[15:59] <smoser> o/
[15:59] <smoser> gah.
[15:59] <hallyn> o/
[15:59] <hallyn> ?
[15:59]  * smoser gets to chair. 
[16:00] <hallyn> \o/
[16:00] <arosales> hello
[16:01] <smoser> ok. lets start
[16:01] <smoser> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
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[16:01] <smoser> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:01] <adam_g> o/
[16:01] <arosales> smoser, I ~still~ need to contact norvald
[16:02] <arosales> :-/
[16:02] <arosales> sorry
[16:02] <arosales> I _will_ send an email today
[16:02] <smoser> ACTION: carried foward.     (carried forward)
[16:02] <smoser> #ACTION arosales [carried forward] to follow up with Norvald regarding SRU
[16:02] <meetingology> ACTION: arosales [carried forward] to follow up with Norvald regarding SRU
[16:03] <smoser> there.
[16:03]  * smoser thanks arosales for the cut and paste commands at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting/IRCCommands
[16:03] <hallyn> +1
[16:03] <smoser> #topic Raring Development
[16:03] <smoser> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule
[16:04] <smoser> hm..
[16:04] <smoser> where is our url for pretty graphs like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule
[16:04] <smoser> gah
[16:04] <smoser> like
[16:04] <roaksoax> o/
[16:04] <smoser>  http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/
[16:04] <smb> Sounds a tad outdated?
[16:04] <arosales> I just updated them, I think another kind person originally made it.
[16:04] <arosales> smoser, I think I need to make a topic url
[16:04] <smoser> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule
[16:04] <arosales> sorry a topic blueprint
[16:04] <smoser> can i action you for that ?
[16:04] <arosales> #action arosales create a overview topic bp for servercloud
[16:04] <meetingology> ACTION: arosales create a overview topic bp for servercloud
[16:05] <smoser> good.
[16:05]  * arosales think I also volunteered for that last week, running behind on my todos :-(
[16:05] <smoser> #subtopic Release Bugs
[16:05] <smoser> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-r-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server
[16:06] <smoser> i dont know how relevant that url is at this point in the cycle.
[16:06] <smoser> (in addition to the fact that i posted a -r- url again)
[16:06] <smoser> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-s-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server
[16:06] <smoser> #topic Blueprints
[16:07] <smoser> we need some help from here from arosales, so next week we'll have a pretty graph.
[16:07]  * arosales will work on that _today_
[16:07] <smoser> ok. so 2 things here.
[16:08] <smoser> a.) if you have expected work for 13.04 that is not covered by a blueprint starting with 'servercloud-s-' at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~davewalker/+specs?role=approver
[16:08] <smoser>   then please contact myself or jamespage to help you get on that list.
[16:09] <smoser> b.) if you have something on that list in some state other than 'Approved', then you should make some effort to change that.
[16:09] <smoser>  (smoser looks in a mirror and says "I'm talking to you")
[16:09] <smoser> other blueprints in such a state are:
[16:09] <smoser> servercloud-s-cloud-kvm-on-arm: hallyn
[16:10] <smoser> servercloud-s-enterprise-testing: jamespage
[16:10] <smoser> servercloud-s-fastpath-install: smoser
[16:10]  * hallyn not sure what that means. 
[16:10] <smoser> servercloud-s-interlock: Daviey
[16:10] <smoser> servercloud-s-maas-next-steps: roaksoax
[16:10] <smoser> servercloud-s-openstack-hypervisor: zul
[16:10] <smoser> servercloud-s-openstack-pkg: zul
[16:11] <hallyn> smoser: can you please drop servercloud-s-cloud-kvm-on-arm ?
[16:11] <smoser> one other one for zul and one for smoser.
[16:11] <hallyn> or cani do that, hm
[16:11] <zul> can you drop servercloud-s-oepnstack-pkg: its going to be folded into the main openstck blueprint
[16:12] <smoser> hm..
[16:12] <smoser> ok. we'll figure out what to do on those.
[16:12] <hallyn> thx
[16:12] <hallyn> i marked it deferred for now.
[16:13] <smoser> just put both of them as 'definition: obsolete'
[16:13] <smoser> zul, ^
[16:13] <hallyn> ok
[16:13] <zul> ok cool
[16:13] <smoser> anyone have anything else here?
[16:13] <smoser> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:14] <smoser> anyone have events coming up ?
[16:14] <smoser> ok. i dont. so moving on.
[16:14] <smoser> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars)
[16:14] <psivaa> i am in for plars today
[16:15] <psivaa> nothing much from our side
[16:15] <smoser> anyone have questions for psivaa ?
[16:15] <smoser> k. moving on. thanks for coming p
[16:15] <smoser> k. moving on. thanks for coming psivaa
[16:15] <smoser> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:15] <smb> No kernel specific things to report (some user-space issues, though). Maybe I should remind anybody having kernel problems which I should (or am supposed to) be looking at, to remind me (again) if I have not been active on reports. Are there questions?
[16:16] <smb> smoser, And I likely will try to talk to you about Xen stable (micro) updates and tech-board at some point later...
[16:16] <smb> ...
[16:16] <smoser> i dont have anything for you, smb.
[16:16] <smoser> sometime, sooner than later, daviey or i or someone needs to look at "medium" sized kernel for server
[16:17] <hallyn> smb: do you know if there are any overlayfs work items for kernel?
[16:17] <smoser> (ie, one block net and other important-to-server modules, but not "desktop" like drivers)
[16:17] <smb> hallyn, I thought apw was doing something
[16:17] <hallyn> (there are some (well at least one) open bugs, wondering if fixing them is going to be actively done, or passively waited for)
[16:17] <hallyn> if anyone was i assumed it was him :)
[16:18] <hallyn> just wondering, i can looka round later
[16:18] <smoser> hallyn, you have a list of said bugs ? it would be good to have them collected if nothing else.
[16:18] <smoser> i'd be interested in seeing it.
[16:18]  * smoser has been bit by no inotify support
[16:18] <smoser> bug 882147
[16:18] <smb> smoser, The medium size package thing, you probably may be successful in replacing current virtual, but there was not much rejoice for having yet another type
[16:18] <hallyn> no not really. and i just deleted the emails
[16:19] <smoser> good thinking on deleting stuff, hallyn :)
[16:19] <smb> never leave paper trail. :)
[16:20] <smoser> smoser, on medium sized, the goal woudl be replace -virtual, but i could see me asking for small medium an large for 13.10, one of which to be dropped for 14.04
[16:20] <smoser> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
[16:20] <smoser> rbasak, howdy
[16:20] <rbasak> Hi
[16:20] <rbasak> Nothing to report. Any questions for me?
[16:21] <rbasak> I'm looking at a golang FTBFS that affects saucy but not sid
[16:21] <smoser> nice.
[16:21] <rbasak> That's about all in the ARM world right now.
[16:21] <smoser> #topic Open Discussion
[16:21] <hallyn> smoser: smb: bug 1098378
[16:21] <hallyn> (and bug 1007089)
[16:21] <rbasak> I've applied for Ubuntu server dev upload rights.
[16:22] <rbasak> Comments and/or endorsements appreciated: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RobieBasak/ServerDeveloperApplication
[16:22] <smoser> hallyn, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bugs?field.tag=overlayfs
[16:22] <smb> hallyn, I will fwd them
[16:23] <smoser> i just tagged those 3 bugs with 'overlayfs'
[16:23] <hallyn> smoser: cool, thanks
[16:23] <smoser> oh.. as far as endorsements go...
[16:23]  * xnox wishes for 882147 (inotify) to be fixed =))))
[16:24] <smoser> caribou, is also seeking contributing developer
[16:24] <caribou> smoser: indeed I am
[16:25] <smoser> so anyone who's seen his good work (myself included) should feel free/priviledge/expected to update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LouisBouchard
[16:25]  * caribou would be honoured :-)
[16:25] <smoser> anything else ?
[16:26] <smoser> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
[16:26] <smoser> this concludes our regularly scheduled program
[16:26] <smoser> tune in next week for more exciting server team development
[16:26] <rbasak> Thanks for chairing, smoser!
[16:26] <smoser> next meeting Tuesday 2013-06-11 at 1600 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting
[16:26] <smoser> #endmeeting
[16:26] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jun  4 16:26:58 2013 UTC.
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[16:30] <arosales> smoser, thanks for chairing
[16:32] <jamespage> o/
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #startmeeting
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun  4 17:00:18 2013 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Saucy
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # Meeting Etiquette
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting
[17:00] <ppisati> o/
[17:01]  * smb here
[17:01] <henrix> o/
[17:01] <cking> o/
[17:01] <kamal> o/
[17:01] <apw> o/
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:01] <ppisati> Q/master: lp1176977 ("XFS instability on armhf under load") - cherry picked
[17:01] <ppisati> more fixes for the preallocation code, rerun the swift benchmark with different
[17:01] <ppisati> fs sizes but unfortunately some xfs tests failed, under investigation.
[17:01] <ppisati> */highbank: lp1182637("cpu_offlining fails to run on ARM") - little progress on
[17:01] <ppisati> this one, but i'm still working on it.
[17:01] <ppisati> ..
[17:01] <ogasawara> quick question...
[17:01] <ppisati> yep
[17:02] <ogasawara> have we helped test the Nexus 7 kernel for phonedations?
[17:02] <ogasawara> I recall they said they didn't have the hw
[17:02] <ogasawara> and that was the only blocker from it landing in the touch images
[17:02] <apw> i believe rtg was doing so
[17:02] <ogasawara> ah, I'll sync with him upon his return then
[17:02] <ogasawara> ..
[17:02] <apw> failing that i have h/w as well
[17:03] <bjf[afk]> i as well
[17:03]  * ppisati too
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:03] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:03] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
[17:04] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-distro-team/+upcomingwork
[17:04] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/canonical-kernel-distro-team.html
[17:04] <ogasawara> || ogasawara || foundations-1305-kernel || 1 work item ||
[17:04] <ogasawara> ||           || mobile-power-management || 1 work item ||
[17:04] <ogasawara> || rtg       || foundations-1303-phablet-kernel-maintenance || 2 work items ||
[17:04] <ogasawara> || sforshee  || foundations-1303-phablet-kernel-maintenance || 1 work item ||
[17:04] <ogasawara> || smb       || servercloud-s-virtstack || 1 work item  ||
[17:04] <ogasawara> It appears not all the blueprints are setting the series properly and thus we may be missing some
[17:04] <ogasawara>  work items for our team.  I'll review any oversights and update the table next week.
[17:04] <ogasawara> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Saucy Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:04] <ogasawara> Our Saucy unstable branch has been rebased to the latest v3.10-rc4
[17:04] <ogasawara> upstream kernel.  Saucy master-next is currently at v3.9.4.  We are
[17:04] <ogasawara> debugging some boot issues with the v3.10-rc4 rebase, so will hold off
[17:04] <ogasawara> on uploading a v3.10 based kernel until those are resolved.
[17:04] <ogasawara> We still anticipate an AppArmor pull request this week from the security
[17:04] <ogasawara> team to get the latest AppArmor patches into our phablet kernels.
[17:04] <ogasawara> Important upcoming dates:
[17:04] <ogasawara> Thurs June 20 - Alpha 1 (opt in)
[17:04] <ogasawara> ..
[17:05] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (sconklin)
[17:05] <bjf> Currently we have 71 CVEs on our radar, with 2 CVEs added and 0 CVEs retired in the last week.
[17:05] <bjf> See the CVE matrix for the current list:
[17:05] <bjf> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:05] <bjf> Overall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:
[17:05] <bjf> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt
[17:05] <bjf> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:05] <bjf> ..
[17:05] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Raring/Quantal/Precise/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/henrix/sconklin)
[17:06] <bjf> Status for the main kernels, until today (Jun. 04):
[17:06] <bjf> *   Lucid - In Verification;
[17:06] <bjf> * Precise - In Verification;
[17:06] <bjf> * Quantal - In Verification;
[17:06] <bjf> * Raring  - In Verification;
[17:06] <bjf> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:06] <bjf> * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:06] <bjf> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:06] <bjf> * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:06] <bjf> Future stable cadence cycles:
[17:06] <bjf> * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseInterlock
[17:06] <bjf> ..
[17:06] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:06] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:06] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:06] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jun  4 17:06:47 2013 UTC.
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[17:06] <kamal> thanks jsalisbury
[17:07] <apw> byee
[17:07] <cking> thanks jsalisbury
[19:47] <linuxCool> startmeeting samba
[19:47] <linuxCool> :)
[19:47] <linuxCool> #startmeeting samba
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[19:48] <linuxCool> Lets talk about samba
[19:50] <linuxCool> #meetingtopic samba share
[19:53] <stgraber> #endmeeting
[19:53] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jun  4 19:53:39 2013 UTC.
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[19:54] <linuxCool> stgraber:why?
[19:54] <linuxCool> stgraber: i need talk about samba
[19:57] <stgraber> linuxCool: I'm not seeing any scheduled samba meetin on the fridge and this isn't an Ubuntu team meeting, so if you just have questions about samba in Ubuntu, I'd suggest asking them in #ubuntu-server instead of using #ubuntu-meeting which is reserved for team meetings
[19:59] <linuxCool> stgraber: ok  how can I join the team?
[20:04] <linuxCool> stgraber: ???
[20:05] <stgraber> linuxCool: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam is probably a good start
[20:12] <linuxCool> stgraber: 10x
[20:12] <linuxCool> :)