_> I can make a screenshot one moment
[06:02] <skreech__> what setting do you have for window switching ?
[06:03] <mmn_> carousel AFAIR
[06:03] <skreech__> Unit193: Thanks :)
[06:03] <Unit193> Sure.
[06:05] <greygan> 1 more quick question... Has the command kdesu been removed in 13.04 or is that a system problem I am having?
[06:05] <mmn_> oops, no carousel
[06:06] <greygan> as in " kdesu kate /etc/fstab "
[06:06] <mmn_> I tried to set carousel, but it turned of automaticly
[06:06] <mmn_> because of none-workin openGL
[06:07] <mmn_> greygan I get kdesu - command not found
[06:07] <valorie> kdesudo
[06:07] <valorie> use that instead
[06:07] <greygan> mmn: OK, I feel better. Thats what I get.
[06:08] <greygan> OK cool thanks
[06:13] <mmn_> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/849/driversp.png/
[06:13] <mmn_> this is what I see regarding the drivers
[06:14] <skreech__> !kdesu
[06:14] <mmn_> caption of this window is translated as "Device drivers"
[06:15] <mmn_> And the text near a green dot at the bottom - this driver is activated, but not used now
[06:15] <skreech__> mmn_: Might have to reboot?
[06:15] <mmn_> the question is  - how to make the system use it
[06:16] <skreech__> I remember something about that with the nvidia installer
[06:16] <skreech__> course that was years ago when I had nvidia
[06:16] <mmn_> I'll try, but previous times it did not helps
[06:16] <mmn_> ok, ill reboot anyway, brb
[06:16] <kkerwin> Hi. Anyone familiar with a portable form of disk encryption that would be installable on a flash drive, and runnable on Windows/Mac/*nix systems without admin priveledges?
[06:21] <mmn_> I'm bavk
[06:21] <mmn_> back
[06:22] <mmn_> same s**t after reboot
[06:22] <kkerwin> mmn_: Good to meet you, bavk.
[06:22] <mmn_> driver is activated, but not used
[06:22] <mmn_> kkerwin hi
[06:22] <mmn_> what's bavk?
[06:22] <kkerwin> :-P
[06:22] <valorie> mmn_: do you have kde-jockey?
[06:22] <mmn_> Hmm I'll check 1 moment
[06:23] <valorie> I've not used that for awhile, but it does still work for messing with drivers
[06:23] <valorie> if not, might be worth installing
[06:24] <mmn_> simply by apt-get?
[06:24] <valorie> yes, that will work
[06:24] <mmn_> ok
[06:26] <ahoneybun> valorie: jockey is installed by default
[06:26] <valorie> cool
[06:27] <mmn_> Yes it is, I sent a screenshot of it 5 minutes ago
[06:27] <mmn_> but I don't see any possibility to make this driver be used
[06:27] <ahoneybun> you can just use kickoff and search jockey
[06:28] <mmn_> Maybe now it's time to configure xorg
[06:28] <valorie> or alt+f2 'jockey'
[06:28] <ahoneybun> yea
[06:28] <valorie> first
[06:28] <valorie> can't hurt, might help
[06:28] <mmn_> ahoneybun : i'm using it right now
[06:28] <ahoneybun> I have krunner set to ctrl space
[06:32] <mmn_> so how can this jockey help me?
[06:33] <mmn_> I see a list of drivers in it
[06:33] <mmn_> I see that one driver is currently installed
[06:33] <mmn_> and the others are not %) LOL
[06:35] <greygan> OK, I edited my fstab abd still have the same problem. Did I do something wrong?  http://paste.kde.org/755450/
[06:37] <mmn_> greygan: Yes you did
[06:37] <mmn_> U R trying 2 mount all your partitions to /
[06:38] <greygan> so I need to create seperate mount folders / points?
[06:38] <mmn_> and there may be only one partition at one mounting point
[06:38] <greygan> i c
[06:38] <mmn_> exactly!
[06:38] <greygan> thanks again... ima neewb
[06:38] <mmn_> Lol me to
[06:38] <mmn_>  ))
[06:38] <mmn_> gl
[06:38] <greygan> u2
[06:39] <mmn_> hmm looks like every one is afk
[06:39] <mmn_> ore they just don't wanna mess up with my video
[06:40] <mmn_> Guuuaaays, I neeed yeeer heeelp
[06:40] <mmn_> Somebody... Anybody?!
[06:43] <rosco_y> Can anyone tell me how to install twiki?
[06:46] <valorie> rosco_y: is there a twiki package?
[06:46] <valorie> !info twiki
[06:46] <valorie> huh
[06:46] <valorie> then you may have to find a .deb
[06:47] <mmn_> hmm if no one knows about video
[06:47] <mmn_> one simle questions
[06:48] <mmn_> how can i make links open in firefox by default
[06:48] <mmn_> cos now they are opened in rekonq
[06:48] <mmn_> and i use it to browse tor
[06:48] <mmn_> so it's slow
[06:49] <rosco_y> valorie: ty.  I tried aptitude, didn't find anything in there.....
[06:50] <tsimpson> mmn_: System Settings -> Default Applications -> Web Browser
[06:50] <mmn_> Oh that easy
[06:50] <mmn_> thx a lot
[06:50] <valorie> rosco_y: you can look on twiki.org and see if they have .deb files
[06:50] <rosco_y> valorie: I think you're right about the deb.....
[06:51] <rosco_y> :) I'll do that, thank you....
[06:54] <mmn_> http://paste.kde.org/755462/
[06:55] <mmn_> here are the errors of Xorg.0.log
[06:56] <greygan> I think I have the fstab file correct now, as my computer is tryng to index ALL my drives... LOL that index is going to be HUGE!
[06:57] <valorie> mmn_: googling on one of your errors got me the hint to install and run 'nvidia-xconfig' which I recall has helped me in the past
[06:58] <mmn_> hmm nvidia-xconfig alreadyplayed a bad joke with me
[06:59] <mmn_> after using it and rebooting i had my monitor resolution set to 640*480
[06:59] <valorie> damn
[06:59] <mmn_> with no ability to change it
[06:59] <mmn_> so i just rm xorg.conf
[06:59] <mmn_> and now enjoying a normal resolution
[07:01] <valorie> cool
[07:01] <mmn_> hm i think i'll try to find good xorg conf tutorial in my native Russian language
[07:01] <greygan> Is it just indexing because I put my mount points in my home directory? Should they be elsewhere?
[07:01] <mmn_> greygan: you can mount them everywhere
[07:02] <mmn_> I don't have indexing turned on
[07:02] <mmn_> by default, NTFS partitions are mounted in /MEDIA
[07:03] <greygan> I should just turn it off as well. There is about 3 terabytes of data trying to be indexed now.
[07:03] <mmn_> 3 terras
[07:03] <mmn_> wow
[07:03] <greygan> mostly video
[07:03] <mmn_> what are you collecting?
[07:03] <mmn_> Child porn? %)
[07:03] <greygan> tv shows and movies mostly
[07:04] <greygan> lol
[07:04] <mmn_> joking, joking
[07:04] <valorie> not appropriate for this channel, ever
[07:11] <greygan> OK, this is crazy. Now that I have fstab configured to mount the drives, the app that could not see the unmounted drives will not launch...
[07:14] <valorie> greygan: start it from the console
[07:14] <valorie> and see what errors are thrown
[07:14] <greygan> k, sec
[07:15] <greygan> [ERROR   ] 02:15:07 ipcinterface:156 Deluge restart failed: Couldn't listen on any:/home/greygan/.config/deluge/ipc/deluge-gtk: Cannot acquire lock.
[07:15] <valorie> wow, I would google that
[07:15] <valorie> have not seen the like
[07:16] <valorie> I've never heard of any of the difficulties you are encountering
[07:16] <valorie> most strange
[07:16] <greygan> it worked before I mounted the drives. can it be because I mounted them in a new folder in the home directory?
[07:19] <valorie> haven't a clue about that, tbh
[07:25] <greygan> what is the command to delete a file from terminal?
[07:26] <valorie> rm filename
[07:27] <greygan> ty
[07:27]  * valorie reboots
[07:30] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:32] <mmn_> lordeivader hi!
[07:32] <lordievader> Hey mmn_, how are you?
[07:39] <greygan> OK, I have to mount the drives in /media. How can I make the mount point folders there. Dolphin wont let me, and in terminal the mkdir command brings up a new line >
[07:40] <mmn_> maybe sudo mkdir ?
[07:40] <greygan> does the same thing with the new line >
[07:40] <mmn_> Lordievader: bad
[07:41] <mmn_> i can't install xorg-edit
[07:41] <greygan> well kdesudo does anyway. havent tried just sudo
[07:42] <lordievader> greygan: What are the permissions on the mount?
[07:42] <lordievader> mmn_: Have you tried apt?
[07:43] <mmn_> they just don't exist
[07:43] <mmn_> only deb
[07:43] <mmn_> and it doesn;t work
[07:43] <mmn_> it can't satisfy the dependencies
[07:43] <lordievader> mmn_: Ok, so you have deb, does "sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>" work?
[07:44] <greygan> I set the mounts up in fstab but created mount points in my home directory. I need them in /media and I can not create a folder there for the mount points
[07:44] <mmn_> one moment I;ll paste you the output
[07:46] <lordievader> greygan: That is probably true, a user has no write access to /media. Using "sudo mkdir <target>" should work, you can verify with "ls /media".
[07:46] <greygan> cool thanks
[07:48] <mmn_> hmm
[07:48] <mmn_> now my question is
[07:48] <greygan> I get the same thing when trying sudo mkdir. It just drops to a new line with the ">" sign
[07:48] <mmn_> how to install older version of a package
[07:48] <mmn_> than i have now
[07:48] <lordievader> greygan: mkdir doesn't output anything if there is no error.
[07:49] <mmn_> libwxgtk 2.8
[07:49] <greygan> but there is no new folder and instead of dropping me to a normal prompt I get >
[07:50] <mmn_> but i need a 2.6 version to install xorg-edit
[07:50] <greygan> i used command "sudo mkdir /media/newfoldername
[07:50] <lordievader> greygan: Hmm, that's odd. Could you pastebin that?
[07:50] <tsimpson> greygan: you should remove the first quote
[07:50] <greygan> I didnt use quote. sec Ill paste
[07:50] <lordievader> mmn_: I would do that through muon.
[07:51] <mmn_> how?
[07:51] <greygan> http://paste.kde.org/755474/
[07:52] <lordievader> mmn_: What version of the lib do you need?
[07:52] <mmn_> 2.6
[07:52] <tsimpson> greygan: you used a single-quote
[07:53] <lordievader> greygan: You need to escape the ', so "sudo mkdir Donna\'s"
[07:53] <tsimpson> you need to either escape it `sudo mkdir /media/Donna\'s` or quote it `sudo mkdir "/media/Donna's"`
[07:53] <lordievader> Euhmm ^ that.
[07:53] <greygan> ah
[07:53] <lordievader> !info libwxgtk2.6
[07:53] <lordievader> !info libwxgtk
[07:54] <lordievader> !info libwxgtk*
[07:54] <lordievader> In raring only 2.8 exists it seems.
[07:54] <mmn_> that sux
[07:55] <mmn_> I can't write xorg.conf by hands
[07:55] <mmn_> it's simply impossible
[07:55] <mmn_> and when i try2use Xorg -configure
[07:55] <mmn_> it gives me error
[07:55] <greygan> AWESOME guys thank you!
[07:56] <mmn_> and, by the way, there's still no nvidia in it;s drivers list
[07:57] <lordievader> mmn_: You are talking about this right: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156243
[07:57] <lordievader> mmn_: You know it is a post from 2006, and probably not updated since?
[07:58] <mmn_> oops didn't notice it
[07:58] <mmn_> but anyway
[07:58] <lordievader> Ah nvm that. Last update is 2008.
[07:59] <mmn_> there must be a gui generator
[07:59] <lordievader> mmn_: Do you have version 08.08.06?
[07:59] <mmn_> however
[07:59] <lordievader> Err 07.08.11
[07:59] <mmn_> yes
[07:59] <mmn_> 07.08.11
[08:00] <lordievader> Hmm perhaps the source of 08.08.06 doesn't require libwxgtk2.6.
[08:00] <mmn_> anyway theres no nvidia driver in the list of Xorg -configure
[08:02] <lordievader> What do you mean with Xorg -configure?
[08:02] <lordievader> Btw nowadays xorg.conf is not used by default.
[08:09] <mmn_> hm ok, but how do i make my driver work without it?
[08:10] <lordievader> mmn_: What driver and what card are we talking about here?
[08:10] <mmn_> GeForce GT 630M
[08:10] <mmn_> (in my laptop)
[08:11] <mmn_> and it also has a built-in-CPU intel graphics card
[08:11] <mmn_> however a workin geforce will be more than enough for me
[08:12] <lordievader> Ugh, bumblebee (or however it is called). Most unfortunately I have no experience with such a setup, I know it is a hassle to get it working.
[08:12] <lordievader> mmn_: What does the jockey say?
[08:13] <mmn_> it says "This driver is activated, but not used now"
[08:13] <mmn_> not sure about "activated"
[08:13] <lordievader> mmn_: Is that the recommended driver?
[08:13] <mmn_> cos i have russian version
[08:13] <mmn_> It's the last one
[08:13] <mmn_> 319
[08:14] <mmn_> AFAIR thats the same version that is donlpoaded from nvidia com
[08:14] <mmn_> when i seltcted my video and OS in the lis
[08:15] <lordievader> You would say the folks at nVidia know what driver to use...
[08:15] <greygan> Thanks again to all who helped me. I finally got all of this working correctly and learned how to edit fstab in the process :)
[08:15] <mmn_> i thought - yes
[08:15] <mmn_> to optimistic?
[08:16] <mmn_> *to
[08:16] <mmn_> to
[08:16] <mmn_> too
[08:16] <FloodBotK1> mmn_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:16] <mmn_> oops
[08:17] <lordievader> mmn_: You could go experiment with the other drivers, you might just end up with a working geforce ;)
[08:17] <mmn_> i did already
[08:17] <lordievader> Though I have to say it is not risk free.
[08:18] <lordievader> Its an optimus thing right?
[08:19] <lordievader> If so take a look at this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[08:28] <mmn_> apt-get told me, that bumblebee is already installed
[08:29] <lordievader> mmn_: And the rest?
[08:29] <mmn_> u mean the other packages?
[08:29] <mmn_> Already
[08:30] <mmn_> virtualgl linux-headers-generic
[08:30] <mmn_> already installed too
[09:57] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[09:58] <BigWig_> Hey, my widget dashboard isn't transparent anymore. Anyone know of a fix?
[10:01] <BluesKaj> BigWig_, system settings>workspace appearance>desktop themes , get new themes , find one that you like
[10:07] <BigWig_> That didn't fix the problem. What's happening is that the dashboard (ctr+f12) isn't translucent anymore.
[10:13] <BluesKaj> oh sorry I misunderstood , never used the dashnoard before , just the panel options
[10:14] <BluesKaj> tool  box
[13:01] <gilles> Hello every body, I need help
[13:02] <JohnThePreacher> Repent now! For The Kingdom of Heaven is at HAND!
[13:02] <BluesKaj> JohnThePreacher, when do the spaceships arrive , and where ?
[13:03] <BluesKaj> gilles, ask your question
[13:03] <JohnThePreacher> BluesKaj, And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
[13:05] <gilles> ok, I have a problem with grub : I have update the kernel with the 3.8.0-23 version and after the reboot only old kernel appear in the grub menu. Exemple 3.2.0-24
[13:05] <gilles> I look in the /boot/grub.cfg file and the 3.8.0-23 is present
[13:05] <gilles> What appends ?
[13:05] <BluesKaj> gilles, how did you update the kernel ?
[13:06] <BluesKaj> gilles, run sudo update-grub
[13:06] <gilles> with the package manager
[13:07] <gilles> I do update-grub a lot of time
[13:07] <gilles> and it find the new kernel
[13:09] <BluesKaj> 3.2 to 3.8 is quite a jump
[13:10] <gilles> it's because I update from 12.04 to 13.04
[13:15] <BluesKaj> gilles, how did you update ?
[13:16] <BluesKaj> 12.04>12.10>13.04 ?
[13:16] <gilles> I did an upgrade
[13:16] <gilles> yes BluesKay
[13:16] <BluesKaj> ok upgrade , sorry
[13:18] <gilles> It's possible the problem was present for a long time because when the computer start I don't read exactly the kernel number
[13:19] <BluesKaj> gilles, ok run sudo apt-get update:sudo apt-get distupgrade , then ,  sudo apt-get autoremove , then sudo apt-get autoclean
[13:19] <gilles> ok
[13:19] <BluesKaj> err dist-upgrade
[13:22] <BluesKaj> gilles, correction , sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:24] <gilles> yes because the first commande return an error
[13:24] <gilles> it's ok
[13:25] <gilles> what must I do now
[13:26] <BluesKaj> run the other autoremove and autoclean commands
[13:28] <gilles> done
[13:29] <BluesKaj> ok  gilles now try sudo update-grub
[13:30] <gilles> I have a kernel within
[13:30] <gilles> and a kernel more
[13:34] <gilles> could I reboot to see if there changes
[13:34] <BluesKaj> yes
[13:35] <GolligySutton> Yay! I'm a Xubuntu user NOW!
[13:35] <BluesKaj> I have to check my other OSs ...bbiab
[13:41] <gilles> I'm back BluesKaj, but there's no changes !
[13:42] <gilles> Is there a command to find the menu.cfg use by grub to boot ?
[14:09] <BluesKaj> gilles, is your new kernel available in grub now ?
[14:10] <gilles> unfortunately not, have you any idea
[14:10] <BluesKaj> can you see it ?
[14:19] <gilles> BluesKaj I find what's wrong. Grub load an old grub.cfg of an partition where is installed kubuntu 10.04
[14:19] <gilles> How can I setup grub to my new grub.cfg
[14:22] <BluesKaj> gilles, is your 13.04 on the first partition ?
[14:23] <gilles> it's complicated
[14:24] <gilles> I have 5 disk with 1 up to 5 partitions
[14:25] <BluesKaj> grub should be installed to the mbr of the front of the HDD , usually /dev/sda
[14:34] <BluesKaj> gilles, if your 13.04 is not located on on /dev/sda , then sudo grub-install /dev/sda should work
[14:50] <gilles> BluesKaj It's work   thanks a lot for your help
[16:00] <scherenhaenden> hello ppl...
[16:00] <lordievader> Hey scherenhaenden
[16:00] <scherenhaenden> i need help, im trying to get video on my computer after upgrading... but nothing, but it works good in live system....
[16:01] <scherenhaenden> but how ever i do... it does not works on my realsystem
[16:02] <lordievader> scherenhaenden: What video card do you have?
[16:02] <scherenhaenden> ati hd 4200
[16:03] <scherenhaenden> i know if i restard, i got no video... with lshw -c video it says that my display s being unclaimed
[16:03] <lordievader> Have you installed the closed source driver for it?
[16:03] <scherenhaenden> ive tried to installed anything... the closed, the open... but nothing
[16:04] <scherenhaenden> even... 13.04 has that configuration system for monitors in systemsettings... but i dont have it
[16:04] <scherenhaenden> i get always error
[16:05] <lordievader> What error?
[16:05] <scherenhaenden> by last time using sudo ./amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-legacy-linux-x86.x86_64.run --buildandinstallpkg Ubuntu/raring --force
[16:05] <scherenhaenden> i got Error 2....
[16:05] <scherenhaenden> :S i cannot copy from console :S
[16:06] <lordievader> scherenhaenden: Have you tried the jockey?
[16:06] <scherenhaenden> well yes... but a long time ago i didnt
[16:07] <scherenhaenden> well
[16:07] <lordievader> You probable have a choice between fglrx and fglrx-updates. I'd say try fglrx-updates first.
[16:07] <lordievader> probably*
[16:07] <scherenhaenden> yep
[16:08] <scherenhaenden> but ive tried to install em a looooot of times
[16:08] <scherenhaenden> got nothing from jockey
[16:08] <scherenhaenden> even not the other drivers
[16:09] <scherenhaenden> i dont know what i got to do
[16:12] <scherenhaenden> it looks like it works with aptitude
[16:12] <lordievader> Is your card supported by the fglxr driver? (I mean the version you've downloaded from the ati website)
[16:13] <scherenhaenden> well officially yes... but not that kernel... but it could be working good with the driver from linux... but it also doesnt work
[16:14] <scherenhaenden> well... it works in live version but here... im not capable to install it
[16:15] <scherenhaenden> im gonna autosuicide to myself
[16:16] <scherenhaenden> it till says unclaimed
[16:19] <scherenhaenden> lordievader: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/fglrx_2%3a12.100~beta7-0ubuntu1~xedgers~raring1_amd64.deb: Unterprozess neues pre-installation-Skript gab den Fehlerwert 1 zurück
[16:21] <lordievader> You know xorg edgers is bleeding edge right?
[16:21] <scherenhaenden> what? i dont understand about what r u speaking sorry
[16:21] <scherenhaenden> what kind of edgers?
[16:21] <scherenhaenden> edgers ppa?
[16:21] <lordievader> scherenhaenden: It seems to me that you added the xorg edgers ppa.
[16:22] <scherenhaenden> ive added some ppa
[16:22] <scherenhaenden> but from amd i think
[16:22] <scherenhaenden> im trying to resolve here since manyhours ago
[16:22] <scherenhaenden> well since yesterday
[16:23] <lordievader> I'd recommend removing this xorg-edgers ppa.
[16:24] <scherenhaenden> how can i do that?
[16:25] <scherenhaenden> nop
[16:25] <scherenhaenden> i dont have ppa from xorg
[16:27] <lordievader> Hmm, unfortunately I have to say that I do not know how to proceed. Sorry.
[16:28] <scherenhaenden> fgl_glxgears works
[16:28] <scherenhaenden> :S
[16:28] <scherenhaenden> is that normal?
[16:29] <lordievader> scherenhaenden: Yes, the cpu might even render that.
[16:29] <scherenhaenden> mm, oh man i dont know what to do
[16:30] <lordievader> Wait a minute, do you mean fglrx_glxgear?
[16:30] <scherenhaenden> yep
[16:30] <lordievader> Ok, do you have amdcccle on your pc, and does it not give you an error when you fire it up?
[16:31] <scherenhaenden> lordievader: ive tried to installed but nothing
[16:34] <scherenhaenden> everywhere says i got to deinstall doing sudo sh /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh
[16:34] <scherenhaenden> but i got error for that
[16:34] <lordievader> scherenhaenden: What error?
[16:34] <scherenhaenden> im trying to copy him over here
[16:53] <scherenhaenden> lordievader: IT LOOKS LIKE I DID IT
[16:53] <scherenhaenden> but ive fear about reboot
[16:54] <lordievader> What did you do?
[17:01] <scherenhaenden> dont know... im on the graphics but till not work
[17:01] <scherenhaenden> know id like to remove the flgrx n try to install that xorg driv
[17:02] <scherenhaenden> do u know how to install the default driver ?
[17:35] <puff> Heya... I was on kubuntu on 12. L04TÃSÃ.  I just intalled 13ubuntu 13.4 and the installed kubuntu-desktop, ld in with theDE PlasmaÃa manager... this is very different from my old kubuntu desktop.  Did things change or is there something I need to install/set to make it more like my old UI?
[17:36] <puff> For example, I'm pretty sure I was using a different terminal app, which is pretty important for me because I use a lot of shell and ssh,  vt100 emulation on remote boxes, etc.
[17:37] <ed356> hi, anyone know why after formating my usb flash drive (corsair 16gb) from fat32 to ntfs I got two partitions, one the ntfs partition, the other is "unallocated" which is 4mb in size, is this normal?
[17:38] <lordievader> ed356: I think so, seen it a number of times.
[17:39] <puff> Hm, I just noticed that under kde it's not auto-mounting my extra partition.
[17:39] <puff> Is there an easy/gui way to do it, or do I need to mount them manually?
[17:40] <lordievader> puff: You can mount partitions through 'dolphin', the file-manager.
[17:40] <puff> Hm, under dolphin the extra partition does show up, but not in "df -h" or "mount" output.
[17:41] <lordievader> puff: Is it mounted?
[17:41] <puff> Ah, it's mounted in /media/_mcgee
[17:41] <ed356> lordievader ok thanks
[17:41] <puff> Weird.
[17:41] <puff> Can I have my old kubuntu back? :-)
[17:42] <lordievader> For 12.04 there are still a couple of supported years left ;)
[17:43] <puff> lordievader: Yeah... I was told in the past that it is okay to just install mainstream ubuntu and then apt-get kubuntu-desktoip, is this still the case?
[17:44] <puff> In other words, 13.4 + kubuntu-desktop doesn't look like my old kubuntu UI, is that because kubuntu changed or because I didn't do it right?
[17:44] <lordievader> Raring is very stable, heck even Saucy is stable (though I do not recommend to install Saucy ;) )
[17:45] <puff> I'm not sure what terminal I was using previously, but ctrl-shift-t would open a new terminal tab, ctrl-pgup/pgdwn would cycle through the tabs...
[17:45] <lordievader> KDE 4.10 is a bit more flashy than KDE 4.8 (Not sure if Precise has 4.8, but it was something along those lines), is that what you mean?
[17:46] <lordievader> puff: Konsole still has those functions :)
[17:46] <puff> lordievader: Well, alt-tab does this fancy 3D carousel of screens, terminal doesn't seem to work the same, etc.
[17:46] <puff> I'm in konsole and ctrl-pgup and ctrl-pgdwn aren't cycling me through the tabs.
[17:47] <lordievader> puff: That sounds like a non-standard setup...
[17:47] <ahoneybun> lordievader: precise has 4.8 but 4.10 is in the backports
[17:47] <ahoneybun> 4.10.3 I believe
[17:47] <puff> lordievader:  It's just a 13.4 install plus apt-get kubuntu-destop
[17:48] <ahoneybun> puff: you can install any desktop you want on any ubutnu
[17:50] <puff> ahoneybun: Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out if this is easily fixable or not.
[17:50] <ahoneybun> puff: what happened?
[17:51] <lordievader> puff: Did you install with an existing /home?
[17:51] <puff> ahoneybun: I installed the normal ubuntu 13.4 raring, then did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and the UI is throwing me off.
[17:51] <puff> lordievader: Yes.
[17:51] <lordievader> I.e. did a kde profile exist before you installed raring over it.
[17:51] <ahoneybun> puff: can you provide screenshots?
[17:51] <puff> lordievader: Wait... I have a vanilal 13.4, and then did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.  I have my old /home mounted as a separate partition so I can get at my old data files.
[17:52] <puff> ahoneybun: Sure, what of?
[17:52] <ahoneybun> puff: just of the problems that you are seeing
[17:52] <puff> ahoneybun: It's more that certain keyboard shortcuts don't seem to work.
[17:52] <puff> I'm very, very keyboard driven...
[17:52] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[17:53] <ahoneybun> well you can change that
[17:53] <stardolphin> my music plays back at 50% higher speed appx. Don't know what triggered the change or how to fix in Kubuntu 13.04
[17:53] <puff> ahoneybun: E.g. in my terminal I'm used to ctrl-pageup/pagedown cycling through the terminal tabs.  I'm running console and contorl-shift-t opens a new tab, but ctrl-pageup/pagedown don't work.
[17:53] <lordievader> stardolphin: Does that happen when you open skype?
[17:54] <stardolphin> pandora, youtube basically any flash-driven program Chrome is up to date, not using skype (ick)
[17:54] <lordievader> stardolphin: Hmm, too bad. I had a similair problem once, everything would speed up if skype was opened.
[17:55] <stardolphin> all i can think of is k3b might have done something, only idea i have
[18:00] <stardolphin> thank you, lordievader. Will keep searching. Will consider full blown re-install if necessary.
[18:02] <ahoneybun> puff: you can edit keyboard shortcuts in the system settings
[18:05] <puff> ahoneybun: Yeah, I just wanted to start by making sure I'd done it right.
[18:06] <ahoneybun> puff: yea just install the kubuntu-desktop package
[18:06] <puff> ahoneybun: I did.
[18:06] <ahoneybun> ok good
[18:45] <tumor> xx
[18:50] <m0nk3yjoe> What is the command to disable a service?  I tried update-rc.d and it doesn't work for Bluetooth
[18:51] <m0nk3yjoe> I want to remove bluetooth and IPP
[18:52] <lordievader> m0nk3yjoe: update-rc.d is used to remove things from init. To stop a service you can use: sudo service <service-name> stop
[18:52] <m0nk3yjoe> lordievader, I know how to stop a service.  I want to REMOVE it from starting the first place
[18:53] <m0nk3yjoe> like chkconfig does on RHEl
[18:54] <tumor130> holas
[18:54] <lordievader> m0nk3yjoe: Ah, yes for that update-rc.d is indeed used, IIRC: sudo update-rc.d -f remove <service-name>
[18:58] <m0nk3yjoe> lordievader, I did sudo update-rc.d -r bluetooth remove and it says it removed them and then stopped the services.  Thanks! =)
[19:02] <m0nk3yjoe> lordievader, I thought with the move to upstart we didn't use rc.d scripts anymore.  Am I incorrect?
[19:03] <lordievader> m0nk3yjoe: That is something I do not know.
[19:32] <F41l> Quick question, I have kmail, and every time I try to open a link, it screams at me about missing rekonq (which I removed in favor of firefox) any idea how I can make it discontinue this annoyance?
[19:59] <jacklk> good evening
[19:59] <jacklk> Can someone help me with an issue?
[20:01] <jacklk> Anyone?
[20:07] <Snowhog> jacklk: Just state your question.
[20:10] <jacklk> Snowhog: Now?
[20:11] <F41l> Quick question, I have kmail, and every time I try to open a link, it screams at me about missing rekonq (which I removed in favor of firefox) any idea how I can make it discontinue this annoyance?
[20:13] <Snowhog> F41l: System Settings > File Associations > text > html and move (or remove) rekong from the Application Preference Order list and ensure that firefox is at the top.
[20:14] <jacklk> Snowhog: okay
[20:15] <jacklk> so bascially, what i need is
[20:56] <GEO48> hi, I have downloaded those files: http://sourceforge.net/projects/biblatex-biber/files/biblatex-biber/1.6/binaries/Linux/ after unpacking executing them does nothing
[20:56] <GEO48> could anybody download them and try to execute the files? I don't know where the problem could be
[20:57] <GEO48> ./biber --help should at least output sth.
[21:03] <GEO48> output of strace biber: http://pastebin.com/X0tC5ABz
[21:12] <seth> hi
[22:18] <greygan> Hey guys, After installing "additional drivers" for my graphics card. I am seeing some errors flash by at shutdown and boot up as well as my boot time has increased drasticaly. Where can I find these error logs?
[22:32] <Senjai> What version of gvim do I install for KDE