| penguin42 | the phi is the gpu like thing | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| daftykins | oh? | 00:01 |
| penguin42 | yeh, it's 60 cores, x86 programmable (ish?) but lives on a PCI-e card | 00:02 |
| daftykins | ooh | 00:03 |
| hamitron | so get an AMD APU that lacks cpu horsepower, but provides graphics, then use the pci-e slot saved for real cpu power? ;) | 00:04 |
| penguin42 | http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Intel-Xeon-Phi-Coprocessor-CPU,22700.html | 00:04 |
| daftykins | ah yeah | 00:05 |
| penguin42 | hamitron: There's talk of HPC systems built around ARMs with GPUs wired off them becaus the main CPU doesn't have to do much | 00:05 |
| daftykins | http://gypsyops.aresgate.net/~vladi/bad_xbmc_ati_r300.jpg | 00:06 |
| daftykins | guy getting that with XBMC on his r300 card with 'radeon' driver | 00:06 |
| daftykins | glxgears does it too | 00:06 |
| daftykins | means he has to run fglrx, no? | 00:06 |
| penguin42 | I'd be surprised if fglrx ran on something that old | 00:07 |
| daftykins | oh it's old? oops | 00:07 |
| daftykins | ah yes 9000 series | 00:09 |
| daftykins | ouchies | 00:09 |
| hamitron | I personally think everything on 1 chip is best | 00:17 |
| hamitron | well, the future | 00:19 |
| hamitron | oops | 00:23 |
| hamitron | ;/ | 00:23 |
| daftykins | SoC? | 00:23 |
| hamitron | well, certainly heading that way | 00:23 |
| daftykins | depends on the task i think | 00:24 |
| penguin42 | not too sure it's the way I want to go - you end up with very little choice | 00:24 |
| hamitron | lowers the total cost of a unit | 00:24 |
| hamitron | penguin42, agreed | 00:24 |
| hamitron | that is why i corrected my "best" statement | 00:24 |
| hamitron | :/ | 00:24 |
| hamitron | although, windows 8 has really changed the way I work now | 00:25 |
| hamitron | so maybe change is ok | 00:25 |
| hamitron | just hoping there is always a viable normal desktop "hobbyist" option | 00:26 |
| daftykins | hamitron: are you actually getting on with 8? i'd get a start menu prog if i installed it :( | 00:28 |
| hamitron | I rarely use the desktop on it tbh | 00:28 |
| hamitron | I had to follow a load of video tutorials more than once, to remember how to do things | 00:29 |
| hamitron | my main complaint, is you HAVE to go to the desktop for some things | 00:30 |
| daftykins | oh is this on a tablet? | 00:30 |
| hamitron | no, laptop with touch screen | 00:30 |
| daftykins | ah | 00:30 |
| daftykins | i don't really know how to use it but also i can't see myself using the 'new' start screen at all | 00:30 |
| daftykins | i don't want to peer at little boxes :( | 00:30 |
| hamitron | you don't, they are big boxes | 00:31 |
| hamitron | ;) | 00:31 |
| daftykins | pfft | 00:31 |
| hamitron | I wish they'd allow them to be smaller :/ | 00:31 |
| daftykins | i'm probably just at the age where change is becoming scary | 00:31 |
| daftykins | i dunno | 00:31 |
| daftykins | 8.1 is allegedly gonna make 'em resizable i think | 00:31 |
| daftykins | may've misread / imagined | 00:32 |
| hamitron | well, I am a stick in the mud sort of person | 00:32 |
| hamitron | ;D | 00:32 |
| hamitron | and I gotta say, windows 8 doesn't work unless you learn to work differently | 00:32 |
| hamitron | and probably need a touch screen | 00:32 |
| hamitron | daftykins, like what they did to windows phone 7? | 00:33 |
| daftykins | mmm i'd find it weird touching a laptop screen | 00:34 |
| daftykins | :> | 00:34 |
| hamitron | it is | 00:34 |
| hamitron | :) | 00:34 |
| daftykins | i have no idea about windows phone, i've not used one since v6 | 00:34 |
| hamitron | I have a windows phone too | 00:34 |
| hamitron | ;) | 00:34 |
| hamitron | "know the enemy" | 00:35 |
| daftykins | D: | 00:35 |
| daftykins | there's that | 00:35 |
| hamitron | it was cheap too | 00:35 |
| daftykins | *shrug* i got my nexus 4 for about £290 | 00:35 |
| daftykins | anywho i must head off, crazy o'clock is fast approaching | 00:36 |
| hamitron | kk | 00:36 |
| hamitron | mine was £99 | 00:36 |
| hamitron | ;) | 00:36 |
| daftykins | D: | 00:36 |
| hamitron | and galaxy nexus was like, £360 at the time | 00:36 |
| hamitron | I'd be interested to hear from anyone that uses ubuntu on a touch screen though | 00:37 |
| hamitron | heh, /boot needs to be bigger than 70MB these days :/ | 00:40 |
| penguin42 | yeh and Ubuntu doesn't seem to clean up in there that well | 00:43 |
| hamitron | yeh, time to remove old kernels | 00:44 |
| hamitron | haha | 00:44 |
| hamitron | this is what I get for being lazy and not watching what is happening ;) | 00:44 |
| hamitron | think I'll make it 512MB next time | 00:47 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 09:33 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 10:10 |
| brobostigon | morning bigcalm :) | 10:11 |
| popey | exobuzz: happy birthday! | 11:00 |
| exobuzz | thanks matey! | 11:03 |
| exobuzz | /dcc send cake popey | 11:04 |
| === AlanChicken is now known as AlanBell | ||
| penguin42 | hmm I didn't know about the : command in bash | 14:20 |
| neuro | oh good, just when i need to look at something on github ... | 14:36 |
| penguin42 | yeh | 14:38 |
| penguin42 | you getting the angry unicorn or the other one? | 14:38 |
| mgdm | penguin42: what's that do? | 15:55 |
| penguin42 | mgdm: : is the same as true | 15:56 |
| penguin42 | mgdm: I saw a post on lkml where someone used while : | 15:56 |
| mgdm | ahh | 15:57 |
| penguin42 | that saves 3 characters! | 15:57 |
| mgdm | I will probably avoid it because true is more obvious, but good to know :) | 15:57 |
| penguin42 | nod | 15:58 |
| === graingert is now known as Guest63291 | ||
| shauno | wow. chillies do *not* go in the slow cooker. I think I've invented a chemical weapon | 18:31 |
| penguin42 | haha | 18:32 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: what happened? | 18:35 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: we need details if we're to weaponise this | 18:36 |
| shauno | scotch bonnet & mustard in a thai curry. so far it's taken me 2 hours and one shower, and I've a third of the plate left | 18:37 |
| === dogmatic69__ is now known as dogmatic69 | ||
| shauno | I'm fairly convinced that if this was airborne, I'd have UN inspectors to dinner | 18:38 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: and/or MI5/6 | 18:39 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: (do you count as foreign or domestic?) | 18:39 |
| shauno | probably "yes", since I'm in the republic with a british passport | 18:39 |
| * MartijnVdS installs Ubuntu on a Haswell i7-4770K machine | 18:41 | |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ Sunday openings | 18:41 |
| penguin42 | MartijnVdS: hth did you find somewhere to sell you that already ? | 18:42 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: yeah, they even had a special "overclockers" event with Gigabyte and Corsair | 18:42 |
| popey | nice | 18:42 |
| penguin42 | MartijnVdS: Can you post an lspci and a cat /proc/cpuinfo ? | 18:42 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: so they had a "€25 off the CPU if you buy a Gigabyte motherboard deal" | 18:42 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: once it's booted, sure | 18:42 |
| MartijnVdS | it's currently "running post-installation trigger update-notifier-common" | 18:43 |
| MartijnVdS | has been for a few minutes too! | 18:43 |
| penguin42 | hmm - you doing a saucy or a raring? | 18:43 |
| MartijnVdS | raringh | 18:43 |
| penguin42 | mind you if it's got that far I'd expect it to survive - but I wouldn't have expected a machine like that for you to have to wait for it | 18:43 |
| penguin42 | how much ram/disk did you get | 18:44 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: 16G, a 120GB SSD and 3TB 7200rpm disk | 18:44 |
| penguin42 | nice | 18:44 |
| penguin42 | make -j :-) | 18:44 |
| MartijnVdS | 8-) | 18:44 |
| MartijnVdS | The "Racoon" logo at the end of the Raring install makes me think of http://www.youtube.com/user/thebrainscoop | 18:45 |
| MartijnVdS | (which has a creepy raccoon in EVERY video) | 18:45 |
| MartijnVdS | racoon.. raccoon.. aagh! | 18:45 |
| penguin42 | which CPU? | 18:46 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: i7-4770k | 18:46 |
| penguin42 | ah you went with the overclocker version rather than the one with the fun bits | 18:46 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: they had one running at 6.3GHz using liquid N2 | 18:46 |
| penguin42 | haha | 18:47 |
| penguin42 | MartijnVdS: Go on, how much did it cost? | 18:48 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: total? €1100ish | 18:49 |
| penguin42 | not too bad | 18:50 |
| MartijnVdS | including an all-in-one pre-filled water cooling block | 18:50 |
| penguin42 | MartijnVdS: What's it's name? | 18:52 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: Seidon 120 | 18:52 |
| penguin42 | why? | 18:53 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: quieter, better cooling performance | 18:53 |
| penguin42 | no, I mean what's the name you are giving to the machine | 18:53 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: "desktop" | 18:54 |
| penguin42 | boring! | 18:54 |
| MartijnVdS | <-- inspired | 18:54 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: http://martijn.vandestreek.net/~martijn/haswell/ | 18:54 |
| * SuperEngineer calls his "pooter" | 18:56 | |
| * penguin42 looks up your fun new flags :-) | 18:58 | |
| penguin42 | MartijnVdS: Nice, dmesg is reasonably clean - couple of moans about bios bugs (not seen a clean one) - there is a [drm:i915_write32] *ERROR* Unknown unclaimed register before writing to c5100 which looks like a fun graphics one | 19:00 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: well it's a new generation, so there are bound to be things like that | 19:00 |
| penguin42 | nod | 19:01 |
| MartijnVdS | the bios has some weird bugs as well, it sometimes falls back to a text mode-ish mode, from its cool graphicsy thing | 19:01 |
| penguin42 | text mode is good | 19:01 |
| MartijnVdS | sure, everything works.. but it shouldn't fall back to text mode halfway through | 19:02 |
| penguin42 | yeh | 19:03 |
| MartijnVdS | heh, it's keeping the CPU at 35°C | 19:03 |
| MartijnVdS | yay overclocking to 4GHz + ondemand cpufreq stuff (or whatever the default is these days :) | 19:03 |
| penguin42 | nice | 19:04 |
| MartijnVdS | and now it's time to use that gigabit ;) | 19:10 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: I have the Cooler Master Silencio 550 case | 19:15 |
| MartijnVdS | and it actually is! | 19:15 |
| MartijnVdS | (quiet) | 19:15 |
| penguin42 | ah good - hate noisy computers | 19:16 |
| MartijnVdS | yay Intel | 19:35 |
| MartijnVdS | [ 4.132] (II) intel(0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following RandR disabled message. | 19:35 |
| MartijnVdS | [ 4.132] (--) RandR disabled | 19:35 |
| Laney | haha | 19:37 |
| StevenR | MartijnVdS: one free gem, shipped with every kernel :) | 19:40 |
| MartijnVdS | rsyncing steam first.. let's see if HL2 works :) | 19:44 |
| daftykins | evening all o/ | 19:49 |
| popey | yo | 19:49 |
| daftykins | back in from a bit of simple network cabling at a friends | 19:50 |
| daftykins | poor lads colourblind, so i said i'd help out :D | 19:50 |
| daftykins | lots of Guernsey houses are made of 2 foot thick granite, so his house now has 3 wireless access points O_O | 19:50 |
| DJones | daftykins: Is that internal walls as well? | 19:52 |
| daftykins | yep | 19:52 |
| DJones | Ouch | 19:53 |
| daftykins | mostly due to extensions | 19:53 |
| daftykins | proper old school homes over here | 19:53 |
| daftykins | mines a 17th century cottage with granite | 19:53 |
| daftykins | wooden floors though so i can go up through perfectly :D | 19:53 |
| MartijnVdS | wow.. new google maps (Webgl) is *fluid* on Haswell | 19:53 |
| MartijnVdS | where it stutters a lot on .. first-gen core i3 | 19:54 |
| daftykins | you bought one already or are reading up? :D | 19:54 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: I have it already | 19:54 |
| daftykins | :O | 19:54 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: installing it now :) | 19:54 |
| daftykins | how'd you get it so soon? | 19:54 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: Special Sunday opening of the computer store :) | 19:54 |
| daftykins | i don't even think most UK retailers i know have it listed | 19:54 |
| daftykins | haha | 19:54 |
| daftykins | amazing dedication, sir | 19:54 |
| popey | how much did the cpu/board combo come to? | 19:55 |
| popey | did you have to get RAM too? | 19:55 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: I went to see the overclocking contest (with a chance of *winning* haswell + a mainboard) | 19:55 |
| MartijnVdS | but I didn't win | 19:55 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: CPU + board + RAM = €660 | 19:55 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: I got some cool 2133MHz RAM sticks from Kingston | 19:55 |
| popey | have you run HRB on it? | 19:55 |
| MartijnVdS | HRB? | 19:55 |
| daftykins | crikey | 19:55 |
| DJones | daftykins: My parents house was originally built be a builder as his own house, so he used the best materials he could get, as a result all the bricks he used are firebricks, when we moved in, people fitting central heating burned out 4 drills and countless tungsten tipped drills | 19:55 |
| popey | http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/wiki/HugoRandomBenchmark | 19:55 |
| popey | time perl -e 'for($i=0;$i<1e8;$i++) { }' | 19:56 |
| popey | run that ☻ | 19:56 |
| daftykins | DJones: wowzer! don't want to try any mods anytime soon then? :D | 19:56 |
| daftykins | i've an i7 3770K ivy bridge in front of me i could compare to running that? XD | 19:57 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: real0m2.809s | 19:57 |
| MartijnVdS | user0m2.804s | 19:57 |
| MartijnVdS | sys0m0.000s | 19:57 |
| MartijnVdS | i7-4770k @ 4GHz \o/ | 19:57 |
| popey | yay, you win | 19:57 |
| MartijnVdS | for now | 19:58 |
| daftykins | MartijnVdS: didn't fancy 2.4-2.9GHz DDR3? :) | 19:58 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: That's even more expensive! :) | 19:58 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: this is fast enough for now | 19:58 |
| daftykins | ^_^ | 19:58 |
| daftykins | yeah i got Adata 2 x 8GB 2133MHz stuff for this friends build, that was £108 | 19:59 |
| daftykins | gotta love the simplicity of the stuff with the XMP SPD profiles | 20:00 |
| daftykins | enter BIOS, enable XMP, save and exit - done \o/ | 20:00 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: I have Kingstons | 20:00 |
| MartijnVdS | except.. Y U NO DEFAULT | 20:00 |
| daftykins | because it's technically out of spec for some hardware :> | 20:01 |
| daftykins | but yeah i get you | 20:01 |
| MartijnVdS | then don't sell it in a "2133MHz" kit | 20:01 |
| daftykins | companies have always sold speeds outside of JEDEC regulation though | 20:01 |
| daftykins | MartijnVdS: are you going to enjoy seeing what graphical quirks it has then? | 20:02 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: graphical quirks? :) | 20:02 |
| * MartijnVdS hasn't seen any yet | 20:02 | |
| MartijnVdS | left4dead2 takes some time to sync, even on gbit | 20:02 |
| MartijnVdS | rsync* | 20:02 |
| daftykins | is that the most recent thing you have? | 20:03 |
| MartijnVdS | yeah | 20:03 |
| MartijnVdS | well, I think so | 20:04 |
| daftykins | time to make myself a latte i think | 20:04 |
| daftykins | and possibly choose a film | 20:04 |
| mungbean | was watching football then my pvr change channels because my wife is recording two other programmes :( | 20:09 |
| daftykins | football is bad mmkay! ;) | 20:10 |
| daftykins | mungbean: time for a triple feed card ;) | 20:10 |
| ali1234 | is there a way to redeem steam keys without installing the games? | 20:11 |
| MartijnVdS | maybe on the website? | 20:11 |
| daftykins | ^that'd be my thought | 20:11 |
| MartijnVdS | or from the wrong architecture (code for a Windows-only game on Linux, for example) | 20:12 |
| MartijnVdS | also.. you can say "Install now" then start deleting it immediately I think | 20:12 |
| daftykins | when i redeemed a code the other day it just added the game to the list though, it didn't download it unless asked | 20:12 |
| MartijnVdS | or cancel the install | 20:12 |
| daftykins | this was the Windows steam client though | 20:12 |
| ali1234 | "delete local content"? | 20:14 |
| MartijnVdS | yes | 20:14 |
| ali1234 | when i add the keys there is no option to not install the game | 20:14 |
| ali1234 | unless the key has multiple games | 20:14 |
| ali1234 | but then you have to install at least one of them or you can't click on "next" | 20:14 |
| daftykins | :( | 20:14 |
| ali1234 | there is no option to add keys on the website | 20:14 |
| daftykins | might be in via profile? | 20:15 |
| daftykins | tbh even on Windows the client is an absolute joke | 20:15 |
| daftykins | on the highest end hardware it just sits and has the whole UI freeze ;/ | 20:16 |
| popey | I've not had that on linux windows or osx | 20:16 |
| popey | well, it pauses for a while | 20:16 |
| daftykins | sometimes it lies claiming there's no internet connection too | 20:16 |
| daftykins | that's an odd one | 20:16 |
| popey | yeah, i had that | 20:17 |
| mungbean | tvcatchup.com , what a fail | 20:17 |
| daftykins | not even a windows restart fixed that XD | 20:17 |
| daftykins | mungbean: their service is? my friends friend runs it | 20:17 |
| ali1234 | the client freeze is caused by html5 | 20:17 |
| ali1234 | you have to manually copy flash plugin into the steam plugins folder | 20:17 |
| ali1234 | and it has to be the 32bit one | 20:17 |
| mungbean | daftykins: doesn't work for me | 20:18 |
| mungbean | requesting itv, then flash dies | 20:18 |
| daftykins | oh well - flash... :D | 20:18 |
| mungbean | wfm on other sites | 20:18 |
| popey | i use tvcatchup quite a bit | 20:19 |
| popey | seems to bork out now and then | 20:19 |
| mungbean | ok works on firefox, not chrome | 20:19 |
| mungbean | well the adverts are. | 20:19 |
| daftykins | they have some serious hardware behind the scenes :D | 20:19 |
| popey | works fine here in chromium | 20:19 |
| brobostigon | the android app seems to work quite well. | 20:19 |
| daftykins | in their data center they have some crazy fibre feed from the sat dish inside to split it off the many ways | 20:19 |
| popey | bit stuttery | 20:19 |
| ali1234 | adding all these keys is going to take forever | 20:20 |
| popey | oh balls | 20:20 |
| brobostigon | lol | 20:20 |
| brobostigon | :( | 20:20 |
| popey | my Ouya is arriving in the next couple of days | 20:20 |
| popey | and I'm away | 20:20 |
| brobostigon | :( | 20:20 |
| daftykins | they're tegra 3 aren't they? | 20:21 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: so the kids get to play with it before you? ;) | 20:21 |
| daftykins | is it final now or still development kit level? | 20:21 |
| popey | its going in the stores this month, so final | 20:23 |
| ali1234 | hmm a lot of these games don't have linux versions on steam | 20:24 |
| popey | you adding keys for HiB8? | 20:24 |
| ali1234 | i'm adding keys for every bundle since 5 | 20:25 |
| ali1234 | 10 bundles in total | 20:25 |
| popey | ahh | 20:25 |
| ali1234 | each one has between 3 and 10 keys | 20:25 |
| ali1234 | so far out of about 30 games only 14 have linux versions | 20:26 |
| popey | yeah, its a shame you can't bundle them together and add them all | 20:26 |
| ali1234 | oh fun another bundle with separate keys for each game | 20:26 |
| mungbean | i stopped buying HB when i realised i was just collecting games to not play them | 20:27 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 20:28 |
| ali1234 | well, there's usually 1 or 2 good games in each bundle | 20:28 |
| popey | i like having them for opportunistic play | 20:29 |
| daftykins | mungbean: so true :D | 20:29 |
| mungbean | last one i played was SMB or limbo for 1/2 hour | 20:30 |
| shauno | it'd be really neat if you could 'claim' your HB account in steam | 20:30 |
| mungbean | about a year ago | 20:30 |
| daftykins | the Ouya kinda concerned me, because i don't hugely see a market for what they've done | 20:30 |
| ali1234 | popey: you know, redeeming these games on USC isn't any better... | 20:30 |
| popey | its worse on usc | 20:30 |
| popey | way more clicks | 20:30 |
| ali1234 | it's fewer actually | 20:31 |
| MartijnVdS | HL2 WORKS | 20:31 |
| mungbean | \o/ | 20:31 |
| * MartijnVdS does a little dance | 20:31 | |
| mungbean | i have the DVD of that somewhere | 20:31 |
| ali1234 | with steam you have to: copy key, click "add game", paste key, click next 3 times, wait 20 seconds, click next, click cancel | 20:31 |
| ali1234 | with USC you just click the button for each game | 20:32 |
| ali1234 | it takes just as long though | 20:32 |
| mungbean | stutterrr..buffer... | 20:33 |
| mungbean | maybe its my bb line | 20:33 |
| bigcalm | Good evening peeps :) | 20:34 |
| mgdm | 'lo | 20:34 |
| daftykins | \o | 20:35 |
| popey | pip pip bigcalm | 20:36 |
| daftykins | ali1234: sometimes i wonder if performing the task itself might not be quicker than your discussion of it ;) | 20:37 |
| daftykins | MartijnVdS: any plans for your old setup? | 20:38 |
| ali1234 | after you add each key steam takes 30 seconds to activate it which is plenty of time to write something here | 20:38 |
| ali1234 | it's a modal dialog of course | 20:38 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: no idea yet | 20:40 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: I can probably find an interested family member | 20:40 |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ big family ;) | 20:40 |
| daftykins | =] | 20:41 |
| MartijnVdS | OK.. rsyncing music & photos. Time for sleep! :) | 20:41 |
| bemod | hii | 20:42 |
| bemod | i need help | 20:42 |
| bigcalm | !ping | 20:42 |
| lubotu3 | pong! | 20:42 |
| bigcalm | !ding | 20:42 |
| lubotu3 | dong | 20:42 |
| bigcalm | Bloomin 3g | 20:43 |
| popey | bemod: ask away | 20:43 |
| bemod | pl | 20:43 |
| bemod | ok* | 20:43 |
| bemod | how i can stream udp in my ubuntu | 20:44 |
| bemod | ? | 20:44 |
| bemod | popey: ^ | 20:44 |
| popey | streaming audio/video from a server? | 20:44 |
| bemod | webcam | 20:44 |
| popey | oh, stream your webcam to the internet? | 20:44 |
| bemod | stream and recive it | 20:45 |
| bemod | no | 20:45 |
| popey | I don't understand what you want to do | 20:45 |
| ali1234 | vlc can do it | 20:45 |
| ali1234 | he wants to stream webcam on UDP | 20:45 |
| bemod | it's not work at all | 20:45 |
| ali1234 | yeah it's tricky | 20:45 |
| ali1234 | you have to make sure you have multicast addresses configured properly | 20:45 |
| bemod | 127.0.0.1 it's ok? | 20:46 |
| bemod | 244.0.0.1? | 20:46 |
| bemod | not work at all. | 20:46 |
| daftykins | blind leading the blind | 20:46 |
| bemod | daftykins: what do you mean? | 20:47 |
| daftykins | nothing don't worry :) | 20:47 |
| bemod | ali1234: you can guide me? | 20:48 |
| ali1234 | sure i'm just reading up on it. it's been a while since i did it | 20:48 |
| ali1234 | 224 is the multicast address, not 244 | 20:49 |
| ali1234 | i would recommend that you first test it using a video file rather than the webcam to isolate any problems with hardware | 20:50 |
| ali1234 | ah you need to use 239 as that's the private address range | 20:51 |
| bemod | 239.0.0.1 is ok? | 20:52 |
| ali1234 | yes | 20:52 |
| ali1234 | on the server you do this: vlc -vvv file.avi –sout udp:239.0.0.1 –ttl 12 –loop | 20:52 |
| ali1234 | on the client you do this: vlc -vvv udp:@239.0.0.1 | 20:53 |
| ali1234 | the client should then show the file.avi | 20:53 |
| ali1234 | when you have that working you can adjust the server to play from webcam instead of a file | 20:53 |
| ali1234 | if it doesn't work, check what packets are sent and received with tcpdump | 20:53 |
| bemod | how i do it? | 20:55 |
| ali1234 | how do you do what? | 20:55 |
| bemod | webcam > vlc transmit > vlc recive, | 20:59 |
| ali1234 | ah it should be this to receive: vlc -vvv udp://@239.0.0.1 | 21:01 |
| bemod | and how i can transmit? | 21:01 |
| bemod | the recevie is the easy part... | 21:02 |
| ali1234 | vlc -vvv file.avi –sout udp:239.0.0.1 –ttl 12 –loop | 21:02 |
| ali1234 | or for webcam: vlc -vvv v4l2:///dev/video0 –sout udp:239.0.0.1 –ttl 12 –loop | 21:02 |
| bemod | ali1234: i try now | 21:03 |
| bemod | in the trnsmit command - i see video on the screen | 21:04 |
| ali1234 | hang on | 21:05 |
| bemod | in the receive command - noting happend | 21:05 |
| ali1234 | it's because yu copy pasted that command | 21:05 |
| ali1234 | and i copy pasted it from a website | 21:05 |
| ali1234 | and the website replaced -- with emdash | 21:05 |
| ali1234 | vlc -vvv v4l2:///dev/video0 --sout udp:239.0.0.1 --ttl 12 --loop | 21:05 |
| ali1234 | try that instead | 21:06 |
| ali1234 | i know it looks the same but it isn't | 21:06 |
| bemod | ali1234: now boat of tham not works. | 21:07 |
| ali1234 | well, it works for me | 21:08 |
| ali1234 | try dropping the loop param, i guess it makes no sense for webcam | 21:09 |
| bemod | what you use to transmmit? | 21:09 |
| bemod | i try to receive the stream with mplayer and i get this | 21:12 |
| bemod | No stream found to handle url udp://@239.0.0.1:1234 | 21:12 |
| ali1234 | probably it isn't transmitting | 21:14 |
| ali1234 | check with tcpdump if you are receiving any packets | 21:14 |
| bemod | how i use it? | 21:15 |
| ali1234 | sudo tcpdump -n -i eth0 dst 239.0.0.1 | 21:16 |
| ali1234 | it seems not all formats can be streamed, probably we need to tell vlc to transcode the input first | 21:17 |
| bemod | i need something that will not take a-lot of cpu to transcode | 21:18 |
| daftykins | that'll be down to the type of video you're taking from your webcam | 21:22 |
| * bigcalm kicks t-mobile | 21:24 | |
| bigcalm | !ping | 21:24 |
| lubotu3 | pong! | 21:24 |
| bigcalm | hooray | 21:24 |
| daftykins | you're aliiiive | 21:24 |
| bigcalm | mgdm: did you get my messages? | 21:24 |
| eoned | ali1234, ? | 21:26 |
| eoned | it's me with the vlc now i'm in Xchat. | 21:26 |
| ali1234 | eoned: transcoding always takes a lot of cpu | 21:27 |
| ali1234 | i suspect what is actually required is resizing the frame | 21:27 |
| eoned | what about raw data? | 21:28 |
| ali1234 | "[mpeg4 @ 0x7f7bcc0c3540] Width/height/bit depth/chroma idc changing with threads is not implemented. Update your Libav version to the newest one from Git. If the problem still occurs, it means that your file has a feature which has not been implemented." | 21:30 |
| mgdm | bigcalm: I did - no worries | 21:31 |
| eoned | ali1234, how i can check it? | 21:31 |
| ali1234 | check what? | 21:34 |
| ali1234 | cvlc v4l2:///dev/video0 --sout '#transcode{vcodec=mp2v}:udp{mux=ts,dst=239.0.0.1,port=1234}' | 21:35 |
| ali1234 | this works, but cannot transcode in real time | 21:35 |
| ali1234 | it's not bad though | 21:36 |
| eoned | it's not have to be real time - but i dont want like groing lag after few minates.. | 21:37 |
| ali1234 | actually it's not using much cpu at all | 21:37 |
| ali1234 | it just has a few seconds of buffering | 21:38 |
| eoned | in mplayer i get nothing and i get this error "Stream not seekable!" | 21:38 |
| ali1234 | well streams aren't | 21:38 |
| ali1234 | by definition | 21:39 |
| ali1234 | this actually works pretty well | 21:39 |
| eoned | but with this command in vlc i i get something!! | 21:40 |
| eoned | vlc -vvv udp://@239.0.0.1:1234 | 21:40 |
| eoned | with about 3-5 sec delay.. | 21:40 |
| eoned | but very pixeleted | 21:41 |
| ali1234 | mplayer will play it eventually too once it receive enough of the stream to fill the buffer | 21:41 |
| ali1234 | you can change transcoding parameters like this: | 21:42 |
| ali1234 | cvlc v4l2:///dev/video0 --sout '#transcode{vcodec=mp1v,vb=800}:udp{mux=ts,dst=239.0.0.1,port=1234}' | 21:42 |
| ali1234 | vb=800 to set video bitrate | 21:42 |
| ali1234 | the latency is on client end, it buffers the stream | 21:43 |
| eoned | now how i can make a 10 sec delay? | 21:44 |
| eoned | so when i save the stream i get 10 sec from the past.. | 21:44 |
| ali1234 | i have no idea how to do that, sorry | 21:46 |
| eoned | mmm | 21:47 |
| eoned | ali1234, but thank you a-loooot! | 21:51 |
| eoned | it's the first time that i have udp stream work on linux!! | 21:51 |
| eoned | thank you - thank you - thank you | 21:52 |
| brobostigon | good night everyone, sleep well. | 22:24 |
| daftykins | nn sir o/ | 22:25 |
| brobostigon | night daftykins | 22:25 |
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