[01:48] <amagee> Hey i've recently upgraded to ubuntu 13.04 using xubuntu-desktop and now whenever I log in to an xfce or xubuntu session, I get spontaneously logged out within about 30 seconds or a few clicks. Any ideas how to debug and fix this? I'm having to resort to using unity!
[03:43] <_Dirk_> ubuntu webiste suggested that if i have 1gig of ram or less to set the permiters of separate partition for virtual memory, called the swap from 60 to 10....  my comp was a little sluggish before (video wouldskip and lag) so i did change the perimiters as suggested and my machine was almost at a standstill (barely able to open the terminal to change the settings back).....   when i changed them i just for shits changed it to 80 and 
[03:44] <bazhang> no cursing _Dirk_
[03:44] <_Dirk_> i rebooted and changed the perimeters to 95, rebooted and video doesn't lag at all... my machine runs more efficently doing the opposite of what ubuntu suggested... does anyone know why?
[03:45] <xubuntu444> i am new to the xubuntu system im trying to get my netflix to work on my comp and it wont run
[03:45] <bazhang> http://www.compholio.com/netflix-desktop/   xubuntu444
[03:54] <_Dirk_> nobody?
[03:54] <bazhang> patience _Dirk_
[03:55] <_Dirk_> sorry i'm used to the ubuntu room where i guess more people hang out or, something
[03:55] <_Dirk_> i'm not finding my answer on google
[03:56] <bullgard4> _Dirk_: I do not know what "permiters" are.
[03:57] <_Dirk_> parameters... spelling
[03:59] <bullgard4> _Dirk_: Still I do not understand your problem fully. Try to tell precisely what Ubuntu suggested and how you measured sluggishness.
[04:02] <xubuntu444> google suck when you are looking up something for ubuntu
[04:02] <bullgard4> xubuntu444: hahaha
[04:03] <_Dirk_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5724975/.... the directions i followed
[04:04] <xubuntu444> because have been looking on how to get my netflix to play on my comp for 3 days and still no success to get netflix to play
[04:05] <xubuntu444> i have tried to get it to work with the compholio thing and still nothing\
[04:05] <_Dirk_> i cant get any comedy central videos to play either... youtube works does it for u?
[04:06] <xubuntu444> yeah but i dont want to watch you tube all the time
[04:07] <xubuntu444> is there another thing like netflix besides
[04:07] <xubuntu444> youtube
[04:08] <holstein> _Dirk_: nothing about your swap file size or settings with make your graphics card better, or better supported, or "faster"
[04:08] <_Dirk_> ya me niether i was just asking because i'm having sorta the same problem... everything else plays but can't watch the dailyshow (SUX!!) ... ya there is crackle, hulu, a bunch
[04:08] <holstein> _Dirk_: if you have older hardware, you might not be able to do so
[04:09] <holstein> i usually try the actual google chrome browser.. not chromium.. as a troubleshooting step.. that is the only way to get the current flash in linux
[04:09] <_Dirk_> HOLSTEIN.... ya but from what i gathered it was supposed to free up some ram to allow programs to run better...
[04:10] <holstein> _Dirk_: no.. thats not the issue you are having
[04:10] <_Dirk_> linux and flash clash... HTML%
[04:10] <_Dirk_> HTML5
[04:11] <_Dirk_> HOLSTEIN... well i'm not sure what is going on then, but my comp is diffinatly running better... i swtched to xubuntu in hopes of getting rid of some of the lag but it didn't work...
[04:12] <_Dirk_> sorry i should have said that i switched from ubuntu to xubuntu
[04:12] <holstein> _Dirk_: xubuntu is not going to make your hardware any faster
[04:13] <_Dirk_> i was thinking a lighter distro might help
[04:13] <holstein> xfce and lxde can use less resources, and make things seem more responsive, but it doesnt make your hardware any different
[04:14] <holstein> xubuntu444: netflix doesnt officially support linux or ubuntu
[04:14] <holstein> !netflix | xubuntu444 this is how you do it.. and its a hack
[04:14] <_Dirk_> i even debated putting puppy or Lubuntu but those are to striped down for me
[04:15] <holstein> _Dirk_: puppy is not a distro that you install.. lubuntu still has access to the repos and the normal ubuntu user base for support
[04:15] <bazhang> video lag wont be helped by that
[04:16] <_Dirk_> ya i figured that out by trying it... the ubuntu room suggested it
[04:16] <holstein> _Dirk_: the graphics hardware support will not be "better" by changing DE's. or distros
[04:16] <holstein> _Dirk_: how did the vesa driver work?
[04:17] <holstein> _Dirk_: i must have missed where you linked your hardware information.. what device are you using? what operation system? 13.04? 32bit?
[04:19] <_Dirk_> i didnt mess with the versa driver, if i did i don't remember doing it... give me a minute and i'll my hardware 411
[04:20] <holstein> _Dirk_: trying a different graphics driver *will* effect the issues you are trying to address. the vesa driver is a graphics driver i use, and suggest using for troubleshooting purposes
[04:21] <_Dirk_> i used wubi to install ubuntu 12.04, upgraded to 12.10 and swithced to xubuntu desktop... http://imagebin.org/259889
[04:22] <holstein> !nvidia | _Dirk_
[04:22] <holstein> ^^ thats what i refer to
[04:22] <_Dirk_> how do i trouble shoot and go about installing that versa driver? my graphics card stopped working so i'm using my internal graphics on my motherboard which is extremely old
[04:23] <holstein> _Dirk_: as i said, the vesa driver is installed. you just configure it
[04:23] <_Dirk_> how?
[04:23] <holstein> !vesa
[04:23] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/63264/unsupported-video-chipset-how-do-i-force-low-graphics-mode
[04:24] <holstein> ^^ thats the link with a sample xorg.conf
[04:24] <holstein> _Dirk_: you are not going to be able to solve this with software though... thats likely the issue
[04:24] <_Dirk_> i'm using my optimus s sprint phone to connect to the internet so my connection speed is rediculas slow 11m/s
[04:24] <holstein> _Dirk_: what would i do? get a better graphics card at a charity shop for cheap
[04:25] <holstein> or, i would not have expectations of running a modern operating system on older hardware.. or i would run what operating system supports the hardware
[04:29] <_Dirk_> after i paste what is says into the gnu nano File: /etc/X11/xorg.conf      ........ what do i do next.. i pressed enter but it doesn't do anything
[04:29] <holstein> _Dirk_: this is *not* going to help you.. but this is how
[04:30] <_Dirk_> which is what? which operating system do you suggest?
[04:30] <holstein> _Dirk_: you make an xorg.conf for *your* system, and put it in place at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:30] <holstein> _Dirk_: whatever operating system supports that hardware
[04:30] <holstein> _Dirk_: i dont have that hardware.. but i have machines that are newer that have hardware that is not well supported in linux
[04:31] <holstein> i do not watch youtube on them.. they either dont run X, or i use them for specific tasks that work for what they can do
[04:31] <holstein> _Dirk_: you will not download any moder operating system, from anyone that will make that machine run like a new machine
[04:33] <_Dirk_> before my video card stopped working i made flash animations but i was running windows xp... i reinstalled windows and got fed up with trying to find the drivers to get sound so i made the switch to ubuntu about 3 days ago and i love it ... i'm never going back
[04:34] <holstein> _Dirk_: cool.. then, consider the other option.. i got a card at a chartiy shop for $10 us.. works great with the newer nvidia drivers i linked above
[04:34] <_Dirk_> in 2001 this machine was top of the line... why can't i just run my machine like people did in the 90's
[04:34] <_Dirk_> ten bux is pretty cheap i can swing that
[04:35] <holstein> _Dirk_: i think if you were to install windows 2000 on there, you would find the driver support great..
[04:35] <holstein> you *can* run your machine like folks did in the 90's.. but you wont get to the web that we have now with it, and run all the latest whizz-bang stuff
[06:54] <amagee> -ChanServ- [#xubuntu] Welcome to #xubuntu. This channel is logged. <--- where?
[06:56] <elfy> amagee: at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com
[06:57] <amagee> ah cool, thanks
[06:58] <elfy> welcome
[10:18] <xubuntu328> so i trust xubuntu should be fine on a samsung n145 plus 10.1" ?
[10:21] <flux242> I have xubuntu 12.04 on samsung n10. It's kinda slow
[10:22] <xubuntu328> is it an atom processor with 1gb ram?
[10:22] <xubuntu328> I'll remove everything i dont need ofc
[10:23] <flux242> xubuntu328: no, you'll still have lots of crap installed
[10:24] <flux242> like you cannot remove zeitgeist without removing catfish
[10:25] <xubuntu328> this pcf will just be used to read the news, listen to music, and chat while im on the toilet
[10:25] <cfhowlett> xubuntu328, TMI ...
[10:25] <xubuntu328> I'll see if im going to try out lubuntu too
[10:25] <xubuntu328> sry :P
[10:26] <flux242> xp works better with this hw
[10:26] <xubuntu328> it came with windows 7
[10:27] <xubuntu328> this n145 p
[10:28] <flux242> xubuntu328: I've written a short article about minimal xubuntu installation.
[10:28] <xubuntu328> Would you kindly msg me it? :)
[10:30] <flux242> flux242.blogspot.com Should be the second link from the beginning
[10:31] <xubuntu328> thanks alot
[10:44] <xubuntu328> Well hdd space is no problem, its the ram and cpu usage im worrying about
[10:44] <flux242> the less processes you have running the faster the system
[10:45] <xubuntu328> exactly
[10:45] <xubuntu328> and more battery time
[10:45] <flux242> that's what minimal system offers
[10:45] <flux242> battery live is pretty bad with ubuntu I must say
[10:46] <xubuntu328> Yep, i took a quick a look at the guide
[10:46] <flux242> even with all the hacks I've added
[10:46] <xubuntu328> most likely will try it
[10:47] <xubuntu328> I<ve got another much better laptop, so this is just for fun :)
[10:47] <xubuntu328> and normally i use a desktop
[10:49] <flux242> win7 works approximately 1 hour longer than ubunty with the same hw.
[10:49] <flux242> simply surfing
[12:32] <pepijn___> I created a 30gb partition on my 16gb disk for Windows 8 and am now installing xubuntu with the "alongside windows 8" opeion. what will this do with regard to disk layout?
[12:32] <pepijn___> I wanted to give another 30gb to xubuntu and have the rest for files and stuff
[12:33] <cfhowlett> pepijn___, it will install ubuntu to the new partition and, ideally, create a grub menu for you to select an OS on bootup
[12:33] <cfhowlett> pepijn___, wait, what
[12:33] <pepijn___> What I hope it's *not* doing now is resizing the windows partition or puting ubuntu in a iso file
[12:33] <pepijn___> 160gb
[12:33] <cfhowlett> pepijn___, you created a 30 g partition on a 16 g disk?
[12:34] <pepijn___> missed a zero ;)
[12:34] <pepijn___> cfhowlett: what is "the new partition" in this case?
[12:34] <cfhowlett> pepijn___, ok.  but you WILL need to resize your windows partition so you can use the empty partition for ubuntu.  by default, windows owns the whole HDD.
[12:35] <pepijn___> My windows install is not default, it lives on a 3gb partition currently, with the rest of the disk unalocated
[12:35] <pepijn___> 30
[12:36] <cfhowlett> pepijn___, you really don't like 0, do you.  OK, creating a partition from unallocated space will NOT resize your windows partition.
[12:37] <pepijn___> I know, but the point is that I did not tell xubuntu what to do. It just went ahead and did something
[12:37] <elfy> then you should have used Something Else which is the manual partition setup method
[12:37] <pepijn___> so if it created a new partition in the unalocated space, all is good
[12:38] <pepijn___> if it did something bad to my windows partition, that's not good
[12:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> gonna be a noobish question, but how can you tell if your cpu is overclocked? reason I ask is I have the cpufreq-plugin on my dash and it tops out at 2.8ghz, so I'm curious if the scaling of the cpu is due to over/undeclocking or if I can still push it harder.
[12:38] <elfy> if you used 'alongside' then it will be trying shrink as far as I know
[12:38] <elfy> pepijn___: ^^
[12:38] <pepijn___> \:(
[12:38] <pepijn___> ok, i'll need to fix that :(
[12:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> pepijn___: which is why wizards should be avoided XD
[12:38] <pepijn___> nah, wizards should explain what they are going to do
[12:39] <elfy> pepijn___: do NOT just turn it off
[12:39] <pepijn___> I'd rather have a wizard than do teh whole arch linux thing again
[12:39] <pepijn___> elfy: no, I'll just let it do its thing and then fix everything  :/
[12:39] <elfy> pepijn___: installing from something else is easy if you understand partitions :)
[12:39] <elfy> pepijn___: good :)
[12:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> iirc it does, but arch *does* have a wizard, of sorts. its not like you're compiling your distro from source XD
[12:40] <elfy> sorry cfhowlett - looked like I was barging in :)
[12:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> elfy: yep, I always use something else, keeps my separate $HOME partition safe
[12:41] <pepijn___> I definitelly should have clicked something else :/
[12:43] <elfy> yep
[12:44] <elfy> used to be called Manual or something like that
[12:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> pepijn___: ah well, you live and learn. count this off as a lesson. you can take a cab, but they may take a longer route for a better fair. drive yourself :D
[12:49] <cfhowlett> elfy, no worries.  always glad to have a 2nd opinion
[12:49]  * elfy too 
[13:26] <pepijn___> itactually did install in the empty space on the disk
[13:26] <pepijn___> better than expected :)
[13:27] <pepijn___> but I'd like to shrink that space and I can't boot from the usb drive anymore
[13:27] <elfy> that's not what I expect to happen if you choose install alongside - though it suits you
[13:29] <pepijn___> Üse of uninitiated value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf.pm
[13:29] <pepijn___> that's the last message when I press ESC during the spinning thing while it boots
[13:30] <elfy> you tried again I assume?
[13:30] <pepijn___> yes
[13:31] <elfy> no idea I'm afraid - though it's the type of thing I'd not waste time on and just redo the image on the drive
[13:31] <pepijn___> :)
[13:31]  * elfy is a pragmatist 
[13:35] <pepijn___> weird, on the installed system it pops up a bedcomf window
[13:36] <pepijn___> or rather it flashes and disappears again
[13:44] <pepijn___> what is a good fs type to use for sharing stuff between windows and linux?
[13:45] <pepijn___> I hope the answer is not FAT, but maybe that's still the case
[13:45] <elfy> to share between them I'd use ntfs
[13:45] <pepijn___> ok, xubuntu can write ntfs in a stable manner nowadays?
[13:46] <pepijn___> I havn't used windows in a long time, so it used to be that ntfs was read-only or at least not very stable.
[14:42] <kos_tom> hello
[14:42] <kos_tom> has the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/+bug/1055810 been fixed ?
[14:42] <kos_tom> I've just switched from Xubuntu 12.04 to 13.04, and this bug is horribly annoying.
[14:55] <bekks> kos_tom: The status of the bug (as can be seen in your link) indicates it hasnt been fixed yet.
[14:56] <kos_tom> the problem is fixed upstream by http://git.xfce.org/xfce/libxfce4ui/commit/?id=9dfbc906f89601f145557fe6846e9ad44a8e9e22 apparently
[14:56] <kos_tom> wouldn't it be possible to backport this patch into Xubuntu packages?
[14:57] <bekks> kos_tom: You could add that as a comment to the bug, so the maintainer doesnt have to search for that again once the bug is assigned.
[14:59] <kos_tom> also, I'm affected by a strange bug
[14:59] <kos_tom> at the graphical login prompt
[14:59] <kos_tom> if I type with the internal keyboard of the laptop, I get the proper keyboard layout (i.e french azerty for me), but when I type with the USB external keyboard, I get a wrong layout (qwerty)
[15:00] <kos_tom> *however*, as soon as I've typed *one* character with the internal laptop keyboard, then the USB external keyboard has the correct layout
[15:02] <kos_tom> ok, after rebuilding the libxfce4-ui package with the patch I pointed, the first problem is fixed.
[15:02] <kos_tom> an idea for the second bug?
[15:06] <kos_tom> bekks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/+bug/1055810/comments/15
[15:06] <bekks> kos_tom: Perfect :) That saves a lot of time for the maintainer :)
[15:08] <kos_tom> bekks: I've also attached the backported patch I've done.
[15:08] <kos_tom> now, any idea for the second problem I exposed?
[15:19] <xubuntu087> I recently switched from unity to xfce4. How can I get a zoom plugin for xfce just like ccsm provides for unity?
[18:09] <je_day> Hi there. I am setting up small home media server with xubuntu.  What software I should install?
[18:10] <je_day> Anybody?
[18:11] <je_day> LNCP:  Hi there. I am setting up small home media server with xubuntu.  What software I should install?
[18:12] <LNCP> je_day: Never done home media stuff before, sorry.
[18:12] <je_day> Ok thx
[18:12] <je_day> anyway
[18:13] <je_day> LNCP:  do you have any idea who is the pro there?
[18:14] <LNCP> No. You generally just wait for someone to respond instead of questioning people directly.
[18:15] <je_day> OK, It's my first time in this type of communities so thanks you for support.
[18:15] <pleia2> je_day: it really depends on what you're trying to do :) music? movies? audio? what outputs?
[18:15] <pleia2> the folks in #ubuntu-mythtv know a lot though, they have a whole ubuntu-based distro around it (based on 12.04)
[18:15] <pleia2> that's very tv-focused though
[18:16] <je_day> pleia2:  All kind of media but mostly movies
[18:16] <pleia2> is it connected to a tv, or just a file server serving media via dlna or something?
[18:16] <je_day> second type
[18:17] <pleia2> I have a "media server" but all it does is serve the media, my tv has native dlna so it can see it on the network
[18:17] <pleia2> I use mediatomb
[18:17] <pleia2> it's not great, but it works
[18:18] <je_day> got it
[18:18] <je_day> How do subtitles work with it?
[18:18] <pleia2> I don't know
[18:19] <pleia2> they have a channel at #mediatomb though
[18:19] <je_day> ok
[18:19] <Sysi> that's just for dlna, if you want for example windows shares you'll need samba
[18:20] <je_day> My xubuntu setup endend and goona restart. Thx for support. Maybe i will be back.
[18:21] <dbb> hi all - I have a really dump question.. I have a VM running and the date is out of sync by 20 hours due to downtime.. the Date and Time pref says synch automatically, but its clearlynow.. when I tried ntpdate it says "no servers can be used" and exits
[18:21] <dbb> what to do?
[18:21] <dbb> s/dump/dumb/
[18:22] <dbb> clearly not...
[18:22] <pleia2> dbb: the ntpdate command requires you to specify a server
[18:22] <dbb> suggestion for a server name?
[18:23] <pleia2> could use one of the ubuntu ones, like 0.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org
[18:23] <dbb> why is it not synching do you think?
[18:23] <pleia2> (they are 0-3)
[18:23] <dbb> thx
[18:23] <pleia2> ntp is running?
[18:23] <dbb> ps aux | grep ntp     perhaps
[18:23] <dbb> yeah nothing
[18:23] <pleia2> so in order for it to keep time, you need a service running that does that
[18:24] <pleia2> the most common one is ntp
[18:24] <pleia2> (that's the package name)
[18:24] <pleia2> so if you install that, you should be good :)
[18:24] <dbb> sure .. makes sense.. I naivley thought that checking the Accesories box to auto synch would take care of it all
[18:24] <pleia2> I don't really know what that does
[18:25] <dbb> time is one of those things on Linux that is so dense that it makes me want to just skip the whole topic
[18:25] <dbb> personally
[18:25] <dbb> sudo apt-get install ntp => ntp is already at the newest version
[18:25] <pleia2> so when I select "keep syncronized with internet servers" I get a warning saying ntp is not installed
[18:26] <dbb> see!
[18:26] <pleia2> you need to install it
[18:26] <dbb> didnt I just try that above?
[18:26] <pleia2> sorry, I just read that
[18:26] <pleia2> please be patient, I'm a volunteer and I'm trying to help :(
[18:26] <dbb> np
[18:26] <pleia2> so type this: service ntp start
[18:27] <dbb> I drank coffee - I am typing fast ;-)
[18:27] <pleia2> err: sudo service ntp start
[18:27] <dbb> trying...
[18:27] <dbb> ooohhh ahhhhh
[18:27] <dbb> why that was not already going.. no clue.. but that appeared to do something
[18:28] <pleia2> not sure, maybe it crashed or something?
[18:28] <dbb> yeah - fyi what I do with this VM is move it back and forth with me where I go to work
[18:28] <dbb> so its off then on on differrnt VirtualBox hosts
[18:29] <dbb> ok, I'll check back on it later.. thx!
[18:29] <pleia2> sure, good luck
[18:29] <dbb> XUbuntu is working really well for me.. general thx for that too
[18:32] <xubuntu252> hello guys
[18:32] <xubuntu252> im new here
[18:33] <pleia2> !ask
[18:33] <xubuntu252> im about to try for the first time xubuntu
[18:33] <xubuntu252> but
[18:33] <pleia2> :)
[18:33] <xubuntu252> can i install it from a flash drive instead from a cd?
[18:33] <pleia2> yes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[18:33] <xubuntu252> thanks a lot
[18:34] <xubuntu252> i thought i need to convert the iso into something, thanks again
[18:44] <xubuntu795> hello one last question, where can i download usb creator directly? i just installed from an old cd ubuntu 8.04 but cannot update thats why i downloaded xubuntu iso and i need to install it from a flash drive, you send me a tutorial but the only way i found to download usb creator doesnt work for me because this version is no longer supported in repositories
[18:44] <xubuntu795> in synaptic
[18:48] <Unit193> usb-creator-gtk is the real name of the application, but if it doesn't work you can use unetbootin or dd.
[18:51] <xubuntu795> thanks ill try the other two i only found how to install the first one by synaptic or ubuntu software center and i cant access none of them
[19:01] <xubuntu795> thanks a lot it finally works good luck, bye
[19:30] <zephyr> Panicking: I just attempted to install Windows 7 onto a separate partition but somehow ended up deleting my /home partition!  Could someone please help me out?  How can I restore that partition and its data?
[19:32] <Unit193> !testdisk
[19:32] <Unit193> Well, testdisk is what I'd run to for that.
[19:34] <zephyr> Unit193, run it to analyze for lost partitions?
[19:35] <Unit193> See if you can get anything out of it, yeah.  There are other options too I'd think, but prepare to be lost.
[19:35] <Unit193> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[19:35] <zephyr> ugh.  So frustrating.  All my family's baby photos and videos were on there.
[19:36] <Unit193> Ouch, yeah...
[19:36] <zephyr> I just told Windows to delete a blank partition for its own installation; it cleared the entire disk, not just the partition.
[19:37] <th0r> zephyr: did windows complete the installation?
[19:37] <zephyr> th0r, no.  As soon as I saw that huge chunk of "unallocated space" I backed out of the install.
[19:37] <zephyr> It didn't write anything to the disk
[19:38] <zephyr> And I never formatted or created new partitions over it.
[19:42] <Unit193> zephyr: Seems like testdisk has a higher shot, then.
[19:44] <zephyr> I have testdisk running a scan; hopefully the right one.
[20:17] <contrapunctus> Hey folks. I tried running some programs using 'xfce4-terminal -e program1 -H --tab -e program2 -H'. However, when I close any of those programs, I don't get the...'input prompt'? i.e. I want to be able to hit the up arrow key and enter the same command again, but am not allowed to do that. Please help...
[20:19] <Sysi> try: -e bash programname
[20:22] <contrapunctus> Sysi - Same :(
[21:56] <zephyr> So, I'm using testdisk to attempt to recover a couple accidentally deleted partitions.  However, the partition I'm most concerned with has been listed a LOT of times, all with different start, end, and size values.  Where  do I go from here?
[23:17] <halawany> please i have installed an application then i couldnt find it tell me how to find it
[23:18] <Unit193> What one?
[23:19] <halawany> aircrack-ng
[23:19] <Unit193> That's not a graphical program
[23:20] <halawany> ok how to run it
[23:22] <Unit193> !terminal
[23:26] <halawany> ok whats the command shoul i use to run it
[23:27] <Unit193> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/aircrack-ng Could try reading the options here.
[23:29] <halawany> thanks bro i will read the topic thanks for help :)
[23:30] <Unit193> Sure.
[23:50] <haydenbbickerton> testing...testing...
[23:52] <knome> haydenbbickerton, test not working. missing support question. exiting. beep.
[23:53] <haydenbbickerton> *computer explodes*