| hatch | huwshimi: ok done | 00:06 |
|---|---|---|
| hatch | ;) | 00:06 |
| gary_poster | hatch uistage isn't broken. zoom out. silly kids | 00:06 |
| hatch | huwshimi: http://jsbin.com/itaqem/2/edit click the box :) | 00:07 |
| hatch | gary_poster: lol Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'browser_enabled' of undefined is what I see | 00:07 |
| gary_poster | hatch, wfm. hard reload? | 00:09 |
| huwshimi | hatch: Nice! Now you just need to make it close when you click outside of it, make it work with the keyboard and build a YUI widget to handle the creation etc ;) | 00:10 |
| gary_poster | http://uistage.jujucharms.com:8080/ and http://uistage.jujucharms.com:8080/:flags:/browser_enabled/ | 00:10 |
| hatch | huwshimi: umm....yeah...about that.... :P | 00:10 |
| huwshimi | hehe | 00:10 |
| hatch | gary_poster: ohh here is what happened Application Cache Error event: Failed to parse manifest http://uistage.jujucharms.com:8080/juju-ui/assets/manifest.appcache | 00:10 |
| hatch | we didn't properly set it to clear the appcache before we updated it | 00:11 |
| hatch | so the index.html is still cached on my system | 00:11 |
| gary_poster | hatch, ah. so yeah, clear with chrome://appcache-internals/ and prob fine | 00:11 |
| hatch | this brings up something curious to me....what is the proper way to remove appcache on a live site | 00:12 |
| hatch | hmm | 00:12 |
| hatch | ok gota run, will be back later to try and make 'click outside' to work with css :P | 00:14 |
| hatch | ^ was a joke :) | 00:15 |
| gary_poster | :-) | 00:15 |
| huwshimi | :) | 00:18 |
| === rogpeppe2 is now known as rogpeppe | ||
| gary_poster | hey bac, do the recent jenkins failures look like they have anything to do with images? | 12:28 |
| gary_poster | doesn't look like it to me :-/ | 12:29 |
| bac | looking | 12:29 |
| gary_poster | looks like random stupidity and a reminder that we should switch to a more production-centric system | 12:30 |
| bac | gary_poster: yeah, it looks like a bunch of hooha to me. CI should not require so much finger crossing and chicken sacrificing. | 12:35 |
| gary_poster | yeah :-( | 12:35 |
| bac | jujugui: so yesterday afternoon my ISP dudes couldn't find parking so they just left. now they are circling the block again. connectivity may (or may not) be flaky soon. | 12:36 |
| gary_poster | I guess the only things stopping us moving to ec2 are (1) corporate account, or me taking one for the team; and (2) opening up the firewall from the test center to ec2. | 12:37 |
| gary_poster | The first one is the one that slows me down the most. :-/ | 12:37 |
| bac | gary_poster: heck, i'll volunteer my AMEX. think of the points! | 12:37 |
| bac | no, really | 12:38 |
| gary_poster | :-) | 12:38 |
| gary_poster | but then anyone who can log into the machine can get your ec2 creds | 12:38 |
| benji | bac: that's hilarious | 12:38 |
| bac | oh | 12:40 |
| bac | so, carlos is here to replace my radio. | 12:40 |
| hazmat | bac, wow.. thats silly. | 12:40 |
| bac | er? | 12:40 |
| hazmat | bac, isp dudes leaving, cause they can't find parking.. | 12:40 |
| bac | oh, yeah, well... | 12:40 |
| hazmat | afternoon cerveza sounds more apt | 12:41 |
| bac | i would've gladly given them a cerveza | 12:41 |
| benji | gary_poster: I'm in guichat | 13:01 |
| gary_poster | benji, darn, ok | 13:02 |
| gary_poster | coming | 13:02 |
| * bac o/ | 13:16 | |
| hatch | morning | 13:53 |
| hatch | looks like canonistack errors on jenkins | 13:55 |
| bac | hi abentley, do you have a moment to answer some bzr lightweight checkout setup questions? | 14:02 |
| abentley | bac: Sure. | 14:02 |
| jcsackett | orangesquad: should we move the green categories card into the coding lane? I think it is now bound on rick's card as the last thing that needs to land for it to be done, yeah? | 14:04 |
| jcsackett | or does it just sit and go to done when we're done with other cards? | 14:04 |
| rick_h_ | jcsackett: seems strange to have a green card in coding without a face/etc on it | 14:04 |
| jcsackett | rick_h_: don't disagree, but having it in "Next" when all activity on it is going seems weird too. | 14:05 |
| jcsackett | rick_h_: : in the case of a review with lbox -req (i.e. a prereq branch) does lbox submit properly merge the branch, or does it just apply the patch set? | 14:11 |
| rick_h_ | jcsackett: oh hmm, I think since it's a req the other one needs to land first? It just builds the right diff/MP | 14:11 |
| rick_h_ | jcsackett: I don't think you can submit both in one swoop. | 14:12 |
| rick_h_ | jcsackett: but I could be wrong, not tried it tbh | 14:12 |
| jcsackett | rick_h_: yeah, i don't really think now's the time to experiment, since it'll break the build if it doesn't work. :-P | 14:16 |
| gary_poster | benji, gustavo suggested that we use full ip address, not merely port. Could you take a look at the only non-resolved comment on https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/14W14YAPYdivL9nF7Wvrb6kHX0xrsxV0fAEMfXNt7L3Q/edit# and see if you can see where to incorporate the idea, or the question (since I don't really understand where he is coming from) in the new doc? | 14:28 |
| benji | gary_poster: I can't claim to understand the comment containing the explanation. | 14:30 |
| gary_poster | benji, you and me both then. Maybe add a comment in the new doc highlighting the fact that we still need to resolve this with Gustavo? | 14:31 |
| sinzui | orangesquad. I was/am leaving the feature cards in the next lane because they remind us that the task/defect/improvement cards should relate to the features. I move the features to acceptance when I think we have delivered all the work. This is a bit risky since acceptance can find issues that will go into the next lane | 14:35 |
| teknico1 | bac: y u no put python-charmhelpers in juju-gui-charmers ppa? charm deploy sad | 14:36 |
| sinzui | I don't think the story1 and story2 makes sense if we continue to let the feature cards define the theme of work | 14:36 |
| teknico1 | BradCrittenden: ^^ | 14:37 |
| hatch | gary_poster: so I'm reading through this doc from luca__ and I'm wondering how I give feedback, is there some way to comment on these points? | 14:39 |
| luca__ | hatch: which parts do you want to comment on? | 14:40 |
| BradCrittenden | teknico1: sorry, the charm-tools in stable is from juju/pkgs and does not include the python-charmhelpers. i am currently copying it from juju-gui-charmers/devel | 14:40 |
| === BradCrittenden is now known as bac | ||
| hatch | luca__: so far Route A and Route B - I feel that we should have some kind of 'setting up' indicator to indicate that it's being set up instead of just hanging around as a ghost for 15 minutes | 14:40 |
| luca__ | hatch: you can add that to the comments section at the bottom of the post | 14:41 |
| luca__ | hatch: if you click into it | 14:41 |
| hatch | ahh ok | 14:41 |
| * hatch votes to use google docs next time :P | 14:41 | |
| bac | teknico1: unfortunately it'll take at least an hour | 14:41 |
| hatch | luca__: also """Is there ever a case where you just want to add charms without reading the details?""" yes I do with npm all the time | 14:42 |
| luca__ | hatch: https://sites.google.com/a/canonical.com/juju-meeting-notes/scenarios-1/buildinganenvironment | 14:42 |
| teknico1 | bac: the charm tries to install the "python-charmhelpers" package, it's not going to be happy if it does not find it in the ppa | 14:42 |
| luca__ | hatch: great :) | 14:42 |
| teknico1 | bac: or am I missing something? | 14:42 |
| hatch | luca__: :) I coudln't comment on that section so I'll leave that to you | 14:43 |
| bac | teknico1: i understand. that's why i just told you my actions to rectify the problem. | 14:43 |
| luca__ | hatch: I've just changed the user needs to a separate post so it can be commented on | 14:43 |
| hatch | oh ok awesome | 14:43 |
| hatch | I've never heard of sites.google.com before | 14:43 |
| teknico1 | bac: then it's me the one who's not understanding :-) what do you mean by "the charm-tools [...] does not include the python-charmhelpers"? | 14:44 |
| bac | teknico1: by "i am currently copying it" i mean on launchpad i have requested the package be copied from the devel PPA to the stable PPA | 14:44 |
| teknico1 | bac: but I don't see it in the devel PPA either... | 14:45 |
| teknico1 | that is, here: https://launchpad.net/~juju-gui-charmers/+archive/devel | 14:45 |
| bac | teknico1: it's weird. you have to click on 'details' and then look at charm tools. it'll show you the packages withing that, uh, package | 14:45 |
| bac | the charm-tools source package builds three different installation packages. python-charmhelpers is one of them | 14:45 |
| bac | last week the build recipe was changed to *not* build python-charmhelpers for ppa:juju/pkgs | 14:46 |
| teknico1 | bac: oh my gosh, I see it now, thank you. way to go hiding stuff :-) | 14:46 |
| bac | teknico1: that was quite a mystery to unravel last week | 14:46 |
| bac | teknico1: anyway, i screwed up i getting the charm-tools from the wrong spot for stable | 14:47 |
| teknico1 | bac: I wonder why that happened... (not building python-charmhelpers) | 14:47 |
| bac | teknico1: marco changed his debian/control file to explicitly delete it. unsure why. | 14:47 |
| bac | teknico1: if you need to deploy a charm right now you can set repository-location=ppa:juju-gui-charmers/devel | 14:48 |
| bac | otherwise the copy from one ppa to stable will complete in an hour or so | 14:48 |
| teknico1 | bac: ok, thanks, at least I know what the problem is :-) | 14:48 |
| * bac regrets having lost his PPA administration super powers | 14:49 | |
| * bac wonders if that is the cause of jenkins failures | 14:49 | |
| teknico1 | it would seem likely | 14:49 |
| teknico1 | (bac: did you ask around? someone may have found them ;-) ) | 14:49 |
| gary_poster | bac, maybe follow up with marco about python-charmhelpers? does this mean that he broke gui deployments? | 14:53 |
| bac | gary_poster: i talked to him last week but decided to use my own build recipe for our devel and stable ppa. while his recipe is no longer building p-ch it was not deleted from the juju/pkgs repo, though it is not visible via the UI. | 14:55 |
| gary_poster | ok thanks bac | 14:55 |
| gary_poster | bac, maybe clarify with him that deleting it Would Be Bad? Or is it not possible to delete? | 14:56 |
| bac | i erred by testing against our new devel ppa and not stable | 14:56 |
| gary_poster | If it is possible to delete, maybe that would be an answer to our "what do you do if you have a package in devel that doesn't work out" question from yesterday? | 14:56 |
| bac | gary_poster: it is not possible to delete unless he were to delete the entire charm-tools source package from that ppa, which he has no reason to do | 14:56 |
| gary_poster | ok | 14:56 |
| gary_poster | thanks | 14:56 |
| bac | gary_poster: what is the risk you see now that our charm does not rely on juju/pkgs anymore? | 14:57 |
| gary_poster | bac, old charms only. but until you push the new charm with dependencies on the new ppa to ~juju-gui-charmers (did you do that?), the main charm is the old charm | 14:58 |
| bac | gary_poster: that was done: https://code.launchpad.net/~juju-gui-charmers/charms/precise/juju-gui/trunk | 15:00 |
| gary_poster | cool bac, thanks. | 15:00 |
| gary_poster | bac, then I guess I'm not too worried. Paranoid, but not worried. :-P | 15:00 |
| bac | but i think it was premature and not following our guidelines | 15:00 |
| gary_poster | because it was released prior to full testing? | 15:00 |
| bac | it should gone to the old spot but due to my broken setup i pushed to lp:charms/juju-gui. (so my new blog post is wrong) | 15:01 |
| gary_poster | ah ok | 15:01 |
| bac | yes, the official charm is currently broken until the PPA publishing for stable is complete | 15:01 |
| gary_poster | :-/ k | 15:02 |
| bac | soory | 15:02 |
| gary_poster | you're on it | 15:02 |
| gary_poster | you are fixing it | 15:02 |
| gary_poster | I suppose we should have another "what can we do so this doesn't happen again" conversation, in which we all say "use tarmac" | 15:03 |
| teknico1 | bac: while you're at it, please also fix my head and my wall ;-) | 15:03 |
| gary_poster | want to ask matsubara where we are on that but have not seen him | 15:04 |
| gary_poster | hey luca__ , could you copy over the things you want us to comment on to google doc instead? | 15:05 |
| gary_poster | I'd like to use the google doc line by line thing | 15:05 |
| luca__ | gary_poster: sure, I'll do that once I get out of this meeting | 15:05 |
| gary_poster | thank you! | 15:05 |
| bac | jujugui: to avoid the charm problem i just had, everyone should verify lbox is merging to lp:~juju-gui/charms/precise/juju-gui/trunk not lp:charms/juju-gui | 15:07 |
| gary_poster | bac, I suggest we make a .lbox file in charm , like the one in gui | 15:07 |
| gary_poster | instead of | 15:08 |
| bac | this blog post has bzr setup instructions if using lightweight checkouts: http://jujugui.wordpress.com/2013/06/04/bazaar-lightweight-checkouts-and-charm-development/ | 15:08 |
| gary_poster | propose -cr -for lp:juju-gui | 15:08 |
| gary_poster | we would simply have | 15:08 |
| gary_poster | propose -cr -for lp:~juju-gui/charms/precise/juju-gui/trun | 15:08 |
| gary_poster | k | 15:08 |
| gary_poster | and then anyone checking out the branch would have the proper lbox behavior immediately | 15:08 |
| gary_poster | AIUI at least | 15:08 |
| bac | gary_poster: ok, i'll add that now. w | 15:14 |
| gary_poster | thanks bac | 15:14 |
| alejandraobregon | gary_poster: luca and i just had the meeting with charline | 15:16 |
| gary_poster | alejandraobregon, cool! | 15:17 |
| gary_poster | call? | 15:17 |
| alejandraobregon | wrote up comments and suggestions beneath your current questions | 15:17 |
| alejandraobregon | https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1bSR1nfSsZs4XQoTv1IZu-so5FM-_R4JsvRsW3IAZyag/edit | 15:17 |
| hatch | bcsaller: are you in yet? | 15:17 |
| gary_poster | looking | 15:17 |
| luca__ | hatch: I've added google docs to the posts | 15:21 |
| luca__ | gary_poster: ^ | 15:21 |
| hatch | :) You didn't have to | 15:21 |
| hatch | but thanks! | 15:21 |
| hatch | :) | 15:21 |
| hatch | I'll move my comments there | 15:22 |
| bcsaller | hatch: I am now | 15:22 |
| hatch | I am writing the viewlet too if that's alright - I can't really do much without it | 15:22 |
| gary_poster | alejandraobregon, really fantastic, big thanks to you, Luca, and Charline. I'll make a few small revisions, and then send it to the lawyer. | 15:23 |
| * gary_poster needs to step away | 15:23 | |
| gary_poster | back in a few | 15:23 |
| bcsaller | hatch: sounds good | 15:23 |
| alejandraobregon | gary_poster: no wories | 15:23 |
| alejandraobregon | worries | 15:23 |
| hatch | bcsaller: https://gist.github.com/hatched/2463d15dd51d12e04258 got a sec for a guichat? | 15:27 |
| hatch | gist updated | 15:40 |
| gary_poster | congrats on landing core branch, frankban :-) | 15:45 |
| bcsaller | hatch: I can hop in chat now | 15:46 |
| frankban | gary_poster: \o/ | 15:46 |
| gary_poster | :-) | 15:46 |
| hatch | bcsaller: ok there | 15:47 |
| rick_h_ | luca__: ping, any chance we can get these category icons in 160x160 for the full charm details icon view please? https://drive.google.com/a/canonical.com/#folders/0B1IM--9A1RkTMndkVG8zeHFlVmM | 15:51 |
| luca__ | rick_h_: I have no idea, let me ask the guy who made them :P | 15:52 |
| rick_h_ | luca__: thanks, appreciate it | 15:52 |
| rick_h_ | luca__: I had three sizes and ran with it and now see that we changed the sizes so I've got 2/3 I need to complete the category work | 15:52 |
| luca__ | rick_h_: He's going to make the new sizes, hopefully won't take too long. I'll add them to the drive and email you when you they are up. | 15:55 |
| rick_h_ | luca__: appreciate it | 15:55 |
| gary_poster | jujugui kanban now call in 4 | 15:56 |
| gary_poster | jujugui call in 1 | 15:59 |
| abentley | orangesquad: Could you please review https://code.launchpad.net/~abentley/charmworld/remove-api-0/+merge/167324 ? | 16:00 |
| * sinzui does | 16:00 | |
| luca__ | rick_h_: I've just uploaded the 160x160px icons to that folder: https://drive.google.com/a/canonical.com/#folders/0B1IM--9A1RkTMndkVG8zeHFlVmM | 16:04 |
| sinzui | abentley, is test_reindexed_no_client_charms testing that an error is not raised? There is no asserts. | 16:05 |
| abentley | sinzui: Yes. | 16:06 |
| abentley | sinzui: Should I add asserts or a comment? | 16:06 |
| sinzui | A comment would be helpful | 16:07 |
| abentley | sinzui: I've added a similar comment to test_create_replacement_misssing | 16:09 |
| sinzui | thank you abentley. r=me. | 16:10 |
| abentley | sinzui: Thanks. | 16:10 |
| hatch | bcsaller: reasonable to assume that we could have something like https://gist.github.com/hatched/3876ff1fc8ca1bff5bb0 for the view-container? | 16:17 |
| julianwa | jcastro: ping | 16:17 |
| jcastro | julianwa: pong! | 16:19 |
| julianwa | jcastro: hi, I had a problem to login juju-gui | 16:21 |
| julianwa | jcastro: juju gui is deployed by charms in charm store, for python juju stable version | 16:21 |
| * gary_poster listens | 16:22 | |
| julianwa | but failed to login with admin-secret key | 16:22 |
| julianwa | 2013-06-04 11:56:22,399: juju.rapi.ws@INFO: Invoking method <bound method APIContext.login of <juju.rapi.context.APIContext object at 0x22940d0>> with {u'password': u'FDU2K9N7bsJZkfh6s6:829z85ytjayxqYKLPU:Tvmtbwcku9FsSyjuVWzPxmAEBUaBjA9E', u'user': u'admin'} | 16:22 |
| julianwa | 2013-06-04 11:56:24,092: juju.rapi.ws@INFO: Returning results {'failure': 'Traceback (most recent call last):\nFailure: zookeeper.NoAuthException: not authenticated\n', 'request_id': 1, u'user': u'admin', 'err': True, 'op': u'login', u'password': u'FDU2K9N7bsJZkfh6s6:829z85ytjayxqYKLPU:Tvmtbwcku9FsSyjuVWzPxmAEBUaBjA9E', 'log': [('error', 'Invalid credentials')]} | 16:22 |
| bcsaller | hatch: wouldn't it be a loop around viewlets where you put the container class use for switching around them automatically? | 16:23 |
| julianwa | jcastro gary_poster, any ideas? | 16:24 |
| gary_poster | julianwa, do you have multiple environments in your ~/.juju/environments.yaml file? We haven't encountered any problems like that ourselves, so my first guess woudl be that you used the wrong password for the active environment | 16:24 |
| gary_poster | back in a sec | 16:25 |
| julianwa | gary_poster: thanks, I will check :) | 16:25 |
| BradCrittenden | jujugui: would like one review of the code backport just for sanity check: https://codereview.appspot.com/9975046/ | 16:28 |
| === BradCrittenden is now known as bac | ||
| hatch | bcsaller: updated gist https://gist.github.com/hatched/3876ff1fc8ca1bff5bb0 | 16:28 |
| hatch | the specifics we can work out after design - but the concept should be similar | 16:29 |
| bac | jujugui: python-charmhelpers is now properly in stable PPA: https://launchpad.net/~juju-gui-charmers/+archive/stable/+build/4641114 | 16:35 |
| gary_poster | thank you bac | 16:35 |
| teknico1 | bac: thank you | 16:35 |
| bac | gary_poster, teknico1: can either of you do the quick review i requested? i'd like to get this landed to finish cleaning up the mess. | 16:37 |
| gary_poster | I will if teknico1 can't. Otherwise trying to finish something up. teknico1, are you already at EoD? | 16:38 |
| teknico1 | gary_poster: I'll squeeze it in, it seems simple enough | 16:40 |
| gary_poster | thanks teknico1 | 16:40 |
| teknico1 | bac: it looks exactly the same as yesterday's branch, isn't it? | 16:41 |
| bac | :) | 16:42 |
| bac | i did say sanity check | 16:42 |
| bac | that's the nature of a backport | 16:42 |
| teknico1 | bac: done | 16:42 |
| bac | thanks | 16:42 |
| === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] | ||
| rick_h_ | jcsackett: sinzui can I get some review <3 please? https://codereview.appspot.com/9975047 note that it's blocked on kanban until we get the 160px category images but that doesn't effect the code at all. | 16:52 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: ^^ as well if you have a chance | 16:52 |
| hatch | alright | 16:55 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: ignore all the svg files :P | 16:56 |
| rick_h_ | #DiffsAreSmallerThanTheyAppearInMirror | 16:56 |
| hatch | lol | 16:57 |
| Makyo | gary_poster, bcsaller - would like to start "zoom to a service if any on first delta". It sounds reasonable, but I'm game for a pre-imp call if either of you want. | 17:04 |
| gary_poster | Makyo, don't need one from me :-) | 17:04 |
| bcsaller | Makyo: not unless you want one | 17:04 |
| gary_poster | bac, you done with your critical card in Maintenance? | 17:04 |
| Makyo | gary_poster, bcsaller - Alright. Will start for now. | 17:05 |
| rick_h_ | sinzui: ping, got a sec? | 17:05 |
| hatch | rick_h_: review done | 17:07 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: cool, I'm changing it up right now :) | 17:08 |
| bac | gary_poster: moved | 17:09 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: chat? | 17:09 |
| gary_poster | thanks bac | 17:09 |
| hatch | sure | 17:09 |
| sinzui | rick_h_, I do. Sorry for the delay. I had a late lunch to argue with my ISP | 17:21 |
| rick_h_ | sinzui: invite inbound | 17:24 |
| hatch | I am having an issue generating a new template file | 17:28 |
| hatch | no matter what I do it doesnt' add the new .handlebars file into the rollup | 17:28 |
| hatch | I tried make clean and then make again | 17:28 |
| hatch | but no luck | 17:28 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: so when you run that make command I give you do you get any error output? | 17:29 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: if there's a syntax error in the template you'll get a one line in the make comment output that tells you 'something went wrong' and is partially helpful | 17:30 |
| hatch | i just rm'd the whole dir's and then remade | 17:30 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 17:30 |
| rick_h_ | well, copy the output next time you make build-shared/juju-ui/templates.js | 17:30 |
| rick_h_ | I'll bet you have a mismatched tag or missing # or something | 17:30 |
| * rick_h_ did that more than a few times the last couple of days | 17:31 | |
| hatch | rick_h_: yup it was a syntax error | 17:31 |
| hatch | :/ | 17:31 |
| hatch | argz | 17:31 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: party on | 17:32 |
| benji | ok, gary_poster, I'm out of time (plus some). Do you want to review the draft together or just make changes and annonce? | 17:36 |
| gary_poster | benji, I need to actually run and do something else. Let's have lunch and then reconvene? I'm not too worried about it since I kind of announced it already via the calendar announcement. | 17:36 |
| gary_poster | does that sound ok to you? | 17:37 |
| benji | k | 17:37 |
| gary_poster | cool, thank you | 17:37 |
| jcsackett | rick_h_: looking now. | 17:46 |
| === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck | ||
| jcsackett | rick_h_: nm, just saw curtis's comments hit. | 17:50 |
| rick_h_ | jcsackett: yea thanks | 17:59 |
| hatch | going to grab some lunch | 17:59 |
| abentley | sinzui: It turns out my migration was bogus (it only updated a single document, and my tests only tested a single document). Should I do a new migration or bugfix the existing one? | 18:04 |
| sinzui | abentley, I think a new one. | 18:04 |
| sinzui | abentley, Wouldn't a bug fix be more risky for a production deployment? | 18:05 |
| abentley | sinzui: We'd have to manually futz with staging to force migration 5 to run again. | 18:06 |
| sinzui | well, that is what I hoped a new migration would avoid. | 18:06 |
| sinzui | abentley, how is a bug fix different? | 18:07 |
| abentley | sinzui: I was describing a bugfix. A bug fix would update migration 5. If we introduce migration 6, we still have to have migration 5, though I can change it to a no-op. | 18:08 |
| sinzui | I like a new migration. making migration 5 a no-op is fine since we reserve the right to choose which migrations are no longer supported | 18:09 |
| abentley | sinzui: https://code.launchpad.net/~abentley/charmworld/really-remove-icon/+merge/167364 | 18:25 |
| * sinzui looks | 18:25 | |
| sinzui | ah, like the RE g option when doing substitutions. r=me abentley | 18:28 |
| abentley | sinzui: Thanks. | 18:28 |
| abentley | sinzui: I would like it if we could remove migrations that are no longer supported, but the current code requires an unbroken numerical sequence. | 18:33 |
| sinzui | abentley, I think we can live with dummies that just document the historical intent. | 18:34 |
| rick_h__ | jcsackett: ping, did you want the background on the bar issue stuff at all or are you ok? | 18:40 |
| hatch | bcsaller: around? | 18:45 |
| bcsaller | hatch: yes | 18:45 |
| hatch | have a moment for a screenshare? | 18:45 |
| abentley | sinzui: tarmac appears to have gone on strike, and I can't find matsubara. | 18:46 |
| sinzui | abentley, I see | 18:48 |
| === _mup___ is now known as _mup_ | ||
| sinzui | abentley, the only option I can think of at this time is to test and merge ourselves, then call upgrade charm | 18:51 |
| abentley | sinzui: I'm not rushed with this one. | 18:52 |
| * benji_ cleans hundreds of messages about PyPI projects out of his inbox. | 18:57 | |
| * benji_ wonders when he grew a tail. | 18:57 | |
| === benji_ is now known as benji | ||
| * benji feels much better now. | 18:58 | |
| === _mup___ is now known as _mup_ | ||
| hatch | new yui bugfix release http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2013/06/04/yui-3-10-2-released | 19:40 |
| hatch | we should look into upgrading to 3.10 at some point :) | 19:40 |
| hatch | jcastro: Great idea on the app infrastructure :) | 19:42 |
| bac | gary_poster: i've learned more about google analytics and it doesn't look like it is going to work for us. they expect a single tracking code to be tied to a specific web site, which is not our use case. | 19:44 |
| gary_poster | bac, oh :-( | 19:44 |
| bac | we want to track the use of an app that'll appear in lots of places | 19:44 |
| gary_poster | y | 19:45 |
| bac | gary_poster: for instance, they won't even begin gathering data until their robot finds the tracking code at the specficied url ... which cannot include a custom port, btw | 19:45 |
| bac | so i cannot even test it on uistage | 19:45 |
| gary_poster | bac, any other options you found for our use case? | 19:46 |
| bac | not yet | 19:46 |
| bac | crazy egg has the same setup | 19:48 |
| gary_poster | ok :-/ | 19:48 |
| gary_poster | I see for-fee ones that would seem to work | 19:49 |
| gary_poster | or maybe we have to set up our own app for this? in which case this is a stretch goal | 19:52 |
| gary_poster | that would be a shame | 19:52 |
| gary_poster | bah, benji, neither of us pinged the other and I've been doing other things. looking at your doc | 19:54 |
| benji | k | 19:55 |
| hatch | gary_poster: you use sublime text 3 right? Are there any reasons to upgrade? | 19:59 |
| gary_poster | hatch, no, for me currently only anti-reasons. hopefully better later | 19:59 |
| hatch | alrighty :) | 20:00 |
| hatch | I use this as my icon http://1024jp.deviantart.com/art/Sublime-Text-Icon-373837347 | 20:01 |
| hatch | thought you might like | 20:01 |
| gary_poster | :-) cool | 20:17 |
| bac | gary_poster: it *may* be possible to use ga if we get it bootstrapped with a fixed location | 20:19 |
| gary_poster | bac, how would that work? | 20:19 |
| bac | gary_poster: it looks like a code that their robots have verified at a fixed location can be used from other sites if you turn off the url filtering | 20:20 |
| gary_poster | oh | 20:20 |
| gary_poster | well, we have jujucharms.com.. | 20:20 |
| bac | yeah, that's true. we also have uistage.jujucharms.com if we were on port 80 | 20:21 |
| gary_poster | we have that bac | 20:21 |
| gary_poster | http://uistage.jujucharms.com/ | 20:21 |
| bac | oh, we do don't we? | 20:22 |
| bac | i've been going to 8080 out of habit and bookmarks then | 20:22 |
| gary_poster | me too | 20:22 |
| bac | benji: nm | 20:22 |
| benji | I'm about to introduce a Y3K bug into the GUI. I've made a note to myself to fix it in 2999. | 20:51 |
| hatch | you better! | 20:53 |
| gary_poster | benji, +1 on vitals proposal | 20:56 |
| gary_poster | made some changes | 20:56 |
| benji | cool | 20:56 |
| gary_poster | benji, please review my last two comments/changes? | 20:56 |
| * benji looks | 20:56 | |
| gary_poster | BradCrittenden, are you optimistic or pessimistic about GA working out for us at this point? | 21:33 |
| alejandraobregon | gary_poster: hey | 21:42 |
| hatch | typeof null === "object" just bit me ....ouch it stings | 21:44 |
| gary_poster | alejandraobregon, hey | 21:56 |
| hatch | TDD works pretty damn well once you get the hang of it | 22:12 |
| hatch | has anyone ever had any issues with setStyle on elements in mocha? | 22:33 |
| hatch | for some reason it's throwing on a setStyle claming the method doesn't exist when it clearly does (from stepping through and manually calling it) | 22:34 |
| hatch | hmm it thinks nothing exists... | 22:37 |
| hatch | blah | 22:41 |
| hatch | figured it out - it was reporting the wrong line :/ | 22:50 |
| bcsaller | using a source map and pretty print at the same time does break the line numbers | 22:51 |
| hatch | now to figure out why THIS line doesn't work | 22:52 |
| hatch | heh | 22:52 |
| hatch | well I'm baffled | 22:57 |
| hatch | well I really wish I could solve this so I could commit this code and be done | 22:59 |
| bcsaller | I know the feeling | 23:04 |
| hatch | well I'm not getting anywhere it's pushed up lp | 23:07 |
| hatch | have a good night | 23:08 |
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