[00:06] you guys treat this like any feature request bug, right? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/1186754 [00:06] Launchpad bug 1186754 in ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu) "Use icon theme for starred icons" [Undecided,Opinion] [00:06] it came up in privmsg with someone asking if it should be marked as "wishlist" / "triaged" as a feature request [00:16] TheLordOfTime: The triager who decided it wasn't a bug seems a bit overzealous. [00:16] TheLordOfTime: jbicha made some fair points as to why this change might be a good thing (consistency, reduced complexity). [00:17] infinity: agreed on the overzealousness we're addressing that now [00:18] infinity: my main question was whether you'd treat it as a feature request :) [00:18] at least, as the devs. [00:18] TheLordOfTime: Wishlist certainly seems more valid than Opinion. [00:19] infinity: that's what i thought, but i don't want to tweak "upstream project" statuses. [00:19] infinity: no harm in setting the upstreams back to "new" as they were and let upstream change those bugs' statuses, right? [00:19] TheLordOfTime: Seems fair. [00:20] I'm not even sure why "opinion" exists, except to make people not feel bad by setting bugs to "invalid". [00:22] i agree [00:22] TBH i think 'Opinion' should be bugcontrol only [00:23] because i see it occasionally abused :/ [00:23] I might start filing all my bugs as "opinion" and starting all the descriptions with "It is my opinion that..." [00:23] eg: "It is my opinion that this shouldn't segfault when I start it." [00:25] heh [00:25] infinity: objections to Wishlist/Triaged which is afaict the usual standard for feature requests in the ubuntu packages? [00:25] since i specialize in server packages, i like double checking on packages outside that specialization before messing with em :p [00:26] TheLordOfTime: Nope, seems fine to me. If the desktop team or s-c hackers decide it should be something else, they can change it. [00:28] infinity: indeed, done btw. [00:29] i'm going to go back to facedesking over the fact that nginx FTBFS on centos with the same command line options as nginx-full has in ubuntu >.< === Guest24881 is now known as Logan_ === Logan_ is now known as Guest5998 === Guest5998 is now known as Logan_ === Logan_ is now known as Guest36164 === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Guest36164 is now known as Logan_ === Logan_ is now known as Guest23811 [04:44] Good morning === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk === tjaalton_ is now known as tjaalton [05:51] slangasek: what was broken in particular about 0010-Add-back-support-for-Debian-specific-config-files.patch ? all the {time,hostname,locale}ctl commands were working, now timedated is broken (see failing autopkgtest) [05:52] * pitti checks the difference [05:52] pitti: missing support for /etc/default/keyboard, which is where our keyboard settings are stored [05:52] ah, thanks [05:52] pitti: hadn't seen the failing autopkgtest yet, sorry - are you going to sort that today, or should I have a look in the morning? [05:53] slangasek: I can sort it out today [05:53] ok [05:53] slangasek: I'd rather restore Debian's patch and do our's as a new patch on top of it if you don't mind, for easier merging [05:53] and I have a proposed fix for smb's crash [05:54] pitti: as you prefer. any sign yet of mbiebl's branch being pushed to the official packaging branch? [05:54] not yet :( [05:55] strange that timedated would be failing, I thought the patches I changed only touched localed [05:56] no, also src/timedate/timedated.c [05:57] hm, I'm not sure whether Debian also uses /etc/default/keyboard; mbiebl, do you know? [05:57] we did quite some work on that on the ubuntu side AFAIR [06:01] I haven't checked to be sure, but I'm almost positive that's in sync with Debian === mmrazik|afk is now known as mmrazik [07:02] pitti, Moin. I will be in a state to test things (or even look at them) in a min or so [07:02] smb: ah, the amd64 systemd build in my PPA should finish in a few mins, too :) [07:02] heh :) [07:03] smb: thanks for your investigations; I think I see the race condition with 0024-avoid-exit-deadlock-for-dm_cookie.patch, which also explains why it doesn't crash without that patch [07:04] pitti, Ah ok. I did not get to a good explanation last week. There was (or is) a difference in the way that "force" was able to raise the number of childs but then I never remembered having seen messages about that [07:05] that patch basically keeps the worker running for a DM_COOKIE event, despite having been told to stop [07:06] I still don't quite understand why we need this, but you confirmed that you are still missing /dev/mapper/ devices without the patch [07:07] in theory, this hack of a patch shouldn't be necessary, as /etc/init/udevtrigger.conf should re-trigger all devices (for non-root partitions), and the initramfs already waits for the root partition to appear [07:07] Yeah, the missing links seem independant, but as you said in the bug report (which I am slowly reading) lets first fix the crash and then look for the rest [07:08] * smb reached the bottom and prepares to boot the noisemaker [07:08] smb: I think missing the links is exactly what that patch was supposed to fix? [07:09] smb: https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/ppa/+build/4637729 -> done :) [07:10] It should, but strangely I got the missing links also when booting non-xen which most of the time did not run into the crash [07:10] smb: but after that, perhaps we can boot your version without the patch again, and see why /etc/init/udevtrigger.conf doesn't create the missing devices [07:11] sure we can [07:16] good morning === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [07:36] pitti: BTW, ddebs are very close to landing now. Could you have a chat with wgrant to nail down what you'll need to change in your mirror scripts to make ddebs.u.c love the new world order? [07:36] \o/ [07:37] wgrant: I guess I primarily need some API to retrieve the (links to the) recent ddebs, where "recent" should mean something like "from the last day" or "from the last 6 hours" [07:38] pitti: I was thinking you might want to do something more clever like backtrack from current Packages/Sources and scrape (and keep a cache, so you don't keep retrying ones that don't have ddebs attached). [07:38] wgrant: but I guess that might actually be similar/the same one as for the static translation tarballs? [07:38] such as in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-langpack/langpack-o-matic/main/view/head:/lib/static_translations.py [07:38] pitti: They're not custom uploads, so not quite the same as that [07:38] infinity: yeah, or that; mapping a source plus version to a set of ddeb links then [07:38] I'd either scrape from Packages or just follow getPublishedBinaries [07:39] wgrant: so they are part of getPublishedBinaries(), they just don't appear on archive.u.c.? [07:39] RIght. [07:39] pitti: Well, more likely Packages than Sources, I guess, since ddebs are attached to binaries. [07:39] lp.distros['ubuntu'].main_archive.getPublishedBinaries(created_since_date=last_check_etc) [07:39] pitti, Ok, I need to do more reboots for a qualified result. This first one with the ppa udev version at least had no crash and all 31 lvs of the second vg but none of the first one. [07:39] pitti: Exactly [07:39] pitti: They're published like normal binaries, except that they don't actually hit disk or appear in the indices. [07:39] pitti: And then you can filter by .is_debug [07:40] ok, then mapping by published ones seems fine [07:41] pitti: This should have the positive effect of ddebs.u.c no longer carrying cruft from PPAs, too. [07:42] exactly [07:42] pitti: Anyhow, we plan to do a soft transition where we upload via .changes and keep publishing tarballs to public_html, but I want the latter to go away as quickly as it can. [07:45] infinity: :O ... we're going to get ddebs? :O [07:46] We've had ddebs for a while? This is ddebs actually being handled properly by Soyuz rather than the hacky band-aid we've had for far too long. [07:47] (but still not on archive.ubuntu.com, for space reasons) [07:47] pitti: To be clear, you now have space to publish ddebs for all arches, right? You're not pruning anymore? [07:48] pitti: I know vorlon had a bit of a grump about retracing being completely useless on powerpc due to missing ddebs. [07:48] ah [07:49] infinity: /dev/mapper/ppa_vg-ppa 2.8T 685G 2.2T 25% /srv [07:49] infinity: should be fine indeed [07:49] Haha, I thought that LV name was familiar [07:49] pitti: Yay. Though, I know there was also a plan to make retracers fall back to the librarian if ddebs didn't have the file, so that'll also be helpful if ddebs fills up somehow. [07:50] StevenK: Yeah, ddebs is germanium, all repurposed-like. [07:50] And apparently not wiped.. [07:50] infinity: Change the hostname in apache, delete most of /srv, call it done? [07:50] infinity: indeed, and I think that's the better mid-term solution even as we can also retrace crashes from earlier package versions [07:51] infinity: but I guess we still want an actual archive for ddebs, for people who use it with apt [07:51] pitti: Yeah, I like the apt archive existing and, ideally, that should be "published" in a sane fashion, but a bit of shoestring and bubblegum between A and B works. [07:51] pitti: And absolutely, retracers being able to retrace old versions will be great. === racedo` is now known as racedo [07:59] good morning [08:01] slangasek: hm, I tried "localectl set-x11-keymap pc101 et" and that only wrote /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf, didn't change /etc/default/keyboard [08:02] slangasek: I'm writing a complete autopkgtest now, and will fix this (also for reading) [08:04] @pilot in === udevbot_ changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Ubuntu 13.04 released | Archive: open | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of lucid -> raring | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: jamespage [08:06] mdeslaur, re bug 1184223 [08:06] bug 1184223 in openvpn (Ubuntu Raring) "CVE-2013-2061: use of non-constant-time memcmp in HMAC comparison in openvpn_decrypt" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1184223 [08:07] will the security team be picking up the fixes for < saucy? [08:10] slangasek: ah, ignore me; screw you, autogenerated debian/patches/debian-changes [08:12] pitti: mind if I join to the complaint from past similar experiences? ;) [08:35] smb: would you say that 11pitti1 generally improves things (maybe not completely fix it yet)? [08:35] smb: I'm pondering an upload to re-fix timedatectl, and that crash fix [08:36] smb: if/when you would like to debug again, perhaps we can mumble? [08:36] pitti, So I got a few more reboots (takes a bit on that machine) but at least those are consistent and look like an improvement at least [08:36] sure [08:47] morning all. Is there an archive admin around who could upload qreator on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+queue ? It's been sitting there for a while, and it'd be great to have it in Ubuntu. Thanks! [08:51] doko: around? Can you look at this calligra no-change rebuild log and tell me if you think it's a gcc-4.8 issue please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5728708/ [08:52] It builds alright with 4.7 === 64MAAD496 is now known as aquarius [09:11] Laney: Can you crank up the verbosity on that and try again? [09:11] Laney: It just shows the command line and exits, that's not helpful. :P [09:12] infinity: look further up, sorry [09:12] it's a parallell build [09:12] line 9291 [09:12] Oh, I missed the earlier exit. It seems to cascade a few times. :/ [09:13] Probably would have been kinder to rebuild it without parallel=9 when sharing the log :P [09:18] Laney: It could be http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=57279 [09:18] gcc.gnu.org bug 57279 in c++ "[C++11] alias declaration fails to declare function types with cv-qualifiers" [Normal,Assigned] [09:18] I did come across that [09:18] didn't seem to be a 4.8.1 package in the usual place that I could test with though [09:18] Or it could be bad C++. My C++ skills aren't stellar. [09:19] Laney: It's not fixed in 4.8.1 anyway, hence the milestone bump to 4.8.2 [09:19] ah, I misunderstand the last comment then [09:19] indeed [09:19] would it be bad to upload a build with 4.7? [09:20] Wouldn't be world-ending, but it would be nice if you also filed a bug in LP, mention that upstream bug that may or may not relate, and keep an eye on things. [09:20] When doko uploads a new gcc-snapshot, that should have the upstream bugfix in it (the current one is three days too old to...) [09:20] right [09:22] This should get us to migrating poppler, AFAICT [09:24] Laney, do you know why update_output.txt lists libreoffice-mysql-connector ? [09:25] seb128: entangled with mysql-connector-c++ [09:25] ah, ok [09:26] Laney, ok, I see they both should be fine with the uploads you did + calligra [09:26] seems fine - the autohinter picks it up if you look near the end of the file === alexlist` is now known as alexlist [09:56] seb128: Laney: i'm looking into gdcm build failure rabbit hole, so far I am down to patching vtk to rebuild against updated python2.7.... [09:56] xnox, did the upload Laney just did failed to build? [09:56] hm. [09:57] seb128: hm. it works. =) oh well, vtk does need rebuilding anyway. [09:58] I did briefly look at new vtk and bashed its rules about a bit [09:58] it assumed python and tcl were in non-multiarch directories [10:00] * xnox suspects my machine is polluted with local builds. [10:01] xnox: http://paste.debian.net/8208 was my WIP before I stopped because mitya57 had a sponsoring request up that didn't need it [10:01] feel free to carry it on [10:04] Laney: so calligra is the last one for poppler to transition?! [10:04] think so [10:04] can someone with core-dev permissions take http://pastebin.com/n1TLE7rU and upload libwps? fixed ftfbs [10:06] hrw: Sure. [10:06] infinity: thx [10:11] pitti: Re the ddebs discussion above, did anyone happen to mention that ddebs doesn't seem to be picking up saucy-proposed? [10:11] i.e. http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/saucy-proposed/main/binary-i386/ has an elderly timestamp [10:12] not to me [10:12] ooh, I know why [10:12] traditionally I have generated the pockets for the devel release once after opening the series only [10:13] * pitti updates cronjobs [10:13] we don't let the LP retracers run against saucy-proposed so far, though [10:14] pitti: Yeah, I was trying to figure out something manually. Thanks [10:14] cjwatson: fixed, thanks [10:14] (I fell back to a local build, successfully) [10:14] (it's currently running, so it'll take some 4 hours to become effective) [10:15] I wish apt-ftparchive wouldn't be so abysmally slow [10:15] Laney: export CPP=gcc-4.7? ITYM CC? [10:15] Laney: Though, I'm sure the CXX export will get what you wanted anyway. [10:15] oops, but yeah [10:16] it was test-built, so that's enough [10:17] (curious that exporting CPP=CC doesn't make something explode, but whatever) === KRF_ is now known as KRF === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk === bradm_ is now known as bradm [10:53] cjwatson: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/saucy-proposed/main/binary-i386/ is current now, FYI [10:53] s/current/up to date/ [10:54] pitti: Great, thanks [10:54] Saucy = 13.10? [10:55] Yes [10:56] Almost out of letters [10:56] unicode has a loooot of letters left :) [10:56] nooo [10:57] lets start with glyphs [10:58] Sargun: We reused our first initial letter five years ago [10:59] But that was a bit of a special case [11:01] Sure, but nevertheless [11:01] It demonstrates that the universe will not end when we reuse a letter [11:29] please could someone with the right permissions [11:29] mark https://code.launchpad.net/~sdeziel/ubuntu/raring/mysql-5.5/fix-for-lp1185573/+merge/166379 [11:29] as merged. === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === debfx_ is now known as debfx [11:38] jamespage: yes, the security team will be doing them (LP: 1184223) [11:38] Launchpad bug 1184223 in openvpn (Ubuntu Raring) "CVE-2013-2061: use of non-constant-time memcmp in HMAC comparison in openvpn_decrypt" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1184223 [11:39] mdeslaur, great - thanks for confirming. [11:39] jamespage: we've rated it as "low" though, so it may take a while [11:40] hrm, since someone has a tree, we'll sponsor that and do the others [11:41] mdeslaur, great - thanks === pete-woods is now known as pete-woods-lunch [11:52] @pilot out === udevbot_ changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Ubuntu 13.04 released | Archive: open | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of lucid -> raring | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: === dholbach_ is now known as dholbacj === dholbacj is now known as dholbach === mmrazik|afk is now known as mmrazik [12:42] infinity: So, I'm getting pretty bored carrying on with merging your generalisation to all arches of the perl = TRUE stuff in r-base (see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=679180). I agree that your version is saner, but it looks like the Debian maintainer ignored it, and since raschsampler appears to build just fine with current r-base on Debian arm* these days, I'm sort of inclined to drop the patch and ... [12:42] Debian bug 679180 in r-base-core "arm* builds fail: SHLIB_LIBADD: No such file or directory" [Serious,Fixed] [12:43] ... call it good. Any thoughts [12:43] ? === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:54] xnox: if you get a chance today could you re-upload sosreport for me? [12:55] ive fixed the non native thing === wedgwood_away is now known as wedgwood === wedgwood is now known as Guest21017 === wedgwood_ is now known as wedgwood === pete-woods-lunch is now known as pete-woods === ara_ is now known as ara [13:45] xnox: thanks man [13:47] stokachu: =) === mitya57_ is now known as mitya57 === Guest49723 is now known as zumbi [15:18] the sgabios package is currently in debian's NEW queue. When it clears, will it be automatically pulled into universe? Or does a switch need to be toggled? [15:19] the wiki has instructions on how to get packages in universe [15:22] hallyn: man requestsync [15:22] mlankhorst: what i saw only said "if you can, get it in through debian' but didn't say how to get it into universe from there [15:23] hrw: ok, thanks. i'm not motu, but if that needs to be done i'll get it done - thanks [15:25] hallyn: it'll be automatic (as in you don't need to ask), but will need an archive-admin to review it [15:25] cool, thanks. Just need to wait on that before qemu 1.5-3 goes into saucy === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [15:34] hallyn: it's automatic [15:34] ah, tumbleweed said [15:34] great - thanks [15:34] if it happens before DebianImportFreeze, it doesn't really require much in the way of archive admin - it goes straight past source NEW (we trust Debian ftpmasters enough for that) and binary NEW is pro-forma [15:53] mfisch, congratulations! :) [15:53] is it normal that launchpad assumes that maintainer==uploader when package is synced from debian? [15:54] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vboot-utils/0~20121212-2 lists Antonio as uploader... [15:55] hrw: yeah, look at publishing history for the details [15:55] the UI never really learned about syncs [15:55] tumbleweed: thanks [16:03] thanks dholbach [16:05] Hey, can someone help me with bzr? [16:07] I have copied a branch into my own bzr branch, changed a couple of files, added a recipe and pushed it into my PPA [16:09] but it only build an i386 build, even though in the control file Architecture: all is specified [16:10] hmm [16:10] Versable: you want Architecture: any [16:10] what's responsible for creating the XDG_RUNTIME_DIR? [16:10] Versable: Architecture: all is for architecture-independant packages [16:11] tumbleweed: Thanks, the package might be architecture independant, I'll check before changing the control file [16:12] some tests in glib now expect to be able to write there but nothing creates it apparently [16:13] tumbleweed: Doh! It was, thanks though ;) [16:13] If it really is architecture-independent, then you would only expect an i386 build (since it builds arch-indep binaries), but it would still publish for all arches === ogra_ is now known as ogra === hatch_ is now known as hatch === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk === greyback is now known as greyback|away === james_ is now known as Guest54452 [19:05] kirkland`: did you say you could verify bug 1173209? [19:05] bug 1173209 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Raring) "Prompted about New Release for 13.04 again after dist-upgrade and a restart" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1173209 === dpm is now known as dpm-afk [20:41] cjwatson: The r-base hack is just a hack anyway, regardless of if it's arch-specific or not, it doesn't fix the real bug, just works around it. [20:42] cjwatson: If the Debian maintainer's hackish workaround works as well as mine, I'm not emotionally attached to mine. [20:49] cjwatson: iz synced now. [21:34] hi there [21:35] infinity: Ta === kentb is now known as kentb-out [23:15] robru: would you have a look at bug 1164302? [23:15] bug 1164302 in webapps-greasemonkey (Ubuntu Quantal) "Firefox crash during gc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1164302