[00:25] <malaphus> Unit193: there is no apps/ directory under /usr/share/themes/Lubuntu-default/
[00:27] <Unit193> malaphus: I'm not 100% sure that Lubuntu isn't mainly using the defaults.  I have shimmer-themes installed which does in fact have it.
[00:27] <Unit193> malaphus: Not tried to theme it much, personally.
[01:18] <Rarrikins> It seems that the applications menu has no applications unless I delete /tmp/.menu-cached... and then restart lxpanel. Why is that?
[01:22] <binaryhermit> 4-0 this is starting to get ridiculous
[01:23] <binaryhermit> and I'd guess that file is getting corrupted somehow
[01:26] <Rarrikins> It's a socket.
[01:26] <Rarrikins> It's weird. It gets created when I log in. I log out and log back in and the lxpanel application menu is almost empty unless I delete the file while I'm logged out.
[01:30] <binaryhermit> that problem is above my pay grade, sorry.  and I apologize about the 4-0 comment, it's a case of wrong channel.
[01:30] <Rarrikins> Oh, no problem on that.
[01:31] <Unit193> His team isn't doing well.  Could try to reinstall lxmenu-data, but don't really think that'd help so much.
[01:33] <binaryhermit> actually, my team is the team with 4 goals.
[03:36] <malaphus> In Lubuntu 13.04, I moved the panel from the bottom to the top of the screen and now it overlaps my desktop icons, anyone know how to remedy that?
[03:37] <holstein> what desktop icons?
[03:37] <holstein> i would just logout and back in and see if it OK
[03:38] <malaphus> tried to logout and back in, no dice
[03:38] <malaphus> I created some .desktop files in my ~/Desktop directory
[03:50] <malaphus> :q
[03:50] <malaphus> oops
[03:51] <holstein> i suppose a screenshot wouldnt hurt.. might want to look at how you are implementing desktop icons
[04:06] <malaphus> trying to figure out how to add png support to gimp so I can save the screenshot, heh
[04:07] <malaphus> Oh, overlap
[04:08] <malaphus> http://carbon.collisionpoint.net/overlap.png
[04:08] <malaphus> Theres the screenshot of the overlap
[04:10] <holstein> http://blog.lxde.org/?p=804 might be relevant
[04:11] <holstein> personally, when i start adding things to LXDE i usually just jump to XFCE at some point..
[04:11] <malaphus> Hmm, not sure how this is relavent heh
[04:11] <malaphus> nothing to do with pcmanfm
[04:11] <holstein> i would try forcing placement... maybe try another panel,a nd see if they dogge that panel
[04:12] <holstein> malaphus: sure
[04:12] <holstein> malaphus: feel free and ignore what you like from me, or any volunteer
[04:12] <malaphus> I can manually move the icons and its fine, but newly created icons are a problem
[04:12] <holstein> malaphus: no one is going to tell you how to fix that issue.. it'll be something you sort out on your own
[04:12] <holstein> its not a goal of lubuntu for sure.. i would ask in the lxde channel too
[04:13] <malaphus> I just figured maybe someone else has had the same issue, since top panels aren't that rare
[04:13] <holstein> malaphus: hang here as long as you like... but i would try different panels or specifying placement
[04:14] <holstein> if you can drag them to different positions, whats the issue?
[04:14] <malaphus> "but newly created icons are a problem"
[04:14] <holstein> you dont want to have the panel over the new ones that pop up?
[04:14] <malaphus> aye
[04:14] <holstein> i would send that screenshot to the LXDE list
[04:15] <malaphus> alright, thanks
[04:15] <holstein> good luck!... lubuntu has a mailing list as well that might hel
[04:15] <holstein> p
[07:56] <sunny__> Hi
[07:56] <sunny__> I need help to install lubuntu 13.04
[07:57] <sunny__> it's the first time i've to install lubuntu, I was used to ubuntu before
[07:58] <sunny__> is there somebody available to assist me ? (and sorry for the poor english, i'm not a native speaker)
[07:58] <Unit193> Haven't asked your question yet...
[07:59] <sunny__> i try to run it live on a usb stick and get a 'boot error' each time it starts on it
[07:59] <JohnDoe_71Rus> sunny__: download iso image - burn it to cd - boot from cd - install (just like ubuntu install)
[08:00] <sunny__> i used linux live usb creator to burn the image on the stick
[08:00] <JohnDoe_71Rus> sunny__: try stick on other computer. if don't boot to - you make wrong boot stick
[08:01] <sunny__> i tried on 3 computers, same result
[08:02] <sunny__> do you recommand another program to install it on a stick ?
[08:02] <JohnDoe_71Rus> you can try
[08:02] <sunny__> I tried several times with new iso images of lubuntu (always 13.04) without any sucess
[08:03] <Unit193> Did you verify the download?
[08:03] <sunny__> nope
[08:03] <sunny__> how can i do that ?
[08:03] <sunny__> i mean, normaly the install program (lili) do it before burning it on usb
[08:04] <Unit193> !md5sum
[08:05] <sunny__> ok, i'll try that first
[08:06] <sunny__> got to go, thanks for your help guys!
[08:07] <sunny__> bye
[10:13] <ochosi> not sure who of you folks is taking caer of lubuntu's greeter again, but i quickly wanted to forward the notice that we just released a new version of lightdm-gtk-greeter: http://www.smdavis.us/2013/06/03/lightdm-gtk-greeter-1-6-0-released/
[10:13] <ochosi> s/caer/care/
[15:06] <woshty> hey. I am getting some strange error announcments, asking me to report. Are they logged somewhere?
[15:45] <n-iCe> hello
[17:59] <wxl> woshty: yes, they're logged, but if you let apport do it's job, you won't have to try to find them. here's everything you wanted to know about bug reporting: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[19:06] <phillw> woshty: also, as it is still not fully announced yet, as we are still awaiting some time and date confirmations for people and teams, there is a planned week of classroom sessions to held via https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Saucy
[19:08] <phillw> which you may be interested in.
[19:39] <Giu> Hello after upgrading to lubuntu 13.04 I cannot hear my netbook speakers. so I was suggested to reinstall 13.04 from scratch because I was blamed for messing up with sources and repositories (quantal proposed flagged as sources). So now I am trying lubuntu 13.04 in livemode and cannot hear either any sound out of my HDA VIA VT82XX sound card. Anyone has some tip to share? Was it me really to mess up or is my sound card not supported with
[19:41] <Giu_> Hello after upgrading to lubuntu 13.04 I cannot hear my netbook speakers. so I was suggested to reinstall 13.04 from scratch because I was blamed for messing up with sources and repositories (quantal proposed flagged as source). So now I am trying lubuntu 13.04 in livemode and cannot hear either any sound out of my HDA VIA VT82XX sound card. Anyone has some tip to share? Was it me really to mess up or is my sound card not supported?
[19:58] <Unit193> ochosi: That'd be 神癒礁湖/rafaellaguna or maybe gilir, none of which are online now, and first guy hardly is.
[20:02] <Giu_> ok
[20:03] <Giu_> thanks anyway....I will try later. I want to check with someone before reinstalling the 12.10
[20:04] <Unit193> Did you check with settings in alsamixer?
[20:10] <Giu_> all ok there. all channels are 00
[20:11] <Giu_> by the way the output jack is working fine both with live and with the installed 13.04: so I can hear audio via headphone
[20:11] <Giu_> sorry headset
[20:11] <ochosi> Unit193: yeah, i saw it and hoped someone would pick up the ball :)
[20:12] <ochosi> Unit193: i mean, i've been in touch with them before, probably will just send them an email
[20:12] <Unit193> ochosi: Alright, otherwise I could poke him when he comes online.
[20:13] <ochosi> Unit193: yeah, that'd be great. i'm still looking for that email exchange we had about the greeter...
[20:13] <Unit193> Giu_: You could try installing pulse and pavucontrol, but it should just work with alsa.
[20:15] <Giu_> thanks guys. with the installed version I found out something weird with pavucontrol (I have two loudspeaker icons at the bottom nearby the clock). With lvie mode I guess I should start my usb pen in persistence and install these applications: I may try,  is there a forum I can post eventually the question so that rafaellaguna or gilir can eventually reply when they will have time?
[22:11] <woshty> phillw, wxl: thx