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| shadeslayer | xnox: when you say "pre empt the desktop" I'm assuming that you're loading the full desktop behind the scenes, I don't think that's a good idea, because on low end systems there might be enough memory for just one of them | 02:28 |
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| shadeslayer | ( I've seen this issue crop up in a derivative ) | 02:28 |
| shadeslayer | so you can try out the live system and then reboot and just directly installed, everything will still work post install, but atleast you can install | 02:29 |
| shadeslayer | when you load the desktop *and* ubiquity, you might not have enough memory for ubiquity to complete | 02:29 |
| shadeslayer | *and just directly install | 02:29 |
| valorie | shadeslayer: have you seen the little vid in http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2013/05/quick-update-on-vivaldi-hardware.html ? | 02:38 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 02:40 |
| * shadeslayer is looking at the Canonical IP rights policy | 02:42 | |
| shadeslayer | /o\ | 02:47 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho/articles/Matt-Smith-to-leave-Doctor-Who | 02:47 |
| valorie | wth! | 02:58 |
| valorie | although the final ep had me wondering about that | 02:58 |
| shadeslayer | <spoiler> | 03:01 |
| shadeslayer | Doesn't the doctor die in S6 | 03:01 |
| shadeslayer | when he's killed by that astronaut ... | 03:01 |
| shadeslayer | at the age of 1100 something | 03:02 |
| shadeslayer | </spoiler> | 03:02 |
| valorie | sure, and I wonder how they are going to tie all that in, since..... | 03:05 |
| valorie | well, fiery funeral, lets just say that | 03:06 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 03:06 |
| valorie | how did you do that spoiler? | 03:07 |
| valorie | shadeslayer is so leet | 03:07 |
| shadeslayer | you set the background and text to black in quassel | 03:07 |
| shadeslayer | with the arrow thingy near the text box | 03:08 |
| valorie | I guess that's possible in konvi as well | 03:08 |
| shadeslayer | probably | 03:08 |
| valorie | have you seen the end of this season yet? | 03:09 |
| shadeslayer | I've watched all of S7 | 03:10 |
| shadeslayer | I'm watching it backwards | 03:10 |
| shadeslayer | S7, now S6 | 03:10 |
| valorie | ok | 03:10 |
| shadeslayer | it's equally confusing at times :P | 03:10 |
| valorie | in true time traveler fashion | 03:10 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 03:10 |
| shadeslayer | ;) | 03:10 |
| valorie | I've watched all the eps since the reboot | 03:11 |
| valorie | now I've started with the first doctor back in the 60s | 03:11 |
| shadeslayer | S4 has matt smith as well right? | 03:11 |
| shadeslayer | hm, nope | 03:11 |
| valorie | ah, David Tennant | 03:15 |
| valorie | perhaps my favorite doctor | 03:15 |
| valorie | we'll see | 03:15 |
| shadeslayer | oh also, S6 now ties in nicely with S7 | 03:15 |
| shadeslayer | the ending of S7 | 03:15 |
| valorie | yes, they pay a lot of attention to the past | 03:16 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, just realized this | 03:16 |
| valorie | the more old stuff you see, the more interesting the new stuff is | 03:16 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 03:16 |
| ahoneybun | hello | 03:28 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: ping | 03:32 |
| valorie | pong | 03:33 |
| ahoneybun | cool | 03:35 |
| ahoneybun | I see jesse has joined us | 03:35 |
| valorie | yep, I think he's been doing the docs for the longest | 03:36 |
| valorie | having he and Darkwing work on the docbook part will be excellent | 03:36 |
| ahoneybun | for sure such experts | 03:38 |
| ahoneybun | did you see lordievader's work ? | 03:41 |
| valorie | ah, the include? | 03:42 |
| ahoneybun | yea | 03:42 |
| valorie | yes, I'm so happy that's possible | 03:42 |
| ahoneybun | is that better? | 03:42 |
| valorie | because truly, the less we copy, the better | 03:42 |
| valorie | best to have ONE place to update | 03:42 |
| valorie | I was thinking about images too | 03:42 |
| valorie | would be cool to get them organized, especially screenies, and be careful to use one shot over again rather than having two similar ones | 03:43 |
| ahoneybun | I'm just wondering how that is better then just another page, it still links to the other subpage | 03:43 |
| valorie | so when one is updated, it'll update everywhere | 03:43 |
| ahoneybun | lordievader has more knowledge of the wiki then I it would seem | 03:44 |
| valorie | because when the include is updated, so is the wiki page | 03:44 |
| ahoneybun | I know | 03:44 |
| ahoneybun | oh | 03:44 |
| ahoneybun | did not know that | 03:44 |
| valorie | I used to use includes on my webpages | 03:44 |
| valorie | for stuff like copyright | 03:44 |
| valorie | you fix the include, and all your pages are fixed | 03:44 |
| valorie | unfortunately that might break when we moved everything, if/when that happens | 03:45 |
| valorie | but whatever | 03:45 |
| ahoneybun | but the include is just the where to start and end in the other page | 03:46 |
| valorie | my goal now is to make what we've got the best | 03:46 |
| valorie | and I'll deal with the future when it arrives | 03:46 |
| ahoneybun | he also gave us a clean install kickoff screenshot | 03:47 |
| ahoneybun | for the software page | 03:47 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: as the trello reflects I believe the Getting Involved page is done | 03:49 |
| ahoneybun | or has a good start | 03:49 |
| valorie | yes, I think it's good | 03:51 |
| valorie | I'll go through the other 'done' pages again, but I think we're doing really well | 03:51 |
| ahoneybun | I think so as well | 03:52 |
| ahoneybun | how would you rate the software/development page as being done? | 03:54 |
| valorie | not sure; i need some feedback from devels about accuracy and completeness | 03:55 |
| ahoneybun | ok | 03:55 |
| valorie | then I'll get links | 03:55 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Software | 03:55 |
| valorie | I ran out of steam doing that, and then figured why do work that should be tossed anyway? | 03:56 |
| ahoneybun | so we are tossing it? | 03:56 |
| valorie | no, no | 03:56 |
| valorie | but perhaps some of what I listed isn't much used | 03:56 |
| valorie | so should be removed from the lists | 03:57 |
| ahoneybun | utils should be one | 03:57 |
| ahoneybun | I think | 03:57 |
| valorie | the only problem I have with that screenie is that the slider is at the bottom instead of the top | 03:57 |
| valorie | why shouldn't we cover utilities? | 03:57 |
| ahoneybun | I see | 03:57 |
| valorie | some people don't even know what we have to offer | 03:57 |
| valorie | I meant on the actual devel page | 03:58 |
| ahoneybun | lordievader: ping | 03:58 |
| ahoneybun | oh ok | 03:58 |
| ahoneybun | the software/devel ? | 03:58 |
| valorie | it's very high quality, but it would be best to match our list | 03:58 |
| valorie | yes | 03:58 |
| ahoneybun | the image is good quality? | 03:59 |
| valorie | anyway, I'm going to watch a movie for awhile | 03:59 |
| valorie | yes, the image is good quality, but I think the slider should be at the top so the image matches our list of pages | 03:59 |
| valorie | I'll bbl | 03:59 |
| ahoneybun | k | 03:59 |
| ahoneybun | but | 03:59 |
| valorie | but? | 03:59 |
| ahoneybun | I think I would be a team member of the docs team, no? | 04:00 |
| valorie | what?' | 04:00 |
| valorie | where | 04:00 |
| ahoneybun | a member of the docs team | 04:00 |
| ahoneybun | launchpad? just asking | 04:00 |
| valorie | oh | 04:00 |
| valorie | sure | 04:00 |
| valorie | mostly that is so we can check out the docbook files | 04:01 |
| ahoneybun | I will not hold you up for the movie | 04:01 |
| valorie | at this point, what we have is mostly junk | 04:01 |
| valorie | imo | 04:01 |
| ahoneybun | the wiki pages? | 04:01 |
| valorie | present docbook=junk | 04:01 |
| ahoneybun | ok | 04:02 |
| valorie | you've got the best of it in the wiki pages | 04:02 |
| ahoneybun | http://docs.xubuntu.org/1304/offline-packages.html | 04:02 |
| valorie | yeah, i read that | 04:02 |
| valorie | pretty cool | 04:02 |
| valorie | I wonder if that works for us too? | 04:02 |
| valorie | anyway, back in awhile | 04:02 |
| ahoneybun | http://docs.xubuntu.org/1304/index.html | 04:03 |
| ahoneybun | one more thing sorry | 04:03 |
| ahoneybun | I think this is awesome | 04:03 |
| valorie | I like ours better, but they have some excellent ideas as well | 04:03 |
| ahoneybun | yea | 04:04 |
| ahoneybun | I'll talk to you later | 04:04 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: time travel | 07:32 |
| shadeslayer | ?? | 07:33 |
| apachelogger | the answer to every dw question is time travel | 07:33 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 07:34 |
| shadeslayer | but really, it makes no sense :P | 07:34 |
| shadeslayer | He clearly dies, they burn his body, he is not not transferred to another body as Professor Song clearly says | 07:34 |
| shadeslayer | the most fun part is that there's no Clara Oswald there | 07:35 |
| shadeslayer | seeing as he's > 1100 years old, he's obviously met her in S7, but no Clara Oswald in S6 when he dies | 07:35 |
| apachelogger | well | 07:36 |
| apachelogger | he was gone once | 07:36 |
| apachelogger | then he was dancing at a wedding | 07:36 |
| shadeslayer | :S | 07:36 |
| apachelogger | and to make that happen moffat didn't even need time travel | 07:37 |
| apachelogger | .... | 07:37 |
| shadeslayer | younger Doctor who just happened to be there? | 07:37 |
| shadeslayer | will have to see that episode to really comment :P | 07:37 |
| apachelogger | many options | 07:37 |
| apachelogger | you could take an asortment of drugs | 07:37 |
| shadeslayer | super slow torrents, barely any seeders :( | 07:37 |
| apachelogger | whatever you come up with is probably close to what is going to happen :P | 07:37 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 07:38 |
| apachelogger | anyway, it wouldn't be him saving himself | 07:39 |
| apachelogger | it never is | 07:39 |
| apachelogger | at the very best someone else will have to enable him to do that | 07:39 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, can't be that, isn't there a rule about not going back into your own time or sth? | 07:40 |
| shadeslayer | too much of a pradox | 07:40 |
| apachelogger | there's rules, and there is the doctor :P | 07:40 |
| shadeslayer | haha | 07:40 |
| apachelogger | the paradox would try to auto-correct IIRC | 07:41 |
| apachelogger | so it's not impossible, it's just not a very good idea as you may turn yourself into green goo | 07:41 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: do you have season 6 on your HDD? | 07:43 |
| shadeslayer | can you make it available to me ? :P | 07:43 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 07:46 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://www.ebay.in/itm/Doctor-Who-Sonic-Screwdriver-Programmable-Universal-Remote-Control-Coll-ILJ-/290866846505?pt=IN_LCD_LED_Plasma_Televisions&hash=item43b903db29#ht_2939wt_908 | 07:46 |
| lordievader | ahoneybun: Pong, do you guys need a new/better screenshot? I'm on it! | 07:58 |
| lordievader | ahoneybun, valorie: Made a screenshot with the slider in the top position. https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Software | 08:12 |
| lordievader | ahoneybun: Would it be nice to have the Muon screenshots without the mouse-cursor? | 08:59 |
| apachelogger | ahoneybun, lordievader: actually the documentation order is wrong, MSC should be the first and preferred version | 09:19 |
| lordievader | apachelogger: I have it noted ;) | 09:24 |
| BluesKaj_ | Hey all | 11:00 |
| soee | good morning | 11:01 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1186721] package libqt4-designer 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.4 failed to install/upgrade: erreur lors de l'éc... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1186721 (by joe fobs) | 13:22 |
| lordievader | ahoneybun: ping | 18:28 |
| ahoneybun | lordievader: ping | 19:41 |
| markey | I'm starting to wonder if there's something wrong with QtScript in Kubuntu. Amarok is crashing a lot with scripts, and the crashes are always deep in the QtScript library | 19:43 |
| markey | on Gentoo noone can reproduce these | 19:43 |
| lordievader | ahoneybun: Have you seen apachelogger's comment about Muon? | 19:43 |
| ahoneybun | kinda did not fully understand | 19:44 |
| lordievader | ahoneybun: In the software section we talk about the Muon Package Manager, if I understand apachelogger correctly the Muon Software Center is preferred. | 19:46 |
| ahoneybun | yea I see that after rereading | 19:46 |
| ahoneybun | lordievader: look at the repository section, it say for more information see the /basic/managingrepositories but all the content on that page is on the basic page | 19:48 |
| lordievader | ahoneybun: Only the adding/removing repos is on the basic page. | 19:48 |
| ahoneybun | lordievader: switched and done | 19:48 |
| lordievader | ahoneybun: ? | 19:49 |
| ahoneybun | I put MSC before MPM | 19:49 |
| lordievader | Ah, oke. Nice. | 19:50 |
| lordievader | ahoneybun: Anyhow do you like what I did with the basic page? | 19:51 |
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| ahoneybun | lordievader: expand the other subpages onto it? | 19:56 |
| lordievader | What other subpages are you talking about? | 19:56 |
| ahoneybun | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Basic/ManagingSoftware | 20:04 |
| ahoneybun | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Basic/ManagingRepositories | 20:04 |
| lordievader | I just made a slight change to ManagingRepos. Still aint clear what you want... | 20:08 |
| lordievader | ahoneybun: ^ | 20:08 |
| ahoneybun | what I we want is for the docs to the best they can be | 20:09 |
| ahoneybun | bbl | 20:09 |
| lordievader | True, true. | 20:10 |
| lordievader | ahoneybun: I'm going to bed, talk to you tommorow. | 20:30 |
| valorie | lordievader: excellent screenie! thanks | 21:24 |
| valorie | so Development isn't first in the default menu? | 21:25 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: pin | 22:57 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: I don't think it is there unless you install something related to it | 22:59 |
| valorie | ah, that's a thought | 23:09 |
| valorie | maybe we should move that to the bottom then | 23:09 |
| valorie | I couldn't find your template so I didn't make any new pages last night | 23:10 |
| valorie | did you save one? | 23:10 |
| ahoneybun | no I use the KubuntuTemplate one | 23:28 |
| valorie | ok, I'll use that then | 23:29 |
| valorie | also: http://home.chpc.utah.edu/~davidr/humor/pricelist.html is funny | 23:29 |
| ahoneybun | lol | 23:31 |
| valorie | esp. the last line | 23:36 |
| valorie | grabbed that from the kde-sysadmin chan | 23:36 |
| ahoneybun | how does one make a template | 23:38 |
| valorie | I assume save it as a template? | 23:38 |
| valorie | not sure | 23:38 |
| valorie | I hate moinmoin, so I've not investigated that | 23:39 |
| ahoneybun | not sure as well | 23:39 |
| ahoneybun | the only issue with the KubuntuTemplate is that is has the topbar that is so old | 23:40 |
| valorie | right, that's why I didn't use it | 23:42 |
| ahoneybun | I just removed that part | 23:45 |
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| ahoneybun | I have been kinda starting from nothing and just coping my older work | 23:52 |
| valorie | I was too tired to do that last night | 23:55 |
| valorie | it will all get done in time | 23:55 |
| valorie | and we have plenty of time | 23:55 |
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