[00:00] <penguin42> the phi is the gpu like thing
[00:01] <daftykins> oh?
[00:02] <penguin42> yeh, it's 60 cores, x86 programmable (ish?) but lives on a PCI-e card
[00:03] <daftykins> ooh
[00:04] <hamitron> so get an AMD APU that lacks cpu horsepower, but provides graphics, then use the pci-e slot saved for real cpu power? ;)
[00:04] <penguin42> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Intel-Xeon-Phi-Coprocessor-CPU,22700.html
[00:05] <daftykins> ah yeah
[00:05] <penguin42> hamitron: There's talk of HPC systems built around ARMs with GPUs wired off them becaus the main CPU doesn't have to do much
[00:06] <daftykins> http://gypsyops.aresgate.net/~vladi/bad_xbmc_ati_r300.jpg
[00:06] <daftykins> guy getting that with XBMC on his r300 card with 'radeon' driver
[00:06] <daftykins> glxgears does it too
[00:06] <daftykins> means he has to run fglrx, no?
[00:07] <penguin42> I'd be surprised if fglrx ran on something that old
[00:07] <daftykins> oh it's old? oops
[00:09] <daftykins> ah yes 9000 series
[00:09] <daftykins> ouchies
[00:17] <hamitron> I personally think everything on 1 chip is best
[00:19] <hamitron> well, the future
[00:23] <hamitron> oops
[00:23] <hamitron> ;/
[00:23] <daftykins> SoC?
[00:23] <hamitron> well, certainly heading that way
[00:24] <daftykins> depends on the task i think
[00:24] <penguin42> not too sure it's the way I want to go - you end up with very little choice
[00:24] <hamitron> lowers the total cost of a unit
[00:24] <hamitron> penguin42, agreed
[00:24] <hamitron> that is why i corrected my "best" statement
[00:24] <hamitron> :/
[00:25] <hamitron> although, windows 8 has really changed the way I work now
[00:25] <hamitron> so maybe change is ok
[00:26] <hamitron> just hoping there is always a viable normal desktop "hobbyist" option
[00:28] <daftykins> hamitron: are you actually getting on with 8? i'd get a start menu prog if i installed it :(
[00:28] <hamitron> I rarely use the desktop on it tbh
[00:29] <hamitron> I had to follow a load of video tutorials more than once, to remember how to do things
[00:30] <hamitron> my main complaint, is you HAVE to go to the desktop for some things
[00:30] <daftykins> oh is this on a tablet?
[00:30] <hamitron> no, laptop with touch screen
[00:30] <daftykins> ah
[00:30] <daftykins> i don't really know how to use it but also i can't see myself using the 'new' start screen at all
[00:30] <daftykins> i don't want to peer at little boxes :(
[00:31] <hamitron> you don't, they are big boxes
[00:31] <hamitron> ;)
[00:31] <daftykins> pfft
[00:31] <hamitron> I wish they'd allow them to be smaller :/
[00:31] <daftykins> i'm probably just at the age where change is becoming scary
[00:31] <daftykins> i dunno
[00:31] <daftykins> 8.1 is allegedly gonna make 'em resizable i think
[00:32] <daftykins> may've misread / imagined
[00:32] <hamitron> well, I am a stick in the mud sort of person
[00:32] <hamitron> ;D
[00:32] <hamitron> and I gotta say, windows 8 doesn't work unless you learn to work differently
[00:32] <hamitron> and probably need a touch screen
[00:33] <hamitron> daftykins, like what they did to windows phone 7?
[00:34] <daftykins> mmm i'd find it weird touching a laptop screen
[00:34] <daftykins> :>
[00:34] <hamitron> it is
[00:34] <hamitron> :)
[00:34] <daftykins> i have no idea about windows phone, i've not used one since v6
[00:34] <hamitron> I have a windows phone too
[00:34] <hamitron> ;)
[00:35] <hamitron> "know the enemy"
[00:35] <daftykins> D:
[00:35] <daftykins> there's that
[00:35] <hamitron> it was cheap too
[00:35] <daftykins> *shrug* i got my nexus 4 for about £290
[00:36] <daftykins> anywho i must head off, crazy o'clock is fast approaching
[00:36] <hamitron> kk
[00:36] <hamitron> mine was £99
[00:36] <hamitron> ;)
[00:36] <daftykins> D:
[00:36] <hamitron> and galaxy nexus was like, £360 at the time
[00:37] <hamitron> I'd be interested to hear from anyone that uses ubuntu on a touch screen though
[00:40] <hamitron> heh, /boot needs to be bigger than 70MB these days :/
[00:43] <penguin42> yeh and Ubuntu doesn't seem to clean up in there that well
[00:44] <hamitron> yeh, time to remove old kernels
[00:44] <hamitron> haha
[00:44] <hamitron> this is what I get for being lazy and not watching what is happening ;)
[00:47] <hamitron> think I'll make it 512MB next time
[09:33] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[10:10] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:11] <brobostigon> morning bigcalm :)
[11:00] <popey> exobuzz: happy birthday!
[11:03] <exobuzz> thanks matey!
[11:04] <exobuzz>  /dcc send cake popey
[14:20] <penguin42> hmm I didn't know about the : command in bash
[14:36] <neuro> oh good, just when i need to look at something on github ...
[14:38] <penguin42> yeh
[14:38] <penguin42> you getting the angry unicorn or the other one?
[15:55] <mgdm> penguin42: what's that do?
[15:56] <penguin42> mgdm: : is the same as true
[15:56] <penguin42> mgdm: I saw a post on lkml where someone used    while :
[15:57] <mgdm> ahh
[15:57] <penguin42> that saves 3 characters!
[15:57] <mgdm> I will probably avoid it because true is more obvious, but good to know :)
[15:58] <penguin42> nod
[18:31] <shauno> wow.  chillies do *not* go in the slow cooker.  I think I've invented a chemical weapon
[18:32] <penguin42> haha
[18:35] <MartijnVdS> shauno: what happened?
[18:36] <MartijnVdS> shauno: we need details if we're to weaponise this
[18:37] <shauno> scotch bonnet & mustard in a thai curry.  so far it's taken me 2 hours and one shower, and I've a third of the plate left
[18:38] <shauno> I'm fairly convinced that if this was airborne, I'd have UN inspectors to dinner
[18:39] <MartijnVdS> shauno: and/or MI5/6
[18:39] <MartijnVdS> shauno: (do you count as foreign or domestic?)
[18:39] <shauno> probably "yes", since I'm in the republic with a british passport
[18:41]  * MartijnVdS installs Ubuntu on a Haswell i7-4770K machine
[18:41] <MartijnVdS> \o/ Sunday openings
[18:42] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: hth did you find somewhere to sell you that already ?
[18:42] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: yeah, they even had a special "overclockers" event with Gigabyte and Corsair
[18:42] <popey> nice
[18:42] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: Can you post an lspci and a cat /proc/cpuinfo ?
[18:42] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: so they had a "€25 off the CPU if you buy a Gigabyte motherboard deal"
[18:42] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: once it's booted, sure
[18:43] <MartijnVdS> it's currently "running post-installation trigger update-notifier-common"
[18:43] <MartijnVdS> has been for a few minutes too!
[18:43] <penguin42> hmm - you doing a saucy or a raring?
[18:43] <MartijnVdS> raringh
[18:43] <penguin42> mind you if it's got that far I'd expect it to survive - but I wouldn't have expected a machine like that for you to have to wait for it
[18:44] <penguin42> how much ram/disk did you get
[18:44] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: 16G, a 120GB SSD and 3TB 7200rpm disk
[18:44] <penguin42> nice
[18:44] <penguin42> make -j :-)
[18:44] <MartijnVdS> 8-)
[18:45] <MartijnVdS> The "Racoon" logo at the end of the Raring install makes me think of http://www.youtube.com/user/thebrainscoop
[18:45] <MartijnVdS> (which has a creepy raccoon in EVERY video)
[18:45] <MartijnVdS> racoon.. raccoon.. aagh!
[18:46] <penguin42> which CPU?
[18:46] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: i7-4770k
[18:46] <penguin42> ah you went with the overclocker version rather than the one with the fun bits
[18:46] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: they had one running at 6.3GHz using liquid N2
[18:47] <penguin42> haha
[18:48] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: Go on, how much did it cost?
[18:49] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: total? €1100ish
[18:50] <penguin42> not too bad
[18:50] <MartijnVdS> including an all-in-one pre-filled water cooling block
[18:52] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: What's it's name?
[18:52] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: Seidon 120
[18:53] <penguin42> why?
[18:53] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: quieter, better cooling performance
[18:53] <penguin42> no, I mean what's the name you are giving to the machine
[18:54] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: "desktop"
[18:54] <penguin42> boring!
[18:54] <MartijnVdS> <-- inspired
[18:54] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: http://martijn.vandestreek.net/~martijn/haswell/
[18:56]  * SuperEngineer calls his "pooter"
[18:58]  * penguin42 looks up your fun new flags :-)
[19:00] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: Nice, dmesg is reasonably clean - couple of moans about bios bugs (not seen a clean one) - there is a [drm:i915_write32] *ERROR* Unknown unclaimed register before writing to c5100  which looks like a fun graphics one
[19:00] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: well it's a new generation, so there are bound to be things like that
[19:01] <penguin42> nod
[19:01] <MartijnVdS> the bios has some weird bugs as well, it sometimes falls back to a text mode-ish mode, from its cool graphicsy thing
[19:01] <penguin42> text mode is good
[19:02] <MartijnVdS> sure, everything works.. but it shouldn't fall back to text mode halfway through
[19:03] <penguin42> yeh
[19:03] <MartijnVdS> heh, it's keeping the CPU at 35°C
[19:03] <MartijnVdS> yay overclocking to 4GHz + ondemand cpufreq stuff (or whatever the default is these days :)
[19:04] <penguin42> nice
[19:10] <MartijnVdS> and now it's time to use that gigabit ;)
[19:15] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: I have the Cooler Master Silencio 550 case
[19:15] <MartijnVdS> and it actually is!
[19:15] <MartijnVdS> (quiet)
[19:16] <penguin42> ah good - hate noisy computers
[19:35] <MartijnVdS> yay Intel
[19:35] <MartijnVdS> [     4.132] (II) intel(0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following RandR disabled message.
[19:35] <MartijnVdS> [     4.132] (--) RandR disabled
[19:37] <Laney> haha
[19:40] <StevenR> MartijnVdS: one free gem, shipped with every kernel :)
[19:44] <MartijnVdS> rsyncing steam first.. let's see if HL2 works :)
[19:49] <daftykins> evening all o/
[19:49] <popey> yo
[19:50] <daftykins> back in from a bit of simple network cabling at a friends
[19:50] <daftykins> poor lads colourblind, so i said i'd help out :D
[19:50] <daftykins> lots of Guernsey houses are made of 2 foot thick granite, so his house now has 3 wireless access points O_O
[19:52] <DJones> daftykins: Is that internal walls as well?
[19:52] <daftykins> yep
[19:53] <DJones> Ouch
[19:53] <daftykins> mostly due to extensions
[19:53] <daftykins> proper old school homes over here
[19:53] <daftykins> mines a 17th century cottage with granite
[19:53] <daftykins> wooden floors though so i can go up through perfectly :D
[19:53] <MartijnVdS> wow.. new google maps (Webgl) is *fluid* on Haswell
[19:54] <MartijnVdS> where it stutters a lot on .. first-gen core i3
[19:54] <daftykins> you bought one already or are reading up? :D
[19:54] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: I have it already
[19:54] <daftykins> :O
[19:54] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: installing it now :)
[19:54] <daftykins> how'd you get it so soon?
[19:54] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: Special Sunday opening of the computer store :)
[19:54] <daftykins> i don't even think most UK retailers i know have it listed
[19:54] <daftykins> haha
[19:54] <daftykins> amazing dedication, sir
[19:55] <popey> how much did the cpu/board combo come to?
[19:55] <popey> did you have to get RAM too?
[19:55] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: I went to see the overclocking contest (with a chance of *winning* haswell + a mainboard)
[19:55] <MartijnVdS> but I didn't win
[19:55] <MartijnVdS> popey: CPU + board + RAM = €660
[19:55] <MartijnVdS> popey: I got some cool 2133MHz RAM sticks from Kingston
[19:55] <popey> have you run HRB on it?
[19:55] <MartijnVdS> HRB?
[19:55] <daftykins> crikey
[19:55] <DJones> daftykins: My parents house was originally built be a builder as his own house, so he used the best materials he could get, as a result all the bricks he used are firebricks, when we moved in, people fitting central heating burned out 4 drills and countless tungsten tipped drills
[19:55] <popey> http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/wiki/HugoRandomBenchmark
[19:56] <popey> time perl -e 'for($i=0;$i<1e8;$i++) { }'
[19:56] <popey> run that ☻
[19:56] <daftykins> DJones: wowzer! don't want to try any mods anytime soon then? :D
[19:57] <daftykins> i've an i7 3770K ivy bridge in front of me i could compare to running that? XD
[19:57] <MartijnVdS> popey: real	0m2.809s
[19:57] <MartijnVdS> user	0m2.804s
[19:57] <MartijnVdS> sys	0m0.000s
[19:57] <MartijnVdS> i7-4770k @ 4GHz \o/
[19:57] <popey> yay, you win
[19:58] <MartijnVdS> for now
[19:58] <daftykins> MartijnVdS: didn't fancy 2.4-2.9GHz DDR3? :)
[19:58] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: That's even more expensive! :)
[19:58] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: this is fast enough for now
[19:58] <daftykins> ^_^
[19:59] <daftykins> yeah i got Adata 2 x 8GB 2133MHz stuff for this friends build, that was £108
[20:00] <daftykins> gotta love the simplicity of the stuff with the XMP SPD profiles
[20:00] <daftykins> enter BIOS, enable XMP, save and exit - done \o/
[20:00] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: I have Kingstons
[20:00] <MartijnVdS> except.. Y U NO DEFAULT
[20:01] <daftykins> because it's technically out of spec for some hardware :>
[20:01] <daftykins> but yeah i get you
[20:01] <MartijnVdS> then don't sell it in a "2133MHz" kit
[20:01] <daftykins> companies have always sold speeds outside of JEDEC regulation though
[20:02] <daftykins> MartijnVdS: are you going to enjoy seeing what graphical quirks it has then?
[20:02] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: graphical quirks? :)
[20:02]  * MartijnVdS hasn't seen any yet
[20:02] <MartijnVdS> left4dead2 takes some time to sync, even on gbit
[20:02] <MartijnVdS> rsync*
[20:03] <daftykins> is that the most recent thing you have?
[20:03] <MartijnVdS> yeah
[20:04] <MartijnVdS> well, I think so
[20:04] <daftykins> time to make myself a latte i think
[20:04] <daftykins> and possibly choose a film
[20:09] <mungbean> was watching football then my pvr change channels because my wife is recording two other programmes :(
[20:10] <daftykins> football is bad mmkay! ;)
[20:10] <daftykins> mungbean: time for a triple feed card ;)
[20:11] <ali1234> is there a way to redeem steam keys without installing the games?
[20:11] <MartijnVdS> maybe on the website?
[20:11] <daftykins> ^that'd be my thought
[20:12] <MartijnVdS> or from the wrong architecture (code for a Windows-only game on Linux, for example)
[20:12] <MartijnVdS> also.. you can say "Install now" then start deleting it immediately I think
[20:12] <daftykins> when i redeemed a code the other day it just added the game to the list though, it didn't download it unless asked
[20:12] <MartijnVdS> or cancel the install
[20:12] <daftykins> this was the Windows steam client though
[20:14] <ali1234> "delete local content"?
[20:14] <MartijnVdS> yes
[20:14] <ali1234> when i add the keys there is no option to not install the game
[20:14] <ali1234> unless the key has multiple games
[20:14] <ali1234> but then you have to install at least one of them or you can't click on "next"
[20:14] <daftykins> :(
[20:14] <ali1234> there is no option to add keys on the website
[20:15] <daftykins> might be in via profile?
[20:15] <daftykins> tbh even on Windows the client is an absolute joke
[20:16] <daftykins> on the highest end hardware it just sits and has the whole UI freeze ;/
[20:16] <popey> I've not had that on linux windows or osx
[20:16] <popey> well, it pauses for a while
[20:16] <daftykins> sometimes it lies claiming there's no internet connection too
[20:16] <daftykins> that's an odd one
[20:17] <popey> yeah, i had that
[20:17] <mungbean> tvcatchup.com , what a fail
[20:17] <daftykins> not even a windows restart fixed that XD
[20:17] <daftykins> mungbean: their service is? my friends friend runs it
[20:17] <ali1234> the client freeze is caused by html5
[20:17] <ali1234> you have to manually copy flash plugin into the steam plugins folder
[20:17] <ali1234> and it has to be the 32bit one
[20:18] <mungbean> daftykins: doesn't work for me
[20:18] <mungbean> requesting itv, then flash dies
[20:18] <daftykins> oh well - flash... :D
[20:18] <mungbean> wfm on other sites
[20:19] <popey> i use tvcatchup quite a bit
[20:19] <popey> seems to bork out now and then
[20:19] <mungbean> ok works on firefox, not chrome
[20:19] <mungbean> well the adverts are.
[20:19] <daftykins> they have some serious hardware behind the scenes :D
[20:19] <popey> works fine here in chromium
[20:19] <brobostigon> the android app seems to work quite well.
[20:19] <daftykins> in their data center they have some crazy fibre feed from the sat dish inside to split it off the many ways
[20:19] <popey> bit stuttery
[20:20] <ali1234> adding all these keys is going to take forever
[20:20] <popey> oh balls
[20:20] <brobostigon> lol
[20:20] <brobostigon> :(
[20:20] <popey> my Ouya is arriving in the next couple of days
[20:20] <popey> and I'm away
[20:20] <brobostigon> :(
[20:21] <daftykins> they're tegra 3 aren't they?
[20:21] <MartijnVdS> popey: so the kids get to play with it before you? ;)
[20:21] <daftykins> is it final now or still development kit level?
[20:23] <popey> its going in the stores this month, so final
[20:24] <ali1234> hmm a lot of these games don't have linux versions on steam
[20:24] <popey> you adding keys for HiB8?
[20:25] <ali1234> i'm adding keys for every bundle since 5
[20:25] <ali1234> 10 bundles in total
[20:25] <popey> ahh
[20:25] <ali1234> each one has between 3 and 10 keys
[20:26] <ali1234> so far out of about 30 games only 14 have linux versions
[20:26] <popey> yeah, its a shame you can't bundle them together and add them all
[20:26] <ali1234> oh fun another bundle with separate keys for each game
[20:27] <mungbean> i stopped buying HB when i realised i was just collecting games to not play them
[20:28] <ali1234> yeah
[20:28] <ali1234> well, there's usually 1 or 2 good games in each bundle
[20:29] <popey> i like having them for opportunistic play
[20:29] <daftykins> mungbean: so true :D
[20:30] <mungbean> last one i played was SMB or limbo for 1/2 hour
[20:30] <shauno> it'd be really neat if you could 'claim' your HB account in steam
[20:30] <mungbean> about a year ago
[20:30] <daftykins> the Ouya kinda concerned me, because i don't hugely see a market for what they've done
[20:30] <ali1234> popey: you know, redeeming these games on USC isn't any better...
[20:30] <popey> its worse on usc
[20:30] <popey> way more clicks
[20:31] <ali1234> it's fewer actually
[20:31] <MartijnVdS> HL2 WORKS
[20:31] <mungbean> \o/
[20:31]  * MartijnVdS does a little dance
[20:31] <mungbean> i have the DVD of that somewhere
[20:31] <ali1234> with steam you have to: copy key, click "add game", paste key, click next 3 times, wait 20 seconds, click next, click cancel
[20:32] <ali1234> with USC you just click the button for each game
[20:32] <ali1234> it takes just as long though
[20:33] <mungbean> stutterrr..buffer...
[20:33] <mungbean> maybe its my bb line
[20:34] <bigcalm> Good evening peeps :)
[20:34] <mgdm> 'lo
[20:35] <daftykins> \o
[20:36] <popey> pip pip bigcalm
[20:37] <daftykins> ali1234: sometimes i wonder if performing the task itself might not be quicker than your discussion of it ;)
[20:38] <daftykins> MartijnVdS: any plans for your old setup?
[20:38] <ali1234> after you add each key steam takes 30 seconds to activate it which is plenty of time to write something here
[20:38] <ali1234> it's a modal dialog of course
[20:40] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: no idea yet
[20:40] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: I can probably find an interested family member
[20:40] <MartijnVdS> \o/ big family ;)
[20:41] <daftykins> =]
[20:41] <MartijnVdS> OK.. rsyncing music & photos. Time for sleep! :)
[20:42] <bemod> hii
[20:42] <bemod> i need help
[20:42] <bigcalm> !ping
[20:42] <bigcalm> !ding
[20:43] <bigcalm> Bloomin 3g
[20:43] <popey> bemod: ask away
[20:43] <bemod> pl
[20:43] <bemod> ok*
[20:44] <bemod> how i can stream udp in my ubuntu
[20:44] <bemod> ?
[20:44] <bemod> popey: ^
[20:44] <popey> streaming audio/video from a server?
[20:44] <bemod> webcam
[20:44] <popey> oh, stream your webcam to the internet?
[20:45] <bemod> stream and recive it
[20:45] <bemod> no
[20:45] <popey> I don't understand what you want to do
[20:45] <ali1234> vlc can do it
[20:45] <ali1234> he wants to stream webcam on UDP
[20:45] <bemod> it's not work at all
[20:45] <ali1234> yeah it's tricky
[20:45] <ali1234> you have to make sure you have multicast addresses configured properly
[20:46] <bemod> 127.0.0.1 it's ok?
[20:46] <bemod> 244.0.0.1?
[20:46] <bemod> not work at all.
[20:46] <daftykins> blind leading the blind
[20:47] <bemod> daftykins: what do you mean?
[20:47] <daftykins> nothing don't worry :)
[20:48] <bemod> ali1234: you can guide me?
[20:48] <ali1234> sure i'm just reading up on it. it's been a while since i did it
[20:49] <ali1234> 224 is the multicast address, not 244
[20:50] <ali1234> i would recommend that you first test it using a video file rather than the webcam to isolate any problems with hardware
[20:51] <ali1234> ah you need to use 239 as that's the private address range
[20:52] <bemod> 239.0.0.1 is ok?
[20:52] <ali1234> yes
[20:52] <ali1234> on the server you do this: vlc -vvv file.avi –sout udp:239.0.0.1 –ttl 12 –loop
[20:53] <ali1234> on the client you do this: vlc -vvv udp:@239.0.0.1
[20:53] <ali1234> the client should then show the file.avi
[20:53] <ali1234> when you have that working you can adjust the server to play from webcam instead of a file
[20:53] <ali1234> if it doesn't work, check what packets are sent and received with tcpdump
[20:55] <bemod> how i do it?
[20:55] <ali1234> how do you do what?
[20:59] <bemod> webcam > vlc transmit > vlc recive,
[21:01] <ali1234> ah it should be this to receive: vlc -vvv udp://@239.0.0.1
[21:01] <bemod> and how i can transmit?
[21:02] <bemod> the recevie is the easy part...
[21:02] <ali1234> vlc -vvv file.avi –sout udp:239.0.0.1 –ttl 12 –loop
[21:02] <ali1234> or for webcam: vlc -vvv v4l2:///dev/video0 –sout udp:239.0.0.1 –ttl 12 –loop
[21:03] <bemod> ali1234: i try now
[21:04] <bemod> in the trnsmit command - i see video on the screen
[21:05] <ali1234> hang on
[21:05] <bemod> in the receive command - noting happend
[21:05] <ali1234> it's because yu copy pasted that command
[21:05] <ali1234> and i copy pasted it from a website
[21:05] <ali1234> and the website replaced -- with emdash
[21:05] <ali1234> vlc -vvv v4l2:///dev/video0 --sout udp:239.0.0.1 --ttl 12 --loop
[21:06] <ali1234> try that instead
[21:06] <ali1234> i know it looks the same but it isn't
[21:07] <bemod> ali1234: now boat of tham not works.
[21:08] <ali1234> well, it works for me
[21:09] <ali1234> try dropping the loop param, i guess it makes no sense for webcam
[21:09] <bemod> what you use to transmmit?
[21:12] <bemod> i try to receive the stream with mplayer and i get this
[21:12] <bemod> No stream found to handle url udp://@239.0.0.1:1234
[21:14] <ali1234> probably it isn't transmitting
[21:14] <ali1234> check with tcpdump if you are receiving any packets
[21:15] <bemod> how i use it?
[21:16] <ali1234> sudo tcpdump -n -i eth0 dst 239.0.0.1
[21:17] <ali1234> it seems not all formats can be streamed, probably we need to tell vlc to transcode the input first
[21:18] <bemod> i need something that will not take a-lot of cpu to transcode
[21:22] <daftykins> that'll be down to the type of video you're taking from your webcam
[21:24]  * bigcalm kicks t-mobile
[21:24] <bigcalm> !ping
[21:24] <bigcalm> hooray
[21:24] <daftykins> you're aliiiive
[21:24] <bigcalm> mgdm: did you get my messages?
[21:26] <eoned> ali1234, ?
[21:26] <eoned> it's me with the vlc now i'm in Xchat.
[21:27] <ali1234> eoned: transcoding always takes a lot of cpu
[21:27] <ali1234> i suspect what is actually required is resizing the frame
[21:28] <eoned> what about raw data?
[21:30] <ali1234> "[mpeg4 @ 0x7f7bcc0c3540] Width/height/bit depth/chroma idc changing with threads is not implemented. Update your Libav version to the newest one from Git. If the problem still occurs, it means that your file has a feature which has not been implemented."
[21:31] <mgdm> bigcalm: I did - no worries
[21:31] <eoned> ali1234, how i can check it?
[21:34] <ali1234> check what?
[21:35] <ali1234> cvlc v4l2:///dev/video0 --sout '#transcode{vcodec=mp2v}:udp{mux=ts,dst=239.0.0.1,port=1234}'
[21:35] <ali1234> this works, but cannot transcode in real time
[21:36] <ali1234> it's not bad though
[21:37] <eoned> it's not have to be real time - but i dont want like groing lag after few minates..
[21:37] <ali1234> actually it's not using much cpu at all
[21:38] <ali1234> it just has a few seconds of buffering
[21:38] <eoned> in mplayer i get nothing and i get this error "Stream not seekable!"
[21:38] <ali1234> well streams aren't
[21:39] <ali1234> by definition
[21:39] <ali1234> this actually works pretty well
[21:40] <eoned> but with this command in vlc i i get something!!
[21:40] <eoned> vlc -vvv udp://@239.0.0.1:1234
[21:40] <eoned> with about 3-5 sec delay..
[21:41] <eoned> but very pixeleted
[21:41] <ali1234> mplayer will play it eventually too once it receive enough of the stream to fill the buffer
[21:42] <ali1234> you can change transcoding parameters like this:
[21:42] <ali1234> cvlc v4l2:///dev/video0 --sout '#transcode{vcodec=mp1v,vb=800}:udp{mux=ts,dst=239.0.0.1,port=1234}'
[21:42] <ali1234> vb=800 to set video bitrate
[21:43] <ali1234> the latency is on client end, it buffers the stream
[21:44] <eoned> now how i can make a 10 sec delay?
[21:44] <eoned> so when i save the stream i get 10 sec from the past..
[21:46] <ali1234> i have no idea how to do that, sorry
[21:47] <eoned> mmm
[21:51] <eoned> ali1234, but thank you a-loooot!
[21:51] <eoned> it's the first time that i have udp stream work on linux!!
[21:52] <eoned> thank you  -  thank you  -  thank you
[22:24] <brobostigon> good night everyone, sleep well.
[22:25] <daftykins> nn sir o/
[22:25] <brobostigon> night daftykins