| TheLordOfTime | you guys treat this like any feature request bug, right? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/1186754 | 00:06 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1186754 in ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu) "Use icon theme for starred icons" [Undecided,Opinion] | 00:06 |
| TheLordOfTime | it came up in privmsg with someone asking if it should be marked as "wishlist" / "triaged" as a feature request | 00:06 |
| infinity | TheLordOfTime: The triager who decided it wasn't a bug seems a bit overzealous. | 00:16 |
| infinity | TheLordOfTime: jbicha made some fair points as to why this change might be a good thing (consistency, reduced complexity). | 00:16 |
| TheLordOfTime | infinity: agreed on the overzealousness we're addressing that now | 00:17 |
| TheLordOfTime | infinity: my main question was whether you'd treat it as a feature request :) | 00:18 |
| TheLordOfTime | at least, as the devs. | 00:18 |
| infinity | TheLordOfTime: Wishlist certainly seems more valid than Opinion. | 00:18 |
| TheLordOfTime | infinity: that's what i thought, but i don't want to tweak "upstream project" statuses. | 00:19 |
| TheLordOfTime | infinity: no harm in setting the upstreams back to "new" as they were and let upstream change those bugs' statuses, right? | 00:19 |
| infinity | TheLordOfTime: Seems fair. | 00:19 |
| infinity | I'm not even sure why "opinion" exists, except to make people not feel bad by setting bugs to "invalid". | 00:20 |
| TheLordOfTime | i agree | 00:22 |
| TheLordOfTime | TBH i think 'Opinion' should be bugcontrol only | 00:22 |
| TheLordOfTime | because i see it occasionally abused :/ | 00:23 |
| infinity | I might start filing all my bugs as "opinion" and starting all the descriptions with "It is my opinion that..." | 00:23 |
| infinity | eg: "It is my opinion that this shouldn't segfault when I start it." | 00:23 |
| TheLordOfTime | heh | 00:25 |
| TheLordOfTime | infinity: objections to Wishlist/Triaged which is afaict the usual standard for feature requests in the ubuntu packages? | 00:25 |
| TheLordOfTime | since i specialize in server packages, i like double checking on packages outside that specialization before messing with em :p | 00:25 |
| infinity | TheLordOfTime: Nope, seems fine to me. If the desktop team or s-c hackers decide it should be something else, they can change it. | 00:26 |
| TheLordOfTime | infinity: indeed, done btw. | 00:28 |
| TheLordOfTime | i'm going to go back to facedesking over the fact that nginx FTBFS on centos with the same command line options as nginx-full has in ubuntu >.< | 00:29 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 04:44 |
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| pitti | slangasek: what was broken in particular about 0010-Add-back-support-for-Debian-specific-config-files.patch ? all the {time,hostname,locale}ctl commands were working, now timedated is broken (see failing autopkgtest) | 05:51 |
| * pitti checks the difference | 05:52 | |
| slangasek | pitti: missing support for /etc/default/keyboard, which is where our keyboard settings are stored | 05:52 |
| pitti | ah, thanks | 05:52 |
| slangasek | pitti: hadn't seen the failing autopkgtest yet, sorry - are you going to sort that today, or should I have a look in the morning? | 05:52 |
| pitti | slangasek: I can sort it out today | 05:53 |
| slangasek | ok | 05:53 |
| pitti | slangasek: I'd rather restore Debian's patch and do our's as a new patch on top of it if you don't mind, for easier merging | 05:53 |
| pitti | and I have a proposed fix for smb's crash | 05:53 |
| slangasek | pitti: as you prefer. any sign yet of mbiebl's branch being pushed to the official packaging branch? | 05:54 |
| pitti | not yet :( | 05:54 |
| slangasek | strange that timedated would be failing, I thought the patches I changed only touched localed | 05:55 |
| pitti | no, also src/timedate/timedated.c | 05:56 |
| pitti | hm, I'm not sure whether Debian also uses /etc/default/keyboard; mbiebl, do you know? | 05:57 |
| pitti | we did quite some work on that on the ubuntu side AFAIR | 05:57 |
| slangasek | I haven't checked to be sure, but I'm almost positive that's in sync with Debian | 06:01 |
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| smb | pitti, Moin. I will be in a state to test things (or even look at them) in a min or so | 07:02 |
| pitti | smb: ah, the amd64 systemd build in my PPA should finish in a few mins, too :) | 07:02 |
| smb | heh :) | 07:02 |
| pitti | smb: thanks for your investigations; I think I see the race condition with 0024-avoid-exit-deadlock-for-dm_cookie.patch, which also explains why it doesn't crash without that patch | 07:03 |
| smb | pitti, Ah ok. I did not get to a good explanation last week. There was (or is) a difference in the way that "force" was able to raise the number of childs but then I never remembered having seen messages about that | 07:04 |
| pitti | that patch basically keeps the worker running for a DM_COOKIE event, despite having been told to stop | 07:05 |
| pitti | I still don't quite understand why we need this, but you confirmed that you are still missing /dev/mapper/ devices without the patch | 07:06 |
| pitti | in theory, this hack of a patch shouldn't be necessary, as /etc/init/udevtrigger.conf should re-trigger all devices (for non-root partitions), and the initramfs already waits for the root partition to appear | 07:07 |
| smb | Yeah, the missing links seem independant, but as you said in the bug report (which I am slowly reading) lets first fix the crash and then look for the rest | 07:07 |
| * smb reached the bottom and prepares to boot the noisemaker | 07:08 | |
| pitti | smb: I think missing the links is exactly what that patch was supposed to fix? | 07:08 |
| pitti | smb: https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/ppa/+build/4637729 -> done :) | 07:09 |
| smb | It should, but strangely I got the missing links also when booting non-xen which most of the time did not run into the crash | 07:10 |
| pitti | smb: but after that, perhaps we can boot your version without the patch again, and see why /etc/init/udevtrigger.conf doesn't create the missing devices | 07:10 |
| smb | sure we can | 07:11 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:16 |
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| infinity | pitti: BTW, ddebs are very close to landing now. Could you have a chat with wgrant to nail down what you'll need to change in your mirror scripts to make ddebs.u.c love the new world order? | 07:36 |
| pitti | \o/ | 07:36 |
| pitti | wgrant: I guess I primarily need some API to retrieve the (links to the) recent ddebs, where "recent" should mean something like "from the last day" or "from the last 6 hours" | 07:37 |
| infinity | pitti: I was thinking you might want to do something more clever like backtrack from current Packages/Sources and scrape (and keep a cache, so you don't keep retrying ones that don't have ddebs attached). | 07:38 |
| pitti | wgrant: but I guess that might actually be similar/the same one as for the static translation tarballs? | 07:38 |
| pitti | such as in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-langpack/langpack-o-matic/main/view/head:/lib/static_translations.py | 07:38 |
| wgrant | pitti: They're not custom uploads, so not quite the same as that | 07:38 |
| pitti | infinity: yeah, or that; mapping a source plus version to a set of ddeb links then | 07:38 |
| wgrant | I'd either scrape from Packages or just follow getPublishedBinaries | 07:38 |
| pitti | wgrant: so they are part of getPublishedBinaries(), they just don't appear on archive.u.c.? | 07:39 |
| StevenK | RIght. | 07:39 |
| infinity | pitti: Well, more likely Packages than Sources, I guess, since ddebs are attached to binaries. | 07:39 |
| wgrant | lp.distros['ubuntu'].main_archive.getPublishedBinaries(created_since_date=last_check_etc) | 07:39 |
| smb | pitti, Ok, I need to do more reboots for a qualified result. This first one with the ppa udev version at least had no crash and all 31 lvs of the second vg but none of the first one. | 07:39 |
| wgrant | pitti: Exactly | 07:39 |
| wgrant | pitti: They're published like normal binaries, except that they don't actually hit disk or appear in the indices. | 07:39 |
| StevenK | pitti: And then you can filter by .is_debug | 07:39 |
| pitti | ok, then mapping by published ones seems fine | 07:40 |
| infinity | pitti: This should have the positive effect of ddebs.u.c no longer carrying cruft from PPAs, too. | 07:41 |
| pitti | exactly | 07:42 |
| infinity | pitti: Anyhow, we plan to do a soft transition where we upload via .changes and keep publishing tarballs to public_html, but I want the latter to go away as quickly as it can. | 07:42 |
| shadeslayer | infinity: :O ... we're going to get ddebs? :O | 07:45 |
| StevenK | We've had ddebs for a while? This is ddebs actually being handled properly by Soyuz rather than the hacky band-aid we've had for far too long. | 07:46 |
| wgrant | (but still not on archive.ubuntu.com, for space reasons) | 07:47 |
| infinity | pitti: To be clear, you now have space to publish ddebs for all arches, right? You're not pruning anymore? | 07:47 |
| infinity | pitti: I know vorlon had a bit of a grump about retracing being completely useless on powerpc due to missing ddebs. | 07:48 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 07:48 |
| pitti | infinity: /dev/mapper/ppa_vg-ppa 2.8T 685G 2.2T 25% /srv | 07:49 |
| pitti | infinity: should be fine indeed | 07:49 |
| StevenK | Haha, I thought that LV name was familiar | 07:49 |
| infinity | pitti: Yay. Though, I know there was also a plan to make retracers fall back to the librarian if ddebs didn't have the file, so that'll also be helpful if ddebs fills up somehow. | 07:49 |
| infinity | StevenK: Yeah, ddebs is germanium, all repurposed-like. | 07:50 |
| infinity | And apparently not wiped.. | 07:50 |
| StevenK | infinity: Change the hostname in apache, delete most of /srv, call it done? | 07:50 |
| pitti | infinity: indeed, and I think that's the better mid-term solution even as we can also retrace crashes from earlier package versions | 07:50 |
| pitti | infinity: but I guess we still want an actual archive for ddebs, for people who use it with apt | 07:51 |
| infinity | pitti: Yeah, I like the apt archive existing and, ideally, that should be "published" in a sane fashion, but a bit of shoestring and bubblegum between A and B works. | 07:51 |
| infinity | pitti: And absolutely, retracers being able to retrace old versions will be great. | 07:51 |
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| zyga | good morning | 07:59 |
| pitti | slangasek: hm, I tried "localectl set-x11-keymap pc101 et" and that only wrote /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf, didn't change /etc/default/keyboard | 08:01 |
| pitti | slangasek: I'm writing a complete autopkgtest now, and will fix this (also for reading) | 08:02 |
| jamespage | @pilot in | 08:04 |
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| jamespage | mdeslaur, re bug 1184223 | 08:06 |
| ubottu | bug 1184223 in openvpn (Ubuntu Raring) "CVE-2013-2061: use of non-constant-time memcmp in HMAC comparison in openvpn_decrypt" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1184223 | 08:06 |
| jamespage | will the security team be picking up the fixes for < saucy? | 08:07 |
| pitti | slangasek: ah, ignore me; screw you, autogenerated debian/patches/debian-changes | 08:10 |
| didrocks | pitti: mind if I join to the complaint from past similar experiences? ;) | 08:12 |
| pitti | smb: would you say that 11pitti1 generally improves things (maybe not completely fix it yet)? | 08:35 |
| pitti | smb: I'm pondering an upload to re-fix timedatectl, and that crash fix | 08:35 |
| pitti | smb: if/when you would like to debug again, perhaps we can mumble? | 08:36 |
| smb | pitti, So I got a few more reboots (takes a bit on that machine) but at least those are consistent and look like an improvement at least | 08:36 |
| smb | sure | 08:36 |
| dpm | morning all. Is there an archive admin around who could upload qreator on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+queue ? It's been sitting there for a while, and it'd be great to have it in Ubuntu. Thanks! | 08:47 |
| Laney | doko: around? Can you look at this calligra no-change rebuild log and tell me if you think it's a gcc-4.8 issue please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5728708/ | 08:51 |
| Laney | It builds alright with 4.7 | 08:52 |
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| infinity | Laney: Can you crank up the verbosity on that and try again? | 09:11 |
| infinity | Laney: It just shows the command line and exits, that's not helpful. :P | 09:11 |
| Laney | infinity: look further up, sorry | 09:12 |
| Laney | it's a parallell build | 09:12 |
| Laney | line 9291 | 09:12 |
| infinity | Oh, I missed the earlier exit. It seems to cascade a few times. :/ | 09:12 |
| Laney | Probably would have been kinder to rebuild it without parallel=9 when sharing the log :P | 09:13 |
| infinity | Laney: It could be http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=57279 | 09:18 |
| ubottu | gcc.gnu.org bug 57279 in c++ "[C++11] alias declaration fails to declare function types with cv-qualifiers" [Normal,Assigned] | 09:18 |
| Laney | I did come across that | 09:18 |
| Laney | didn't seem to be a 4.8.1 package in the usual place that I could test with though | 09:18 |
| infinity | Or it could be bad C++. My C++ skills aren't stellar. | 09:18 |
| infinity | Laney: It's not fixed in 4.8.1 anyway, hence the milestone bump to 4.8.2 | 09:19 |
| Laney | ah, I misunderstand the last comment then | 09:19 |
| Laney | indeed | 09:19 |
| Laney | would it be bad to upload a build with 4.7? | 09:19 |
| infinity | Wouldn't be world-ending, but it would be nice if you also filed a bug in LP, mention that upstream bug that may or may not relate, and keep an eye on things. | 09:20 |
| infinity | When doko uploads a new gcc-snapshot, that should have the upstream bugfix in it (the current one is three days too old to...) | 09:20 |
| Laney | right | 09:20 |
| Laney | This should get us to migrating poppler, AFAICT | 09:22 |
| seb128 | Laney, do you know why update_output.txt lists libreoffice-mysql-connector ? | 09:24 |
| Laney | seb128: entangled with mysql-connector-c++ | 09:25 |
| seb128 | ah, ok | 09:25 |
| seb128 | Laney, ok, I see they both should be fine with the uploads you did + calligra | 09:26 |
| Laney | seems fine - the autohinter picks it up if you look near the end of the file | 09:26 |
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| xnox | seb128: Laney: i'm looking into gdcm build failure rabbit hole, so far I am down to patching vtk to rebuild against updated python2.7.... | 09:56 |
| seb128 | xnox, did the upload Laney just did failed to build? | 09:56 |
| xnox | hm. | 09:56 |
| xnox | seb128: hm. it works. =) oh well, vtk does need rebuilding anyway. | 09:57 |
| Laney | I did briefly look at new vtk and bashed its rules about a bit | 09:58 |
| Laney | it assumed python and tcl were in non-multiarch directories | 09:58 |
| * xnox suspects my machine is polluted with local builds. | 10:00 | |
| Laney | xnox: http://paste.debian.net/8208 was my WIP before I stopped because mitya57 had a sponsoring request up that didn't need it | 10:01 |
| Laney | feel free to carry it on | 10:01 |
| xnox | Laney: so calligra is the last one for poppler to transition?! | 10:04 |
| Laney | think so | 10:04 |
| hrw | can someone with core-dev permissions take http://pastebin.com/n1TLE7rU and upload libwps? fixed ftfbs | 10:04 |
| infinity | hrw: Sure. | 10:06 |
| hrw | infinity: thx | 10:06 |
| cjwatson | pitti: Re the ddebs discussion above, did anyone happen to mention that ddebs doesn't seem to be picking up saucy-proposed? | 10:11 |
| cjwatson | i.e. http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/saucy-proposed/main/binary-i386/ has an elderly timestamp | 10:11 |
| pitti | not to me | 10:12 |
| pitti | ooh, I know why | 10:12 |
| pitti | traditionally I have generated the pockets for the devel release once after opening the series only | 10:12 |
| * pitti updates cronjobs | 10:13 | |
| pitti | we don't let the LP retracers run against saucy-proposed so far, though | 10:13 |
| cjwatson | pitti: Yeah, I was trying to figure out something manually. Thanks | 10:14 |
| pitti | cjwatson: fixed, thanks | 10:14 |
| cjwatson | (I fell back to a local build, successfully) | 10:14 |
| pitti | (it's currently running, so it'll take some 4 hours to become effective) | 10:14 |
| pitti | I wish apt-ftparchive wouldn't be so abysmally slow | 10:15 |
| infinity | Laney: export CPP=gcc-4.7? ITYM CC? | 10:15 |
| infinity | Laney: Though, I'm sure the CXX export will get what you wanted anyway. | 10:15 |
| Laney | oops, but yeah | 10:15 |
| Laney | it was test-built, so that's enough | 10:16 |
| infinity | (curious that exporting CPP=CC doesn't make something explode, but whatever) | 10:17 |
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| pitti | cjwatson: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/saucy-proposed/main/binary-i386/ is current now, FYI | 10:53 |
| pitti | s/current/up to date/ | 10:53 |
| cjwatson | pitti: Great, thanks | 10:54 |
| Sargun | Saucy = 13.10? | 10:54 |
| cjwatson | Yes | 10:55 |
| Sargun | Almost out of letters | 10:56 |
| pitti | unicode has a loooot of letters left :) | 10:56 |
| Sargun | nooo | 10:56 |
| mlankhorst | lets start with glyphs | 10:57 |
| cjwatson | Sargun: We reused our first initial letter five years ago | 10:58 |
| maxb | But that was a bit of a special case | 10:59 |
| cjwatson | Sure, but nevertheless | 11:01 |
| cjwatson | It demonstrates that the universe will not end when we reuse a letter | 11:01 |
| jamespage | please could someone with the right permissions | 11:29 |
| jamespage | mark https://code.launchpad.net/~sdeziel/ubuntu/raring/mysql-5.5/fix-for-lp1185573/+merge/166379 | 11:29 |
| jamespage | as merged. | 11:29 |
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| mdeslaur | jamespage: yes, the security team will be doing them (LP: 1184223) | 11:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1184223 in openvpn (Ubuntu Raring) "CVE-2013-2061: use of non-constant-time memcmp in HMAC comparison in openvpn_decrypt" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1184223 | 11:38 |
| jamespage | mdeslaur, great - thanks for confirming. | 11:39 |
| mdeslaur | jamespage: we've rated it as "low" though, so it may take a while | 11:39 |
| mdeslaur | hrm, since someone has a tree, we'll sponsor that and do the others | 11:40 |
| jamespage | mdeslaur, great - thanks | 11:41 |
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| jamespage | @pilot out | 11:52 |
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| cjwatson | infinity: So, I'm getting pretty bored carrying on with merging your generalisation to all arches of the perl = TRUE stuff in r-base (see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=679180). I agree that your version is saner, but it looks like the Debian maintainer ignored it, and since raschsampler appears to build just fine with current r-base on Debian arm* these days, I'm sort of inclined to drop the patch and ... | 12:42 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 679180 in r-base-core "arm* builds fail: SHLIB_LIBADD: No such file or directory" [Serious,Fixed] | 12:42 |
| cjwatson | ... call it good. Any thoughts | 12:43 |
| cjwatson | ? | 12:43 |
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| stokachu | xnox: if you get a chance today could you re-upload sosreport for me? | 12:54 |
| stokachu | ive fixed the non native thing | 12:55 |
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| stokachu | xnox: thanks man | 13:45 |
| xnox | stokachu: =) | 13:47 |
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| hallyn | the sgabios package is currently in debian's NEW queue. When it clears, will it be automatically pulled into universe? Or does a switch need to be toggled? | 15:18 |
| mlankhorst | the wiki has instructions on how to get packages in universe | 15:19 |
| hrw | hallyn: man requestsync | 15:22 |
| hallyn | mlankhorst: what i saw only said "if you can, get it in through debian' but didn't say how to get it into universe from there | 15:22 |
| hallyn | hrw: ok, thanks. i'm not motu, but if that needs to be done i'll get it done - thanks | 15:23 |
| tumbleweed | hallyn: it'll be automatic (as in you don't need to ask), but will need an archive-admin to review it | 15:25 |
| hallyn | cool, thanks. Just need to wait on that before qemu 1.5-3 goes into saucy | 15:25 |
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| cjwatson | hallyn: it's automatic | 15:34 |
| cjwatson | ah, tumbleweed said | 15:34 |
| hallyn | great - thanks | 15:34 |
| cjwatson | if it happens before DebianImportFreeze, it doesn't really require much in the way of archive admin - it goes straight past source NEW (we trust Debian ftpmasters enough for that) and binary NEW is pro-forma | 15:34 |
| dholbach | mfisch, congratulations! :) | 15:53 |
| hrw | is it normal that launchpad assumes that maintainer==uploader when package is synced from debian? | 15:53 |
| hrw | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vboot-utils/0~20121212-2 lists Antonio as uploader... | 15:54 |
| tumbleweed | hrw: yeah, look at publishing history for the details | 15:55 |
| tumbleweed | the UI never really learned about syncs | 15:55 |
| hrw | tumbleweed: thanks | 15:55 |
| mfisch | thanks dholbach | 16:03 |
| Versable | Hey, can someone help me with bzr? | 16:05 |
| Versable | I have copied a branch into my own bzr branch, changed a couple of files, added a recipe and pushed it into my PPA | 16:07 |
| Versable | but it only build an i386 build, even though in the control file Architecture: all is specified | 16:09 |
| Laney | hmm | 16:10 |
| tumbleweed | Versable: you want Architecture: any | 16:10 |
| Laney | what's responsible for creating the XDG_RUNTIME_DIR? | 16:10 |
| tumbleweed | Versable: Architecture: all is for architecture-independant packages | 16:10 |
| Versable | tumbleweed: Thanks, the package might be architecture independant, I'll check before changing the control file | 16:11 |
| Laney | some tests in glib now expect to be able to write there but nothing creates it apparently | 16:12 |
| Versable | tumbleweed: Doh! It was, thanks though ;) | 16:13 |
| cjwatson | If it really is architecture-independent, then you would only expect an i386 build (since it builds arch-indep binaries), but it would still publish for all arches | 16:13 |
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| bdmurray | kirkland`: did you say you could verify bug 1173209? | 19:05 |
| ubottu | bug 1173209 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Raring) "Prompted about New Release for 13.04 again after dist-upgrade and a restart" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1173209 | 19:05 |
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| infinity | cjwatson: The r-base hack is just a hack anyway, regardless of if it's arch-specific or not, it doesn't fix the real bug, just works around it. | 20:41 |
| infinity | cjwatson: If the Debian maintainer's hackish workaround works as well as mine, I'm not emotionally attached to mine. | 20:42 |
| infinity | cjwatson: iz synced now. | 20:49 |
| quadrispro | hi there | 21:34 |
| cjwatson | infinity: Ta | 21:35 |
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| bdmurray | robru: would you have a look at bug 1164302? | 23:15 |
| ubottu | bug 1164302 in webapps-greasemonkey (Ubuntu Quantal) "Firefox crash during gc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1164302 | 23:15 |
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