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| bluesabre | Unit193: where in the repos? I don't see it, even with proposed enabled | 01:28 |
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| Unit193 | bluesabre: Saucy proposed (universe) - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/abiword | 01:29 |
| bluesabre | ah, looks like they've not been published yet | 01:31 |
| bluesabre | I look forward to testing those and watching my doc files get turned to mush | 01:32 |
| Unit193 | Dowh, crap... This is a bad day for me... | 01:32 |
| Unit193 | I'm sorry. | 01:32 |
| bluesabre | think abiword will ever handle doc files well? | 01:34 |
| OvenWerks | I always end up removing abi for libre for my wife. It works better between that and that other wordwrecker | 01:38 |
| Unit193 | Eh, who knows. Docx is the new kid anyway. LibreOffice does better, and that's what I have. | 01:38 |
| OvenWerks | We have a desktop file we put at the top of the office menu that opens USC pointed at libreoffice. We don't want to ship it. Yoou are welcome to a copy. (or steal it from our -settings) | 01:41 |
| OvenWerks | LSC doesn't have that feature (yet?) | 01:42 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: knome: re: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Saucy/EnablingXubuntuDevelopers, there's already a xubuntu packageset, see http://people.canonical.com/~stgraber/package_sets/saucy/xubuntu | 03:59 |
| micahg | Unit193: people should not be running things out of proposed in the devel release as it's unstable | 03:59 |
| Unit193 | Sorry. | 04:00 |
| skellat | micahg: The packageset is there but from what I could gather from the DMB documentation...there isn't a team that actually "owns" the packageset | 04:08 |
| skellat | micahg: The packageset is defined but has no uploaders as compared to say Kubuntu: http://people.canonical.com/~stgraber/package_sets/saucy/kubuntu | 04:10 |
| micahg | skellat: that's an implementation detail that we'll fix when needed | 04:11 |
| micahg | Unit193: I meant to look at the build failure for abiword, but have been lacking time and won't have any until Wed most probably | 04:12 |
| Unit193 | micahg: Oh sure, sure. | 04:20 |
| micahg | someone fixed the build failure, now so rdeps need fixing for it to migrate | 04:37 |
| skellat | micahg: Did I fill this out right: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/skellat/skellatDeveloperApplication | 04:38 |
| skellat | ? | 04:38 |
| micahg | skellat: you're not ready for upload rights, you have no sponsored uploads and only 2 sponsored syncs AFAICY | 04:40 |
| micahg | *AFAICT | 04:40 |
| skellat | Okay | 04:40 |
| skellat | No problemo | 04:40 |
| micahg | if you want PPU for xubuntu-docs, that should be doable once you've had some sponsored updates to that package | 04:41 |
| micahg | FWIW, it looks filled out properly | 04:41 |
| * skellat recognizes he is an apparatchik of the worst sort | 04:42 | |
| skellat | I'll take the MoinMoin text, save it to local disk, and nuke the page for now | 04:42 |
| micahg | skellat: heh, as long as it's not on the agenda, it can sit there and you can keep refining until you're ready | 04:42 |
| skellat | I do need a clarification as to what "sponsored update" to the package is. I have had merges accepted. | 04:42 |
| micahg | skellat: and the help is much appreciated, but I think you were pushed a little too soon | 04:43 |
| micahg | skellat: sponsored update is where you prepare an entire new version that only needs an uploader to set the series (or in some cases you can do this) and upload | 04:43 |
| skellat | Ah | 04:43 |
| micahg | your name is in the changelog in the uploader line | 04:44 |
| skellat | I gotta go back and re-read the sponsored upload documentation. I keep feeling like I am missing a step or two | 04:44 |
| micahg | accepted merges can help towards something like dev membership without upload rights, but you're already an Ubuntu member | 04:44 |
| Unit193 | (Does uploading to Debian count?) | 04:44 |
| micahg | not for Ubuntu membership (though it does look good on an application :)) | 04:45 |
| micahg | well, it helps such that you show competence with a package | 04:45 |
| skellat | Unit193 has Ubuntu membership too | 04:47 |
| Unit193 | Many people do... | 04:47 |
| skellat | Unit193: 774 people on-planet have Ubuntu Membership | 04:47 |
| skellat | As of my last check earlier tonight | 04:47 |
| skellat | We have 6 people in the Ohio LoCo with such including me and you (Unit193) | 04:48 |
| micahg | I will catch up with email eventually...feel free to ping me if there's something I need to see | 04:48 |
| skellat | micahg: I just need to find better documentation on the sponsored upload process | 04:48 |
| skellat | This is what I do have for sponsored upload process documentation on the Ubuntu side: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/udd-sponsorship.html | 04:50 |
| micahg | docs might have their own process, idk | 04:51 |
| skellat | Xubuntu is diverging from Ubuntu Documentation Project on that | 04:52 |
| skellat | I think | 04:52 |
| skellat | And I don't think bkerensa has that addressed yet at UDP level | 04:53 |
| skellat | Hmm | 04:54 |
| micahg | ok, well, the basic idea is to prepare the upload as if you had upload rights (with UNRELEASED in the changelog if you're using bzr) and poke someone to upload (either with a bug + sponsors team subscribed, bzr merge into UDD branch, poke on IRC for the exceptions where the other 2 don't make sense) | 04:54 |
| micahg | * poke someone to *review* and upload | 04:54 |
| skellat | Okay | 04:55 |
| skellat | That I can do | 04:55 |
| skellat | After I get some sleep | 04:55 |
| skellat | Writing text at this hour of night is one thing. Making bzr go kaboom happens way too easily at this hour for me. | 04:56 |
| * micahg is heading to sleep, will check scrollback sometime tomorrow | 04:56 | |
| * skellat bids goodnight too | 04:57 | |
| Unit193 | 'Night. | 04:59 |
| knome | i believe i've done a (semi-)"sponsored upload" with docs, with not really trying to achieve that, just doing what we need to get packages uploaded :P | 07:15 |
| Unit193 | Best way to do it. | 07:22 |
| knome | definitely. | 07:27 |
| knome | i don't think upload rights have any absolute value for me | 07:28 |
| ochosi | i think splitting the work is actually not a bad idea | 07:28 |
| ochosi | ofc it's also not bad if we all have upload-rights additionally | 07:29 |
| Unit193 | (That may be bad.) | 07:29 |
| ochosi | but the workload for each individual might increase if everyone has to upload their own stuff | 07:29 |
| knome | ochosi, i'm not saying it wouldn't be good. i'm just saying that i don't necessarily need package upload permissions, because 1) i'm not a developer and require other people to work on changes to most packages (excluding some artwork, docs, settings stuff) and 2) i don't specifically *want* to to uploads | 07:31 |
| ochosi | yeah, i wasn't arguing for or against what you said, mostly adding my pov to the conversation | 07:31 |
| ochosi | (and yeah, i'm not sure i wanna do uploads either, i feel my capacities are quite fully used as it is) | 07:35 |
| knome | i probably could, but then i'd want to drop other stuff, and that doesn't work while i'm XPL; when i'm not, i probably don't want to do that anymore as much | 07:38 |
| ochosi | for me it'd mean we'd have to e.g. drop maintenance of themes | 07:39 |
| ochosi | i mean of the other themes, and only focus on Greybird | 07:39 |
| Unit193 | Bleh, nooooooo. | 07:40 |
| Unit193 | That means Blackbird gets even less. | 07:40 |
| ochosi | Unit193: you mean you'd rather try to get upload rights yourself? :} | 07:41 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Is that a good idea? Just ask mi<tab> | 07:41 |
| ochosi | wouldn't know why not | 07:42 |
| knome | me neither | 08:07 |
| Unit193 | At least I'm learning. | 08:08 |
| knome | motivation gets you far. | 08:24 |
| knome | (that's you in the broader sense (as well)) | 08:25 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: this package set is missing most panel plugins and contains things we don't care about (lyx? really?) | 17:41 |
| mr_pouit | and people (bluesabre, ochosi) who want to gain upload right for the package set could do the merges from unstable to saucy (I haven't touched anything but the ppa). | 17:44 |
| bluesabre | mr_pouit: I would be interested in helping with the merges | 18:33 |
| bluesabre | :) | 18:33 |
| bluesabre | in addition to the other packages in our package set that ochosi and I are maintaining | 18:34 |
| bluesabre | released lightdm-gtk-greeter 1.6.0, parole 0.5.1, and catfish 0.6.4 today | 18:35 |
| bluesabre | (going to do sponsored uploads for those) | 18:35 |
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