[00:00] <philipballew> here for the meeting
[00:00] <philipballew> its at 7 right?
[00:00] <philipballew> oh wait, im back in Ca...
[00:01]  * philipballew changes his watch to 5 pm
[01:27] <pleia2> hah
[02:07] <sf_ub> Any one running 12.04.2 LTS?
[02:07] <eps> uh, yeah!
[02:08]  * philipballew is
[02:08] <akk> I have it on the laptop, but not as the primary OS there.
[02:08] <sf_ub> any problems?
[02:08] <akk> No, works well.
[02:08] <philipballew> its stable
[02:08] <eps> It's working for me.
[02:09] <akk> (except it's not very battery efficient, which is why I use debian more on the laptop)
[02:09] <eps> I'm on a desktop, so that's a non-issue for me.
[02:09] <philipballew> usually all problems are things I did myself
[02:10] <akk> I ran it on my desktop from when it came out until a couple weeks ago when I upgraded to ringtail.
[02:10] <akk> Been fine all that time.
[02:10] <akk> I only upgraded because I wanted newer libraries on a development machine.
[02:10] <pleia2> #startmeeting
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[02:10] <sf_ub> any problems doing the upgrade from 10.04 LTS?
[02:10] <pleia2> who all is here for the meeting? :)
[02:10] <philipballew> sf_ub, just wait a few minutes
[02:10]  * philipballew is
[02:11] <akk> o/
[02:11] <eps> hi
[02:11] <pleia2> we don't actually have anything on the agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/13June02
[02:11] <darthrobot> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/13June02 - Ubuntu Wiki]
[02:11] <pleia2> but Markdude let me know earlier that he's planning a geeknic in a couple weeks
[02:11] <pleia2> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Geeknic_Fedora_Pi_Release_Party
[02:11] <darthrobot> Title: [Geeknic Fedora Pi Release Party - FedoraProject]
[02:12] <pleia2> in spite of the name, he assures me that Ubuntu folks are welcome :)
[02:12] <philipballew> looks good
[02:12] <Markdude> http://geeknic.org/?p=175
[02:12] <pleia2> looking at our events page, the only thing scheduled otherwise is the SF Ubuntu Hour http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california/events/
[02:12] <darthrobot> Title: [geeknic.org » Geeknic Fedora Pi Release Party – Los Gatos]
[02:12] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu California Events List | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]
[02:13] <pleia2> Markdude: great! want to announce on list? (and say Ubuntu folks are welcome :))
[02:13] <Markdude> It still has wiki foramtting to be fixed later
[02:13] <eps> Whatever happened to Walnut Creek?
[02:13] <Markdude> Of course
[02:13] <Markdude> eps
[02:13] <pleia2> eps: too hot
[02:13] <Markdude> 100+ degrees
[02:13] <Markdude> Went to East Bay Geek BBQ in Concaord yesterday
[02:13] <pleia2> yowch
[02:13] <Markdude> it was awesome but 100+
[02:13] <eps> Funny, I didn't hear anything about it.
[02:14] <Markdude> Its a meetup group
[02:14] <GNUdru_> 100+ in SJ as well
[02:14] <Markdude> I had not been to their event before
[02:14] <Markdude> Well- Vasona lake Park has water
[02:14] <pleia2> so many events, so few consolidated geek calendars :)
[02:14] <Markdude> Well they were gamers
[02:15] <pleia2> ah
[02:15] <Markdude> game devs
[02:15] <philipballew> its 103 in Auburn right now
[02:15] <Markdude> Quite a bit of Pokemon Dubstep
[02:15] <Markdude> And retro gaming
[02:15] <Markdude> Magic cards- cards against humanity
[02:15] <pleia2> back to meeting topics, anyone else have any upcoming events to talk about?
[02:16] <Markdude> I have a raspberry Pi weekend the same time as geeknic
[02:17] <Markdude> Some people are using Fedora there- Raspbian can be used on the Friday part
[02:17] <Markdude> And maybe the other if there is fail ;)
[02:18] <akk> I think there's Ubuntu for the RPi too, but I confess I haven't tried it myself.
[02:18] <Markdude> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BAMF_Pi_Fun
[02:18] <darthrobot> Title: [BAMF Pi Fun - FedoraProject]
[02:18] <pleia2> Markdude: I assume that's fedora-focused as well?
[02:18] <sf_ub> any considerations for upgrading from 10.04 LTS to 12.04.2 LTS (novice user)
[02:18] <Markdude> The saturday is
[02:18] <Markdude> The Friday is hacking on Pi
[02:18] <Markdude> With whatever tools you want to
[02:18] <Markdude> Rasbian
[02:18] <pleia2> sf_ub: can you hold on a couple minutes? (you happened to join during our weekly team meeting :))
[02:19] <Markdude> BAMF is not really hungup on folks OS
[02:19] <pleia2> cool :)
[02:19]  * Markdude shuts up now 
[02:19] <Markdude> :)
[02:19] <pleia2> anyone else have events worth noting in the next couple of weeks?
[02:19] <Markdude> But yes the Fri Pi Day is ANY OS
[02:19] <pleia2> I'm planning on tacking a Debian Dinner on to the end of the SF Ubuntu Hour
[02:20] <Markdude> Space Linux ftw!
[02:22] <pleia2> alright, anyone else have anything? :)
[02:24] <pleia2> alright, I guess that's it then, thanks everyone
[02:24] <pleia2> #endmeeting
[02:24] <darthrobot> Meeting ended Mon Jun  3 02:24:51 2013 UTC.
[02:24] <darthrobot> Minutes:        http://ihas.5cat.com/~darthrobot/ubuntu-us-ca/2013/ubuntu-us-ca.2013-06-03-02.10.moin.txt
[02:25] <Magniplex> thanks
[02:25] <pleia2> sf_ub: ask away!
[02:25] <pleia2> I did a couple 10.04 to 12.04 upgrades, but I only did it on servers (it went ok, just a couple things I had to fix)
[02:26] <akk> I can't remember if I tried the upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04, sorry.
[02:26] <akk> It's supposed to work.
[02:27] <sf_ub> thanks
[02:32] <sf_ub> quit
[03:11] <pleia2> 1/g 94
[03:11] <pleia2> doh
[03:36] <The_Letter_M> Hello all
[03:48] <The_Letter_M> Test
[03:49] <Markdude> Hello The_Letter_M
[03:49] <Markdude> Test appears to work.
[03:49] <The_Letter_M> Hehe
[03:49] <The_Letter_M> I got a "Unable to connect to server device" error in my channel window
[03:50] <The_Letter_M> I thought maybe I was disconnected since my client fails to tell me when I get disconnected from a server
[03:50] <The_Letter_M> How's it going tonight?
[04:32] <akk> Ha, just got the announcement about the meeting 2.5 hours ago.
[04:32] <akk> Usually I get it an hour or two before the meeting.
[04:32] <akk> (and maybe don't see it 'til after I've missed it)
[04:34] <akk> Wow, headers say pleia2 sent it at 9:48 am!
[04:35] <akk> And my mailserver says it got it a minute later, so why didn't it show up here when I was getting other mail just fine? Hmph.
[16:38] <nhaines> akk: there's no Ubuntu for the raspberry pi.  The board is too old.
[16:39] <akk> Ah! I think I'd read that and forgotten it.
[16:39] <Torikun> there is debian lol
[16:39] <nhaines> Canonical quickly contacted them to let them know they were dropping that ARM revision in the upcoming release.  There was much drama for some reason.
[16:39] <akk> I guess you could use an older Ubuntu -- IIRC Lucid ran even on plug computers.
[16:40] <nhaines> Yes, that would probably work fine.
[16:40] <akk> But there's probably not much point to that.
[16:40] <nhaines> It's still supported for two more years, server-wise.  :)
[16:41] <akk> Does that mean that X-based packages don't get security updates but backend ones do?
[16:41] <nhaines> Yup.
[16:41] <nhaines> I'm upgrading my second server from 12.04.2 to 13.04.
[16:42] <nhaines> Happily, the upgrader crashing on version checking last time I tried tipped me off that the VPS didn't have a swap file.  So that's easily fixed and we're off and running now.  ;)
[17:08] <nhaines> akk: starting with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, the support period is a flat 5 years.  So that's good for desktop users.  And also advocates who have to explain LTS support periods.  :)
[17:09] <akk> :)
[17:12] <Markdude> Puppy based Pi?
[17:12] <Markdude> They have lts version that uses Ubuntu Repos :D
[17:19] <nhaines> Yay, reboot time!  Now we see if the upgrade was optimal or pessimal.  :P
[17:26] <Torikun> good luck
[17:27] <nhaines> yay, 12.10 works.  Time for more updates and then another upgrade.  :)
[17:31] <Torikun> slow work daY? lol
[17:33] <nhaines> It's a personal test server, so there's pretty much no reason not to work on it.
[17:33] <nhaines> Besides, server updates happen in the background unattended.  :)
[17:33] <Torikun> lol
[17:50] <nhaines> Well, other than breaking locals on my server, we should be fine.
[20:57] <Chaser> crackmein1024
[20:57] <Chaser> oops wrong window
[20:57] <jtatum> oops :)
[22:59] <pleia2> aww, I thought I had managed to catch up on all my rss feeds, but it turns out that an upgrade to tt-rss broke my cron job for updating feeds
[22:59] <pleia2> oh well, it was nice while it lasted :)
[22:59] <bkerensa> lol
[22:59] <bkerensa> :D
[22:59] <akk> Don't you hate when that happens?
[23:01] <pleia2> yeah, I bet the change is probably in some release notes I didn't read ;)
[23:02] <akk> You could of course just skip anything that came in during that time, figuring you didn't miss it then so you won't miss it now.
[23:02] <akk> I have a hard time telling myself that, however (what if there's something really cool buried in there?!)
[23:03]  * pleia2 frowns as it updates to 82 unread
[23:03] <akk> whahh
[23:03] <pleia2> it's been 30 hours or so