[00:49] <ryanakca> Does a package automatically get removed from Ubuntu after it gets removed from Debian testing/unstable, or do I need to do something on the Kubuntu side to get mcdp cleared out?
[00:49] <ryanakca> (following http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=709909 )
[02:04] <ahoneybun> Darkwing: ping
[02:24] <ScottK> ryanakca: It's semi-automatic, so usually no unless there are Ubuntu specific changes in it, then it tends not to get removed.
[02:44] <valorie> So, what if they get really desperate and reset their modem to get a new hostname?
[02:44] <valorie>  106 [00:40] <pleia2> You can try: /mode +b *!*@*-example.com
[02:44] <valorie>  107 [00:41] <pleia2> But be careful - this will ban everyone coming from the exmaple.com service provider
[02:44] <valorie>  108 [00:41] <pleia2> and honestly this ban should only be put in place in emergencies and should be accompanied by joining #freenode and reporting that there is a user who is evading bans
[03:06] <valorie> oh good lord, sorry
[03:07] <valorie> was reading irc classes and fixing my kate doc with relevant stuffs
[03:07] <valorie> dunno how it got pasted here instead
[03:07] <ryanakca> ScottK: Alright, thanks.
[06:09] <soee> good morning
[10:12] <shadeslayer> any oppositions to adding libkolab and libkgapi as build depends to kdepim-runtime?
[10:13] <shadeslayer> oh
[10:13] <shadeslayer> apparently we had those, but they got lost in the merge
[10:14] <Riddell> doh, yeah please add them back
[10:14] <shadeslayer> yep, compiling it now with the deps
[10:18] <shadeslayer> grrreeattt
[10:18] <shadeslayer> boost issues
[10:23] <shadeslayer> Riddell: IIRC we had a discussion about having network-manager-vpnc on the ISO right>
[10:24] <Riddell> shadeslayer: IIRC we did
[10:24] <shadeslayer> any ideas why did we refuse it on the CD?
[10:25] <Riddell> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/10/17/%23kubuntu-devel.html#t22:15
[10:25] <Riddell> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/10/22/%23kubuntu-devel.html#t13:28
[10:26] <shadeslayer> lol
[10:29] <shadeslayer> we didn't conclude anything, I went to the nm session at UDS
[10:29] <shadeslayer> the conclusion via private email was that kde nm needs patchery to use dbus  + packagekit to figure out what's installed
[10:29] <shadeslayer> but there's also the issue that different distros might name the package differently
[10:36] <shadeslayer> Riddell: you also dropped libqjson-dev and some other things in kdepim-runtime :(
[10:36] <Riddell> ug, sorry
[10:37] <shadeslayer> np, shit happens
[10:37] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can we just ship vpnc on the ISO? :P
[10:38] <Riddell> shadeslayer: was it a main vs universe issue?
[10:38] <Riddell> in which case that's no longer an issue
[10:38] <shadeslayer> From what I can tell it adds 354 kb to the CD
[10:38] <shadeslayer> dunno
[10:38] <Riddell> cyphermox: any reason not to?
[10:38] <shadeslayer> didn't we move to universe in raring?
[10:38] <Riddell> we did
[10:41] <shadeslayer> I have to head out for a bit, cya in a bit
[10:59] <yofel> markey: you can find qt in https://launchpad.net/~yofel/+archive/staging1/+packages
[10:59] <yofel> please remove the ppa after updating
[11:26] <Riddell> ScottK: security issue bug 1179380 in progress now I hope
[11:34] <Riddell> spot the problem http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/saucy.png
[11:43] <shadeslayer> Riddell: the activities button?
[11:43] <shadeslayer> :P
[11:52] <soee> uhm during printer configuration 2-3 times i had crash report
[11:54] <Riddell> shadeslayer: missing kde-window-manager-common package
[11:55] <shadeslayer> hah
[11:55] <Riddell> also akonaditray is running for some reason
[11:57] <shadeslayer> O_O
[12:11] <soee> only 3 files didn't build in 4.10.4 ?
[12:12] <shadeslayer> well, working on kdepim-runtime
[12:14] <Riddell> we'll need to make sure any changes I've uploaded since yesterday get synced in the packaging
[12:15] <Riddell> well s/we/I/ to be fair :)
[12:19] <ScottK> akonaditray should be running, but hidden.
[12:19] <ScottK> Riddell: Excellent.
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:40] <shadeslayer> W: libnepomukcore4abi1: description-synopsis-starts-with-article
[12:40] <shadeslayer> so verbose ^_^
[12:41] <shadeslayer> eh
[12:41] <shadeslayer> Riddell: E: nepomuk-core-runtime: postinst-must-call-ldconfig usr/lib/libnepomukextractor.so
[12:41] <shadeslayer> what do you think of that ^^
[12:42] <shadeslayer> okie, only blinken left AFAICT
[12:45] <shadeslayer> oh and oxygen-icons and kajongg since no one seems to have looked at those
[12:57] <shadeslayer> Riddell: uhm why the need for generate-icons here http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/blinken/revision/71#debian/rules
[12:57] <shadeslayer> and it's not even called
[12:57] <shadeslayer> and I don't see it in debian : http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-kde/kde-sc/blinken.git;a=blob;f=debian/rules;h=244905ccaaeae8b9ddfe2a9efd0358cd789ad68d;hb=HEAD
[12:58] <shadeslayer> no icon-list as well
[13:00] <shadeslayer> hmm, debian installs to usr/bin/blinken
[13:01] <yofel> shadeslayer: you're looking at the wrong debian branch....
[13:01] <Riddell> mm, are you sure debian doesn't have it?
[13:01] <yofel> http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-kde/kde-sc/blinken.git;a=blob;f=debian/rules;h=24e3402146e7ffd7331029c79c321c6910e9e624;hb=kde4.10
[13:01] <Riddell> that doesn't look like something we'd add
[13:02] <yofel> debian has it
[13:02] <Riddell> shadeslayer: you talking about 4.10.4?
[13:04] <yofel> Riddell: also, please commit your changes to bzr the moment you upload them (better: generate the package from bzr)
[13:04] <yofel> If it was you, then I overwrote your kdepim upload yesterday evening
[13:04] <shadeslayer> oh
[13:05] <yofel> we even have bzr-buildpackage-ppa which makes the building trivial
[13:06] <Riddell> I don't think I know bzr-buildpackage-ppa
[13:07] <shadeslayer> yofel: I was probably on the wrong branch I guess
[13:07] <yofel> Riddell: it's (a bit misplaced) part of the kubuntu-automation repo
[13:07] <yofel> shadeslayer: right ;)
[13:07] <shadeslayer> because only blinken has a 4.10 branch :P
[13:07] <yofel> Riddell: used by kubuntu-initial upload to set ppa version and release in the changelog and generate the package
[13:08] <yofel> that way you can leave bzr always set to ".4) UNRELEASED" and just run bzr-buildpackage-ppa -s <num>
[13:08] <shadeslayer> so, anyone looking at blinken then ? e
[13:41] <cyphermox> Riddell: shadeslayer: as I recall the security team wasn't especially happy with vpnc when we did the MIR for it
[13:41] <cyphermox> it's something to revisit
[13:43]  * Riddell syncs mplayerthumbs
[13:52]  * Riddell gets onto blinken in 4.10.4
[13:55] <soee> anyone using mysql workbench ?
[14:22] <Riddell> ScottK: can I move 4.10.3 to raring-updates?
[14:53] <markey> yofel: for that Qt package, what is the apt-add-repository line?
[14:53] <yofel> markey: ppa:yofel/staging1
[14:53] <markey> thanks
[14:55] <markey> yofel: is there any risk with installing this package? can I revert it if things go south? cause this is my production machine
[14:56] <yofel> markey: hm, it has only that one patch removed so should be safe, reverting might be tricky as you would have to downgrade all qt libs but if something happens I can upload a rebuild of the offical raring package with a higher version
[14:56] <markey> ok cool, I'll do it
[14:57] <yofel> markey: only remember to disable the ppa after updating please
[14:57] <markey> yes
[15:17] <markey> yofel: I have very good preliminary results: the package appears to fix the QtScript crashing with Amarok :))
[15:21] <starbuck1> Riddell: any update on 4.10.3 in public repos?
[15:22] <starbuck1> 4.10.4 just around the corner
[15:23] <Riddell> starbuck1: it's in the -proposed, it's all tested so I was waiting on an sru person to move it to -updates
[15:23] <Riddell> starbuck1: I think I can just do that myself but need to check the protocol
[15:23] <starbuck1> thanks that be great
[15:23] <starbuck1> then its available for all people even without any PPA?
[15:24] <Riddell> starbuck1: yep
[15:24] <yofel> Riddell: will you upload .4 for raring then? If not ping me once .3 is out and I'll do it
[15:25] <Riddell> yofel: into kubuntu-ninjas?
[15:25] <yofel> yes
[15:27] <Riddell> might have to run off before I get a chance to do that
[15:27] <Riddell> will ping if so
[15:27] <yofel> ok
[15:28] <markey> yofel: will the fixed Qt packaged be pushed downstream, after some more testing?
[15:28] <markey> I think that would be good
[15:28] <markey> s/packaged/package
[15:29] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1176686] qtchooser does not properly work with multiarch @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1176686 (by Harald Sitter)
[15:29] <yofel> markey: if you say it works I'll file a SRU for it. Saucy is fixed so only raring is left.
[15:30] <markey> yofel: let me test it some more, and tomorrow I'll give you the final results, ok?
[15:30] <markey> just to be sure
[15:30] <yofel> sure
[15:30] <yofel> thanks
[15:31] <markey> rdieter: big thanks again for pointing us to this QtScript issue! you've saved us a big headache :)
[15:33] <markey> with that issue fixed, and the other fix from Amarok 2.7.1, Amarok should now be really stable again. before it was a crashfest
[15:33] <yofel> markey: what's the status of that issue on quantal and precise btw.? There we have 2.7.1 together with qt 4.8.3 and 4.8.2. 
[15:33] <yofel> (in the backports)
[15:34] <markey> yofel: the same problem then
[15:34] <yofel> hmkay, I'll look at it
[15:34] <markey> the QtScript bug has affected all Amarok versions in the last two years...
[15:35] <jessie> Which explains why so much crashing.
[15:35] <markey> indeed 
[15:35] <markey> for us this fix means a lot, as you can imagine. it sucks if your application crashes without it being your fault
[15:36] <yofel> hm... if this has been happing the last 2 years we'll have a few amarok/qt combinations to fix (2.7.1/4.8.4, 2.7.1/4.8.3, 2.7.1/4.8.2, 2.6.0/4.8.3, 2.5.0/4.8.2)
[15:37] <markey> the original Amarok bug was reported on 2011-01-02: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261839
[15:40] <markey> that said... it doesn't shine a positive light on Qt, having such an atrocious bug around for years
[15:42] <debfx> Riddell: where does pbuilder need aptitude outside the chroot?
[15:43] <Riddell> yofel, starbuck1: no .3 in yet, needs ScottK to do it
[15:43] <Riddell> debfx: pbuilder-satisfydepends
[15:43] <Riddell> debfx: I'm forever installing pbuilder, running pbuilder-satisfydepends and getting grumpy cos it breaks without aptitude
[15:44] <debfx> Riddell: yeah but that's run inside the chroot
[15:44] <Riddell> debfx: I run it manually
[15:44] <starbuck1> Riddell: when is that about to be in with Scottk?
[15:44] <debfx> I'd say that's a very uncommon use case
[15:45] <Riddell> starbuck1: whenever he has some spare minutes to do it
[15:45] <yofel> Riddell: aptitude is just the default as it works best, you could use pbuilder-satisfydepends-classic without aptitude
[15:45] <Riddell> debfx: if I run debuild it tells me to run pbuilder-satisfydepends
[15:45] <Riddell> yofel: I could, but debuild doesn't tell me to do that
[15:46] <yofel> debuild tells to use pbuilder-satisfydepends o.O?
[15:46] <debfx> what does debuild have to do with pbuilder?
[15:46] <Riddell> only that it recommends pbuilder-satisfydepends if you have missing build-depends
[15:54] <debfx> ah, so you're using debuild-pbuilder
[15:57] <starbuck1> ScottK: can you spare a few minutes according to Riddell to get the .3 release in the open, that would be faboulous!
[16:01] <Riddell> yofel: are you able to do a bzr update on kubuntu-automation for build_status_4.10.4_saucy.html ?
[16:01] <Riddell> I've added various ignores
[16:01] <yofel> sure, sec
[16:04] <yofel> Riddell: done
[16:05] <Riddell> uh oh
[16:05] <yofel> hmm... somethign went wrong
[16:05] <Riddell> I broke it :(
[16:06] <Riddell> yofel: fixed
[16:07] <Riddell> shadeslayer: is there a kdesc-packages-saucy.txt ?
[16:07] <Riddell> yofel: sorry got to go
[16:07] <shadeslayer> Riddell: uh, I just copied kdesc-packages-raring.txt
[16:08] <shadeslayer> though that's not pushed to bzr yet
[16:08] <yofel> hm, not quite fixed
[16:09] <Riddell> does it object to a trailing comma?
[16:09] <Riddell> yofel: updated
[16:09]  * Riddell skedaddles
[16:16] <yofel> ok, I think I fixed everything now
[16:18] <yofel> you don't want to fix dep5 issues? ^^
[16:19]  * yofel wonders if a package should be red when there' lintian *Error*'s
[16:29] <yofel> bbl
[16:54] <shadeslayer> wait what
[16:54] <shadeslayer> UTAH is being replaced?
[16:54] <shadeslayer> with something called otto
[16:57] <shadeslayer> https://launchpad.net/otto
[17:19] <yofel> shadeslayer: fun
[19:39] <ahoneybun> palasso: hey
[19:39] <palasso> ahoneybun, hey ;)
[19:39] <ahoneybun> whats u[p
[19:39] <palasso> nothing much
[20:00] <jessie> Why is my Kontact crashing saying, "Failed to fetch the resource collection."
[21:01] <soee> hiho
[22:10] <ScottK> Riddell: On it.
[22:26] <ScottK> starbuck11: It's done now.  It should hit mirrors starting in about an hour.
[22:28] <yofel> thanks ScottK!
[22:28]  * yofel runs the script for raring
[22:28] <ScottK> yw.
[22:40] <starbuck11> ScottK: thanks a lot!
[23:07]  * yofel removes mplayerthumbs from raring package list again...
[23:10] <yofel> added some error handling too while at it