[02:22] <tgreer> .wc
[12:16] <shadeslayer> ogra: can you spin one more Nexus 7 Kubuntu Active image? or give me the scripts to do that?
[12:16] <ogra> a) the scripts wont help you and b) there is no desktop kernel for the nexus7 anymore in saucy
[12:16] <shadeslayer> I have access to a N7 now and can investigate why things are going wrong on the desktop image
[12:17] <shadeslayer> bah
[12:17] <ogra> you could change your seeds to use the ubuntu touch kernel, but would then end up without touchscreen support
[12:17] <shadeslayer> ogra: mostly it seems like the OEM thingy doesn't run post boot
[12:18] <shadeslayer> wait, isn't the kernel image separate from the one that's flashed to the data partition?
[12:18] <shadeslayer> so why can't we use the kernel image that's already there + a different rootfs
[12:18] <ogra> no
[12:18] <shadeslayer> uhhh
[12:18] <shadeslayer> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-active/daily-preinstalled/current/raring-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+nexus7.bootimg < isn't that the kernel + initramfs?
[12:18] <ogra> well, the kernel would be, but the installl updates the initrd which in turn updates the kernel from /boot
[12:19] <ogra> yes
[12:19] <shadeslayer> ah
[12:19] <ogra> but you need to re-roll the initrd after first boot
[12:19] <shadeslayer> I see
[12:21] <shadeslayer> ogra: can we bring the desktop kernel back? How much of a headache would it be to maintain it?
[12:22] <shadeslayer> since the one in raring already works, would it need much work to get it to boot saucy?
[12:22] <ogra> you could use the linux-grouper tree with a different config and patches added to make touch input work
[12:23] <ogra> ask the kernel team, i dont know how much work it is ...
[12:23] <shadeslayer> oh okay
[12:25] <shadeslayer> ogra: oh, one more question, why would the touch not work with the ubuntu touch kernel?
[12:26] <ogra> because it needs a hack to the touchscreen driver (which breaks it on touch)
[12:26] <ogra> and indeed a completely different config
[12:26] <ogra> touch uses all the android bits
[12:27] <shadeslayer> I see
[13:14] <hrw> ogra: does Ubuntu has working installer for any ARM device?
[13:14] <ogra> ac100
[13:15] <ogra> and if you want d-i/ubiquity ... pandaboard
[13:15] <hrw> ogra: where I can read about it?
[13:16] <xnox> wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubiquity ?!
[13:16] <ogra> hrw, about what specifically ?
[13:16] <hrw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TEGRA/AC100 found
[13:16] <ogra> d-i or preinstalled ?
[13:16] <xnox> for pandaboard it's bog-standard ubiquity just like on the desktop. For ac100, it's pre-installed system running in oem-config mode.
[13:17] <hrw> ogra: thinking of a way to get more usable installer for chromebook than JayLee script
[13:17] <ogra> preinstalled uses the ac100-tarball-nstaller package ... i guess yu need to read the source, it doesnt have any additional docu
[23:16] <doomlord_> Does ubuntu arm run on the MK908 quadcore
[23:35] <FreezingCold> Would you say Ubuntu ARM is suitable for a production system or not yet?