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knightwisemorning TheOpenSourcerer06:48
popeyMorning all06:50
TheOpenSourcerermorning everyone :-D06:50
eonedhii06:55
eonedhow i can record stream with VLC?06:55
directhexeoned, what's the source?07:22
knightwisemorning all07:42
SuperMattmorning07:45
eoneddirecthex, UDP stream07:50
eonedi play it with this command vlc -vvv udp://@239.0.0.1:111107:51
directhexeoned, yeah, i know how to do that in the gui, but not the command line07:54
diploMorning all08:03
kvarley-workPulled hard drives from a server and stuck them in a server that uses the intel 82566dc-2 gigabit ethernet controller and my network doesn't work. I've modprobed e1000e but I still can't see eth0, any ideas?08:03
BigRedSDefine "can't see eth0"; does the kernel see it at all on boot? Presumably you've tried manually configuring it and checking that it's not called eth1 or eth2 thanks to udef?08:04
BigRedS*udev08:04
kvarley-workBigRedS: As in not in ifconfig, doesn't respond to ifup/ifdown commands08:05
kvarley-workThe kernel modules after the manual load aren't used by anything either08:06
BigRedSis it in `ifconfig -a`08:06
kvarley-workBigRedS: Ooops, it's eth108:06
BigRedS:)08:06
kvarley-workBigRedS: Is there a way to make it eth0 again?08:07
BigRedSrm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net-*    and reboot08:07
BigRedSthat'll make udev forget which mac address has eth008:08
BigRedSand so whatever if is found first will become eth0, which should be your intel card08:08
kvarley-workBigRedS: Thank you very much :) It's because it's assigned the old servers controller to eth0 I imagine08:08
BigRedSit happens automagically. I only know this 'cause every time I swap disks in chassis I need to rm the file to make everythign stay working as it should08:09
kvarley-workBigRedS: hehe08:09
kvarley-workBigRedS: Hmmmm "cannot remove" ... "No such file or directory"08:10
kvarley-workOh08:10
kvarley-workJust needed to take the last hyphen off08:10
BigRedSoh, perhaps08:10
BigRedSI always tab my way to it anyway08:10
BigRedSro 70-<tab>per<tab>net<enter>08:11
BigRedSer, rm08:11
kvarley-workI've used linux for years and still rarely use autocomplete haha08:11
BigRedSthat's the wrong sort of lazy :)08:12
shaunotab's evil.  it gets you addicted and then leaves you stranded.  I keep getting confused when I'm writing an email, and tab just inserts tabs.08:12
BigRedShaha, yeah, I need to work out a way of getting paths to auto-complete in vim08:17
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brobostigongood morning everyone08:34
mungbeani've seen clueless guys in unix jobs that tab complete after the first letter and keep going08:36
mungbeancos they don't know the commands08:36
shaunothat's pretty much how I cisco :p08:36
brobostigonoh dear08:36
brobostigonsounds like the mentality of some windows admins i have met.08:38
SuperMattok, weirdness, I upgraded a server to 3.2.0-45-virtual, but every time I reboot, it keeps loading 3.2.0-44-virtual08:38
SuperMattand I've run update-grub08:38
mungbeanis grub configured to run that specific one?08:39
SuperMattnope08:39
SuperMattor at least, I don't think it is08:39
SuperMattI've had a look in the grub.cfg and it's not listed there08:39
mungbeanoh thats more serious08:39
mungbeanboot partition?08:39
SuperMattdoesn't look like I have a separate /boot08:40
eonedhii08:41
eonedsomeone can help me to convert something to commands?08:42
SuperMattdepends what you're trying to do08:43
SuperMattlooks like if I manually run grub-mkconfig it'll be fixed08:46
SuperMattwhy the hell didn't it do that itself?08:46
JamesTaitGood morning all, happy Monday, and happy Leave the Office Early Day! :-D08:46
SuperMattwait, why is that a thing?08:46
SuperMattI need proof!08:46
SuperMattI would just  *love* to leave the office early08:47
DJoneseoned: Explain what you're trying to do and what the end result you want is, if somebody can help, they'll normally jump in08:47
JamesTaitSuperMatt, it is a thing if daysoftheyear.com is to be believed.  I'm yet to find any other supporting evidence, however.08:47
eonedDJones, i need to convet this thing to command for cvlc08:48
eonedMedian>convert/save>Network>put my udp url "udp://@239.0.0.1:1111" > convert/save > apply a file name. and select MPEG2 + MPGA (TS) > start08:48
SuperMattargh! I ran grub-mkconfig and it's STILL the wrong kernel08:48
JamesTaitSuperMatt, on the other hand, Yahoo news has it as June 1st, so maybe we already missed it. ;)08:48
DJoneseoned: Its not something I can help with, but now you've put the question out, hopefully somebody else will be able to help08:49
DJoneseoned: You could also ask in #ubuntu which is the main Ubuntu support channel if there's nobody here who can help08:50
^aDaMMorning :)08:51
^aDaMDo you guys know in 13.04 of Ubuntu Desktop - Can you just download and install Steam via UI? or do I need to do it in Wine like the old days? It's been a while since using Ubuntu, can somebody please help my poor lost soul? :-]08:52
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DJones^aDaM: I'm pretty sure steam is in the repo's now08:59
BigRedSYou can definitely download a native deb from valve08:59
DJones^aDaM: http://www.dedoimedo.com/games/steam-ubuntu-ringtail.html09:00
DJonesYou have to be signed in to an Ubuntu One account apparantly09:00
knightwise42_Daflo09:24
mungbeannice password09:25
knightwisenaah , its a nick09:25
mungbean:P09:25
BigRedSyeah, yeah09:25
knightwisebut he isnt here09:25
knightwiseW3@llL1v3in@YellowSBMaRine09:25
knightwisethats a password09:25
BigRedSThat's my email address!09:26
knightwiseLol09:26
DJonesI like the look of the Asus Memo HD thats been announced, $149 for a 16Gb model, aimed at replacing the N709:26
BigRedSAnyone know if there are any dumbphones running Android? I want to get my Android contacts syncing on something with a many-day battery life...09:28
DJonesI wonder whether it would be suitable for Ubuntu touch09:29
DJonesBigRedS: Probably not, Facebook pulled the launch of their phone :)09:30
^aDaM<DJones> ^aDaM: http://www.dedoimedo.com/games/steam-ubuntu-ringtail.html09:34
^aDaM<DJones> You have to be signed in to an Ubuntu One account apparantly09:34
^aDaMThanks DJones !!09:34
BigRedSAh yeah, I'd forgotten about that 'project'09:35
MooDoohelo all09:42
brobostigonmornings MooDoo09:45
BigRedSAnyone know of an offline HTML5 validator? So I can easily test sites I'm running on the localhost?09:48
SuperMattnope nope09:50
BigRedS:(09:50
mgdmBigRedS: if you're using the 'web developer toolbar' in Chrome/Chromium or Firefox, it can validate HTML from localhost - it sends it as an HTTP POST09:51
mgdmit's got an option called 'Validate local HTML"09:52
BigRedSdoes it validate HTML5 specifically?09:56
BigRedSI'm asking for someone else, so I can't reliably verify myself whether it does :)09:56
mgdmBigRedS: well, it looks at the doctype to work out what it's meant to be doing - so if you have an HTML5 doctype, you're sorted10:01
davmor2Morning all10:02
BigRedSoh, cool10:03
BigRedSta!10:03
MooDoomorning davmor210:03
davmor2MooDoo: me owld mucka how am ya10:03
MooDoodavmor2: aye not three bad10:03
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MartijnVdShttp://i.imgur.com/R5CYFSD.png12:16
diploheh12:17
dwatkinssad but true, although in fairness, we still seem to be stuck half-way between imperial and metric in the UK.12:26
shaunoit's pretty much metric unless you're drinking or driving now, no ?12:27
dwatkinspitch of the pins on a circuitboard: 1/10 inch12:28
shaunofrom a distance, at least.  last time I lived in the UK they were still un an uproar about straight bananas12:28
dwatkinsdistances written on railway bridges: chains and miles12:28
Myrttieven in US cosmetics etc are actually sold my ml12:29
dwatkinssizes of monitors: inches12:29
dwatkins(although most of the world probably uses inches for monitors)12:29
shaunothat seems to be quite recent Myrtti.  Doesn't help that it's difficult to smuggle them through an airport without the size marked in ml though12:30
shaunoremind me, hit an odd one in an airport .. how are you supposed to know if 250g of cheese is ±100ml.  or even needs to be.  kinda daft12:31
Myrttihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrication_in_the_United_States <-- read it some time ago12:32
BigRedSshauno: archimedes principle12:37
BigRedSwait, no that's not it. That's mass12:38
BigRedSthe one about volume. Does it even have a name?12:38
BigRedSEureka?12:38
shaunoI don't recall them having a displacement tank handy12:38
BigRedSAh, and you'd not be permitted to take your own one airside, either12:40
dwatkinsis cheese porus, though?12:40
shaunoI'm more curious what they thought I was going to do with it :/12:41
hd5770!usb12:42
lubotu3For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent12:42
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mungbeanwhat's the best synergy type software nowadays? synergy-plus?14:49
Darael!best | mungbean: automatic response14:51
lubotu3mungbean: automatic response: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.14:51
mungbeanin the case of synergy applications, i think there is a best14:52
mungbeanbecause the others stopped developing14:52
BigRedSthere's more than one synergy?15:00
mungbeansynergy stopped devving , then synergy plus was released, then i got confused15:01
mungbeanseems the project is called synergy again15:01
mungbeanand is active15:01
BigRedSoh, right. I stopped paying attention about four years ago when I repleaced a few rubbish computers with one good one :)15:05
BigRedSbut I've recommended "synergy" to several people since15:05
diddledanafaik synergy is pretty much the only one there is - ignoring that there's a synergy+ fork that got merged back and forth a few times15:24
mungbeannot working for me :(15:25
mungbeanmight be my dual screen setup15:25
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mungbeanneeded desktop(legacy) mode15:32
ceaseis this uk?16:04
DJonesYes it is16:07
ceasehm16:07
ceaseno16:07
ceasedjones are you a dj for ubuntu?16:11
ceasecan you scratch like the little bitch you are?16:11
MartijnVdSDJ ones! ;)16:11
MartijnVdSyou should see him together with MC zeroes16:12
ceasemartijn16:12
DJonescease: Mind your language16:12
ceaseDjones i am not the one whos claiming to be an Ibiza dj, you little hoe.16:13
MartijnVdS!mods16:13
MartijnVdS!ops16:13
lubotu3Help!  dgjones, Myrtti, Mez, AlanBell, popey, Gary, Seeker`, Daviey, PriceChild or X3N16:13
ceasebitch16:13
MartijnVdSI think he ran out of words in his vocabulary16:13
DJonesProbably after 'a'16:14
MartijnVdSDJones: nah, he used a word starting with 'b'16:14
DJonesYeah, but they probablt meant to spell it 'dog'16:14
MartijnVdSaanyway..16:15
* MartijnVdS is going to afk a bit.. move some components from one PC to another, fresh, shiny one16:15
fluidshi16:39
fluidsis it true that you need to shag your daughter, before you claim your UK citizenship?16:40
fluidsi heard UK is full with inbreds and people with bad teeth, pale skin, and shitty english accent. also faggoty voice.16:40
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directhexhm, bored swede16:42
directhexi thought swedes had better things to do16:42
Laneyoh man, burned on the accent /and/ the voice :(16:43
exatssslnIGGERS16:43
mgdmbased on the pale skin comment you might well get burned by the sun, too16:43
exatssslNIGGERS16:43
exatssslUK BASTARDS16:43
exatssslUK FAGGOTS16:43
exatssslNIGGERS16:43
exatssslNIGGERS16:43
exatssslNIGGERS16:43
exatssslNIGGERS16:43
ronizcalm it16:43
exatssslNIGGERS16:43
exatssslNIGGERS16:43
mgdmDJones: a ban on the web gateway from any IP for a while might be useful?16:44
DJonesI'd rather not do that unless necessary16:45
bigcalmGood afternoon peeps :)16:53
brobostigonafternoonings bigcalm16:53
christelbigcalm \o/16:53
directhexi'd support a vote to ban all web gateways forever16:53
brobostigonafternoonings christel16:53
directhexi don't think there's a single documented case anywhere on a major irc network of them being a good thing16:53
* bigcalm hugs christel hello :)16:54
DJonesdirecthex: +116:54
* DJones blames christel 16:54
bigcalmDJones: but she isn't Canadian, you can't blame her16:54
christelhullu brobostigon! :)16:55
DJonesbigcalm: Heh, I guess that sounds a reasonable excuse16:55
brobostigonchristel: :)16:55
bigcalmI need to make a phone call. My connection may drop16:56
DJonesbigcalm: Don't tell Hayley that you're multi-tasking (IRC + phone) you don't want to set the standard too early16:57
bigcalm!ding16:58
lubotu3dong16:58
bigcalmStill connected, yay16:58
bigcalmDJones: that was about the limit of my abilities16:59
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DJonesHmmh, wierd 'fact' of the day - You can legally marry a dead person in France... http://www.chacha.com/gallery/4443/funny-french-laws17:10
MartijnVdSDJones: but they had trouble with gay people marrying?!17:10
DJonesMartijnVdS: Probably less trouble than in the uk17:10
MartijnVdSDJones: you and your silly lords17:11
DJonesHeh17:11
bigcalmDid the bill not make it passed the house of lords?17:12
MartijnVdSbigcalm: I think there's a public lobbying campaign17:12
DJonesbigcalm: Still ongoing17:13
bigcalmMartijnVdS: it is likely that you know more about things going on in the UK than I do :)17:13
MartijnVdSbigcalm: I skimmed guardian.co.uk this afternoon, looking for something else17:13
MartijnVdSbut I can't forget things I've read 8-)17:14
bigcalmYou must have done very well in your exams17:14
MartijnVdSthose were AGES ago though :)17:15
Laneyoh god, I tuned into the lords debate17:22
* DJones Erk. 8 kids stood outside my gate talking to & stroking my dog, I think I'm going to start charging admission charges17:25
MartijnVdSDJones: install a speaker, play dalek sounds over them17:28
DJonesNah, don't want to scare them17:29
DJonesI think every kid between about 5 and 14 makes trips to see the dog17:30
DJonesAt least thats what it feels like, he gets mobbed every time I take him for a walk17:30
demonoid_meHello i need help for register LoCo Team for my country17:31
demonoid_me:)17:31
DJonesProbably the best channel to ask about that would be either #ubuntu-irc or #ubuntu-locoteams17:32
DJonesProbably #ubuntu-locoteams will be the best one, but you'll need to be patient for somebody to get back to you17:33
demonoid_meDJones: yes 10x :)17:38
diploHmm do-release-upgrade over ssh... hope it works!17:58
diplo:)17:58
DJonesdiplo: I was looking at doing that the other day & it brought up a warning about not upgrading over SSH18:05
diploheh yep it sure did DJones :P18:22
diploI don't have a keyboard or screen spare, so hope it goes ok and fix it if it breaks18:22
diploWarning was for network connectivity i think and it should be fine :)18:23
diploReboot time..20:00
* diplo crosses fingers20:00
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diplohah, eventually came back up to find 11.10 is EOL as well :/20:10
DJonesHeh20:12
diploNext upgrade, well this needed doing a long long time ago20:12
diploReally want to reinstall, must order new credit card so I can upgrade :P20:13
diploAll this so I can write a python script tonight , quiet in here20:15
mungbeanquiet indeed20:17
diploRight all packages got for the 2nd time, now to wait for them to install20:20
diploBit worrying, it's asking to set root password on mysql :P20:21
MartijnVdSwow.. new case + cpu + everything = QUIET20:42
MartijnVdS\o/20:42
diploNot had a new PC in years :(20:49
diploWill treat myself in a few months I think, once other bills are all paid off20:49
mungbeanjust bought an epic toy for my kid tonight..looking forward to playing with it :P20:51
diploheh the joys of parent hood20:51
diplo:)20:51
mungbeanthe bonus of having a boychild20:51
mungbeanhe's a bit young to play with it yet tho :(20:51
mungbeanits a massive pirate ship thing20:51
mungbeanhttp://www.toymania.com/news/messages/6325.shtml20:52
mungbeanrather large20:52
diploI have 2 boys, getting more into computers / tech now though20:52
mungbeangotta keep up the "normal" hobbies/play too though it must be hard20:53
mungbeani loved computers as a boy20:53
mungbeani would be well into minecraft etc20:53
diploYeah, I don't let them do to much.. we go outside a lot when it's nice, taught them both to ride and swim20:53
diploGoing for our first proper bike ride next weekend as long as this weather stays20:54
mungbeanmy boy is a bit pasty skinned20:54
mungbeanneed plenty noyice to leave the house!20:54
diploheh, my kids love it outdoors, the gruffalo woods is their favourite20:56
directhexnathan hates the sun in his face20:56
directhexand isn't big on grass20:56
diploYoung directhex ?20:58
mungbeangruffalo woods?20:58
MartijnVdSdiplo: directoct 8-)20:58
mungbean one thing i won't understand about teenagers: screamo20:58
diploPlace called Shearwater near longleat safari park20:59
diploKids love it, they called it that20:59
MartijnVdSmungbean: teenagers? it was a thing 10 years ago.. so 20-somethings by now, I hope?20:59
mungbeanstill going though, dunno if it has a new name20:59
MartijnVdS"Screamo is a post-hardcore-influenced subgenre of emo that predominantly evolved from emo"21:00
mungbeanhttp://www.iheartdropdead.com/blog/all-we-have-balance-and-meaning-exclusive-ep-stream/#.Ua0DH2Kvfid21:00
mungbeanthis stuff21:00
mungbeanchoose any track 3, 4, 521:00
mungbeanat any point its just screamy21:00
diploWell second reboot after upgrade = a lot smoother21:00
MartijnVdSmungbean: *shudder*21:00
mungbeanthought i would listen as its a family member21:00
* MartijnVdS prefers less screamy music21:01
MartijnVdSZzz!21:01
mungbeanwe are old though21:02
mungbeantalking of which, time for a snooze21:02
* MartijnVdS still buys new music a lot though21:02
MartijnVdSjust not THAT kind ;)21:02
Azelphurwas just looking at this, http://www.uk-automation.co.uk/products/X10-Wall-Dimmer-Switch.html I notice it says it only works with 60-300w incandescent lamps, isn't that the type of bulb that is banned from sale here?23:01
ali1234yes23:02
Azelphurkinda makes that device a little pointless then? XD23:02
ali1234it will probably work with halogens23:02
ali1234but dimmers do not work with CFL23:02
AzelphurI see23:02
Azelphurdoes it have to be a 60+w one?23:03
ali1234i dunno23:04
diploNeed special dimmer for halogens as well23:09
diploWill work, as do CFL's but they break :)23:09
diploThis unit must NOT be used with Low Voltage Halogens, "Energy Saving" lamps, or Flourescent lights. Doing so will cause the unit to fail beyond repair.23:10
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diploSo could use with GU10 style bulbs23:11
diploAnyhoo, off to bed. GN all23:11
redtape|renegadeali1234, I have a CPU fan error on my startup screen .. even though everything is connected and the fan is wir~ring away .. I was just about to buy a new one , but what do you think I should do . Because I can't even get to the start-up screen ?23:13
ali1234check that the fan is plugged into the correct motherboard header23:14
redtape|renegadeok .. hang-on ..23:14
redtape|renegadeyes .. it is labelled .. "cpu fan "..23:15
redtape|renegadeI tried another fan .. & it still comes up with the same error .. ali1234 ?23:16
ali1234well, make sure you use one with sense output23:17
redtape|renegadeis that the difference between 3 pins and four pins (connector 2 mo.board) .. because this is an old computer (2008) and I only have 3 pins ..23:18
* redtape|renegade notes that his higher-end other computer has 4 pins on his CPU fan ..23:19
redtape|renegadeali1234, Perhaps I need to re-paste the CPU ?23:20
ali1234i doubt it23:20
redtape|renegademe too..23:20
ali1234unless you removed the heatsink23:20
redtape|renegadeno.23:20
redtape|renegadedo think it is just a critical failure ?23:20
ali1234i couldn't possibly say23:21
redtape|renegadeit's a strange one .. I've never seen it before .. ?23:22
redtape|renegadeali1234, How do I get help with this ? Who do I ask ?23:26
ali1234you just have to figure it out.....23:29
ali1234you should check fan speed and cpu temp in the bios23:30
redtape|renegadeok .. will do .. thank-you..23:30
directhexredtape|renegade, the yellow wire reports the fan speed to the motherboard23:30
directhexor the green wire, on 4-pin connectors23:32
redtape|renegadedirecthex: Yeah, I just have 3 pin so i dunno if that makes much diference . Either it worx or it doesn't and I've tried 2 80mm fans .. Do you think this would work better ? http://bit.ly/12qbNw723:37
redtape|renegadeAlthough their feedback is a bit grim .. http://bit.ly/13hhg5023:39

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