[06:48] <knightwise> morning TheOpenSourcerer
[06:50] <popey> Morning all
[06:50] <TheOpenSourcerer> morning everyone :-D
[06:55] <eoned> hii
[06:55] <eoned> how i can record stream with VLC?
[07:22] <directhex> eoned, what's the source?
[07:42] <knightwise> morning all
[07:45] <SuperMatt> morning
[07:50] <eoned> directhex, UDP stream
[07:51] <eoned> i play it with this command vlc -vvv udp://@239.0.0.1:1111
[07:54] <directhex> eoned, yeah, i know how to do that in the gui, but not the command line
[08:03] <diplo> Morning all
[08:03] <kvarley-work> Pulled hard drives from a server and stuck them in a server that uses the intel 82566dc-2 gigabit ethernet controller and my network doesn't work. I've modprobed e1000e but I still can't see eth0, any ideas?
[08:04] <BigRedS> Define "can't see eth0"; does the kernel see it at all on boot? Presumably you've tried manually configuring it and checking that it's not called eth1 or eth2 thanks to udef?
[08:04] <BigRedS> *udev
[08:05] <kvarley-work> BigRedS: As in not in ifconfig, doesn't respond to ifup/ifdown commands
[08:06] <kvarley-work> The kernel modules after the manual load aren't used by anything either
[08:06] <BigRedS> is it in `ifconfig -a`
[08:06] <kvarley-work> BigRedS: Ooops, it's eth1
[08:06] <BigRedS> :)
[08:07] <kvarley-work> BigRedS: Is there a way to make it eth0 again?
[08:07] <BigRedS> rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net-*    and reboot
[08:08] <BigRedS> that'll make udev forget which mac address has eth0
[08:08] <BigRedS> and so whatever if is found first will become eth0, which should be your intel card
[08:08] <kvarley-work> BigRedS: Thank you very much :) It's because it's assigned the old servers controller to eth0 I imagine
[08:09] <BigRedS> it happens automagically. I only know this 'cause every time I swap disks in chassis I need to rm the file to make everythign stay working as it should
[08:09] <kvarley-work> BigRedS: hehe
[08:10] <kvarley-work> BigRedS: Hmmmm "cannot remove" ... "No such file or directory"
[08:10] <kvarley-work> Oh
[08:10] <kvarley-work> Just needed to take the last hyphen off
[08:10] <BigRedS> oh, perhaps
[08:10] <BigRedS> I always tab my way to it anyway
[08:11] <BigRedS> ro 70-<tab>per<tab>net<enter>
[08:11] <BigRedS> er, rm
[08:11] <kvarley-work> I've used linux for years and still rarely use autocomplete haha
[08:12] <BigRedS> that's the wrong sort of lazy :)
[08:12] <shauno> tab's evil.  it gets you addicted and then leaves you stranded.  I keep getting confused when I'm writing an email, and tab just inserts tabs.
[08:17] <BigRedS> haha, yeah, I need to work out a way of getting paths to auto-complete in vim
[08:34] <brobostigon> good morning everyone
[08:36] <mungbean> i've seen clueless guys in unix jobs that tab complete after the first letter and keep going
[08:36] <mungbean> cos they don't know the commands
[08:36] <shauno> that's pretty much how I cisco :p
[08:36] <brobostigon> oh dear
[08:38] <brobostigon> sounds like the mentality of some windows admins i have met.
[08:38] <SuperMatt> ok, weirdness, I upgraded a server to 3.2.0-45-virtual, but every time I reboot, it keeps loading 3.2.0-44-virtual
[08:38] <SuperMatt> and I've run update-grub
[08:39] <mungbean> is grub configured to run that specific one?
[08:39] <SuperMatt> nope
[08:39] <SuperMatt> or at least, I don't think it is
[08:39] <SuperMatt> I've had a look in the grub.cfg and it's not listed there
[08:39] <mungbean> oh thats more serious
[08:39] <mungbean> boot partition?
[08:40] <SuperMatt> doesn't look like I have a separate /boot
[08:41] <eoned> hii
[08:42] <eoned> someone can help me to convert something to commands?
[08:43] <SuperMatt> depends what you're trying to do
[08:46] <SuperMatt> looks like if I manually run grub-mkconfig it'll be fixed
[08:46] <SuperMatt> why the hell didn't it do that itself?
[08:46] <JamesTait> Good morning all, happy Monday, and happy Leave the Office Early Day! :-D
[08:46] <SuperMatt> wait, why is that a thing?
[08:46] <SuperMatt> I need proof!
[08:47] <SuperMatt> I would just  *love* to leave the office early
[08:47] <DJones> eoned: Explain what you're trying to do and what the end result you want is, if somebody can help, they'll normally jump in
[08:47] <JamesTait> SuperMatt, it is a thing if daysoftheyear.com is to be believed.  I'm yet to find any other supporting evidence, however.
[08:48] <eoned> DJones, i need to convet this thing to command for cvlc
[08:48] <eoned> Median>convert/save>Network>put my udp url "udp://@239.0.0.1:1111" > convert/save > apply a file name. and select MPEG2 + MPGA (TS) > start
[08:48] <SuperMatt> argh! I ran grub-mkconfig and it's STILL the wrong kernel
[08:48] <JamesTait> SuperMatt, on the other hand, Yahoo news has it as June 1st, so maybe we already missed it. ;)
[08:49] <DJones> eoned: Its not something I can help with, but now you've put the question out, hopefully somebody else will be able to help
[08:50] <DJones> eoned: You could also ask in #ubuntu which is the main Ubuntu support channel if there's nobody here who can help
[08:51] <^aDaM> Morning :)
[08:52] <^aDaM> Do you guys know in 13.04 of Ubuntu Desktop - Can you just download and install Steam via UI? or do I need to do it in Wine like the old days? It's been a while since using Ubuntu, can somebody please help my poor lost soul? :-]
[08:59] <DJones> ^aDaM: I'm pretty sure steam is in the repo's now
[08:59] <BigRedS> You can definitely download a native deb from valve
[09:00] <DJones> ^aDaM: http://www.dedoimedo.com/games/steam-ubuntu-ringtail.html
[09:00] <DJones> You have to be signed in to an Ubuntu One account apparantly
[09:24] <knightwise> 42_Daflo
[09:25] <mungbean> nice password
[09:25] <knightwise> naah , its a nick
[09:25] <mungbean> :P
[09:25] <BigRedS> yeah, yeah
[09:25] <knightwise> but he isnt here
[09:25] <knightwise> W3@llL1v3in@YellowSBMaRine
[09:25] <knightwise> thats a password
[09:26] <BigRedS> That's my email address!
[09:26] <knightwise> Lol
[09:26] <DJones> I like the look of the Asus Memo HD thats been announced, $149 for a 16Gb model, aimed at replacing the N7
[09:28] <BigRedS> Anyone know if there are any dumbphones running Android? I want to get my Android contacts syncing on something with a many-day battery life...
[09:29] <DJones> I wonder whether it would be suitable for Ubuntu touch
[09:30] <DJones> BigRedS: Probably not, Facebook pulled the launch of their phone :)
 ^aDaM: http://www.dedoimedo.com/games/steam-ubuntu-ringtail.html
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[09:34] <^aDaM> Thanks DJones !!
[09:35] <BigRedS> Ah yeah, I'd forgotten about that 'project'
[09:42] <MooDoo> helo all
[09:45] <brobostigon> mornings MooDoo
[09:48] <BigRedS> Anyone know of an offline HTML5 validator? So I can easily test sites I'm running on the localhost?
[09:50] <SuperMatt> nope nope
[09:50] <BigRedS> :(
[09:51] <mgdm> BigRedS: if you're using the 'web developer toolbar' in Chrome/Chromium or Firefox, it can validate HTML from localhost - it sends it as an HTTP POST
[09:52] <mgdm> it's got an option called 'Validate local HTML"
[09:56] <BigRedS> does it validate HTML5 specifically?
[09:56] <BigRedS> I'm asking for someone else, so I can't reliably verify myself whether it does :)
[10:01] <mgdm> BigRedS: well, it looks at the doctype to work out what it's meant to be doing - so if you have an HTML5 doctype, you're sorted
[10:02] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:03] <BigRedS> oh, cool
[10:03] <BigRedS> ta!
[10:03] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[10:03] <davmor2> MooDoo: me owld mucka how am ya
[10:03] <MooDoo> davmor2: aye not three bad
[12:16] <MartijnVdS> http://i.imgur.com/R5CYFSD.png
[12:17] <diplo> heh
[12:26] <dwatkins> sad but true, although in fairness, we still seem to be stuck half-way between imperial and metric in the UK.
[12:27] <shauno> it's pretty much metric unless you're drinking or driving now, no ?
[12:28] <dwatkins> pitch of the pins on a circuitboard: 1/10 inch
[12:28] <shauno> from a distance, at least.  last time I lived in the UK they were still un an uproar about straight bananas
[12:28] <dwatkins> distances written on railway bridges: chains and miles
[12:29] <Myrtti> even in US cosmetics etc are actually sold my ml
[12:29] <dwatkins> sizes of monitors: inches
[12:29] <dwatkins> (although most of the world probably uses inches for monitors)
[12:30] <shauno> that seems to be quite recent Myrtti.  Doesn't help that it's difficult to smuggle them through an airport without the size marked in ml though
[12:31] <shauno> remind me, hit an odd one in an airport .. how are you supposed to know if 250g of cheese is ±100ml.  or even needs to be.  kinda daft
[12:32] <Myrtti> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrication_in_the_United_States <-- read it some time ago
[12:37] <BigRedS> shauno: archimedes principle
[12:38] <BigRedS> wait, no that's not it. That's mass
[12:38] <BigRedS> the one about volume. Does it even have a name?
[12:38] <BigRedS> Eureka?
[12:38] <shauno> I don't recall them having a displacement tank handy
[12:40] <BigRedS> Ah, and you'd not be permitted to take your own one airside, either
[12:40] <dwatkins> is cheese porus, though?
[12:41] <shauno> I'm more curious what they thought I was going to do with it :/
[12:42] <hd5770> !usb
[14:49] <mungbean> what's the best synergy type software nowadays? synergy-plus?
[14:51] <Darael> !best | mungbean: automatic response
[14:52] <mungbean> in the case of synergy applications, i think there is a best
[14:52] <mungbean> because the others stopped developing
[15:00] <BigRedS> there's more than one synergy?
[15:01] <mungbean> synergy stopped devving , then synergy plus was released, then i got confused
[15:01] <mungbean> seems the project is called synergy again
[15:01] <mungbean> and is active
[15:05] <BigRedS> oh, right. I stopped paying attention about four years ago when I repleaced a few rubbish computers with one good one :)
[15:05] <BigRedS> but I've recommended "synergy" to several people since
[15:24] <diddledan> afaik synergy is pretty much the only one there is - ignoring that there's a synergy+ fork that got merged back and forth a few times
[15:25] <mungbean> not working for me :(
[15:25] <mungbean> might be my dual screen setup
[15:32] <mungbean> needed desktop(legacy) mode
[16:04] <cease> is this uk?
[16:07] <DJones> Yes it is
[16:07] <cease> hm
[16:07] <cease> no
[16:11] <cease> djones are you a dj for ubuntu?
[16:11] <cease> can you scratch like the little bitch you are?
[16:11] <MartijnVdS> DJ ones! ;)
[16:12] <MartijnVdS> you should see him together with MC zeroes
[16:12] <cease> martijn
[16:12] <DJones> cease: Mind your language
[16:13] <cease> Djones i am not the one whos claiming to be an Ibiza dj, you little hoe.
[16:13] <MartijnVdS> !mods
[16:13] <MartijnVdS> !ops
[16:13] <cease> bitch
[16:13] <MartijnVdS> I think he ran out of words in his vocabulary
[16:14] <DJones> Probably after 'a'
[16:14] <MartijnVdS> DJones: nah, he used a word starting with 'b'
[16:14] <DJones> Yeah, but they probablt meant to spell it 'dog'
[16:15] <MartijnVdS> aanyway..
[16:15]  * MartijnVdS is going to afk a bit.. move some components from one PC to another, fresh, shiny one
[16:39] <fluids> hi
[16:40] <fluids> is it true that you need to shag your daughter, before you claim your UK citizenship?
[16:40] <fluids> i heard UK is full with inbreds and people with bad teeth, pale skin, and shitty english accent. also faggoty voice.
[16:42] <directhex> hm, bored swede
[16:42] <directhex> i thought swedes had better things to do
[16:43] <Laney> oh man, burned on the accent /and/ the voice :(
[16:43] <exatsssl> nIGGERS
[16:43] <mgdm> based on the pale skin comment you might well get burned by the sun, too
[16:43] <exatsssl> NIGGERS
[16:43] <exatsssl> UK BASTARDS
[16:43] <exatsssl> UK FAGGOTS
[16:43] <exatsssl> NIGGERS
[16:43] <exatsssl> NIGGERS
[16:43] <exatsssl> NIGGERS
[16:43] <exatsssl> NIGGERS
[16:43] <roniz> calm it
[16:43] <exatsssl> NIGGERS
[16:43] <exatsssl> NIGGERS
[16:44] <mgdm> DJones: a ban on the web gateway from any IP for a while might be useful?
[16:45] <DJones> I'd rather not do that unless necessary
[16:53] <bigcalm> Good afternoon peeps :)
[16:53] <brobostigon> afternoonings bigcalm
[16:53] <christel> bigcalm \o/
[16:53] <directhex> i'd support a vote to ban all web gateways forever
[16:53] <brobostigon> afternoonings christel
[16:53] <directhex> i don't think there's a single documented case anywhere on a major irc network of them being a good thing
[16:54]  * bigcalm hugs christel hello :)
[16:54] <DJones> directhex: +1
[16:54]  * DJones blames christel 
[16:54] <bigcalm> DJones: but she isn't Canadian, you can't blame her
[16:55] <christel> hullu brobostigon! :)
[16:55] <DJones> bigcalm: Heh, I guess that sounds a reasonable excuse
[16:55] <brobostigon> christel: :)
[16:56] <bigcalm> I need to make a phone call. My connection may drop
[16:57] <DJones> bigcalm: Don't tell Hayley that you're multi-tasking (IRC + phone) you don't want to set the standard too early
[16:58] <bigcalm> !ding
[16:58] <bigcalm> Still connected, yay
[16:59] <bigcalm> DJones: that was about the limit of my abilities
[17:10] <DJones> Hmmh, wierd 'fact' of the day - You can legally marry a dead person in France... http://www.chacha.com/gallery/4443/funny-french-laws
[17:10] <MartijnVdS> DJones: but they had trouble with gay people marrying?!
[17:10] <DJones> MartijnVdS: Probably less trouble than in the uk
[17:11] <MartijnVdS> DJones: you and your silly lords
[17:11] <DJones> Heh
[17:12] <bigcalm> Did the bill not make it passed the house of lords?
[17:12] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: I think there's a public lobbying campaign
[17:13] <DJones> bigcalm: Still ongoing
[17:13] <bigcalm> MartijnVdS: it is likely that you know more about things going on in the UK than I do :)
[17:13] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: I skimmed guardian.co.uk this afternoon, looking for something else
[17:14] <MartijnVdS> but I can't forget things I've read 8-)
[17:14] <bigcalm> You must have done very well in your exams
[17:15] <MartijnVdS> those were AGES ago though :)
[17:22] <Laney> oh god, I tuned into the lords debate
[17:25]  * DJones Erk. 8 kids stood outside my gate talking to & stroking my dog, I think I'm going to start charging admission charges
[17:28] <MartijnVdS> DJones: install a speaker, play dalek sounds over them
[17:29] <DJones> Nah, don't want to scare them
[17:30] <DJones> I think every kid between about 5 and 14 makes trips to see the dog
[17:30] <DJones> At least thats what it feels like, he gets mobbed every time I take him for a walk
[17:31] <demonoid_me> Hello i need help for register LoCo Team for my country
[17:31] <demonoid_me> :)
[17:32] <DJones> Probably the best channel to ask about that would be either #ubuntu-irc or #ubuntu-locoteams
[17:33] <DJones> Probably #ubuntu-locoteams will be the best one, but you'll need to be patient for somebody to get back to you
[17:38] <demonoid_me> DJones: yes 10x :)
[17:58] <diplo> Hmm do-release-upgrade over ssh... hope it works!
[17:58] <diplo> :)
[18:05] <DJones> diplo: I was looking at doing that the other day & it brought up a warning about not upgrading over SSH
[18:22] <diplo> heh yep it sure did DJones :P
[18:22] <diplo> I don't have a keyboard or screen spare, so hope it goes ok and fix it if it breaks
[18:23] <diplo> Warning was for network connectivity i think and it should be fine :)
[20:00] <diplo> Reboot time..
[20:00]  * diplo crosses fingers
[20:10] <diplo> hah, eventually came back up to find 11.10 is EOL as well :/
[20:12] <DJones> Heh
[20:12] <diplo> Next upgrade, well this needed doing a long long time ago
[20:13] <diplo> Really want to reinstall, must order new credit card so I can upgrade :P
[20:15] <diplo> All this so I can write a python script tonight , quiet in here
[20:17] <mungbean> quiet indeed
[20:20] <diplo> Right all packages got for the 2nd time, now to wait for them to install
[20:21] <diplo> Bit worrying, it's asking to set root password on mysql :P
[20:42] <MartijnVdS> wow.. new case + cpu + everything = QUIET
[20:42] <MartijnVdS> \o/
[20:49] <diplo> Not had a new PC in years :(
[20:49] <diplo> Will treat myself in a few months I think, once other bills are all paid off
[20:51] <mungbean> just bought an epic toy for my kid tonight..looking forward to playing with it :P
[20:51] <diplo> heh the joys of parent hood
[20:51] <diplo> :)
[20:51] <mungbean> the bonus of having a boychild
[20:51] <mungbean> he's a bit young to play with it yet tho :(
[20:51] <mungbean> its a massive pirate ship thing
[20:52] <mungbean> http://www.toymania.com/news/messages/6325.shtml
[20:52] <mungbean> rather large
[20:52] <diplo> I have 2 boys, getting more into computers / tech now though
[20:53] <mungbean> gotta keep up the "normal" hobbies/play too though it must be hard
[20:53] <mungbean> i loved computers as a boy
[20:53] <mungbean> i would be well into minecraft etc
[20:53] <diplo> Yeah, I don't let them do to much.. we go outside a lot when it's nice, taught them both to ride and swim
[20:54] <diplo> Going for our first proper bike ride next weekend as long as this weather stays
[20:54] <mungbean> my boy is a bit pasty skinned
[20:54] <mungbean> need plenty noyice to leave the house!
[20:56] <diplo> heh, my kids love it outdoors, the gruffalo woods is their favourite
[20:56] <directhex> nathan hates the sun in his face
[20:56] <directhex> and isn't big on grass
[20:58] <diplo> Young directhex ?
[20:58] <mungbean> gruffalo woods?
[20:58] <MartijnVdS> diplo: directoct 8-)
[20:58] <mungbean>  one thing i won't understand about teenagers: screamo
[20:59] <diplo> Place called Shearwater near longleat safari park
[20:59] <diplo> Kids love it, they called it that
[20:59] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: teenagers? it was a thing 10 years ago.. so 20-somethings by now, I hope?
[20:59] <mungbean> still going though, dunno if it has a new name
[21:00] <MartijnVdS> "Screamo is a post-hardcore-influenced subgenre of emo that predominantly evolved from emo"
[21:00] <mungbean> http://www.iheartdropdead.com/blog/all-we-have-balance-and-meaning-exclusive-ep-stream/#.Ua0DH2Kvfid
[21:00] <mungbean> this stuff
[21:00] <mungbean> choose any track 3, 4, 5
[21:00] <mungbean> at any point its just screamy
[21:00] <diplo> Well second reboot after upgrade = a lot smoother
[21:00] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: *shudder*
[21:00] <mungbean> thought i would listen as its a family member
[21:01]  * MartijnVdS prefers less screamy music
[21:01] <MartijnVdS> Zzz!
[21:02] <mungbean> we are old though
[21:02] <mungbean> talking of which, time for a snooze
[21:02]  * MartijnVdS still buys new music a lot though
[21:02] <MartijnVdS> just not THAT kind ;)
[23:01] <Azelphur> was just looking at this, http://www.uk-automation.co.uk/products/X10-Wall-Dimmer-Switch.html I notice it says it only works with 60-300w incandescent lamps, isn't that the type of bulb that is banned from sale here?
[23:02] <ali1234> yes
[23:02] <Azelphur> kinda makes that device a little pointless then? XD
[23:02] <ali1234> it will probably work with halogens
[23:02] <ali1234> but dimmers do not work with CFL
[23:02] <Azelphur> I see
[23:03] <Azelphur> does it have to be a 60+w one?
[23:04] <ali1234> i dunno
[23:09] <diplo> Need special dimmer for halogens as well
[23:09] <diplo> Will work, as do CFL's but they break :)
[23:10] <diplo> This unit must NOT be used with Low Voltage Halogens, "Energy Saving" lamps, or Flourescent lights. Doing so will cause the unit to fail beyond repair.
[23:11] <diplo> So could use with GU10 style bulbs
[23:11] <diplo> Anyhoo, off to bed. GN all
[23:13] <redtape|renegade> ali1234, I have a CPU fan error on my startup screen .. even though everything is connected and the fan is wir~ring away .. I was just about to buy a new one , but what do you think I should do . Because I can't even get to the start-up screen ?
[23:14] <ali1234> check that the fan is plugged into the correct motherboard header
[23:14] <redtape|renegade> ok .. hang-on ..
[23:15] <redtape|renegade> yes .. it is labelled .. "cpu fan "..
[23:16] <redtape|renegade> I tried another fan .. & it still comes up with the same error .. ali1234 ?
[23:17] <ali1234> well, make sure you use one with sense output
[23:18] <redtape|renegade> is that the difference between 3 pins and four pins (connector 2 mo.board) .. because this is an old computer (2008) and I only have 3 pins ..
[23:19]  * redtape|renegade notes that his higher-end other computer has 4 pins on his CPU fan ..
[23:20] <redtape|renegade> ali1234, Perhaps I need to re-paste the CPU ?
[23:20] <ali1234> i doubt it
[23:20] <redtape|renegade> me too..
[23:20] <ali1234> unless you removed the heatsink
[23:20] <redtape|renegade> no.
[23:20] <redtape|renegade> do think it is just a critical failure ?
[23:21] <ali1234> i couldn't possibly say
[23:22] <redtape|renegade> it's a strange one .. I've never seen it before .. ?
[23:26] <redtape|renegade> ali1234, How do I get help with this ? Who do I ask ?
[23:29] <ali1234> you just have to figure it out.....
[23:30] <ali1234> you should check fan speed and cpu temp in the bios
[23:30] <redtape|renegade> ok .. will do .. thank-you..
[23:30] <directhex> redtape|renegade, the yellow wire reports the fan speed to the motherboard
[23:32] <directhex> or the green wire, on 4-pin connectors
[23:37] <redtape|renegade> directhex: Yeah, I just have 3 pin so i dunno if that makes much diference . Either it worx or it doesn't and I've tried 2 80mm fans .. Do you think this would work better ? http://bit.ly/12qbNw7
[23:39] <redtape|renegade> Although their feedback is a bit grim .. http://bit.ly/13hhg50