[01:05] <karmiclychee> Hey so, my Xubuntu upgrade appears to have stalled
[01:05] <karmiclychee> I'm a bit worried that my OS is nuked.
[01:08] <karmiclychee> woot, nm, it moved
[01:08] <Unit193> \o/
[01:09] <karmiclychee> damnit, the log is saying a bunch of "you have held broken packages"
[02:26] <Quix86> I undocked and x barfed. How do I restart it in tty?
[02:27] <holstein> Quix86: sudo reboot ...or sudo shutdown -h now
[02:27] <Unit193> sudo service lightdm restart, or start if it isn't already.
[02:27] <holstein> OH.. yeah... restart the greeter like that ^^
[02:28] <Quix86> ty Unit193
[02:29] <Quix86> holstein, this is linux
[02:29] <Unit193> Sure thing.
[02:29] <Quix86> I don't need to reboot
[02:29] <Unit193> (When my X craps out, restarting X doesn't help.)
[02:29] <Quix86> worked fine for me
[02:29] <Quix86> like I said, I undocked and it didn't lik ethat
[02:29] <Quix86> I'ma try the 'eject button' this time...
[02:30] <Quix86> oh it doesn't like docking either
[02:30] <Quix86> sheesh
[02:30] <holstein> Quix86: sure, but when you asked "how do i restart in tty?" i thought you meant, how do i restart...
[02:30] <Unit193> dmesg/tail -n 39 /var/log/syslog
[02:30] <Quix86> there was an 'it' in there
[02:31] <Quix86> good thing I didn't have RCT open or I'd be furious
[04:21] <[0gb_us]> I'm trying to set up a VNC server, but not having much luck. What server software would you recommend, and how do you set it up?
[04:47] <Jdgtrnub> Is anyone there?
[04:48] <[0gb_us]> Nope. No one.
[04:48] <Unit193> [0gb_us]: x11vnc is what I use, and LAN only. (Or, over SSH.)
[04:48] <Jdgtrnub> So is burning the iso into a disk the only way to install xubuntu? If I am currently running on Ubuntu
[04:49] <[0gb_us]> Hmm. x11vnc (from what I've read) only allows access to sessions that are already running. Is that not true?
[04:49] <[0gb_us]> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:49] <Unit193> !purexubuntu | Should technically work.
[04:50] <Unit193> [0gb_us]: I can login to lightdm, I'm pretty sure.  But are you looking to start a new session for the VNC client?  tightvncserver I think does that, if I have the right name.
[04:51] <[0gb_us]> I tried logging in, maybe I didn't have it set up right ..... Okay, I'll try tightvncserver next. Thanks!
[04:53] <Unit193> http://paste.openstack.org/show/I6sF3QJVPFwHTSQxuA81 may not be the best, but I have that for an upstart job.
[04:57] <[0gb_us]> Okay, I'll remove tightvncserver for x11vnc and try that.
[04:59] <[0gb_us]> Hmm. The info says it only woks on boxes with actual monitors. That'll work on my one computer, but not my server.
[05:04] <[0gb_us]> Wow, that was lame. I used sudo reboot over shh to restart the computer that's only a foot away ...
[05:04] <Jdgtrnub> I have installed xubuntu using 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' how to I start up the OS?
[05:05] <[0gb_us]> Start it as normal, then choose Xubuntu Session from the display manager, instead of Ubuntu Session.
[05:06] <[0gb_us]> Unit193, I added your script at /etc/init.d/vncserver.0gb.us and rebooted, but I can't connect with a VNC client. Is that the wrong place to put it?
[05:07] <Unit193> /etc/init/x11vnc.conf is mine.
[05:07] <Unit193> Note, X has to be already running.
[05:09] <[0gb_us]> So in init, not init.d then?
[05:10] <[0gb_us]> X appears to be running, I see the lightdm on that computer's monitor.
[05:10] <jdgtrnub> I have started it up like normal, but yet I'm still in ubuntu, how do I choose xubuntu?
[05:11] <[0gb_us]> Are you logged in? Log out.
[05:11] <jdgtrnub> I logged out and restarted the computer.
[05:11] <[0gb_us]> Then click the Ubuntu logo by your name.
[05:12] <jdgtrnub_> There we go, I got in xubuntu. How do I get rid of all the others? And including my windows install?
[05:14] <[0gb_us]> Getting rid of Windows would require deleting the Windows partition and reconfiguring GRUB.
[05:14] <jdgtrnub_> I got rid of the partition but how to I reconfigure GRUB?
[05:14] <jdgtrnub_> Or is there a guide I can look at?
[05:14] <[0gb_us]> It would be easier to install from scratch.
[05:15] <jdgtrnub_> I don't have a cd burner :/
[05:15] <[0gb_us]> I don't know where a guide is, but I'm sure there is one.
[05:15] <jdgtrnub_> Er, dvd burner.
[05:15] <[0gb_us]> USB?
[05:19] <jdgtrnub_> I do have a USB yes, but it's only 4GB
[05:20] <jdgtrnub_> I guess the iso is only 800MB how install it from USB?
[05:20] <[0gb_us]> If it's empty, you can make a live USB to install from.
[05:20] <[0gb_us]> There is a Live USB creator in Ubuntu I think. I don't know where.
[05:21] <flux242> just dd the image onto the usb stick
[05:21] <[0gb_us]> Unit193, I moved the file to /etc/init, with no effect.
[05:21] <Unit193> [0gb_us]: Look at the log.
[05:22] <jdgtrnub_> What do you mean by dd
[05:22] <[0gb_us]> Where do you find this log?
[05:23] <[0gb_us]> I imagine dd is a command. run "dd --help".
[05:27] <jdgtrnub_> What should I dd an ISO as?
[05:28] <cfhowlett> jdgtrnub_, don't understand ... you mean how do you boot it?
[05:28] <[0gb_us]> cfhowlett, he means how do you put it on the USB.
[05:28] <[0gb_us]> Be warned, it will WIPE the data on the USB. I think.
[05:29] <jdgtrnub_> Well apparently dd is a command to write files to devices, but I can change the format. What should I dd an ISO as onto the USB?
[05:29] <cfhowlett> jdgtrnub_, indeed, your USB will be wiped completely.
[05:29] <jdgtrnub_> That's okay
[05:29] <cfhowlett> jdgtrnub_, you're using dd to make a bootable USB?  Why not use the startup disk creator or unetbootin?
[05:30] <jdgtrnub_> Because I don't have a DVD rom to burn it to :/
[05:30] <jdgtrnub_> And CD is slightly too small
[05:30] <cfhowlett> jdgtrnub_, both will create a boot USB ... not just cd/dvd
[05:31] <jdgtrnub_> Oh, well why didn't you say that in the first place, how do I get the startup disk creater?
[05:32] <cfhowlett> jdgtrnub_, startup disk creator will be under system menu I believe
[05:33] <jdgtrnub_> Cool, I found it.
[06:40] <jdavenport> Is it possible to remove the WindowsBootManager while in linux?
[07:11] <SixtyFold> does xubuntu have compiz with snapping abilities in xfce by default?
[07:12] <cfhowlett> SixtyFold, let me check ...
[07:12] <SixtyFold> cfhowlett - thank you
[07:13] <SixtyFold> i need a light weight OS with the ability to snap windows basically
[07:13] <cfhowlett> SixtyFold, compiz* is available but not installed.  as far as pretty effects like snapping, I THINK lxde might be easier to configure in that manner.
[07:14] <koegs> SixtyFold: compiz is not needed for snapping and tiling, xfce does that on its own
[07:14] <SixtyFold> im on lubuntu actually
[07:14] <SixtyFold> it doesnt have it at all
[07:14] <cfhowlett> SixtyFold, ah.  OK.  Didn't know that.
[07:15] <SixtyFold> koegs - ahh, so you can snap windows in xfce by default installation?
[07:15] <TheSheep> no, xubuntu doesn't have compiz, and you will get better help about compiz on #compiz
[07:15] <koegs> SixtyFold: from 12.10 on, es
[07:15] <koegs> *yes
[07:15] <SixtyFold> ahh, cool, thanks
[07:15] <cfhowlett> SixtyFold, it does snap but it's not compiz as that isn't installed in 12.04
[07:15] <SixtyFold> i dont want compiz or anything extra graphically to be honest
[07:15] <SixtyFold> i just want my windows to snap to half the screen size so theyre symmetrical
[07:17] <knome> i don't think snapping to half the screen is possible with the xfce core
[07:18] <Sysi> it's built to xfwm, you just need to disable dragging window to next workspace
[07:19] <Sysi> maximize-snap on the other hand doesn't work (but doubleclick does)
[07:19] <knome> half the screen i say
[07:19] <knome> snapping does work
[07:19] <knome> even with dragging to next workspace enabled
[07:19] <SixtyFold> yah, i dont need the max snap either, just the half screen one, so that i can read a web page and type into terminal and both windows are symmetrical
[07:20] <koegs> in xfce it is called "tiling" but means the Windows Aero or Compiz Snap :)
[07:20] <knome> if you always want the same setup, look at gdevilspie
[07:20] <SixtyFold> kool
[07:23] <Sysi> knome: works swimmingly on default xubuntu
[07:23] <knome> aha
[07:25] <Sysi> (not default settings but without extra apps)
[07:25] <warriordance> всем привет))
[07:26] <knome> !ru | warriordance
[07:27] <SixtyFold> why is the xfce mascot a mouse anyways?
[07:27] <SixtyFold> it drives me nuts
[07:27] <SixtyFold> haha
[07:28] <Sysi> "That’s the face of a light and swift animal who’s gonna help you get things done!" (not official)
[07:28] <knome> both are lightweight?
[07:29] <SixtyFold> seems like the face of an animal that is most used for lab experiments
[07:29] <SixtyFold> hahah
[07:29] <SixtyFold> and often diseased on its own
[07:29] <SixtyFold> :P
[07:29] <the-erm> Can someone please help me I have an odd problem.  My keyboard stops working in xubuntu.  Works fine in kubuntu, works fine in arch.
[07:29] <the-erm> I've tried 12.10 and 13.04.  The keyboard just stopps working.  No clue what's happening.
[07:30] <the-erm> I had an install of kubuntu earlier this week and installed xubuntu desktop and then poof stopped working before I had a chance to login.
[07:31] <the-erm> Even the live CDs no keyboard input.
[07:34] <the-erm> It's really sad because I really like the xubuntu distro.
[07:38] <SixtyFold> if the snap thing works well im gonna try to force myself to use xubuntu for my OCD too, because i hate that damn mouse
[07:38] <SixtyFold> haha
[07:40] <SixtyFold> whoa
[07:40] <SixtyFold> i didnt even have to install VMware tools for xubuntu
[07:40] <SixtyFold> nice, haha
[07:46] <SixtyFold> you guys sure snap worked side by side?
[07:49] <Sysi> you may need to change settings a bit, checkbox for snapping is in "window manager tweaks" and you need to disable "change workspace when draggig window" in "window manager settings"
[07:54] <SixtyFold> thanks
[08:05] <zruty> Will Brasero work on Xubuntu...?
[08:05] <ochosi> zruty: yes
[08:07] <zruty> ochosi: Thanks!
[11:30] <Golfwang> Hi, does anyone know if it is possible to install xubuntu on a RAID5 config?
[11:31] <cfhowlett> Golfwang, of course.  don't ask me how though
[11:31] <cfhowlett> !raid
[11:37] <Golfwang> Thanks guys.
[11:39] <cfhowlett> best of luck
[12:03] <Golfwang> Hey, I'm trying to install Xubuntu, and I'm getting an error after selecting my partition: 'The creation of swap space in partition #1 of Serial ATA RAID (insert swap space partition) (Partition #3) failed.'
[12:03] <Golfwang> I'm installing it on a RAID5 config.
[12:14] <koegs> Golfwang: what kind of RAID5 is it? some external (PCI/Express) hardware raid controller, onboard fake-raid controller or mdadm software raid?
[12:16] <Golfwang> It's a hardware raid controller, configured in BIOS.
[12:17] <koegs> so, a fake-raid :)
[12:17] <koegs> intel chipset?
[12:17] <Golfwang> yep, 17-2600k
[12:18] <koegs> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto <- good luck, i really do not recommend using the fake-raid-controllers from onboard-chipsets
[12:19] <Golfwang> Thanks, what would you recommend as an alternatice?
[12:19] <Golfwang> alternative*
[12:19] <koegs> either use a real hardware raid controller (costs a lot) or use mdadm for raid
[12:20] <koegs> Golfwang: is windows installed on the same raid?
[12:21] <Golfwang> yeah
[12:21] <koegs> ok, then forget option2/mdadm
[12:21] <Golfwang> Oh, lol.
[12:22] <Golfwang> I had a look at that link earlier
[12:22] <Golfwang> still sorta confused
[12:22] <Golfwang> I made sure dmraid was installed
[12:22] <Golfwang> from the live CD
[12:23] <Golfwang> but the same error.
[12:23] <koegs> yeah, i am not an expert on that dmraid/fake-raid stuff, i dont want to one in the future :)
[12:23] <koegs> *to be one
[12:24] <Golfwang> fair enough, but i have a feeling it's an issue unrelated to raid, since it's having trouble creating the swap space.
[12:26] <Golfwang> but thanks for your help anyway :)
[13:16] <aiena> Hi knome
[13:17] <aiena> How does one set up boot load order for grub - UI want it to boot into windows by default and xubuntu when I specify otherwise.
[13:20] <TheSheep> aiena: you edit /etc/default/grub
[13:21] <TheSheep> aiena: and then call sudo update-grub
[13:31] <aiena> thanks TheSheep
[13:31] <aiena> rebooting
[13:32] <aiena> didnt want to0 break concentration grub should be carefully messed with
[13:32] <aiena> brb
[13:59] <pebe> hi :) is there any way to get a 700mb iso image of xubuntu?
[14:00] <cfhowlett> !mini|pebe,
[14:00] <cfhowlett> pebe,  you could get the mini and build out from there.
[14:01] <th0r> pebe: the 12.04 iso fits on a cd, I believe
[14:03] <pebe> tnx for the info, will try the minimal cd image
[14:20] <seronis> when the xubuntu crash report window shows up is it supposed to actually be looking up more details or is the rotating icon just random
[14:21] <seronis> have only had a few crashes in the past month but the icon just rotates for a minute or so till i click 'continue' to dismiss the window
[15:43] <jessica9898> hello, i don't have my usbkey now and i dont have any empty cd, but i want to install new os to my laptop. Maybe there are some software like "wubi" on linux ?
[15:55] <genii> !wubi
[15:59] <jessica9898> ok, i put my iso to /boot/grml and i do grub update... when booting i choose my iso, but nothing happen... :/
[16:23] <SonikkuAmerica> !lubi
[16:24] <SonikkuAmerica> Well there used to be anyway...
[16:25] <koegs> you can load an iso via grub2 but you might have to edit the grub.cfg manually
[16:27] <koegs> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[16:36] <Sysi> remember that you can't wipe the partition the installation iso is on
[17:01] <OiCory> Hi guys
[17:01] <OiCory> I have a question
[17:03] <OiCory> I just installed xubuntu while using a pci wireless card. My network says connected but i have no lan or internet access
[17:19] <SonikkuAmerica> OiCory: Are you connected to (none) or something? What does it say?
[17:20] <OiCory> I was connected to my home wifi, and on my router page it showed i was connecte
[17:20] <SonikkuAmerica> Is your router connected to the Internet?
[17:21] <OiCory> Yes, no other devices have this problem
[17:22] <OiCory> I replaced the card with a different card and now i dont even see the wireless connection symbol in my status bar at all any,ore
[17:24] <OiCory> Wow, nvm it fixed itself now
[17:25] <OiCory> But i do know that the rt2800 drivers are bugged
[17:31] <dirk_> problem booting up xubuntu.... can someone take a look at this for me http://imagebin.org/260038
[17:31] <dirk_> bipolar..... you there buddy, i got something for you
[17:42] <dirk_> anybody look at that image for me
[17:46] <knome> !patience | dirk_
[17:53] <th0r> dirk_: did you clone the hard drive?
[18:00] <dirk_> my connection was lost for a half a second, so if i got an answer, i didnt see it
[18:02] <th0r> dirk_: did you clone your hard drive? The uuid error seems to indicate that the drive in the computer is not the drive the system is looking for.
[18:02] <th0r> dirk_: either that, or the drive is only partially connected, or is going bad
[18:03] <bazhang> is that a wubi install?
[18:03] <dirk_> no i didn't clone the drive... but i did do a wubi install which may or may not have somthing to do with it. i have done some reading on the subject and gathered that the boot module may have been placed in the wrong place do to the wubi install
[18:04] <bazhang> by boot module you mean grub?
[18:05] <dirk_> ive been having some issues with my drives... they're not going bad, but occasionally they aren't there when i boot up...  my E drive is gone all together...  i have 2 180gig drives and a 80 that i install the OS on
[18:07] <dirk_> yes by boot module i suppose i do mean grub.. but the image i posted states it can't find the boot module and then drops into a shell and gives lines and lines of killing sbin/dev errors
[18:08] <dirk_> finially i type exit after it runs those many lines of errors and it finially boots up to xubuntu
[18:13] <dirk_> ubuntu does infact boot up after awhile.... i am on xubuntu now, but it's really annoying... i'd like to fix the problem... i think that when it gives me the option to choose whether i boot into ubuntu or windows i can press e or whatever and manually tell where the grub or boot module is... but i'm not a million % sure of what i'm doing.... hence the reason i'm on here...
[18:17] <dirk_> i don't want to F-up anything to the point where i need to reinstall everything all over again... but i really need to recreate a boot usb without wubi just incase before i lose everything.. also i made the switch to linux about 5-6 days ago completely fed up with windows and i'm very close to boycotting windows al together... but if i wanted to take windows off my machine is it as simple as taking ubuntu off thru windows? i can just go to add/remove and uni
[18:17] <dirk_> nstall ubuntu there... but to take windows off do i need to format my C drive and start over? how does it work?
[19:24] <dirk_> besides unity and xfce...  as far as performance and such is there a difference between stalling ubuntu and running the xubuntu desktop and installing xubuntu iso?
[19:25] <Pwnna> the greybird theme
[19:25] <Pwnna> the border on the bottom and right is still too small..
[19:25] <Sysi> dirk_: no, besides having more packages installed (you can remove all unity packages though)
[19:26] <Sysi> Pwnna: you can edit it, cp -r /usr/share/themes/Greybird ~/.themes/Greybird-accessibility and stretch the bitmaps
[19:27] <Sysi> or use alt-rightclick-drag
[19:27] <bazhang> !crosspost | dirk_
[19:27] <Pwnna> whoa
[19:27] <Pwnna> alt right click drag
[19:27] <Pwnna> Sysi: that's awesome
[19:27] <Pwnna> thanks.
[19:27] <Sysi> yes it is, you're welcome
[19:29] <dirk_> what does crossport mean??? nevermind i'll google it?
[19:30] <bazhang> dirk_, it means what it says
[19:30] <dirk_> jesus...  ubottu...  i asked it in both channels because i'm getting good but differnt answers in both...
[19:30] <bazhang> dirk_, you are gettting help in #ubuntu at this precise moment
[19:30] <dirk_> on a different subject
[19:30] <bazhang> dirk_, the same subject. Please do NOT crosspost further.
[19:32] <dirk_> ok i'm asking xubuntu question in here and ubuntu question in there.... otherwise people would just give me a hard time about asking x question in there.... i can't f-ing win
[19:32] <bazhang> !language | dirk_
[20:03] <OiCory_> Hey guys, does anyone have any experience in Minecraft?
[21:01] <nantou> are brother printers' drivers good on linux? Im thinking about buying http://www.amazon.de/BROTHER-MFC-J6510DW-250Blatt-Papierkassette-Duplex/dp/B004HG9GPS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1370292351&sr=8-1&keywords=brother+mfc-j6510dw#productDescription
[21:01] <nantou> are brother printers' drivers good on linux? Im thinking about buying http://www.amazon.de/BROTHER-MFC-J6510DW-250Blatt-Papierkassette-Duplex/dp/B004HG9GPS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1370292351&sr=8-1&keywords=brother+mfc-j6510dw#productDescriptionwould I lose functions, given that I run linux?
[21:02] <nantou> would I lose functions, given that I run linux?
[21:09] <Unit193> nantou: You could check https://friendly.ubuntu.com/ for it, not sure if that database will have it.
[21:13] <genii> nantou: I've had issues with Brother printers under linux, these days I'd rather stick to HP or Xerox
[21:14] <nantou> fck, everyone says everything different
[21:18] <genii> nantou: http://askubuntu.com/questions/227318/installling-a-brother-printer-in-ubuntu-12-04-mfcj6510dw indicates that specific one might be problemmatic. But Your Mileage May Vary
[21:20] <Unit193> nantou: No language does include typo/"hidden" language too.
[21:20] <nantou> Unit193, i didnt understand a thing of your line
[21:22] <Unit193> No profanity here.
[21:25] <nantou> ok, now I understand its related to f.., but i still dont get it, sorry
[22:46] <Quix86> Hey guys, I just noticed the 'zeitgeist-datah' program running on my xubuntu setup. From what I've gotten from the googles, it's something like popularity contest in debian, except it's on by default, there are no settings for it in settings manager, and it's unity related
[22:46] <Quix86> shouldn't it be something removed from the xubuntu distro?
[22:52] <Unit193> Quix86: It's up to you, but it isn't really popcon (there's that for Ubuntu too.), not exactly related to unity, just unity makes extensive use of it.  You can remove it if you wish, but if you remove all zeitgeist programs, you'll lose catfish too.
[22:54] <Quix86> Oh I already removed it, but after the google it looked like some unity related package and my first conclusion is 'oh they must have forgotten to remove that one'
[22:55] <SonikkuAmerica> Unit193: Oh no, not the catfish! The next to go is the tuna!
[22:55] <SonikkuAmerica> XD
[22:57] <SonikkuAmerica> catfish is the file indexer right?
[23:01] <brainwash> search tool
[23:03] <brainwash> and it does work without zeitgeist.. the package shouldn't actually depend on zeitgeit, recommending it would be just fine
[23:04] <SonikkuAmerica> So it's a phantom dependency, like Unity Next (desktop preview via QML Phone Shell) pulls in GCC 4.4
[23:04] <Unit193> Exactly, backaging bug.
[23:04] <SonikkuAmerica> Packaging even?
[23:04] <Unit193> No, backaging, they forgot to backup the old packaging data and lost it in a fire.  (Yep, typo.)
[23:05] <brainwash> did anyone already fill a bug report to inform the maintainer?
[23:05] <SonikkuAmerica> lol lost in a fire
[23:05] <SonikkuAmerica> bbiab
[23:07] <Unit193> brainwash: bug 1171705
[23:07] <brainwash> "This bug affects 2 people"
[23:07] <brainwash> :D
[23:09] <brainwash> hopefully someone will actually fix this
[23:10] <Unit193> brainwash: Yes, dev of the program hopes it will be soon.
[23:11] <brainwash> so ppl stop complaining about zeitgeist slowing down their systems.. or even spying on them
[23:11] <bluesabre> brainwash: I just released a new version of catfish, hopefully I can get the dependency problem fixed when it gets uploaded to the repos :)
[23:12] <brainwash> bluesabre: awesome :)