[12:17] <phako> I'm getting a lot of
[12:17] <phako> systemd-udevd[2413]: failed to execute '/lib/udev/socket:@/org/freedesktop/hal/udev_event' 'socket:@/org/freedesktop/hal/udev_event': No such file or directory
[12:18] <phako> is there a way to get rid of those?
[15:50] <ricotz> darkxst, hi
[15:51] <ricotz> darkxst, please if you sync a package from debian or saucy make sure you tweak the version to be lower
[15:51] <ricotz> and don't add a ubuntu1 suffix if you sync from debian
[15:52] <ricotz> otherwise it can/will breaks upgrade-paths
[15:53] <ricotz>  gnome-online-accounts - 3.8.2-1ubuntu1  > 3.8.2-1~raring1
[15:56] <jbicha> also gnome-online-accounts 3.8 isn't quite integrated with gnome-control-center 3.6 but I don't know if it's just cosmetic (missing icons)
[15:58] <ricotz> jbicha, hi, it didnt take long to get some kind of usable webkit packages ;)
[16:00] <jbicha> ricotz: why don't ask seb128 if he'd be interested in it for the saucy desktop ppa?
[16:00] <ricotz> jbicha, i dont want to annoy
[16:01] <ricotz> him
[16:02] <jbicha> I don't think he'd be annoyed (as he likes testing disruptive things in that ppa first) but I think they're still in a meeting right now
[16:02] <ricotz> jbicha, due the added dh-autoreconf it also needs automake1.13 or at least 1.12
[16:02] <jbicha> I think 1.13 is default in saucy now
[16:03] <ricotz> jbicha, not sure, i am getting the feeling i am annoying him
[16:03] <ricotz> jbicha, yes for saucy it is fine
[16:03] <ricotz> jbicha, just the symbols file needs to be updated properly
[16:04] <jbicha> oh you're saying it's harder to update for raring users? hmm
[16:04] <ricotz> no it is just harder to build it on raring
[16:05] <ricotz> i added automake1.13 to my ppa where i built it
[16:05] <jbicha> I got the symbols halfway updated, https://launchpad.net/~jbicha/+archive/dev/+build/4638420
[16:05] <ricotz> i already copied it to the gnome3 ppa (harfbuzz, pango1.0, webkit)
[16:06] <ricotz> yeah, my builds are using -c0 so the should provider complete diffs
[16:06] <ricotz> for amd64/i386
[16:07] <ricotz> but needs to be marked optional or arch specific then in most cases
[20:09] <meetas> how unstable is the gnome3 staging ppa?
[20:27] <bjsnider> like to know that myself, would i
[20:33] <jbicha> you can get an idea of the remaining 3.8 issues from https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-gnome-3-8
[20:47] <elrow> Hello, i have a good news ! I've install ubuntu gnome
[20:48] <elrow> Also, i've got a problem afer the intalation, i've got a kernel panic. "/init was not found" any idea ?
[20:50] <elrow> i've try pass init=/sbin/init in the grub console, but it doesn't work. can you help me ?
[20:59] <tommie-lie1> sounds bad, are you sure you've got the initrd installed? it's usually called /boot/initrd.img-$KERNELVERSION
[21:01] <elrow> yes it initrd /boot/initrd.omg-3.8.0-19-generic
[21:02] <elrow> however, it may be a partition problem hen i install ubunru. I'm checking this
[21:03] <elrow> img* ubuntu* sorry
[21:03] <Forage> The latest updates for the gnome3 ppa appear to be b0rked
[21:04] <Forage> as soon as I try to update the pango and/or webkit packages, it will try to remove quite a load of other installed packages
[21:05] <Forage> from almost all gnome packages to firefox and libreoffice, vlc to transmission, etc
[21:07] <Forage> anyone else noticing this as well?
[21:16] <elrow> no i try to launchu ubuntu on my side :)
[21:22] <jbicha> Forage: does sudo apt-get dist-upgrade work?
[21:38] <elrow> my problem with the /init not found (kernel panic) could became of a wrong install directory of grub ?
[22:05] <plokami666> Hello. I have a question. I have a fresh install of ubuntu and on top of that I installed gnome 3.8. I wouldn't mind re-installing so, would it be a good idea to install gnome ubuntu instead? And if so, why?
[22:09] <gonyere> plokami666 - at this point it probably doesn't make any difference
[22:09] <Forage> jbicha: yes, it does
[22:10] <Forage> strange
[22:10] <gonyere> but in the future if you want gnome on ubuntu, i'd suggesting using ubuntu-gnome
[22:10] <plokami666> Can you explain why please?
[22:11] <plokami666> Is it simply to avoid the extra space unity takes up or are there any other reasons?
[22:11] <Forage> plokami666: isn't that, and the fact that it is easier reason enough? ;-)
[22:13] <plokami666> Well, yes I suppose
[22:14] <plokami666> To be honest, I've never used an official derivative. The only derivative I've used (and I'm currently using) is mint and it's a bit different than ubuntu itself. And not just in the different DE.
[22:14] <plokami666> That's why I'm asking, basically.
[22:14] <plokami666> I did read the FAQ. I'm just trying to make sure things aren't missing, I guess
[22:18] <Forage> plokami666: ubuntu gnome was introduced to provide and out of the box full gnome experience. If that's what you are after than it is an easy choice. Differences compared to stock Ubuntu are minimal and listed on the website. If you are OK with those changes it just saves to having to go through the trouble of creating the same thing manually from stock ubuntu
[22:18] <plokami666> Forage: thank you for the response, that's all I wanted to know
[22:18] <plokami666> Have a good day ^^
[22:18] <Forage> np
[22:24] <Forage> jbicha: I took the dist-upgrade route without any problems. I didn't expect it to be needed any more after the first round of ppa updates. I take it this isn't some form of bug but just something that can't be avoided?
[22:25] <jbicha> Forage: the dist-upgrade was necessary to reduce the diff with Saucy
[22:27] <Forage> jbicha: ok, than I'll try that route when I run into the same issue again. Thanks for the help
[22:28] <darkxst> jbicha, goa 3.8 should work fine with g-c-c 3.6
[22:29] <darkxst> I am not missing any icons (well not all providers have icons, but that is the same in g-c-c 3.8)
[22:33] <jbicha> darkxst: should I sync goa 3.8 from Debian to saucy then?
[22:33] <darkxst> jbicha, yeh