[00:00] the phi is the gpu like thing [00:01] oh? [00:02] yeh, it's 60 cores, x86 programmable (ish?) but lives on a PCI-e card [00:03] ooh [00:04] so get an AMD APU that lacks cpu horsepower, but provides graphics, then use the pci-e slot saved for real cpu power? ;) [00:04] http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Intel-Xeon-Phi-Coprocessor-CPU,22700.html [00:05] ah yeah [00:05] hamitron: There's talk of HPC systems built around ARMs with GPUs wired off them becaus the main CPU doesn't have to do much [00:06] http://gypsyops.aresgate.net/~vladi/bad_xbmc_ati_r300.jpg [00:06] guy getting that with XBMC on his r300 card with 'radeon' driver [00:06] glxgears does it too [00:06] means he has to run fglrx, no? [00:07] I'd be surprised if fglrx ran on something that old [00:07] oh it's old? oops [00:09] ah yes 9000 series [00:09] ouchies [00:17] I personally think everything on 1 chip is best [00:19] well, the future [00:23] oops [00:23] ;/ [00:23] SoC? [00:23] well, certainly heading that way [00:24] depends on the task i think [00:24] not too sure it's the way I want to go - you end up with very little choice [00:24] lowers the total cost of a unit [00:24] penguin42, agreed [00:24] that is why i corrected my "best" statement [00:24] :/ [00:25] although, windows 8 has really changed the way I work now [00:25] so maybe change is ok [00:26] just hoping there is always a viable normal desktop "hobbyist" option [00:28] hamitron: are you actually getting on with 8? i'd get a start menu prog if i installed it :( [00:28] I rarely use the desktop on it tbh [00:29] I had to follow a load of video tutorials more than once, to remember how to do things [00:30] my main complaint, is you HAVE to go to the desktop for some things [00:30] oh is this on a tablet? [00:30] no, laptop with touch screen [00:30] ah [00:30] i don't really know how to use it but also i can't see myself using the 'new' start screen at all [00:30] i don't want to peer at little boxes :( [00:31] you don't, they are big boxes [00:31] ;) [00:31] pfft [00:31] I wish they'd allow them to be smaller :/ [00:31] i'm probably just at the age where change is becoming scary [00:31] i dunno [00:31] 8.1 is allegedly gonna make 'em resizable i think [00:32] may've misread / imagined [00:32] well, I am a stick in the mud sort of person [00:32] ;D [00:32] and I gotta say, windows 8 doesn't work unless you learn to work differently [00:32] and probably need a touch screen [00:33] daftykins, like what they did to windows phone 7? [00:34] mmm i'd find it weird touching a laptop screen [00:34] :> [00:34] it is [00:34] :) [00:34] i have no idea about windows phone, i've not used one since v6 [00:34] I have a windows phone too [00:34] ;) [00:35] "know the enemy" [00:35] D: [00:35] there's that [00:35] it was cheap too [00:35] *shrug* i got my nexus 4 for about £290 [00:36] anywho i must head off, crazy o'clock is fast approaching [00:36] kk [00:36] mine was £99 [00:36] ;) [00:36] D: [00:36] and galaxy nexus was like, £360 at the time [00:37] I'd be interested to hear from anyone that uses ubuntu on a touch screen though [00:40] heh, /boot needs to be bigger than 70MB these days :/ [00:43] yeh and Ubuntu doesn't seem to clean up in there that well [00:44] yeh, time to remove old kernels [00:44] haha [00:44] this is what I get for being lazy and not watching what is happening ;) [00:47] think I'll make it 512MB next time [09:33] good morning everyone, [10:10] Good morning peeps :) [10:11] morning bigcalm :) [11:00] exobuzz: happy birthday! [11:03] thanks matey! [11:04] /dcc send cake popey === AlanChicken is now known as AlanBell [14:20] hmm I didn't know about the : command in bash [14:36] oh good, just when i need to look at something on github ... [14:38] yeh [14:38] you getting the angry unicorn or the other one? [15:55] penguin42: what's that do? [15:56] mgdm: : is the same as true [15:56] mgdm: I saw a post on lkml where someone used while : [15:57] ahh [15:57] that saves 3 characters! [15:57] I will probably avoid it because true is more obvious, but good to know :) [15:58] nod === graingert is now known as Guest63291 [18:31] wow. chillies do *not* go in the slow cooker. I think I've invented a chemical weapon [18:32] haha [18:35] shauno: what happened? [18:36] shauno: we need details if we're to weaponise this [18:37] scotch bonnet & mustard in a thai curry. so far it's taken me 2 hours and one shower, and I've a third of the plate left === dogmatic69__ is now known as dogmatic69 [18:38] I'm fairly convinced that if this was airborne, I'd have UN inspectors to dinner [18:39] shauno: and/or MI5/6 [18:39] shauno: (do you count as foreign or domestic?) [18:39] probably "yes", since I'm in the republic with a british passport [18:41] * MartijnVdS installs Ubuntu on a Haswell i7-4770K machine [18:41] \o/ Sunday openings [18:42] MartijnVdS: hth did you find somewhere to sell you that already ? [18:42] penguin42: yeah, they even had a special "overclockers" event with Gigabyte and Corsair [18:42] nice [18:42] MartijnVdS: Can you post an lspci and a cat /proc/cpuinfo ? [18:42] penguin42: so they had a "€25 off the CPU if you buy a Gigabyte motherboard deal" [18:42] penguin42: once it's booted, sure [18:43] it's currently "running post-installation trigger update-notifier-common" [18:43] has been for a few minutes too! [18:43] hmm - you doing a saucy or a raring? [18:43] raringh [18:43] mind you if it's got that far I'd expect it to survive - but I wouldn't have expected a machine like that for you to have to wait for it [18:44] how much ram/disk did you get [18:44] penguin42: 16G, a 120GB SSD and 3TB 7200rpm disk [18:44] nice [18:44] make -j :-) [18:44] 8-) [18:45] The "Racoon" logo at the end of the Raring install makes me think of http://www.youtube.com/user/thebrainscoop [18:45] (which has a creepy raccoon in EVERY video) [18:45] racoon.. raccoon.. aagh! [18:46] which CPU? [18:46] penguin42: i7-4770k [18:46] ah you went with the overclocker version rather than the one with the fun bits [18:46] penguin42: they had one running at 6.3GHz using liquid N2 [18:47] haha [18:48] MartijnVdS: Go on, how much did it cost? [18:49] penguin42: total? €1100ish [18:50] not too bad [18:50] including an all-in-one pre-filled water cooling block [18:52] MartijnVdS: What's it's name? [18:52] penguin42: Seidon 120 [18:53] why? [18:53] penguin42: quieter, better cooling performance [18:53] no, I mean what's the name you are giving to the machine [18:54] penguin42: "desktop" [18:54] boring! [18:54] <-- inspired [18:54] penguin42: http://martijn.vandestreek.net/~martijn/haswell/ [18:56] * SuperEngineer calls his "pooter" [18:58] * penguin42 looks up your fun new flags :-) [19:00] MartijnVdS: Nice, dmesg is reasonably clean - couple of moans about bios bugs (not seen a clean one) - there is a [drm:i915_write32] *ERROR* Unknown unclaimed register before writing to c5100 which looks like a fun graphics one [19:00] penguin42: well it's a new generation, so there are bound to be things like that [19:01] nod [19:01] the bios has some weird bugs as well, it sometimes falls back to a text mode-ish mode, from its cool graphicsy thing [19:01] text mode is good [19:02] sure, everything works.. but it shouldn't fall back to text mode halfway through [19:03] yeh [19:03] heh, it's keeping the CPU at 35°C [19:03] yay overclocking to 4GHz + ondemand cpufreq stuff (or whatever the default is these days :) [19:04] nice [19:10] and now it's time to use that gigabit ;) [19:15] penguin42: I have the Cooler Master Silencio 550 case [19:15] and it actually is! [19:15] (quiet) [19:16] ah good - hate noisy computers [19:35] yay Intel [19:35] [ 4.132] (II) intel(0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following RandR disabled message. [19:35] [ 4.132] (--) RandR disabled [19:37] haha [19:40] MartijnVdS: one free gem, shipped with every kernel :) [19:44] rsyncing steam first.. let's see if HL2 works :) [19:49] evening all o/ [19:49] yo [19:50] back in from a bit of simple network cabling at a friends [19:50] poor lads colourblind, so i said i'd help out :D [19:50] lots of Guernsey houses are made of 2 foot thick granite, so his house now has 3 wireless access points O_O [19:52] daftykins: Is that internal walls as well? [19:52] yep [19:53] Ouch [19:53] mostly due to extensions [19:53] proper old school homes over here [19:53] mines a 17th century cottage with granite [19:53] wooden floors though so i can go up through perfectly :D [19:53] wow.. new google maps (Webgl) is *fluid* on Haswell [19:54] where it stutters a lot on .. first-gen core i3 [19:54] you bought one already or are reading up? :D [19:54] daftykins: I have it already [19:54] :O [19:54] daftykins: installing it now :) [19:54] how'd you get it so soon? [19:54] daftykins: Special Sunday opening of the computer store :) [19:54] i don't even think most UK retailers i know have it listed [19:54] haha [19:54] amazing dedication, sir [19:55] how much did the cpu/board combo come to? [19:55] did you have to get RAM too? [19:55] daftykins: I went to see the overclocking contest (with a chance of *winning* haswell + a mainboard) [19:55] but I didn't win [19:55] popey: CPU + board + RAM = €660 [19:55] popey: I got some cool 2133MHz RAM sticks from Kingston [19:55] have you run HRB on it? [19:55] HRB? [19:55] crikey [19:55] daftykins: My parents house was originally built be a builder as his own house, so he used the best materials he could get, as a result all the bricks he used are firebricks, when we moved in, people fitting central heating burned out 4 drills and countless tungsten tipped drills [19:55] http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/wiki/HugoRandomBenchmark [19:56] time perl -e 'for($i=0;$i<1e8;$i++) { }' [19:56] run that ☻ [19:56] DJones: wowzer! don't want to try any mods anytime soon then? :D [19:57] i've an i7 3770K ivy bridge in front of me i could compare to running that? XD [19:57] popey: real 0m2.809s [19:57] user 0m2.804s [19:57] sys 0m0.000s [19:57] i7-4770k @ 4GHz \o/ [19:57] yay, you win [19:58] for now [19:58] MartijnVdS: didn't fancy 2.4-2.9GHz DDR3? :) [19:58] daftykins: That's even more expensive! :) [19:58] daftykins: this is fast enough for now [19:58] ^_^ [19:59] yeah i got Adata 2 x 8GB 2133MHz stuff for this friends build, that was £108 [20:00] gotta love the simplicity of the stuff with the XMP SPD profiles [20:00] enter BIOS, enable XMP, save and exit - done \o/ [20:00] daftykins: I have Kingstons [20:00] except.. Y U NO DEFAULT [20:01] because it's technically out of spec for some hardware :> [20:01] but yeah i get you [20:01] then don't sell it in a "2133MHz" kit [20:01] companies have always sold speeds outside of JEDEC regulation though [20:02] MartijnVdS: are you going to enjoy seeing what graphical quirks it has then? [20:02] daftykins: graphical quirks? :) [20:02] * MartijnVdS hasn't seen any yet [20:02] left4dead2 takes some time to sync, even on gbit [20:02] rsync* [20:03] is that the most recent thing you have? [20:03] yeah [20:04] well, I think so [20:04] time to make myself a latte i think [20:04] and possibly choose a film [20:09] was watching football then my pvr change channels because my wife is recording two other programmes :( [20:10] football is bad mmkay! ;) [20:10] mungbean: time for a triple feed card ;) [20:11] is there a way to redeem steam keys without installing the games? [20:11] maybe on the website? [20:11] ^that'd be my thought [20:12] or from the wrong architecture (code for a Windows-only game on Linux, for example) [20:12] also.. you can say "Install now" then start deleting it immediately I think [20:12] when i redeemed a code the other day it just added the game to the list though, it didn't download it unless asked [20:12] or cancel the install [20:12] this was the Windows steam client though [20:14] "delete local content"? [20:14] yes [20:14] when i add the keys there is no option to not install the game [20:14] unless the key has multiple games [20:14] but then you have to install at least one of them or you can't click on "next" [20:14] :( [20:14] there is no option to add keys on the website [20:15] might be in via profile? [20:15] tbh even on Windows the client is an absolute joke [20:16] on the highest end hardware it just sits and has the whole UI freeze ;/ [20:16] I've not had that on linux windows or osx [20:16] well, it pauses for a while [20:16] sometimes it lies claiming there's no internet connection too [20:16] that's an odd one [20:17] yeah, i had that [20:17] tvcatchup.com , what a fail [20:17] not even a windows restart fixed that XD [20:17] mungbean: their service is? my friends friend runs it [20:17] the client freeze is caused by html5 [20:17] you have to manually copy flash plugin into the steam plugins folder [20:17] and it has to be the 32bit one [20:18] daftykins: doesn't work for me [20:18] requesting itv, then flash dies [20:18] oh well - flash... :D [20:18] wfm on other sites [20:19] i use tvcatchup quite a bit [20:19] seems to bork out now and then [20:19] ok works on firefox, not chrome [20:19] well the adverts are. [20:19] they have some serious hardware behind the scenes :D [20:19] works fine here in chromium [20:19] the android app seems to work quite well. [20:19] in their data center they have some crazy fibre feed from the sat dish inside to split it off the many ways [20:19] bit stuttery [20:20] adding all these keys is going to take forever [20:20] oh balls [20:20] lol [20:20] :( [20:20] my Ouya is arriving in the next couple of days [20:20] and I'm away [20:20] :( [20:21] they're tegra 3 aren't they? [20:21] popey: so the kids get to play with it before you? ;) [20:21] is it final now or still development kit level? [20:23] its going in the stores this month, so final [20:24] hmm a lot of these games don't have linux versions on steam [20:24] you adding keys for HiB8? [20:25] i'm adding keys for every bundle since 5 [20:25] 10 bundles in total [20:25] ahh [20:25] each one has between 3 and 10 keys [20:26] so far out of about 30 games only 14 have linux versions [20:26] yeah, its a shame you can't bundle them together and add them all [20:26] oh fun another bundle with separate keys for each game [20:27] i stopped buying HB when i realised i was just collecting games to not play them [20:28] yeah [20:28] well, there's usually 1 or 2 good games in each bundle [20:29] i like having them for opportunistic play [20:29] mungbean: so true :D [20:30] last one i played was SMB or limbo for 1/2 hour [20:30] it'd be really neat if you could 'claim' your HB account in steam [20:30] about a year ago [20:30] the Ouya kinda concerned me, because i don't hugely see a market for what they've done [20:30] popey: you know, redeeming these games on USC isn't any better... [20:30] its worse on usc [20:30] way more clicks [20:31] it's fewer actually [20:31] HL2 WORKS [20:31] \o/ [20:31] * MartijnVdS does a little dance [20:31] i have the DVD of that somewhere [20:31] with steam you have to: copy key, click "add game", paste key, click next 3 times, wait 20 seconds, click next, click cancel [20:32] with USC you just click the button for each game [20:32] it takes just as long though [20:33] stutterrr..buffer... [20:33] maybe its my bb line [20:34] Good evening peeps :) [20:34] 'lo [20:35] \o [20:36] pip pip bigcalm [20:37] ali1234: sometimes i wonder if performing the task itself might not be quicker than your discussion of it ;) [20:38] MartijnVdS: any plans for your old setup? [20:38] after you add each key steam takes 30 seconds to activate it which is plenty of time to write something here [20:38] it's a modal dialog of course [20:40] daftykins: no idea yet [20:40] daftykins: I can probably find an interested family member [20:40] \o/ big family ;) [20:41] =] [20:41] OK.. rsyncing music & photos. Time for sleep! :) [20:42] hii [20:42] i need help [20:42] !ping [20:42] pong! [20:42] !ding [20:42] dong [20:43] Bloomin 3g [20:43] bemod: ask away [20:43] pl [20:43] ok* [20:44] how i can stream udp in my ubuntu [20:44] ? [20:44] popey: ^ [20:44] streaming audio/video from a server? [20:44] webcam [20:44] oh, stream your webcam to the internet? [20:45] stream and recive it [20:45] no [20:45] I don't understand what you want to do [20:45] vlc can do it [20:45] he wants to stream webcam on UDP [20:45] it's not work at all [20:45] yeah it's tricky [20:45] you have to make sure you have multicast addresses configured properly [20:46] 127.0.0.1 it's ok? [20:46] 244.0.0.1? [20:46] not work at all. [20:46] blind leading the blind [20:47] daftykins: what do you mean? [20:47] nothing don't worry :) [20:48] ali1234: you can guide me? [20:48] sure i'm just reading up on it. it's been a while since i did it [20:49] 224 is the multicast address, not 244 [20:50] i would recommend that you first test it using a video file rather than the webcam to isolate any problems with hardware [20:51] ah you need to use 239 as that's the private address range [20:52] 239.0.0.1 is ok? [20:52] yes [20:52] on the server you do this: vlc -vvv file.avi –sout udp:239.0.0.1 –ttl 12 –loop [20:53] on the client you do this: vlc -vvv udp:@239.0.0.1 [20:53] the client should then show the file.avi [20:53] when you have that working you can adjust the server to play from webcam instead of a file [20:53] if it doesn't work, check what packets are sent and received with tcpdump [20:55] how i do it? [20:55] how do you do what? [20:59] webcam > vlc transmit > vlc recive, [21:01] ah it should be this to receive: vlc -vvv udp://@239.0.0.1 [21:01] and how i can transmit? [21:02] the recevie is the easy part... [21:02] vlc -vvv file.avi –sout udp:239.0.0.1 –ttl 12 –loop [21:02] or for webcam: vlc -vvv v4l2:///dev/video0 –sout udp:239.0.0.1 –ttl 12 –loop [21:03] ali1234: i try now [21:04] in the trnsmit command - i see video on the screen [21:05] hang on [21:05] in the receive command - noting happend [21:05] it's because yu copy pasted that command [21:05] and i copy pasted it from a website [21:05] and the website replaced -- with emdash [21:05] vlc -vvv v4l2:///dev/video0 --sout udp:239.0.0.1 --ttl 12 --loop [21:06] try that instead [21:06] i know it looks the same but it isn't [21:07] ali1234: now boat of tham not works. [21:08] well, it works for me [21:09] try dropping the loop param, i guess it makes no sense for webcam [21:09] what you use to transmmit? [21:12] i try to receive the stream with mplayer and i get this [21:12] No stream found to handle url udp://@239.0.0.1:1234 [21:14] probably it isn't transmitting [21:14] check with tcpdump if you are receiving any packets [21:15] how i use it? [21:16] sudo tcpdump -n -i eth0 dst 239.0.0.1 [21:17] it seems not all formats can be streamed, probably we need to tell vlc to transcode the input first [21:18] i need something that will not take a-lot of cpu to transcode [21:22]