[00:00] <echoe> i wish i had that. was going to build my own and try for it. @.@
[00:00] <thecodeischaos> i have 75TB ram
[00:01] <thecodeischaos> and a dozen quantum processors
[00:01] <quibble_> minimec: this is the mouse I am using http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.online365days.com/webshaper/pcm/pictures/keyboardnMouse/Logitech/M100_usb.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.online365days.com/webshaper/store/viewProd.asp?pkProductItem%3D194&h=256&w=350&sz=6&tbnid=OxA-YTdKoNeT7M:&tbnh=90&tbnw=123&zoom=1&usg=___iUcOtDa-6j7Run5DvmK1o7ioNc=&docid=Yn2A_8650dT87M&sa=X&ei=0DmpUZK3G---4AOv1YCgDA&ved=0CGQQ9QEwBw&dur=370
[00:01] <quibble_> minimec: there must be two m100's
[00:02] <SuperLag> echoe: This is a ThinkPad W530.
[00:02] <SuperLag> KiB Mem:  32580568 total, 14647420 used, 17933148 free,   521112 buffers
[00:03] <minimec> quibble_: I surprised that you have problems with that kind of mouse. I mean it's a standard USB mouse without additional buttons. I only used Logitech mouses my whole life. I never had such kind of 'double click' problem.
[00:06] <quibble_> minimec: I don't know. I've had linux for a few months now and this is the first time i've noticed an issue
[00:06] <quibble_> with mouses, that is *
[00:08] <minimec> quibble_: I am sorry, but I guess I cannot help you. I never had problems with a logitech mouse, even with addidtional buttons.
[00:08] <echoe> SuperLag, ahh. my laptop is a cheap a6. :P it does everything ok though. i would really only use 32G if i was spinning up a bunch of virtual environments
[00:10] <quibble_> minimec: that's okay, thank you :D
[00:11] <betrayd>  does that laptop have the eraser head trackpoint quibble?
[00:13] <boosali> hay guys, i am having tgrouble for some time now - i am running ubuntu 12.04 LTS, and for a while now i am trying to upgrade, and i cant... i've looked everywhere, i tried the "do-realse-upgrade -d" thing: it says "No new version available" i changed to "prompt=normal"... and nothing
[00:13] <boosali> i've also reinstalled the update-manager...
[00:13] <boosali> i can do regular updates, but not the dist upgrade
[00:14] <boosali> can any1 try and help me out?
[00:15] <betrayd> boosali hows your current setup, 100% working?
[00:16] <betrayd> wifi video internet multimedia all ok?
[00:16] <boosali> טקד
[00:16] <boosali> yes
[00:17] <minimec> boosali: I don't know why 'do-release-upgrade -d' is not working for you. It works on my 12.04 desktop. But besides... You don't want to 12.10 ... ;) You might switch to a newer kernel in 12.04, but 12.10 is not worth an upgrade from 12.04.
[00:17] <boosali> amm, this is a desktop - net a server... i eventually would like to go to 13.04...
[00:18] <boosali> but if its to hard, how do i go to the new kernel?
[00:19] <epsilonorion> I have an issue when using apt-get to install a package.  I had to compile and build a dependency from source, however, when I try to install a package, it still tries to install the binaries from apt-get of the package I manually installed.  Have I done something wrong when building?  Is there a way to fix this?
[00:19] <Ben64> boosali: do you actually need a new kernel?
[00:20] <minimec> boosali: 13.04 would mean two upgrades, as you cannot upgrade 12.04 -> 13.04. The newer kernels are available in the software repositories. The 3.5... series is 12.10; the 3.8... ones are backports from 13.04
[00:20] <Ben64> epsilonorion: you don't need to compile anything to be able to apt-get something
[00:20] <boosali> thank you guys, i know i need to preform 2 upgrades, thats why i am trying to go to 12.10...
[00:21] <jayn> who has already installed the new IDE of android on Ubuntu please ?
[00:21] <Ben64> boosali: why upgrade every 6 months when you can upgrade every 2 years? :D
[00:21] <boosali> this is not an importante desktop, its meaning is to try and use the new non LTS ubuntu versions
[00:21] <minimec> boosali: My desktop for example is a 12.04 machine with the 3.8.0.23-generic kernel backport ftom
[00:21] <boosali> so i am trying to do the update....
[00:21] <epsilonorion> Ben64, not quite the issue.  I am attempting to install something from apt-get.  It has a dependency on something else, but I needed to build that part from source.  When I try to apt-get install the first one, it is still trying to install the second one as a dependency.
[00:22] <epsilonorion> I dont want this
[00:22] <epsilonorion> as I have already built it manually and installed it
[00:22] <Ben64> epsilonorion: why would you need to build it if it's in apt-get
[00:22] <epsilonorion> its not, it just thinks it is
[00:22] <Ben64> what is it
[00:23] <jayn> Who has already installed the new IDE of android on Ubuntu please ?
[00:23] <minimec> boosali: O love 13.04, but my desktop (the working horse) will stay on 12.04. Stable, LTS... Ask your self that kind of questions. With 13.04 you have to update in abot 8 month from know again...
[00:23] <Ben64> jayn: not really relevant to ubuntu support
[00:23] <minimec> boosali: I love... ;)
[00:23] <thecodeischaos> jayn i have
[00:24] <epsilonorion> I am installing a ROS (Robot Operating Systems) application through apt-get on an ARM based version of Ubuntu.  When I try to install the ROS application it depends on libyaml-cpp-dev.  Well, since there isn't a binary for it on ARM, I had to build from source
[00:24] <epsilonorion> when I go to install the first part again, it attempts to install libyaml-cpp-dev, even though I already did
[00:24] <minimec> boosali: 12.04 with the 3.8 kernel backport is really cool with my i5 Ivy bridge generation computer.
[00:24] <Ben64> epsilonorion: sounds like something that isn't supported in this channel
[00:24] <enymaworks> Hello
[00:25] <boosali> minimec: yeah, i know i will have to update again, i dont mind... this is the purpose of this desktop.... can you help me do the upgrade as i should?
[00:25] <enymaworks> How do I setup a proxy with my irssi?
[00:25] <SuperLag> ecanto: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-05312013-050621pm.php
[00:25] <epsilonorion> Ben64: which is why I didn't explain it that way.  My question is not related to ARMs and compiling.  It is how do I make sure Linux/Ubuntu does not attempt to find a package that I have manually installed from source
[00:25] <epsilonorion> other than this channel or a general linux channel, I am not sure where is best to ask
[00:26] <boosali> i have tried even running the "do-realse-update -d" with a "debug level = 1" envaermental variable, but it said "cant find "percise" in some list
[00:26] <ripplebit> constant beep after keyboard water damage, any ideeas?
[00:26] <minimec> boosali: NOt really. Run the according tool. Maybe disable some ppa, experimental GPU stuff...
[00:26] <Ben64> epsilonorion: might have to compile the whole thing, but we can't support ppas and stuff like that
[00:27] <boosali> i am running radeon 6950HD with Xinerama... can it be the problem?
[00:27] <boosali> i have 2 screens...
[00:27] <SuperLag> epsilonorion: lock the package in synaptic
[00:27] <Ben64> no... number of screens doesn't change upgrades
[00:27] <epsilonorion> SuperLag: how do I do that?  Sorry, never had to
[00:27] <boosali> maybe the Xinerama is somehow makes ot feel uncomfartable ;)?
[00:28] <boosali> it*
[00:29] <epsilonorion> SuperLag: I can look it up if it is easy or too complicated to explain in chat
[00:30] <SuperLag> epsilonorion: sorry. eating
[00:30] <epsilonorion> lol, no biggy
[00:30] <minimec> boosali: That may in fact be a problem..
[00:30] <boosali> let me try to disable it
[00:32] <ripplebit> anyone know how to stop constant beeping of laptop?
[00:33] <SuperLag> ripplebit: shoot iy?\\t?
[00:33] <SuperLag> bah
[00:33] <boosali> i think it needs a restart... I"ll brb
[00:33] <SuperLag> shoot it
[00:33] <ripplebit> tried that, no dice
[00:35] <ripplebit> anyone know how to stop constant beeping of laptop?
[00:35] <Ben64> turn it off
[00:36] <ripplebit> any helpful ideas?
[00:36] <Ben64> go to #hardware maybe?
[00:37] <cotton> does the BIOS/EFI say anything?
[00:37] <SuperLag> ripplebit: if you tried shooting it, and it still beeps... it's time to take it to an exorcist :)
[00:37] <TempusFugit32> check to see if any keys are stuck?
[00:37] <SuperLag> ripplebit: either that, or you're a REALLY bad shot :D
[00:38] <ripplebit> i cant access bios
[00:38] <ripplebit> tried #hardware
[00:38] <SuperLag> why not?
[00:38] <Ben64> well its a hardware problem, not an ubuntu problem
[00:38] <Ben64> be patient
[00:39] <ripplebit> keyboards broken
[00:39] <ripplebit> i want to turn off beeping
[00:39] <SuperLag> what do you mean the keyboard is broken?
[00:39] <ripplebit> water dmg
[00:39] <Campfire> whats a good channal  here with a lil less tech stuff
[00:39] <betrayd> ne key is shorted
[00:40] <SuperLag> then it is probably affecting other things too... get your hardware fixed, amigo
[00:40] <ripplebit> but i want to stop the beeping noise
[00:40] <SuperLag> Campfire: what did you want to talk about, your cat? :)
[00:40] <Ben64> #hardware --- stop asking here
[00:40] <Campfire> yeah something like that
[00:41] <Ben64> !alis | Campfire
[00:41] <Campfire> or cat cmd
[00:41] <Campfire> ty
[00:41] <betrayd> ripplebit plug  in a headphone
[00:41] <betrayd> then an extra keyboard
[00:41] <ripplebit> i tried, still makes noise
[00:42] <betrayd> which one
[00:42] <ripplebit> head
[00:42] <Ben64> betrayd: if you want to help ripplebit, great. just do it in a different channel
[00:43] <ripplebit> and dont have keyboard
[00:43] <Campfire> whats the prob with ripplebit thingey
[00:43] <betrayd> thats it
[00:43] <Campfire> so using on screen keybourd
[00:44] <ripplebit> i am, but i want to stop the beeping
[00:44] <Campfire> well if no keybourd wonder what he using speak to text or something
[00:44] <ripplebit> vkey
[00:44] <ripplebit> onscreen
[00:44] <Ben64> come on guys, this is for ubuntu support only. take it elsewhere. #hardware is perfect for this
[00:44] <Campfire> oh nice i used that
[00:45] <boosali> hay guys, I am back, I"ve disabled Xinerama and disconnected 1 screen, ubuntu knows i have onyl 1 screen now... still no upgrades are availabel
[00:45] <Ben64> boosali: i told you it wouldn't change anything
[00:45] <boosali> yeah, but i had to try...
[00:45] <ripplebit> thanks for the help anyway
[00:46] <boosali> i am getting out of options here...
[00:46] <Campfire> hey bit what are you trying to do again
[00:46] <betrayd> got ati xinerama working on buntu? I would not touch it
[00:46] <boosali> lol...
[00:46] <Ben64> boosali: what does "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" say?
[00:46] <boosali> No new release found
[00:47] <boosali> and i have changed the promts=normal thingi
[00:48] <Ben64> boosali: try this? http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/06/upgrade-to-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal-from-ubuntu-12-04/
[00:49] <boosali> i saw that, tried it earlier and now again... didnt help :(
[00:49] <boosali> its allready "for any new version"
[00:50] <Ben64> did  you hit the check button
[00:51] <boosali> yap
[00:53] <terretz> I'm having an odd issue.  When I start my machine, I get an error that "/media can't mount" under the xubuntu logo.  My fstab is set to mound /dev/sdb1 to /media.  When I type 'sudo mount /dev/sdb1' - sdb1 mounts to /media with no issue
[00:53] <terretz> it just won't mount on start up
[00:54] <terretz> my fstab is in pastebin: v
[00:54] <terretz> erg.
[00:54] <terretz> my fstab is in pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5721566/
[00:55] <Ben64> you need to have it in a directory inside of media
[00:55] <terretz> so, /dev/sdb1 needs to mount to /media/foo ?
[00:56] <Ben64> terretz: yep
[00:56] <terretz> alright - I'll give it a shot
[00:56] <tgm4883> terretz, also, you should mount by UUID and not device path, but that isn't the issue you are having (Ben64 is right)
[00:57] <boosali> guys?
[00:57] <Ben64> i always specify my own UUIDs, it's more leet. UUID=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000064 /mnt/tree       ext4    defaults 0 2
[00:58] <driftking> hello
[00:58] <driftking> anybody here?
[00:59] <tgm4883> !ask | driftking
[00:59] <terretz> ack - how do I force fstab to run without rebooting?
[00:59] <Ben64> terretz: sudo mount -a
[00:59] <tgm4883> terretz, 'sudo mount -a'
[00:59] <terretz> thank you!
[00:59] <boosali> gyus ,how do i st up the env variable to debug = 1 for the do-realse-upgrade?
[00:59] <terretz> ok - it ran successfully!
[01:00] <driftking> i just installed Ubuntu on a Compaq Evo N610c Laptop and my GUI is not loading and this is the first time i tried it on?
[01:00] <rypervenche> What's the IRC command in most clients to output a console command? It's /something -o
[01:02] <driftking> My Ubuntu GUI is not loading! Anyone knows how i can fix this?
[01:02] <tgm4883> !patience | driftking
[01:02] <grkblood> Something happened with my video drivers and nwo whenever I try to play a video in vlc the video crashes but the audio continues to play. In "Additional Drivers" is says I'm using ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX drivers but the output of fglrxinfo is giving me: X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[01:03] <driftking> does that mean that im going to have to wait or am i not going to get an answer cos no one knows?
[01:04] <mkennedy> i had that problem when i first installed try running sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade then reboot
[01:05] <Guest3135> does anyone here know anything about PHP or webapps?
[01:06] <terretz> Ben64, tgm4883 Thank you!  Just restarted my machine - worked like a charm!
[01:06] <boosali> ok guys, i have something intresting:
[01:06] <boosali> i did this:
[01:06] <boosali> export DEBUG_UPDATE_MANAGER=1
[01:06] <boosali> then did the "do-release-upgrade -d"
[01:06] <boosali> then i got this:
[01:07] <boosali> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[01:07] <boosali> MetaRelease.__init__() useDevel=True useProposed=False
[01:07] <boosali> metarelease-uri: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-development
[01:07] <boosali> MetaRelease.download()
[01:07] <boosali> result of meta-release download: 'timed out'
[01:07] <boosali> NO self.metarelease_information
[01:07] <boosali> No new release found
[01:07] <FloodBot1> boosali: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:07] <boosali> ohh, sorry, it thinks i flooded...
[01:07] <ilovett> boosali: fuck off
[01:07] <Ben64> boosali: you did flood
[01:07] <ilovett> you think?
[01:07] <boosali> sorry...
[01:07] <Ben64> ilovett: watch the language and attitude
[01:07] <Guest3135> Is anyone else having a issue with youtube on Ubuntu 13.04?
[01:08] <ilovett> the motherfucking bot just said you did
[01:08] <ilovett> Ben64: fuck you too
[01:08] <tgm4883> !ohmy | ilovett
[01:08] <ilovett> fuck you all
[01:08] <tgm4883> good riddance
[01:08] <davidfetter> that seems time-consuming, not to mention distasteful
[01:09] <Aww> Guest3135, what kind of issue?
[01:09] <Guest3135> about every 3rd time I go to watch a youtube, the youtube will com up but will be completely black, the sound will work fine but the video will just show a black screen
[01:09] <terretz> wow
[01:09] <terretz> that was straight out of nowhere
[01:09] <boosali> any1 has any idea of what should i try?
[01:09] <davidfetter> i mean even if we credit mr. lovett with being able to manage this once every 15 minutes, that's 378 hours
[01:10] <tgm4883> boosali, what release are  you on?    can you pastebin a 'lsb_release -a'
[01:10] <tgm4883> IdleOne, thanks
[01:10] <Guest3135> I have reinstalled flash and also when I right click the youtube the settings are frozen
[01:10] <the_eye_> hi, any way to read intel gpu temperature ?
[01:10] <tgm4883> Guest3135, are you using html5 on youtube?
[01:10] <terretz> Guest3135, what browser are you using?
[01:10] <boosali> how to post the result without flooding?
[01:10] <Guest3135> How would I tell?
[01:10] <Tylerjd> the_eye_: What intel chip are you using?
[01:10] <boosali> it sas: 12.04.2
[01:10] <tgm4883> !pastebin | boosali
[01:10] <Ben64> boosali: the bot told you, use pastebin
[01:11] <the_eye_> Tylerjd, VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:a001] (rev 02)
[01:11] <Guest3135> hey sorry terretz
[01:11] <Guest3135> chrome
[01:11] <boosali> root@boosa-ubuntu:~# lsb_release -a
[01:11] <boosali> No LSB modules are available.
[01:11] <boosali> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[01:11] <boosali> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS
[01:11] <boosali> Release:	12.04
[01:11] <FloodBot1> boosali: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:11] <boosali> Codename:	precise
[01:11] <terretz> omg boosali stop
[01:11] <Ben64> boosali: dude come on
[01:11] <terretz> use pastebin
[01:12] <terretz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[01:12] <Tylerjd> the_eye_: I am asking more of is it a GMA950, HD 3/4000, I can't tell off of that
[01:12] <terretz> Guest3135, let me see if it's happening to me.
[01:12] <the_eye_> Tylerjd, Its  N10 (atom)
[01:12] <boosali> how to use this pastebin?
[01:13] <terretz> boosali, first, goto the link
[01:13] <terretz> boosali, second, paste
[01:13] <Tylerjd> the_eye_: Oh, okay, hah, didn't recognize that one, thanks. As long as there is a thermal sensor on the chip, you should be able to use lm-sensors
[01:14] <IdleOne> boosali: go to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ enter the text you want to pastebin into the box, click paste, tell the person helping you the URL
[01:14] <Guest3135> Thanks Terretz
[01:14] <boosali> yes
[01:14] <Tylerjd> the_eye_: Then a sudo sensors-detect should work
[01:14] <boosali> ahh...
[01:14] <phillyj> the_eye_: did you install sensors?
[01:14] <boosali> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5721606/
[01:15] <phillyj> the_eye_: install lm-sensors and then configure with sensors-detect command
[01:15] <boosali> tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5721606/
[01:15] <the_eye_> Tylerjd, Yes I have sensors. No data about GPU.
[01:16] <Tylerjd> the_eye_: Hmm, odd. I'm sorry but I don't know what to tell you then. Are you sure that GPU has a temp sensor on board?
[01:16] <tgm4883> boob00, can you pastebin the output of 'cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades'
[01:16] <tgm4883> bah
[01:16] <tgm4883> boosali, can you pastebin the output of 'cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades'
[01:16] <terretz> Guest3135, like this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/281482/why-are-youtube-videos-not-playing-properly-on-chrome
[01:16] <the_eye_> Also no data in acpi -iV
[01:16] <tgm4883> Guest3135, you could check via 'http://youtube.com/html5
[01:17] <boosali> tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5721613/
[01:17] <the_eye_> Tylerjd,  No I not sure if there is any sensor. I just trying to read if there is anything. Any workaround ?
[01:18] <ncmxcxx> what is the most common programming language used in ubuntu?
[01:19] <ncmxcxx> or on linux?
[01:19] <tgm4883> boosali, not sure. It looks like it should be working
[01:19] <tgm4883> ncmxcxx, python maybe?
[01:19] <Tylerjd> the_eye_: I don't have one of those chips in front of me, so I am not positive, though it /may/ not have a thermal sensor on board just because it is such a low power chip. Don't quote me on that - the best I would say is just to monitor the CPU usage
[01:19] <boosali> tgm4883: i know, thats y i am here
[01:19] <ncmxcxx> what language would I have to learn that would allow me to write basic apps for most linux distros?
[01:19] <Tylerjd> ncmxcxx: Ubuntu, many of the automated stuff is in Perl
[01:20] <ncmxcxx> is perl a complete language?
[01:20] <tgm4883> I write all my apps in python
[01:20] <Tylerjd> What do you mean by complete?
[01:20] <ncmxcxx> will your apps run on windows?
[01:20] <the_eye_> Tylerjd, ok thanks
[01:20] <ncmxcxx> does python allow me to make decentt guis?
[01:20] <tgm4883> ncmxcxx, yes, my apps run on windows
[01:20] <boosali> any1 had any ideas?... :(
[01:21] <Tylerjd> the_eye_: I mean the CPU temp, not usage, now that I just re-read that
[01:21] <ncmxcxx> tgm are they self installing or do they need to download additional stuff?
[01:21] <tgm4883> boosali, maybe try with sudo rather than being logged in as root?
[01:21] <boosali> tgm4883: tried that too
[01:21] <tgm4883> ncmxcxx, you'd need to have python installed on windows
[01:21] <ncmxcxx> so when distributing the app you would have tell the person to install python?
[01:22] <tgm4883> ncmxcxx, IDK, you'd have to look at the distribution licensing for python. I imagine you could build an installer that installed python if it wasn't already installed
[01:22] <erasmus> Can I tell apt-get to not install the packages but instead just download them to a specified location?
[01:22] <the_eye_> Tylerjd, Yes its seems right. Most of intel GPU are included in CPU.
[01:23] <tgm4883> boosali, where do you live?
[01:23] <boosali> israel
[01:24] <boosali> tgm4883: check this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5721620/  with the "export DEBUG_UPDATE_MANAGER=1" thingi
[01:24] <boosali> so i get there a timeout...
[01:24] <tgm4883> boosali, I'm running out of ideas. Is that machine fully up to date? (eg. 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade')
[01:24] <boosali> but on regular updates it works fine
[01:24] <boosali> yes, machine is fully updated
[01:25] <Rarrikins> Is there an easy way to get add-apt-repository to add for distribution precise instead of raring?
[01:25] <IdleOne> Rarrikins: no, and that is a bad idea. You shouldn't mix versions in your repos
[01:26] <Rarrikins> IdleOne: Some packages don't have raring versions.
[01:26] <tgm4883> boosali, seems like a networking issue then
[01:26] <IdleOne> Rarrikins: which packages?
[01:26] <Rarrikins> IdleOne: One is natecarlson's maven3
[01:26] <boosali> tgm4883: regular updates work fine... and if i try wget on these link there, they all work
[01:27] <IdleOne> Rarrikins: I don't recommend this but you can add repos to /etc/apt/sources.list manually.
[01:27] <boosali> maybe there is some proxy or dns config its looking for?
[01:27] <IdleOne> Rarrikins: check the PPA and it will give you the full URL to add
[01:27] <Rarrikins> IdleOne: OK, thanks.
[01:28] <IdleOne> Rarrikins: You should also file a bug against that package and request they add a raring version to the PPA
[01:29] <boosali> well, guys, i have to go now, I"ll try bothering you again  later :)
[01:29] <tgm4883> boosali, well it should look like this   http://pastebin.com/3DKtYEci
[01:29] <tgm4883> boosali, you could try blowing away the cache file
[01:29] <tgm4883> but IDK
[01:30] <regorianer> well, i am too stupid to set up supervisor (daemontools) ... i installed daemontools and daemontools-run and put a testscript with a simple loop and echo to /dev/null as the run script in /etc/service/run. after running sudo svscanboot i get the processes supvervices (thats what i guess)
[01:30] <regorianer> root@raspberrypi:/home/pi# pgrep -lf super
[01:30] <regorianer> 1583 supervise testSupervise
[01:30] <regorianer> 1587 supervise supervise
[01:30] <regorianer> 1750 supervise
[01:30] <FloodBot1> regorianer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:30] <regorianer> but i cannot stop with svc -d
[01:30] <tgm4883> IdleOne, Rarrikins you can use apt-add-repository to add full repo line rather than the short LP version eg. "apt-add-repository 'deb http://myserver/path/to/repo stable myrepo'"
[01:31] <tgm4883> Rarrikins, you'd still need to get the proper line from the ppa page though
[01:31] <regorianer> but i cannot stop with svc -d
[01:31] <IdleOne> tgm4883: did not know that, thanks.
[01:31] <boosali> tgm4883: deleting the file should help?
[01:31] <tgm4883> IdleOne, yw
[01:31] <tgm4883> boosali, shouldn't hurt it seems
[01:31] <tgm4883> regorianer, a supervisor? what does that do?
[01:32] <boosali> tgm4883 ok, now there is new msg - we are getting somewhere :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/5721638/
[01:33] <regorianer> tgm4883: monitoring if my process is running, if not it restarts the process
[01:33] <tgm4883> regorianer, ah, I'd just use upstart for that
[01:33] <regorianer> well i have upstart installed too
[01:33] <regorianer> how do you do that with upstart ?
[01:33] <boosali> no more timeout, but it cant find the local version or something
[01:34] <regorianer> all i read is that daemontools is easy to use ... but i have my problems ...
[01:34] <tgm4883> regorianer, I've got a basic upstart job I could show you, sec
[01:34] <dr_willis> daemontools? isent that a windows iso-mounting software?
[01:35] <regorianer> that would be great, i am a little bit ... lemme say ... overheaded with what i am doing, worked long time only with angstrom and now trying to port some packages to debian
[01:36] <tgm4883> regorianer, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5721646/
[01:38] <tgm4883> boosali, did the cache file come back at "~/.cache/update-manager-core/meta-release"
[01:39] <regorianer> tgm4883: what it telling your server to restart after a crash ?
[01:39] <regorianer> or better said ... who is watching ?
[01:39] <tgm4883> regorianer, I'm assuming you mean what if the service crashes (not the server), upstart is watching
[01:40] <regorianer> sure, service, sorry
[01:41] <tgm4883> regorianer, that is what lines 7 and 8 do. It sets it to respawn on crash. Line 8 specifies how many times it's allowed to restart it in a certain time span (no need to keep restarting a service if it just dies immediately)
[01:42] <regorianer> true, and how you start this service on boot then ?
[01:42] <regorianer> and how u stop it ?
[01:42] <regorianer> need these for the preinst and postinst script for the package
[01:43] <tgm4883> regorianer, that would be the 'start on' and 'stop on' lines
[01:43] <tgm4883> regorianer, so that one is starting when the local filesystems and also eth0 are both up
[01:43] <regorianer> ok, i will try
[01:44] <regorianer> ok means that upstart is already started
[01:44] <tgm4883> regorianer, upstart is what ubuntu uses to bring up all the services
[01:45] <seronis> im currently trying to use the 'convert' command from the console to change a PDF to a PNG image.  The pdf is crystal clear but the fonts are highly blurred in the resulting PNG image and some fine lines are just missing
[01:45] <tgm4883> regorianer, it's a core part of ubuntu
[01:45] <seronis> can anyone give help with fixing the quality ?
[01:47] <regorianer> yeah i just read it, sorry have to inform me better first before asking such questions ;)
[01:49] <joseluis8906> hi
[01:53] <darkangel> hey guys i need some help and havin problems
[01:54] <darkangel> any 1 here? :)
[01:54] <seronis> !ask | darkangel
[01:55] <|1li> that's the way it goes in IRC usually
[01:55] <|1li> not like runescape
[01:55] <darkangel> oooookkk?
[01:56] <darkangel> u see my screen or something?
[01:57] <darkangel> well any ways im havin log out problems ever since i updated to 3.2.0.45 or something like that i been havin like alot of issues with my computer and nocking me off into like alot of codes area
[01:58] <savid> How do I run a command with paramters under gksudo?
[01:58] <seronis> gksudo gedit path/to/file.ext
[02:00] <savid> seronis, it doesn't work with flag args, such as "-n"
[02:00] <savid> gksudo start-stop-daemon -n foo
[02:01] <savid> it fails with:  invalid option "n"
[02:03] <zykotick9> savid: for starters, i wouldn't try using gksudo for non-gui apps...  that's what sudo is for!
[02:04] <savid> zykotick9, yeah I wouldn't be using gksudo if I didn't need it for a reason :-P
[02:04] <savid> obviously I know about sudo
[02:04] <deckard> hello, which server is best for foot talk?
[02:04] <tgm4883> !OT | deckard
[02:04] <deckard> oh okay, yes i see
[02:07] <tgm4883> savid, have you tried "gksudo 'start-stop-daemon -n foo'"
[02:07] <seronis> savid: sorry tested a few programs with gksudo and they all accepted arguments
[02:07] <savid> tgm4883, yeah that doesn't work.  I just figured it out though.  it's:   gksudo -- start-stop-daemon -n foo
[02:08] <savid> seronis, I think the problem is with "-" args
[02:08] <savid> at any rate, there's a workaround.
[02:08] <James_Epp> Has anyone here had success establishing audio/video with a Hauppauge WinTV PVR 150?
[02:09] <Ari-Yang> I have a question, lets say I get a repo from git, I ./autogen.sh then make but don't make install. Is the program installed or should I run make uninstall ?
[02:09] <TempusFugit32> hey all
[02:09] <tgm4883> James_Epp, yes
[02:09] <James_Epp> tgm4883: What steps did you take?
[02:10] <James_Epp> tgm4883: I installed suing that line: http://tv-viewer.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Howto#K.2FX.2FUbuntu_and_other_debian_based_systems     and then I installed tv-viewer (latest)
[02:10] <tgm4883> James_Epp, it should pretty much work out of the box
[02:10] <TempusFugit32> anyone have a clue why cairo dock is making a phantom type chrome window I cant close?
[02:10] <betrayd> Ari-Yang if the make was successful all the good pieces will be in that src directory
[02:10] <James_Epp> tgm4883: ubuntu 12.04.2 amd64 BTW
[02:10] <zykotick9> TempusFugit32: do you have 3d support in xorg?
[02:10] <Ari-Yang> betrayd *nod* but lets say I want to make again, should I run make uninstall ?
[02:11] <TempusFugit32> yes It just started doing it today i added a few applets and now I have a new window I cant close
[02:11] <tgm4883> James_Epp, I've never used tv-viewer, does it let you specify which card to use?
[02:11] <betrayd> Ari-Yang some have make clean mentioned in teh README
[02:11] <Ari-Yang> I don't recall make clean being there... I'll check
[02:12] <TempusFugit32> zykotick9: want me to post a pastebin?
[02:12] <James_Epp> tgm4883: no, here is one of the preference tabs: http://i.imgur.com/1EPGvee.png
[02:12] <betrayd> Ari-Yang make uninstall would be it then, if no 'make clean' is  found
[02:12] <zykotick9> TempusFugit32: no, i have no idea.  but i know cairo needs 3d to display correctly.
[02:13] <James_Epp> tgm4883: What program did you use? Movie Player? VLC?
[02:13] <TempusFugit32> zykotick9: ok ty
[02:13] <tgm4883> James_Epp, ok, assuming that the card is tuned to a proper channel, do 'cat /dev/video0 > ~/test.mpg', let that run for 30 seconds, then do ctrl+c and see if you can play back the file
[02:13] <tgm4883> James_Epp, mythtv, I haven't used my pvr-150 in a few years though
[02:13] <Ari-Yang> betrayd, yeah, make uninstall it is, reason I'm doing this is because I got 1 error...
[02:14] <clcto> zykotick9: cairo is composition, which means it neads 3d to be able to display windows with transparency and such
[02:14] <betrayd> Ari-Yang ok
[02:15] <James_Epp> tgm4883: I got static. How would I set up mythtv?
[02:15] <jibcage> Hello! Is anybody here familiar with the DNS tunneling program iodine?
[02:15] <tgm4883> James_Epp, so it sounds like it's working, just not tuned to a specific channel
[02:15] <zykotick9> clcto: thanks - i know.
[02:16] <tgm4883> James_Epp, can you do something like  "ivtv-tune -c25" (25 is channel number)
[02:17] <James_Epp> tgm4883: Output: sudo aptitude install tcl8.5 tk8.5 ivtv-utils libtk-img xdg-utils
[02:17] <James_Epp> oops :S
[02:17] <Guest3135> Terretz thank you for the link, however, I don't have the  pepperflash plugin /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so at all, just the /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[02:17] <clcto> zykotick9: sorry i just joined i thought that was a question
[02:17] <James_Epp> tgm4883: Output: /dev/video0: 229.250 MHz
[02:18] <tgm4883> James_Epp, ok, can you try the cat command again and see if you get video now?
[02:18] <Guest3135> Also sorry for the long time in between  responses
[02:18] <zykotick9> clcto: all good :)
[02:19] <James_Epp> tgm4883: For a little bit of context, I am grabbing gamecube footage.
[02:19] <tgm4883> James_Epp, oh. Are you using the coax in then or something like svideo?
[02:19] <James_Epp> Composite.
[02:20] <tgm4883> ah ok, that is something different. Sec
[02:20] <tgm4883> James_Epp, do 'v4l2-ctl -i 2'
[02:21] <James_Epp> tgm4883: Video input set to 2 (Composite 1: ok)
[02:21] <tgm4883> James_Epp, that should switch it to composite, then do the cat command and see if it works
[02:21] <James_Epp> tgm4883: I got some audio and video, but I do not believe the channel is correct. I am getting a lot of lines :P
[02:22] <James_Epp> But hey-- thanks for the help thus far!
[02:22] <tgm4883> James_Epp, you're doing composite, there is no channel
[02:22] <James_Epp> tgm4883: My bad. Well, now that this is working, how would I go about watching it?
[02:23] <tgm4883> James_Epp, try tv-viewer again
[02:23] <tgm4883> James_Epp, there is an option in that screenshot to select composite I think
[02:23] <tgm4883> James_Epp, "video input", that should set to composite
[02:24] <James_Epp> tgm4883: There is Tuner, S-Video 1, Composite 1, S-Video 2, and Composite 2
[02:24] <tgm4883> James_Epp, composite 1
[02:25] <James_Epp> tgm4883: I am in Canada. What should I use for frequency table? I have the following: (us-bcast, us-cable, us-cable-hrc, us-cable-irc)
[02:26] <tgm4883> James_Epp, that shouldn't matter as you aren't scanning for channels
[02:26] <tgm4883> James_Epp, composite shouldn't need that
[02:26] <ugly_duck> ok, not really a ubuntu issue at all, playing an online game and having issue, when i ping the server PING bp-fb-vip.sjc2.kixeye.com i get a response time of time=146 ms, is this high for a playing an online game, thoughts?
[02:26] <tgm4883> ugly_duck, for a FPS, yes
[02:27] <ugly_duck> nah, its a battle pirates, flash game
[02:27] <tgm4883> ugly_duck, then I don't see why your ping should matter
[02:27] <TempusFugit32> ok its been quite awhile since i posted on imagebin anyone offer a refresh?
[02:27] <James_Epp> tgm4883: These settings with no input. http://goo.gl/zmOcV
[02:27] <tgm4883> TempusFugit32, uh, upload and paste link?
[02:28] <tgm4883> James_Epp, huh?
[02:28] <ugly_duck> tgm4883: well, my game crashed and i've asked them for credits, had to run traceroute etc and post it to them, they said my ping rate was too high and contact my isp to resolve the issue..
[02:28] <tgm4883> ugly_duck, hmm, weird
[02:28] <sharpie> Still can't get session manager to start gui.
[02:28] <TempusFugit32> tgm4883:  do i need to register or sign in?
[02:28] <James_Epp> tgm4883: I am getting nothing through the video with those settings.
[02:28] <tgm4883> James_Epp, did you set the input to composite 1?
[02:28] <James_Epp> tgm4883: I did.....it must have switched back automatically
[02:29] <tgm4883> TempusFugit32, you need to put in a nick and accept the terms I think
[02:29] <tgm4883> James_Epp, odd
[02:29] <James_Epp> tgm4883: Actually, operator error. Tee-hee. No input with both composite 1 and 2
[02:30] <tgm4883> James_Epp, but it works when we do it from the command line?
[02:30] <James_Epp> tgm4883: Exactly.
[02:30] <tgm4883> James_Epp, sounds like an issue with the program
[02:31] <James_Epp> tgm4883: I'll brb. MythTV wants me to log out to apply some stuff.
[02:31] <lastprophet> hi
[02:32] <tgm4883> James_Epp, are you planning on trying to play a game on your gamecube through the pvr-150?
[02:32] <James_Epp> tgm4883: Yes, that is the goal.
[02:32] <tgm4883> James_Epp, you'll get a 4 second delay with mythtv
[02:32] <James_Epp> ouch.....
[02:33] <tgm4883> James_Epp, I'd try VLC
[02:33] <James_Epp> tgm4883: idk what options to use. I had this working on windows xp with a program called 'dscaler' (dinterlace.sf.net)\
[02:34] <James_Epp> tgm4883: Correct: deinterlace.sf.net
[02:34] <TempusFugit32> http://imagebin.org/259771 ok so here is my dilemma with cairo, maybe the chrome applet somehow is opening a browser on boot. had to kill the cairo pid from term to get rid of it, looked through settings of cairo and applets and cant find anything to change or fix any ideas?
[02:35] <tgm4883> James_Epp, I'd try VLC, only because it plays back everything I've thrown at it, it's cross platform, and it have support for capture cards
[02:35] <James_Epp> tgm4883: Using these options, the program crashes right away. http://imgur.com/fss7rc3
[02:36] <tgm4883> James_Epp, run vlc from the command line so we can see why it crashes, also, what are the options under capture type
[02:36] <tgm4883> James_Epp, err, capture mode
[02:38] <TempusFugit32> http://imagebin.org/259771 ok so here is my dilemma with cairo, maybe the chrome applet somehow is opening a browser on boot. had to kill the cairo pid from term to get rid of it, looked through settings of cairo and applets and cant find anything to change or fix any ideas?
[02:39] <James_Epp> Video for Linux 2, PVR,  TV (digital) and Desktop. This is what PVR shows: http://imgur.com/TaWJ3R0. I am not familiar with VLC from command line. vlc  vcd:///dev/video0 did nothing helpful.
[02:40] <tgm4883> James_Epp, just run 'vlc' from the command line, then it will start as normal but provide a log in the terminal. Then select PVR and put /dev/video0 for the device
[02:40] <James_Epp> tgm4883: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[02:40] <tgm4883> :(
[02:41] <James_Epp> tgm4883: SoL?
[02:41] <tgm4883> James_Epp, sec
[02:41] <TempusFugit32> :)
[02:42] <tgm4883> James_Epp, how about this from a terminal   'vlc -vvv v4l2:///dev/video0:input=2'
[02:43] <TempusFugit32> anyone help me change the color of my font on a downloaded theme?
[02:43] <TempusFugit32> the font is white on a light blue background and very hard to see
[02:45] <James_Epp> tgm4883: It goes past my terminal limit. ('Your command' >> file.txt does not work) http://pastebin.com/Uy2UwMbg
[02:47] <b3n> hi
[02:48] <b3n> question -- how do I change the font of a specific application ?
[02:48] <tgm4883> James_Epp, not sure then. You could similarily try with totem. We know the card works, just have to find something to play it back in
[02:48] <Heisenberg> how to stop mode unity for install driver for video?
[02:49] <James_Epp> tgm4883: totem? Is that not the built-in movie player?
[02:49] <tgm4883> Heisenberg, 'sudo service lightdm stop'
[02:49] <tgm4883> James_Epp, yes it is
[02:50] <James_Epp> tgm4883: How do I open /dev/video0 in that then?
[02:51] <tgm4883> James_Epp, try "open location"
[02:51] <Heisenberg> tgm4883: thanks man
[02:52] <James_Epp> tgm4883: Location not found.
[02:52] <tgm4883> :(
[02:52] <sharpie> What would stop lightdm from starting gui?
[02:52] <sharpie> was working fine until update
[02:52] <tgm4883> sharpie, check logs
[02:53] <sharpie> been looking at logs all day
[02:54] <sharpie> is there a way to run a debug command on it?
[02:54] <sharpie> cat dbus.log
[02:54] <sharpie> Unknown username "dnsmasq" in message bus configuration file
[02:55] <razzledazzle> anyone have the astyle plugin for geany on ubuntu?
[02:56] <seronis> Q: im using the 'convert' command on the console to get a PNG image generated from a pdf file. The pdf is crystal clear if I open it directly but the converted png has unreadable text and is missing details
[02:56] <Ari-Yang> how do I set a new terminal as default?
[02:56] <seronis> anyone familiar with getting that command to produce higher quality ?
[02:58] <James_Epp> tgm4883: Hopefully board.4chan.org/g/ will be my shining knight <3
[02:58] <seronis> Ari-Yang: in xubuntu in the Settings panel there is a 'preferred applications' option.  not sure if Unity is set up similarly or not
[02:58] <sharpie> Still i've been getting a black screen with mouse after login
[02:58] <TempusFugit32> ok so can anyone tell me how to change a system font color?
[03:00] <matttt> I'm struggling to make my GRUB menu legible.  I'm running from a live CD right now.  What do I do?
[03:00] <sharpie> grub 2 is easier to view
[03:00] <Jordan_U> matttt: In what way is it not legible?
[03:01] <matttt> Jordan_U: only the upper 1/3 of the screen has anything on it.  And it's like each horizontal line of pixels is sliced up and displayed at random
[03:02] <matttt> sharpie: is grub1 the default grub installed with 12.04?
[03:02] <Jordan_U> matttt: Try GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT=console in /etc/default/grub.
[03:04] <b3n> question -- how do I change the font of a specific application ?
[03:05] <sharpie> matttt: Grub 3 or the second version of grub.  Arch linux uses the previous version.  I use arch for grub when I have 6 or more OS's on a laptop
[03:05] <matttt> Jordan_U: k, I'm gonna follow this to make the change: howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd#.UalkvpEgjCI
[03:05] <Ari-Yang> can someone help me, for some reason I don't have sound from anywhere at all
[03:05] <Ari-Yang> not in movie players, or online stuff like youtube
[03:06] <sharpie> pulseaudio and or alsa for sound
[03:06] <sharpie> My sound is gone too
[03:06] <goddard> is there a way i can make my computer use the onboard video card
[03:06] <Ari-Yang> I see pulseaudio in the processes under system monitor
[03:06] <sharpie> On-Board vid card is setup within the bios options not the OS
[03:07] <Ari-Yang> I'm on ubuntu 12.10, this is all sudden... unless some dep packages I installed somehow screwed up the sound
[03:07] <Ari-Yang> wait it's back...
[03:07] <sharpie> I fixed sound by removing and reinstalling per a forum I read
[03:08] <matttt> Jordan_U: GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT=console or GRUB_TERMINAL=console?
[03:08] <sharpie> maybe dpkg-reconfigure
[03:08] <goddard> sharpie: so i can make my onboard default in the bios if i needed to?
[03:08] <sharpie> goddard: The bios is where the OS gets hardware information from.
[03:09] <Jordan_U> matttt: Either will work.
[03:09] <sharpie> goddard: Option could read as which one to use first in bios
[03:10] <matttt> Jordan_U: okay, heregoes; thanks
[03:10] <sharpie> goddard: On older motherboards it's controlled by jumpers on the board
[03:10] <sharpie> goddard: read the motherboard manual for clues
[03:12] <b3n> question -- how do I change the font of a specific application ?
[03:13] <sharpie> Hope this link works http://pastebin.com/26vLxxCg     /var/log/gdm/greeter.log
[03:14] <soy_el_pulpo> !stats
[03:14] <soy_el_pulpo> !bot
[03:14] <b3n> question -- how do I change the font of a specific application ?
[03:15] <sharpie> In the applications options?  Which app?
[03:15] <sharpie> If your using Unity GUI.  File Edit Veiw is on the top bar when your using an app
[03:16] <sharpie> Hidden
[03:16] <mattttt> Jordan_U: Thank you!! That's been driving me nuts for days
[03:16] <sharpie> xfce4 is good. Have to install gnome-icons to make it look normal
[03:17] <sharpie> I still can't login to XFCE4 or others using lightdm, gdm and mdm.
[03:18] <sharpie> Driving me to drink, can't find what the update broke.
[03:20] <Vivekananda> Hi everyone. For lubuntu how do I do normal network things like 1.Find out computers in my lan especially a mac computer 2. See my lan and other computers in it 3. Connect to the mac computer and exchange files.    All these for Lubuntu
[03:21] <sharpie>  tcpdump? wireshark?
[03:21] <sharpie> nc
[03:22] <Vivekananda> sharpie: that for me ?
[03:22] <sharpie> yeah
[03:22] <sharpie> tcpdump can watch traffic
[03:22] <sharpie> so can wireshark with gui
[03:23] <sharpie> Not sure if samba can be used to share files with a Mac
[03:23] <sharpie> Might use the filemanager to search for shares and networks
[03:24] <sharpie> Nautilus  Go/Network
[03:24] <terretz_> you can use SMB
[03:24] <sharpie> samba is for windows
[03:24] <terretz_> it's what I use with my ubuntu/macs
[03:24] <terretz_> yeah but Mac OS supports SMB
[03:24] <sharpie> smb and samba is the same
[03:25] <terretz_> correct
[03:25] <sharpie> works with nmbd too
[03:26] <sharpie> Mac is basically a Unix OS.  Maybe if you had root access you can use ssh or sshfs
[03:26] <sharpie> scp as well
[03:26] <sharpie> Maybe even NFS
[03:28] <terretz_> oh damnit
[03:28] <terretz_> I forgot that I borked my SMB server earlier
[03:28] <terretz_> true story.
[03:28] <sharpie> Always save a backup of the original config file
[03:29] <terretz_> yeah - I changed the name of the share point
[03:29] <terretz_> and forgot to update my conf file
[03:29] <sharpie> cp smb.conf smb.backup
[03:29] <terretz_> glad no one saw that
[03:29] <soy_el_pulpo> sharpie: smb is an option on macs
[03:29] <refurb_NC_CM720> hi
[03:29] <terretz_> heck yeah man
[03:30] <terretz_> I do that before I edit any file
[03:30] <terretz_> good habits
[03:30] <soy_el_pulpo> true
[03:30] <refurb_NC_CM720> is there any way to get noaa weather alerts on a linux computer?
[03:30] <sharpie> I'm not a Mac person. It's always been to proprietary for me.
[03:30] <Jordan_U> mattttt: You're welcome :)
[03:31] <soy_el_pulpo> sharpie: they are more open than you can imagine
[03:31] <sharpie> Mac is Unix.  I can use Unix all day long
[03:32] <sharpie> But not a mouse with one button
[03:32] <soy_el_pulpo> I heard of people installing ubuntu on Macs...
[03:32] <refurb_NC_CM720> it would be really awesome to give my desktop the functionality of noaa weather radio
[03:33] <soy_el_pulpo> it was really cool, but today the have no buttons at all.. they are touch sensitive
[03:33] <terretz_> I have 3 macs
[03:34] <terretz_> and 0 mice with 1 button
[03:34] <sharpie> I'll miss Ubuntu 10.10 when you could put things on the task bar
[03:34] <terretz_> all my mouses have many buttons
[03:34] <terretz_> and scroll wheels
[03:34] <Guest3135> Terretz Thank you for that link earlier I don't know if you saw me say that
[03:34] <soy_el_pulpo> I found one in a drawer today... the orifinal apple desktop mouse
[03:34] <terretz_> Guest3135: did that work?
[03:35] <sharpie> Still can't use this new install for anything until I figure what the Update broke.
[03:35] <Guest3135> Nope I don't have that in my pluins
[03:35] <terretz_> hm
[03:35] <terretz_> annoying
[03:35] <terretz_> did you figure out the problem or is it still happening?
[03:36] <Guest3135> still happening to my knowledge it only happens every 3rd or 4th youtube I watch
[03:36] <soy_el_pulpo> but getting back, macs can do SMB, AFP, NFS, FTP, RFB, HTTP, SSH... you name it they integrate well with ubuntu and other environments
[03:36] <Guest3135> its one of those annoying problems that only  happening sporadically
[03:36] <lujuan> ...
[03:36] <Guest3135> happens*
[03:37] <terretz_> so - are these continuous videos or are you leaving youtube and going back?
[03:37] <terretz_> I'm assuming the former
[03:38] <Guest3135> I do have adobe flash but not the pepperflash the link talks about
[03:38] <Guest3135> I can watch them and hear them but every 3rd or 4th one its black and you can hear it still but the video is copmpletely black
[03:38] <sharpie> Might be the advertisement is broken
[03:39] <Guest3135> after refreshing once or twice the video works again
[03:39] <terretz_> have you tried a different browser?
[03:39] <Guest3135> lets try hold on
[03:41] <Guest3135> ya know, Firefox looks like its working, soo far that is
[03:42] <terretz_> that's what I'm reading
[03:42] <Guest3135> I'll see if uninstalling and restalling Chrome fixes it
[03:42] <terretz_> seems to be centralized around chrome
[03:42] <sharpie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1967794&page=2  Maybe this is what is causing my problem
[03:42] <terretz_> humor me for a sec
[03:42] <terretz_> see if pepperflash is in /home/my_user/.config/google-chrome
[03:42] <Guest3135> ok
[03:43] <silv3r_m00n> i installed phpmyadmin from synaptic, its installed in /usr/share/phpmyadmin, but is accessible from localhost/phpmyadmin, how ?
[03:44] <terretz_> Guest3135: type about:plugins into your url field in chrome
[03:45] <Guest3135> Ok looking at .config now
[03:45] <terretz_> see if there are more than 1 flash player
[03:47] <Guest3135> whats weird, is I only see chromium under /home/user/.config/ not google-chrome
[03:47] <Guest3135> is that the same
[03:47] <terretz_> no
[03:47] <sharpie> Considering another disto.  Can't get ubutnu to work stable.
[03:48] <terretz_> hold pleas
[03:48] <terretz_> or - read over this
[03:48] <terretz_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5721838/
[03:48] <Guest3135> also under about:plugins I see Adobe Flash Player - Version: 11.2 r202
[03:48] <zykotick9> silv3r_m00n: one is a file path, the other a url.
[03:49] <terretz_> Chromium is a beta version of Chrome (i believe)
[03:49] <silv3r_m00n> zykotick9: that i know, how is localhost/phpmyadmin mapped to that directory, in my /var/www i dont see any symlink or something like that
[03:49] <terretz_> I use it as an alt broswer when needed
[03:49] <Deepfriedice> terretz_, ugly hacks from begining to end.
[03:50] <terretz_> what what?
[03:50] <zykotick9> silv3r_m00n: check your apache config(s)
[03:51] <silv3r_m00n> zykotick9: oh ok, got it
[03:51] <silv3r_m00n> thanks
[03:51] <Guest3135> Ok cool about to do the purge flashplugin-installer
[03:51] <Guest3135> and try again
[03:53] <terretz_> ok
[03:53] <terretz_> I'd recommend installing full chrome as well
[03:53] <Guest36167> http://akk.li/pics/anne.jpg
[04:06] <bulldogggy> hello everyone
[04:06] <terretz_> howdy
[04:06] <bulldogggy> I have a laptop where the only user has someone been excluded from the sudoers group.  The machine also has an encrypted drive.  Is there away to get that user back into the sudoers group or will I have to do a reinstall?
[04:06] <bulldogggy> somehow been excluded not someone
[04:06] <Guest3135> Ok I reinstalled it using the purge thing and it looks like its working perfect now!
[04:06] <Rarrikins> bulldogggy: You can probably use a live CD, mount the drive somehow, and edit /etc/group.
[04:06] <Guest3135> Thanks Terretz_!
[04:06] <dr_willis> im not sure o the proper way to mount an encryptd drive.. but askubuntu.com may know
[04:06] <bulldogggy> Rarrikins, thanks for the suggestion.  I tried that already, but for some reason it doesn't seem to be taking the change
[04:06] <terretz_> bulldogggy: can you su root?
[04:06] <dr_willis> theres encrypted home, then encrypting the whole / drive
[04:06] <Rarrikins> bulldogggy: You could also edit a startup script that would add the user to a group.
[04:06] <bulldogggy> terretz_, nope I didn't activate the root account
[04:06] <bulldogggy> it was the drive
[04:06] <terretz_> Guest3135: What happened?
[04:06] <Rarrikins> bulldogggy: Then, all you'd have to do whenever that happened would be to reboot.
[04:06] <bulldogggy> hmmm Rarrikins do you have a link or direct me in the right direction to do that
[04:06] <Guest3135> Also while I'm looking at youtube, here's an awesome video about Linux, ignore the title though http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh-cnaJoGCw
[04:06] <bulldogggy> it is my work laptop, and I think when i added myself to the vbox users group it for whatever reason got rid of the admin group
[04:06] <Guest3135> Oh that text file you sent I did the sudo purge and updated my repos and reinstalled and it looks good now
[04:06] <Rarrikins> bulldogggy: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-how-to-run-a-command-when-boots-up.html
[04:06] <bulldogggy> and I tried for like 3 hours last week to fix it
[04:06] <terretz_> excellent
[04:06] <Rarrikins> bulldogggy: You can use addgroup in a script.
[04:06] <Guest3135> Yeah Thats what i'm thinking
[04:06] <terretz_> if it happens again - I recommend getting Google Chrome instead of Chromium
[04:06] <Guest3135> [Thanks for the help
[04:06] <bulldogggy> will that script have the proper permissions to add it?
[04:06] <terretz_> n
[04:06] <bulldogggy> during boot?
[04:06] <terretz_> np
[04:06] <Guest3135> Cool
[04:06] <bulldogggy> our could I just go into where my groups are stored and edit it from a live disc?
[04:06] <bulldogggy> I have mounted the disk on other attempts to fix the issue
[04:06] <Baahtti> Hi, so I was trying to follow steps to fix a video bug with Skype and added an i386 architecture. Now I can't fully uninstall skype because that i386 install of skype is still showing up in my dpkg. How can I find and remove this software?
[04:06] <bulldogggy> Baahtti, I believe a purge would fix that
[04:06] <terretz_> yeah - purge skype
[04:06] <bulldogggy> but not 100% certain
[04:08] <nightwolf_> this is I have tryed the ver 10.04 LTS 12.04.LTS 12.10  and 13.04 and only 11.10 and 10.10 have fully work on my toshiba lap top I have 64 bit with a intel core i3 please fix this. ubuntu team.
[04:08] <dr_willis> !bug | nightwolf_
[04:09] <Baahtti> so sudo apt-get --purge remove skype?
[04:09] <dr_willis> Baahtti:  are you sure skype is the package name?
[04:11] <Baahtti> maybe it's skype-bin. I've gotten rid of all the other skypes with "apt-get --purge remove skype" but "dpkg --list | grep -i skype" is still showing me an i386 client: "rc   skype-bin". let me try to purge that specifically
[04:11] <Rarrikins> bulldogggy: You can start the computer with the live CD, mount the drive, connect to the Internet, go to webchat.freenode.net in a browser, and ask from there.
[04:11] <Baahtti> ok yes that worked, I needed to purge "skype-bin"
[04:12] <bulldogggy> I will have to do that on Monday when I get to work
[04:12] <Rarrikins> bulldogggy: Oh, OK.
[04:12] <Baahtti> thanks for confirming I was following the right steps and helping me see more information than I was seeing before.
[04:12] <bulldogggy> I don't have it in front of me right now
[04:12] <Rarrikins> bulldogggy: My guess would be, if editing /etc/group didn't work, that the drive was mounted read-only.
[04:12] <ajhlinuxuser> Fedora IRC is not very friendly...
[04:13] <bulldogggy> that is possible I will have to check it for sure
[04:13] <Rarrikins> ajhlinuxuser: That's because Indiana Jones isn't very friendly.
[04:13] <ajhlinuxuser> I got redirected to #fedora-unregistered, then I tried talking to people there, but was banned!
[04:13] <dr_willis> i bet they dont really like Offtopic discussions either. ;)
[04:13] <ajhlinuxuser> I needed to vent.
[04:13] <dr_willis> ajhlinuxuser:  they most likely expect you to regiester your nick then join the proper channel
[04:13] <dr_willis> !regiester
[04:14] <dr_willis> !register
[04:14]  * ajhlinuxuser feels better now
[04:14] <bulldogggy> thanks Rarrikins I think just talking to you got me thinking and I think I can fix it now
[04:14] <bulldogggy> thanks
[04:14] <Rarrikins> bulldogggy: You're welcome.
[04:14] <bulldogggy> I like to think I know a little bit about linux but I am still a novice.  I learn everyday
[04:15] <b3n> question -- how do I change the font of a specific application ?
[04:15] <dr_willis> b3n:  settings in that specific app normally
[04:17] <ajhlinuxuser> As a general guide, the menuitem Edit --> Preferences would be a good start to look into changing things like font.
[04:17] <mojtaba> Hi, is there any shortcut to jump to a workstation, instead of holding alt+ctrl+arrow keys?
[04:17] <dr_willis> 'workstation' ? you mean workspace?
[04:17] <b3n> dr willis -- thanks --
[04:17] <dr_willis> press and hold the super key - to see a list of common unity shortcutss
[04:17] <mojtaba> dr_willis: yes, sorry
[04:18] <bulldogggy> I believe you can set that shortcut key to something yo ulike mojtaba
[04:18] <dr_willis> you might be able to make custome ones using  the ccsm or gnome-settings tools
[04:18] <mojtaba> bulldogggy: how can I do that?
[04:19] <bulldogggy> I am looking
[04:19] <bulldogggy> I believe its in ccsm though
[04:19] <Baahtti> so Ubuntu is a Debian kernel, right? Like, Ubuntu came from Debian?
[04:19] <Gnea> Baahtti: Ubuntu and Debian use a Linux kernel.
[04:20] <Baahtti> Gnea, forgive my improper terminology
[04:20] <bulldogggy> ubuntu comes from the debian tree, but seems to be headed in its own direction
[04:20] <dr_willis> Ubuntu uses its own  kernel setup.  with some ubuntu patches and so forth.. most disrtos do this.. and send their patches and so forth back to the main kernel
[04:20] <Gnea> Baahtti: Ubuntu uses the same package management system that Debian uses, but most packages are unique to Ubuntu
[04:20] <Baahtti> I see, thanks guys
[04:21] <dr_willis> Branches and trees  becoming their own forests. ;)
[04:21] <Gnea> it's all good, better to ask and find out than to wonder forever :-)
[04:22] <bulldogggy> Baahtti, don't worry I learn new things everyday
[04:22] <Baahtti> Alright well. I seem to be stuck in finding a solution for my issue regarding skype. So it seems to be a common bug and there are a lot of 'solutions' but none are working. In skype my webcam is inverted. Could someone help me identify specifics about my machine/hardware to aid in my search?
[04:22] <dr_willis> i imaagine in the next year or 2 - thers going to be some huge  divergance by ubuntu from  debian. ;) going to be a interesting time.
[04:22] <bulldogggy> man Baahtti I saw that issue a year or so back, I can't remember how to fix it
[04:23] <Yud_Zroc> I built a computer for my brother, but the system had issues, the installation was locking up and the system froze when installing 13.04 x64, its a medium powered system 3.4ghz quad core, 8 gigs memory, 1tb hdd space, and all the hardware checked out in the bios, gfx card is an nvidia gt 430
[04:23] <mojtaba> bulldogggy: where is ccsm?
[04:23] <dr_willis> seen the upside down cam in skype mentioned in here a few times.. but i dont recall seeing a general fix
[04:23] <bulldogggy> Baahtti, do you have cheese installed on your machine? and does your camera work right in cheese
[04:23] <dr_willis> !ccsm
[04:24] <dr_willis> Yud_Zroc:  you ran a memtest on it for a few hours?
[04:24] <Baahtti> bulldogggy, I did install it and it seems to be working just fine for me. I haven't messed with my webcam too much in other applications but Skype is definitely buggy
[04:24] <bulldogggy> ok so that tells us its something with skype itself
[04:24] <Baahtti> what commands can I run to find information about my webcam? It's an onboard webcam on an Asus laptop
[04:24] <bulldogggy> now you installed a x64 system but tried to multiarch to install skype?
[04:24] <Yud_Zroc> dr_willis: No, but the memory read appropriately in the bios, it detected the make and model number, speed and ammount
[04:25] <mojtaba> !list
[04:25] <danielocean> Hello.  I am looking at running Claws-Mail inside of a virtual machine.  Is it possible to install Ubuntu Server and run claws-mail through xorg, or do I need a full desktop environment?
[04:25] <dr_willis> Baahtti:  there used to be a  'virtual webcam'  app called 'webcamstudio' that wwould let you do all sort s of tweaks and tricks to your real webcam (or other video feeds) then have a virtual webcam the apps used showing the effects.
[04:25] <dr_willis> Yud_Zroc:  an install puts a big load on the hd and memory and other parts.. its possible it was overheating, or having memory issues under load.
[04:25] <bulldogggy> I guess we made mojtaba mad
[04:26] <Baahtti> dr_willis, that was my first thought and I was hoping cheese would be that but it wasn't. I'll search for webcamstudio, thanks.
[04:26] <somsip> danielocean: looks like claws-email needs X - http://is.gd/pNArPm
[04:27] <Yud_Zroc> dr_willis: I wonder, could it also be under powered? I am using a 400watt PSU with a phemum II, and an nvidia card...
[04:27] <dr_willis> Baahtti:  it might no longer be in development. ive not ussed it in ages
[04:27] <Baahtti> hrm
[04:27] <Yud_Zroc> dr_willis: I ran a calculator and it said It only used about 300 watts
[04:27] <Baahtti> is there a way with apt-get to just SEARCH for a package but not install it?
[04:27] <danielocean> somsip: so if I install Ubuntu server and install claws-mail from repo it should install that automatically, correct?
[04:27] <Baahtti> I mean from the commandline
[04:29] <Vivekananda> if anyone knows and can pm me of how to install axel on mac I would be very grateful
[04:29] <somsip> danielocean: theoretically, yes. Its a long chain of dependencies, but it makes sense
[04:29] <elkingrey> I'm about to install 12.04 and once it's finished I want to run update and upgrade, but I DON'T want it to upgrade to 12.10 or 13.04. How do I prevent that?
[04:29] <dr_willis> Baahtti:  apt-cache search pettern
[04:30] <dr_willis> pattern )
[04:30] <somsip> elkingrey: it won't. Upgrade to new version is a different command. do-dist-upgrade or something like that
[04:30] <elkingrey> somsip: Okay, cool. Thanks!
[04:31] <dr_willis> an lts release will only notify you of being able to  do a release-upgrade to the next LTS release by default also.
[04:31] <Baahtti> thanks dr_willis
[04:31] <danielocean> Thanks, somsip!
[04:31] <elkingrey> Nice!
[04:31] <danielocean> I'll try that now
[04:31] <heavenmaker> New on linux... Any suggetions where to start?
[04:31] <somsip> elkingrey: it's do-release-upgrade. And note, you may need to 'apt-get dist-upgrade' to get the newest kernel. This will not be a version upgrade and will be okay for you to do (with the usual caveats)
[04:31] <dr_willis> !manual | heavenmaker
[04:32] <Deepfriedice> heavenmaker: not sure if this is the right channel for this, but how new are you?
[04:32] <heavenmaker> I knw basics...
[04:32] <dr_willis> start with the ubuntu manual. then start reading up on other topics you need to know more about.
[04:32] <Deepfriedice> That doesn't really mean anything.
[04:33] <Deepfriedice> ubottu: I should bookmark that, it looks like linking to that will be handy.
[04:33] <dr_willis> ;P
[04:34] <dr_willis> they really need to make a link to that manual site on the  default desktop
[04:34] <soy_el_pulpo> lol
[04:34] <snowrichard> hi
[04:35] <soy_el_pulpo> dr_willis: replace the license by the manual so you have to read it before installing...
[04:35] <dr_willis> have the install load the manual site... as it installs.. for you to read.
[04:35] <snowrichard> just installed 12.04 on my net book lt4010u from flash drive (it has no optical drive)
[04:35] <Deepfriedice> soy_el_pulpo, that's kinda evil, it is 145 pages.
[04:36] <seronis> So my issue with converting PDFs to PNGs earlier i solved.  the specific option i needed to adjust was  -density on the input file
[04:36] <soy_el_pulpo> Deepfriedice: 395 for 12.04 lts, i have it open the pdf version
[04:36] <dr_willis> thats almost 1/2 the size of the normal Microsoft EULA!
[04:37] <Deepfriedice> soy_el_pulpo, dr_willis, Oh God.
[04:37] <dr_willis> ;P
[04:39] <soy_el_pulpo> lol
[04:40] <Baahtti> ok so I keep seeing this command "lsusb", how can I enter a terminal command to view information specific to my onboard webcam?
[04:40] <Deepfriedice> Baahtti, try lspci, then lshw
[04:44] <alfredpp> Hai... I hav msgd earlier as heavenmaker
[04:45] <alfredpp> I like to know some good tutorials for linux
[04:46] <alfredpp> i hav instaled ubuntu 12.04 on the system
[04:46] <Baahtti> I would also. I've had a look at the Linux Administrators Guide before. I like the techincal aspects of that manual, but I'm looking for something more of an introductory guide. Perhaps a booklist that would be good to check out?
[04:47] <alfredpp> Any suggetions?
[04:47] <Deepfriedice> alfredpp, That "getting started" PDF looks good. Asside from that, while there are plenty of tutorials, most are pretty bad and or out of date.
[04:47] <soy_el_pulpo> Baahtti: try this one: http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[04:48] <Deepfriedice> http://files.ubuntu-manual.org/manuals/getting-started-with-ubuntu/12.04e2/en_US/print/Getting%20Started%20with%20Ubuntu%2012.04%20-%20Second%20Edition.pdf
[04:48] <soy_el_pulpo> Baahtti: has a nice pdf version
[04:48] <Baahtti> thanks soy_el_pulpo
[04:48] <Deepfriedice> soy_el_pulpo, that one is for 13.04
[04:48] <soy_el_pulpo> ooppssss... I have the old version
[04:48] <soy_el_pulpo> 10.04 on my machine...
[04:48] <alfredpp> I have that...
[04:48] <Deepfriedice> Thats... pretty old.
[04:49] <Baahtti> I have 13.04 though, so that's helpful to me, thanks.
[04:49] <soy_el_pulpo> sorry 12.04
[04:49] <soy_el_pulpo> Deepfriedice: your link is the correct one, sorry
[04:49] <soy_el_pulpo> uuuffff, lucky
[04:51] <DaveCore82> Does anyone use Ubuntu for their work laptop in a Windows environment with everyone using Outlook/Exchange and MS Office? How do you do it?
[04:51] <_dirk_> i'm trying to run a update in the terminal and it says "could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: permission denied) E: unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[04:51] <_dirk_> how do i get back to root?
[04:52] <DaveCore82> dirk: sudo su -     ?
[04:52] <DaveCore82> dirk: or sudo bash
[04:52] <soy_el_pulpo> _dirk_: are you root?
[04:52] <Deepfriedice> DaveCore82, I know Evolution has support for Exchange.
[04:52] <soy_el_pulpo> sudo -i
[04:52] <somsip> _dirk_: just 'sudo apt-get update' is good enough
[04:53] <_dirk_> are you root? what does that mean?
[04:53] <aimee> hello
[04:53] <soy_el_pulpo> DaveCore82: do you need the advance exchange feature or just email?
[04:53] <somsip> _dirk_: you need to run apt-get with a higher level of priveleges. Just put 'sudo' before the command. that's all
[04:53] <DaveCore82> dirk: root is the almighty user on linux
[04:53] <soy_el_pulpo> _dirk_: that
[04:53] <soy_el_pulpo> lol
[04:53] <DaveCore82> soy_el_pulpo: I need calendars
[04:54] <_dirk_> ok thanx i just forgot the sudo part i guess
[04:54] <soy_el_pulpo> do they have OWA?
[04:54] <DaveCore82> soy_el_pulpo: Yeah.... but I'm afraid of OWA
[04:54] <soy_el_pulpo> DaveCore82: why? it will solve your issue with no changes required to you
[04:54] <DaveCore82> soy_el_pulpo: it's the main reason i'm not switching to a linux laptop
[04:55] <DaveCore82> soy_el_pulpo: I do so much emails, I'm afraid my productivity will drop just because of OWA
[04:55] <_dirk_> is it possible to run a few distro's on one drive without partitioning that drive into a partition for each distro?
[04:55] <somsip> _dirk_: no - they need one partition each
[04:55] <soy_el_pulpo> DaveCore82: I use my mac laptop in a mixed environment... if I need any windows only app I have a virtual machine
[04:56] <Deepfriedice> DaveCore82, Surely you can just run any email client then?
[04:56] <soy_el_pulpo> DaveCore82: you can do the same thing with a Linux laptop
[04:56] <aimee> how do you enable a proxy server on xchat?
[04:56] <Deepfriedice> aimee Settings > Preferences > Networking
[04:56] <aimee> where is this mysterious "Settings"
[04:57] <Deepfriedice> aimee, Sorry,  Settings > Preferences > Network setup
[04:57] <DaveCore82> Deepfriedice: I need the calendar and contacts, i think I need exchange support for that, no?
[04:57] <soy_el_pulpo> DaveCore82: you will get used to it... or as Deepfriedice says, use a mail client for most of the time and the OWA for your calendars...
[04:57] <soy_el_pulpo> OWA will be fine...
[04:57] <aimee> All I have is Edit -> Preferences
[04:57] <soy_el_pulpo> it has improved over time
[04:57] <Deepfriedice> DaveCore82, Yeah, I think Evolution might be able to do that.
[04:58] <Deepfriedice> aimee, It's between "Sever" and "Window"
[04:58] <aimee> I have neither
[04:58] <soy_el_pulpo> DaveCore82: I agree with Deepfriedice, there is a plugin "evolution-exchange - Exchange plugin for the Evolution groupware suite"
[04:58] <Deepfriedice> aimee, Screenshot?
[04:59] <aimee> I crashed for a second, if you replied, can you repeat yourself
[05:00] <Baahtti> I also would like to know where the old Ubuntu  "Applications | System | Settings" type options on the taskbar went. I'm on Ubuntu 13.04 and it's been since 11.04 since I last used Ubuntu and it's quite a bit different
[05:00] <DaveCore82> Unity!
[05:00] <heavenmaker> Back again
[05:01] <Baahtti> like I'm using ALT + F2 to find stuff, which is weird
[05:01] <Deepfriedice> aimee, May I see a screenshot?
[05:01] <Baahtti> I'm not knocking Unity, btw, I do think it's a good direction to head in
[05:02] <aimee> how do I send
[05:02] <Baahtti> imgur?
[05:02] <heavenmaker> GNOME 3 is a good gui
[05:02] <aimee> I'll upload to my site
[05:02] <Deepfriedice> aimee, that'll work
[05:03] <DaveCore82> do you eventually learn to like Unity? I have the feeling you need to learn to like it
[05:03] <aimee> http://media.ryansw.com/xchatscrnshot.png
[05:03] <heavenmaker> As I asked before
[05:04] <_dirk_> ubuntu lags on my machine so i'm going to try a few different distro's puppy, xbuntu, Dynebolic, maybe debian....  i would need a partition for each distro. does anyone have a suggustion for how large i should make the partitions for each distro to run efficently
[05:04] <heavenmaker> I am stuck at getting started guide.. I don't know what else
[05:05] <Axlin> DaveCore82: I suppose there is a learning curve, but it's not difficult to learn. The hard part is getting used to it. Personally, I tried it, didn't care for it, and moved back to KDE. My fairly tech-illiterate aunt absolutely loves it for its simplicity, though.
[05:05] <Baahtti> DaveCore82, the more I play around with this Unity the more I'm liking it.
[05:05] <Deepfriedice> aimee, Okay, isn't it just under the "Networks" tab then?
[05:06] <aimee> no, that is just other networks like freenode
[05:07] <DaveCore82> how are you even supposed to use unity??
[05:07] <DaveCore82> what am I missing?
[05:07] <DaveCore82> where is everything??! :)
[05:07] <heavenmaker> _dirk_ debian and fedora is a gud option
[05:08] <somsip> _dirk_: note that it may be that unity is the cause of the lag. There are plenty of other desktops out there
[05:08] <Deepfriedice> _dirk_, how much disk space do you have? I'd go for 10-20GiB
[05:09] <terretz_> Baahtti: apt-cache search *query*
[05:09] <Deepfriedice> somsip, Good point.   _dirk_ , How powerful is your machine?
[05:09] <terretz_> oh wow
[05:09] <heavenmaker> Deepfriedice 2 or 4 gb for swap too
[05:09] <terretz_> sorry - screen was scrolled waaaay up
[05:09] <_dirk_> HEAVENMAKER.....  im looking for something more lighter then ubuntu but with sexy visuals. based on that which would be better for me debian or fedora?
[05:10] <_dirk_> i have about 600 gig total of diskspace, on a 2gighrts cpu with 1 gig of ram
[05:10] <somsip> _dirk_: ubuntu with a different desktop...
[05:10] <heavenmaker> Fedora i think
[05:10] <Baahtti> terretz_, thanks.
[05:10] <_dirk_> i'm running ubuntu 12 stock, i thought that comes with gnome?
[05:10] <somsip> !unity | _dirk_
[05:11] <heavenmaker> No... It doesnt.. u have to download externaly
[05:12] <Deepfriedice> Okay, out of sheer curiosity for what counts as a " GNOME 2-like experience"; !notunity
[05:12] <_dirk_> from what ive read and seen screen shots of i think i would like KDE
[05:12] <Deepfriedice> !notunity
[05:12] <Deepfriedice> Bah.
[05:13] <Axlin> _dirk_: If "sexy visuals" matter to you and Unity is lagging, you might try Linux Mint 15 (with Cinnamon) or Kubuntu (with KDE). No guarantees that they'll perform any better than Unity, but the best way to find out is to try.
[05:13] <Deepfriedice> _dirk_, KDE is also fairly heavy. For lighter things you have DE's like XFCE and Elementry (I think)
[05:13] <heavenmaker> Kde is grt... Bt i think it uses more system resources.. in my system it was slow.. so i moved to gnome.. and it iS Awsm
[05:13] <somsip> _dirk_: Good point Axlin - sexy visuals and slower performance often go hand in hand
[05:14] <Random832> where can i find more information about this 'elementary'?
[05:14] <dr_willis> gnome 3.8 has its own official 'gnome-2' look alike mode.
[05:14] <somsip> Random832: google is useful
[05:14] <mojtaba> Does anybody have any idea about octosetup? http://www.octoshape.com/support/infinite-hd-octoshape-app/
[05:14] <Axlin> Random832: elementaryos.org
[05:14] <_dirk_> i need something light like i said but being new to linux i'm not 100% what would be best... puppy is super lite and i think KDE is too? there is so many combinations it's insane
[05:14] <dr_willis> lightest ubuntu offocial desktop would be  'lubuntu' but its a bit  minimal for some.
[05:14] <Deepfriedice> Yeah, Cinnamon and Mate might count as "middle-weight" as well.
[05:15] <Axlin> Actually Elementary could be another one to look into _dirk_
[05:15] <somsip> _dirk_: it's choice. And you can't compare a distro (puppy) with a desktop environment and make a fair comparison
[05:15] <dr_willis> _dirk_:   puppy linux is very.. weird.. and  i would suggest only if your hardware cant support a more normal disrto
[05:15] <kazak> hey, can someone help explain how to install .tar.gz's?
[05:15] <dr_willis> you can setup an almost identical desktop to puppy on ubuntu.
[05:15] <somsip> kazak: what are you trying to install?
[05:15] <Deepfriedice> kazak, Oh boy.
[05:15] <_dirk_> the only thing that might be kinda out of date is my video hardware
[05:15] <dr_willis> kazak:  they are compessed archives.. if you mean compile SOURCE code.. thats one thing
[05:16] <kazak> the media player nightingale
[05:16] <dr_willis> _dirk_:  i would suggest trying lubuntu
[05:16] <mojtaba> Does anybody have any idea about octosetup? http://www.octoshape.com/support/infinite-hd-octoshape-app/
[05:16] <somsip> !patience | mojtaba
[05:16] <kazak> i'm in the terminal and i cd'd to the folder it's in
[05:16] <dr_willis> kazak:  if its precompiled binaries.. extract the file.. cd to its dir it made.. and run the binary
[05:16] <dr_willis>  ./whateveritscalled
[05:16] <Deepfriedice> dr_willis, _dirk_ , That might be a bit far in the other direction. How about Xubuntu?
[05:16] <Axlin> kazak: Check for a readme first
[05:17] <dr_willis> i dont use xubuntu,  if i want light - i use lubuntu. :)
[05:17] <somsip> kazak: or the website for the package, which is why I'm asking what you are trying to install
[05:17] <kazak> somsip: the music player nightingale
[05:17] <kazak> no readme that i see
[05:17] <dr_willis> if its compiled bianries. you can extract/run it without 'installing'
[05:18] <somsip> kazak: there is a PPA which might make it easier for you, but.....
[05:18] <somsip> !ppa | kazak
[05:18] <dr_willis> look at the files in the archice.. see whats  there.
[05:19] <_dirk_> i'm downloading xubuntu right now... what are the major differences between L and X?
[05:19] <kazak> dr_willis: there's something called "nightingale-bin"
[05:19] <somsip> _dirk_: one uses XFCE and one uses LXDE
[05:19] <dr_willis> if its executalb erun it..
[05:19] <dr_willis> run it
[05:19] <kazak> it isn't running though
[05:20] <aimee> I found my problem
[05:20] <dr_willis> ./whatever-its-called
[05:20] <aimee> I was using gnome x-chat
[05:20] <kazak> it says it's an executable, but it won't open
[05:20] <_dirk_> but you can switch our for differnt enviroments on L and X right ?
[05:20] <Deepfriedice> _dirk_, LXDE is barely a DE, it's basically Openbox with some tools and some configuration done. Light, but  pretty minimal.
[05:21] <eruditehermit> v
[05:21] <dr_willis>  _dirk_  select the one to use at login.. itss trivial to change
[05:21] <kazak> nevermind, i got it working
[05:21] <kazak> thanks
[05:21] <mojtaba> Does anybody have any idea about octosetup? http://www.octoshape.com/support/infinite-hd-octoshape-app/
[05:21] <_dirk_> LXDE is so minimal i probably wouldn't like it then? does it use the apt manager
[05:22] <Deepfriedice> _dirk_, XFCE is a bit heavier then LXDE, but it's more featured as well. I think it's actually pretty similar to XP in some ways, but that's just me. It's also probably my personal favorite.
[05:22] <somsip> _dirk_: ubunut uses the apt manager. The desktop site on top of ubuntu
[05:22] <ryan-c> I like XFCE
[05:22] <dr_willis> _dirk_:  they all use apt
[05:23] <ryan-c> but I also use awesomewm at work which few people like
[05:23] <somsip> _dirk_: I'll try that again with better spelling. Ubuntu uses the apt manager. The desktop sits on top of ubuntu
[05:23] <Axlin> _dirk_: You'll be using APT regardless of the environment you use if you're going to running something Ubuntu-based. But yeah, if you want pretty visuals and such, you won't care much for LXDE. It can look nice, but it's pretty barebones
[05:23] <dr_willis> puppy linux uses rox-filer and jwm  last i looked.
[05:23] <Deepfriedice> APT isn't part of the DE.
[05:23] <somsip> ryan-c: +1 for awesome
[05:23] <_dirk_> does they both use software center? and does the software vary or can you get the same applications as ubuntu on both
[05:24] <ryan-c> I have foot pedals for that computer and a keyboard i hacked a trackpoint into
[05:24] <dr_willis> _dirk_:  software center is just one of many froent ends to the apt ssystem
[05:24] <ryan-c> and a 16 key macro pad
[05:24] <dr_willis> _dirk_:  they can all run the same apps
[05:24] <Rarrikins> You can use compton to give a few simple graphical effects (shadows on windows, translucency, etc.) on LXDE.
[05:25] <_dirk_> can you change your terminal to pacman for example running any of the ubuntu family os?
[05:25] <somsip> _dirk_: pacman is the Arch linux package maintainer. The quesiton makes no sense
[05:25] <Deepfriedice> mojtaba, what on earth is that? The website is incomprehensible.
[05:25] <dr_willis> paman? the arch package manager? thaats not a terminal
[05:26] <mojtaba> Deepfriedice: I am not sure, I was going to watch a site, and it asked me to install it.
[05:26] <dr_willis> time to just pick a desktop and stat using i,t to lean it.. ;)
[05:26] <_dirk_> ok, i'm trying to read as much as i can about all this instead of asking stupid questions in here but there only so much my brain can absorb in one day... ive been doing this all day
[05:27] <Rarrikins> In apt-get, pacman is a Pacman game.
[05:28] <_dirk_> i'm on a website that helps you pick the distro most suitable for your pc and your needs and it asks which package manager i prefer but i've only used apt so i don't know what to choose lol
[05:28] <Rarrikins> _dirk_: You can use apt-get (the standard package manager here) in any of them, though.
[05:29] <Axlin> APT, then. Go with what you're familiar with for now.
[05:29] <dr_willis> ubuntu will work well (or one of its variants) for most people.
[05:29] <dr_willis> its trivial to instgall the xubuntu/xfce and lubuntu/lxde desktops all on top of ubuntu, so youc an try out all 3 desktops  with  ease.
[05:30] <dr_willis> if you want to get ffancier - you can rollup your own desktop setup with other window managers and file managers and tools.
[05:31] <Deepfriedice> Rarrikins, Not true, APT only works on debian package based distros.
[05:31] <mojtaba> What is the difference between debian and ubuntu?
[05:31] <Rarrikins> Deepfriedice: Oh, I meant any of the Ubuntu-based distributions.
[05:32] <Deepfriedice> Rarrikins, Yeah, but whatever site _dirk_ is looking at probably covers more than that.
[05:32] <Rarrikins> Deepfriedice: Ahh, I see.
[05:33] <DaveCore82> mojtaba: ubuntu is based on debian
[05:33] <Deepfriedice> mojtaba, Debian is more stable than Ubuntu, but the packages can be out-of-date. Ubuntu is aimed at new users, Debian is aimed at servers.
[05:33] <Deepfriedice> Roughly.
[05:33] <mojtaba> Deepfriedice: thanks
[05:37] <_dirk_> the website explains fedora as A very capable distro for an experienced Linux user who's going through a mid-life crisis. What the hell is that supposed to mean?
[05:38] <Deepfriedice> Wait, What?
[05:38] <Rarrikins> _dirk_: It probably means that the distribution is faking being young.
[05:38] <Axlin> Heh, not really sure... but I suspect it's referring to how Fedora is fairly bleeding edge, so you get all the brand-spanking, shiny new software to play with.
[05:39] <_dirk_> well that would speak to me more the debian then... it says debian is geared more toward servers too
[05:41] <Axlin> Technically Debian can be geared toward end-users, too. They have testing/unstable branches where you can get *much* newer software than their stable release. But since you sound fairly new to Linux, you may want to stick with something Ubuntu-based.
[05:41] <Axlin> Ubuntu strikes a decent middle ground between having stable software and new software. Go too bleeding edge and you can find your system unstable.
[05:41] <_dirk_> if debian is kinda behinde the time when it comes to software why is all the apps that i seem interested in made for debian example studio 64, muse
[05:42] <_dirk_> is fedora ubuntu based?
[05:43] <Axlin> Debian is the foundation for Ubuntu and all things Ubuntu-derived. It makes it arguably the most influential parent OS in the Linux world. And no, Fedora is not.
[05:44] <_dirk_> oh jesus... i can decide the color socks i'm going to wear from day to day
[05:44] <_dirk_> i cant decide sorry
[05:45] <Axlin> You mentioned earlier that you liked how KDE looked in screenshots. Just give Kubuntu a try, then. See how it goes.
[05:46] <_dirk_> AXLIN... your the man....
[05:47] <Axlin> If you don't like it, two others I would suggest trying would include Linux Mint 15 and Elementary OS. I'm sure one of those will suit your fancy. And they're all Ubuntu based.
[05:49] <_dirk_> ive been trying to find out the system requirments to run musicx, artistx and tango studio...  will they run decent on my machine 2gig CPU/ 1gig RAM/
[05:51] <_dirk_> one more audiophile?
[05:51] <Deepfriedice> Never heard of them.
[05:51] <_dirk_> i guess i wont know unless i test drive em
[05:52] <walltender> My  ubuntu works fine for quite some time, no until recently I got this "modem manager caught signal shutdown" error which halts my shutdown. What confuse me is I didn't do a system update recently. Only installed tlp, which I have uninstalled already. The problem still exists. Google says it's a system bug, but that bug never occurs before? And I'd want to track down the real cause.
[05:55] <ajhlinuxuser> walltender: I have seen that sometimes, but it is hidden behind the Ubuntu logo.
[05:56] <_dirk_> PAE kernel uses 4 gig or ram or non PAE uses 4 gig of ram?
[05:56] <FrozenFire> Anyone happen to know whether it's possible to transfer a purchase made in the Software Centre from one account to another? I bought the game "Bastion" a while back, but was apparently signed into the wrong account at the time. I need to move my purchase to my actual account.
[05:56] <ajhlinuxuser> walltender: perhaps something else has gone wrong, and you are seeing that message now because the spash screen has cleared away.
[05:58] <_dirk_> MINT 15 uses PAE kernel... i cant remeber which is which...  but i only have 1 gig or ram so it suggests using MINT 13 MAYA LTS instead...
[05:58] <Axlin> _dirk_: PAE = 36 bit, which means the system can access up to 64 GB, but applications are restricted to 4 maximum. With 1 GB it won't matter either way.
[05:58] <walltender> ajhlinuxuser: Em, only during shutdown. It just halts there. Where do I go trouble shooting?
[05:59] <walltender> ajhlinuxuser: shutdown -r now wouldn't even shut down.
[06:00] <qin> Axlin: 36 bit?
[06:03] <Axlin> PAE increases the physical address size from 32 to 36 bits.
[06:03] <_dirk_> oh that's awesome mint offers the OS in KDE , XFCE , FLUXbox, LXDE... that's so cool man...
[06:04] <dr_willis> _dirk_:  ubuntu does the  same thing basically
[06:04] <qin> Axlin: just reading, cool point to know
[06:06] <seyfer> hello world
[06:07] <Rarrikins> The world does not respond.
[06:07] <seyfer> :)
[06:11] <sam113101> anyone using the magic trackpad here?
[06:12] <dr_willis> hmm... that sounds  almost... dirty.. it is 2 am here.. so im tired..    ;^)
[06:12] <dr_willis> you mean that apple touchpad thinggie?
[06:12] <sam113101> yes
[06:13] <sam113101> I wonder if it works on ubuntu, and if so, if it works just as on a mac
[06:13] <dr_willis> i wonder how much apple paid the marketing team that came up with the term 'magic' anything... ;P
[06:14] <dr_willis> sam113101:  id say check askubuntu.com to see how well it works . if at all
[06:14] <dr_willis> i cant recall seeing anyone else in here asking about it
[06:16] <_dirk_> if i install Mint with the KDE am i stuck with that enviroment or is changing it simple...
[06:17] <kkerwin> Hi. Anyone familiar with a portable form of disk encryption that would be installable on a flash drive, and runnable on Windows/Mac/*nix systems without admin priveledges?
[06:18] <soy_el_pulpo> !bot
[06:18] <Myrtti> kkerwin: sounds like a job for truecrypt.
[06:18] <soy_el_pulpo> why my nick has parenthesis?
[06:19] <Myrtti> kkerwin: but it might need admin privs tho
[06:19] <kkerwin> Myrtti: Damn.
[06:20] <_dirk_> Dr. Willis... if i choose one enviroment on the mint download am i stuck with it or can i change without re-installing
[06:21] <Ari-Yang> _dirk_, you can switch between DEs
[06:24] <Rarrikins> kkerwin: You can probably get 7-zip programs for each that don't need to be installed, but the computers can record the data and your password.
[06:24] <dr_willis> _dirk_:  i suggest using ubuntu. not mint.
[06:24] <morteza> hi
[06:25] <dr_willis> _dirk_:  and the way linux is designed. makes it rather trivial to change desktops
[06:25] <morteza> I need an application can run in terminal that can teach typing
[06:25] <Rarrikins> kkerwin: http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/29375/is-7-zips-aes-encryption-just-as-secure-as-truecrypts-version
[06:25] <kkerwin> Myrtti and Rarrikins: Problem is work computers. I don't have administrative priveledges, and I won't get admin priveledges to install unapproved software for corporate purposes. Corporate are asshats on that one, but I have to oblige.
[06:25] <Rarrikins> kkerwin: You can get standalone programs that don't need to be installed.
[06:26] <kkerwin> Rarrikins: That sounds good. Can I make container files that will inflate as I add stuff to them, or do I need to encrypt each file separately?
[06:28] <Rarrikins> kkerwin: You can add files to and remove files from 7-zip arbitrarily as long as it's not a solid archive.
[06:28] <kkerwin> Rarrikins: I do not understand.
[06:28] <_Dirk_> my connection was lost, cuase my phone died.... i didn't get to see the answer to my question... DR Willis if you answered me can you please repost...
[06:30] <Rarrikins> kkerwin: Nonsolid 7z archives will inflate as you add things to them.
[06:31] <kkerwin> Rarrikins: I do not understand 'non-solid'; apologies for being unclear before.
[06:31] <dr_willis> _dirk_:  i suggest using ubuntu. not mint.
[06:31] <dr_willis> _dirk_:  and the way linux is designed. makes it rather trivial to change desktops
[06:32] <kkerwin> Rarrikins: Never mind; Google helped.
[06:32] <Rarrikins> kkerwin: Oh, OK :)
[06:33] <kkerwin> Rarrikins: Thank you for your help. I appreciate it.
[06:33] <Rarrikins> kkerwin: You're welcome.
[06:34] <j5sa_> hello all
[06:35] <j5sa_> can i download ubuntu server packages (i.e. lamp, and zoneminder) onto my ubuntu desktop machine and run it as a psuedo server/desktop?
[06:36] <kkerwin> Rarrikins: Know of a good Linux frontend to p7zip? Ark seems to work, but doesn't seem to support encryption.
[06:36] <anand_> I have network problem, when I start pc it says waiting for network configuration and i have to wait for 60 sec. it can't connect to my broadband even its connected and up , running
[06:36] <anand_> I have 12.04 installed
[06:36] <thechris> what grub flags allow for more debug info when the live USB disk won't boot?
[06:36] <anand_> where should I look ?
[06:36] <dr_willis> desktop can run services  j5sa_
[06:36] <thechris> eg, displays a black screen after grub
[06:36] <fluffybunnyuk_> hi guys what can u tell me about upstart?
[06:37] <j5sa_> awesome! thank you much DR
[06:37] <dr_willis> !upstart
[06:37] <fluffybunnyuk_> im looking for an init alternative you see
[06:37] <dr_willis> j5sa_:  theres really not a lot of differances betwen desktop and server except the installed apps
[06:38] <fluffybunnyuk_> does it work well?
[06:38] <dr_willis> fluffybunnyuk_:  most disrtros are moveing to that new one..  i forget its name...
[06:38] <dr_willis> ubuntu eventually plans on moving to it as well from that ive seen in the blogs.. but that may be a year or more away
[06:38] <dr_willis> arch is using it now.. and i cent recall its name...
[06:39] <j5sa_> _dr, i didnt there was, but i wanted to be sure before i proceeded. thanks again.
[06:39] <Rarrikins> kkerwin: the p7zip package includes the 7zr command.
[06:39] <dr_willis> upstart works ok -  its been in use by ubuntu for some time now,.
[06:39] <aeon-ltd> systemd
[06:40] <fluffybunnyuk_> yeah not sure i want systemd tho im running away from suse not towards it :D
[06:40] <dr_willis> yea.. systemd seems like such a. bland name,. l)
[06:40] <dr_willis> i imagine in 5 years systemd will be used by most.. but we will see
[06:40] <Rarrikins> kkerwin: http://p7zip.sourceforge.net/
[06:40] <SecretFire> how can I mount something that shows up in lsusb?
[06:41] <dr_willis> !mount
[06:41] <dr_willis> with the proper mount command SecretFire
[06:41] <fluffybunnyuk_> thx i'll have to give it alot more thought
[06:41] <SecretFire> dr_willis : all I have is the information from lsusb
[06:41] <dr_willis> sudo mount /dev/sdXX  /media/make-a-dir  -o options needed
[06:41] <kkerwin> Rarrikins: Ok. Thank you. Presently running the portable windows version on the target drive under wine for a test drive of what it will be like on the work machine. Runs surprisingly smoothly, considering. Will look at that as a native solution, however.
[06:41] <dr_willis> it has to have a device name in /dev/ or else you are not going to be doing much or anything with it..
[06:42] <SecretFire> dr_willis, how can i see /dev
[06:42] <dr_willis> ls /dev/
[06:42] <dr_willis> a read of that MOUnt wiki page.. is worth the time.....
[06:42] <aeon-ltd> dr_willis: with canonical pushing unity and an alternative to X, i would be surprised if they made a alternative to upstart too
[06:43] <aeon-ltd> *wouldn't
[06:43] <dr_willis> aeon-ltd: i recall seing some discussion abvout eventually moving away from upstart to systemd. but we know how ubuntu is about such things...
[06:43] <dr_willis> drag it out, drag it out more.... NOW hurry and change! ;)
[06:43] <artiken> :)
[06:44] <rosco_y> can anyone tell me how to install twiki?
[06:44] <dr_willis> i think in evolution science terms - thats 'puncuated equilbrieum'   - long time of no changes.. then a huge change quicky
[06:44] <Rarrikins> kkerwin: Oh, OK.
[06:44] <dr_willis> !info twiki
[06:44] <dr_willis> whats twiki?
[06:44] <fluffybunnyuk_> i built my own distro .so i yanked bits from everywhere its sort of a hardened ubfedsuslackdebtoo :p
[06:45]  * dr_willis uses tiddlywiki
[06:45] <DaveCore82> fluffybunnyuk_: not sure I like that name
[06:45] <fluffybunnyuk_> lol how wud u write it DaveCore82?
[06:45] <aeon-ltd> fluffOS
[06:45] <dr_willis> 'FrankenDisrto'
[06:46] <DaveCore82> aeon-ltd: agree
[06:46] <fluffybunnyuk_> haha great idea
[06:46] <DaveCore82> fluffybunnyuk_: I would totally switch distro to fluffOS right now
[06:46] <aeon-ltd> DaveCore82: but your only support is one other user
[06:46]  * dr_willis goes back to HannaMontanaLinux  ;P
[06:47] <dr_willis> Rolling your own disrto is so... 2011
[06:47] <dr_willis> ;P
[06:47] <artiken> MulliganOS / ChopSueyOS / HacknSlashOS / . .. FluffyOS still sounds the best to me.
[06:47] <fluffybunnyuk_> ive been doing it for 15 years now
[06:48] <aeon-ltd> dr_willis: like that xkcd about creating the best standard
[06:48] <fluffybunnyuk_> besides ive taken the time to write things in like stack protector to obscure return addresses on the stack :D
[06:48] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[06:48] <DaveCore82> http://xkcd.com/927/
[06:48] <fluffybunnyuk_> hard to get that out of the box
[06:48] <dr_willis> just dont use  "FurryOS"
[06:49] <fluffybunnyuk_> haha wud the box have to be wrapped in a fur :D
[06:49] <raddy> Bluetooth linkkeys file is empty even after pairing device.
[06:49] <raddy> What can i do?
[06:49] <raddy> I am using ubuntu 13
[06:49] <anand_> I have installed Ubuntu 12.04. When I start PC it says Waiting for network configuration and I have to wait for 60 seconds. What to do If I want to disable that message. I have followed this link : http://avinashtechie.wordpress.com/2012/01/09/disabling-pppoe-connection-in-ubuntu-at-boot-time/ but it seems not to be working.
[06:49] <anand_> Earlier I have installed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE to connect with my broadband.
[06:50] <SecretFire> dr_willis : Im having trouble mounting my android phone to linux it is recognized by lsusb but nothing happens when i plug it in. It was working a few days ago and mounting just fine
[06:50] <histo> anand_: do you have a device configured to obtain an ip address in /etc/network/interfaces
[06:51] <artiken> Change your clocks back to yesterday and everything will be fine. <jk>
[06:51] <dr_willis> SecretFire:  i just  use  airdroid thesedays on android. beats running a usb cable.
[06:51] <DaveCore82> artiken: yeah its the june 1st bug
[06:52] <raddy>  Anybody saw my message?
[06:52] <artiken> 35 yrs and not much has changed.
[06:52] <dr_willis> SecretFire:  the android mtp  stuff can be a pain.
[06:52] <histo> raddy: yes
[06:53] <DaveCore82> this is my favorite xkcd. http://xkcd.com/353/   I'm totally feeling like that these days
[06:53] <Baahtti> So I just briefed "Getting Started with Ubuntu 13.04" and mostly it just helped me to find some software which I quite likely will want and I have installed them. I'm looking for a more advanced guide, like the "Linux Administrators Guide" but a little more beginner friendly like the "Getting Started". Specifically, I'm interested in learning about how to utilize my terminal.
[06:53] <anand_> hista: yes
[06:54] <clcto> DaveCore82: i like the scrollable one
[06:54] <anand_> hosta: the content is
[06:54] <anand_> auto eth0
[06:54] <anand_> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[06:54] <SecretFire> dr_willis : you have to have a wifi connection right?
[06:54] <SecretFire> dr_willis : i am trying to use google drive
[06:54] <dr_willis> SecretFire: yes.
[06:54] <DaveCore82> clcto: yeah that one was amazing... I think I spent 30 minutes looking at it
[06:55] <clcto> DaveCore82: thats it?
[06:55] <clcto> !yt friday
[06:55] <dr_willis> i dont see how  google drive is related to the question then..
[06:56] <SecretFire> well I can use it to transfer files i thought, but it is failing each time i transfer to the phone
[06:56] <DaveCore82> clcto: I had work to do !
[06:56] <Kaushik_> Hi, whats the best xml editor
[06:56] <SomeoneWeird> Ok so I installed 13.04 yesterday, played around with it etc, updated, installed all my stuff that i'm used to. Then I went to bed, now i've just woken up to a broken unity (or gnome?) and i'm not sure how to fix it. http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/6590/screenshotfrom201306011.png Anyone got any suggestions?
[06:57] <dr_willis> try dropbox or copy.com or ubuntu one  perhaps  SecretFire
[06:57] <SecretFire> ok
[06:57] <pizzahutofmexico> Bounjour, Pizza hut of Mexico is giving away free Belgum Waffles with every 3 orders of spicy indian food.
[06:57] <DaveCore82> SomeoneWeird: You just have to put the TV channel to 3, happens all the time to my aunt
[06:57] <aeon-ltd> are you kidding me
[06:57] <SomeoneWeird> DaveCore82, lul
[06:57] <dr_willis> !best | Kaushik_
[06:58] <SomeoneWeird> It's like the desktop isn't redraw()ing, so all the windows are becoming ghosts
[06:58] <Kaushik_>  thanks ubottu.
[06:59] <Baahtti> SomeoneWeird, just curious, you tried rebooting already, right?
[06:59] <anand_> is ubuntu 13 is faster than 12 ?
[06:59] <SomeoneWeird> Baahtti, yeah, and i've installed AMDs drivers with no luck, too
[06:59] <anand_> boot time ?
[06:59] <dr_willis> is for me anand_
[07:00] <anand_> yes
[07:00] <anand_> dr
[07:01] <Baahtti> SomeoneWeird, so you got the AMD drivers installed then or the installation of those drivers failed?
[07:01] <dr_willis> 14 sec to 12 sec....  gotta love ssd drives...
[07:01] <anand_> great
[07:01] <anand_> dr: thanks
[07:02] <dr_willis> 5± weeks of uptine make boottime trivial
[07:02] <SomeoneWeird> Baahtti, I had the Xorg opensource drivers when it started happening, so I installed the AMD ones to see if it would fix it
[07:04] <Baahtti> SomeoneWeird, It looks like you've customized the 'theme' somewhat. Is this the case or is the color-scheme due to the malfunction?
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> is it possible to make an usb stick boot with both ubuntu 32bit and 64bit, so one can choose wich architecture?
[07:06] <Baahtti> I'm wondering if perhaps you've installed something like compiz and it is causing issues.
[07:06] <Baahtti> lotuspsychje, I know that you can add architectures from the commandline
[07:06] <SomeoneWeird> Baahtti, malfunction
[07:06] <SomeoneWeird> it might be
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> Baahtti: well would be interesting to have both on 1 usb stick
[07:08] <Baahtti> SomeoneWeird, hrm, I'm not even certain how to go about it, but I wonder if you restore to the default theme settings if the issues would go away. Perhaps try to start there and see if it may be your themeing causing the issue?
[07:09] <darkapp> hey #ubuntu
[07:10] <darkapp> i just downloaded mint 15 and im having some problems
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> !mint | darkapp
[07:10] <darkapp> ya no one answered there, and i figure, well u know
[07:10] <darkapp> ubuntu is kind of the same thing
[07:10] <darkapp> as mint
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> darkapp: well if it isnt supported, we cant help you with mint...
[07:12] <histo> darkapp: try in #linux
[07:12] <histo> actually ##linux
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> darkapp: il be happy to support your problem when you install ubuntu 13.04, you should try it!
[07:12] <darkapp> lotuspsychje: i plan on it
[07:12] <darkapp> through a vm
[07:13] <darkapp> but first i need mint to be working properly
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> darkapp: its rocketfast
[07:15] <toxicFork> hi, i'm using compiz on ubuntu but i don't know what's causing this issue: I want key commands like alt tab to be sent to teamviewer when it's fullscreen, but it's being handled and then it does not get sent to the application
[07:16] <toxicFork> is it possible to "fix" that?
[07:16] <walltender> Which log file do I need to provide on ubuntu forum to get help for my system shutdown error?
[07:17] <artiken> My Windows System 7 machine keeps crashing. What should I do? LOL. Duh. I know. I'll ask the Ubuntu guys. I wonder what they will say? LOL. BTW I switched from Suse to Ubuntu. Even the family loves it.
[07:17] <histo> walltender: what error are you receiving?
[07:18] <_Dirk_> i really want gnu artist distro based on the xubuntu 8....  it's perfect but with my phone being the only internet connection i can't download it unless i can find the torrent.... unfortunatly i can't find the torrent
[07:18] <walltender> histo: modem manager caught signal shutdown, google says it's system error, but I don't get this before and I didn't do system update either.
[07:20] <_Dirk_> is there anyway to download this gnuartist thru the terminal???
[07:21] <aeon-ltd> _Dirk_: wget?
[07:22] <aeon-ltd> _Dirk_: rtorrent is a cli torrent client
[07:22] <iceroot> _Dirk_: wget  for http, rtorrent for torrent
[07:22] <anand_> I have posted a question in askubuntu.com
[07:22] <anand_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/302730/network-problem-in-ubuntu-12-04
[07:23] <anand_> can anybody give answer ?
[07:23] <anand_> please
[07:23] <_Dirk_> i'm not sure what your talking about aeon-ltd and iceroot... can you dumb it down for me
[07:23] <iceroot> _Dirk_: you asked how to download something from the cli
[07:23] <auronandace> _Dirk_: derivatives are not supported here, only proper ubuntu distros
[07:23] <aeon-ltd> _Dirk_: you can use rtorrent to download stuff using terminal
[07:25] <aeon-ltd> anand_: i remember doing something like that when i installed ubuntu server to a laptop, i forgot how i got it working but i'm currently using wicd to manage connections though that might not be relevant at all
[07:25] <_Dirk_> it's a xubuntu distro??? isnt' that close enough? and the question is pertaining to how to dowload something using ubuntu....  wow
[07:25] <iceroot> _Dirk_: wget http://linuxfreedom.com/gnuartist/gnuArtist-lite_10.04.2_i386.iso
[07:25] <iceroot> _Dirk_: its based on ubuntu 10.04 so its EOL and will not get security updates anymore
[07:26] <iceroot> _and its also not supported here, we only support official ubuntu versions
[07:26] <anand_> aeon: is wicd good to use for network
[07:26] <anand_> ?
[07:27] <_Dirk_> iceroot... i'm trying to download it normaly at the same link you provided but i'm using a smart phone with a connection speed of 11m/s so it's saying 3 days
[07:27] <aeon-ltd> anand_: i like it, though i don't use it for anything other than connectioning via wifi
[07:27] <iceroot> _Dirk_: the file is 1.4GByte
[07:28] <auronandace> _Dirk_: seriously, why don't you use ubuntu studio instead?
[07:28] <walltender> No one?
[07:28] <auronandace> !studio | _Dirk_
[07:28] <iceroot> _Dirk_: i would not suggest to use gnuartist because its EOL
[07:28] <anand_> aeon-ltd: thanks I will take look of it. I have couple of softwares for that but fail so scar to use new
[07:29] <iceroot> _Dirk_: http://ubuntustudio.org/download/
[07:29] <_Dirk_> my graphics card is to old i think... i'm lagging trying to watch an video's even on my hard drives... i'm never going to be able to edit anything
[07:29] <anand_> hi
[07:30] <echoe> dirk what graphics card do you have/
[07:30] <anand_> 05hi
[07:30] <_Dirk_> what's EOL mean?   my graphic card is built on my mother board and i have no idea... i don't know what program to run thru ubuntu to tell me
[07:31] <auronandace> _Dirk_: end of life, no longer supported whatsoever
[07:31] <dr_willis> time to learn about your hardware sounds like...
[07:31] <viper155> Hello, can't connect as memory storage my galaxy s3 with jelly bean 4.1.2 to ubuntu 12 because samsung disabled menu entry "connect as mass storage"
[07:31] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  look at the 'lspci' command  output
[07:32] <dr_willis> viper155:  i belive you use the MTP method. or i perfer to use AIRDROID for my s3
[07:32] <dr_willis> viper155:  and using mtp may require some tweaking/scripts  the omgubuntu and webupd8 sitgte had some guides on it
[07:32] <dr_willis> airdoid is  much easier to use. then fighting with mtp.
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> is there a package that can work with oovoo?
[07:33] <iceroot> viper155: google disabled it. its disabled on all new android devices because of microsoft. they have rights for fat filesystem and every smartphone will cost 5$ licence to microsoft, because of that google is not using fat anymore but ext. so you have to mount it with mtp
[07:33] <viper155> Dr willis need a router to ude airdroid and data via 3g
[07:33] <dr_willis> viper155:  so? if you want to use MTP over usb cable.. you WILL need to  find some guides to learn what you need to install/do/ it wont be automatic
[07:34] <viper155> I don't want to spend traffic data to connect phone in the same room! Absurd
[07:34] <dr_willis> at least not for 12.04 or 12.10
[07:34] <_Dirk_> http://imagebin.org/259786
[07:34]  * dr_willis got a wireless router for $7 the other day...
[07:34] <dr_willis> i dont need 3g to use airdroid
[07:34] <viper155> Right
[07:34] <viper155> You'r right
[07:35] <viper155> But need router
[07:35] <dr_willis> mtp support is only  recently been added to the latest release.. and im not even sure it works well in 13.04 yet.
[07:35] <viper155> Under windos via kies i can via usb
[07:35] <_Dirk_> on a sprint rooted phone you don't spend any extra money on data
[07:35] <dr_willis> youmay need to look up the mtp guides and do the mounting via script/hand, not automatically
[07:36] <viper155> Uff... so complicated..
[07:36] <dr_willis> you asked how.. thats how..
[07:36] <area51pilot> Anybody know of loading touch to a Verizon HTC phone?
[07:36] <viper155> I think i will buy  router
[07:36] <dr_willis> MTP is not fully automatic yet.
[07:36] <dr_willis> Now you know why i keep suggesting airdroid and a router. ;)
[07:36] <_Dirk_> can anyone look at that imagebin file and tell me what graphics card i have?
[07:37] <viper155> Yes yes thank you guys ;-)
[07:37] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  are you on a ubuntu live cd right now? or what os exactly?
[07:37] <auronandace> _Dirk_: no offence but you are not going to be able to do much with that ancient nvidia graphics
[07:37] <viper155> Dr willis cant send from pc to phone via bt but not vice-versa
[07:38] <viper155> From phone to pc i can
[07:38] <dr_willis> viper155:  i picked up a low end wireless only router - that looks  like a 'wall wart' dc adaptor ;)  its only 150 speed.. but handy to have on the road.\\
[07:38] <auronandace> _Dirk_: bottom line is that your computer is simply going to get less useful rather quickly
[07:38] <_Dirk_> i installed ubuntu 12 from wubi straight onto my c drive next to windows.... i plan to format c and install ubuntu or whatever correctly once i find out which distro i want
[07:38] <dr_willis> viper155:  for android i find that some of the 3rd party BT apps/rile managers work nbetter then the default tools
[07:38] <dr_willis> but I also find BT very very slow.
[07:39] <area51pilot> Bluetooth transfer issues viper?
[07:39] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  if you got the ubuntu 12.x iso file from the wubi instlall sstilll downloaded.. that would be an ok one to use.
[07:39] <viper155> Area51 yes cant send from pc
[07:40] <_Dirk_> i biult this machine in 2001 and it was top of the line!!!!  but i know i need to uprade... truth is i cant afford it... i'm stealing power illegally just to turn the machine on... to be honest
[07:40] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  there are some guides out on converting  wubi install to a 'norma;l' install also
[07:40] <dr_willis> 2001? I wonder if my RaspberryPi has more powar ;)
[07:40] <area51pilot> I had to install blueman  then out started working fine
[07:41] <_Dirk_> well being that you see my problem with my graphics card that's why i'm searchin a lighter distro
[07:41] <area51pilot> Had the issue in 12.10 & 13.04 viper
[07:41] <viper155> Dr willis anothrr solution is to boot win and use kied or unmonut microsd and connect to pc via adapter because i dont need to tranfers huge files every day
[07:41] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  lightest ubuntu variant wwill be Lubuntu.   other then that.. anything lighter will be non-ubuntu based.
[07:41] <viper155> Area51 galxy s3?
[07:41] <dr_willis> or rolling your own ubuntu mini install
[07:41] <_Dirk_> thing is i have no problems watching anything on xp.... but i hate windows and my mac book just got stollen
[07:41] <auronandace> _Dirk_: if lubuntu doesn't do it for you then you could install the mini.iso and install something like fluxbox
[07:42] <area51pilot> What about out Viper?
[07:42] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  if you dont have the right 3d/video card drivers installed for the card. that will make things sluggish
[07:42] <viper155> Send from pc to gslaxy s3
[07:42] <area51pilot> *it
[07:42] <viper155> Via bt
[07:42] <viper155> I cant
[07:42] <_Dirk_> i turned to ubuntu because i'm sick of installing drivers
[07:42] <area51pilot> I had an HTC and Samsung viper
[07:43] <_Dirk_> how do i know if i have the correct drivers installed with ubuntu
[07:43] <area51pilot> There are a bunch of bug reports
[07:43] <viper155> So blueman is the answer?
[07:43] <histo> _Dirk_: What type of video card do you have?  You can find out with lspci
[07:43] <auronandace> _Dirk_: your graphics card is seriously too old, you are likely using the right drivers from the beginning (no need to install others)
[07:43] <area51pilot> Installing blueman  was easiest fix to get it working
[07:43] <viper155> I'll give it a chance
[07:44] <area51pilot> Before installing it would fail trying to transfer to phone
[07:44] <_Dirk_> i was going to try xubuntu before going to L...  HISTO http://imagebin.org/259786
[07:44] <viper155> Thank you area51 and dr willis and everyone here
[07:44] <area51pilot> Problem started with 12.10 & later
[07:44] <area51pilot> :)
[07:45] <viper155> Area with android 2.3 no problems via bt or usb. Samsung disabled mass storage usb in jelly bean
[07:46] <area51pilot> Good to know viper...looking at getting s4 soon
[07:46] <iceroot> viper155: as i already said, it was not samsung, it was google
[07:46] <histo> _Dirk_: how much ram do you have?
[07:46] <iceroot> viper155: because of licence issues
[07:47] <viper155> Iceroor right :-)
[07:47] <_Dirk_> oh well.... if i was a chick i'd work the streets and buy a badass machine but i'm a felon with no job and support myself doing tattoo's out of a dingy little tattoo shop... i can't afford a new comp....  HISTO... 1 gig of ram/ 2 gig CPU
[07:48] <viper155> Area51 s4 will be as s3 same firmware
[07:48] <iceroot> _Dirk_: thats no problem and we respect it, for that case we have for example lubuntu which is perfectly for older systems
[07:48] <viper155> 4.2.2
[07:48] <histo> _Dirk_: What is your question?
[07:48] <area51pilot> Yes
[07:48] <iceroot> viper155: #android
[07:48] <viper155> Thank you ice
[07:49] <viper155> A good day guys bye
[07:49] <viper155> ;-)
[07:50] <area51pilot> ;)
[07:50] <_Dirk_> HISTO ive been pouring over google pages all day trying to find a distro that will work for me. i'm just getting some advice... i'm looking for something that i can do audio and video editing on... people did it in 2001 when this machine was top of the line, so i'm just trying to put the right os and software to edit like its the 90's dude
[07:50] <netlar> hi
[07:51] <auronandace> _Dirk_: you won't get anywhere, you machine is just too old
[07:51] <iceroot> _Dirk_: for the os i would recommend lubuntu. there you can install all programs which are also available for xubuntu, ubuntu-studio, ubuntu and so on
[07:51] <dr_willis> setting up MTP was not that hard for 12.x  i recall following the guides on either ombubuntu or webupd8 and getting it working
[07:51] <histo> _Dirk_: well you are able to run ubuntu xubuntu lubuntu or any of the derivatives with that hardware. For more performance I would run xubuntu or lubuntu and install audacity or whatever editors you need.
[07:51] <iceroot> auronandace: i am using 630mhz, 512mb ram, 12gb hdd here without any problems
[07:52] <histo> auronandace: please don't have the windows mindset of what hardware is needed to run linux. You can run even modern distros on some pretty old hardware.
[07:52] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  back then editing a 640x480 video was a big deal.. now these days they are  HD huge GB sized files.. ;) so  'video editing' has a large varity of needs
[07:52] <auronandace> iceroot: are you also editing audio and video on that?
[07:52] <iceroot> auronandace: mostly pictures
[07:52] <_Dirk_> ya... i'm downloading xubuntu now, i'm gonna take that for a test drive when it's done downloading, using my optimus s sprint phone getting 11m/s...  3 days from now!!!!! lol
[07:53] <echoe> sprint? fast downloads? what?!?
[07:53] <histo> auronandace: minimum specs for desktop is 700Mhz with 512MB or ram and 5GB hard drive
[07:53] <dr_willis> i think it would be time to head to the nearwst free wifi location and download the iso there.....
[07:53] <echoe> histo, that means they're under the minimum specs. and we are talking about video and audio editing, which is more intensive.
[07:53] <auronandace> histo: with respect, he wants to do audio and video editing, i doubt those specs would cut it
[07:53] <_Dirk_> echoe... right... jesus i'm f-ing dying over here
[07:54] <echoe> i misread it as 11M/sec i think
[07:54] <Deepfriedice> _Dirk_, What is your computer?
[07:54] <_Dirk_> it's not for a film coming out in nation wide theaters... i'm using adobe flash and making cartoons man!!!
[07:55] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  you do realize that flash is rather poorly supported in linux?
[07:55] <echoe> ... yeah, flash isn't computer intensive at all
[07:55] <_Dirk_> DEEPFI... it's custom built
[07:55] <auronandace> _Dirk_: flash performance on a cpu that old is rather abysmal
[07:56] <dr_willis> flash is rather poor.. on anything these days it seems. ;)
[07:56] <artiken> ++on flash being poor.
[07:56] <dr_willis> gimp does have an animation package/feature// but ive never ussed it
[07:56] <echoe> it's great on the ipad!
[07:56] <_Dirk_> ive only had ubuntu for 3 days... i havn't been able to test flash yet... but i'm not stingy i'll learn another program to make cartoons... i just wanted to try linux out
[07:57] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  so you installed wubi from some ISO file? thst you still have downloaded? or how did you download the iso for wubi?
[07:57] <_Dirk_> utorrent
[07:57] <dr_willis> and what release are you using now in wubi?
[07:57] <_Dirk_> 12.1 i think
[07:58] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  you do know you can install the 'lubuntu-dektop' package and try out lxde on that wubi install?
[07:58] <artiken> Gimp = Adobe Ilistrator, Inkscape = CorelDraw/Adobe flash. I use CLI PovRay for animations + Inkscape
[07:59] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  so what are you downloading right now anyway?
[07:59] <histo> auronandace: sure they would.. it depends on the editors and what sort of "editing" he will be doing. He's not going to be making the next Toy Story on those specs but he can edit a home video just fine.
[07:59] <_Dirk_> xubuntu and Lubuntu. Mint...  umm... Fedora... Puppy
[08:00] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  what VersIOn of xubuntu and lubuntu? and why even bother with mint and fredora
[08:00] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  an install of the lubuntu-desktop package will be about a 400mb download on the pc i imagine...
[08:00] <_Dirk_> cause i'm dumb... i don't know shit about linux... so i'm
[08:00] <dr_willis> forget mint, and forget fedrora
[08:01] <dr_willis> what version of xubuntu and lubuntu are you downloading?
[08:01] <_Dirk_> X & L are both 13.04 i386
[08:01] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  and whats your CPU exactly?
[08:02] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  because 13.04  REQUIRES a pae enabled CPU.
[08:02] <aeon-ltd> iirc i386 has been dropped for quite some time now
[08:02] <_Dirk_> http://imagebin.org/259786
[08:02] <_Dirk_> so i'm wasting my time... i need like version 10?
[08:02] <Just_Me> hey guys i need a small help, whenever i view youtube videos in fullscreen the quality becomes jagged. how do i fix it?
[08:03] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  whats what im driving at.. 12.04 or 12.10 may be the latest you can use.. depending on your cpu/
[08:03] <aeon-ltd> Just_Me: what gpu? install the drivers
[08:03] <dr_willis> when did the PAE needed kick in? 12.10?
[08:03] <Deepfriedice> _Dirk_, I THINK Xubuntu 12.04 can still run without PAE.
[08:03] <_Dirk_> ok so i need 12.04
[08:03] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  and tip #!1  ---> Instsll the pastebinit command and stop posting screenshots of terminals...
[08:04] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  this is why i asked what iso you used fo ryour wubi install.
[08:04] <_Dirk_> well thanx for the headsup... ive only wasted about 4 hours downloading 13.04
[08:04] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  was it 12.10 or 12.04 ?
[08:04] <Just_Me> aeon-ltd: im on NVIDIA(laptop) current installed driver is 3.19
[08:04] <Deepfriedice> Just_Me, You possibly can't. Flash on any Linux is terribly inefficient.
[08:05] <Just_Me> oh ok.
[08:05] <clcto> linux is terribly inefficient
[08:05] <_Dirk_> i'm not sure it's what ever is offered on the ubuntu wubi website
[08:05] <dr_willis> your cpu DOES mention 'pae' in the screeen shot..
[08:05] <clcto> \troll
[08:05] <Just_Me> so is there no around this?
[08:05] <Phryq> when I try to install flash player from the software center I get this, pastie.org/7992346
[08:05] <Just_Me> *way
[08:05] <aeon-ltd> woah flash does work well enough for video playback
[08:05] <artiken> _dirk: The basic Kernel is going to be aproximetly the same size, very small. If you add a X window and a GUI desktop. Which desktop you use determines the memory and CPU requirements. LXDE is a very small memory requirement desktop. KDE is the fattest desktop. KDE also has many "wiz-bangs" that look nice but cost memory and CPU.
[08:05] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  for what you are doing.. you may gain very little by using 13.04 over 12.04 or 12.10
[08:06] <Phryq> I've recently installed the new Ubuntu and since then I've had problems installing a few programs. I'm wondering if I should just do another fresh install
[08:06] <Phryq> like, maybe the install didn't go right, so it's having a hard time installing software now. Is that likely?
[08:06] <Deepfriedice> Just_Me, I'm not sure, what browser, graphics driver, flash version and hardware do you have?
[08:06] <_Dirk_> i'm not running the 13.04... i should have known not to download it... i'll correct it
[08:07] <Deepfriedice> Phryq, Did you run a integrity check before installing?
[08:07] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  also im not sure how much i would trust a 1+gb download over a slow cellphone connection to be 'correct'
[08:07] <Phryq> yes, but I'm actually not sure what the results of the check were
[08:07] <dr_willis> and 12.10 or 12.04 will do you fine for    the tasks you have mentioned
[08:07] <_Dirk_> can i use 12.10 and put lxde on it and be ok?
[08:07] <_Dirk_> it's 3g
[08:08] <Phryq> can I run another integrity check now? or is it too late?
[08:08] <aeon-ltd> _Dirk_: yeah
[08:08] <Just_Me> @Deepfriedice chrome ver.27 / NVIDIA 3.19
[08:08] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  we have said several times - you can install lubuntu-desktop package on any  ubuntu install and it will 'add' lxde/lubuntu' to the install
[08:08] <Deepfriedice> Phryq, you run the integrity check on the disk/flashdrive
[08:08] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  so all you need to do on your current WUBI install is install 'lubuntu-desktop' then select lubuntu at the login screen
[08:08] <Phryq> can I put the flashdrive in now, and run the check from Ubuntu?
[08:08] <dr_willis> it will be a few100mb download most likely.
[08:09] <_Dirk_> do i need to change something on the usb driveinstallation image
[08:09] <Phryq> or I guess I can just re-boot from the flash and run the check, right?
[08:09] <artiken> _Dirk: THE cool thing about Linux is you can install many versions and choose at boot time. Your software stays pretty much the same. So you can easily start with 12.04 and then just upgrade to 13.10 (not out yet). You can just as easily downgrade by using the package manager.
[08:09] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:   what usb drive install image/ if its a UBUNtu image.. you install UBUNtu, then add lubuntu-desktop afterwards
[08:09] <aeon-ltd> do not downgrade
[08:09] <Deepfriedice> Just_Me, Chrome huh? I think that has it's own copy of flash.   How does video playback do outside youtube, can you play the same resolution videos fullscreen?
[08:09] <auronandace> !downgrade | artiken
[08:10] <artiken> I know I did it.
[08:10] <_Dirk_> ok... thanx guys... it's 4am i'll pick this up tomorrow
[08:10] <area51pilot> :P
[08:10] <Deepfriedice> Phryq, You have to boot from the flashdrive, and pick "integrity check" rather than "start ubuntu"
[08:10] <Just_Me> @Deepfriedice i get similar quality when viewed fullscreen even outside youtube.
[08:11] <Phryq> ok, will do that now. Thanks
[08:11] <artiken> required a format. but the good side was the many partitions so the /usr/share/apt/.. directory still had the software versions already downloaded.
[08:12] <Deepfriedice> Then it's not flash. And if you are running the latest nvidia drivers, it's probably you're hardware.
[08:12] <Deepfriedice> *your
[08:13] <Phryq> did the disk check. No errors
[08:14] <Phryq> fast though, eh? It's on an SSD
[08:14] <dr_willis> Supper Speedy Drive
[08:15] <Phryq> so reinstalling the OS won't do anything if there are no disk defects?
[08:15] <area51pilot> Phryq...I've had bad installs before
[08:16] <Deepfriedice> Phryq, What EXACTLY do you mean by "It's on an SSD"?
[08:16] <area51pilot> Where re install was better than initial
[08:17] <Phryq> oh, I meant my hard drive is a solid state drive, which is why I can shut-down and boot up so quick. (That wouldn't effect the disk-check time though, of course).
[08:18] <Phryq> do you think I'm not connected to a certain repository, and that's why I can't install a bunch of programs and get these unmet dependency errors?
[08:18] <area51pilot> What can't you install?
[08:19] <Phryq> flash
[08:20] <Deepfriedice> It's always flash
[08:20] <Deepfriedice> Uh, can you post the error you get?
[08:20] <area51pilot> Use chrome.  :P
[08:21] <Phryq> pastie.org/7992346
[08:21] <area51pilot> Do you have flash available in the software center
[08:22] <Phryq> yes
[08:22] <Phryq> that's where I tried to get it from
[08:22] <Phryq> it's not the only install that gives me that error, just the most recent thing I've tried installing
[08:23] <Phryq> but I get it when I try to install a bunch of things
[08:23] <Bray90820> oops wrong channel
[08:23] <Phryq> some things, like VLC, install fine. I don't know what the pattern is.
[08:24] <Phryq> area51pilot, I get the same error installing chromium, though it's more specific about what dependencies it can't meet
[08:24] <Phryq> should I post them?
[08:25] <area51pilot> Yes
[08:25] <Phryq> http://pastie.org/7992381
[08:25] <Deepfriedice> Phryq, No, what program are you useing for package management?
[08:25] <Phryq> Ubuntu Software Center
[08:25] <area51pilot> There s a manual install for flash in this link:
[08:25] <area51pilot> http://forums.adobe.com/message/4724232
[08:26] <Deepfriedice> Phryq, That actually looks really wrong.
[08:27] <Deepfriedice> Get Synaptic, (it's better) and lets see I we can find out what's going on.
[08:27] <Sticks> Hi, I have a C510 Logitech webcam. VLC and Cheese show a stretched 4:3 image when set to 16:9. How can I get it to record in unsquashed 16:9?
[08:28] <Phryq> http://postimg.org/image/lyz8zpuzn/
[08:29] <Phryq> there's a screenshot with the errors
[08:30] <Deepfriedice> Oh dear.
[08:30] <Deepfriedice> Let's try Synaptic.
[08:31] <Phryq> apparently I have programs installed which cannot be installed at the same time? Should I just try uninstalling those?
[08:32] <area51pilot>  Phryq http://m.webupd8.org/2013/04/fix-google-chrome-cant-be-installed-in.html?m=1
[08:33] <area51pilot> This is where I hit libudev0 from in order to load Chrome after installing 13.04
[08:33] <area51pilot> *got
[08:33] <Phryq> oh, I was installing Chromium, not Chrome, sorry.
[08:33] <area51pilot> Same dependency though
[08:34] <area51pilot> Look at your error
[08:34] <Deepfriedice> Huh. You can probably just grab it from: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and install it with gdebi
[08:34] <area51pilot> Probably
[08:35] <deckard> hello. I removed my earphones from the notebook and now there is no audio. Can this be fixed without a restart ?
[08:35] <area51pilot> Check audio source is speakers
[08:35] <histo> Phryq: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install chromium
[08:35] <Baahtti> What is the program that gives me terminal 'sessions', like being able to have multiple 'virtual terminals' inside of one terminal?
[08:35] <histo> deckard: unmute the sound
[08:36] <area51pilot> :p
[08:36] <histo> Baahtti: screen or tmux
[08:36] <Baahtti> SCREEN! thanks!
[08:36] <deckard> it is not muted. I am checking audio source
[08:36] <deckard> thank you area51pilot it is working
[08:38] <area51pilot> ;)
[08:39] <Phryq> http://pastie.org/7992425
[08:39] <Phryq> histo, this is the output from 'sudo apt-get install chromium'
[08:40] <Phryq> baahtti, terminator
[08:40] <histo> !info chromium-browser | Phryq
[08:40] <histo> Phryq: sorry wrong package name use chromium-browser after apt-get update
[08:41] <Deepfriedice> chromium is a vertical scrolling space shooter, chromium-browser is a webbrowser.
[08:41] <Phryq> http://pastie.org/7992431
[08:41] <Phryq> haha
[08:41] <rocks> HELLO. I'm on Raring Ringtail and when I minimize a window it gets stuck midway of the animation and whole system hangs for 20 minutes
[08:42] <rocks> Unity
[08:42] <histo> rocks: video driver?
[08:42] <rocks> radeon on RS880 4250 HD
[08:43] <histo> Phryq: do you have any ppa's enabled?
[08:43] <Phryq> don't know what a ppa is
[08:43] <area51pilot> :p
[08:43] <ilnarik> hi all
[08:44] <histo> !ppa | Phryq
[08:44] <perelman> Hi!
[08:44] <Deepfriedice> Phryq, Have you done anything odd with apt?
[08:44] <area51pilot> Software sources
[08:44] <histo> Phryq: sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[08:44] <perelman> I find soft for sync iPhone with Ubuntu
[08:44] <Phryq> I have enabled a couple other repositories.
[08:44] <histo> Phryq: non standard repositories?
[08:45] <histo> !iphone | perelman
[08:45] <Phryq> I was getting errors trying to install software before, and I thought it was because I was missing a repo, so I enabled a couple. I disabled them later thinking they were causing the problem, and now I've re-enabled them again. I really have no idea what I'm doing though
[08:45] <perelman> Yeah
[08:45] <Phryq> medubuntu repos I installed manually
[08:45] <perelman> Phryq Thanks
[08:46] <dr_willis> i cant even think of a reason to use Medibuntu any more
[08:46] <Phryq> and I just clicked the checkmark in settings for the Canonical Partners and Independent
[08:46] <histo> Phryq: well try disabling the repositories you added with the exception of the partner and canonical repos
[08:46] <Phryq> I was just trouble shooting online and read an article that mentioned I should do it.
[08:47] <histo> Phryq: you should only need the main and universe repos enabled for chromium
[08:48] <Phryq> k, did it. Still getting the same error. Do I need to reboot?
[08:48] <histo> Phryq: no you just need to sudo apt-get update after disabling the other ones
[08:48] <histo> !info libnss3-1d
[08:49] <dr_willis> after altering your repos.. you always need to 'update' the package listing.  'sudo apt-get update'
[08:49] <Phryq> same errors
[08:50] <Phryq> I think I will just re-install my system. When I have a fresh install I won't do ANY tweaks
[08:50] <Phryq> or enable ANY repos
[08:50] <histo> Phryq: nO need to reinstall... just fix your repos
[08:50] <Phryq> I did
[08:50] <histo> Phryq: use the software center and go to software sources... Then you can enable/disable whatever you want
[08:50] <dr_willis> i dont even see the errors at the past witee.
[08:50] <dr_willis> site
[08:51] <dr_willis> there we go - it was slow. ;;)
[08:51] <Phryq> http://pastie.org/7992431
[08:52] <dr_willis> try the old 'sudo apt-get update'   'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' trick yet?
[08:52] <rsdaltin> oi
[08:52] <rsdaltin> falem alguma coisa
[08:52] <Phryq> I actually was having all these buggy-problems with version 12.10 as well, which is why I did a fresh install of 13. Is it normal to have this many problems?
[08:53] <Phryq> will try that not dr_willis , thanks
[08:53] <dr_willis> i rarely have any prroblems with ubuntu
[08:53] <area51pilot> Same here
[08:53] <Phryq> I must have bad computer karma
[08:54] <Phryq> same error still
[08:54] <dr_willis> the error messages says you got tht package held for some reason. Unhold it. ;)
[08:54] <rsdaltin> #gay
[08:54] <dr_willis> or just remove  it.. heh
[08:54] <Phryq> how do I do that?
[08:54] <dr_willis> but im not sure what nss' does.. sounds imporntant
[08:54] <area51pilot> -f force and fix?
[08:55] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get -f        might straighten it out
[08:55] <area51pilot> ;)
[08:55] <area51pilot> Maybe
[08:55] <dr_willis> i rarely have apt issues.. so rarely need to try to fix things.
[08:56] <dr_willis> i bet    askubuntu.com has dozzens of suggestions on fixing it ;)
[08:56] <area51pilot> Sometimes #
[08:56] <area51pilot> $h!+ just happens
[08:56] <Phryq> did " sudo apt-get -f" and it told me it has Super Cow Powers.
[08:57] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get remove nss    would remove that nss package   i imagine. but that may also uninstall other sstuff
[08:57] <area51pilot> Wow
[08:57] <Phryq> if it uninstalls other stuff, can I just re-install that other stuff, or might that break my system?
[08:57] <Phryq> I guess I might as well try
[08:57] <dr_willis> its possible you rnss package got updated from some of the reepos you had added
[08:57] <area51pilot> What's the worst that can happen?
[08:57] <area51pilot> Reinstall?
[08:58] <dr_willis> theres a way to tell it to uninstall/reinstall   but ive rarelyneeded that
[08:58] <area51pilot> :P
[08:58] <Phryq> "E: Unable to locate package nss"
[08:58] <dr_willis> !find nss
[08:58] <dr_willis> what was the package name it was complaining about?
[08:58] <Phryq> I think I will just re-install my OS, and next time I have a problem, I will come here right away rather than trying to fix it myself.
[08:59] <dr_willis> !info nss
[08:59] <area51pilot> It's a quick install
[08:59] <Phryq> if I want to experiment I'll do it in a virtual machine
[08:59] <dr_willis> a remove of that package once you determins its real name.. should fix things.. would be my guess
[08:59] <area51pilot> I've wasted more time trying to fix a botched system
[08:59] <Phryq> oh ya?
[08:59] <Phryq> so how do I find it's real name?
[09:00] <dr_willis> and apt-get  DOES support  tab completion :) to make it easier to use
[09:00] <dr_willis> what does thee error message say the package name is?
[09:00] <area51pilot> Good night and good luck
[09:00] <Phryq> 'night. Thanks for the help
[09:00] <area51pilot> :)
[09:00] <Deepfriedice> Goodnight
[09:00] <histo> area51pilot: what are you trying to fix?
[09:01] <Phryq> which error message do you mean specifically dr_willis ? The one when I try to install?
[09:01] <area51pilot> Nothing for me
[09:01] <Ponch0> Anyone with ubuntu-gnome 13.04 here having issues after last nights upgrade?
[09:01] <dr_willis> no it says in the error message.. depends on ......
[09:01] <area51pilot> I'm just fine
[09:01] <area51pilot> ;)
[09:01] <dr_willis> im on my phone so jumping back and forth to a browser iss a pain
[09:01] <Phryq> " Depends: libudev0 (>= 147) but 175-0ubuntu13 is to be installed"
[09:02] <area51pilot> Same here...4 am...time to sleep. :P
[09:02] <area51pilot> Night all
[09:02] <Phryq> 'night
[09:02] <dr_willis> !info libudev0
[09:02] <dr_willis> !find libudev
[09:02] <Seveas> [11:01] <      Ponch0> | Anyone with ubuntu-gnome 13.04 here having issues after last nights upgrade?                                            adamx
[09:02] <Phryq> it's trying to install a package that doesn't exist in Raring?
[09:02] <Seveas> [11:01] <      Ponch0> | Anyone with ubuntu-gnome 13.04 here having issues after last nights upgrade?                                            adamx
[09:02] <dr_willis> Hmmm... that is weird...
[09:02] <Seveas> [11:01] <      Ponch0> | Anyone with ubuntu-gnome 13.04 here having issues after last nights upgrade?                                            adamx
[09:02] <FloodBot1> Seveas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:03] <dr_willis> unless you added in some non-rareing repos by mistake
[09:03] <Seveas> sorry about that, my mouse got the better of me
[09:03] <dr_willis> but your originall error message mentioned nss i thouight  not udev
[09:03] <Phryq> maybe the error for installing Flash. I'll try that one
[09:04] <Seveas> Ponch0: what's the error you get?
[09:04] <Ponch0> Seveas: you're also having issues? I ended up with unity after upgarde!!! yuck! now, my mouse doesn't work at login aaand I login AS "gnome display manager"
[09:04] <Phryq> http://pastie.org/7992431#1,5,8,10 there's the chromium error. It does mention libnss
[09:04] <gordonjcp> Ponch0: after upgrading from what?
[09:04] <resolutionprob> hi, i'm running ubuntu 12.04 lts with nvidia drivers, i'm stuck at 800x600 and i cant get my native res
[09:05] <Seveas> Ponch0: log in on a terminal, found out which new packages got installed (in /var/log/dpkg.log) and remove them
[09:05] <Abbas|> whats a good free video editor that i can use on windows also?
[09:05] <dr_willis> resolutionprob:  the   nvidia-settings tool does verify you are using the nvidia drivers?
[09:05] <resolutionprob> yes
[09:05] <dr_willis> Abbas|:  avidemux is handy
[09:05] <gordonjcp> Abbas|: kdenlive works pretty well
[09:05] <Ponch0> it was a dist-upgrade, removed a bunch of packages, installed others, updating during the day to 3-0-23 was not issue, but the packages was what messed it up
[09:05] <Seveas> I don't have that issue as I'm on 12.10 still and use Unity :)
[09:05] <Phryq> I'm just gonna do a new install and will see what things are like after that. Cya guys
[09:05] <Phryq> thanks
[09:05] <gordonjcp> Abbas|: don't know about Windows though
[09:05] <Abbas|> is it gui or console?
[09:06] <gordonjcp> Ponch0: when you say "dist-upgrade" do you mean updating from one version of Ubuntu to another?
[09:06] <dr_willis> a console video editor? Hmmm....
[09:06] <dr_willis> cant say ive really seen a console bassed video editor..
[09:06] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: back in the day, I used to edit video with vi
[09:06] <dr_willis> video reencoders.. yes..  but not a  'typical' editor
[09:06] <Ponch0> gordonjcp: No, im sorry my terminology is iffy, I have a fresh install of JUST ubuntu-gnome 13.04
[09:06] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: granted, that was making up EDLs to be fed to an offline controller
[09:07] <resolutionprob> NVIDIA Driver Version:304.88
[09:07] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: write a text file, save to floppy, and then stand there feeding tapes into the playback deck ;-)
[09:07] <dr_willis> gordonjcp:   Bah! luxery... back in my days.. we used to print things out on puncards to make animated booklets! :)
[09:07] <Ponch0> gordonjcp: not anymore, it was a "partial upgrade", which removed/updated/installed new/old packages.
[09:07] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: hah, rockin'
[09:08] <histo> dr_willis: http://cli-apps.org/
[09:08] <Ponch0> I haven't touched any software sources in over a month, unity is seriously a virus..
[09:08] <dr_willis> Unity works very well.. plese no ranting.
[09:08] <Ponch0> I'm sure it does, my apologies.
[09:09] <dr_willis> now package  bug/regressions... :) those are a pain.
[09:09] <resolutionprob> :c
[09:09] <dr_willis> by 'dist-upgrade' you did a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' you mean?
[09:10] <dr_willis> or did you do a release upgrade to the next release?
[09:10] <Giles1> I just upgraded to 13.04, I seem to have both gnome session fallback bar at the bottom of the screen and also unity side panel (only when I log in with session fallback and effects on)
[09:10] <Ponch0> well, since I have unity now, how can I properly fix the login screen so I don't log in AS "Gnome disp Manager",
[09:10] <Giles1> I would like to remove the sidebar.
[09:10] <Ponch0> dr_willis: no sir, I used software updater.
[09:10] <dr_willis> Ponch0:  to upgrade to the next release?
[09:10] <Ponch0> dr_willis: Yes, that's the only thing I use.
[09:11] <Ponch0> is the software updater.
[09:11] <dr_willis> Giles1:  you could see if a newly made user has the same issues. if a newly made user works properly - that points to some user config issue in the files in the users home.
[09:12] <Ponch0> Updater earlier during the day to 3-0-23, everything was fine, then about 20 minutes ago, I clicked software updater, told my I have 75 packages to be installed/removed/upgraded
[09:12] <dr_willis> a 'software update' is differnt then a 'release upgrade'   so did you go from 12.04 to 12.10 or somthing? or just updateed the packages FOR 12..04 ? or whatever release you are using?
[09:12] <Ponch0> No, sir I have a fresh install of ubuntu-gnome 13.04 for over a month now.
[09:13] <Giles1> dr_willis ok, I will try that.
[09:13] <dr_willis> been working 14 hrs here all week.. so ive not even done any updates in a week   ;()
[09:13] <dr_willis> not seen anyone else in here today mentioning 13.04 update issues either (yet) :)
[09:14] <Ponch0> dr_willis: wow, well thanks for you attempt, I appreciate it, get some sleep :)
[09:14] <dr_willis> i still got an hr to go befor i head home from work..
[09:14] <dr_willis> :) gotta love being able to IRC while at work
[09:14] <emily_> yeahhhh
[09:14] <emily_> sweet
[09:14] <Ponch0> Just a quickie tho, how can I fix the login screen issue, I'll stick to unity for now since it's here, I haven't backed up my files.
[09:14] <Ponch0> dr_willis: you're a trooper haha.
[09:15] <dr_willis> what login screen issue?
[09:15] <emily_> using irssi to connect from a server through ssh :3
[09:15] <dr_willis> emily_:  i tend to use weechat. ;)
[09:15] <emily_> i have wee couldnt figure how to start it remotely tho ^^
[09:16] <dr_willis> ssh in.. run 'weechat'
[09:16] <emily_> oh ok haha thanks i go try now
[09:16] <dr_willis> theres a experimental weechat-on-android client that connets to weechat on your pc also. ;)
[09:16] <Ponch0> After I restarted the computer, after the update/upgrade whatever that is.  it goes into a display manager. There my mouse doesn't work or anything else, I hit ctrl alt del and it says "You're logged in AS "Gnome Display Manager", logs me out after 60 seconds, the display manager shows up again but now I can use my keyboard to log in.
[09:17] <dr_willis> Gnome dosplay manager is the X login screen.. it does run as the GDM user .   You could try switching back to lightdm to see if lightdm works any better.   (or switch back to gdm later) via the command.......
[09:17] <Ponch0> But I have to choose with the arrow keys "Ubuntu" from "System default" at bottom of display manager before I type in password.
[09:17] <resolutionprob> any idea, dr_willis? o-o
[09:17] <dr_willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm                   (or gdm)
[09:18] <Ponch0> dr_willis: thank you much, all your hard work does not go unappreciated.
[09:18] <dr_willis> i tend to use gdm because it looks nicer. ;)
[09:18] <Ponch0> dr_willis: yup, that's what I've been using, I'm really not sure what happened.
[09:19] <Ponch0> But now it's a different display manager.. Oh well.
[09:19] <dr_willis> you could try older kenerls from the grub menu also.. see if older kerneles work.
[09:19] <dr_willis> they may be having some issue with gdm/lightdm
[09:19] <dr_willis> or go funky and try some alteernatives to gdm/lightdm ;)
[09:19] <dr_willis> !info slim
[09:20] <dr_willis> i cant even rember the other *dm managers
[09:20] <Ponch0> dr_willis: alrighty, again thanks for your help. :) enjoy your day/night.
[09:22] <Ponch0> It seems I have both, GDM and lightdm installed on my system after "update", can I remove one of them using Synaptic Package Manager, or should I use command line?
[09:22] <Ponch0> I'm trying to play nice, must back up files first :)
[09:23] <Phryq> hey
[09:23] <Phryq> so I just did a clean install. I've done *nothing* to the system except install x-chat
[09:23] <Phryq> but when I try to install Flash I get the same error as before
[09:24] <Phryq> raaawr
[09:25] <dr_willis> i just leave all the dms installed in case one goofs up. ;)
[09:25] <dr_willis> Phryq:  you did a sudo apt-get upgrade?
[09:25] <dr_willis> then how are you installing flash?
[09:25] <Phryq> from the software center
[09:26] <Phryq> should I do a sudo apt-get upgrade right after a clean install?
[09:26] <dr_willis> use the command line.. that way you see errors. ;)
[09:26] <dr_willis> i always do a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade'   after installing..  to be sure its all up to date
[09:26] <Phryq> oh ok. I'll do it in a minute. The automatic updater has started so I have to let it finish
[09:27] <dr_willis> thats basically doing the same thing then. ;)
[09:31] <Giles1> dr_willis I tried with a fresh user account and it was no different.
[09:31] <atomx> Is there a way to upgrade Xubuntu from 12 to 13 ?
[09:31] <dr_willis> Giles1:  that is weird..
[09:32] <dr_willis> atomx:  you can do release upgrdess from 12.x to 13.x
[09:32] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[09:32] <Giles1> dr_willis: Can I remove unity packages all together?
[09:32] <atomx> thanks. did somebody did it before, in order to tell me whethere it's worth doing it
[09:32] <atomx> ?
[09:32] <forbi> what does the diffrences for me to install uefi rather than bios?
[09:32] <dr_willis> Giles1:  guess you could.. but i perfer unity
[09:33] <Giles1> dr_willis: I said can "I"
[09:33] <dr_willis> Giles1:    how were you using the old gnome look?  you dident install cinnimon or anything else weird did you?
[09:33] <resolutionprob> dr_willis, http://i.imgur.com/dkxWtJK.png
[09:33] <Giles1> dr_willis: no just gnome-session-fallback
[09:34] <dr_willis> Giles1:  you can use the package manager and uninstall anythin gyou want.. but it may break the whole system .. its hard to tell sincce your system is allready acting goofy
[09:34] <Giles1> dr_willis: yeah I use apt-get
[09:35] <treespider> Hello! Is anyone here using VMware Player? Why is it being downloaded as a 177 MB big .txt file?
[09:36] <Giles1> dr_willis:  Its not major worries, I just wont use compiz effects.
[09:36] <iPenguin> Hi
[09:37] <dr_willis> hmmm.
[09:37] <Jordan_U> treetreetr33: It's not a text file, it's a file which contains an install script at the beginning, and the data to be installed follows after the script.
[09:38] <iPenguin> Which operating downloads faster?>
[09:38] <Mrokii> Hello. This isn't directly related to Ubuntu, but can anybody recommend a good filemanager that is also highly customizable by Python plugins?
[09:38] <iPenguin> dropbox
[09:38] <iPenguin> Mrokii: Dropbox i recommend.
[09:38] <dr_willis> nautilus has the often overlooked 'nautilus scripts' feature.
[09:39] <dr_willis> but other then that.. i dont even recall any file managers with fancy scripting plugins
[09:40] <Mrokii> dr_willis: I despise the latest Nautilus and regard it as broken beyond belief, tbh. That's why I'm looking for alternatives.
[09:40] <treespider> Hello! Is anyone here using VMware Player? Why is it being downloaded as a 177 MB big .txt file?
[09:40] <atomx> dr
[09:41] <Mrokii> iPenguin: I will take a look, thanks.
[09:41] <dr_willis> err.. dropbox is not a file manager...
[09:41] <iPenguin> Mrokii:Your welcome
[09:41] <iPenguin> Its a file uploading one.
[09:41] <dr_willis> Mrokii:  theres some  patched nautiuls's out and theres dozens of other file managers in the repos.
[09:41] <Jordan_U> treespider: It's not a text file, it's a file which contains an install script at the beginning, and the data to be installed follows after the script.
[09:41] <yeats> treespider: use 'file' to check what the actual file format is
[09:41] <atomx> dr_willis: I did the steps recommended there , and to me the newest version appears to be 12.10 , not 13 :(
[09:42] <treespider> Jordan_U: How on earth do I use it? :/
[09:42] <atomx> I am using Xubuntu, not Ubuntu
[09:42] <atomx> How can I upgrade to 13 ?
[09:42] <Ponch0> How do I view all my installed apps in the search tab?
[09:42] <dr_willis> atomx:  you upgrade from one relase to the next.. you dont Skip btween relesses.. uneless you are going from a LTS to LTS trelese
[09:42] <treespider> yeats: How?
[09:42] <Mrokii> dr_willis: I guess there are a lot of file manager but that's the problem also. Too many to choose from.
[09:42] <Ponch0> It's only showing some of the most used when I click view more, it shows only a few of the more used apps.
[09:42] <Jordan_U> !vmware | treespider
[09:42] <dr_willis> atomx:  so you go 12.04  -> 12.10 -> 13.04
[09:43] <yeats> treespider: 'file filename'
[09:43] <treespider> Jordan_U: Thanks.
[09:43] <treespider> yeats: Thanks.
[09:43] <Jordan_U> treespider: You're welcome.
[09:43] <iPenguin> Can anyone tell me which ubuntu operating system downloads faster?
[09:43] <dr_willis> Mrokii:  decide on what features you want the most i guess.
[09:43] <atomx> dr_willis: you mean, I have to upgrade to 12.10, then it will appear 13 ?
[09:43] <iPenguin> i downloaded the normal one which takes 18 hours to download.
[09:43] <dr_willis> atomx:  thats what i said...
[09:43] <dr_willis> atomx:  so you go 12.04  -> 12.10 -> 13.04
[09:43] <atomx> :) thanks
[09:44] <atomx> great
[09:44] <yeats> iPenguin: they're all about the same size unless you download the mini.iso version
[09:44] <dr_willis> iPenguin:  you are asking what release is a SMALLer size to download then?
[09:44] <yeats> !mini | iPenguin
[09:44] <treespider> Jordan_U: The bot is wrong. There's no instructions there! :)
[09:45] <iPenguin> Umm, i have no DVD for that.
[09:45] <atomx> Ponch0: you can run aptitude directly, or in command line you can do dpkg --get-selections
[09:45] <yeats> treespider: before you continue, are you sure you *need* vmware here?  virtualbox is freely available in the repos and will do most of the same things (otherwise you can also use KVM)
[09:45] <dr_willis> use a usb flash drive iPenguin
[09:45] <Jordan_U> treespider: Yes there are. Read more carefully.
[09:46] <dr_willis> bye  all..
[09:46] <treespider> yeats: Well, VMware Player is free too, and I've used it on my Windows PC.
[09:46] <Ponch0> atomx: thank you.
[09:46] <treespider> Jordan_U: I can't find them.
[09:47] <Senjai> If i installed ubuntu without the gui, how can I install the GUI?
[09:47] <Jordan_U> treespider: I guess it's not stated explicitly, but the reason "VMware Player" is red is that it's a link to the page on installing VMware Player.
[09:47] <Senjai> Is there an apt-get install unity or something//.
[09:47] <Ponch0> One last question, I swear, how do I modify the sidebar in Unity? make it smaller, move it somewhere else... things like that.
[09:47] <Jordan_U> Senjai: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:48] <Jordan_U> Senjai: That will get you all of the packages which would be installed by default in a normal Ubuntu Desktop installation.
[09:48] <yeats> treespider: I would recommend giving vbox a shot: 'sudo apt-get install virtualbox'
[09:48] <treespider> Jordan_U: OMG! I really need some coffee.
[09:48] <yeats> treespider: if it doesn't work for you, remove it and install vmware
[09:48] <Senjai> Jordan_U: will it turn on by defult?
[09:49] <treespider> yeats: I keep hearing that VirtualBox from Ubuntu Software Center is outdated, and last time I tried it, I ran into all kinds of strange error messages.
[09:49] <Jordan_U> Senjai: Yes, after installing the ubuntu-desktop package lightdm will start automatically at boot.
[09:49] <yeats> treespider: you can get the newest version here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[09:50] <treespider> yeats: I'll use VirtualBox (newest version) if you guide me through it. ;)
[09:50] <yeats> treespider: I'm not able to commit to that - if you hit problems, just ask the channel and someone can help
[09:51] <Ponch0> treespider: it's quite simple if you google up the steps, I'm clueless with this thing and it wasn't much I could do to mess it up following the steps :)
[09:51] <treespider> yeats: :( Ponch0: I'm scared!
[09:52] <Ponch0> treespider: you'll be just fine, believe in yourself!.  The coolest part is, whatever space you use to install it to, you can just delete it with the Virtual Box without having to go through some wipey tool.
[09:53] <treespider> Ponch0: Thanks.
[09:53] <josvis> exit
[09:54] <Benkinooby> hi, i have very slow internet (~64kb/s) and something is taking up all my bandwidth. Wireshar shows me lots of of traffic with one server, htop shows me that root is running apt-get -qq -y -d dist-upgrade - how can i stop that?
[09:55] <Benkinooby> i guess that is some kind of backgroud update?
[09:57] <Benkinooby> anyone?
[09:57] <Baahtti> when I installed Ubuntu 13.04, I chose full disk encryption, as well as to encrypt my home folder. What software does Ubuntu 13.04 use natively to encrypt files/directories/devices?
[09:57] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[09:57] <Jordan_U> Baahtti: LUKS for "full disk" (really root partition) encryption. Ecryptfs for encrypted home.
[09:58] <Jordan_U> Benkinooby: Ubuntu doesn't install updates without confirmation by default. Do you know who might have configured it to do so?
[09:58] <Benkinooby> how can i stop a running automaitc update?
[09:58] <Benkinooby> Jordan_U: it is doing download only
[09:59] <Benkinooby> root is running apt-get -qq -y -d dist-upgrade
[10:00] <Jordan_U> Benkinooby: Ubuntu doesn't download updates without confirmation by default either (as far as I know, *maybe* Ubuntu server does but I doubt it).
[10:00] <Phryq> ok, restarted my computer, updated everything. Same error
[10:00] <yeats> Baahtti: cryptsetup/LUKS
[10:00] <Jordan_U> Benkinooby: You can safely kill apt-get as it's only downloading, but it will likely start again at some point.
[10:01] <treespider> When trying to start a virtual machine in VirtualBox: "This kernel requires the following  features not present on the CPU: pae". WHAT?!
[10:01] <Benkinooby> Jordan_U: pobly i set it to check for updates now and then - when i still had good internet connection :P
[10:01] <Phryq> I'm thinking I'll just install Flash manually and give up on whatever the core issue is
[10:01] <Baahtti> TrueCrypt offers the ability to create a 'hidden' encrypted drive within an encrypted drive. Does Ecryptfs offer this capability?
[10:01] <Benkinooby> Jordan_U: the point is now, even chcking (not download) for updates takes several minutes and teaks all my bandwidth
[10:01] <treespider> Ponch0: Did you get that error?
[10:02] <Jordan_U> Baahtti: No.
[10:02] <Benkinooby> Jordan_U: so my setting changed and i would like to stop the current process without getting my system into trouble
[10:02] <emx> i would like to do a minimalistic install with the default window manager (gnome i guess). is there an official how to or do i need to know which package does what?
[10:02] <Benkinooby> Jordan_U: that's why i am afraid to just kill apt-get
[10:02] <treespider> yeats: Any idea?
[10:02] <Jordan_U> Benkinooby: You can just kill it.
[10:02] <yeats> treespider: does your processor have virtualization extensions?
[10:02] <Benkinooby> Jordan_U: well then.... thanks :)
[10:03] <Ponch0> treespider, I did not.. But one of my computers has a really bad HD and was getting issues in reference to that.
[10:03] <Jordan_U> Benkinooby: You're welcome :)
[10:03] <minimec> treespider: You seem to have some older 'pentium' CPU kind CPU. The only CPU I have without PAE is PEntium 1.5 Centrino laptop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[10:03] <treespider> yeats: No idea. :o
[10:03] <yeats> treespider: you may have to enable virtualization in the BIOS
[10:03] <treespider> minimec: Intel i5-3450...
[10:03] <Benkinooby> Jordan_U: aaaahhhhh... there we go :) thank you
[10:03] <minimec> Mrokii: treespider Forget what I said... ;)
[10:04] <Benkinooby> Jordan_U: how's that program called where i set all these parameters (when to look for updates, etc.)
[10:04] <treespider> yeats: On my host PC?
[10:04] <minimec> treespider: Hmmm... Let me check that...
[10:04] <[360]Developer> @Benkinooby: @Jordan_U: to view open connections "lsof -i -n -P"
[10:04] <treespider> minimec: Thanks.
[10:04] <FourFire> Well, I lack patience, I am now going to install Dual Boot without backing up anything, because if stupidity and stuff
[10:05] <Benkinooby> [360]Developer: thank you for that (interestingly your messags was not hilighted...) i alreeady found the culprit
[10:06] <[360]Developer> @Benkinooby: ok shot
[10:06] <Benkinooby> [360]Developer: they without the @
[10:06] <Benkinooby> *try
[10:06] <yeats> treespider: yes
[10:06] <minimec> treespider: Well that link is the explanation of my guess, that you have an older CPU. http://askubuntu.com/questions/117744/how-can-i-install-on-a-non-pae-cpu-error-kernel-requires-features-not-present
[10:07] <treespider> yeats: I'll reboot in a minute or two. Waiting for minimec to say something. :p
[10:07] <[360]Developer> Benkinooby: they should add it to irc haha
[10:07] <minimec> treespider: Is that a system you 'upgraded' from a 11.10 install?
[10:07] <viran> Hello, i have virtualbox unbuntu machine, i set an ip address using ifconfig which works fine, after a minute i that popup that says network has been disconnected. and a new ipv6 is assigned somehow.... my ipv4 is lost. any idea why?
[10:07] <treespider> minimec: No, I did a fresh 13.04 installation on my recently bought PC. :/
[10:08] <treespider> minimec: My CPU is not old! :(
[10:08] <minimec> treespider: And you CPU type is a i5 ivy bridge (3xxx), right?
[10:08] <Benkinooby> Jordan_U: hm, something restarted it Oo
[10:08] <treespider> minimec: Yes.
[10:08] <Benkinooby> Jordan_U: i will investigate on, thank you for your help [360]Developer thank you too
[10:09] <treespider> minimec: Intel i5-3450.
[10:09] <minimec> treespider: The think is... You are running a PAE kernel, because 13.04 only comes with PAE kernels by default...
[10:09] <[360]Developer> viran: are you running your virtualbox as nat?
[10:10] <viran> [360]Developer: no, as internal network
[10:10] <Ponch0> treespider: I have an i7-3630QM, and I did not experience those issues in VB although I no longer use that.
[10:10] <treespider> minimec: So what on earth is going on?!
[10:10] <minimec> treespider: Can you give me the 'error message' again?
[10:10] <treespider> Ponch0: Thank you for answering.
[10:10] <PlastikSpork> I am trying to install gnome 3.8 on to ubuntu 13.04 in a VM... after adding the repository I get unmet dependencies:  Gnome-shell depends: libpango-1.0-0, depends libpangocairo-1.0-0  but is not installable.  Any suggestions?
[10:10] <[360]Developer> viran: whats your version of virtualbox?
[10:10] <viran> [360]Developer: i have to machines, i set them ip addresses, and everything is fine. after a minutes both of the machine lose my ip settings
[10:10] <treespider> minimec: "This kernel requires the following  features not present on the CPU: pae"
[10:11] <viran> [360]Developer: 4.2.8
[10:11] <Ponch0> treespider: what are you trying to run?
[10:11] <Ponch0> in the machine.
[10:11] <[360]Developer> viran: thats just crazy
[10:12] <yeats> treespider: what is the output of 'uname -a'?
[10:12] <viran> [360]Developer: could it be an ubuntu issue?
[10:12] <treespider> Ponch0: I wanted to look at Debian and have it installed and ready if I ever decide to run Windows in a virtual machine.
[10:12] <aurelg_> join #debian
[10:13] <Ponch0> treespider: from personal experience I had a lot of issues with debian on newer machines.
[10:13] <treespider> yeats: "Linux PC 3.8.0-23-generic #34-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 29 20:22:58 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[10:13] <[360]Developer> viran: i think its a configuration problem, because i have run testing before with that setup without problems
[10:13] <treespider> Ponch0: I'd still like to figure it out. :)
[10:14] <[360]Developer> viran: there might be a confict and ubuntu is trying to resolve it
[10:14] <Ponch0> treespider: You have a lot more patience then I, good luck :)
[10:15] <minimec> treespider: OK. I think the solution might be easy... Open the settings of the VirtualMachine you want to use and 'Enable PAE/NX' in 'System' 'Processor'... http://compinfopro.com/this-kernel-requires-the-following-features-not-present-on-the-cpu-pae/
[10:15] <martinux> Hey guys. I've just created my own bash script that suspends my lenovo g580 laptop when the lid is closed. The problem is that when I open the lid again, my screen turns black and I can't do anything. Could you please check my scripts for faults, as I don't know bash at all. Thanks!
[10:15] <martinux> http://pastebin.com/VqsZkWhu
[10:15] <[360]Developer> viran: setup a third vb as a DHCP server and the others as clients and see if the problem persists
[10:16] <treespider> minimec: Yes! Thank you! :)
[10:16] <treespider> minimec: That is very nice of you.
[10:16] <Baahtti> hrm, so WebcamStudio is no longer supported. Does anyone know of a dependable virtual web cam running on Ubuntu?
[10:17] <minimec> treespider: no problem... That's 'Google-fu'...
[10:17] <treespider> minimec: :)
[10:17] <viran> [360]Developer: if i keep ping running from one machine to the other, they dont lose the network settings
[10:17] <treespider> Jordan_U: yeats: minimec: Ponch0: Thank you all for helping me. I'm gonna go now. Bye!
[10:18] <minimec> Baahtti: What exactly do you want to do. You can use gstreamer from the 'command line', depending on your needs.
[10:18] <martijnHH> Hi folks, I want to package a scala build tool for a ppa that build-depends on itself. Is there any documentation about packaging scala (or java for that matter), and about bootstrapping a package?
[10:19] <Baahtti> minimec, well, my real issue is that I can't seem to solve my "upside down video" on Skype. I was hoping to find an easier fix by using a virtual webcam and inverting that in skype.
[10:19] <Ponch0> If I run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop currently on my ubuntu 13.04, will I lose all my files?
[10:20] <martijnHH> Ponch0: No, that is save
[10:21] <Ponch0> martijnHH: the files are saved?, just clarifying
[10:21] <ubuntu_newbie> hi all.can anyone help with a persistence issue with Ubuntu on a USB stick?
[10:22] <minimec> Baahtti: Well... You could install v4l2loopback-source (also v4l2loopback-dkms) from the repos. That gives you a virtual /dev/videoX after 'modprobe v4l2loopback. Then you pipe your webcam to the virtual device and flip the picture with gstreamer.
[10:22] <viran> [360]Developer: is it possible to create another host only adapter?
[10:22] <clcto> ubuntu_newbie: are you using a live cd or did you install it to the stick
[10:23] <ubuntu_newbie> i have it installed on a stick.  it is running now on laptop.
[10:23] <forbi> is it recommended to install via UEFI? for ubuntu
[10:23] <Baahtti> minimec, woah, that is a bit advanced for me. Let me try to let that sink in.
[10:23] <ubuntu_newbie> however, when i quit, all my settings disappear
[10:23] <martinux> Hi. If anyone could check my 19-line bash script meant to suspend - and un-suspend my laptop on lid-close for errors I would be very gratefull!
[10:23] <martinux> http://pastebin.com/VqsZkWhu
[10:23] <martinux> problem - when i open lid after suspend, screen turns black and I can't do anything
[10:24] <ubuntu_newbie> i have used various installers and tried different distros and checked the persistence option each time, but with no luck
[10:24] <vitimiti> hi o/
[10:26] <ubuntu_newbie> i have run ubuntu from a usb stick before with settings being saved, so i am not sure where i am going wrong this time
[10:29] <Baahtti> minimec, so if I did "modprobe v4l2loopback", that is asking the kernal to check for and load up the v4l2loopback driver which will mount a virtual device: /dev/videoX?
[10:31] <minimec> Baahtti: Exactly. If you load that one at boot (placing the 'v4l2loopback' in /etc/modules) it will always be /dev/video0.
[10:32] <Baahtti> minimec, and to load at boot, I need to edit something in init!
[10:32] <[360]Developer> viran: sorry i'm back, yes you can, but knowing now that your connection is sleeping is a new problem
[10:32] <Baahtti> minimec, let me have a look in there real quick
[10:33] <minimec> Baahtti: Exactly. If you load that one at boot (placing the 'v4l2loopback' in /etc/modules) it will always be /dev/video0.
[10:36] <TaZeR> i think ubuntu is simply the best operating system in the world
[10:36] <clcto> no
[10:36] <TaZeR> why would you go and say a stupid thing like that?
[10:37] <Baahtti> minimec, hrm, I'm scared looking at /etc/init. I know I should place that modprobe somewhere in one of those files, but I'm not certain which one.
[10:37] <clcto> TaZeR: you asked, i answered
[10:37] <minimec> TaZeR: ... because the best operating system is our planet earth ... ;)
[10:37] <TaZeR> what i  the world can be better than a fresb ubuntu installl
[10:37] <Robr3rd> Xubuntu has a wonderful (in my opinion) theme called "Blackbird" and I am wondering if there is a way to install it on Ubuntu. I checked Google but did not come up with anything.
[10:37] <minimec> Baahtti: As I told you: /etc/modules ...
[10:37] <TaZeR> planet earth dont got shit on ubuntu
[10:37] <Baahtti> minimec, sorry for my oversight
[10:37] <TaZeR> the planet is fukin stupid
[10:38] <TaZeR> if it was smart it would wipe us all out
[10:41] <Bhaktar> Hello, I have a short question about Gparted and a ext3 partition I have
[10:41] <Bhaktar> Anyone want to help a poor newbie out?= :)
[10:42] <BluesKaj> Bhaktar, ask your question , someone will help if he/she can
[10:42] <Bhaktar> cool, didn't want to come in and spam an unknown channel :)
[10:42] <martinux> I got this sh script that suspends my laptop on lid-close. When I re-open the lid, the screen turns black and I can't do anything. If you could review my 19-line script I would be very gratefull! http://pastebin.com/VqsZkWhu
[10:43] <[360]Developer> martinux: did you leave a video play running?
[10:43] <MonkeyDust> martinux  system settings, power, suspend when the lid is closed
[10:44] <martinux> MonkeyDust: I'm on i3wm, not using the gnome-manager-thingy
[10:44] <martinux> [360]Developer: no
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> martinux  if you want it in a script, better ask in #bash
[10:44] <Bhaktar> I have a hdd of 2TB. I had a ntfs partition on it. I shrunk it and transfered the data to a new 1.3TB ext3 partition. Now I resized this to 2TB (which of 400 gb is data). The gparted takes over 30 hours. Can I just stop it when it have moved 400 gb data to the left?
[10:46] <Baahtti> minimec, Should I have this modprobe at the top or bottom of /etc/modules file?
[10:46] <Rarrikins> Bhaktar: Is it still going or are you asking because you stopped it?
[10:46] <test23> ';,
[10:46] <[360]Developer> martinux: can you still see the mouse on your blank screen?
[10:47] <Bhaktar> rarrikins: It's still going on. I wish I'd resized my ext3 to 400 gb before resizing to 2TB
[10:47] <mattiag> I updated ubuntu to 13.10 and my notebook does not shutdown/reboot/suspend/hibernate properly as before. Is there a channel where I can ask for help or this one fits?
[10:47] <th0r> Baahtti: you don't add the modprobe, just the name of the module. And it usually goes at the bottom, but so long as it is on a line by itself it should work.
[10:48] <Baahtti> ah, thanks th0r
[10:48] <minimec> Baahtti: That should not matter. Per default I think you have 'lp' and 'rtc' in there. Just put it after these two lines.
[10:48] <Baahtti> modprobe is a command I'd run so that I won't need to restart?
[10:48] <BluesKaj> Bhaktar, gparted has to finish it's processes , there's more to do than just transfer data, if you stop that process it the data may be inaccessible i
[10:48] <test23> 1
[10:49] <test23> test
[10:49] <th0r> Baahtti: yes, modprobe installs a module from the command line. If the module is in that file it gets installed at boot
[10:49] <minimec> Baahtti: If you put 'v4l2loopback' in /etc/modules and reboot, you're good. Otherwise. 'modprobe v4l2loopback' in a terminal.
[10:50] <Rarrikins> Bhaktar: Is the hard drive light still going?
[10:50] <Baahtti> gotcha! I'm starting to get the hang of this. Eventually I'll understand what it is I'm doing
[10:50] <minimec> Baahtti: In the 2nd case, the /dev/videoX device is added 'after' the Webcam.
[10:51] <Baahtti> is gstreamer native to 13.04?
[10:51] <Bhaktar> Rarrikins: I have no problem really. Just that it's moving 1TB of non-data
[10:51] <minimec> Baahtti: Yes, but you need an additional package 'sudo apt-get omstall gstreamer-tools'
[10:51] <Bhaktar> and that it takes 24 more hours, it's already been going for 20 -__-
[10:51] <Baahtti> thanks
[10:54] <mattiag> (maybe #ubuntu+1)
[10:54] <Darky1> Ubuntu Server running Samba with ACL? Who of you guys got it working with Windows clients?
[10:55] <LucasCampos> Hey there. I'm trying to open a specific eps under evince, and it does not seem to work, if I have text
[10:56] <tokern3> hey
[10:56] <LucasCampos> I *can* see the miniature correctly, tough. I'm using Ubuntu 13.04, Evince 3.8.2
[10:58] <tokern3> i installes netbeans by 1-chmod 2-./netbeans....sh             it installed it successfully . but there is not any netbeans icon and when i write netbeans in terminal it say netbeans have not installed
[10:58] <tokern3> what the problem is?
[10:59] <[360]Developer> tokern3: go back to the install file and check what is the correct way to start it
[11:01] <[360]Developer> tokern3: I was able to start netbeans as sudo but not as normal user.. 
[11:02] <tokern3> [360]Developer:  there is nothing to describe correct way. the only thing i have is  netbeans-7.3-linux
[11:02] <tokern3> [360]Developer:  and i installed it as root. and i try to start it as root too.
[11:03] <bekks> Which is a very bad idea.
[11:03] <bekks> Install it as user, which wors without problems, and run it as user.
[11:03] <[360]Developer> tokern3: try running it in its root folder as root in terminal
[11:03] <bekks> Dont run netbeans as root.
[11:04] <[360]Developer> bekks: i always have problems with its plugin without root
[11:05] <bekks> Which doesnt turn running it as root into a sane idea :) Install the plugins as user, and you are fine.
[11:06] <[360]Developer> bekks: good idea, /profile
[11:06] <basiclaser> o hai
[11:07] <minimec> Baahtti: Still listening?
[11:08] <minimec> Baahtti: I am 'away' for about 10-15 minutes. Will be back to help you afterwards.
[11:13] <Baahtti> minimec, alright thanks for all the help. Yes I'm playing around with gst-launch right now, learning about how it's functioning. I'm wondering though...
[11:14] <Baahtti> so if I load up my video device using a program, like Skype, and then run a gst commandline to update that 'feed' by flipping the image...
[11:14] <Baahtti> I think I'm thinking about this wrong
[11:15] <Baahtti> I need to have a secondary 'streaming video source' that I can pipe to
[11:15] <Baahtti> so like, if I'm using Skype and want to suddenly flip my video stream
[11:16] <Baahtti> let's say I just tell skype to use my default webcam, and no other video device is mounted. so /dev/video0 is my onboard cam and it's currently streaming video to Skype...
[11:17] <cnu> hi ubuntu
[11:17] <Baahtti> can I have gst update that device's stream?
[11:17] <Baahtti> hi cnu
[11:17] <cnu> hi baahtti
[11:17] <cnu> what's up
[11:17] <Baahtti> learning a ton!
[11:17] <[FreeBSD]> f/q
[11:17] <[FreeBSD]> si =
[11:17] <Baahtti> trying to troubleshoot my upside down skype video problem
[11:17] <cnu> ohh.
[11:18] <Baahtti> so I'm using gstreamer to flip my video
[11:18] <cnu> i'm just learning this ubuntu thing.. :)
[11:18] <avi67> Hey guyz, can anyone tell, is their any way out to crack ubuntu luser login password..??
[11:18] <sienez> Hello. I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 and I have a monitor without any buttons for alignment or screen width, position etc... The problem is that the screen is shifted to the right. Anyone know how to correct this? It only happens after the OS is booted (no matter whether windows or ubuntu)
[11:18] <cnu> hai sienez. it may be due to ur monitor settings
[11:19] <Baahtti> sienez, check to see if your monitor's drivers are up to date
[11:19] <Rarrikins> sienez: Are there knobs anywhere on the monitor (including on the back)?
[11:20] <Rarrikins> (or in an openable panel)
[11:20] <Baahtti> if you had two monitors, I'd suggest disabling the problem one and then re-enabling...
[11:20] <cnu> can any one explain me what is this XChat.. i mean any specials in it..
[11:20] <minimec> Baahtti: OK- I am back. Ready for some tests?
[11:20] <sienez> oh my, how embarrassing.. the buttons were indeed on the back
[11:20] <Baahtti> minimec, I have questions actually
[11:20] <sienez> thanks Rarrikins :)
[11:21] <Baahtti> minimec, I was playing around with gst-launch and figured out how to get the video stream to flip upside down
[11:21] <Rarrikins> cnu: You can type /join #xchat
[11:21] <minimec> Baahtti: Check this 'howto' I just posted ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/5722570/
[11:21] <Rarrikins> cnu: The topic message for #xchat has some useful URLs in it, and you can ask questions there.
[11:22] <Rarrikins> sienez: No problem.
[11:22] <avi67> Hey guyz, can anyone tell, is their any way out to crack ubuntu user login password..??
[11:22] <cnu> thanks <Rarrikins>
[11:22] <minimec> Baahtti: Cool. So you just have to modify my commanf line and replace "aspectratiocrop aspect-ratio=16/9" with your tuff, I guess.
[11:22] <Baahtti> hrm
[11:23] <handuel0> avi67: if you just want to reset a lost password there are easier ways of doing it. Actually cracking a password is  hard, and although programs do exist they only work for very weak passwords
[11:23] <marianne_> hi guys... running 12.04 64 bit... I'm wondering if someone can point me in the direction on how to update on board video drivers... I can't even seem to find commands to see what I have and it's version
[11:23] <handuel0> marianne_: have you tried launching the additional drivers GUI program?
[11:24] <Rarrikins> cnu: You're welcome.
[11:24] <cnu> join /hadoop
[11:24] <marianne_> handuel0: I do know that it
[11:25] <BluesKaj> marianne_, dkms status
[11:25] <marianne_> handuel0: I do know it's nvidia and when I loaded the OS I did load the specific drivers
[11:26] <cnu> how to know list of chat rooms available.. any idea?
[11:26] <Baahtti> alright well let me reboot I guess
[11:26] <DJones> !alis | cnu
[11:27] <phillyj> can someone help me determine what these temperature readings might correspond to?
[11:27] <marianne_> BluesKaj: it's installing now
[11:27] <phillyj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5722582/
[11:27] <gordonjcp> phillyj: bits inside the case, I assume
[11:27] <handuel0> marianne_ open up the dash, and try searching for additional drivers
[11:28] <phillyj> gordonjcp: nice one, smartypants
[11:28] <phillyj> actually, i'm trying to see if my hdd has a temp sensor on it
[11:28] <marianne_> handuel0: ok, opened and searching
[11:30] <marianne_> handuel0: well, crap... would I want to load version 173 with post release updates or go with the one marked recommended?
[11:30] <dipra> I want to download all sub-pages of a website for offline browsing; The link structure is like this one: http://Link.com/A/B/C/D/E/..., I need to download all pages after B (B is an index for its next pages), I should work on command line because of ssh.
[11:30] <handuel0> marianne_: depends, do you want to do really heavy weight gaming on it :D
[11:31] <bekks> dipra: Just use wget
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> dipra  http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/downloading-entire-web-site-wget
[11:31] <BluesKaj> marianne_, use the recommended driver, it's best for most applications and effects
[11:31] <histo> dipra: wget -m
[11:31] <marianne_> handuel0: medium amount of gaming, mostly video and
[11:32] <marianne_> streaming
[11:32] <dipra> wget?! let me read the link.
[11:32] <Bhaktar> Wonder why gparted don't auto-shrink a partition before expanding left
[11:32] <histo> dipra: I would use -mk  to mirror and fix the links
[11:33] <marianne_> BluesKaj: I'm only apprehensive because it just says "current version" but doean't give the version number or anything
[11:33] <Baahtti> minimec, I think the v4l2loopback driver isn't installed properly
[11:33] <ssh-server> hi, I need to set up ssh-server on a computer in a way that ONLY clients with the public key can access it, clients without public key shouldn't have access even if they have a correct username/password combination..
[11:33] <cnu> any sticky notes kind of application in ubuntu?
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> cnu  tomboy
[11:33] <histo> cnu: tomboy
[11:33] <cnu> oh thanks.
[11:33] <histo> ssh-server: then disable password based login
[11:34] <minimec> Baahtti: Do you have a dummy device in 'video', when you run 'gstreamer-properties'
[11:34] <histo> ssh-server: /etc/ssh/sshd_config <---- Edit this
[11:34] <BluesKaj> marianne_, don't fret the recommended current driver should work fine.
[11:34] <bekks> ssh-server: Enable key based auth, disable password based auth.
[11:34] <ssh-server> Great, thanks :)
[11:35] <Baahtti> heh, don't even have that package, just a sec
[11:35] <phillyj> gordonjcp: never mind; i figured it out
[11:35] <histo> ssh-server: make sure key based auth works before disabling password auth
[11:35] <gordonjcp> phillyj: you want hdparm I think
[11:35] <marianne_> BluesKaj: yeah... it's downloading now... under it there is one that says post release update and version current updates. Should I load that after the first one is done
[11:35] <ssh-server> Sure thing, histo :)
[11:36] <phillyj> gordonjcp: i used hddtemp
[11:37] <Baahtti> minimec hrm, ok so gstreamer-properties showed me only the 'default' and 'webcam 2.0' items...
[11:37] <BluesKaj> marianne_, just run the updates/upgrades after rebooting as you would normally and let the driver install as is.
[11:37] <gordonjcp> phillyj: aha, perfect
[11:37] <Baahtti> minimec I think I need to pipe my video0 to v4l2src
[11:38] <minimec> Baahtti: 'sudo modprobe v4l2loopback', just to be sure, that the module is loaded...
[11:38] <Baahtti> minimec, gstreamer-properties gave me an option to 'test' the v4l2src pipeline and that worked
[11:38] <cnu> Which one is better? Tomboy or Xpad
[11:38] <handuel0> marianne_: sorry I took time. I'd just use the recommended ones then, the latest ones can cause trouble
[11:38] <Baahtti> minimec, module v4l2loopback not found
[11:39] <Baahtti> minimec and when I do apt-get v4l2loopback-source it's already installed
[11:39] <minimec> Baahtti: OK. I'll be right back...
[11:39] <Baahtti> minimec, I think the error is in how we're invoking the driver
[11:41] <minimec> Baahtti: What version of ubuntu are you on. I use 12.04 here, and my pipe is working...
[11:41] <Baahtti> minimec, I'm on 13.04
[11:41] <jjosh> whois jjosh
[11:41] <jjosh> sorry!
[11:41] <Baahtti> minimec, so I think the 'dummy device' is actually: v4l2src
[11:42] <Baahtti> but I'm only seeing the one /dev/video0
[11:42] <marianne__> handuel0: thanks.... rebooted and better already
[11:42] <minimec> Baahtti: Ok. Maybe they changed something again... Let me boot my 13.04 laptop and see...
[11:42] <marianne__> BluesKaj: thanks, better already
[11:42] <handuel0> marianne_: great. Glad I could help
[11:43] <BluesKaj> marianne__, good to hear :)
[11:45] <AlbertoM> hello can anybody help me to install the latest version from chromium browser  i see in ubuntu 12 only are availble the 25 version i want to use the last stable version
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> AlbertoM  if it's not in the repos, you need a PPA, but that's not supported here
[11:46] <bekks> AlbertoM: Then just download the .deb from Google, and install it - I guess the have a PPA for it.
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> !latest
[11:47] <AlbertoM> i try to install via ppa but i can not
[11:47] <marianne__> ok, another strange question... how do I know if the video card supports just analog or if it can do digital?
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> AlbertoM  contact the maintainer of the ppa
[11:50] <phillyj> hmm, fdisk tells me "doesn't contain a valid partition table"
[11:50] <phillyj> is something corrupted?
[11:50] <minimec> Baahtti: We are really not lucky. Looka that there is a bug in 13.04... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/v4l2loopback/+bug/1112644
[11:51] <Baahtti> hrm
[11:51] <minimec> Baahtti: And again here... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/v4l2loopback/+bug/1184444
[11:51] <Baahtti> well we're still on the right track though
[11:51] <Baahtti> we just need a different virtual video driver
[11:53] <Guest66019> hey
[11:54] <AlbertoM> ok i go to chromium stable chanel they say  i have to add this ppa sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily/stable i add this and affter i go to sudo apt-get updates and i try to install chromium and install the same old version
[11:54] <basiclaser> hey guys, I'd like to install the latest Tor, which I have already downloaded. It says on the site just decompress it and run it, but when i unzip it i just see a bunch of folders. How do i 'run' it?
[11:54] <AlbertoM> i dont know what to do
[11:55] <minimec> Baahtti: I know, that we are on the right track, but we need that v4l2loopback... I use 12.04 with a 3.5 kernel here. That is working...
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> AlbertoM  ppa's are not supported, you're on your own
[11:55] <Baahtti> minimec, hrm.
[11:55] <AlbertoM> ok i understand
[11:55] <Baahtti> minimec, I wonder if I tried to build it myself
[11:56] <minimec> Baahtti: You could try to use some newer kernel like v3.9-raring something or a v3.7-raring from here for a try. see in only the 3.8 kernels are buggy with v4l2loopback http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[11:56] <Guest66019> minimec, I wonder if I tried to build it myself
[11:56] <Guest66019> minimec, I wonder if I tried to build it myself
[11:57] <minimec> Guest66019: Yeah. You could try that.
[11:57] <minimec> Baahtti: Yeah. You could try that.
[11:58] <Baahtti> ugh, I don't want to change kernal versions quite yet
[11:58] <minimec> Baahtti: I can understand that, even though you can always remove them afterwards. You would also need the kernel-headers by the way.
[12:00] <phillyj> basiclaser: i think you have to compile it
[12:01] <phillyj> basiclaser: in ubuntu, you can use apt-get to do it for you
[12:01] <Baahtti> ugggg
[12:02] <Eagleman> I am using owncloud so i can access my files from the internet, i want to ( 2 way ) synchronise files between 2 local folders ( owncloud and samba ) however i am having problems achieveing that since the owner of those 2 folders are different, owncloud needs www-data:www-data and my samba folder has user:user, owncloud isnt able to access the samba folder becuase of the rights, is there an
[12:02] <Eagleman> synchronisation tool out there that can also change the owner of a file?
[12:02] <Znoosey> "The upgrade needs a total of 26.0 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 5,126 k of disk space on '/boot'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'."
[12:03] <Campfire> lets fire it up
[12:03] <Znoosey> anyone know how i can fix this?
[12:03] <Znoosey> as sudo apt-get clean doesn't fix it
[12:03] <Baahtti> minimec, are there any other alternatives to v4l2loopback?
[12:03] <Campfire> warmth
[12:04] <minimec> Baahtti: Well I don't know. I never looked for an alternative, as I have a working solution...
[12:06] <Guest53314> Where would I get to see the code that runs the Floodbot?
[12:06] <Guest53314> anybodym know
[12:08] <martinux> hi! I'm on ubuntu 13.04 and my laptop wont wake up properly from pm-suspend. How can i diagnose and fix this?
[12:08] <dipra> histo: wget -mk http://wiki.linuxreview.ir/LPI-101 => the downloaded pages are different to the main pages -> no css and theme
[12:10] <[360]Developer> martinux: when you say it doesnt wake up correctly what do you see?
[12:11] <martinux> [360]Developer: It 'wakes' up (starts running), but the screen is black and I can't do anything but reboot. And I am unable to suspend it again (with lid-close) once this has happened.
[12:12] <[360]Developer> martinux: can you see the mouse pointer?
[12:12] <martinux> no
[12:12] <Eagleman> I am using owncloud so i can access my files from the internet, i want to ( 2 way ) synchronise files between 2 local folders ( owncloud and samba ) however i am having problems achieveing that since the owner of those 2 folders are different, owncloud needs www-data:www-data and my samba folder has user:user, owncloud isnt able to access the samba folder becuase of the rights, is there an
[12:12] <Eagleman> synchronisation tool out there that can also change the owner of a file?
[12:13] <[360]Developer> martinux: do you currently have any external devices connected like modems, usb mouse, usb harddrive?
[12:13] <martinux> [360]Developer: no
[12:13] <martinux> [360]Developer: just my AC
[12:15] <[360]Developer> martinux: i have found that i have that problem in two cases either when i have my usb dongle h-modem connected or i closed my laptops lid while i had an application in full screen, did you have any of these problems?
[12:16] <martinux> no
[12:16] <martinux> Though I am on i3wm, so before I waste any of your time I will log into Unity and try it there.
[12:17] <[360]Developer> martinux: ok, do you use a login screen?
[12:17] <cnu> tomboy or Xpad - for sticky notes..
[12:17] <Guest66019> no
[12:17] <Guest66019> you no spk ?
[12:17] <Guest66019> ok ?
[12:19] <Deepfriedice> martinux, Can you post /var/log/syslog.1 after rebooting from frozen?
[12:20] <[360]Developer> Deepfriedice: he's not seeing the mouse pointer so startx problem, maybe related to a driver
[12:20] <Deepfriedice> Okay.
[12:22] <martinux> [360]Developer: hi. I got the same issue in Unity as well.
[12:23] <Baahtti> minimec, Is there a walkthrough on the web somewhere for updating a kernel?
[12:23] <[360]Developer> martinux: check  Deepfriedice: pre post
[12:24] <minimec> Baahtti: Good news! It's running here on 13.04!
[12:24] <Deepfriedice> [360]Developer, what?
[12:24] <martinux> [360]Developer: check what?
[12:24] <Baahtti> minimec, oh?
[12:24] <minimec> Baahtti: Ok take the sources form here https://github.com/umlaeute/v4l2loopback
[12:24] <[360]Developer> martinux: Can you post /var/log/syslog.1 after rebooting from frozen?
[12:25] <martinux> [360]Developer: Sure thing.
[12:25] <minimec> Baahtti: Compile it --> 'make' 'make-install'. It works here...
[12:26] <minimec> Baahtti: Kernel 3.8.0.23 13.04
[12:26] <Baahtti> minimec, alright, let me give it a shot
[12:28] <minimec> Baahtti: 'git clone https://github.com/umlaeute/v4l2loopback.git', 'cd v4l2loopback', 'make', 'sudo make install' ...
[12:29] <martinux_> [360]Developer: there is only 1 syslog in /var/log and it is called 'syslog', not 'syslog.1'
[12:30] <Tetog> hi
[12:30] <Tetog> help plesae
[12:30] <ubuntu-boy> huhu
[12:30] <Eagleman> I am using owncloud so i can access my files from the internet, i want to ( 2 way ) synchronise files between 2 local folders ( owncloud and samba ) however i am having problems achieveing that since the owner of those 2 folders are different, owncloud needs www-data:www-data and my samba folder has user:user, owncloud isnt able to access the samba folder becuase of the rights, is there an
[12:30] <Eagleman> synchronisation tool out there that can also change the owner of a file?
[12:31] <iPenguin>  Hi, I am downloading ubuntu mini.iso but for some reason it has been stuck on 6 minuites of download left for ages. Does anyone know what the problem is?
[12:31] <ubuntu-boy> so sad :(
[12:31] <Tetog> What deveoper network the bestest? I need found developers for open project.
[12:31] <ubuntu-boy> use new ubuntu 13.04
[12:33] <ubuntu-boy> everybody home?hehe
[12:33] <iPenguin> Yes i am ubuntu-boy lol
[12:33] <Baahtti> minimec, ok got my dummy video, gonna reboot and see what's up
[12:34] <Tetog> HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP!
[12:34] <ubuntu-boy> anybody help me teach how to hack wifi wpa2?
[12:34] <iPenguin> hacking isnt nessary ubuntu-boy,could get you into trouble.
[12:35] <Eagleman> Tetog this channel is for ubuntu support, not for deveoper network bestest whatever that might be
[12:35] <musca> Tetog: You don't need to shout. We are all waiting for more info.
[12:35] <ubuntu-boy> i mean use backtrack 5 R3
[12:35] <Malakbal> yo
[12:35] <mucha090> hi
[12:36] <ubuntu-boy> all tutuorial at website or youtube just for,not real
[12:36] <docmur> I'm transfering files to my server over wireless and I'm getting 270 KB/s,  The server is sitting 7 feet behind me and it's wired into my router, my computer is connected wirelessly to the router.  Any ideas why that is so slow
[12:37] <iPenguin> If i download the normal ubuntu it takes 18 hours.
[12:37] <ubuntu-boy> download use flare get
[12:38] <ubuntu-boy> cpeed downloader
[12:38] <iPenguin> ubuntu-boy: was you talking to me or someone else?
[12:38] <ubuntu-boy> haha
[12:38] <pr0n> how can i install i3 window manager in my UBUNTU 12.04.2
[12:39] <martinux_> pr0n: I think apt-get install i3-wm should work
[12:39] <ubuntu-boy> u can read who need answer,me and u talk about wpa2 and whit him about downloader
[12:39] <martinux_> My laptop wont wake up properly from suspend; it wakes up (fans start running), the screen turns all black and I am forced to reboot. How can I diagnose and fix this?
[12:39] <pr0n> martinux_: and will i lose my unity side dock?
[12:40] <martinux_> ubuntu 13.04 by the way
[12:40] <ubuntu-boy> im using ubuntu 13.04
[12:40] <ubuntu-boy> not bad
[12:40] <martinux_> pr0n: You will not lose anything. But the side dock is not present once you are using i3wm
[12:41] <mucha090> who use kde?
[12:41] <mucha090> because i have issue
[12:41] <ubuntu-boy> so martinux: how toget password from wpa2 whit pyrit?do know?
[12:41] <pr0n> ohk thank you, and how will i be able to access my documents folder in a gui fashion? will it still be avaiable.. sry havent user i3 bfore
[12:42] <martinux_> pr0n: I'm not sure. If you want a gui fashion I don't know if i3wm is what you want.
[12:42] <ubuntu-boy> pron: u have updated ur ubuntu before use?
[12:43] <pr0n> ubuntu-boy: yes
[12:44] <ubuntu-boy> i thing the u must use new ubuntu.
[12:45] <ubuntu-boy> same my laptop also many problem before i use ubuntu 13.04
[12:45] <mucha090> so when i use quassel irc or kadu im and someone will send me link to web page
[12:45] <mucha090> and when i click on taht link kde will download it and open in web browser
[12:45] <mucha090> and how to disable it?
[12:45] <bekks> Thats expected.
[12:46] <bekks> mucha090: Dont click then.
[12:46] <mucha090> bekks: nah, so then you dont have solution how to disable it?
[12:46] <mucha090> and you understand what i type?
[12:47] <bekks> mucha090: I do understand what you type. If you dont want a link to open when you clkick it - dont click it :)
[12:47] <fogil> is secure boot and uefi two diffrent things?
[12:48] <bekks> fogil: Secure boot is part of the uefi implementation.
[12:48] <Baahtti> minimec, ok, I got it built. I have /dev/video0 and /dev/video1. Your code runs fine but I have questions about that specific code after...
[12:49] <mucha090> bekks: but the point is, before kde open that link it download to hdd and then it open from location /var/kdecache
[12:49] <minimec> Baahtti: Cool ;)
[12:49] <Baahtti> minimec, When I go to skype now and select the 'dummy device' it's just a black video though, even when gstreamer-properties is testing the dummy video and showing the video being piped through just fine
[12:50] <fogil> bekks: can i get ubuntu to work with uefi?
[12:50] <minimec> Baahtti: probably the 'aspectratiocrop aspect-ratio=16/9 !'. Delete that. Maybe skype wants 4:3
[12:51] <martinux_> My laptop wont wake up properly from suspend; it wakes up (fans start running), the screen turns all black and I am forced to reboot. How can I diagnose and fix this?
[12:51] <bekks> fogil: Sure.
[12:51] <bekks> fogil: Most likely you have to disable UEFI secure boot, to be able to boot something else rather than your windows.
[12:51] <Baahtti> minimec, about all those settings in your line of code. Why can't I just do: gst-launch v4l2src device=/dev/video1 ! v4l2sink device=/dev/video0
[12:52] <bekks> mucha090: And why is it a problem if the content is cached on your harddisk?
[12:53] <Thedevil1234> I am using a proxy server. Do I have to configure software center for it? If yes then how?
[12:53] <minimec> Baahtti: you can leave out 'width' 'height' 'framerate'
[12:53] <Guest53314> does anyone here know a good website/page that explains how to setup ubuntu phone on a ASUS transformer?
[12:53] <mucha090> bekks: because i dont like it, and do you know how to disable it?
[12:53] <fogil> bekks: i dont have windows installed and seure boot is disabled
[12:54] <minimec> Baahtti: as I told before also "aspectratiocrop aspect-ratio=16/9"
[12:54] <bekks> mucha090: I guess you have to live with it then.
[12:54] <DJones> !touch | Guest53314 You're more likely to get assistance here,
[12:54] <primitive> anyone know if i can format a drive with a recovery partition that has a grub rescue error and i will get a clean drive again
[12:54] <bekks> fogil: Then, there is no problem. :)
[12:54] <iPenguin> Can anyone recommend me any ubuntu operating systems which does not take ages and ages to download, has faster peformance etc.
[12:54] <bekks> iPenguin: "Ubuntu".
[12:54] <iPenguin> That takes ages bekks
[12:54] <bekks> iPenguin: Here, it doesnt.
[12:55] <iPenguin> 18 hours is a very long time.
[12:55] <dichotoPangea> Does anyone know anything about recording audio with ffmpeg?
[12:55] <bekks> iPenguin: 18 hours for what? Booting? Then you have a hardware issue.
[12:55] <iPenguin> bekks: to download
[12:55] <fogil> bekks: i try to boot ubuntu in uefi  but there arent any uefi chioce for the cd
[12:56] <bekks> iPenguin: You download it once. Not every day. :)
[12:56] <Thedevil1234> I am using a proxy server. Someone help me configure software center for it.
[12:56] <bekks> fogil: Then you have to reead up the manual of your computer/mmainboard on how to boot a cd.
[12:56] <primitive> anyone see my statement above?
[12:56] <minimec> Baahtti: gst-launch v4l2src device=/dev/video1 ! video/x-raw-yuv ! ffmpegcolorspace ! v4l2sink device=/dev/video0 sync=false
[12:56] <scarface> Hi, I'm trying to do a large backup between two computers on my LAN.  They are both connected with Gigabit ethernet, but the transfer speed is slow, about 8 MB/s (64 Mb/s).  I'd expect a lot faster, and I suspect that SSH encryption is slowing me down.  What's the easiest option to set up unencrypted file sharing, temporarily?
[12:57] <bekks> primitive: That will delete everything on the drive. Even the recovery.
[12:57] <bekks> scarface: Which protocol do you use for transferring data?
[12:57] <marianne> I just want to thank all the guys out there that help us newbies get things going properly! this morning I fixed all my video issues and now I don't have to buy a new monitor... major props guys!
[12:57] <primitive> will i be able to load linux back to it with a cd/dvd
[12:57] <Baahtti> minimec, yeah, tried that, still not working in skype :-/
[12:57] <bekks> primitive: Yes.
[12:57] <scarface> bekks: I'm using SSH now (scp)
[12:58] <bekks> scarface: Thats pretty slow. Use rsync or ftp.
[12:58] <primitive> how do i accomplish it
[12:58] <bekks> primitive: Boot the cd, install. :)
[12:58] <scarface> bekks: Doesn't rsync still go over SSH?
[12:58] <bekks> scarface: No.
[12:59] <primitive> can you recommend a way to just format everything but partition with recovery
[12:59] <dichotoPangea> I'm recording in .flv, and every time I change the bitrate to one of the suggested ones, it just tells be to switch to one of the suggested ones, even though I have.
[12:59] <bekks> primitive: No, I cant. :)
[12:59] <bekks> primitive: Backup everything. :)
[13:00] <Eagleman> I am using owncloud so i can access my files from the internet, i want to ( 2 way ) synchronise files between 2 local folders ( owncloud and samba ) however i am having problems achieveing that since the owner of those 2 folders are different, owncloud needs www-data:www-data and my samba folder has user:user, owncloud isnt able to access the samba folder becuase of the rights, is there an
[13:00] <Eagleman> synchronisation tool out there that can also change the owner of a file?
[13:00] <primitive> i can't find a way to boot a disc to redo boot or grub rescue.  is there a way to do it by text only , no devices
[13:01] <minimec> Baahtti: Ok. That is strange. I have a logitech WebCam Sphere here on 12.04, and skype shows my 'dummy device'.
[13:01] <Baahtti> minimec, I'm wondering if it's because the device is 'busy'
[13:01] <JohnThePreacher> Repent now! For The Kingdom of Heaven is at HAND!
[13:02] <Eagleman> ow god
[13:02] <JohnThePreacher> !ops | Repent now! For The Kingdom of Heaven is at HAND!
[13:02] <BluesKaj> dichotoPangea, why flv , there are better formats
[13:02] <iPenguin> Are you sure it takes this long? http://prntscr.com/17q0v0 O.o
[13:02] <DJones> JohnThePreacher: Stop that
[13:02] <primitive> i didn't get last statement someone sent
[13:02] <fogil> dont have any manual :s
[13:03] <minimec> Baahtti: Also tested now on 13.04 with the integrated Lenovo Webcam. Working like charm here.
[13:03] <dichotoPangea> BluesKaj: .flv is the only format I know how to use ffmpeg with, and I can just reencode. :/
[13:03] <JohnThePreacher> DJones,  And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
[13:03] <Baahtti> minimec, ok so, let me try and restart skype real quick I guess
[13:03] <primitive> you are either God's or your not
[13:04] <[360]Developer> JohnThePreacher:  end1;
[13:04] <minimec> Baahtti: You can check and maybe change 'video/x-raw-yuv'...
[13:04] <iPenguin> Baahtti: if it doesn't work then i recommend imo.
[13:04] <BluesKaj> dichotoPangea, try mpeg  or avi ...ffmpeg can handle those as well ,and the quality is better after conversion
[13:04] <robotdevil> so when you use unity-tweak to make the window controls move from left to right this only partially works?
[13:04] <Konvicted> how do i fix this "connection failed with error: Address family not supported by protocol"
[13:05] <robotdevil> max windows have on the left still and so does dash
[13:05] <dichotoPangea> BluesKaj: Do you know a command, or somewhere I can learn one, to record in .avi (the format I really want) with audio?
[13:05] <primitive> the recovery partition will not boot and that is all the recovery help i have.  i really don't have any outstanding files to keep
[13:05] <Konvicted> how do i fix this "connection failed with error: Address family not supported by protocol"
[13:06] <Baahtti> iPenguin, imo allows skype accounts with voip and video?
[13:08] <Baahtti> I wish I got some sort of feedback as to why Skype doesn't want to receive the video stream
[13:08] <BluesKaj> dichotoPangea, avi records audio in mp3 format and  afaik it's default
[13:09] <dichotoPangea> BluesKaj: This is what I have now: ffmpeg -y -f x11grab -r 25 -s 1366x768 -i :0.0 -f alsa -i plughw:2,0 -acodec libmp3lame -ab 44100 -sameq /tmp/vagrantIPsoftClientAutomation.flv
[13:09] <scarface> bekks: The reason that I thought rsync went over SSH is because I only have port 22 open in the firewall, and the rsync is working.  I thought that meant that rsync was riding over SSH.
[13:09] <bekks> primitive: Please keep it in this channel. If you want to be able to use your recovery partition, you would need to back up the entire disk.
[13:10] <bekks> scarface: Then you have no other choice than using ssh - and you have to wait.
[13:10] <primitive> sorry
[13:10] <scarface> bekks: So you're suggesting that if I open another port for a dedicated rsync daemon that it would be faster?
[13:11] <BluesKaj> dichotoPangea, change the file extn .flv to .mpeg
[13:11] <primitive> thanks for the help
[13:11] <BluesKaj> or avi , dichotoPangea
[13:11] <bekks> scarface: Yes.
[13:12] <dichotoPangea> BluesKaj: Thanks, that works.
[13:14] <Baahtti> minimec, maybe it is the process of utilizing this mod that I am doing wrong
[13:14] <Baahtti> minimec, also, cheese doesn't seem to pick up on the fact that I have two video modules
[13:14] <minimec> Baahtti: What kind og webcam do you have.
[13:15] <Baahtti> minimec, generic USB 2.0 WebCam
[13:16] <Konvicted> i cannot make outgoing data calls  "i get this Address family not supported by protoco"
[13:16] <minimec> Baahtti: Can you give me the exact specs with 'lsusb'? Like "Bus 006 Device 004: ID 046d:0994 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Orbit/Sphere AF"
[13:16] <Baahtti> if I do: cheese --device=/dev/video0 cheese starts up using video1
[13:17] <Baahtti> minimec, let me paste you the output of that
[13:19] <Turtle_> Hey guys, got a weird problem with LS not displaying any files in /usr/local/sbin (amongst other dirs) over SSH is anyone free to give us a hand?
[13:19] <minimec> Baahtti: I can confirm, that cheese is not working. The reason is probably, that 'cheese' does something similar, when using effects...
[13:19] <robotdevil> so there is no way to get the window controls (min,max,close)to the right hand side for MAXIMIZED windows in unity?
[13:20] <[360]Developer> robotdevil: ah there is
[13:20] <Turtle_> and intact not just over SSH, i've just VNC'd in and its the same issue, no files showing with an ls -la
[13:20] <Dickface> BluesKaj: Video is perfect, but I'm not getting any audio in the video.
[13:20] <robotdevil> ok listening
[13:20] <dichotoPangea2> BluesKaj: Video is perfect, but I'm not getting any audio in the video.
[13:21] <[360]Developer> robotdevil: http://askubuntu.com/questions/174292/how-can-i-move-all-the-window-controls-to-the-right
[13:21] <XHEART24> Hi everyone, i need to make my old ubuntu PC wireless and I as wondering if this will work for me http://dx.com/p/ultra-mini-nano-usb-2-0-802-11n-150mbps-wifi-wlan-wireless-network-adapter-48166
[13:21] <BluesKaj> do you have the lame plugin , I noticed you were using that , dichotoPangea2
[13:21] <martinux> hoy [360]Developer You dissapeared earlier :)
[13:21] <Eagleman> I am using owncloud so i can access my files from the internet, i want to ( 2 way ) synchronise files between 2 local folders ( owncloud and samba ) however i am having problems achieveing that since the owner of those 2 folders are different, owncloud needs www-data:www-data and my samba folder has user:user, owncloud isnt able to access the samba folder becuase of the rights, is there an
[13:21] <Eagleman> synchronisation tool out there that can also change the owner of a file?
[13:22] <Benkinooby> hi, anyone has experience with blink messenger? http://icanblink.com is it worth to llk into it?
[13:22] <Baahtti> my webcam's model is literally, "VGA web camera"
[13:22] <[360]Developer> martinux: yea sorry had the girlfriend on my case
[13:22] <martinux> [360]Developer: no worries
[13:23] <dichotoPangea2> BluesKaj: The lame package is installed on my system, I don't know if you mean a different package.
[13:23] <robotdevil> [360]Developer: I was looking at that page but might have interpreted the part half way down where it says Note that this will only change the position of the window controls of non-maximized windows. The maximized windows will continue to have their window controls on the left in title bar.
[13:23] <robotdevil> as the same command
[13:23] <martinux> [360]Developer: I was telling you that I have no 'syslog.1' which you requested. Do you want my /var/log/syslog in stead?
[13:23] <robotdevil> will try it out
[13:23] <BluesKaj> dichotoPangea2, which player ?
[13:23] <dichotoPangea2> VLC.
[13:24] <[360]Developer> martinux: type "vi /var/log/syslog.1 "
[13:24] <XHEART24> Ubuntu 12.04 works ok with wireless?
[13:24] <SonikkuAmerica> XHEART24: It should; have a problem?
[13:24] <[360]Developer> martinux: without the comma's
[13:24] <martinux> [360]Developer: [new file]
[13:24] <XHEART24> will this work with Ubuntu 12.04 > http://dx.com/p/ultra-mini-nano-usb-2-0-802-11n-150mbps-wifi-wlan-wireless-network-adapter-48166
[13:24] <BluesKaj> right click on the screen while the audio is playing and choose audio and then the track that works
[13:25] <BluesKaj> dichotoPangea2, ^
[13:25] <SonikkuAmerica> XHEART24: Try connecting using a Live image.
[13:25] <BluesKaj> err the video rather
[13:25] <martinux> I did see that file in there before. But not since I installed 13.04
[13:25] <[360]Developer> robotdevil: from a programming aspect there should be a config to change this
[13:25] <XHEART24> Live image? i am not familiar
[13:25] <SonikkuAmerica> !live | XHEART24
[13:26] <SonikkuAmerica> XHEART24: It's actually a Live DVD these days
[13:26] <XHEART24> my old pc now has fully installed ubuntu 12.04
[13:26] <SonikkuAmerica> XHEART24: You can also try it from a USB stick
[13:26] <[360]Developer> martinux: i have tested with "sudo vi /var/log/syslog.1"
[13:27] <martinux> sudo vi /var/log/syslog.1
[13:27] <XHEART24> but i am not sure if it will recognize the driver for that wifi device i was planing to buy,
[13:27] <SonikkuAmerica> XHEART24: Oh. Have you tried using the network menu to connect?
[13:27] <martinux> ups
[13:27] <[360]Developer> martinux: this will be a complete sys log
[13:27] <dichotoPangea2> BluesKaj: Right-click --> Audio --> Audio track, the only options are 'Track 1' and 'Disable'.
[13:27] <SonikkuAmerica> XHEART24: Oh. Try Googling it maybe... I dunno
[13:27] <martinux> [360]Developer: seriously, the file is not present. Just syslog, without the .1
[13:27] <XHEART24> i have not purchased the device yet but in some reviews it has it has a bit of problem with Linux
[13:27] <SonikkuAmerica> XHEART24: Which kinds of Linux?
[13:28] <robotdevil> [360]Developer: so those options are there for 13.04
[13:28] <robotdevil> [360]Developer: arent*
[13:28] <BluesKaj> dichotoPangea2, do other media files have audio working ?
[13:28] <XHEART24> do not know exactly, the person that wrote the review did not go to deep
[13:28] <[360]Developer> martinux: is it empty?
[13:28] <martinux> [360]Developer: It does not exist. Vi opens a new file
[13:29] <martinux> [360]Developer: I have searched the folder, and syslog is the only syslog present
[13:29] <[360]Developer> robotdevil:  have you had a look at the unity tweak utility?
[13:29] <caleress> hey guys just installed ubuntu but i dont see any "Additional drivers" for my nvidia gefore gt 650m ... iirc this is susposed to show up by itself ?
[13:29] <dichotoPangea2> BluesKaj: Yes, they do.
[13:30] <[360]Developer> martinux: ok whats your version of ubuntu?
[13:30] <martinux> [360]Developer: 13.04
[13:30] <robotdevil> [360]Developer: yes it only moves them to right for unmaximized windows
[13:30] <BluesKaj> dichotoPangea2, do they have lame encoding as well ?
[13:30] <SonikkuAmerica> XHEART24: It looks like it might, only real way to know is to buy it, stick it in the drive and see.
[13:31] <dichotoPangea2> BluesKaj: It wasn't one I had recorded, this is my first attemp at successful ffmpeg audio recording. But it did play audio in vlc.
[13:31] <anthony_> !list
[13:31] <[360]Developer> robotdevil: i can only suggest to find someone that has written a custom script for this
[13:31] <[360]Developer>  martinux: let me just find out where they have moved this in the new version
[13:32] <caleress> do i need to install them manually ?
[13:32] <martinux> [360]Developer: sure thing
[13:38] <robotdevil> [360]Developer: is compiz installed by default and could ccsm maybe help me?
[13:39] <aLeSD> hi all
[13:39] <aLeSD> I can't play mp4 files: they stops at the first frame ... but I can hear the audio
[13:40] <aLeSD> someone got the same prob ?
[13:40] <martinux> aLeSD: what player are you using?
[13:40] <[360]Developer> robotdevil: compiz is required by unity, I'm sure on ccsm you will need to give it a go and see if it has the options you looking for
[13:40] <aLeSD> vlc and the xubuntu default one
[13:41] <robotdevil> ok
[13:41] <[360]Developer> robotdevil: not*
[13:41] <martinux> aLeSD: and this happens in both? Did you try different mp4 files?
[13:41] <aLeSD> yes 2 mp4 files and I have the same behaviour
[13:41] <aLeSD> same frames then video stops
[13:42] <martinux> aLeSD: if the mp4 files are not from the same origin, I don't know what could be causing it.
[13:42] <aLeSD> maybe it's my cpu
[13:43] <betrayd> aLeSO try launching vlc in terminal to watch for messages
[13:45] <aLeSD> [0x83393c0] avcodec decoder error: more than 5 seconds of late video -> dropping frame (computer too slow ?)
[13:45] <aLeSD> shit!!!!!
[13:45] <dopie> how do i go in a secret directory and edit a file?
[13:45] <aLeSD> holy shit !
[13:45] <dopie> like ,git
[13:45] <SonikkuAmerica> !wtf | aLeSD
[13:46] <aLeSD> sorry !
[13:46] <bekks> dopie: Like always: cd .git
[13:46] <dopie> yes cd .git
[13:46] <dopie> now i have to edit a file there
[13:46] <dopie> how would i do that?
[13:46] <bekks> dopie: nano -w filename
[13:46] <betrayd> aLeSO now in the GUI see if there are options like framedrop to play the video differently
[13:47] <mucha090> bekks: firefox package have issue in quantal-updates repo
[13:47] <mucha090> when i added firefox %u in default-apps in kde
[13:47] <mucha090> just after that i had no issue with caching urls
[13:48] <harris> happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me, happy birthday to harris, happy birthday to me
[13:48] <Eagleman> I am using owncloud so i can access my files from the internet, i want to ( 2 way ) synchronise files between 2 local folders ( owncloud and samba ) however i am having problems achieveing that since the owner of those 2 folders are different, owncloud needs www-data:www-data and my samba folder has user:user, owncloud isnt able to access the samba folder becuase of the rights, is there an
[13:48] <Eagleman> synchronisation tool out there that can also change the owner of a file?
[13:48] <betrayd> harris now make a wish
[13:48] <harris> i did
[13:49] <harris> present time
[13:49] <harris> what did you guys get me
[13:49] <DJones> harris: You know this channel isn't the right place for that
[13:49] <harris> :(
[13:49] <blazemore> !offtopic | harris
[13:50] <bekks> mucha090: Different browsers have a different behaviour.
[13:50] <mucha090> yep but my friend dont have that issue, and he dont give %u
[13:53] <SonikkuAmerica> mucha090: He doesn't give his username?
[13:53] <SonikkuAmerica> lol
[13:53] <bekks> SonikkuAmerica: The parameter "%u" for firefox has nothing to do with an username. It refers to the URL provided.
[13:54] <mucha090> nah
[13:54] <SonikkuAmerica> bekks: Ahh... the Firefox one. I use Chromium. XD
[13:54] <xixi> test
[13:55] <xixi> test
[13:55] <SonikkuAmerica> xixi: You're good. ()
[13:55] <SonikkuAmerica> xixi: Next time try /msg ubottu !ping
[13:55] <seronis> Eagleman: cant you use the 'group' settings to take care of that so both folders are in the same group
[13:56] <Snype> !ping
[13:56] <Snype> lol
[13:56] <Snype> !ping
[13:56] <Snype> !ping
[13:56] <FloodBot1> Snype: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:57] <betrayd> yeah don't do that wesley
[13:57] <Snype> !ping
[13:57] <Snype> it only pings once?
[13:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Snype: Once every ~20 seconds
[13:57] <SonikkuAmerica> But we're getting !ot
[13:57] <Snype> where is the use?
[13:57] <Snype> !ot
[13:57] <Snype> how is the ping command helpful?
[13:58] <seronis> by demonstrating who we use   /ignore *!*@120.59.147.206 on
[13:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Or, in serious cases, calling the !ops
[13:59] <SonikkuAmerica> !DANGER
[13:59] <nabblet> hi, what's currently the most usable itunes alternative in ubuntu?
[13:59] <SonikkuAmerica> (Except in a channel emergency)
[13:59] <[360]Developer> martinux: http://askubuntu.com/questions/287833/screen-suspend-problem-on-ubuntu-13-04
[14:00] <SonikkuAmerica> nabblet: Hmm... If you need access to your iTunes songs, etc., try using iCloud; otherwise, get gtkpod maybe
[14:01] <martinux> [360]Developer: I will try that soon :) Thanks for taking the time to search!
[14:01] <nabblet> SonikkuAmerica: hm,dunno... i have to setup a laptop for my sister and i know she has an ipod and uses itunes. dunno if she uses icloud... what about rythombox, amarok and so on... don't they have ipod capabilities?
[14:02] <SonikkuAmerica> nabblet: They might, but gtkpod was built for iOS device sync in partic
[14:02] <nabblet> SonikkuAmerica: but that gtkpod looks good
[14:02] <[360]Developer> martinux: anytime just let me know if it works
[14:03] <martinux> [360]Developer: I will, just gotta win this chess match
[14:03] <nabblet> SonikkuAmerica: i think i will put on gtksyn - she still has her old vista (*yuk*) laptop with itunes (*eeew*) on it in case gtkpod does not work
[14:04] <SonikkuAmerica> nabblet: (eew is right. :P) OK
[14:04] <bekks> nabblet: Without itunes, it isnt possible to sync the apps, nor to update IOS.
[14:04] <nabblet> bekks: ipod has apps?
[14:05] <nabblet> bekks: oh, srry, i should have set my question more specific
[14:05] <sienez> how can I make an (older) kernel version available for grub? I have it /lib/modules, as I installed from a deb package, but when I reboot, it's not available for select
[14:05] <nabblet> bekks: SonikkuAmerica my sister has only an ipOd, NO ipAd
[14:06] <Eagleman> seronis, but when some one places a file in owncloud, the user and group becomes www-data:www-datya
[14:07] <zykotick9> sienez: did you try running "sudo update-grub" to see if it's automajically added?
[14:07] <SonikkuAmerica> nabblet: iTunes won't even run under Wine these days...
[14:08] <nabblet> SonikkuAmerica: to be honest - i have no intention to give her itunes on this laptop :P
[14:09] <nabblet> SonikkuAmerica: also, i already had my small victory - she said she doesn't need skype anymore, and will jitsi instead :D (because it can do facebook :P )
[14:09] <martinux> [360]Developer: Just FYI. I g2g but if you're still here when I get back I will tell you if it worked or not. Thanks again!
[14:09] <[360]Developer> martinux: no stress thx man
[14:10] <sienez> zykotick9, thanks, I did now, but still missing my kernel
[14:11] <sienez> although the output from update grub mentioned it
[14:11] <betrayd> nabblet does jitsi also provide cam function?
[14:11] <sienez> I'm on 12.04 btw
[14:12] <zykotick9> sienez: if you saw it mentioned in update-grub, it _should_ be there?  do you have more then 1 gnu/linux installs on this box?
[14:12] <nabblet> betrayd: yes! i jjust tested it
[14:12] <nabblet> betrayd: that thing can do SIP and jingel too
[14:12] <betrayd> nabblet thanks for the heads up
[14:12] <sienez> zykotick9, no. I have dualboot ubuntu and win7. When I ran update-grub all kernel versions were mentioned and even the win7 partition
[14:12] <minixvm> sienez: older kernels are under a submenu in grub
[14:12] <nabblet> betrayd: to be honest i was surprised how good it works - it has even share desktop
[14:13] <sienez> minixvm, yes, I noticed but it's not there either
[14:13] <sienez> maybe I missed something when I installed the kernel?
[14:14] <sienez> I downloaded a deb from ubuntuupdates page and simply ran it
[14:14] <minixvm> sienez: only the kernels in the official repos are supported here, downloading debs is not recommended
[14:16] <sienez> minixvm, so how can I download a specific kernel version from the reps? In synaptic I could not find it
[14:16] <minixvm> sienez: are you sure the version you want is in the repos?
[14:17] <minixvm> sienez: the latest kernel is 3.8 in the repos
[14:17] <sienez> Yes because on another machine it was installed with automatic updates
[14:17] <sienez> I want 3.5.30, but I have 3.5.32
[14:17] <pr0ph3t> hi all
[14:18] <sienez> ah sorry. 3.5.0.30 it is
[14:18] <minixvm> sienez: the repos will only hold the latest of whatever package there is
[14:18] <pr0ph3t> anyone else having problems with Ubuntu 13.04 64bit aptitude full-upgrade? Is it Empathy finally being fixed?
[14:19] <sienez> minixvm, ok this means I have to rely on debs from other sources, no?
[14:19] <SonikkuAmerica> pr0ph3t: Release upgrading?
[14:19] <SonikkuAmerica> pr0ph3t: How did you try to run it?
[14:19] <Rarrikins> pr0ph3t: No, `sudo aptitude full-upgrade` works for me.
[14:20] <pr0ph3t> There are too many unresolved dependencies. SonikkuAmerica just like that aptitude update and aptitude full-upgrade
[14:21] <SonikkuAmerica> pr0ph3t: Did you try [ do-release-upgrade ]?
[14:21] <SonikkuAmerica> pr0ph3t: Excuse me, [ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ]?
[14:21] <sienez> zykotick9, sorry I made a mistake. It was actually not mentioned in update-grub. I missed a number there
[14:22] <sienez> zykotick9, so after running the deb, how do I get the kernel from /lib/modules to /boot?
[14:23] <bekks> sienez: in /lib/modules, the modules for a kernel in /boot reside.
[14:23] <pr0ph3t> SonikkuAmerica, not since last upgrade. The unmet dependencies are with mutter-common and libmutter0a and libmutter0b
[14:24] <pr0ph3t> Rarrikins, it must be due to some extra ppas I have then, thanks
[14:24] <stlre> how can list only the regular files with ls
[14:24] <stlre> ?
[14:24] <stlre> please help
[14:24] <bekks> stlre: ls lists files and directories by default, and hides "hidden" files, by default.
[14:24] <nonxa> Hi guys, I need some help
[14:24] <nonxa> I am trying to flash my linksys router with dd wrt
[14:24] <nonxa> and I have to use tftp, I've tried to install it but the commands related to it don't respond :/
[14:24] <nonxa> What can I do ?
[14:24] <FloodBot1> nonxa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:24] <sienez> bekks, How do I make a module, which is in /lib/modules but not in /boot available at startup?
[14:25] <[360]Developer> stlre: by "ls *.cpp" if yu need more info "man ls"
[14:25] <betrayd> stlre type man ls in a terminal so you can see all its options
[14:25] <bekks> sienez: You dont do such things. You install a kernel package (.deb) and it install the kernel to /bott and the modules to /lib/modules
[14:25] <stlre> ty guys!!
[14:25] <[360]Developer> stlre: cool
[14:26] <sienez> bekks, ok. well.. mine didn't
[14:26] <bekks> sienez: Yes, and manually downloading a kernel package and having problems with it - is just not supported in here, as someone told you before.
[14:27] <sienez> bekks, yes I understand. What I really want is to be able to boot into an older version of the kernel. I don't care where I get it from. If it is possible through apt-get, I will prefer that way
[14:28] <bekks> sienez: Press shift in grub, and select an older kernel.
[14:28] <pr0ph3t> SonikkuAmerica, thanks
[14:29] <Rarrikins> stlre: ls -lF|sed '/[/]$/d'
[14:29] <pr0ph3t> he's gone
[14:29] <sienez> bekks, the kernel I want to boot is not installed yet! also if I press shift, nothing happens.
[14:29] <sienez> bekks, my current kernel is 3.5.0-32 but I want to boot 3.5.0-30
[14:29] <stlre> thank you
[14:30] <minixvm> sienez: sorry, i was wrong, they are still available in the repo
[14:30] <sienez> minixvm, cool! how to search for them?
[14:31] <minixvm> sienez: i prefer to use synaptic, you can just use the search feature there and type kernel
[14:32] <minixvm> sienez: you on 12.10?
[14:32] <betrayd> synaptic GUI beats all
[14:32] <sienez> minixvm, 12.04
[14:36] <Mech0z> how do I get a SMART reading on a SSD in terminal
[14:36] <Mech0z> want to see wear level count
[14:37] <minixvm> sienez: search in synaptic
[14:37] <[360]Developer> Mech0z: have a look at "man hdparm" if this helps
[14:41] <sienez> minixvm, thanks, I got it now!
[14:43] <minixvm> !yay | sienez
[14:43] <clcto> o/ says the drunk
[14:43] <sienez> :D
[14:45] <clcto> wtf is 360? xbox 360? really?
[14:45] <bekks> !wtf | clcto
[14:46] <clcto> oh sry i thought this was archlinux-offtopic sry bbl
[14:47] <clcto> wrong channel happens sometimes
[14:52] <Ponch0> I'm having issues minimizing windows in unity 13.04, It just freezes. Does anyone know what may be causing the issue?
[14:53] <Fieldy> Ponch0: i've had many similar issues with unity in 12 and 13 on many different systems, I ended up installing xfce and running that instead. all those problems went away. something is really screwy with unity
[14:54] <Ponch0> Fieldy: Ah, unfortunately I'm not using Unity by choice, I was on ubuntu-gnome but after last nights update something went broke.
[14:56] <ow> Okay, so I have a most fun dilemma. My very short question is this: Ubuntu 13.10; I've got an integrated intel video card, and a seperate Radeon card. By default, it's booting using the intel one. Is there a kernel command line I can use to make it use radeon?
[14:56] <gartral> hey all, i'm on ubuntu 12.10 anf some update in the past few days broke flash partially, there are certain flash applications that refuse to run for me
[14:57] <ow> and my other question: Is ctrl+alt+backspace (warning for the unaware: This is supposed to kill X, almost like a force-reboot of your computer) disabled by default, and how do I enable it if so?
[14:58] <gartral> ow: it's more of a soft reboot, and instructions on making it work again are here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgCtrlAltBackspace
[14:58] <BluesKaj> ow , you have to choose the default graphics card in the bios
[14:58] <ow> BluesKaj: bios doesn't let me.
[14:59] <gartral> ow: what bios do you have?
[14:59] <rmbell> i have an analog audio device and hdmi audio (which comes out my monitor, didnt even know it had speakers until now!). Default output is set to analog and everything uses it, except for java. It auto-changed itself to hdmi audio after using my pc on my pc. (fglrx drivers for hdmi)
[14:59] <BluesKaj> ow , does the pci card show ?
[15:00] <rmbell> er my pc on my tv heh
[15:00] <ow> BIOS pretty much doesn't let me do anything except change the time and date, boot order, and enable/disable vt
[15:00] <ow> one moment
[15:00] <ow> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series]
[15:01] <ow> the one it's using, however, is 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[15:01] <gartral> ow: those are your graphics card, what board.BIOS do you have?
[15:01] <gartral> cards*
[15:01] <sienez> suppose I know the name of a header file. how do I find out which package or library contains the file?
[15:02] <bekks> sienez: You can use package.ubuntu.com for searching for that file.
[15:02] <ow> gartral: I dunno, how do I find out? (It's a HP Pavilion g7 laptop)
[15:03] <gartral> ow: ah, it's a laptop, now I have something to work with
[15:03] <ow> it seems like there should be a simple blah=radeon or something like that
[15:03] <sienez> bekks, the site has no search function?
[15:03] <bekks> sienez: The site I just told you has a search function.
[15:04] <sienez> bekks, true, sorry!
[15:05] <gartral> ow: well that depends on what hardware handels the switch, if worse comes to absolute worse.. you could always look at a custom .rc
[15:06] <chvx> does swap or swap in file does have any diffrences?
[15:06] <ZAVA> hola
[15:06] <bekks> chvx: swap in a file is potentially slower, but you wont notice it.
[15:07] <gartral> chvx: be careful though, if set up incorrectly you could have a potential security hole, or.. a RAM-hole..
[15:08] <jayn> afG12345
[15:08] <chvx> bekks: ok, haha an ram-hole :]
[15:09] <gartral> chvx: I'm serious, it's caused when a swapfile can be written to and not read from.. has a nasty habbit of breaking things very quickly
[15:09] <bekks> chvx: Trust him, he isnt fooling you.
[15:10] <gartral> ow: have you gotten to the point where you can install the proprietary drivers?
[15:10] <pr0ph3t> the gnome3 ppa is messing things up
[15:11] <chvx> bekks: i have heard that double the space for swap if i wanna have hibernate. is it right?
[15:11] <gartral> bekks: I did that in a VM once just to see how badly it would break.. yea, OOMs everywhere
[15:11] <bekks> gartral: Expected :)
[15:11] <bekks> chvx: No.
[15:11] <bekks> chvx: You need 1x RAM as swap plus a few MB for overhead.
[15:11] <gartral> chvx: no, but a *little* overhead is always needed
[15:12] <bekks> chvx: The times you needed 2x are gone for about - 20 years now.
[15:12] <gartral> chvx: rule of thumb for every 1024MB (1GB) ram, add 10MB
[15:13] <cappicard> hey folks. has anyone else been getting a frame file wanting to be saved every time they play a youtube video in chrome or firefox?
[15:13] <gartral> argh
[15:13] <chvx> still ubuntu partion an 6gb of swap
[15:14] <chvx> which is my RAM
[15:14] <betrayd> cappicard maybe try a different browser
[15:14] <bekks> chvx: 6.1GB for swap will be fine then.
[15:14] <cappicard> but this is happening in both linux and windows
[15:14] <ow> gartral: I can install proprietary drivers, but if I install the proprietary radeon drivers (frglx or something like that), the window manager won't load - i.e. no bar on the side etc, but the desktop background does show and you can right-click on it
[15:15] <christaras> Hello. I would like to ask you a question. I am currently using windows 8 and because i hate them i would like to use Ubuntu 13.04. My question is: Will it keep my files such as images/videos/music or will it completely erase it.
[15:15] <pr0ph3t> empathy just does not work properly, my google accounts keep needing authorisation, yahoo accounts cannot be set up, when are they going to fix it?
[15:15] <betrayd> cappicard even a different video?
[15:15] <cappicard> on every video
[15:16] <sharpie> My session managers are still unable to start XFCE4.  End up with a blackscreen.
[15:16] <gartral> ow: that's.. too be expected, actually, and the fix is, sadly, don't use Unity
[15:16] <[360]Developer> christaras: do a complete backup of your files first
[15:16] <betrayd> cappicard did you install a YT extension or downloader?
[15:16] <bekks> christaras: Depends on you install it. I'd backup everything before, if you want to ensure that you will not lose anything, no matter what happens.
[15:16] <sharpie> Can someone read my GDM logs and tell me what happened?  http://pastebin.com/8vGbXf6C
[15:16] <bekks> sharpie: Why dont you tell us what happened? :)
[15:17] <chvx> bekks: if i want to hibernate?+
[15:17] <bekks> chvx: Yes.
[15:17] <christaras> I want to upgrade without making a backup. My data is about 50GB and i have no space or any usb storage to store them at.
[15:17] <bekks> christaras: Ah, so you data isnt worth to be kept. Ok.
[15:17] <gartral> christaras: changing your OS isn't like an upgrade, even when you dual-boot there's *ALWAYS* a risk of complete data loss
[15:17] <gartral> or rather, when you set up for dual-bootng
[15:18] <sharpie> New install.  Update two days ago~~, now after I log in blackscreen with mouse pointer.
[15:18] <christaras> I am just asking if ubuntu can keep the files when installing because i've been told that it can in some senarios
[15:18] <Ari-Yang> .
[15:18] <[360]Developer> christaras: no, install ubuntu in windows 8 and use the dual boot option
[15:19] <bekks> christaras: Yes, and in some it cant. You are at risk losing your data. So back it up. Or dont back it up if you dont mind losing it.
[15:19] <[360]Developer> christaras: keep both OS
[15:19] <bekks> [360]Developer: There is no wubi anymore in 13.04 afaik. And its the worst solution.
[15:19] <christaras> unfortunately i cant as my hard drive has not enough space for running two os'es (around 100GB)
[15:20] <[360]Developer> bekks: darn! , ok then install 12:04 and upgrade
[15:20] <pr0ph3t> christaras, just to put things into perspective: I have been using linux since 1998 and installed several versions of mandrake, slackware, gentoo, debian, ubuntu etc, and so far not even once I had a complete data loss. But it is still possible of course
[15:20] <bekks> [360]Developer: wubi is the worst solution possible.
[15:20] <gartral> christaras: there's no direct way, because of the way ubuntu, or any OS, Windows, OSX, or *NIX-like has to change the contents of the drive..
[15:21] <[360]Developer> bekks: his going to loose his file
[15:21] <douguoda> 在
[15:21] <bekks> [360]Developer: Yes, because he dont have a backup. Thats the point.
[15:21] <douguoda> 新人报道
[15:22] <gartral> !cn | douguoda
[15:22] <christaras> Ok guys thank you. I will give it a try. I will just make sure that my sensitive data is safe.
[15:22] <bekks> christaras: Yeah, create a backup. Thats the only way to ensure it.
[15:22] <gartral> christaras: you could always back up to DVDs
[15:23] <[360]Developer> christaras:  bekks is right
[15:24] <BoredomKills> hi
[15:24] <BoredomKills> I'm wondering about the EFI Boot in Ubuntu
[15:24] <[360]Developer> BoredomKills: hey
[15:24] <BoredomKills> right now I have it running
[15:24] <douguoda>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[15:24] <christaras> I do agree keeping a backup is the best way to ensure the safety of data but 50Gbs of data is hard to store. Especially in dvds. I will need 11-12
[15:24] <gartral> BoredomKills: it's fast
[15:24] <BoredomKills> yeah....
[15:25] <BoredomKills> and I successfully installed in into a 3.0 USB Drive
[15:25] <douguoda>  /join #ubuntu-tw
[15:25] <minixvm> christaras: then why haven't you already got a backup solution in place?
[15:25] <BoredomKills> however I have one problem
[15:25] <sharpie> Can someone read my GDM logs and tell me what happened?  http://pastebin.com/8vGbXf6C
[15:25] <BoredomKills> when Grub-EFI starts up
[15:25] <sharpie> New install.  Update two days ago~~, now after I log in blackscreen with mouse pointer.
[15:25] <bekks> christaras: Dual-layer dvds, or just an external harddisk.
[15:25] <BoredomKills> I see a lot of options of Windows EFI that does not exist anymore
[15:25] <BoredomKills> Is it possible to delete those?
[15:25] <christaras> Because it costs XD. Anyway i though of online backup but i am afraid of it...
[15:26] <bekks> christaras: Does it cost more than the effort of recreating your data? If not - buy it. :)
[15:27] <bekks> christaras: 50GB upload will take ages. And restoring it will take ages too.
[15:27] <gartral> christaras: you have a few options.. one, use a different computer to back everything up to. Two, buy an external HDD.. (a 320 gig is about $50-60 US) or thirdly.. DVDs
[15:27] <christaras> Well you are right. Probably i have to buy an external hard disk.
[15:27] <BoredomKills> Does anyone know about removing options from grub-efi?
[15:27] <BoredomKills> I tried running update-grub and see no changes...
[15:28] <sharpie> chirstaras: Another option is backup over network to another pc
[15:28] <douguoda> 如何看到中文
[15:28] <christaras> i have no other pc
[15:28] <BoredomKills> douguoda: I can see ur chinese
[15:29] <gartral> alright, I'm annoyed, I have one.. ONE stupid little flash game that I play, and it isn't working, I'm not having any other issues but Super Mechs (http://www.supermechs.com) refuses to load, and it isn't just the version on their site, it refuses to load from anywhere that it's on!
[15:30] <gartral> can someone else please try and load it so i can see if it's just me or if their game has gone full-idiot
[15:31] <Mori__> I inserted a 4.7GB DVD
[15:31] <DJones> gartral: I get This page requires Flash Player V11.1 and above
[15:31] <Mori__> but brasero says that it's only 2.2GB big :O ?
[15:31] <BoredomKills> ermm... anyone have any experiences over efi?
[15:32] <surfdaemon> christaras: or get two, then you'll have three sets of data.
[15:32] <gartral> DJones: ok, so it isn't just me..
[15:32] <neorosbob> HI all, I'm stuck on a static route issue on a 802.3ad lagg group. Can anyone help shed some light on what I'm doing wrong? http://pastebin.com/EZJtWwtY
[15:32] <christaras> For me the Flash game is working just fine.
[15:33] <neorosbob> actually, the lagg group probably has nothing to do with it, but might.
[15:33] <gartral> DJones: if you look in about://plugins run a recent Ubuntu, you'll notice that flash should be higher that that version... looks like Adobe broke flash for linux AGAIN
[15:34] <BoredomKills> anyone have any exp on efi??
[15:38] <BoredomKills> anyone have any experiences with EFI?
[15:38] <neorosbob> HI all, I'm stuck with a static route issue on an LACP interface. Can anyone help me understand what I'm doing wrong?
[15:38] <neorosbob> details here http://pastebin.com/EZJtWwtY
[15:39] <martinux> [360]Developer: You here?
[15:39] <BoredomKills> ?
[15:39] <[360]Developer> martinux: yip
[15:39] <martinux> [360]Developer: The fix did not help
[15:39] <neorosbob> BoredomKills: you mean like the Firmware interfaces EFI?
[15:40] <BoredomKills> grub-efi
[15:40] <BoredomKills> when you boot Ubuntu through grub-efi
[15:40] <BoredomKills> you see that screen that has the options of what to boot
[15:40] <neorosbob> ah, what's the issue
[15:40] <[360]Developer> martinux:  did the terminal popup?
[15:40] <martinux> [360]Developer: Nope
[15:40] <BoredomKills> I'm having a lot of extra boot items that I want to delete
[15:40] <DJones> gartral: Mine shows 11.2r2-2 on 13.04 in Chromium
[15:41] <[360]Developer> martinux: ok back to the drawing board
[15:41] <DJones> gartral: Have to go now
[15:41] <martinux> [360]Developer: btw the last time I tried to wake it from suspend I heard a sound, like the ubuntu login-sreen
[15:41] <martinux> [360]Developer: Maybe indicating that the monitor is the issue?
[15:41] <[360]Developer> martinux: maybe the x system
[15:42] <martinux> Not sure what that is :p Did you ever find where 13.04 stores the syslog.1 file?
[15:42] <neorosbob> BoredomKills: That's just a text file entry. Is this what you are looking for? http://askubuntu.com/questions/176322/removing-old-kernel-entries-in-grub
[15:43] <[360]Developer> martinux: being on askubuntu without success
[15:43] <minixvm> martinux: /var/log/ i assume
[15:43] <martinux> minixvm: It's not
[15:44] <[360]Developer> guy's where is the syslog stored on 13.04??
[15:44] <neorosbob> if syslog.1 is not in a standard place you can look for is using lsof to see the full path of the open file
[15:44] <martinux> I did tell you that the 'syslog' IS stored in /var/log , yes?
[15:44] <BoredomKills> neorosbob: Not really, that's for the old grub system
[15:44] <minixvm> martinux: thats where it is on 13.04 for me
[15:45] <BoredomKills> neorosbob: Mine is that Other than Ubunut and the Advanced Options, I have like 6 other Windows EFI
[15:45] <martinux> minixvm: really? that's weird
[15:45] <BoredomKills> that I can't boot
[15:45] <minixvm> martinux: thats where its always been
[15:45] <martinux> 'lsof | grep syslog.1' returns nothing
[15:45] <martinux> how about for you minixvm ?
[15:46] <minixvm> martinux: i opened the folder and looked, its there
[15:46] <martinux> Yeah I was just wondering if lsof showed it to you, I'm not familiar with the command
[15:47] <martinux> Why would I be missing a syslog, then..
[15:47] <neorosbob> BoredomKills: I got you, this is on newer systems with UEFI hardware. That's a tough one. I'd be of no better use than googling around for you.
[15:47] <[360]Developer> martinux: "ls /var/log" anything?
[15:47] <terretz> question: is there a way to see an entire directory tree?  example: I want to see entire structure of /etc/ldap/slapd.d
[15:47] <betrayd> martinux try without the .1
[15:47] <neorosbob> There should be a standard way to remove those in grub2 for UEFI but I've never had to do it
[15:48] <BoredomKills> neorosbob: nahz, thanx for responsing. I have tried to google as much as I could...
[15:48] <BoredomKills> seems like efibootmgr was supposed to be able to do it
[15:48] <BoredomKills> but it didn't though...
[15:48] <BoredomKills> I
[15:48] <martinux> [360]Developer: Yeah. I have all the normal log files, including 'syslog'
[15:48] <martinux> but not syslog.1
[15:48] <BoredomKills> think it might have something to do with editing the actual .efi file...
[15:48] <neorosbob> martinux: lsof run on it's own will show all open files on the system including network sockets. 'lsof | grep syslog.1' should get you there
[15:49] <[360]Developer> martinux: you say syslog is empty?
[15:49] <martinux> neorosbob: So when it returns nothing it means I don't have a file called syslog.1 ?
[15:49] <neorosbob> BoredomKills: I think you are right. It should be a text file with entry lines for each boot image just like old grub
[15:49] <martinux> [360]Developer: Nono
[15:49] <martinux> [360]Developer: syslog is full
[15:50] <[360]Developer> martinux: cool ok then post on pastebin
[15:50] <neorosbob> martinux: correct, but keep in mind that a log file named with a .1,2,3 etc behind it is a log file that has been rotated out typically by logrotate
[15:50] <martinux> oh I thought there was something special about syslog.1
[15:50] <BoredomKills> neorosbob: I don't really think so... the efi is in hex..
[15:50] <betrayd> martinux .1,.2 are backups of syslog
[15:50] <martinux> oh man. sorry [360]Developer
[15:50] <neorosbob> BoredomKills: I think it's a text file with a hex entry in it. But I'm just speaking of vague far back in the bast memory
[15:51] <martinux> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5690306
[15:51] <gartral> arrgh
[15:51] <neorosbob> BoredomKills: poke around in the grub menu and see if you can find your way. I bet the grub command line will let you do it
[15:51] <martinux> [360]Developer: there you go, syslog from a restart after suspend
[15:52] <[360]Developer> martinux: cool will run through it
[15:53] <BoredomKills> neorosbob: The grub command line?
[15:53] <neorosbob> martinux: did you follow what I was saying about logrotate? For example I set logrotate to keep 4 previous versions so I will have a syslog.1 syslog.2 syslog.3 and syslog.4 but the only open file would be /var/log/syslog since that is the active file being logged to
[15:54] <martinux> neorosbob: What is the purpose of keeping 5 versions? I can see why you want 1 backup, but not 4?
[15:54] <neorosbob> BoredomKills: yes, just run grub with no args
[15:55] <BoredomKills> I got grub is not installed
[15:55] <BoredomKills> lolz?
[15:55] <neorosbob> martinux: if your server produces a lot of log data you may want to rotate them out to keep the files smaller. This allows you to keep more log data with smaller file sizes and also protects you from a log file filling your filesystem
[15:56] <chvx> how much swap does i need? my RAM is 6GB
[15:56] <minixvm> chvx: just over 6GB if you want to hibernate
[15:56] <neorosbob> martinux: it will only prevent you filling your filesystem if you run logrotate often enough to stay on top of it. That's why a lot of high traffic servers will often use syslog to a logging server so you don't have to manage it on local disk
[15:57] <neorosbob> BoredomKills: apt-get install grub
[15:57] <neorosbob> or sudo apt-get install grub
[15:57] <martinux> neorosbob: I see :)
[15:58] <martinux> [360]Developer: Dinner is ready. I'll highlight you when I come back, /msg me if you leave before telling me something usefull :D
[15:59] <[360]Developer> martinux: cool i will
[15:59] <Snype> wtf?
[15:59] <Snype> omfg
[16:00] <Snype> martinux, [360]Developer just told me something he will never tell you
[16:00] <neorosbob> HI all, I'm stuck with a static route issue on a bonded interface. Can anyone see what I am missing here? http://pastebin.com/EZJtWwtY
[16:00] <[360]Developer> !wtf | Snype
[16:00] <Snype> oh it is so useful!
[16:00] <Snype> u warned me for wtf or omfg?
[16:01] <minixvm> Snype: neither are acceptable here
[16:01] <Snype> it depends on how to interpret them
[16:01] <Snype> for me wtf: where the food
[16:01] <Snype> and omfg: oh my food good
[16:01] <Snype> if u havent guess
[16:01] <Snype> i am fat
[16:01] <neorosbob> Snype if you are looking for a friend please pursue your interests on a dating IRC channel. This is for people seeking technical wisdon, not adolescent behavior
[16:02] <Snype> u mean wisdom?
[16:02] <Snype> its ok
[16:02] <Snype> it happens
[16:02] <neorosbob> who cares, you can read between the lines
[16:02] <Snype> dont be embarrassed
[16:02] <[360]Developer> Snype 120.59.147.206
[16:02] <RK> Hi there ! where launching a job offers service. Would appreciate a lot if you can help us answer a very short poll (6 points). Thanks a bunch. http://goo.gl/zLgfD
[16:02] <Snype> [360]Developer, ?
[16:02] <Snype> finding ips on irc?
[16:02] <Snype> such a win
[16:03] <Snype> you have won:
[16:03] <Snype> my laughter! :D
[16:03] <[360]Developer> Snype: its only one step
[16:03] <Snype> sure
[16:03] <Snype> take another one
[16:03] <Snype> if you can that is
[16:03] <Snype> good luck
[16:03] <FloodBot1> Snype: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:04] <Snype> [360]Developer, 41.13.96.224
[16:04] <Mori__> lol
[16:04] <Snype> easy peasy
[16:05] <TsukasaUjiie> quick question. Will I encounter any problems using cron to execute a python script at boot? this script contains an infinite loop (its a server of sorts) and I do not want it to terminate. Is this an efficient way of doing it?
[16:05] <Snype> no
[16:05] <TsukasaUjiie> no as in it wont be a problem?
[16:05] <Snype> your cpu usage will already be high
[16:05] <bekks> TsukasaUjiie: Its a pretty bad way.
[16:06] <Snype> and python loops consume a lot of cpu too
[16:06] <Snype> put time.sleep() in python loop
[16:06] <bekks> TsukasaUjiie: Create an init script, and run it in the background.
[16:06] <TsukasaUjiie> yeah it uses time.sleep
[16:06] <Snype> and it does not consume a lot of cpu?
[16:06] <Snype> on its own that is
[16:06] <TsukasaUjiie> no
[16:06] <Snype> then you should be good
[16:06] <TsukasaUjiie> awesome
[16:06] <Snype> :)
[16:06] <TsukasaUjiie> so cron will not terminate it at all? :)
[16:06] <schnuffle1> TsukasaUjiie:  I would create an init script as well
[16:06] <Snype> no
[16:07] <Snype> all cron does is execute a thing
[16:07] <lrcaballero> has anybody tried Pantheon DE? on Ubuntu 13.04? If so, what has been your experience?
[16:07] <Snype> you could always screen detach it
[16:07] <Snype> sudo apt-get install screen
[16:07] <TsukasaUjiie> schnufflel: I would but that would require setting up the script to run as a daemon, which I am to tired to do currently
[16:07] <minixvm> lrcaballero: not supported here
[16:07] <Snype> screen -mds python script.py should be your cron then
[16:07] <TsukasaUjiie> oh
[16:07] <TsukasaUjiie> cool
[16:07] <TsukasaUjiie> Ill give that a shot
[16:07] <Snype> sure
[16:07] <TsukasaUjiie> the format for the cron file would just be "@reboot screen -mds python script.py" yeah?
[16:08] <Snype> yeah
[16:08] <TsukasaUjiie> awesome
[16:08] <TsukasaUjiie> thanks
[16:08] <Snype> screen -help
[16:08] <Snype> would be your best friend
[16:08] <Snype> pm me if you need more help regarding it
[16:08] <schnuffle1> TsukasaUjiie: daemon-tools helps you transofrming your script in a daemon
[16:08] <TsukasaUjiie> awesome thanks
[16:08] <TsukasaUjiie> Ill check that out in the morning :)
[16:09] <TsukasaUjiie> thanks guys!
[16:09] <IdleOne> RK: Please don't advertise your site in the ubuntu channels.
[16:10] <neorosbob> HI all, I'm stuck with a static route in /etc/network/interfaces. Can anyone see what I am missing here? http://pastebin.com/EZJtWwtY
[16:10] <chvx> minixvm: what is hibernate?
[16:10] <neorosbob> writes your active memory to disk and powers down the machine
[16:11] <minixvm> chvx: a feature i never use
[16:11] <Snype> better you sleep @ chvx
[16:11] <neorosbob> so when you power on it's not a boot it just reloads the memory
[16:11] <Snype> sleep-hybrid to be exact
[16:11] <Snype> it has both sleep + hibernate
[16:11] <Snype> its awesome
[16:11] <neorosbob> agree, it is awesome, especially if you have an ssd
[16:11] <Snype> chvx, better use sleep
[16:11] <bekks> Snype: Whats sleep in terms of computerS?
[16:12] <Snype> its when everything in the computer powers down
[16:12] <neorosbob> sleep maintains power state on ram so it uses power where hybernate does not
[16:12] <Snype> apart from the ram
[16:12] <bekks> Snype: Thats called "hibernation".
[16:12] <Snype> so you are in this state of very low power usage
[16:12] <Snype> hibernation is when you dump the ram into your hard disk
[16:12] <Snype> and then you fully power down
[16:13] <bekks> Snype: VEry low power -> suspend, turned off -> hibernation.
[16:13] <Snype> dude thats what i said
[16:13] <Snype> everything except for ram powers down
[16:13] <Snype> so very low power usage
[16:13] <Snype> what are you smoking?
[16:13] <bekks> Snype: You said sleep, I said suspend. Dude, thats something different. :)
[16:13] <bekks> Snype: And dont let it get personal.
[16:14] <neorosbob> sleep = suspend
[16:14] <Snype> You do know sleep and suspend are the same when it comes to computers right?
[16:14] <schnuffle1> neorosbob: isn't only one post-up allowed? So you would need to trigger ascript instead using two post-up
[16:14] <bekks> Snype: No, I didnt know that. Since thats not true.
[16:14] <neorosbob> schnufflel: thanks, trying it now...
[16:14] <Snype> How could you not know it and yet know its not true?
[16:14] <Snype> You definitely are smoking something :D
[16:15] <bekks> Snype: Whatever you might smoke - get back to ubuntu support please.
[16:15] <[360]Developer> bekks: carefull Snype
[16:15] <[360]Developer> knows it all
[16:15] <Snype> he does :D
[16:15] <ichat> haha if it whern't so sad it would have been funny
[16:16] <[360]Developer> this is like playing tag
[16:16] <IdleOne> Can we please stick to ubuntu support and take the chit chat/ cross talk elsewhere.
[16:16] <Snype> where is the big question IdleOne
[16:17] <IdleOne> Snype: #ubuntu-offtopic is a start
[16:17] <Snype> thats still ubuntu
[16:17] <Snype> and what if they raise the same query?
[16:18] <IdleOne> Snype: I'm asking really nice like. Please stop with the off topic comments.
[16:18] <k1l_> !guidelines > Snype
[16:18] <Snype> i just made #IdleOne
[16:18] <Snype> join me there
[16:18] <neorosbob> schnufflel: that doesn't seem to be the case. Trying with a single post-up doesn't add the route. I think it's my syntax
[16:18] <echoe> ...
[16:18] <ichat> btw snypee you ARE wrong btw,  with sleep the system  keep power to the ram  so that the system state is there, with hybernate the system is fully powered off including the ram... so   in contradicution to  sleep,  with  hybernate the system-state is stored on harddisk  has to be  'uploaded'   to the ram again taking more time to be ready again but saving power  (electricity)
[16:19] <neorosbob> ichat: I believe that is exactly what snype and myself both stated.
[16:20] <grobend> HEY VIRGINS
[16:20] <neorosbob> Hi all, I'm stuck with a static route in /etc/network/interfaces. Can anyone see what I am missing here? http://pastebin.com/EZJtWwtY
[16:21] <princej88> !guidelines
[16:23] <[360]Developer> neorosbob: its the same thing, check your flags
[16:23] <Seveas> neorosbob: you don't need those manual routes, the entires /24 is already routed via that dev
[16:23] <ow> What's the program for system preferences? i.e. if I need to start it with DISPLAY=:0 commandhere
[16:24] <neorosbob> I am adding a static route to a host. I have storage on the same subnet and I want traffic to those hosts to use the lagg interface (faster)
[16:24] <neorosbob> so a /24 won't work
[16:24] <martinux> [360]Developer: hey !
[16:24] <[360]Developer> martinux:  hey still working on it
[16:25] <Seveas> neorosbob: the entire /24 goes via the binded interface. Adding specific routes for those hosts has no effect whatsoever.
[16:25] <neorosbob> [360]Developer/Seveas: does that make sense what I just explained?
[16:25] <martinux> [360]Developer: allright. I appreciate it man
[16:25] <neorosbob> not true, I can validate traffic does exactly what I want when I add the routes manually using route add. A test transfer shows traffic on the lagg interface using iftop
[16:26] <neorosbob> where the default route is on the interface br2 where I can validate traffic does not flow through that interface
[16:27] <Seveas> ow: gnome-control-center
[16:27] <Seveas> neorosbob: then the output you pastebin'ed is fake. It clearly show the /24 routed via bond0
[16:28] <[360]Developer> neorosbob: the last time i created a bonded setup i had to not only setup the bond0 with address and so on but also setup eth0 and eth1 aswell
[16:28] <neorosbob> Seveas: on the top route output yes but on the bottom you can see the additional host routes
[16:29] <neorosbob> [360]Developer, the bonded interface is working fine. It's the static route to the 2 hosts that doesn't work in my interfaces config but works when I add manually
[16:29] <Seveas> neorosbob: both show the /24 being routed via bond0 - the routes for those hosts have no effect unless you've been faking that output.
[16:30] <[360]Developer> neorosbob: then a quick patch would be a bash script on start up
[16:30] <Seveas> 172.21.249.0    *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 bond0
[16:30] <[360]Developer> brb
[16:35] <neorosbob> Saveas: fair enough, I will need to remove the route you mention for this to work, but the problem at hand still remains that my interfaces file syntax does not add the routes
[16:35] <neorosbob> so my logic on the routes are incomplete as you mention, but my problem is still un-addressed
[16:36] <weicheng> anyone here ?
[16:36] <k1l_> !ask | weicheng
[16:36] <gordonjcp> weicheng: hundreds and hundreds of people
[16:37] <weicheng> OK , got it  , and  my  question is  why  my pidgin cannot  login  IRC  ?
[16:37] <neorosbob> [360]Developer:  I could do that. Thanks. However I suspect my syntax or context is wrong in my /etc/network/interfaces file. I typically use centos so I'm a newbie to ubuntu. So I think I am doing something wrong
[16:38] <weicheng> I have to  use  Xchat  to  login  irc  now
[16:39] <Snype> all linux are same
[16:39] <Snype> you are newb on all linux
[16:39] <weicheng> pidgin  cannot  connect  irc  anymore ?
[16:39] <Snype> or you are not newb
[16:39] <Snype> neorosbob, ^^^^
[16:39] <weicheng> yes  , I'm  newb
[16:41] <k1l_> Snype: focus on the helpful part of this technical support channel. if you want to chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:41] <iceroot> is there a way to have flash on ubuntu (arm)?
[16:41] <weicheng> means to  install  flash  ?
[16:42] <bekks> iceroot: On arm - I guess not.
[16:42] <IdleOne> iceroot: #ubuntu-arm should be able to help
[16:42] <iceroot> weicheng: installing and using
[16:42] <iceroot> IdleOne: thx
[16:42] <IdleOne> but I don't believe so
[16:43] <Znoosey> iceroot, have you tried gnash?
[16:43] <Znoosey> i think that is what it is called...
[16:43] <weicheng> ..
[16:44] <iceroot> Znoosey: unluckily not working with the videos i am trying
[16:44] <Znoosey> ah
[16:44] <Znoosey> then i'm out of ideas
[16:45] <iceroot> as it seems flash is build for android on arm v7.
[16:45] <Znoosey> i think it depends on which SoC you are using
[16:45] <iceroot> but with specific extensions my hardware is not offering
[16:46] <betrayd> weicheng you have the irc plugin for pidgin, how did you isnatll it
[16:46] <neorosbob> Seveas: I believe this is what you were driving at http://pastebin.com/cM3yPjXY however the problem still remains my synatx/context is not correct in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:47] <q_> can someone walk me through manually installing Flash player?
[16:47] <IdleOne> Phryq: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[16:48] <betrayd> neorosbob if it didn't complain about syntax in commandline, then its something else
[16:49] <betrayd> quit blaming the guy if he was at the movies when it happened
[16:50] <iceroot> neorosbob: your issue is that the del line is not working?
[16:50] <iceroot> neorosbob: and its still the default?
[16:50] <neorosbob> betrayd:  I'm assuming it's my context rather than syntax. Coming up blanks here. I've made this work hundreds of time on redhat/centos. Just not wrapping my head around what I'm missing here
[16:51] <neorosbob> iceroot: del line is working. The route was there before I ran it and gone after I ran it
[16:51] <betrayd> neorosbob, none of the hardware or cabling has changed since?
[16:52] <Seveas> neorosbob: well, if you keep faking output I'm not going to waste more time on you
[16:52] <betrayd> since centos or fedora days that is
[16:52] <neorosbob> betrayd: no, I basically setup my lagg group this morning, got it working and started on this. I have a bonded interface in a switch with storage on bonded interfaces and a 3rd interface (bridge) which carries the default gateway to the same subnet
[16:53] <neorosbob> betrayd: so I can use 'route' at the command line and get all working great, just can't seem to make it persistant on reboot
[16:54] <Phryq> IdleOne, I mean how to install it from the downloaded package on the site.
[16:54] <Phryq> The software centre gives me an error; I've been trying to fix it all day and have given up
[16:54] <Phryq> (software centre gives me an error message for a whole bunch of things)
[16:54] <IdleOne> Phryq: is it a deb package?
[16:54] <neorosbob> Seveas: why would I fake output? If you don't want to help that's fine, but don't accuse me  if you don't understand the problem/solution
[16:55] <IdleOne> neorosbob: if anyone here can help you it is Seveas.
[16:55] <Phryq> it's a tar.gz
[16:56] <IdleOne> Phryq: there should be a README file in that archive with instructions.
[16:56] <Phryq> "install_flash_player_11_linux.x86_64.tar.gz" when I look inside I see some files having to do with KDE, though I'm running Ubnity
[16:57] <betrayd> uh oh kde, was it the right repo?
[16:57] <IdleOne> Phryq: what files do you see that have to do with KDE?
[16:57] <Phryq> wait, can Ubuntu use rpm?
[16:57] <Seveas> Phryq: get rid of that tar.gz and simply install the adobe-flashplugin package from the repositories.
[16:58] <betrayd> i guess that answered my question
[16:58] <minixvm> Phryq: no
[16:58] <handuel> Phryq: there is a converter called alien
[16:58] <IdleOne> why do you need to use package from the adobe site?
[16:58] <Phryq> it won't let me install from the repo
[16:58] <minixvm> !rpm | Phryq
[16:58] <Seveas> hmm
[16:58] <IdleOne> Phryq: why won't it let you install from the repos?
[16:58] <Seveas> that fact should really be s/apt/dpkg/
[16:58] <handuel> also at one point on my system I did have rpm installed, somehow, but I removed it before it broke anything
[16:58] <TheUsD_> Anyone in here familiar wth owncloud?
[16:58] <handuel> !APT
[16:58] <Phryq> it's a clean install. In fact I did a new install of ubuntu *just* to make flashplayer work. I'm really frusterated
[16:58] <Seveas> !rpm =~ s/apt/dpkg/
[16:59] <Seveas> Phryq: enable the 'partner' repo and install the adobe-flashplugin package. Done.
[16:59] <handuel> OH... it's still installed: samuel@samuel-ubuntu:~$ rpm --version RPM version 4.9.1.1
[16:59] <handuel> is that bad
[17:00] <Seveas> handuel: no, that's fine
[17:00] <TheUsD_> Can someone help me out with OwnCloud? I have a question about upload size limits.
[17:00] <IdleOne> Phryq: why won't it let you install from the repos?
[17:00] <handuel> Seveas: Ok, Why is it there :D
[17:00] <handuel> ah alien depends on it
[17:00] <Phryq> after enabling the partner repo, do I need to restart or update or anything?
[17:00] <luk01> I managed to boot a btrfs-converted ext4 root filesystem, I can give you info, if you wish
[17:00] <handuel> as does logmein-hamachi :D
[17:01] <luk01> (Xubuntu 12.10)
[17:01] <k1l_> TheUsD_: did you ask the owncloud support already?
[17:01] <handuel> Phrq: no
[17:01] <IdleOne> Phryq: why won't it let you install from the repos?
[17:01] <handuel> Phryq: actually you may need to sudo apt-get update, but deffinetely no reboot
[17:01] <Phryq> pastie.org/7993615
[17:02] <IdleOne> Phryq: is it giving you an error when you try to install it?
[17:02] <Phryq> yes, the error I pastied
[17:02] <TheUsD_> KlL: No, I didnt look to see if there was an IRC channel :p
[17:02] <Ari-Yang> what's the recommended music player for ubuntu or linux? like one of the best?
[17:02] <plankton> I pressed delete key on a folder in my pendrive, and Ubuntu without message deleted it. But, pendrive size didn't change, so I think that data still there. How can I recover/show this folder again?
[17:02] <Phryq> I can a similar error trying to install a whole bunch of things.
[17:02] <weichengki> :-DHello  ,  everyone
[17:03] <Phryq> About 50% of the programs I try to install give me an error like this
[17:03] <handuel> Phryq: try sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get install -f
[17:03] <handuel> Phryq: and then try again
[17:04] <Phryq> handuel. I did that earlier today but I'll try it again for good measure
[17:04] <handuel> Phryq: ok... odd
[17:04] <Guest10648> hello, where located keyboard layout files in ubuntu?
[17:05] <Phryq> I got a message at the end saying there were a bunch of packages installed automatically and are no longer required. Should I remove them?
[17:05] <Seveas> Phryq: are you ignoring me?
[17:05] <Seveas> I've given you the solution multiple times already...
[17:05] <Phryq> no
[17:05] <handuel> Phryq: you may as well. sudo apt-get autoremove
[17:06] <Phryq> Seveas, I tried it it didn't work
[17:06] <Guest10648> please let me know where I can find where keyboard layout files?
[17:06] <Phryq> you mean when you suggested enable partner repos, right?
[17:06] <Seveas> Phryq: pastebin full command and output
[17:07] <betrayd> plankton the size will change if they're gigabytes, otherwise the fielsystem will 'fill it up' no worries
[17:08] <TheUsD_> hello, I was wondering if someone could help me out with increasing upload limit sizes.
[17:08] <TheUsD_>  I am using Ubuntu 12.04 server, as the host. Win7 machines as clients (if that matters)
[17:09] <Phryq> Seveas, I was using the gui. What command do I use to install with terminal?
[17:09] <TheUsD_> KlL: owncloud room is dead :(
[17:09] <Seveas> TheUsD_: what server software do you use, and what's the limit?
[17:09] <Phryq> adobe-flashplugin 11.2.202.285-0raring1?
[17:09] <Seveas> Phryq: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[17:10] <TheUsD_> Seveas: I'm not sure abou the server software (had a friend set it up) but the limit is 512mb.  I believe it is owncloud server software
[17:11] <Seveas> TheUsD_: first hit on google for owncloud file size: http://owncloud.org/support/big-files/
[17:11] <plankton> betrayd, right... so I can't recover this lost data? (in straight way) because I hit delete on folder without my wish.
[17:12] <Seveas> Phryq: pastebin full command and output
[17:12] <Seveas> err, mispaste, sorry
[17:12] <Phryq> shit. It worked this time!
[17:12] <IdleOne> !language | Phryq
[17:12] <Seveas> Phryq: well, waddayaknow. Sometimes you just need to give it a smack on the head :)
[17:12] <Phryq> Seriously. I've spend almost the entire day trying to make it work. I don't know why it worked now
[17:13] <Phryq> oh, sorry
[17:13] <Seveas> Phryq: because now you had #ubuntu backing you up. This room is magical :)
[17:13] <Phryq> haha, actually I was in this room earlier too.
[17:14] <Seveas> then it must be my awesomeness :)
[17:14] <Seveas> as I wasn't in here before
[17:14] <betrayd> Seveas must have given it an offer it couldn't refuse
[17:14] <Phryq> Chromium still won't install though. It is having the same problem. I'll give the output in a second
[17:15] <Phryq> http://pastie.org/7993645
[17:15] <Seveas> Phryq: apt-cache policy chromium-browser
[17:15] <Seveas> and pastebin output
[17:15] <Phryq> http://pastie.org/7993647
[17:16] <Seveas> seems decent. More debugging info needed
[17:16] <TheUsD_> if I type in  "sudo find / -name php.ini" is it supposed to cycle through all the files? I guess then it stops when it finds a matching file(s)
[17:16] <Seveas> more /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | cat
[17:16] <Seveas> and pastebin output
[17:16] <Seveas> TheUsD_: that will visit your entire filesystem
[17:17] <Seveas> TheUsD_: try /etc instead of / -- that's where config files generally arte
[17:17] <Seveas> s/te$/e/
[17:17] <TheUsD_> Seveas: ok thanks. Does ctrl c stop the search?
[17:17] <IdleOne> yes
[17:18] <TheUsD_> thanks
[17:18] <hpage> just got an update message from ubuntu and clicked the Yes, Upgrade Now button and nothing happend do i need to update manually
[17:18] <digitaly> hello - I have installed remmina-plugin-xdmcp and enabled xdmcp with lightdm per the wiki, but it logs in to a black screen with cursor from my client
[17:18] <digitaly> any ideas?
[17:18] <imaginaryfool> hello all
[17:19] <Phryq> Seveas. Would you recomend installing from terminal using apt-get rather than using the software centre gui?
[17:19] <hpage> gui is faster
[17:19] <Seveas> Phryq: I would recommend that you do that command I just gave and pastebin the output so I can see how messed up your repositories are :)
[17:19] <iceroot> Phryq: technicly there is no difference, for debuging apt-get is nicer
[17:19] <iceroot> Phryq: its easier for us when we have apt-get errors instead of descriptions that the software-center was producing an error
[17:20] <Seveas> Phryq: as to installing: I prefer the command line, because I *live* in the terminal. When it comes to errors, there's no difference. What fails in the one, will fail in the other.
[17:20] <imaginaryfool> im relearning the terminal install
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> i like terminal speed for apt-get
[17:21] <Phryq> I think I already pasted it, you mean this one? http://pastie.org/7993647
[17:21] <Seveas> no, the one ofter that
[17:21] <Seveas> more /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | cat
[17:22] <Phryq> http://pastie.org/7993666
[17:23] <IdleOne> looks good
[17:23] <iceroot> Seveas: cat file1 file2 foobar*  :)
[17:23] <Seveas> iceroot: nope. more foo bar baz | cat
[17:23] <iceroot> Seveas: useles use of a pipe and more
[17:23] <Seveas> more adds the filename to the output. Rather useful in this case
[17:24] <Seveas> not useless at all. Try it :)
[17:24] <plankton> betrayd, nevermind, I got how thing works. Thanks. :)
[17:24] <Seveas> Phryq: apt-cache policy libnss3-1d
[17:25] <Phryq> http://pastie.org/7993672
[17:26] <Seveas> hmm, so it's available. sudo apt-get install libnss3-1d -- and when that fails because of a dependency: apt-cache policy that_dependency_here
[17:27] <Phryq> you want output for sudo apt-get install libnss3-1d ?
[17:27] <pozori> what's a good cd-rip like ExactAudioCopy for Linux?
[17:27] <Seveas> and the apt-cache of that failing dependency
[17:28] <Phryq> http://pastie.org/7993683
[17:28] <Phryq> oh, I see
[17:28] <phunyguy> pozori: anything that supports cdparanoia
[17:28] <pozori> phunyguy: like?
[17:28] <Phryq> so I should type "apt-cache policy libnss3" ?
[17:28] <Seveas> yeah
[17:28] <phunyguy> abcde is a cli app
[17:28] <phunyguy> command line
[17:29] <phunyguy> works well, pozori
[17:29] <Seveas> Phryq: and we can go deeper. Try to install libnss3. And if that fails on a dependency, try to install it. Continue until you get a more useful error
[17:29] <phunyguy> if you want GUI, there is ruby ripper but I don't think it is included in the repos
[17:29] <Phryq> http://pastie.org/7993690
[17:29] <Phryq> looks like it's already installed?
[17:30] <IdleOne> it is
[17:30] <Seveas> Phryq: aha!
[17:30] <Seveas> Phryq: you installed something from an unofficial repo and now it's screwed up
[17:30] <Phryq> no, that would make sense, but this is a fresh install
[17:30] <Phryq> the only thing I've installed is x-chat
[17:30] <Seveas> it can't be.
[17:31] <Phryq> because that's the conclusion I came to before, so I reinstalled the OS
[17:31] <Guest10648> so? noone knows where located kayboard layout files?
[17:31] <Phryq> I didn't even have any other repos enabled until you suggested enabling cannonical partners
[17:31] <Phryq> oh, and now I have Flash as well
[17:32] <trism> Phryq: actually looks like your mirror is messed up
[17:32] <trism> Phryq: because 2:3.14.3-0ubuntu1 is the current raring version
[17:32] <Phryq> I'm in Kuwait, if that means anything
[17:32] <trism> Phryq: I would try a different mirror
[17:32] <Phryq> how do I do that?
[17:32] <IdleOne> maybe changing to the main canonical server, just so you can make sure you have updated packages
[17:32] <Phryq> that would explain why I have so many different programs that won't install
[17:33] <Seveas> Phryq: sudo sed -e 's/kw.archive/gb.archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:33] <yax51> hello
[17:33] <Phryq> thanks
[17:33] <Seveas> that'll make you use the english mirror
[17:33] <Seveas> then do sudo apt-get update
[17:33] <Phryq> no feedback for "sudo sed -e 's/kw.archive/gb.archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list", right?
[17:33] <Seveas> but looking at that mirror, it doesn't seem too bad, so this may not help
[17:33] <Seveas> Phryq: correct
[17:33] <yax51> I am trying to make a script to run a command to fix the flipped webcam issue I have, but I can't remember hot to make a script :/
[17:33] <IdleOne> Phryq: no news is good news
[17:34] <Phryq> Wow, I'm learning a lot. You guys rock
[17:35] <IdleOne> Phryq: now sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:37] <Phryq> IdleOne, it's like you knew exactly when my update would finish to give me the new command ;)
[17:37] <Seveas> Phryq: that's because he has access to your computer and is watching you
[17:38] <weicheng> ;-)
[17:39] <pozori> phunyguy: okay abcde is cli but super easy, thanks!
[17:39] <Shariff> Hi there
[17:40] <Phryq> haha, you're joking, right Seveas?
[17:40] <Phryq> anyway, upgrade is done. Should I try an install?
[17:40] <A1Recon> How do I copy a CD in Ubuntu? Its a VCD
[17:40] <Seveas> Phryq: well, you run sudo commands we give you, likely without fully understanding what they do. Pretty much equivalent to having root :)
[17:40] <Seveas> and yeah, try installing chromium-browser
[17:41] <mjuszczak> Somehow my /boot is full.... http://pastebin.com/UqFG4bps  -- can anyone let me know why?  sudo apt-get update / upgrade keeps failing because it's running out of space.
[17:43] <phunyguy> mjuszczak: 'sudo apt-get autoremove'
[17:43] <downbeam> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME WITH AMULE PLEASE?
[17:43] <Phryq> wow, it seems to be working!
[17:43] <phunyguy> !caps
[17:43] <IdleOne> mjuszczak: uninstall old kernels (keep the two newest) and delete some logs /etc/var/
[17:43] <Seveas> mjuszczak: it's full because you didn't remove old kernel packages. Try removing linux-image-3.8.0-22 avd linux-image-3.8.0-21
[17:43] <TheUsD_> Seveas: Do you have any OwnCloud experience?
[17:43] <Phryq> thanks so much. You guys are my saviors!
[17:43] <Phryq> (knock on wood because it's still installing)
[17:43] <TheUsD_> Seveas: I followed those instructions, but its still only allowing 512mb of upload.
[17:44] <IdleOne> TheUsD_: you restarted Apache?
[17:44] <Seveas> TheUsD_: no, I have never actually used OwnCloud. Did you restart apache after making the required changes?
[17:44] <TheUsD_> Restarted whole machine
[17:44] <Seveas> IdleOne: stop stealing my thunder!
[17:44] <Mori__> another problem: I'm tryinbg to burn a window 8 image with brasero.
[17:44] <Mori__> it took some time to burn it, but now he is building the ckecksum for half an hour.
[17:44] <Mori__> but the title of the window says 100% completed.
[17:44] <Mori__> so can i cancel it???
[17:44] <FloodBot1> Mori__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:44] <Phryq> I was actually about to give up on linux altogether. I love that I actually found out what the problem was and then fixed it.
[17:44] <downbeam> PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME
[17:44] <IdleOne> TheUsD_: the rest of those intructions stated you might need to edit php.ini iirc
[17:45] <Seveas> downbeam: cut it out. Caps just get you banned and you're unlikely to get support for p2p crap in here.
[17:45] <IdleOne> TheUsD_: I don't have the site open but I did see something about editing another file in case it didn't work
[17:46] <mjuszczak> thank you
[17:46] <TheUsD_> sevas:  Idleone:  when I went into the php.ini and found the upload_max_filesize it said 2M   and not 512M     I increased the value to 107520M
[17:46] <TheUsD_> i will investigate that
[17:46] <phunyguy> !caps | downbeam, HIT YOUR CAPS LOCK
[17:47] <IdleOne> TheUsD_: you edited that before or after the reboot?
[17:47] <martinux_> I'm on ubuntu 13.04, and my laptop does not wake up properly from suspend. The screen remains black after waking up from suspend, and I can't do anything. Anyone have any possible solutions to this?
[17:47] <Phryq> it worked
[17:47] <Mori__> I'm tryinbg to burn a window 8 image with brasero. It took some time to burn it, but now he is building the ckecksum for half an hour, but the title of the window says 100% completed. So can i cancel it???
[17:47] <TheUsD_> Idleone: I edited, then rebooted.
[17:47] <IdleOne> TheUsD_: see if there is a #owncloud
[17:47] <phunyguy> Mori__: it is safe to cancel
[17:47] <Mori__> thx
[17:47] <IdleOne> oh, you said it was dead.
[17:48] <TheUsD_> Idleone: went back into php.ini and it shows the increased value.  I did go in there but it was dead :(
[17:48] <A1Recon> How to copy cd in ubuntu? I have to copy a VCD!!
[17:48] <IdleOne> TheUsD_: that channel would be best place to get help, patience is a requirement when seeking unpaid support :)
[17:48] <TheUsD_> idleone: haha I know, but it looks like a ghost chatroom
[17:49] <downbeam> but seriously will someone help me?
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> downbeam: you could try asking a question maybe
[17:50] <Shariff> what would I need if I want to work remotely (on a windows box) with an X-interface rather than an ssh terminal?
[17:50] <downbeam> my eD2K in amule will not connect and i don't know why?
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> downbeam: you run ubuntu on your pc?
[17:51] <phunyguy> !info amule
[17:51] <Seveas> Shariff: a vnc client on the windows box and a vnc server on the ubuntu box
[17:52] <Shariff> Seveas: Thanks!
[17:52] <Crosant> what to do if your livesystem finds your HDD but the installer not? I'm using 12.04 LTS
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> Shariff: teamviewer comes in handy for short remote desktop work
[17:53] <Shariff> lotuspsychje: I will check that out immediately.. So I don't have to set up all kinds of SSH tunnels and stuff?
[17:53]  * Shariff is pretty (=extremely) new  :)
[17:53] <Phryq> ah, I love the feeling of a system that is not broken in any way. It's been almost a year since I've had one.
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> Shariff: no teamviewer is easy and can run on ubuntu aswell
[17:53] <IdleOne> Shariff: correct, teamviewer handles all that
[17:53] <Shariff> Excellent!
[17:54] <Mansomi> nice
[17:54] <Shariff> Thanks a lot!
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> Shariff: but remember ssh is the safest way
[17:54] <Mansomi> yes
[17:54] <Seveas> and the command line is addicting
[17:54] <Shariff> lotuspsychje: Aye.. this is just to get things going.. right now it's not working with me :)
[17:54] <Shariff> So I'm going to reinstall with X, rather than without and see if I can make xbmc work :)
[17:55] <Crosant> xbmc uses frame buffer AFAIK
[17:55] <SuperLag> I have a spare hard drive in this ThinkPad, and I'd like to experiment with installing another distro. I want to ensure that my Ubuntu install remains untouched. Can I do this by simply adding an entry to GRUB for the other drive's install?
[17:56] <downbeam> lotuspsychje, yes i have 13.04
[17:56] <SuperLag> Seveas: how is it addicting?
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> downbeam: you got a router blocking maybe
[17:56] <Shariff> Crosant: I don't know what that means :) I'm stuck on a message that xbmc is unable to open a display :)
[17:57] <Shariff> So I'm thinking, that might be because I installed ubuntu server.. with no X running
[17:57] <betrayd> SuperLag the new install's grub portion will be the new grub then
[17:57] <downbeam> i dont think so but i am at the coffee shop lotuspsychje
[17:57] <Mansomi> hi friebro
[17:57] <SuperLag> betrayd: so it would take over?
[17:57] <phunyguy> downbeam: that would be your problem
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> downbeam: coffee shops are mostly secured for stuff to download
[17:57] <phunyguy> any sensible free wifi provider will block filesharing stuff
[17:57] <betrayd> SuperLag yes
[17:58] <betrayd> uperLag and have the most entries
[17:58] <SuperLag> betrayd: I'll have to check BIOS/EFI to see if I can tell it to boot from that drive first...
[17:58] <downbeam> lotuspsychje, i dont think so but i am at the coffee shop the reason i think that is because when i'm at home my Kad will not connect becasue of a firewall so if it's not blocked at how why would it be blocked here
[17:58] <SuperLag> betrayd: or would letting the new install's GRUB take over be fine?
[17:59] <Crosant> no idea?
[17:59] <betrayd> SuperLag besure it knows how to deal with EFI
[17:59] <phunyguy> downbeam: trust me, it is blocked.
[17:59] <SuperLag> betrayd: I'm just not sure, with the new GRUB, how to add entries to it. The recent GRUB config files are *way* more verbose than anything I ever created with Gentoo.
[17:59] <downbeam> thanks
[18:00] <PinkSwing> Hi. I want to route two different audio players to two different sound cards so I can playout on one and preview on the other. Is JACK my only option? Is it fairly easy to setup?
[18:00] <betrayd> they'd ahve to be with stuff like efi,etc that are recent. How long ago was gentoo
[18:00] <martinux_> I'm on ubuntu 13.04, and my laptop does not wake up properly from suspend. The screen remains black after waking up from suspend, and I can't do anything. Anyone have any possible solutions to this?
[18:00] <SuperLag> betrayd: Ohhhh... 2007-2008 :)
[18:00] <Seveas> PinkSwing: yes, jack would be the tool to use. And there are manuals for it on the great google, no idea how easy it is to set up, never used it.
[18:01] <minimec> PinkSwing: gstreamer can do that too. pavucontrol would be the tool to use. 'sudo apt-get install pavucontrol'
[18:01] <SuperLag> betrayd: then I switched to Mac, because I had better things to do with my time, than watch/wait for things to compile. Now I'm back to Linux again, because work is moving our apps from Solaris to Linux, and they won't let us bring our Macs to the office anymore. :(
[18:02] <betrayd> hmm open source but closed mindset
[18:02] <PinkSwing> minimec and Seveas: thanks
[18:03] <Seveas> SuperLag: where's that? I'd love to work in a mac-free office :)
[18:03] <SuperLag> betrayd: no, not that at all, actually... it was because some jackass brought a laptop to work with illegal material on it, and ruined it for everyone
[18:03] <SuperLag> Seveas: >:|
[18:03] <betrayd> should ahve skinned him alive
[18:03] <SuperLag> Seveas: there's nothing wrong with OS X.
[18:04] <SuperLag> Seveas: it's incredibly productive to use for work
[18:04] <Seveas> SuperLag: let's agree to disagree and stop there so we don't go offtopic too much :)
[18:04] <SuperLag> Seveas: that said... I'm amazed at how much Ubuntu has improved in the last few years
[18:05] <SuperLag> Seveas: now, if only MS would make Exchange support *easy* on Linux, without requiring hacks upon hacks upon hacks...
[18:05] <Seveas> SuperLag: or anyone else. I don't expect MS to do that :)
[18:05] <Seveas> so I'm happy with *someone* doing that.
[18:06] <PinkSwing> SuperLag: MS have no interest in making things easy for people on free operating systems to bypass their paid one
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> lets take this to offtopic guys
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> its interesting
[18:06] <Seveas> PinkSwing: well, MS seems more and more interested in interoperability these days, to lure people using other oses to some of their products/services.
[18:07] <IdleOne> Good idea #ubuntu-offtopic is in need of good convo
[18:07] <TheUsD> seveas: I re-read that article but it only talks about more editing in IIS...isnt that for windows only?
[18:07] <Seveas> TheUsD: yeah, IIS is windows
[18:08] <TheUsD> sevase: so then I'm stumped, :p
[18:08] <omkar_> hi guys
[18:08] <omkar_> I have mistakenly overwritten the previous data on HP LTO3 tape drive
[18:08] <omkar_> is it possible to recover the earlier data
[18:09] <minixvm> omkar_: from a backup yes
[18:09] <Seveas> omkar_: maybe some professional data recovery can do that, for a pretty hefty fee.
[18:09] <TheUsD> omkar: just take the tape out and flip it over, all data will be there ;)
[18:09] <SuperLag> betrayd: Can't I add an entry to the *existing* GRUB config, that points to the new install on the separate hard drive?
[18:09] <Seveas> minixvm: I'm guessing those *were* the backups :-)
[18:09] <omkar_> flip it over means/
[18:09] <Seveas> omkar_: it means TheUsD is trying to be funny. Ignore him.
[18:09] <TheUsD> :D
[18:10] <omkar_> its an official tape i m bit serious
[18:10] <omkar_> :(
[18:10] <betrayd> SuperLag i'd rather swallow a bag full of razors but yes you always can
[18:10] <SuperLag> betrayd: why?
[18:11] <omkar_> but professionals can retireve the data ...
[18:11] <omkar_> are there any linux commands via which i could recover the data
[18:11] <minixvm> omkar_: professionals also keep backups
[18:11] <betrayd> Installing the other distro will make its own grub. Maybe sync propsed entries from there into existing grub. DOn't let new distro overwrite anything.
[18:11] <Trixboxer> How can I make rpm of current ubuntu kernel ?
[18:11] <minixvm> !recover | omkar_
[18:12] <Seveas> omkar_: go. to. a. professional.
[18:12] <minixvm> Trixboxer: ubuntu doesn't use rpm
[18:12] <bekks> omkar_: If you have overwritten the data, it is lost.
[18:12] <TheUsD> omkar: what format was the tape/filesystem in?
[18:12] <omkar_> i didn't get the phrase professions also keep backups
[18:12] <omkar_> professionals
[18:12] <Seveas> They cost a lot, but if the data it's worth it, don't mess about with it if you don't know what you're doing
[18:12] <Trixboxer> minixvm: Yups !  I need to convert its deb to rpm
[18:12] <theadmin> Trixboxer: Alien can do it
[18:12] <bekks> Trixboxer: Use "alien" then.
[18:13] <omkar_> actually on 1st fileid itself i stopped the write operation
[18:13] <omkar_> using ctrl+c
[18:13] <Trixboxer> but first I need the deb of ubuntu kernel 3.2.0-45-virtual
[18:13] <TheUsD> omkar: what format was the tape/filesystem in?
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | omkar_
[18:14] <bekks> lotuspsychje: Thats pretty useless on a tape :)
[18:14] <Beast1> hi all
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> bekks: cant you recover the tape with photorec?
[18:14] <Seveas> omkar_: none of the people who answered you have any experience with tapes. Go to a professional data recovery company and do not mess about with the rape.
[18:14] <bekks> lotuspsychje: Nope.
[18:15] <Seveas> ouch, bad typo
[18:15] <Seveas> meant tape of course
[18:15] <betrayd> still works
[18:15] <omkar_> :)
[18:15] <omkar_> ok
[18:15] <Crosant> gparted sees my HDD but the 12.04 LTS installer don't want to see it
[18:16] <hs> hello , how to change unity-greeter logo position ?
[18:16] <Seveas> hs: by making your own greeter :-)
[18:16] <theadmin> Trixboxer: You can apt-get -d install it
[18:16] <betrayd> thats how it normally starts
[18:16] <hs> seveas how to do such thing ?
[18:16] <Trixboxer> theadmin: thanks
[18:17] <Trixboxer> theadmin: do you think it can be properly converted to rpm and installed on centos ?
[18:17] <RileyGuy1000> Hello umm where can I get help with windows?
[18:17] <TheUsD> Seveas: actually I have a lot of experience with data recovery. I do it quite frequently in my shop. But I have to get some info on his drive before I can offer some suggestions
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> RileyGuy1000: ##windows
[18:17] <minixvm> RileyGuy1000: \\windows
[18:17] <RileyGuy1000> oh ok thx :P
[18:17] <theadmin> Trixboxer: I doubts it... You can "apt-get source" that kernel and then build an RPM from the source, that'd work better
[18:17] <theadmin> Trixboxer: But CentOS uses fairly old software, I'm not sure there won't be problems with libc and such
[18:18] <Crosant> ...
[18:18] <hs> seveas how to do such thing , making my own greeter. ?
[18:18] <mah454> Hello , I use Ubuntu 13.04 and installed VMware-Workstation-9 on this (Module Patched) . now when run virtual machin receive this message : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5723732/
[18:18] <mah454> How can fix this problem ?
[18:19] <Seveas> TheUsD: ok, I'll take back my comment. Though when it comes to data recovery, using random commands from an irc channel is a horrible thing, all the 'good ideas' many people have will ruin your chances of recovering, so I always tell people to go to a pro.
[18:19] <theadmin> mah454: VMWare is not a supported product, try using Virtualbox instead. Or contact their support about this.
[18:20] <mah454> theadmin: Ask in #vmware , Thank you :)
[18:20] <mdfe> hi, how do i do nomodeset from a raring usb? it says press a key or press F6 but all i get is a broken language menu  with blank options. is my image broken?
[18:20] <bekks> TheUsD: If you had experience, you would know that there is no filesystem on a tape.
[18:21] <jackarg> how would one add music to an ipod touch 4G (jailbroken already) running ios 5.1.1 from ubuntu 12.04. I've encountered all sorts of problems which rendered this impossible.
[18:21] <amarok-tr> hi all
[18:21] <TheUsD> Seveas: I'm dumb as a box of rocks when it comes to ubuntu, vbox, owncloud and etc...(because I've only been a 1 week user :p but when it comes to hardware repair/recovery I can work with that :)
[18:21] <Seveas> !ipod | jackarg maybe something from here?
[18:21] <TheUsD> bekks: yup, I'm just a lying piece of shit douchebag, remember? mute me please.
[18:21] <amarok-tr> in my PC is two OS installed. one is Win7 and the other is Xubuntu
[18:22] <Seveas> TheUsD: minf the language please...
[18:22] <amarok-tr> my keyboard and mouse is over USB connected
[18:22] <IdleOne> !language | TheUsD
[18:22] <jackarg> seveas thankyou I'll look but I think I may still have problems
[18:22] <theadmin> amarok-tr: Don't use Enter as punctuation. State your problem clearly in one message.
[18:22] <amarok-tr> but my Xubuntu dont see  after the USB connections
[18:22] <amarok-tr> why?
[18:22] <TheUsD> Seveas: that was pretty much a direct quote :)
[18:23] <Seveas> jackarg: I wouldn't rule that out, but I know nothing about ipods, so that's the best I could give you :)
[18:23] <betrayd> amarok-tr because this is a busy channel
[18:23] <bekks> TheUsD: I wont mute you, I just set you on ignore again, since your attitude hasnt changed. Its just pointless to talk with you or even read you.
[18:23] <Seveas> amarok-tr: pastebin the output of lsusb please
[18:23] <jackarg> seveas ok thanks, would anyone here know if jailbreaking enables an easier way of tranfering music?
[18:23] <IdleOne> bekks: Please drop it.
[18:24] <bekks> IdleOne: I just did. Sorry for the noise.
[18:24] <theadmin> Could someone please suggest alternatives to Remastersys/UCK/Relinux/Reconstructor... Something that actually works on Raring?
[18:24] <Trixboxer> theadmin: Im not able to download the source using apt-get source linux-virtual
[18:24] <theadmin> Trixboxer: That's because that's a virtual package, specify the full version
[18:24] <hs> hello , how to change unity-greeter logo position ?
[18:24] <compdoc> mah454, Ive never seen that happen, but maybe?:   http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-820554-start-0.html
[18:24] <TmanDu> I'm trying to set my grub to load win7 by default. Internet say GRUB_DEFAULT="windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda2)" but do I need the quotation marks?
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: whats your purpose?
 <Seveas> what you mean with pastebin?
[18:24] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: The best would be to back up my existing system to a Live/installable CD for easier reinstalls
[18:25] <Seveas> TmanDu: why don't you try it?
[18:25] <Seveas> !pastebin | amarok-tr
[18:25] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Well... Or just to create an Ubuntu CD with all my favorite packages
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: aptoncd?
[18:25] <TmanDu> Seveas: I do not wish to harm my computer and have it get an error
[18:25] <Seveas> woah
[18:25] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Does that actually make a bootable one? Hm...
[18:25] <BlueProtoman> I think my gEdit is broken.  When I try and open any text document, it just freezes.  No error messages or anything.
[18:25] <Seveas> k-line mania much?
[18:25] <hs> hello , how to change unity-greeter logo position ?
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: oh that im not sure of
[18:26] <Seveas> I think someone doesn't like irccloud :-)
[18:26] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Oh, well, seems that not -- well I'd like a bootable/installable Ubuntu ISO basically.
[18:26] <apm1> nvidia-cuurent on an LTS also has the same driver that a non LTS release has ?
[18:26] <theadmin> There's live-build but it's confusing the heck outta me
[18:27] <TmanDu> seveas: Plus the webpage I looked at says before that: "everything in the "'s" but then when I shows the example, the quote marks are still there
[18:27] <bureau> Hello! How to compile and install a patched file? as in this link: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Festival#HTS_compatibility_patches
[18:27] <Seveas> theadmin: cd with packages is easy, put the debs in a directory and run reprepro. Don't know about bootable cd's.
 i can not use Xubuntu, i use win7 now. because i cant do nothing on Xubuntu. what must i pastebin?
[18:27] <Trixboxer> theadmin: /root/linux-meta_3.2.0.45.54.tar.gz is 12Kb
[18:27] <Trixboxer> :(
[18:27] <apm1> nvm found the answer
[18:28] <minixvm> Trixboxer: its a metapkg
[18:28] <hs> how to change unity-greeter logo position ?
[18:28] <Trixboxer> minixvm: how can I download real source package ?
[18:28] <Seveas> amarok-tr: heh, try a different usb port?
[18:28] <minixvm> !source | Trixboxer
 i have do that
[18:29] <amarok-tr> but my usb ports dont work
[18:29] <Seveas> bureau: sudo apt-get build-dep festival; apt-get source festival ; apply the patch; dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot; install the generated .deb
[18:29] <keker> the ubuntu website no longer contains the word "gnu" or "linux"
[18:29] <keker> you could have stopped this
[18:29] <k1l_> !ot | keker
[18:29] <Seveas> !pm | TmanDu
[18:29] <martinux_> I'm on ubuntu 13.04, and my laptop does not wake up properly from suspend. The screen remains black after waking up from suspend, and I can't do anything. Anyone have any possible solutions to this?
[18:30] <hs> how to change unity-greeter logo position ?
[18:30] <BlueProtoman> I think my gEdit is broken.  When I try and open any text document, it just freezes.  No error messages or anything.
[18:30] <Seveas> !repeat | hs
[18:30] <BlueProtoman> Any tips?
[18:30] <TmanDu> ubottu: the only respnse I've gotten has been a "why don't you try it?"
[18:30] <raven> any tool for scanning a harddrive for broken sectors?
[18:31] <betrayd> Blue launch from terminal, watch error messages
[18:31] <BlueProtoman> betrayd: What error messages?
[18:31] <betrayd> do the first part you'll see
[18:31] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: So any other suggestions?
[18:32] <TmanDu> I'm trying to set my grub to load win7 by default. Internet say GRUB_DEFAULT="windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda2)" but do I need the quotation marks?
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: not yet mate sorry im searching for something usefull
[18:32] <apm1> !ubuntu server
[18:32] <BlueProtoman> betrayd: I am not getting any output from the terminal, no error messages or anything.
[18:32] <FrantiK> hi i need emergency help
[18:32] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Thanks, well... Most of stuff I find works on Quantal at best :(
[18:32] <handuel> !info
[18:32] <FrantiK> i am trying to install on a dell latitude d600
[18:32] <theadmin> FrantiK: Dial 01189998819901197253.
[18:32] <theadmin> FrantiK: Just kidding, what's your problem?
[18:32] <FrantiK> and the boot is having issues with PAE modules
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: well i like my 13.04 so far :p
[18:33] <Trixboxer> minixvm: I did "apt-get source -b linux-virtual" and it created 10 .deb files of max 10Kb
[18:33] <TmanDu> The example was not very speciffic and before this said example, only said "Everything between the quotes"
[18:33] <handuel> theadmin: *I get that reference gif here"
[18:33] <FrantiK> (googled it, as for now i'm mindfucked beyong belief)
[18:33] <BlueProtoman> betrayd: I just get "Timeout was reached", and then the program stops, ejecting me back to the prompt.
[18:33] <FrantiK> beyond*
[18:33] <betrayd> Blue what command did you type on the terminal
[18:33] <handuel> theadmin: is that the correct number? How did you remember it
[18:33] <BlueProtoman> betrayd: "gedit".  That's it.
[18:33] <minixvm> Trixboxer: because it is a metapkg
[18:33] <theadmin> handuel: idk, fun tune :D
[18:34] <betrayd> Blue try entering a filename for gedit
[18:34] <Trixboxer> minixvm: Sorry but I cant relate a metapkg to a real pkg
[18:34] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Same here, but... Remastersys was dead, it's developer was tired of doing it apparently, both major forks (Relinux and System Imager) are in a frozen state of sorts
[18:34] <minixvm> Trixboxer: a metapkg does nothing on its own, think of it as a pointer, a list of packages to install
[18:34] <TmanDu> I'm trying to set my grub to load win7 by default. Internet say GRUB_DEFAULT="windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda2)" but do I need the quotation marks? The example was not very specific and before this said example, only said "Everything between the quotes"
[18:35] <A1Recon> bresaro gives the error - Installing packages by files isn't supported
[18:35] <A1Recon> This method hasn't yet been implemented.
[18:35] <A1Recon> Any help?
[18:35] <Trixboxer> minixvm: so how do I find pointers location ( real package ) and its src
[18:35] <heikoo> When I start Diablo 2 (wine), Kaffeine stops TV playback with a message "Read error from:". Any way to fix this?
[18:36] <minixvm> Trixboxer: you just said it downloaded 10 packages, didn't you?
[18:36] <Trixboxer> minixvm: but all those seems to be metapackages with max size as 10Kb
[18:36] <skuft> heikoo: might want to ask in #swine
[18:36] <skuft> #wine
[18:36] <skuft> i mean
[18:36] <theadmin> #winehq :P
[18:36] <skuft> yes that one lol
[18:36] <Trixboxer> root root 7.6K Jun  2 00:01 linux_3.2.0.45.54_amd64.deb
[18:36] <heikoo> k
[18:37] <theadmin> Trixboxer: The actual linux image packages have linux-image-VERSION-HERE-FLAVOR-HERE naming format
[18:37] <lotuspsychje> !info remastersys
[18:37] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Tell you is of dead :(
[18:37] <A1Recon> bresaro gives the error - Installing packages by files isn't supported
[18:37] <A1Recon> This method hasn't yet been implemented. please help...
[18:37] <apm1> lotuspsychje, didn't you hear its abandoned /obsolete now
[18:37] <BlueProtoman> betrayd: This is my output so far.  gedit is still trying to load (and license.xml is only 533 bytes).  http://pastebin.com/3LAsc2wG
[18:38] <TmanDu> I'm trying to set my grub to load win7 by default. Internet say GRUB_DEFAULT="windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda2)" but do I need the quotation marks? The example was not very specific and before this said example, only said "Everything between the quotes"
[18:38] <Trixboxer> theadmin: even that is a meta package.  Its giving output as either not found or "Skipping already downloaded file 'linux-meta_3.2.0.45.54.dsc'"
[18:38] <apm1> lotuspsychje, the dude at OS4 is however forking it check that out
[18:38] <trism> Trixboxer: apt-get source linux;
[18:38] <FrantiK> ubuntu kernel requires following features not present cpu pae
[18:39] <FrantiK> is basically what i got
[18:39] <Trixboxer> trism: Picking 'linux-meta' as source package instead of 'linux'
[18:39] <trism> Trixboxer: odd
[18:39] <theadmin> FrantiK: ...Sounds like your computer is really old. I'm not even sure Ubuntu provides non-PAE images anymore
[18:39] <apm1> FrantiK, dude looks like you have a old non pae CPU
[18:39] <minixvm> FrantiK: it means your cpu doesn't support pae (you need that)
[18:39] <FrantiK> as long i can reinstall something
[18:39] <theadmin> FrantiK: You can try using the netinstall CD though and choose a non-PAE kernel
[18:39] <bet0x> Hello Ubuntu users...
[18:39] <FrantiK> its for a computer going in africa without net
[18:39] <FrantiK> and that can therefore still work
[18:40] <devnull__> Working on a visual IDE for kids to program in. It compiles to java source code. Thoughts? https://vimeo.com/67466052
[18:40] <trism> Trixboxer: apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)
[18:40] <FrantiK> i heard 12.04 images were valid but apparently not
[18:40] <FrantiK> which ones support it ?
[18:40] <theadmin> FrantiK: I told you, get the netinstall image
[18:40] <FrantiK> 11.x ? 10.x ?
[18:40] <trism> Trixboxer: though funnily, for me, it says:Picking 'linux' as source package instead of 'linux-image-3.8.0-23-generic', so you'd think linux would work
[18:40] <FrantiK> hmm sure ?
[18:40] <k1l_> devnull__: this channel is for ubuntu support. please keep it clear for the technical support
[18:40] <theadmin> FrantiK: That has a very very generic kernel, and Ubuntu still has non-PAE kernels in the repos so you can have it work with that :)
[18:41] <theadmin> FrantiK: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads - see the "Network installer" section
[18:41] <FrantiK> any boot image customisator ?
[18:41] <FrantiK> and thx :)
[18:41] <theadmin> FrantiK: Was just discussing that... They're all dead it seems :(
[18:41] <trism> Trixboxer: there is also the linux-source package you could install if you just want a kernel with ubuntu patches instead of the whole package
[18:41] <FrantiK> fsck
[18:41] <Trixboxer> trism: Thanks !   apt-get source linux-image-3.2.0-45-virtual seems to be worked
[18:42] <crows674> hello! how do i force my pc to switch back to unity? logging out and selecting unity does not work!
[18:42] <FrantiK> lets see if that netinstall is bitchy
[18:42] <bureau> i have .patch files in home directory, should i copy them to festival diretory? and how to make them work? i'm new to ubuntu so please bare with me
[18:42] <FrantiK> but hey good old hardware mean fine support anyway :p
[18:42] <FrantiK> .... at least in debian so i hope its true for ubuntu too
[18:42] <Seveas> bureau: no, I'll not get naked with you if you don't mind :)
[18:43] <martinux_> I'm on ubuntu 13.04, and my laptop does not wake up properly from suspend. The screen remains black after waking up from suspend, and I can't do anything. Anyone have any possible solutions to this?
[18:43] <crows674> Seveas: are you a grill? :o
[18:43] <Seveas> crows674: no, I'm a barbecue
[18:43] <betrayd> BluemanProto try a different editor e.g.nano. or Change the gtk theme you're using. See if nano will open license.xml (you can drop the dotslash if youo're still in Documents)
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: http://askubuntu.com/questions/190133/what-are-the-alternatives-for-remastersys
[18:43] <Seveas> bureau: let me take a look at the patch and tell you how to use it
[18:44] <crows674> hello! how do i force my pc to switch back to unity? logging out and selecting unity does not work!
[18:44] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Hm, that ubuntu-builder looks interesting, let me check it out
[18:44] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Thanks
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: np mate
[18:44] <A1Recon> bresaro gives the error - Installing packages by files isn't supported
[18:44] <A1Recon> This method hasn't yet been implemented. Please help..... It's kind of urgent...
[18:44] <mango1> i just got ubuntu.. what's my sudu pasword? I shouldn't have i one. I have my password as blank
[18:45] <Seveas> bureau: where did you donwload the patch from?
[18:45] <theadmin> mango1: You can't have a blank password
[18:45] <xirre__> I've been running Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro 13" for about 3 months so far. Using Unix, I host automated servers. With only 3-7% CPU usage from 2 processes and 0% from 8 other servers, my MacBook Pro insists on getting extremely hot. Why is that?
[18:45] <rocklobster690> is there a way to restore disk partitions to previous state?
[18:45] <bureau> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Festival#HTS_compatibility_patches
[18:45] <mango1> the admin1: when did i set it? nothing is working
[18:45] <Ruiseart> mango1: You sudo pasword is the sam as your user password
[18:45] <crows674> mango1: during installation
[18:46] <Seveas> bureau: do you have a link to the actual patch file? I can't find it
[18:46] <betrayd> leave it as nothing, if that works...
[18:46] <bureau> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fe/festival-patched-hts/festival-patched-hts.tar.gz
[18:46] <TmanDu> Mine's kind of urgent as well
[18:46] <bureau> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fe/festival-hts-voices-patched/festival-hts-voices-patched.tar.gz
[18:46] <Xirre> I've been running Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro 13" for about 3 months so far. Using Unix, I host automated servers. With only 3-7% CPU usage from 2 processes and 0% from 8 other servers, my MacBook Pro insists on getting extremely hot. Why is that?
[18:46] <DroidMGD> Hello all. I need a little tech support while trying to root a Droid Bionic. Trying to follow http://http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php?/topic/16518-root-motoshare-2-old-bug-new-exploit/ but install samba command fails with following:
[18:46] <crows674> my problem is the most urgent. ignore everyone else
[18:47] <TaZeR> because macs suck dude
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: and like apm1 says: http://sourceforge.net/projects/os4systemimage/ new remastersys forked
[18:47] <mango1> i've been trying that password, but it doesn't seem to be working. were there any special requirements for the password? like punctuation or something?
[18:47] <crows674> TaZeR: tell me why
[18:47] <TaZeR> there made from apples
[18:47] <DroidMGD> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install libwbclient0
[18:47] <DroidMGD> Reading package lists... Done
[18:47] <DroidMGD> Building dependency tree
[18:47] <DroidMGD> Reading state information... Done
[18:47] <DroidMGD> libwbclient0 is already the newest version.
[18:47] <FloodBot1> DroidMGD: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:47] <Xirre> TaZeR. In all, no computer sucks. It's their specs that judge how they overall are.
[18:47] <DroidMGD> libwbclient0 set to manually installed.
[18:47] <DroidMGD> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[18:47] <Seveas> bureau: ok, add the patch files to the debian/source/ directory in the downloaded package, then add the filenames to debian/patches/series
[18:47] <crows674> "there" haha
[18:47] <TaZeR> probably the apple sauce heating up inside
[18:48] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: That project is currently stalled, only works with Precise and Quantal so far
[18:48] <crows674> hello! how do i force my pc to switch back to unity? logging out and selecting unity does not work!
[18:48] <Xirre> Well, I'd like an answer from someone who isn't as mad against a product that I have fallen against.
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: ah okay
[18:48] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Sure sounds promising though :)
[18:48] <Seveas> bureau: sorry, I mean add the patch files to debian/patches/ not debian/source/
[18:48] <TmanDu> I'm trying to set my grub to load win7 by default. Internet say GRUB_DEFAULT="windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda2)" but do I need the quotation marks? The example was not very specific and before this said example, only said "Everything between the quotes"
[18:49] <Xirre> I migrated from Mac OS X because of their problems and instead got Ubuntu. Instead of giving rants against Apple which I clearly don't like either, you could give a logical answer.
[18:49] <Seveas> TmanDu: yes, the quotes are required in that line, it's part of a shell script
[18:49] <Xirre> All I wanted to know is what I could do for my MacBook Pro to prevent the heating from simple processes that don't even seem to be using much CPU Usage.
[18:49] <TmanDu> Ah, ok then, thanks
[18:50] <A1Recon> brasero gives the error - Installing packages by files isn't supported
[18:50] <A1Recon> This method hasn't yet been implemented.
[18:50] <A1Recon> Any help?
[18:50] <Seveas> TmanDu: I must have misread your question before, as I thought you asked something else :)
[18:50] <Seveas> A1Recon: what are you trying to do?
[18:50] <A1Recon> Seveas: I am trying to copy a VCD?
[18:50] <crows674> Xirre: why do you hate apple_
[18:50] <crows674> ?
[18:51] <Seveas> !ot | crows674
[18:51] <crows674> Seveas: shut up grill :)
[18:51] <mango1> goodness sake, all i wanted to do was run eclipse on ubuntu. and there's 50 hoops to jump through....
[18:51] <AsuMagic> Hi
[18:51] <Seveas> crows674: behave or begone. It's busy enough in here without you being annoying.
[18:52] <crows674> mango1: all i wanted to do is to switch back to unity!
[18:52] <A1Recon> Seveas: I am trying to copy a VCD...
[18:52] <Xirre> crows674: They aren't entirely compatible. They are closed off. I originally got it to develop games and software. But after a year of having it I realized the $2000.00 was not worth it. So I instead switched to Ubuntu and got a VirtualMachine with Windows on it as well.
[18:52] <Seveas> mango1: apt-get install eclipse didn't work?
[18:52] <OerHeks> Xirre, maybe you need fancontrol from the mactel ppa >> https://launchpad.net/~mactel-support/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=raring
[18:52] <crows674> Seveas: stop
[18:52] <Seveas> A1Recon: sorry, can't help with that :(
[18:52] <mango1> my current issue atm seems to be a forgotten sudo password..
[18:52] <AsuMagic> Hi people, I am a bit lost in those channels. Where people can help me about a problem?
[18:52] <AsuMagic> Here?
[18:52] <Xirre> OerHeks: I'll check it out.
[18:52] <mango1> before it was that i didn't have java environment installed
[18:52] <Seveas> mango1: password for sudo is the same as the one you log in with
[18:53] <minixvm> AsuMagic: if you have a ubuntu problem then you can get help here
[18:53] <bureau> Seveas: youre fucking with me?!
[18:53] <crows674> Xirre: why not mac os x + windows in vm?
[18:53] <AsuMagic> Thanks minix
[18:53] <jrib> mango1: you mean you forgot your user's password?  There's no special sudo password, it's just your user's password
[18:53] <Seveas> bureau: no. Why do you think that?
[18:53] <OerHeks> Xirre see your machine > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[18:53] <crows674> Seveas: if you want me gone, answer my question instead of being mean to me
[18:53] <rocklobster690> lol
[18:53] <A1Recon> brasero gives the error - "Installing packages by files isn't supported.This method hasn't yet been implemented."
[18:53] <A1Recon>  Any help? I am trying to copy a CD. And it's kind of urgent.. plz help...
[18:54] <A1Recon> :|
[18:54] <jrib> crows674: don't do that please.  Just ask your question and wait patiently.  If you want to discuss offtopic things like apple, join us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:54] <AsuMagic> So I have a problem with Kubuntu ( Same with Ubuntu ) since ~10.04 ( not sure ). After logging in,  my computer is extremely slow. When I go in sleep and relog, it is fine. Any idea?
[18:54] <Seveas> crows674: I would if I had any idea on what the answer would be :)
[18:54] <sharad_> AIRecon: shoot
[18:54] <Xirre> OerHeks: MacBookPro8,1
[18:55] <minixvm> AsuMagic: what version are you running now?
[18:55] <crows674> jrib: fine
[18:55] <Seveas> AsuMagic: maybe it's the file indexing that's messing with you (it's what made my computer slow until I exorcised it)
[18:55] <rocklobster690> to restore and old partition will I need some 3rd party software or is this possible in Ubuntu
[18:55] <AsuMagic> I am currently on 12.10 with Wubi
[18:55] <A1Recon> sharad_: brasero gives the error - "Installing packages by files isn't supported.This method hasn't yet been implemented."
[18:55] <A1Recon> Any help? I am trying to copy a CD!
[18:55] <mango1> jrib: i believe i removed my user password because I was tired of entering it for everything.
[18:55] <jrib> mango1: removed it how?
[18:56] <AsuMagic> I am currently on 12.10 with Wubi, some people has this bug too because of recent kernels on my computer
[18:56] <mango1> jrib: via the user accounts screen
[18:56] <minixvm> AsuMagic: consider ditching wubi, wubi is being abandoned
[18:56] <minixvm> AsuMagic: do a proper install
[18:56] <donavan01> I have a question for the room... would it be worth it to create a ram drive on my system (I have a enterprise class server im using as a desktop) to speed up normal applications or am I just wasting time and ram .. the hard disks will be 7200 rpm drives setup in a 1+0 hardware raid... ideas ?
[18:56] <jrib> mango1: so what do you want to do now?  Reset the password?
[18:56] <mango1> jrib: password: none, automatic login: on
[18:57] <AsuMagic> sorry little afk
[18:57] <mango1> jrib: well i'd liike to be able to install stuff. if reseting it is what needs to be done, then sure
[18:57] <Seveas> mango1: sudo doesn't work without password iirc, so set a password again.
[18:57] <jrib> !password | mango1
[18:57] <jrib> mango1: follow the "LostPassword" steps
[18:57] <AsuMagic> mini : Many people has that problem WITHOUT wubi too. on asus n50vn ( Almost my computer )
[18:58] <AsuMagic> And I don't want to make a "proper install". Too afraid of losing data.
[18:58] <AsuMagic> I'm in dualboot with W7
[18:58] <minixvm> AsuMagic: i can't really help since i don't use sleep/hibernate or any of those things
[18:58] <mango1> jrib: thanks for the help. this is really encouraging for a total ubuntu noob
[18:58] <bureau> Seveas: just trying to be funny, thnaks anyway
[18:59] <betrayd> A1Recon maybe its showing you the newer message instead of retrieving the right one, try running brasero from terminal
[18:59] <Xirre> OerHeks: After installing the fan package, should I reboot?
[18:59] <minixvm> AsuMagic: making backups prevent data loss
[18:59] <Seveas> bureau: did the patching work?
[18:59] <AsuMagic> back
[19:00] <bureau> no
[19:00] <A1Recon> betrayd: i am typing in "brasero" in the terminal...
[19:00] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Hey, that Ubuntu Builder thing seems to be UCK done right :) Thanks a lot, is awesome!
[19:00] <sharad_> A1Recon: try https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero/+bug/1060507
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> !yay | theadmin
[19:00] <betrayd> A1Recon now try the copy
[19:00] <minixvm> !cookie | lotuspsychje
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> :p
[19:00] <OerHeks> Xirre not sure if you need to reboot for that control
[19:00] <Seveas> bureau: hm, rats. That's going to require more knowledge than you have I'm afraid. If you can wait a few minutes, I'll give it a go. Which Ubuntu version are you on?
[19:00] <AsuMagic> mini : I have no way at all to do backups, and my internet is really slow
[19:01] <flo2dingue> yo
[19:01] <bureau> 12.04 LTS
[19:01] <gordonjcp> donavan01: probably not, no
[19:01] <minixvm> AsuMagic: with respect, if you don't have any means of backup then your data is simply not important to you
[19:01] <gordonjcp> donavan01: isn't that really noisy?
[19:01] <Xirre> OerHeks: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mactel-support/ppa would be the correct command to initiate, right?
[19:01] <flo2dingue> Kepass morouk ?
[19:02] <bureau> Precise
[19:02] <betrayd> que pasa
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> minivxm: many users deserve cookies in this room, better get the cookie-jar :p
[19:02] <donavan01> gordonjcp ... its a touch on the jet engine sounding side yes ... but its not bad unless I have a seriously heavy load on it ... im working on getting it quieted down with som sound dampening and quieter fans
[19:02] <A1Recon> betrayd: No help there....
[19:02] <AsuMagic> minixvm : I have my most important data in a USB key, but I don't want to lose my O/S and all my params
[19:03] <mango1> what does the grub prompt look like?
[19:03] <flo2dingue> What sort of bisness ?
[19:03] <betrayd> AIRecon the terminal isn't showing, meybe try verbose option for brasero
[19:03] <minixvm> AsuMagic: i boot multiple OSes and haven't suffered any data loss (i also keep backups)
[19:04] <jrib> bureau: out of curiosity, are you "ayojoy" on askubuntu?
[19:04] <bureau> yes
[19:04] <flo2dingue> yrs
[19:04] <A1Recon> betrayd: command for verbose?
[19:04] <AsuMagic> Maybe luck. But I don't want to try hell
[19:04] <flo2dingue> es
[19:04] <flo2dingue> gt
[19:04] <flo2dingue> f
[19:04] <flo2dingue> rft
[19:04] <flo2dingue> tr
[19:04] <FloodBot1> flo2dingue: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> !info k3b | A1Recon
[19:04] <A1Recon> betrayd:  -v ?
[19:05] <flo2dingue> windows bug lol
[19:05] <minixvm> AsuMagic: then you should know staying with wubi will mean no more support very soon
[19:05] <betrayd> A1Recon no -g (see man brsero to confirm)
[19:06] <AsuMagic> Apparently, there isn't link with Wubi.. Check that : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/841948
[19:06] <minixvm> AsuMagic: after wubi is no longer supported how are you going to run ubuntu?
[19:07] <AsuMagic> I'll maybe buy an external HDD
[19:07] <AsuMagic> But I don't want to buy something to never use it
[19:07] <minixvm> AsuMagic: why don't you already have one for a backup solution?
[19:08] <Seveas> bureau: the patches worked for me, package is building.
[19:09] <bureau> would you tell me how step by step? please
[19:09] <AsuMagic> minixvm : I made a backup of default W7 on DVDs and my important data is on a USB key.
[19:09] <gordonjcp> donavan01: hah, I have an HP DL380 Gen4 sitting in the workshop here; the naming scheme is aircraft manufacturers and the DL380 is "pilatus"
[19:09] <minixvm> AsuMagic: then why are you afraid of installing a proper dualboot?
[19:10] <gordonjcp> donavan01: big noisy turboprop monster that it is, issuing "sudo poweroff" only takes it down to ground idle and it's *still* the noisiest machine in the room even in poweroff state
[19:10] <_dirk_> question guys!!!.............. i was going to download the iso to put xubuntu or lubuntu on my system... but instead i found out about sudo tasksel... will this work as well
[19:10] <w30> [part
[19:10] <AsuMagic> Because I don't want to reinstall all the system, settings, and programs..
[19:10] <gordonjcp> _dirk_: you could just say "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[19:11] <AsuMagic> The DVDs was gave by Asus in case of problem
[19:11] <mango1> so i'm trying to change my password now. it says; passwd: Authentication token maniuplation error
[19:11] <Seveas> bureau: here's the package http://www.kaarsemaker.net/static/downloads/festival_2.1~release-1ubuntu2_i386.deb
[19:11] <minixvm> AsuMagic: wubi was never meant to be used for a full system (its only meant as a testing environment)
[19:11] <brycevan> I have some questions about how to install damn small linux over the network using ubuntu am I in the right forum?
[19:11] <minixvm> AsuMagic: honestly, running ubuntu in a vm is a better solution
[19:11] <theadmin> brycevan: No, and this isn't a forum :P
[19:11] <_dirk_> ok and now i swithed over to xubuntu desktop and i really see no difference... ???
[19:12] <brycevan> Oh thanks for that usless information
[19:12] <bureau> i use ubuntu 64 bit
[19:12] <AsuMagic> If I'm using ubuntu, it is because of performances, minixvm . And the slowness of W7 will be added on ubuntu
[19:12] <donavan01> gordonjcp ... havent decided on a name for this beast of mine yet but it will have to be something that inspires the sense of noise... still getting some parts for it as I was given the poweredge R710 from a freind and it was pretty well stripped out
[19:12] <donavan01> still tyring to fingure out what all I want to do with it
[19:13] <brycevan> Oh I guess I go elsewhere... thanks for the help..
[19:13] <minixvm> AsuMagic: using wubi as a long term system is a very very bad idea, i'm trying to help you away from it, your choice though
[19:13] <_dirk_> apache
[19:13] <AsuMagic> Well
[19:13] <sharad_> i am using ubuntu server 12.04. what can i use as its GUI? How?
[19:13] <AsuMagic> I think I'll don't use it anymore, but about my principal problem?
[19:14] <martinux_> I'm on ubuntu 13.04, and my laptop does not wake up properly from suspend. The screen remains black after waking up from suspend, and I can't do anything. Anyone have any possible solutions to this?
[19:14] <AsuMagic> There isn't link with wubi.
[19:14] <Seveas> bureau: ah well, here's the commands I used, you should be able to reproduce it with those
[19:14] <_dirk_> those are loud and scary
[19:14] <Seveas> https://gist.github.com/seveas/5691420
[19:14] <Seveas> well, except the scp :)
[19:15] <Seveas> sharad_: blasphemy. Servers shouldn't have a gui :)
[19:15] <Seveas> sharad_: but if you want a gui, install the ubuntu-desktop package.
[19:15] <_dirk_> anyone...???? will i notice a difference switching to xubuntu desktop... except my background is now gone?
[19:16] <donavan01> _dirk_ the desktop managers are differnet so yes but I happen to prefer xfce to unity
[19:16] <AsuMagic> _dirk_ : So you was on ubuntu desktop? Yes, a lot
[19:16] <sharad_> Seveas: i know..:P just wanted to show some kids tht it isn't anything to be afraid of..:)
[19:16] <sharad_> Seveas: anything lighter than that?
[19:16] <Seveas> sharad_: oh, you should be afraid of Ubuntu *MUHAHAHA*
[19:16] <Seveas> sharad_: xubuntu-desktop maybe
[19:17] <sharad_> Seveas: haha.. thanks..:)
[19:17] <_dirk_> ok well i logged out and switched to xubuntu and nothing has changed except my background is now black... what did i do wrong?
[19:18] <AsuMagic> _dirk_ : Are you sure packages are installed without errors
[19:18] <AsuMagic> _dirk_ : Retry installing packages and see if it says you have them already
[19:19] <AsuMagic> Execept 1,2 for examples because of an error
[19:19] <_dirk_> i could literally throw this computer against the wall and piss on it
[19:19] <marco> ciao
[19:19] <bekks> !wtf | _dirk_
[19:19] <AsuMagic> _dirk_ : Making boomerang with heartcard is much funnier. i already did it.
[19:19] <Guest66675> !list
[19:20] <AsuMagic> !list
[19:20] <AsuMagic> Wut?
[19:21] <_dirk_> maybe i didn't sign out properly...  ASUMAGIC... ya it read no errors.... how do you sign out properly... i think i just switched users? would that matter?
[19:21] <_dirk_> no i'm still logged in a dirk..
[19:21] <mango1> ok. here's what i'd like at this point. how do i reformat ubuntu so it starts from scratch?
[19:22] <AsuMagic> _dirk_ : Well I am not a pro of ubuntu, but you should try to ask it on forums
[19:22] <AsuMagic> if no people answer here
[19:22] <_dirk_> Mango1... bios from boot
[19:22] <bureau> Seveas: if i download gist, ill get .tar.gz not .deb and its i386 isnt that for 32 bit systems?
[19:23] <floDDF7> nerds
[19:23] <floDDF7> You must to compile
[19:23] <floDDF7> to have a .amd64.deb
[19:23] <Seveas> bureau: eh? That gist is just a list of commands I used. Just do the same and you'll end up with a patched package.
[19:23] <_dirk_> i'm gona try one more time cross your fingers for me and lets all pray to the gods
[19:24] <AsuMagic> mango : If you want to reformat everything, launch your HDD in window and buy a new one. much faster
[19:24] <floDDF7> zafre
[19:24] <mango1> _dirk_: i'm in the gnu grub screen
[19:24] <floDDF7> j
[19:24] <floDDF7> i
[19:24] <floDDF7> i
[19:24] <FloodBot1> floDDF7: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:24] <mango1> is there a format option, like on windows?
[19:24] <AsuMagic> mango
[19:24] <AsuMagic> wait
[19:24] <floDDF7> no
[19:24] <rymate1234> mango1: What do you mean?
[19:25] <AsuMagic> Google is your friend : https://www.google.com/search?q=format+from+grub&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:fr:official&client=firefox-a it was so hard?
[19:25] <brontosaurusrex> mango1, installer should give you the option to wipe drives clean
[19:25] <mango1> rymate1234: i'd like a clean installation, i'd figure it'd be faster than fixing all these issues
[19:25] <floDDF7> you have to make : grub-update in recue mode
[19:25] <mango1> brontosaurusrex: like the installation iso?
[19:26] <Physmart> Greetings. How  can I repair my system`s grub? It`s not appearing when I press shift on start.
[19:26] <floDDF7> with grub-recue
[19:26] <floDDF7> avalible in ubuntu
[19:26] <brontosaurusrex> mango1, yes
[19:26] <floDDF7> " rescue-grub"
[19:26] <floDDF7> sorry
[19:26] <AsuMagic> But wait mango1
[19:26] <floDDF7> se'gpa
[19:26] <Physmart> I`m now in the Live CD. I already installed Slackware in dual with Ubuntu, and the grub isn`t appearing.
[19:27] <AsuMagic> Why the heck do you don't format from ubuntu setup? it will be clean. : mango1
[19:27] <AsuMagic> ..
[19:27] <floDDF7> To repaire grub intall grub-recue
[19:27] <AsuMagic> I say right or I fail?
[19:27] <floDDF7> ho mangol t un mongol ?
[19:27] <AsuMagic> flo : French?
[19:27] <mango1> asumagic: i'm not exactly sure how i'd get to that start screen
[19:28] <floDDF7> yes
[19:28] <mango1> AsuMagic: i'm running this on a vm
[19:28] <AsuMagic> mango1 : Insert the iso in your VM
[19:28] <AsuMagic> And boot on ( Try with F keys )
[19:28] <AsuMagic> in virtual bios
[19:29] <floDDF7> Wicth WM ?
[19:29] <AsuMagic> ( Note : To do it from VMWare, restart VM, press escape and select DVD
[19:29] <AsuMagic> Or more simple
[19:30] <floDDF7> tg
[19:30] <AsuMagic> Delete your HDD file, recreate a clean one
[19:30] <gordonjcp> donavan01: my PDP11 is quieter
[19:30] <AsuMagic> floddf7 : If you are insulting in french, there's much people who can ban you.
[19:30] <floDDF7> donovanleshlag
[19:30] <mango1> i was hoping to avoid it since the first install took so long, but i suppose that there's no other way
[19:30] <floDDF7> ok
[19:31] <AsuMagic> mango1 : What VM are you using..?
[19:31] <Physmart> minimec: Hello. Can you support me again?
[19:31] <floDDF7> bonsoir
[19:31] <floDDF7> tg
[19:31] <mango1> AsuMagic: WMware Workstation
[19:31] <mango1> I'll just recreate a new vm I guess
[19:31] <AsuMagic> FloDDF7 : Je comprends parfaitement ce que tu dis et je ne vais pas hésiter à appeller un admin pour te faire fermer ta gueule
[19:31] <AsuMagic> mango1, don't
[19:32] <AsuMagic> insert the ISO in VM and boot on it ( Escape on BIOS ) and select DVD mango1
[19:32] <Physmart> minimec: I have a problem. I installed Slackware in dual with my broked system. Now, the grub menu for choose, doesn`t appear. How can I restore the grub from live cd?
[19:33] <mango1> AsuMagic: i'm sorry but i've already went ahead
[19:33] <AsuMagic> Ok
[19:34] <ajnr> Hi any one can help me out? My ubuntu 12.04 hangs while shut down and it took much time while booting the system? Please help me out folks
[19:34] <TaZeR>  is it normal to be sexually attracted to Ubuntu?
[19:34] <AsuMagic> ajnr : Press escape while booting and say errors happening.
[19:34] <AsuMagic> tazer : Yes, you're a Linuxosexual then
[19:34] <TaZeR> oh good there are more of us then
[19:35] <ajnr> AsuMagic, I dint get you
[19:35] <Seveas> TaZeR: sorry. This may be an ubuntu support channel, but we don't offer support for ubuntu fetishes. #ubuntu-offtopic is ---> that way
[19:35] <TaZeR> can you refer me to a group therapy for my ubuntu fetish?
[19:36] <Seveas> yes, #ubuntu-offtopic, ask for rww
[19:36] <TaZeR> thanks your the best!
[19:37] <bet0x> Hello all
[19:37] <Physmart> I have a problem. I installed Slackware in dual with my broked system. Now, the grub menu for choose, doesn`t appear. How can I restore the grub from live cd?
[19:37] <bet0x> what DB you can recommend me for a table with 90 millon records?
[19:37] <bet0x> "Database engine"
[19:38] <AsuMagic> back sorry for afk
[19:38] <Seveas> !away | AsuMagic
[19:39] <AsuMagic> I can't prevent while AFK
[19:39] <bekks> bet0x: Some RDBMS, like postgres or Oracle RDBMS 11gR2.
[19:40] <Seveas> bet0x: anything but sqlite. I like mysql, so I'd recommend that.
[19:40] <AsuMagic> ajnr : When ubuntu starts to boot, press Escape. You'll see the logs ( normally ). Tell me the errors, if there are
[19:40] <bet0x> mySQL is not so "open" as before, i can't use it nor any Oracle product
[19:40] <Seveas> bekks: I wish I had the money to install oracle on my 1600 mysql servers. WOuldn't do it, but the money would be great :)
[19:40] <bet0x> then is postgreSQL or MariaDB maybe?
[19:40] <bet0x> what about Perconna?
[19:41] <Seveas> bet0x: mysql is still gpl. Development of it may be a bit more behind closed doors now, but the license is the same
[19:41] <Seveas> mariadb and percona are good products too
[19:42] <bet0x> Seveas far as i know Oracle doesn't release tests as before and many more complains wich i readed
[19:42] <Seveas> bet0x: I'm well familiar with all the complaints and while some are based on truth, there's also a lot of FUD around oracle being evil about mysql
[19:42] <AsuMagic> Personnaly i never had problems with MySQL
[19:44] <minimec> Physmart: Hi. In you case today, you can use the graphical tool to recover grub... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:45] <w30> cl
[19:46] <Senjai> how do I use wired internet in Ubuntu CLI?
[19:46] <AsuMagic> CLI? What is it? Never heard that
[19:47] <Senjai> AsuMagic: Command line interface
[19:47] <AsuMagic> oh
[19:47] <Seveas> Senjai: plug it in and set up /etc/network/interfaces
[19:47] <keith_> I installed KDE but decided I didn't like it (using gnome), but the KDE update manager and crash reporter still show up. How can I get rid of them?
[19:47] <Senjai> Seveas: How do you set that up?
[19:48] <Seveas> if you use dhcp, it's already set up.
[19:48] <Senjai> Seveas: But it's not working. It won't fetch anything
[19:48] <Seveas> Senjai: and whatever you told the installer to do should be in there
[19:49] <spacebarbarian> what are the packages i need to set up vnc on 10.04 server edition (most lightweight setup possible as its for a VPS)  ?
[19:49] <Senjai> i didnt tell the installer to do anything.
[19:49] <AsuMagic> Senjai : Seriously, just search on google, just saw result in 30 seconds http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1688039
[19:49] <sharad_>   using ubuntu server. can i use a mail server on my intranet?
[19:49] <Seveas> Senjai: ok. do you have an ip and a default route? Can you ping 8.8.8.8? What are your nameservers set to?
[19:49] <Seveas> sharad_: yes.
[19:49] <AsuMagic> yes sharad
[19:49] <sharad_> Seveas: can you plz elaborate?
[19:50] <AsuMagic> Wait before answer seveas
[19:50] <AsuMagic> sharad. Did you searched on google? :>
[19:50] <annaaaaa> hi, my naked photos;d www.fajnania.rox.pl free and hard
[19:50] <Seveas> sharad_: no, I can't. You didn't say what you actually want to *do* :)
[19:50] <Senjai> AsuMagic: This is a help channel, people can ask questions here. And not everyone has a web browser..
[19:50] <sharad_> AsuMagic: i am actually following ubuntu server guide
[19:51] <AsuMagic> Senjai, personally i think if he has a server, he has a personal computer
[19:51] <AsuMagic> Maybe I'm totally false, maybe yes
[19:51] <Seveas> AsuMagic: what you think is irrelevant :)
[19:51] <Senjai> AsuMagic: I'm just saying, telling people to google it isn't appropriate here.
[19:52] <Seveas> Senjai: well, sometimes it is. Some peopler really don't do any effort themselves...
[19:52] <AsuMagic> Asking if they did is... But well, help him, instead of speaking and answering both x)
[19:52] <YokoBR> hey guys, my internet sucks with wifi, what can it be?
[19:52] <Senjai> Seveas: I understand that. But I mean if I'm dual booting and I'm a new user. I have IRSSI but not a browser. IRSSI is the only way I can get support while logged into linux..
[19:53] <Seveas> Senjai: lynx :)
[19:53] <Seveas> YokoBR: crapp wifi
[19:53] <YokoBR> Seveas, nope, it was working nice with windows.. it happens only with ubuntu.
[19:53] <AsuMagic> If you aren't logged in, how are you on IRC? o_o
[19:53] <YokoBR> btw, finnally found a way to install my legacy gpu driver on newer ubuntu
[19:54] <Seveas> AsuMagic: err, you don't need a gui to be logged in. Hit <ctrl><alt><f1> (<alt><f7> to go back)
[19:54] <sharad_> Seveas, Asumagig, Senjai: pretty fair..:)  i'll join you guys after i hv done my part of hardwork exploring it.
[19:55] <Seveas> speaking of help: Senjai you haven't answered my questions yet.
[19:55] <Seveas> sharad_: attaboy :)
[19:55] <Senjai> Seveas: I'm a proxy at the moment. Trying to help a friend get his distro installed.
[19:55] <Senjai> he keeps getting errno 6 io failed when trying to install ubuntu the normal way via a live usb
[19:56] <Seveas> md5sum of iso checked before putting on usb?
[19:56] <Seveas> tried different usb schtick?
[19:57] <Lehrling> Hello, i`ve installed kernel 3.9.4 on my ubuntu 13.04. I can`t boot anymore. I tried to use boot-repair but it doesnt solved the problem. Now, grub entry disappeared in BIOS. Can someone help me?
[19:57] <AsuMagic> YokoBR you don't need beast internet connection to check this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1926356 right?
[19:59] <AsuMagic> Lehrling , give me your computer model, I'll try to check issues with latest kernels
[19:59] <YokoBR> the problem is that suddenly my connection stops, so i need to reconect to my wifi router
[19:59] <YokoBR> the speed itself it's fine
[19:59] <AsuMagic> So it isn't slow, but it crashes?
[19:59] <Noskcaj> i've just re-installed ubuntu. what do i have to do to get my SSH key back?
[19:59] <TheUsD> what is the terminal command to see all HDD's on the computer, whether they are mounted or not, raid or not
[20:00] <TheUsD> so I can see their drive path
[20:00] <YokoBR> Yep, AsuMagic... I keeps connected, but then suddenly stops loading pages and stuff.. so i need to re-connect
[20:00] <Lehrling> AsuMagic, the problem was I booted the first time with kernel 3.9.4 but it didn`t find any modules. So I run boot-repair from live cd and things got worse.
[20:00] <AsuMagic> YokoBR : Try checking this http://askubuntu.com/questions/181316/using-wifi-with-12-04-causes-network-to-crash
[20:00] <Lehrling> AsuMagic, I didn`t compile any modules
[20:00] <zykotick9> Noskcaj: did you backup your ~/.ssh folder?  if not, you'll probably need to create a new key.
[20:01] <bureau> Seveas: SIOD ERROR: unbound variable : nautilus
[20:01] <Noskcaj> zykotick9, no, so new key time
[20:01] <bureau> closing a file left open: /usr/share/festival/voices/us/nitech_us_bdl_arctic_hts/festvox/nitech_us_bdl_arctic_hts.scm
[20:01] <AsuMagic> Lehrling : That problem sounds more harder than I though, you should ask on forums
[20:01] <TheUsD> nevermind, finally figured it out...
[20:02] <Seveas> bureau: I'm sorry, I have no idea what that means.
[20:02] <Lehrling> AsuMagic, ok... thanks!
[20:02] <AsuMagic> I'm sorry :/
[20:02] <Seveas> Noskcaj: grab it from your backups
[20:02] <Noskcaj> Seveas, what backups?
[20:02] <YokoBR> AsuMagic, thanks, but my wifi driver is Broadcom Corporation BCM4313
[20:02] <Seveas> TheUsD: sudo fdisk -l
[20:03] <Seveas> Noskcaj: the backups you made before reinstalling of course.
[20:03] <Noskcaj> Seveas, those don't exist
[20:03] <Seveas> Noskcaj: then neither does your ssh key
[20:04] <AsuMagic> YokoBR : http://askubuntu.com/questions/104651/how-do-i-get-wireless-working-on-an-asus-notebook-u56e/114585#114585 ?
[20:05] <AsuMagic> Try if those commands fixes the problem
[20:05] <AsuMagic> sudo modprobe -r iwlagn sudo modprobe iwlagn bt_coex_active=0
[20:05] <AsuMagic> sudo modprobe -r iwlagn AND sudo modprobe iwlagn bt_coex_active=0
[20:05] <flo457> Hello what is the french ubuntu canal ?
[20:05] <AsuMagic> Flo457, je sais pas s'il y en a un
[20:05] <Seveas> !fr | flo457
[20:05] <flo457> ok merci
[20:06] <Seveas> AsuMagic: we have channels for almost all languages :)
[20:06] <AsuMagic> Oh x)
[20:06] <bureau> Seveas: thanks, i appreciate your time and effort!
[20:07] <flo457> So, I have a question what is the difference between Debian 7.0 whezee and ubuntu 13.04 ?
[20:07] <AsuMagic> Just intrigued seveas, but what is the utility of floodbots
[20:07] <AsuMagic> Flo457 : Ubuntu est basé sur Debian. La grosse différence c'est l'interface.
[20:08] <flo457> Mai alor pourquoi debian n'est pas compatible avec ubuntu ?
[20:08] <flo457> le gestionnaire de paquet est aussi dpkg nn ?
[20:08] <AsuMagic> En effet..
[20:08] <AsuMagic> Les paquets sont bien en .deb, donc j'ai pas trop compris ta question
[20:08] <BT5> ?
[20:08] <Seveas> flo457: AsuMagic: english only please.
[20:09] <Vai> english please
[20:09] <flo457> En fait pouirquoi je ne pourai pas ajouter des depot ubuntu dans ma debian
[20:09] <LA2> I get only 3 MB/s when I dd if=/dev/zero of=myfile.txt bs=1024k count=1024
[20:09] <Seveas> AsuMagic: the floodbots mute users who flood so the channel doesn't get spammed too much
[20:09] <AsuMagic> ok, but why is there 3?
[20:09] <BT5> bonjour a tous
[20:09] <YokoBR> mine is not supported yet 14e4:4727 	  no (WIP) 	  BCM4313 	  b/g/n 	  LCN (r1) 	  wl/brcm80211
[20:09] <Seveas> AsuMagic: redundancy
[20:09] <Vai> faut parlé l'englais, c'est miuex pour les autres! peut etre yavai des gens qui ont la meme probleme! u got it?
[20:09] <XDS2010> Where is the ubuntu chinese channel ?
[20:09] <Seveas> !cn | XDS2010
[20:10] <Vai> BT5, hello there
[20:10] <keith_> I installed KDE but decided I didn't like it (using gnome), but the KDE update manager and crash reporter still show up. How can I get rid of them?
[20:10] <XDS2010> ty
[20:10] <flo457> Can I add
[20:10] <Seveas> keith_: uninstall the relevant packages.
[20:10] <AsuMagic> flo457, 2s
[20:10] <muculus> http://serverfault.com/questions/512549/log-specific-process-cpu-and-memory-usage-by-name
[20:10] <flo457> ok
[20:11] <Seveas> keith_: no idea what they're called (ask in #ubuntu if noone else answers), but find them in synaptic and remove them
[20:11] <param> unable to install apache2 on my ubuntu .... i deleted manually all files of apache2 , now can't install it
[20:11] <keith_> Seveas: The problem is they show as not installed. sudo apt-get remove update-manager-kde insists that it isn't installed
[20:11] <ripplebit> anyone know how to stop laptop from hibernating when i close the lid?
[20:11] <AsuMagic> flo457 : Ouvre le nouvel onglet ( P.S. to english people, just saying to him 'open new tab to PM )
[20:12] <daftykins> param: do an install --reinstall
[20:12] <Seveas> keith_: sudo dpkg -P update-manager-kde
[20:12] <param> dafty i tried everything
[20:12] <param> still no result
[20:12] <heikoo> When I start Diablo 2 (wine), Kaffeine stops TV playback with a message "Read error from:". Any way to fix this? (12.10)
[20:13] <keith_> Seveas: thanks
[20:13] <AsuMagic> flo457 ?
[20:13] <martinux> Hi. I just suspended my laptop while watching a video on youtube. As usual it freezes when I try to wake it up from suspend, and the sound on the youtube-video starts repeating itself like a broken record. And now I have no sound at all! How can I diagnose this? Thanks
[20:13] <Seveas> AsuMagic: I think he opened the tab and doesn't know how to get back now :-)
[20:14] <Seveas> martinux: flash is annoying like that. reboot :(
[20:14] <AsuMagic> Oh, he finally answers
[20:14] <daftykins> param: did you --reinstall not bring everything back?
[20:14] <Duan-Wuan> Martinux thats good advice
[20:14] <martinux> I allready did a reboot
[20:14] <param> tell me command i will try again
[20:15] <daftykins> param: sudo apt-get install apache2 --reinstall
[20:15] <Duan-Wuan> Martinux what browser are you using? and have you tried another?
[20:15] <param> yeah no results :(
[20:15] <martinux> Duan-Wuan: Firefox, and no. I will try chrome
[20:15] <param> still cant find apache2 when i type whereis apache2
[20:16] <betrayd> param open synaptic and see Details for apache2
[20:16] <daftykins> param: do you actually see it *do* it?
[20:16] <betrayd> it will tell you what installed and where
[20:16] <param> synaptic ?
[20:17] <param> what does that mean
[20:17] <betrayd> yes the GUI for installing stuff
[20:17] <betrayd> it will show you what has been installed and where
[20:18] <Seveas> param: let's first remove it properly: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2 apache2-mpm-worker apache2-utils apache2.2-bin apache2.2-common
[20:19] <Seveas> param: and the do dpkg -l | grep apache and see if there are more apache packages to remove
[20:19] <Seveas> then reinstall them.
[20:19] <param> ok wait
[20:20] <iPenguin> Hi. #
[20:20] <iPenguin> I have been downloading ubuntu and it has been 8 hours and it has not even moved. It has been stuck on 8 hours for 8 hours. Can anyone give me advice whats wrong?
[20:21] <XDS2010> anyone here speak chinese ?
[20:21] <daftykins> iPenguin: how are you downloading it?
[20:21] <XDS2010> or can READ it rather
[20:21] <iPenguin> daftykins: from ubuntu.com
[20:21] <XDS2010> http://imagebin.org/259849
[20:21] <Urmom> Bla
[20:21] <mantas> Hello
[20:21] <daftykins> iPenguin: HTTP? try releases.ubuntu.com and maybe consider a torrent instead of a direct download
[20:21] <Urmom> Ur mom!
[20:21] <vitimiti> hi o/
[20:21] <Urmom> Hahhahhahhahahahahah
[20:22] <mantas> nick Marti
[20:22] <Seveas> Urmom: seriously? That's the best you can do? Pathetic.
[20:22] <Urmom> Jdjfjfjdidjfhfifjfiffjfjfjidjfidhdjdififufuuffuucfuufufufufjfjfjfjcuuffjfjfjfjfjnffjfjjfjjfifififjdjjidfijfjfijft
[20:22] <Marti> What
[20:22] <iPenguin> daftykins: i downloaded it form the offical ubuntus site.
[20:23] <daftykins> iPenguin: you mean - you tried?
[20:23] <Seveas> k1l_: aww, why'd you have to kill the cute amateur troll? :)
[20:23] <daftykins> Seveas: you could always train him/her up in PM?
[20:23] <Seveas> daftykins: or I could stab myself in the ear. Much more useful.
[20:24] <martinux> Duan-Wuan: I just tried with chromium. Still no sound
[20:24] <daftykins> Seveas: i await proof sir
[20:24] <Seveas> daftykins: don't hold thy breath :)
[20:25] <daftykins> iPenguin: pick a link and try one of these instead: http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[20:26] <Marti> I can't believe I've just started using IRC.
[20:26] <martinux> My laptop with 13.04 just froze while listening to a song on youtube, now I have no sound what so ever. How can i diagnose this?
[20:26] <mancubus> hello
[20:27] <A1Recon> OK I installed keb using the command sudo apt-get install keb. Now when i used the terminal to run it, I 've got like this square black screen in the middle of my screen.. Please help! How do I stop k3b right now! Is there something like a "Task Manager" or something?
[20:27] <Seveas> martinux: stupid question but could it be muted. Check with amixer
[20:27] <Marti> Is it possible to upgrade from an old tesing version of 13.04 to the official release? I'm currently using a buggy error and no matter how many times I upgrade I still encounter several bugs
[20:28] <martinux> Seveas: No it's not muted (yes i checked, 2 times)
[20:28] <Seveas> martinux: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:28] <Marti> Already did that
[20:28] <martinux> Seveas: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[20:28] <Marti> And it shows Invalid UTF-8 and this like that
[20:29] <Marti> Instead of the date, for example
[20:29] <A1Recon> OK I installed keb using the command sudo apt-get install keb. Now when i used the terminal to run it, I 've got like this square black screen in the middle of my screen..and the error in terminal is "OK I installed keb using the command sudo apt-get install keb. Now when i used the terminal to run it, I 've got like this square black screen in the middle of my screen.. Please help! How do I stop k3b right now! Is there something like a "Task Manag
[20:29] <A1Recon> ^ that was k3b
[20:29] <Marti> Press Ctrl+c if you still have the terminal open
[20:29] <A1Recon> typo
[20:29] <Marti> That will kill the process
[20:29] <Seveas> martinux: sorry, the apt get was meant for marti
[20:29] <martinux> Seveas: :D
[20:29] <Vai> a friend of mine hes connected from kali lunix its like backtrack but its debian, and he trying to install firefox, but dunno with no results  so
[20:29] <Seveas> Marti: then you're on the released version :)
[20:30] <A1Recon> Marti: I did that.. but the black square patch is still there
[20:30] <Ben64> Vai: not supported here, sorry
[20:30] <Vai> and where?
[20:30] <Ben64> you'd have to check the distro's website
[20:30] <Marti> A1Recon: Why don't you try removing the keb package?
[20:30] <gotwig> hey there
[20:30] <gotwig> there is no right click support for ubuntu 12.04 for multitouch clickpads. Is this going to be fixed in the next LTS update?
[20:30] <A1Recon> Marti: command for that??
[20:31] <Marti> what's the package name?
[20:31] <param> where are ubuntu proxy terminal settings written
[20:31] <TheUsD> is GUI required for samba?
[20:31] <param> in which file
[20:31] <Ben64> Marti: A1Recon: thats pretty extreme to just kill a process
[20:31] <gotwig> param: you typically use variables for that
[20:31] <Ben64> A1Recon: killall -9 k3b
[20:31] <gotwig> param: BASH variables, in the shell
[20:31] <param> bashrc ?
[20:32] <Seveas> param: you could put it in your ~/.bashrc yes
[20:32] <gotwig> param: do you want to setup a proxy?
[20:32] <Seveas> add a line like this: export http_proxy=http://name.of.proxy:3128
[20:32] <linXea> Ben64, why would you add -9 to the 'killall' command ?
[20:32] <gotwig> and https_proxy=blub
[20:32] <param> i set up earlier , now want to remove it
[20:32] <Ben64> linXea: extra killin' power
[20:32] <Seveas> param: oh, in that case: unset http_proxy
[20:32] <Marti> :D
[20:32] <param> i dont remember where i added
[20:32] <gotwig> param: you know yourself how you set it up. we cant help here
[20:33] <A1Recon> Ben64: Thanks!!
[20:33] <TheUsD> Hello, is GUI needed for Samba?
[20:33] <Ben64> nope
[20:33] <TheUsD> thanks
[20:33] <Seveas> param: ~/.bashrc ~/.profile /etc/bash.bashrc /etc/profile /etc/profile.d/* ~/.bash_profile
[20:33] <Seveas> should be somewhere in there :)
[20:34] <betrayd> you left out ~/.kitchen_sink
[20:34] <daftykins> iPenguin: have you sorted your download problem?
[20:34] <param> bash: cd: /home/stack/.bashrc: Not a directory
[20:34] <Seveas> and ~/.toilet_bowl too, because I'm not using kde
[20:34] <Seveas> param: it's a file
[20:34] <Seveas> can't cd into a file :)
[20:34] <LA2> I get only 3 MB/s when I dd if=/dev/zero of=myfile.txt bs=1024k count=1024; and this is on a new computer with new 2TB disk and Ubuntu 13.04
[20:34] <iPenguin> No.
[20:35] <iPenguin> Its my browser.
[20:35] <iPenguin> its rubbish -,-
[20:35] <Seveas> iPenguin: try wget :)
[20:35] <param> ok seveas
[20:35] <param> there are no proxy settings in this file
[20:35] <iPenguin> Seveas: Ok?
[20:36] <linXea> iPenguin, checked hdparm as well ?? # hdparm -v /dev/sdX?
[20:36] <mancubus> hi, short question. why is fern-wifi-cracker not recognizing aircrack-ng on my ubunutu 12.04 dist. (tried everythong from the forums)
[20:36] <linXea> or even better # hdparm -Tt /dev/sdX
[20:36] <iPenguin> is wget from gnu.org?
[20:36] <Ben64> iPenguin: sudo apt-get install wget
[20:36] <Seveas> iPenguin: yes
[20:37] <Seveas> !pm | param
[20:37] <Ben64> mancubus: what are you running? backtrack? ubuntu 12.04 doesn't have aircrack-ng
[20:37] <iPenguin> sudo apt-get ?
[20:37] <param> ok :)
[20:37] <iPenguin> That's too confusing
[20:37] <k1l_> mancubus: aircrack is not supported in here.
[20:37] <param> i cant file proxy settings in bashrc and profile file
[20:37] <Ben64> iPenguin: type that in the console...
[20:37] <Seveas> param: env | grep -i proxy
[20:37] <param> i removed it from etc apt apt.conf file
[20:38] <Seveas> does that list proxy settings?
[20:38] <LA2> hdparm says: /dev/sda: multcount     = 16 (on) IO_support    =  1 (32-bit) readonly      =  0 (off) readahead     = 256 (on) geometry      = 243201/255/63, sectors = 3907029168, start = 0
[20:38] <iPenguin> Are you on about my windows console?
[20:38] <param> UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=libappmenu.so
[20:38] <daftykins> LA2: is general operation slow too?
[20:38] <iPenguin> The once i am changing is the one on my acer laptop which used to have acer's operating system then i switched to xp
[20:38] <Ben64> iPenguin: what are you trying to do?
[20:38] <LA2> the machine works fine, the cpu is great
[20:39] <Seveas> param: that one is irrelevant. Congratulations, you have no proxy settings :)
[20:39] <param> ok when i try to run command sudo apt-get remove apache2.2-common
[20:39] <LA2> but the disk throughput is like 1999
[20:39] <param> it connect to my proxy
[20:39] <iPenguin> Change xp to ubuntu.
[20:39] <param> which i had in my office
[20:39] <Seveas> param: err, *remove* doesn't connect to a proxy...
[20:40] <param> ok
[20:40] <iPenguin> I have left it for ubuntu to download for 8 hours and it has been past 8 hours and has done nothing,
[20:40] <Ben64> iPenguin: then download the iso, write to cd or usb and install
[20:40] <gotwig> where can I get LTS support?
[20:40] <Ben64> gotwig: here
[20:40] <Seveas> gotwig: right here
[20:41] <Seveas> if you're lucky :)
[20:41] <LA2> when I pump 1 gigabyte of /dev/zero to disk, it runs 247 tps (says iostat), which is good, but only 3 MB/s or roughly 10 kbyte per transfer
[20:41] <iPenguin> Sorry, was you saying anything to me then Ben64? I accidently disconnected my self.
[20:41] <Ben64> iPenguin: then download the iso, write to cd or usb and install
[20:41] <param> seveas check out this   http://paste.ubuntu.com/5724152/
[20:41] <goddard> if my motherboard has a RGB connector and one of those white connectors can i use two monitors?
[20:41] <Ben64> iPenguin: you might want to use a download accelerator if you have unreliable internet
[20:42] <Ben64> goddard: white connector = ???
[20:42] <betrayd> goddard no blue ones?
[20:42] <goddard> betrayd: the RGB is the blue one right?
[20:42] <LA2> is there a disk I/O performance channel? There's much noise here.
[20:42] <Seveas> param: is there a proxy in /etc/apt/apt.conf?
[20:42] <goddard> Ben64: i dont know what the white one is called
[20:42] <AsuMagic> goddard, yes
[20:42] <param> i removed the line from here
[20:42] <param> now its empty
[20:43] <Seveas> param: and maybe in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
[20:43] <AsuMagic> but white : R=255, G=255, B=255 ( max )
[20:43] <Ben64> goddard: http://linuxologist.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/video-ports1.png
[20:43] <iPenguin> is the site called speedbit Ben64?
[20:43] <gotwig> Seveas: There is no right click support for multitouch clickpads in Ubuntu 12.04. Is this going to be fixed in the next LTS?
[20:43] <betrayd> goddard the rectangular white one is DVI
[20:43] <goddard> oh ok
[20:43] <Ben64> iPenguin: i don't really know windows software
[20:43] <goddard> Ben64: so i mean a VGA and a DVI port
[20:43] <gotwig> not being able to use the right click is kind of lame.
[20:43] <Ben64> goddard: then probably
[20:44] <goddard> awesome
[20:44] <iPenguin> When you say accerator do you mean accerator plus?
[20:44] <betrayd> goddard: so choose your second one wisely
[20:44] <iPenguin> If not then sorry thats not a exist program according to my search engine.
[20:44] <Ben64> iPenguin: again, i don't really know windows software
[20:44] <goddard> betrayd: what do you mean?
[20:44] <Seveas> gotwig: sorry, I have no idea about that.
[20:45] <Seveas> gotwig: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/Ginn may be of help
[20:45] <Seveas> and googling for ubuntu mulittouch right click turned op some more useful links
[20:45] <param> yes kool seveas , i removed from there :)
[20:46] <param> now next task to install apache2
[20:46] <Seveas> param: you'll want to apt-get remove --purge all_apache_packages_you_installed
[20:47] <Seveas> param: and allin the same command, not one per command
[20:47] <param> oh i did everything separtae
[20:47] <gotwig> Seveas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/1162384
[20:47] <param> ok let me do again
[20:48] <gotwig> Seveas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection#Enabling_right_button_click_for_clickpads_on_Ubuntu_12.04_LTS
[20:48] <param> ok i did seveas
[20:48] <param> now i shall install again ?
[20:48] <Seveas> param: yes indeed
[20:48] <martinux> Hey. I'm on 13.04 and after my laptop crashed while playing a song on youtube, I have no sound. Nothing is muted, I have tried to restard. How can I troubleshoot this?
[20:49] <param> re install or just install ?
[20:49] <gotwig> see, I cant get LTS support here...
[20:49] <gotwig> good night
[20:49] <Seveas> param: just install
[20:50] <Seveas> gotwig: sure you can. But unfortunately nobody had an answer to your question.
[20:50] <param> ok installing
[20:50] <iPenguin> Ben64: I have found the accelerator program now.
[20:51] <Guest8226> hi
[20:51] <param> thanks seveas :D my problem solved
[20:51] <param> thanks alot
[20:51] <betrayd> grab the torrent
[20:52] <wakfu> bonsoir
[20:52] <Seveas> hello Guest8226
[20:52] <Seveas> hello wakfu
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[20:52] <Guest8226> hello
[20:52] <Seveas> MonkeyDust: easy on the triggers, we don't want to scare the french people away too much :)
[20:53] <usr13> martinux: alsamixer  (from terminal)
[20:53] <param> seveas how to start apache serveice
[20:53] <usr13> param: service
[20:54] <param> yes
[20:54] <Seveas> param: sudo start apache2
[20:54] <Seveas> or sudo service apache2 start
[20:54] <Seveas> or sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[20:55] <usr13> param: As Seveas points out, use command "service"  to start a service, (such as apache webserver).  See:  man service
[20:56] <param> yeah its fine now :D
[20:56] <usr13> FYI -----
[20:57] <AsuMagic> Ping timeout: 250 seconds : Only!?
[20:57] <AsuMagic> 2 years sounds better timeout
[20:57] <usr13> AsuMagic: And your question is _________________?
[20:58] <AsuMagic> Yep, _______________________
[20:58] <AsuMagic> well
[20:58] <AsuMagic> gtg, bye
[21:02] <frog__> hi, i need an app, which shows me net statistik (upload/download/current and max)
[21:03] <frog__> and if it shows more stuff would be also nice
[21:04] <frog__> nd i need any nice file manager. i dont really like dolphin
[21:05] <betrayd> goddard:  mind your monitor inputs, pick one VGA and one DVI thats all
[21:05] <GEO48> hi, I have downloaded those files: http://sourceforge.net/projects/biblatex-biber/files/biblatex-biber/1.6/binaries/Linux/ after unpacking executing them does nothing
[21:05] <GEO48> could anybody download them and try to execute the files? I don't know where the problem could be
[21:05] <GEO48> ./biber --help should at least output sth.
[21:06] <GEO48> output of strace biber: http://pastebin.com/X0tC5ABz
[21:06] <betrayd> why we suddenly have stracers here
[21:07] <betrayd> next we'll have gdebuggers
[21:08] <GEO48> could you help me?
[21:08] <Kroach> if I have a cronjob set to run every monday at, say, 0:00 and my PC is off at the time, will it run after I turn it on?
[21:08] <paddy> hello. how can i get "mount -o loop file.iso /mnt/iso" to get to work on Ubuntu 12.04 - it complains about a missing loop
[21:09] <betrayd> GEO48 is it in the repos
[21:09] <Seveas> paddy: please pastebin the full output.
[21:09] <GEO48> it is in the repos ... but the repo version is too old and contains a bug
[21:11] <paddy> what the heck, the reboot seems to fix the problem, its mounted now
[21:12] <betrayd> can't d.load now GEO48 am not in ubuntu
[21:13] <GEO48> betrayd, are you using any linux distro ?
[21:14] <betrayd> yes, what did you to get it
[21:14] <GEO48> it is no deb file ... just one executable
[21:14] <GEO48> so you should be just fine using any linux distro
[21:15] <GEO48> ./biber --help does not output anything for me
[21:15] <betrayd> because you're not in the directory
[21:15] <GEO48> no
[21:15] <betrayd> that is why
[21:15] <GEO48> i am in the directory
[21:15] <betrayd> you need to go where biber is
[21:15] <GEO48> yeah i did
[21:15] <GEO48> and it does not work
[21:16] <betrayd> run pwd
[21:16] <GEO48> with what reason?
[21:16] <GEO48> i am in my download directory ...
[21:17] <GEO48> and there it the executable called biber
[21:17] <betrayd> use a terminal this time
[21:17] <Beltechs_> hi how do I get me mailbox back? I deleted var/spool/mail/ roo
[21:17] <GEO48> i do
[21:17] <betrayd> do pwd
[21:17] <bekks> Beltechs_: From your backup.
[21:17] <GEO48> btw. running it in any other directory would give an error:bash: ./biber: No such file or directory
[21:17] <betrayd> it will inform us where you are.
[21:18] <GEO48> output of pwd: /home/user/Downloads
[21:18] <Beltechs_> no back up means new install?
[21:18] <bekks> Beltechs_: No backup means: no chance to get your data back. Of course you can recreate that directory, but it will be empty.
[21:18] <Beltechs_> i recreated the file but mail is not populating to it
[21:19] <GEO48> betrayd, output of ls -l: http://pastebin.com/T7PngY8Q
[21:19] <Seveas> Beltechs_: probably wrong permissions
[21:19] <bekks> Beltechs_: Its not a file, its a directory.
[21:19] <betrayd> we neef to go inside Downloads, to where biber is
[21:19] <betrayd> need*
[21:19] <GEO48> yeah we are
[21:19] <Beltechs_> why cant I cd to it but I can nano it
[21:19] <Beltechs_> ?
[21:19] <Seveas> Beltechs_: dennis@lightning:~$ ls -lad /var/mail/
[21:19] <Seveas> drwxrwsr-x 2 root mail 4096 okt 29  2008 /var/mail/
[21:20] <bekks> Beltechs_: Because you have to mkdir it, instead nano it.
[21:20] <GEO48> betrayd, look ... i am no beginner ... i know how to open a terminal and switch to a directory etc...
[21:20] <Beltechs_> ok let me try
[21:20] <betrayd> yet you dont know about targz
[21:20] <GEO48> i do
[21:20] <GEO48> i unpacked the file
[21:20] <betrayd> ok good
[21:20] <betrayd> where is it now
[21:21] <GEO48> in the same directory, as i unpacked it in the same directory, lol
[21:22] <betrayd> you know tab-completion
[21:23] <GEO48> yeah
[21:23] <GEO48> look, i am not stupid ...
[21:23] <GEO48> the thing is: it does not work
[21:23] <betrayd> good, type ./bi<tab>
[21:23] <Beltechs_> seveas drwxrwsrwt 2 root mail 4096 2013-05-30 17:42 /var/mail/
[21:23] <GEO48> yeah and it gets completed
[21:23] <betrayd> excellent
[21:23] <GEO48> see
[21:23] <Beltechs_> im not sure how to read that output
[21:23] <betrayd> now we want to see why, are you still in terminal
[21:24] <Seveas> Beltechs_: that output is fine.
[21:24] <GEO48> yeah
[21:24] <betrayd> pwd and bi tab complete?
[21:24] <betrayd> i mean ./bi
[21:24] <GEO48> what?
[21:24] <betrayd> and tab complete
[21:25] <GEO48> bi and tab complete shows many option ...
[21:25] <GEO48> look... do you want to help me now or not?
[21:25] <betrayd> this is it.
[21:25] <GEO48> okay
[21:26] <betrayd> you want to troubleshoot
[21:26] <betrayd> thats exactl what we're doing
[21:26] <GEO48> you would not have been any help anyway
[21:26] <Seveas> betrayd: i'd say you're shooting in the dark...
[21:26] <Beltechs_> var/mail/ has what appear to be 3 files root, user, and www-data but root is empty...
[21:26] <Seveas> betrayd: his strace output already showed that the command is found and is doing *some*thing
[21:27] <betrayd> good...
[21:27] <betrayd> but not the one he
[21:27] <betrayd> s expecting?
[21:27] <Seveas> so I don't know what you're doing, but it's not helping
[21:27] <GEO48> it is not about the output of strace
[21:27] <almass> hello
[21:27] <noob7> don't forget http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODQ4WiDsEBQ
[21:27] <GEO48> it is the fact that the program is not working
[21:27] <almass> help plesae
[21:27] <betrayd> am not expecting ubuntuers to provide strace at the slightest problem, my bad
[21:28] <Beltechs_> where else would/can I see mail for the cron job?
[21:28] <GEO48> ./biber --help should output sth, but it does not
[21:28] <Seveas> !help | almass
[21:28] <GEO48> biber is a compiler ... but it does not do anything
[21:29] <almass> i installed xmbc in kubuntu 13.04 ,,then restarted my pc,,now get xmbc by default,,no kde,,,ho to get kde back
[21:30] <GEO48> betrayd, yeah probably because you consider other people as stupid
[21:30] <betrayd> in this place, you're the exception
[21:30] <GEO48> betrayd, you would have helped me more by not saying anything at all
[21:30] <betrayd> but if you wich to take offence feel free
[21:30] <betrayd> we're almost there
[21:31] <k1l_> betrayd: its enough now
[21:31] <Tylerjd|Away> almass: You'll need to go into the XBMC options, and tell it when you hit the shutdown button on screen, to logout instead
[21:31] <tozen> almass: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports (это чтоб не ставить старую версию, а сразу 4.10.2)
[21:31] <tozen> sudo apt-get update
[21:31] <Tylerjd|Away> almass: then, once you are logged out, you can change your session back to KDE
[21:31] <Senjai> n
[21:31] <th0r> GEO48: sometimes ?  or -? Will work where --help doesn't
[21:32] <tozen> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-restricted-extras kde-l10n-en
[21:32] <GEO48> th0r, no i know biber and help shoud work ...
[21:32] <Tylerjd|Away> tozen: I don't think KDE is gone on his desktop, only that XBMC became the default session
[21:32] <GEO48> th0r, anyway it should always output sth. as it is a compiler ... if it is called with no option it normally complaines there is no input file etc.
[21:33] <GEO48> th0r, no i know biber and help shoud work
[21:33] <GEO48> th0r, anyway it should always output sth. as it is a compiler ... if it is called with no option it normally complaines there is no input file etc.
[21:33] <Seveas> GEO48: can you repeat the download url?
[21:33] <tozen> Tylerjd|Away: why? i was out of theme
[21:33] <almass> tylerjd|awaytheir is no such option,,,
[21:34] <Tylerjd> almass: lemme have a look at my XBMC install, one sec
[21:34] <almass> ok
[21:34] <GEO48> Seveas, http://sourceforge.net/projects/biblatex-biber/files/biblatex-biber/1.6/binaries/Linux/
[21:35] <Tylerjd> almass: go to Settings>System>Power Saving>Shutdown Function. Change from shutdown to logout
[21:35] <Fuzzles> if i install amd driver fom site when i update kernal will it crash?
[21:36] <chaudhary> Why are my softwares not exactly up to date, e.g Qt version in my 12.04LTS is 4.8.1, even though 4.8.2 is available
[21:36] <Seveas> GEO48: that one seems to work though it took a looooooooooong time the first time to give any output. Is it hanging or do you get your shell prompt back?
[21:36] <Seveas> !pm | GEO48
[21:37]  * chaudhary tried google for ubuntu package latest version and found out nothing useful
[21:37] <GEO48> i get my shellprompt back
[21:37] <almass> tylerjd: i can't access system settings,,,it just only xmbc runni,,like an operating system
[21:37] <Seveas> !info biber
[21:38] <GEO48> yeah i know about the repository version, but  the repo version contains a bug
[21:38] <Tylerjd> almass: I understand. This is in the XBMC settings. I dunno what theme you are running on XBMC, but it will either say settings or System in the home menu
[21:38] <GEO48> so i want to use the updated version
[21:38] <k1l_> chaudhary: there is a freeze before the release. so the most software updates come with the next releaase
[21:38] <Seveas> GEO48: yeah, I was just wondering if there was a newer one in raring
[21:38] <GEO48> no there is not
[21:39] <Seveas> GEO48: I'm guessing you're missing some perl libraries. Did you install the repo version at some point or not on this machine?
[21:39] <almass> tylerjd :default theme
[21:39] <GEO48> i have never installed the repo version on that setup
[21:39] <almass> is there way to switch to kde in logon screen
[21:39] <chaudhary> k1l_: Do I need to change upgrade to 13.04, (I don't want to They are not LTS, and I hate upgrading my system, too much mess)
[21:40] <Seveas> GEO48: execve("/tmp/par-75736572/cache-371b0cf3aa3eec4dfb0c82647515336d327c4e62/biber", ["biber"], [/* 73 vars */]) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[21:40] <GEO48> but i have another setup where the repo version is installed and working ... but the downloaded binary is not
[21:40] <Fuzzles> will the amd driver from there site crash if my kernal gets updated?
[21:40] <Seveas> is your /tmp on a filesystem mounted noexec?
[21:40] <GEO48> yeah
[21:40] <Seveas> that's it.
[21:40] <GEO48> wait i will try it to figure it out
[21:40] <Seveas> biber is packed with par, which extracts to /tmp before executing
[21:40] <k1l_> chaudhary: that is the question you need to answer for yourself. do you need the newer software version? keep in mind that the latest version is not always the best and most stable one
[21:41] <Tylerjd> almass: I believe that theme is called confluence. Here, look here to see if you can find this menu http://imgur.com/ep7TtNj
[21:41] <Seveas> try mount -o remount,exec /tmp
[21:41] <chaudhary> k1l_: that means if I don't upgrade, I will not get latest versions?
[21:41] <almass> tylerjd :yes
[21:41] <almass> this is
[21:41] <GEO48> Seveas, it is working!
[21:42] <k1l_> chaudhary: LTS is made for stable purposes. not for latest versions
[21:42] <Tylerjd> almass: Then go into there, go down to system, power saving
[21:42] <Seveas> betrayd: this is how you debug. Actually looking at output and at what things are doing :P
[21:42] <Seveas> GEO48: great :)
[21:42] <GEO48> thank you very very much sir!
[21:42] <Seveas> you're welcome
[21:42] <betrayd> but what about users,
[21:42] <betrayd> no but good anyway
[21:42] <Tylerjd> almass: shutdown function, then change it to logout
[21:42] <betrayd> i prefer the 'teach a man how to fish'
[21:42] <chaudhary> k1l_: but I can manually install latest versions right? by using make command
[21:43] <martinux> Hi! I installed 13.04 today. Coming from linux mint, I noticed some errors during boot time and as google is of no particular help I was wondering if anyone could please take a look at them and tell me if they're serious and what they're all about. Thanks a lot!https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5691812
[21:43] <Tylerjd> almass: Once you are done there, go back to to main menu, and click the power button on screen. It should bring you out to the login screen. Then change the session from XBMC to KDE
[21:43] <reddeath68> I have a nvidia geforce 9400gt videa card and I am looking for the best driver to use with it hopefully something that supports webGL
[21:43] <Seveas> betrayd: well, in your case we'd all die of starvation then :-)
[21:43] <absoloot1y> got issues here
[21:43] <k1l_> chaudhary: you could install what you want :). but i would suggest to search for a PPA
[21:44] <almass> tylerjd :their are only ,,suspend,,hibernate,,shutdown option only
[21:44] <chaudhary> k1l_: okay great, thanks for your help
[21:44] <betrayd> wtih smart fish around =)
[21:44] <BlueProtoman> I have a problem.  I just reinstalled Ubuntu 13.04, and now I can't use Wi-fi.  I have to use ethernet, which isn't always an option.  Any tips?
[21:44] <Seveas> martinux: if your system works as it should, then these are ok :)
[21:45] <Seveas> !wifi | BlueProtoman have you looked here
[21:45] <Tylerjd> almass: Hmm... I dunno what to tell you then. Maybe try googling it or someone else may know. That isn't how it is on mine. I'm sorry to leave you in the middle of this mess, but I have a dinner date i need to catch. I will be back on in a few hours though
[21:45] <yax51> hello
[21:45] <BlueProtoman> Seveas: No, I have not.  I'll look now, thanks!
[21:45] <reddeath68> I have a nvidia geforce 9400gt videa card and I am looking for the best driver to use with it hopefully something that supports webGL
[21:45] <yax51> I am trying to exit "x" server to install nvidia drivers
[21:46] <Seveas> BlueProtoman: good luck and if you have more specific questions, come back any time
[21:46] <yax51> but I don' even know what that is
[21:46] <BlueProtoman> Seveas: I have another issue too, but I want to fix my Wi-fi first.
[21:46] <yax51> can someone walk me hough this
[21:46] <almass> tylerjd :thankyou.,.,buddy
[21:47] <martinux> Seveas: Thank you for your response. However my system does have two errors - 1. Laptop crashes after waking up from suspend. 2. Laptop freezes at purple OR black screen when I logout from my session. If any one of you could help with these issues I'm gratefull as I've struggled with them all day
[21:47] <Guest22888> yo
[21:47] <Seveas> yax51: the X server is the graphical display. To exit it, log out, hit <ctrl><alt><f1>, log in in the terminal and type sudo /etc/init.d/ligtdm stop -- to go back: sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm start and then hit alt+F7
[21:48] <Seveas> martinux: which video card?
[21:49] <reddeath68> I have a nvidia geforce 9400gt videa card and I am looking for the best driver to use with it hopefully something that supports webGL
[21:50] <Seveas> !nvidia | reddeath68
[21:50] <yax51> what was that command again?
[21:51] <martinux> Seveas: Integrated Intel HD Graphics (lenovo g580)
[21:51] <Seveas> yax51: the X server is the graphical display. To exit it, log out, hit <ctrl><alt><f1>, log in in the terminal and type sudo /etc/init.d/ligtdm stop -- to go back: sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm start and then hit alt+F7
[21:51] <yax51> thanks!
[21:52] <yax51> hmmmm says command not found :/
[21:53] <Seveas> then you're not running ubuntu :)
[21:53] <BlueProtoman> Hmm, I can't install the wi-fi drivers because Jockey isn't working for some reason.  Now what?
[21:53] <brainwash> yax51: typo in ligtdm, should be lightdm
[21:54] <Seveas> brainwash: oh duh
[21:54] <yax51> same thing
[21:54] <yax51> sudo: /etc/init.d/lightdm: command not found
[21:54] <brainwash> yax51: sudo service lightdm stop? sudo stop lightdm? try them
[21:55] <Seveas> yax51: are you running kubuntu perhaps? Or vanilla ubuntu?
[21:55] <yax51> sudo: /etc/init.d/lightdm: command not found
[21:55] <yax51> 13.04 with gnome
[21:55] <Seveas> ah
[21:55] <brainwash> :)
[21:55] <Seveas> in that case it's gdm, not lightdm
[21:56] <BlueProtoman> Seveas, what do I do if Jockey doesn't work?  That means I can't install the Wi-fi drivers?
[21:56] <brainwash> people should mention such details earlier
[21:56] <martinux> Seveas: do you have any idea what the problem might be?
[21:57] <Rarrikins> yax51: sudo service lightdm stop
[21:57] <Seveas> BlueProtoman: how does jockey fail?
[21:58] <Seveas> martinux: not really. Wasn't that the chipset where intel wouldn't deliver linux drivers at all?
[21:58] <BlueProtoman> Seveas: Wait, never mind, now it's decided to work for some reason.
[21:58] <yax51> ok that was wierd
[21:59] <yax51> so I tried sudo gdm stop and it kicked me to the boot screen
[21:59] <Seveas> BlueProtoman: hah :)
[21:59] <martinux> Seveas: Pretty sure they delivered drivers for it
[22:00] <martinux> Seveas: I'll keep looking
[22:00] <BlueProtoman> Seveas: However, it's not showing any Wi-fi drivers, just graphics drivers.
[22:02] <YokoBR> hi guys, i have a hp g42 laptop wich is meant to allow 8gb of memory (ram), but what happens if i buy 2 8gb memory?
[22:02] <yax51> hmmm very interesting
[22:02] <thecodeischaos> yoko it will explode
[22:03] <YokoBR> thecodeischaos. i don't think that it can happen.
[22:03] <greygan> YokoBR: It most likely will not see either stick, unless there is a bios update that fixed it.
[22:03] <YokoBR> greygan, thanks :D
[22:04] <greygan> YokoBR: There are often BIOS updaets that will allow for larger RAM but HP is not usually on top of it. Try searching for a flash for it and read the revision notes.
[22:05] <BlueProtoman> Seveas: Never mind.  It won't install the graphics drivers.  So, any tips on the wi-fi situation?
[22:05] <YokoBR> mine is F.29
[22:05] <YokoBR> blueprotoman, which gpu do you have?
[22:07] <yax51> hmm yeah it keeps kicking me
[22:08] <sharad_> how does xubuntu-deskyop (or any gui package ) work on ubuntu server?
[22:08] <sharad_> *desktop
[22:08] <BlueProtoman> YokoBR: nVidia GeForce 520M and a Intel HD 5000.  But this was working just yesterday, on the same operating system, on the same computer!  I just reinstalled Ubuntu 13.04, and now I'm having these problems.
[22:11] <greygan> YokoBR: which version of the g42 do you have? g42-???
[22:14] <tortik> Any analogs turbo c++ on ubuntu?
[22:15] <daftykins> sharad_: you install it, then change your session type at login
[22:17] <sharad_> daftykins: you mean to say that i'll be logged into shell first then may chose gui afterwards?
[22:18] <daftykins> sharad_: no, your login manager starts, so you select a session then enter user+pass
[22:19] <sharad_> daftykins: okay.. thanks buddy..:)
[22:30] <Grinda85> hi
[22:38] <snooplion> wuts gud niggas
[22:38] <snooplion> i needz some hlp
[22:38] <utfans05> !ask | snooplion
[22:38] <snooplion> i need some sock5 proixes for ubuntu
[22:39] <snooplion> freenode keeps banning me and i need some more ips
[22:39] <snooplion> just pm a list
[22:39] <th0r> Jeeesh
[22:40] <snooplion> any1?
[22:40] <snooplion> and don't tell me to goole dat shit
[22:40] <daftykins> don't swear in here
[22:40] <daftykins> keep it all family friendly \o/
[22:40] <snooplion> and don't tell me to goole dat *poo*
[22:41] <daftykins> snooplion: i can't for the life of me think why you get banned from freenode
[22:41] <daftykins> :P
[22:41] <jrib> snooplion: this channel is for ubuntu support, not for finding proxies
[22:41] <snooplion> where find GOOD proxies
[22:41] <snooplion> daftykins: idk
[22:41] <snooplion> they haters
[22:42] <jrib> snooplion: stop asking about proxies in this channel
[22:42] <snooplion> jrib or else?
[22:42] <snooplion> i dont want to have to slap someone
[22:42] <jrib> snooplion: there's no need for an "or else"; just stick to ubuntu support please
[22:44] <hydro-prince> Hello!
[22:44] <utfans05> snooplion: try this http://tinyurl.com/kmxtdnl
[22:45] <jrib> utfans05: please don't participate
[22:45] <snooplion> jrib please stfu
[22:45] <snooplion> Thanks
[22:45] <utfans05> jrib: its a let me google that for you link to sock5 proxies... i was being sarcastic
[22:46] <IdleOne> !lmgtfy
[22:46] <nottoday> not today bitch.
[22:46] <nottoday> fuck off
[22:46] <jrib> utfans05: i understand but attention is what trolls want; just ignore them
[22:46] <nottoday> jrib fuk u
[22:46] <utfans05> jrib: yeah i understand that, thats why i sent him to that page. i wont do it anymore :D
[22:47] <jrib> thanks utfans05
[22:52] <ArchNoob> anyone who knows about GPG + thundermail / enigmail ?
[22:52] <ArchNoob> I'm getting the following: http://pastebin.com/MicVpUDH
[22:56] <godhatesfags> hi
[22:56] <godhatesfags> i need proxie list
[22:57]  * Aww blinks
[22:57] <godhatesfags> AWW MY NIGGA
[22:57] <godhatesfags> FUCK YOU
[22:57] <FloodBot1> godhatesfags: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:57] <godhatesfags> FloodBot1: fuck u
[23:00] <gtbump> hi
[23:01] <BlueProtoman> This day just keeps getting better.  Now I can't boot up Ubuntu at all!  When I log in, the screen just stays black, except for the cursor, and the mouse doesn't work.  Any tips?
[23:02] <BlueProtoman> (13.04)
[23:02] <boosali> ati?
[23:03] <BlueProtoman> boosali: No nVidia GeForce 520M and Intel HD 5000 via Optimus.  And it worked yesterday!  All I did was reinstall Ubuntu 13.04.
[23:04] <boosali> try installing Videocard drivers...
[23:04] <BlueProtoman> boosali: How, if I can't even log in?
[23:05] <TaRaNTiNo> blue try to increase the light
[23:05] <TaRaNTiNo> f2 or f3
[23:05] <boosali> cntrl+alt+ {f2 or f3}
[23:05] <boosali> it should put u in console
[23:05] <BlueProtoman> It's not the brightness.  I see the cursor fine.
[23:05] <boosali> TaRaNTiNo: lol...
[23:06] <TaRaNTiNo> i had something like before
[23:06] <BlueProtoman> So what should I do?  I need this laptop!
[23:08] <BlueProtoman> I need to fix my wi-fi drivers and my graphics drivers, which worked fine until I reinstalled Ubuntu 13.04!
[23:08] <th0r> BlueProtoman: I don't know ati, but nomodeset has helped people with similar symptoms.
[23:08] <TaRaNTiNo> you cant log in to console ?
[23:08] <th0r> !nomodeset
[23:09] <BlueProtoman> TaRaNTiNo, how can I?
[23:09] <TaRaNTiNo> ctrl + f1
[23:10] <Dr_willis_> alt-ctrl-f1 from X,  F1through f6 goes to differnt consoles
[23:11] <BlueProtoman> Ok, so I'm in.  Now what?
[23:11] <Dr_willis_> f7 is normally the X display. (alt-ctrl-f7)  if all ready on the console, i think you just need the ctrl, or alt+ the f key. not all 3.
[23:11] <almass> i installed xmbc in kubuntu 13.04 ,,then restarted my pc,,now get xmbc by default,,no kde,,,how to get kde back
[23:11] <boosali> hay guys, i am having trouble upgrading my distro... i am running ubuntu 12.04, and i am trying to upgrade to 12.10 and the to 13.04...
[23:11] <BlueProtoman> Via terminal, not X.
[23:11] <Dr_willis_> almass,  you have your system set to auto login?
[23:11] <boosali> i am trying the "do-realis- upgrde -d" thingi and its output is:
[23:12] <sharad_> can anybody recommend some cpu and os benchmarking tools?
[23:13] <boosali> http://pastebin.com/w0Mh6xtk
[23:14] <TaRaNTiNo> blue i think your best help will be a cd install
[23:14] <TaRaNTiNo> because you cant get connected (wifi drivers)
[23:15] <boosali> sorry, this:
[23:15] <BlueProtoman> TaRaNTiNo, I already tried a USB install, that's what got me into this trouble in the first place.  And I do have ethernet.
[23:15] <boosali> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5724473/
[23:15] <TaRaNTiNo> and the best to stay with is 12.04 , i got in problems me too with every other version
[23:16] <Dr_willis_> I dont really have any issues with 13.04 here.. but its odd if his 13.04 worked befor but not now.
[23:16] <BlueProtoman> TaRaNTiNo, I don't think we're on the same page.  I upgraded months ago.  It was working until earlier todaynwhen I reinstalled.
[23:17] <Dr_willis_> it could be there were some real recent updates that had a regression/caused the issue.
[23:17] <TaRaNTiNo> burn 13.04 in a cd, backup your home files, and make a clean install from cd not usb
[23:18] <BlueProtoman> No.  I'm not reinstalling again.  I'm fixing this son of a bitch.
[23:18] <TaRaNTiNo> haha
[23:18] <boosali> haha good spirit
[23:18] <Dr_willis_> cd or usb shouldent matter. if the iso file was correct./
[23:19] <BlueProtoman> It was the official ISO, so yes.
[23:19] <boosali> guys, can any1 try and help my with  distro upgrade? i am having trouble...
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> but did you verify the ISO was correct via md5sum?
[23:19] <boosali> it doesnt work :(
[23:19] <BlueProtoman> Yes.
[23:19] <TaRaNTiNo> blue maybe this command should help will install-reinstall missing things sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop   helped me a lot in the past
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> i missed what the actual issue was. ;)  switched pcs so i dont have a channel history.
[23:19] <NikTh> Hey,
[23:20] <TaRaNTiNo> you can get connected through ethernet ?
[23:20] <NikTh> Is there a channel for Ubuntu Unity Next  ? I'm trying to build this in 13.04.. but.. hit the wall.
[23:20] <BlueProtoman> Yes.  And I have that packagebalready.
[23:20] <reddeath68> !nvidia
[23:20] <ripplebit> people is terminal faster than gui?
[23:21] <daftykins> ripplebit: both have their uses
[23:21] <reddeath68> !nvidia
[23:21] <BlueProtoman> So now what do I do?
[23:21] <TaRaNTiNo> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:22] <BlueProtoman> Tarantino, I did, and it didn't help.
[23:22] <ripplebit> how can i become more proficient using terminal? it seems like its usefulness is quite limited, although that's because i dont understand it
[23:22] <MonkeyDust> !cli
[23:23] <boosali> i am trying "do-realse-upgrade -d" and i get this msg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5724473/ why?? (searched everywhere... does any1 have any idea?)
[23:23] <MonkeyDust> ripplebit  it's faster than gui, because the gui does not need to be launched
[23:23] <BlueProtoman> TaRaNTiNo?
[23:23] <MonkeyDust> ripplebit  and usually, cli provides more options than a gui
[23:24] <Gibu> can someone confirm that we can do a conversion from Ubuntu 12.04 to mint 13 without dataloss with the steps mentioned in http://jeffshaffner.wordpress.com/2012/09/27/how-to-convert-ubuntu-12-04-to-linux-mint-13/
[23:24] <ripplebit> ok, thanks all
[23:24] <daftykins> Gibu: backup, then who cares?
[23:25] <bastones> Hi. I have a Dell Optiplex 755 desktop with an integrated Intel 82Q35 graphics running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. The UI seems slow in general and application windows sometimes regularly freeze. Is there anything I can do to try and make the UI run faster? I'm not sure what I can do because it's much slower than Windows which I had previously installed.
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> Gibu,  that would definatly NOT be recommended
[23:25] <jrib> Gibu: have backups; ask linux mint what will happen not ubuntu ;)
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> upgradeing from one ubuntu (or non ubuntu supported  disrto) to the other.. can definatly fail badly
[23:25] <TaRaNTiNo> blue what the was the output of the command i gave you ?
[23:25] <Gibu> okay, thanks all
[23:26] <BlueProtoman> TaRaNTiNo, how can I pastebin it without X?
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> command | pastebinit
[23:26] <BroUnicorn> Hey guys, I need some ubuntu server help
[23:26] <TaRaNTiNo> well are you sure the laptop is connected ?
[23:26] <daftykins> BroUnicorn: ask away
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> ripplebit,   it all depends on the tasks  you are doing.. terminal can be much much faster in many ways.
[23:27] <daftykins> Dr_Willis: i sense we're doing someones homework ;)
[23:27] <BlueProtoman> Dr_Willis, paste.ubuntu.com/5724505
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> daftykins,   3+4=8
[23:27] <systemd0wn> Question, If I unexpectedly disconnect from a SSH server my client window just hangs. CTRL+C doesn't work, and SSH never tells me it's been disconnected.
[23:27] <daftykins> Dr_Willis: sounds legit
[23:28] <daftykins> systemd0wn: there's no question in that sentence
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> ssh + screen and tmux = handy combo ;P
[23:28] <systemd0wn> daftykins, lol. I noticed after the fact and was hoping no one would notice.
[23:28] <daftykins> :D
[23:28] <systemd0wn> Dr_Willis, Oh I use screen for sure.
[23:28] <daftykins> you'd have never gotten a reply :<
[23:29] <systemd0wn> Question, Why does my ssh client hang instead of disconnecting gracefully?
[23:29] <BroUnicorn> I just installed Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS. I had it automatically install openSSH. How do I connect to the server from another computer just across my local network?
[23:29] <daftykins> BroUnicorn: are you typing out an essay of a question?
[23:29] <daftykins> ah there it is
[23:29] <systemd0wn> haha
[23:29] <BroUnicorn> daftykins: (;
[23:29] <daftykins> BroUnicorn: is the other PC windows?
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> BroUnicorn,  ssh user@servername
[23:29] <BroUnicorn> No
[23:29] <BroUnicorn> OSX
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> ssh basics here...
[23:29] <BroUnicorn> Sorry, never set up my own server >.<
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> or find a fancy ssh client for the os in question.
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> !ssh
[23:29] <daftykins> BroUnicorn: open a terminal from utilities, under applications and type "ssh user@IP"
[23:30] <BroUnicorn> Where can I find the IP?
[23:30] <daftykins> "it's homepage" is incorrect :(
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> ifconfig  shows the ip of your system
[23:30] <daftykins> BroUnicorn: "ifconfig -a" on the server
[23:30] <boosali> i am trying "do-realse-upgrade -d" and i get this msg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5724473/ anybody can help?
[23:30] <BroUnicorn> and I tried @servername and got "Could not resolve hostname Kronos: node name nor servname provided, or not known"
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> if the network is set right you Might be able to use the hosts pcs hostname
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> so you use the ip#
[23:31] <systemd0wn> Any ideas on my client hanging? I've used SSH for a long time and haven't ever seen this.
[23:31] <daftykins> BroUnicorn: also if your IP addresses ever change on your LAN, based on what router type you have, SSH'ing is gonna be a pain. statically addressing a server on a network is the best way
[23:31] <BroUnicorn> connect to host 127.0.0.1 port 22:Connection refused
[23:32] <NikTh> boosali:  Are you trying to upgrade to the devel release ? (saucy)
[23:32] <daftykins> systemd0wn: are you connecting over the internet or locally LAN based
[23:32] <daftykins> BroUnicorn: not that address, the other one! typically 192.168.x.x
[23:32] <systemd0wn> daftykins, local
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> my router can assign ip# based on mac. so i dont even have to setup a static ip. ;) it does it automatically
[23:32] <boosali> NikTh: well, i am trying to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10...
[23:32] <BroUnicorn> daftykins: Oh okay. What do eth0 and lo stand for?
[23:32] <daftykins> BroUnicorn: loopback and ethernet 0
[23:32] <boosali> NikTh: i get the same result without the -d option
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> networking 101 -- the ip    127.0.0.1 is your localhost.. that IS always pointing to the machine you are on. ;)
[23:32] <systemd0wn> BroUnicorn, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLqqdQZHzsU
[23:32] <boosali> NikTh: and I set my Promt=normal
[23:32] <BroUnicorn> What is ethernet 0?
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> lo = localhost.
[23:33] <daftykins> there's no place like ::1
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> eth0 == one of your network cards
[23:33] <daftykins> lol no it's loopback :(
[23:33] <NikTh> boosali:  The command you gave is not right.  It will try to upgrade to the devel release (-d) .
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> well it loops back to 127.0.0.1
[23:33] <BroUnicorn> I got connection refused for the other ip as well..
[23:34] <boosali> NikTh: I also tried without -d... same result
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> double check the ip#.. and on the server.. see if you can ssh from it,. to itself.
[23:34] <NikTh> boosali:  check this  http://askubuntu.com/questions/203301/how-to-safely-upgrade-from-an-older-ubuntu-version-to-a-newer
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> ssh user@127.0.0.1 on the server.. should connect to itself
[23:34] <BroUnicorn> am I supposed to use the eth0 ip?
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> try 127.0.0.1 then try its ip#
[23:34] <daftykins> yes
[23:35] <daftykins> BroUnicorn: "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" to confirm
[23:35] <BlueProtoman> Hello?  Graphics and wi-fi driver problems?  I don't know what the hell I'm doing!
[23:35] <daftykins> (on the server you're trying to connect *to*)
[23:35] <rantic> Hi everyone, I installed Ubuntu Minimal and I've been learning a ton .. however I have an NTFS formatted hard drive that appears in my file manager .. but I'm told I don't have access to mount it. However if I run a file manager with sudo ... I can't see the drive listed.
[23:35] <rantic> Do I need to be added to a group or something?
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> rantic, or mount it manually with the proper ntfs-3g command
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> and options
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> running file manager as root is a bad habbit also. ;)  and running nautilus with 'sudo' not 'gksudo' is a very bad habbit.
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[23:36] <rantic> !fuse
[23:37] <boosali> NikTh: output of "-c": http://paste.ubuntu.com/5724522/
[23:37] <rantic> I'm using thunar as a file manager and have indeed been using gksudo ... also I've added my regular user account to the fuse group
[23:37] <sssstavr> hey guys..can i install macOS without VT?
[23:37] <rantic> Aside from mounting it manually ... what would normally be done?
[23:38] <daftykins> sssstavr: on what, a windows PC? slightly outside of the scope of an ubuntu channel surprisingly enough
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> the ntfs-config tool can double check the settings and should allow users to mount the ntfs stuff.
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> if its an internal hard drive. you may as well set it to mount at boot time. not on 'first access'
[23:39] <BroUnicorn> daftykins: Okay it's installing stuff
[23:39] <rantic> Dr_Willis: Yeah it is an internal drive
[23:39] <sssstavr> windows pc?
[23:39] <NikTh> boosali:  cat /etc/update-manager/meta-release
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> id make a fstab entry for it. and be done with it. ;)
[23:39] <daftykins> BroUnicorn: now you'll be able to connect in with the eth0 IP
[23:40] <rantic> Dr_Willis: That's in the next chapter of my linux book :D
[23:40] <rantic> Dr_Willis: Thanks
[23:40] <boosali> NikTh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5724525/
[23:40] <BroUnicorn> daftykins: Sweet!
[23:40] <BroUnicorn> daftykins: Next I'll wanna make it connectable from anywhere.
[23:40] <BroUnicorn> daftykins: :O
[23:41] <daftykins> BroUnicorn: know how to port forward on your router?
[23:41] <BroUnicorn> daftykins: I've done it before but not on this router
[23:41] <daftykins> BroUnicorn: you're gonna want to set the server to have a static IP though, else it could change and break everything
[23:41] <savio> Hello all
[23:42] <daftykins> savio: o hai
[23:42] <BroUnicorn> daftykins: Okay first though, how do I change the port of the server for security?
[23:42] <BroUnicorn> daftykins: port of ssh*
[23:42] <NikTh> boosali:  Let me try it from my 12.04.
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> thats not going to do a lot for security BroUnicorn
[23:43] <BroUnicorn> Dr_Willis: Oh, okay haha
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> you can have the router forward from port   3333 for example to the internal port 22  if you wanted
[23:43] <daftykins> Dr_Willis: yes it is.
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> and for example make it forward 3334 to a differnt ssh server in the lan
[23:43] <daftykins> BroUnicorn: sudo nano /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[23:43] <sssstavr> can I install MacOS on an UBUNTU running machine without a processors that supports virtualization?
[23:43] <boosali> NikTh: there is also the file located here: /var/lib/update-manager/meta-release but its unreadable...
[23:43] <BroUnicorn> daftykins: Okay, what is nano?
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> but if someone is scanning your whole range of ports - its going to be seen
[23:44] <BlueProtoman1> Anyone?  Graphics and wi-fi driver issues?  Help?  I don't know what I'm doing!
[23:44] <daftykins> BroUnicorn: change the number, ctrl+x to save, then "sudo service ssh restart"
[23:44] <daftykins> BroUnicorn: a text editor
[23:44] <savio> Ssh is very tricky protocol first understand it then go for installation
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> BroUnicorn,  more secure setup would to be enable key based authencation, and not use password authencation
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> theres dozens of guides out there for locking down ssh.
[23:44] <BroUnicorn> daffy, can I use vi instead?
[23:44] <daftykins> BroUnicorn: if you know it, sure
[23:45] <daftykins> BlueProtoman1: you might want to try being a tad more specific about the problem
[23:45] <BroUnicorn> daftykins: what can I change it to? What are the options?
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> BroUnicorn,  you might want to leave things at the defaults untill you learn a bit more about ssh and how it works
[23:46] <daftykins> BroUnicorn: anywhere from 1025 to 65535
[23:46] <NikTh> boosali:  Is not unreadable to me.. there are info about releases.. etc
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> !ssh
[23:46] <BlueProtoman1> daftykins: I can't log in to Ubuntu 13.04 via X.  When I try, the screen just goes black except for the cursor.  I can log in on the terminal, but that's it.
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> BlueProtoman,  does the Login screen work?
[23:46] <boosali> NikTh: how do you read it?
[23:46] <daftykins> BlueProtoman1: does your system have a proper 3D graphics card?
[23:47] <BlueProtoman1> Dr_Willis, yes, but that's it.  And daftykins, yes.  It was working fine until I reinstalled Ubuntu 13.04 a few hours ago.
[23:47] <NikTh> boosali:  cat /var/lib/update-manager/meta-release-lts
[23:47] <boosali> NikTh: i think this is the problem, its a self generated file... if i delete it - and try do-release-upgrade again - it will generate it... but its still unreadable...
[23:47] <NikTh> boosali:  There is no meta-release file in my LTS.. only meta-release-lts
[23:47] <daftykins> BlueProtoman1: did you replace the existing install? if so why did you install a second time?
[23:48] <boosali> change u'r promt=normal thingi
[23:48] <daftykins> best. english. ever.
[23:48] <boosali> the meta-release-lts is also unreadable here...
[23:48] <BlueProtoman1> daftykins: Had some issues with software.  Never mind that.
[23:49] <NikTh> boosali:  you have right about meta-release and promt=normal
[23:49] <boosali> NikTh: i know :)
[23:49] <BlueProtoman1> daftykins: It was not a clean install, ie the installer didn't wipe my home folder or anything.
[23:50] <boosali> NikTh: can you send me the content of your meta-release file now?
[23:50] <boosali> NikTh: I"ll try to paste it in mine...
[23:50] <boosali> NikTh: though i would like to understand why my files are messed up...
[23:51] <daftykins> BlueProtoman1: ah ok. can you get at TTYs? ctrl+alt+F1 through F6 give you command line login screens
[23:51] <NikTh> boosali:  http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=GhfnNPYd
[23:51] <NikTh> boosali:  I would like to understand too.. :P
[23:51] <boosali> NikTh: this is from 12.04?
[23:51] <BlueProtoman1> daftykins: Yes, I'm logged in on terminal right now.
[23:51] <xubuntu> gits
[23:52] <Hexagonite> Need help choosing an Ubuntu flavor, upgrading to 13.04
[23:52] <daftykins> BlueProtoman1: what's your graphics card?
[23:52] <NikTh> boosali:  I think no matter.. only matter is if the release is an LTS of not.. in 12.04 there are listed only LTS releases and not normal releases.. that's the only difference
[23:53] <BlueProtoman1> daftykins: nVidia GeForce 520M and a Intel HD 5000, mixed with Optimus.
[23:53] <Hexagonite> Should I with Lubuntu on a netbook?
[23:53] <boosali> i think it compares the current release with a new file it downloads...
[23:53] <daftykins> BlueProtoman1: ah ok - can you pastebin a log file? /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:53] <BroUnicorn> daftykins: Okay! Sorry it took so long for me to respond
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> Hexagonite,  ubuntu works on my netbook. lubuntu is the lightest full featured ubuntu desktop.
[23:54] <TaZeR> hey guys im running low on money and i havnt paid my internet bill in a while there gonna shut it off soon, could somebody help me with this tool called aircrack so i can find my neighbours passwords?
[23:54] <NikTh> boosali:  Remove your corrupted meta-release files and create new one . Paste there the contents from pastebin and try again
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> Hexagonite,  its trivial to install ubuntu on the netbook, then install lubuntu-desktop package to have both ;)
[23:54] <Hexagonite> What netbook?
[23:54] <daftykins> BroUnicorn: np, working on the different port?
[23:54] <boosali> NikTh: exacly what i am trying to do
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> some clearance sale netbook i got at xmas time. i dont even recall if its an Asus or eee
[23:54] <BroUnicorn> daftykins: Yes I am
[23:54] <Hexagonite> I've tried the core 13.04, it freezes a lot though.
[23:54] <BlueProtoman1> daftykins: paste.ubuntu.com/5724551
[23:54] <TaZeR> i compiled and installed the aircrack 1.1 version
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> Hexagonite,  install the lubuntu-desktop package and try out lubuntu then.
[23:55] <TaZeR> but im not sure how to get the wifi passwords
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> Hexagonite,  or go real minimal and try just a window manager+ whatver tools you want
[23:55] <Hexagonite> Tried doing that, felt claustrophobic
[23:56] <boosali> NikTh: strange, now i keep getting other errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5724555/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/5724558/
[23:56] <boosali> NikTh: i actually think the "time out" might be my problem...
[23:56] <BroUnicorn> daftykins: I wq and it changed. :D
[23:57] <BroUnicorn> daftykins: except I'm not sure where I would ever see the open ports or try to connect specifically through the port
[23:57] <BlueProtoman1> daftykins: Ah, gotta go.
[23:57] <daftykins> BlueProtoman1: ok
[23:57] <boosali> NikTh: is there some special proxy or dns config for release upgrade?
[23:57] <daftykins> BroUnicorn: sorry i don't understand what you mean?
[23:57] <daftykins> BroUnicorn: you want to know how to connect now the port has changed? "ssh user@IP -p ##" where ## = new port number
[23:58] <NikTh> boosali:  no. Are you under a proxy server ? If you copy-paste the URI to a browser your will see the correct info ..
[23:58] <NikTh> boosali:  http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release
[23:58] <boosali> NikTh: i am not behind proxy...
[23:59] <boosali> NikTh: and it works
[23:59] <NikTh> boosali:  sudo apt-get update
[23:59] <cheffed> hey guys, i have such a weird problem with ubuntu that made me buy a new router. For some reason when ubuntu is logged on to my wireless it jams the wireless of my phone, i have 3 acces points at home 2x 2,4ghz channels 1x 5,0ghz channel. When i turn ubuntu off and switch to windows, all works fine, when i reboot to ubuntu.... my phone (connected to either of the 3 ssids) cannot browse the internet. i almost find this embarassing because i
[23:59] <cheffed> have the idea that this only happens to me
[23:59] <boosali> NikTh: wget doenst work on this!!!
[23:59] <BroUnicorn> daftykins: sweet
[23:59] <BroUnicorn> daftykins: Now I'm gonna make it Key Authentication