[01:15] balloons: just as we get the extra pages on, are quality going to use the iso-tracker theme? http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker for tables etc with the header of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/QATracker ? [02:05] phillw, ? [02:06] i'm confused by what you mean [02:12] balloons: just the theme for the top of the pages and what colour code I use in the tables that we use :D [02:12] lol.. I like nice looking things.. [02:34] balloons: do you want them sync'd up? Im out of brain time now for writing stuff, but can do artwork stuff :D [02:41] are you in favour of bold black, as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule or bold white as per http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker (Choose one, it is not too difficault to change later!!) [02:41] balloons: ^^ [02:41] phillw, black pls [02:43] balloons: I concur as that is the format of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule [02:44] We can ask for a change by stgraber to the iso tracker [02:44] :-p [02:44] it's a simple merge request I'd guess [02:44] knome could help if nothing else :- [02:45] it's not too hard to edit the exisitng wiki pages. you have asked for us to be branded with a theme. [02:49] balloons: so, header of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/QATracker is the one you want, and bold black on grey as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule is what you wish for? [02:49] * balloons notes he is mostly asleep and feels like he's being asked to make an important decision [02:50] yup, White or black :P [02:50] i'm not sure of what the bold black on grey is changing [02:50] but sure [02:50] black not white [02:50] i don't think i can say more than that [02:50] surprise me ;-) [02:52] balloons: It's not a big issue, except that we have to manually change the wiki pages. stgraber can alter the iso-tracker by using the css he has. [02:54] I'll get https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Saucy/ set to what is suggested before I hit the sack. [03:00] balloons: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Saucy [03:01] that fit the theme? [03:06] ohh nice [03:11] I'll chat with stgraber later, I think we can get get the same theme across both iso-tracker and the QA area. But, as daft as it seems, having the the same theme is important. [04:49] Good morning [04:50] hi pitti :) [06:50] good morning === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|lunch === mmrazik|lunch is now known as mmrazik [11:47] good afternoon :) [12:00] hi :) [12:00] stgraber: pingly [12:02] stgraber: I'm kind of looking into UTAH and need some help setting it up, I was wondering if you have 10 minutes to help me through that :) [12:24] hi everyone [12:24] is it the hackfest now? [12:24] brb [12:24] hi samgabbay, yeah it is :D [12:25] Hi Guys Sam here from the QATeam :) [12:27] greetingd [12:31] can someone send me the browser tor bundle on a mega.co.il or something upload service because i cant download it its blocked for windows [13:05] balloons, hows it goin mate? quiet start to the hackfest i see :) [13:11] something [13:11] something?? [13:16] woops [13:16] i thought i was disconnected [13:16] haahah [13:16] stupid me [13:16] :P [13:17] jibel: following the "disable apparmor bits" step in otto doc/README.. [13:17] jibel: doesn't that need some kind of restarting/reloading AA? [13:18] or is that done by that apparmor_parser -R command? [13:19] pitti, I don't think so since the definition is removed by apparmor_parser [13:19] great [13:19] stopping my normal session then to otto into today's iso and debug udev, bbl [13:23] jibel: hmm [13:23] jibel: README says to do "sudo bin/otto create saucy" [13:23] jibel: but that now says it wants an image name in addition [13:24] jibel: but if I do that and append ~/.../saucy.iso, I get an OSError about an "invalid cross-device link" [13:24] pitti, oh, we changed that and it is not reflected in the README [13:24] jibel: oh, it uses os.link(); I guess you actually want os.symlink()? [13:25] (my /home is on a different partition than /var) [13:25] pitti, well we wanted a hard link [13:25] in case the original image is deleted [13:25] and save disk space without doing an actual copy [13:26] hm, perhaps try: os.link except: os.symlink? [13:26] pitti, right [13:26] it gets a little further with symlink, but then crashes on accessing None [13:27] it complains that the lxc symlink is not an iso, investigating [13:28] ah, it calls file [13:28] do you guys recommend that i install ubuntu on a windows 7 computer thats my school computer but that i get to keep but i wnt ubuntu but im not sure if i should just install it over wubi [13:30] jibel: ok, got it [13:31] jibel: how is the start command supposed to look like now? I tried "sudo bin/otto start s" (my container name is "s"), that crashes on "if self.config.command == ..." with "ConfigGenerator object has no attribute command" [13:35] pitti, hm, looking [13:35] pitti, I cannot reproduce the udev hang on a minimal container [13:35] jibel: I could add a hasattr(), but I wonder if that's the right approach; storing the CLI command in the config seems a bit odd [13:36] I did that, now it fails to start the container; not my day :( [13:37] pitti, it is not you, we've been so focused on releasing it for the daily release, that we very likely missed lot of cases [13:37] pitti: have you created a new container first? [13:38] because this should add the command parameter [13:38] pitti: the container model has changed, you need to create a new fresh one now [13:38] didrocks: yes, right before that (and on each retry I purge /var/lib/lxc/*) [13:38] hum [13:38] I'm redoing an otto setup from scratch on my machien [13:38] is it the hackfest? [13:38] let me try without --upgrade [13:39] samgabbay, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Hackfest/20130604 [13:39] take your pick :D [13:40] didrocks, jibel: I pushed the symlink fallback, and otherwise reverted to r89 (my last known-good checkout), have a running saucy iso now [13:40] * pitti goes to dive into udev [13:40] symlink? [13:40] I probably missed something :) [13:41] didrocks: see backscroll from 15:23:52 [13:41] didrocks, hard link fails on cross-devices so it falls back to a symlink in that case [13:41] pitti: I joined at 15:31:57 :p [13:41] jibel: ah ok ;) [13:42] we have a hackfest today? [13:42] ok, it's the fact to not use --upgrade [13:42] pitti: ^ [13:42] let me fix that case [13:42] didrocks: yeah, figured as much; but when I add a hasattr(), it gets beyond that but then fails to start the container [13:42] didrocks: (but I stopped investigating at this point) [13:42] pitti: yeah, I guess a bunch of variable are missing, let me fix that now :) [13:42] * pitti hugs didrocks [13:43] pitti, yes i believe so. Although i have not seen balloons around to confirm though apart from yesterdays email [13:43] didrocks, fix the bugs and I'll fix the doc :) [13:43] * didrocks hugs pitti back, sorry you didn't try our main case :) [13:43] jibel: heh :p [14:01] jibel: pitti: rev 206 should fix it [14:03] didrocks, nope http://paste.ubuntu.com/5732677/ [14:03] jibel: did you start it with -C? [14:03] oh silly me [14:04] * didrocks wonders why this worked though, without -C, should have not worked with .iso… [14:04] seems that getattr doesn't call __getattribute__ [14:08] jibel: couldn't reproduce it, weird, but rev 207 should be fine [14:13] yes yes.. I hear I said #ubuntu-testing :-( [14:13] that's the old channel [14:14] bad balloons [14:14] DanChapman, it's a busy day today.. [14:14] it is guys [14:16] how up to date is the autopilot documentation ... I'm looking at our autopilot tests lp:ubuntu-autopilot-tests and we don't have some of the directories in each package name that the documentation talks about ... more specifically it suggests creating an emulators and tests folder [14:17] don't want to screw up too royally on my first attempt to make a test :-) [14:18] am i assigned to anything yet? [14:21] wait ... re-read the section ... its all suggested never mind sorry everyone [14:22] shadeslayer: I'm affraid I never really used UTAH directly so can't really help you there [14:24] samgabbay, you pick something you want to work on [14:24] svwilliams, where is the doc links your talking about? [14:25] samgabbay, no nothing assigned.. feel free to grab a bug or contribute something new :-) [14:25] samgabbay, did you want to write a manual or autopilot test? [14:25] balloons, http://unity.ubuntu.com/autopilot/tutorial/getting_started.html [14:26] svwilliams, that should be good, but it's written with a QT perspective [14:27] lp:ubuntu-autopilot-tests/production is useful also as stable examples which have been converted and are ready for production: lp:ubuntu-autopilot-tests/production [14:28] balloons, I will propose evince within the next hour. I had finished it yesterday but saucy completely whacked out and had to re-install so lost it and had to start again. Booo! [14:28] DanChapman, :-( [14:28] balloons: nope :? [14:31] balloons: what do i have to do? [14:31] samgabbay, you don't no which type your interested in? Manual testcases are easier to write in that you don't need to know python to do it [14:31] if you've not written any tests, try starting there [14:31] balloons, how could i check that evince is full screen? I can't seem to find a way to get the window state [14:31] balloons: were are they ??? on the iso qatracker? [14:33] ? [14:33] there's a tutorial for helping you get started.. one sec [14:33] samgabbay, this is the project: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests [14:33] balloons: ik how to i just wanted to know which ones should i do [14:34] we list bugs for all the testcases that need done [14:34] you are free to nab any of them: v [14:34] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests [14:35] samgabbay, this is a useful info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases [14:36] alright here i go [14:36] samgabbay, make sense? [14:36] excellent, let us know if you need helpf directly.. which one are you thinking of taking? [14:37] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/1172452 the issue is im at school [14:37] Launchpad bug 1172452 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Testcase Needed: Server Upgrade Test" [High,New] [14:37] DanChapman, good question. In the past we asserted the title attribute -- does that not work anymore? [14:39] and im on a vbox [14:40] soo i jope mil be able to do it [14:40] samgabbay, all you need is a text editor [14:40] oh [14:41] im sooo dumb [14:44] balloons in the 1.2 evince test it got the window state by 'windowState = self.app._get_window_states()' but thats gone for 1.3. The title attribute does not change whether the window is maximized or fullscreen mode. I'll probably leave that out of the test for now. [14:44] i dont get it what do i have to do [14:44] on manual tests [14:45] samgabbay there is a video tutorial for it somewhere. balloons is it on your blog or the wiki? [14:45] samgabbay, yes there is [14:45] this youtube channel has all the goodies on it: http://www.youtube.com/qualitybecomesyou [14:46] is there a text tuto [14:46] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO7DdlUSt_4 [14:46] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/Manual [14:46] saintlulu, ^^ [14:46] thx il get ruggt ub ut [14:46] that's everything you need to know [14:46] oops [14:46] rofl [14:47] DanChapman, OHH.. sorry I misunderstood [14:47] :D [14:47] im soo dumb [14:47] DanChapman, there is a way for 1.3.. let me look at the docs quickly to remember.. keep hacking :-) [14:48] balloons, that would be great :D [14:48] svwilliams, so if you work on thunderbird you'll have to do it similar to the firefox test [14:49] that is, introspection doesn't work.. so your reduced to sending keystrokes and simple things. you can't read what's going on directly in the application [14:50] ah ok ... yeah I'm going over the manual tests cases right now and I started with firefox as my template [14:51] you can see the finished firefox autopilot test here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/stable/view/head:/ubuntu_autopilot_tests/firefox/test_firefox.py [14:51] see how it uses the process manager and start_app_window? [14:53] yup! balloons how do I test the setup ... it doesn't show up as a test (obviously) but I want to make sure that works first and in theory it should open thunderbird but ... it doesn't [14:54] are the vbox additons compatible with raring? [14:54] svwilliams, create your first test function and add a simple assert or print even if you wish [14:55] samgabbay, vbox additions? the client stuff? I don't think I install them inside ubuntu usually when I use it. They should work for linux tho [14:55] okay good === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|otp [14:57] so DanChapman , I believe I tried get_wm_state to check window state.. and I'm trying to remember, but I think I found a bug with it [14:58] how do i make vbox virtualization faster [14:58] basically stuff from autopilot.process.Window on this page: http://unity.ubuntu.com/autopilot/api/process.html [14:58] samgabbay in the settings [14:58] ... [14:58] samgabbay, depends if you have things like VT extension or not on your machine, etc [14:58] is it really really slow? what kind of machine do you have? [14:59] balloons, et al. (process:14427): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion `sys_page_size == 0' [14:59] onesec [14:59] test still ran but ... === mmrazik|otp is now known as mmrazik [15:00] http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201202-10548/ [15:00] http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201202-10548/ [15:00] balloons ok thanks mate, will give it a try see if I can get it going [15:01] DanChapman, yea, if it doesn't work, note it in the test and keep going :-) [15:01] samgabbay, does this return anything? grep -e vmx -e svm /proc/cpuinfo [15:01] nope [15:01] wait [15:02] nope [15:02] if it does you have potential VTx flags to turn on [15:02] if not, then :-) [15:03] balloons: how do i get them [15:03] buy a different laptop, lol.. seriously though, there's nothing for you to do if you don't have the flag on your processor [15:03] the other piece is increasing the memory and cpu availible inside vbox settings [15:04] go to settings for your VM and look at the system tab [15:04] up the base memory and processor count [15:05] how much should i increse it to or should i install it on the pc itself [15:06] give it up to half of your machine if you wish [15:06] see if that helps [15:07] scru it il do it on my home laptop [15:10] unlesss i can get ubuntu via wubi on this computer [15:10] home laptop sounds best [15:10] you can also do things from a live cd but it's not the best etheir [15:23] didrocks: ok, done with debugging; I still cannot use otto trunk, the container doesn't start and I get some lxc_container errors about not being able to send/receive commands [15:23] Hello everyone. I'm intime for the hackfest? [15:24] sak, you are indeed my friend [15:25] sak, whatcha thinking of hacking on? [15:26] I am going to continue hacking vino and remmina [15:36] balloons, I have proposed evince now [15:37] DanChapman, excellent I'll have a look [15:37] sak, :-) [15:37] :-) [15:45] DanChapman, ok so it ran fine.. the first time yelp crashed actually [15:46] so wmstate didn't work also right DanChapman ? [15:47] we should have fginther or thomi look at these and help line up some bugs [15:48] yelp crashed? i wasnt able to introspect yelp for some reason but it shows up in vis fine. Yeah get_wm_state didnt work either. Was throwing root has no attrib get_wm_state [15:49] balloons, are these autopilot* bugs? [15:50] fginther, indeed.. autopilot gtk issues.. Potentially bugs [15:50] if you have a moment to chat about them, we can do so now :-) [15:50] balloons, please give me a few minutes to wrap another task up [15:52] DanChapman, merged and pushed to prod [15:53] svwilliams, how goes it? [15:53] balloons, awesome. Be a good all round test once we can get fullscreen sorted :) [15:54] yes, I trust we'll get some help on that in just a minute :-) [15:54] balloons, it goes ok I've got a basic test that opens thunderbird and then closes it. Unfortunately it's contingent on this being your first time using Thunderbird ... so I need to add more robustness, check to see if the new user dialogue is open etc [15:54] svwilliams, ahh.. the new user dialogs, heh [15:54] I'm committing it now and pushing it to my launchpad profile so I can share and ask advice ... need to fix a conflict in helloworld (which I believe is gone now) [15:55] so balloons how do implement umockdev, is there anything i can look at on how to use it? [15:55] didrocks: are you interested in fixing the oneconf autopkgtest? [15:55] DanChapman, we have pitti with us still if you hit something.. but otherwise look at the shotwell test. It uses it, and is a good example of needing it :-) [15:56] balloons: oh, it does? umockdev is only in a PPA for now; I've been meaning to upload it to ubuntu this week (currently working on an autopkgtest) [15:56] pitti, yes it's the one Carla worked on last cycle [15:57] yes, I remember discussing that with her; nice! [15:57] balloons: that's in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/trunk/ ? [15:58] balloons, shotwell i will start then :D [15:58] ah, no [15:58] pitti, hmm.. indeed [15:58] I wonder where she put it.. it's not under the project [15:59] I remember looking at it and using it. We'll have to ask her today when she's around [16:00] i'll stick that one on hold for now then. Is that them all ported now then apart from shotwell? [16:00] pitti, I'm working on some content for an autopilot-gtk tutorial and looking for some good test examples. If you happen to know if some, could you please send me a link? [16:00] DanChapman, let's see here [16:00] fginther: I know that http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/trunk/files/head:/ubuntu_autopilot_tests/ exists, but I haven't looked at them closely yet [16:00] ahhh screenshot still to do aswell [16:01] balloons when you use "bzr commit", are you tracking lines of text you added to a test file or adding a new line to a test file? [16:01] sak, when you bzr commit your committing all of your changes to the repository locally [16:01] pitti, thanks [16:01] take a look at bzr diff and bzr status [16:01] after your do a bzr checkout, anything you change is recorded.. that's what is committed. Your current state [16:02] DanChapman, yes Carla has a branch for screenshot [16:02] and totem needs done, but I have a branch for that, heh [16:02] balloons, I'm ready if you want to discuss the autopilot issue [16:02] so.. you want to tackle something fun now then? [16:02] balloons, yeah i just seen carla's branch [16:03] Oh go on then ...... [16:03] DanChapman, try tackling this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/+bug/1116774 [16:03] Launchpad bug 1116774 in Ubuntu Autopilot Tests "Test Needed: Ubiquity (Automated Image Installs)" [Undecided,New] [16:03] it's on the agenda for today :-) [16:03] or you can have at totem.. I've not done much to it [16:03] fginther, excellent. Ok, so we'll start with the one we just ran into. this is more a question I think [16:04] I'll have a run at ubiquity and see how i go :D [16:04] pitti: I didn't do it, not even sure what's in, I think barry plugged it :) [16:04] fginther, I'm going to just talk about stuff in the stable branch [16:04] didrocks: ah, thanks [16:05] So this test we just added: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/stable/files/head:/ubuntu_autopilot_tests/evince/. How can we determine when the application goes fullscreen? [16:05] I believe get_wm_state doesn't work ;-( [16:06] balloons, hmm === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [16:10] I'm looking at the non-introspection testcase for firefox.. it seems we can check like this: self.assertThat(lambda: self.app._get_window_states(), Eventually(Contains("_NET_WM_STATE_FULLSCREEN"))) [16:11] balloons, thats how the evince 1.2 test did it aswell [16:12] balloons, but in that case, self.app was a unity handle, [16:12] right.. I stole it from there I believe :-) [16:12] :-D [16:12] fginther, self.app = self.manager.start_app_window("Firefox") [16:12] self.manager = ProcessManager.create('BAMF') [16:12] it's using processmanager and bamf [16:12] balloons, yep, so basically the firefox test is asking unity for the window state [16:13] indeed.. we need an agnostic way to do it [16:13] at least some way to do it :-) [16:13] lol [16:14] being able to get and set attributes like that would be good.. it's a point that's unclear [16:15] the other issue is our inability to introspect child windows for most applications. you can see this in the evince test [16:16] so dialog windows are a real pita [16:16] balloons, ok, I'll ruminate on these two things. I'm looking at the code and nothing jumps out at me [16:16] fginther, thank you.. just think about it.. A sane way of dealing with both of those would really help the gtk side of things [16:16] balloons, can you file some bugs if you haven't already? [16:17] fginther, I was looking and didn't see them. I think we had wanted to chat about it first [16:17] they sure would help :-) [16:17] should I keep them generic? Or reference a specific test that is failing? [16:18] balloons, please include a reference to the evince tests since you have the example [16:18] fginther, ok if that works I'll use that. It's not a bad example since it shows off both issues [16:18] balloons, If all else fails, I have a regular chat with thomi today and I'll bring this up [16:19] ty fginther === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk [16:26] balloons, didn't we identify a maintainer for autopilot-gtk during the last UDS? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-s-testing-technologies [16:26] fginther, that would be pitti ;-) [16:26] He's probably wanting to hide atm ;-) [16:27] ha [16:27] not hide, I just didn't start on ap-gtk yet [16:27] had my hands full with distro stuff in the past few weeks, sorry [16:28] balloons, right. just want to set some expectations that autopilot-gtk is not our focus [16:28] pitti, we understand :-) [16:29] fginther, indeed.. I just wanted to pick your brain before saying, yep, these are shortcomings or bugs, not something we didn't understand [16:30] balloons, no problem [16:38] Ok balloons, I figured it out. Thanks. [16:38] so we'll just assign the bugs to pitti :-) [16:38] sak, all set then? [16:42] Baloons, yup [16:47] well I can't hack at ubiquity today, vbox not playing nice keeps jamming up. and can't find my usb stick. balloons did you say totem needs finishing? [16:47] DanChapman_, yes totem can be had [16:48] so I started on it and found i couldn't find the properties I wanted to introspect on === DanChapman_ is now known as DanChapman [16:48] DanChapman, i would simplify the testcase alot [16:48] the main loop does a ton of random stuff [16:49] ok cool will trim it down :D [16:49] small and basic :-) [16:56] so I am now testing vino and remmina on saucy using virtualbox [16:56] stgraber: drat, okay [16:56] the version of ubuntu being used is xubuntu 13.10 [16:56] stgraber: any ideas who might be able to help me a bit out there? [16:57] stgraber: and apparently UTAH is being replaced with something called otto? === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [17:16] balloons, et all is there some where I can find all the actions one can call from things like self.app.* in autopilot? [17:19] WOW never mind ... again I need to look just a little bit harder .. found it when I backed out of the tutorial ... still haven't found app but found keyboard [17:21] svwilliams, yes there is a complete reference [17:21] http://unity.ubuntu.com/autopilot/api/ [17:27] balloons for totem, will play and pause video suffice for now, i'll leave fullscreen out with a note for future reference. looking at the manual test doing tests on plugins etc looks like it would become a bit hacky [17:28] DanChapman, yes I agree.. play and pause video should suffice.. fullscreen has the same issue as before [17:28] the plugins have changed in the past.. I don't believe anything is on by default now, so it's less important [17:28] balloons, ok cool :-) [17:32] balloons, ok I'm understanding autopilot more [17:32] interesting issue with using start_app_window with thunderbird [17:32] because it opens a second dialogue window for new users autopilot can't clean it up [17:33] Ok, guys, have to go. Will will back for the next hackfest. [17:33] bye sak :-) === Daviey_ is now known as Daviey [18:04] svwilliams, what do you mean it can"t clean up> === sergiuse1s is now known as sergiusens === TheDrums is now known as Guest48798 [18:40] balloons, totem proposed [18:42] DanChapman, :-) [18:42] brb i seem to be logged into irc twice [18:44] DanChapman, no sleeps! [18:47] DanChapman, looks nice and clean.. the introspection for pause failed? [18:47] :-( === Daviey_ is now known as Daviey === dpniel is now known as DanChapman [18:54] Hey Letozaf_ [18:54] DanChapman, Hey [18:57] DanChapman, there is own sticky point though I remember from when I was messing with it. The sidebar is used by the "information" sidebar also [18:58] balloons how does that affect the test? [18:58] perhaps specifically request the playlist via view->playlist? assuming it's on playlist isn't bad persay as it will be, but [18:58] DanChapman, open your totem and press ctrl+p. close it and run the test [18:58] oh i see ok then ill take a look [18:59] it will fail :-) I blame the poor design, heh [18:59] if we can take care of it, probably should I suppose [18:59] Letozaf_, hello! [18:59] did you see my update on the bug for ubiquity? [18:59] balloons, Hi :D [19:00] balloons, no, I just jumped on it without checking :p so maybe I should check :) [19:00] Letozaf_, yes please do.. [19:00] also, we were curious about your old shotwell test using umockdev [19:00] and also, how's the screenshot test? [19:00] everything else has been ported.. kudos to DanChapman for many of them [19:01] balloons, yeah DanChapman is great, he has done a very good job [19:02] WOW! so the only way to get it back to playlist after pressing Ctrl+p is view>playlist. Thats not so good design [19:02] balloons, for screenshot I have nearly finished it, have a couple of problems, if you guys want I can paste it to paste bin or what ever [19:03] Letozaf_ sure can take a look :-) [19:03] balloons, instead for shotwell I had just began and I was having problems focusing shotwell window [19:03] DanChapman, ok, just a second [19:04] Ahh Letozaf do you mean when you launch gnome-screenshot you get an instant screenshot of the whole screen? === josepht_ is now known as josepht === mmrazik|afk is now known as mmraazik === mmraazik is now known as mmrazik [19:05] Letozaf_, I do remember the issue we had with shotwell now. We filed a bug upstream for it [19:05] no way to control things via keyboard or introspection [19:05] DanChapman, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5733581 [19:06] DanChapman, no my problem is veryfing that the screenshot image is ok and bigger than 0 [19:06] DanChapman, and cancelling the file after, but seems like the screenshot is not saved under the Pictures directory [19:07] DanChapman, maybe if you run the test you can see better what I mean [19:07] Yep just pasting it into a test [19:07] balloons, yes, for shotwell we had a bug [19:07] balloons, I almost forgot it :p [19:10] DanChapman, so yea it seems just hitting view->playlist (no shortcut!) before doing anything should ensure no issues [19:10] ok will add that in mate === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [19:14] so I'll dig up the shotwell bug while you finish screenshot === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [19:14] https://bugs.launchpad.net/shotwell/+bug/1155794 [19:15] Launchpad bug 1155794 in Shotwell "Shotwell needs keyboard shortcut for selecting camera" [Undecided,New] [19:15] balloons, cannot find yesterday's bug no. can you give me the no. ? [19:15] this is the upstream.. seems like it was targeted for 0.16 but they dropped it [19:15] http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/6614 [19:16] Letozaf_, yesterday's bug on ? [19:16] balloons, on ubiquity [19:16] ohh right [19:16] lol [19:16] balloons, I mean the ubiquity test I left for today [19:17] Letozaf_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/+bug/1116774 [19:17] Launchpad bug 1116774 in Ubuntu Autopilot Tests "Test Needed: Ubiquity (Automated Image Installs)" [Undecided,New] [19:17]