[00:00] <redtape|renegade> mmm .. no luck there, then .. Looks like I'm buying a whole new PC ...
[00:38] <redtape|renegade> .. me thinks I'll just get a raspi  .. good 'nuff.
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[05:10] <MartijnVdS> ...
[05:20] <ging> thats a lot of.. never mind
[05:24] <MartijnVdS> ging: a lot of "gingers"
[05:25] <ging> only a ginger can call a ginger a ginger
[05:25] <MartijnVdS> ging: \o/ Tim Minchin
[06:27] <knightwise> mornin
[06:42] <MooDoo> hello all
[06:43] <sjhh> morning
[06:44] <hd5770> hey sjhh
[06:44] <hd5770> man i cant get unbutu to boot from usb
[06:44] <hd5770> its a real pain
[06:57] <knightwise> hd5770: did you format the drive to fat32 before you started ?
[07:11] <hd5770> no
[07:11] <hd5770> but its fat32 and app i got made the usb stick and done all the formating as im in winbows still
[07:12] <hd5770> error no config file found
[07:12] <hd5770> no default or UI config found
[07:13] <hd5770> Boot>
[07:13] <hd5770> is all i ever get
[07:28] <MartijnVdS> that means grub can't find its second stage
[07:33] <hd5770> why
[07:33] <MartijnVdS> could be lots of things
[07:33] <MartijnVdS> probably because your BIOS shuffles things around in a way that Grub doesn't understand
[07:37] <hd5770> pain
[07:37] <MartijnVdS> hd5770: do you want to *install* Ubuntu on the USB disk, or run the installer off the USB disk?
[07:37] <MartijnVdS> disk/stick/whatever
[07:38] <hd5770> run imstaller offer it
[07:39] <MartijnVdS> How did you create the USB bootable stick?
[07:39] <christel> gooood morning prettycakes <3
[07:39] <MartijnVdS> (and which OS do you use now?)
[07:39] <MartijnVdS> christel: howdy!
[07:40] <christel> \o
[07:40] <hd5770> ive used meny thingys all with same out come im on winbows
[07:40] <MartijnVdS> hd5770: have you followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#From_Windows ?
[07:41] <MartijnVdS> hd5770: "Linux Live Usb Creator" and/or UNetbootin?
[07:42] <hd5770> yep yep
[08:00] <diplo> Morning all
[08:04] <hd5770> guess ill go shop and get a cd
[08:11] <mungbean> did anyone else get a letter fro mthe taxman giving them money?
[08:11] <mungbean> thought it was a bit proactive of them
[08:12] <diplo> No!
[08:12] <diplo> Wheres mine!
[08:14] <mungbean> it was only £300
[08:14] <mungbean> \o/ \o/ \o/
[08:14] <diplo> *only*¬
[08:14] <mungbean> should pay for the wifes dentist trip on friday
[08:19] <diplo> I will keep my eye out for one :)
[08:20] <mungbean> didn't actually get the cheque yet
[08:20] <mungbean> it will problably turn out i owe them money :(
[08:21] <diplo> heh, knowing the tax office probably...
[08:24] <DJones> mungbean: I'm hoping for one of those letters
[08:26] <DJones> Hoping for a tax refund they owe me, I was employed until the end of august and paid tax under paye, then went self employed, so in theory, I should get a tax refund for September-March when my income wasn't under paye
[08:30] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[08:32] <diplo> Morning brobostigon
[08:32] <brobostigon> morning diplo
[08:36] <mungbean> DJones: usually i'd expect to file a return first though
[08:37] <DJones> mungbean: Seems to depend on whether you're employed or self employed, if you're employed and only have salary coming in, if there's an overpayment, quite often they just send that out automatically
[08:38] <DJones> My wife got one last year even though she doesn't file any returns
[08:39] <DJones> It was only £19 and they made the cheque out in her unmarried name, we didn't bother trying to get them to change it, we'd have probably spent more on phone calls than the cheque was worth
[08:39] <mungbean> using this monitor inportait mode seems to be very blurry
[08:39] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: could be wrong sub-pixel antialiasing
[08:39] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: (expecting it to go horizontally instead of vertically)
[08:39] <mungbean> fixable?
[08:40] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: should be easy, yes
[08:40] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/subpixel.php
[08:40] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: you can use that page to see if that's actually your problem
[08:44] <mungbean> allegeldy this monitor is 1920x1080
[08:44] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: that's not a problem.. but it might make it harder to see the subpixels :)
[08:44] <mungbean> but only showing 1440x900
[08:44] <MartijnVdS> that would make it fuzzy, yes
[08:44] <mungbean> double checks
[08:45] <mungbean> ah they do different versions of the same model number.
[08:45] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: "xrandr" will tell you the current resolution & orientation
[08:45] <mungbean> good idea
[08:45] <mungbean> gonna find a different monitor mething
[08:46] <MartijnVdS> monitor mething
[08:46] <MartijnVdS> not even once
[08:46] <MartijnVdS> ;)
[08:58] <JamesTait> Good morning all, happy Hug Your Cat Day! :-D
[08:59] <Laney> I keep threatening to get a cat
[08:59] <Laney> but alas it's not allowed by my rental contract :(
[08:59] <MartijnVdS> Laney: threatening whom? cats everywhere? ;)
[08:59] <diplo> Can have 1 of the thousand that seem to be on my estate!
[08:59] <diplo> :)
[09:00] <Laney> I'd never threaten a cat ♥
[09:00] <Laney> we always had them when I lived with the parents
[09:00]  * Laney pines
[09:00]  * czajkowski gives Laney a saucer of milk 
[09:00] <czajkowski> hush
[09:01] <Laney> meowwwww
[09:01] <diplo> I've not had another one since mine got cancer, live on my own now with kids and I just don't want that responsibility of sorting people when I go away etc
[09:01] <diplo> Think a few years and I'll get another pet
[09:02] <Laney> https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/533584_10151224878152413_610833438_n.jpg
[09:02] <Laney> there he is
[09:03]  * JamesTait has six.
[09:04] <JamesTait> I am crazy cat man.
[09:04] <mungbean> my sis has 9
[09:04] <mungbean> never seen them all at once though
[09:04] <JamesTait> Does she want any more? :-P
[09:04] <mungbean> no but it doesn't stop her
[09:04] <mungbean> i.e no but yeah
[09:04] <JamesTait> I could spare 5 or so! :-D
[09:05] <mungbean> i think it is replacement for husband issues
[09:05] <dwatkins> My friend has about 20 pet rats.
[09:06] <directhex> our cat fell out of a first floor window last night
[09:06] <directhex> idiot cat
[09:06] <Myrtti> my sister's cat is humping his plush penguin.
[09:06] <mungbean> i bet the dog pushed it
[09:07]  * Myrtti shakes her head
[09:07] <brobostigon> lol
[09:09] <mungbean> was writing a gedit doc and i found that i had started a paragraph with "i"
[09:09] <mungbean> as if i'm writing in Vim
[09:11] <diplo> I do that a lot :D
[09:11] <mungbean> probably not many facebook users in here, but when i put my phone on airplane mode overnight, then in the morning, switch out of airplane mode, and run facebook, the entries are from 28 may
[09:11] <mungbean> and refershing doesn't fix it
[09:11] <mungbean> not delete data, reboot phone, remove cache
[09:11] <mungbean> app is up to date
[09:12] <diplo> I have odd issues like that occasionally, normally clearing data fixes it for me
[09:12] <mungbean> usually it does i tihnk
[09:13] <diplo> But sometimes it just seems to fix itself, haven't found the cause yet.. not that fussed really either :)
[09:13] <mungbean> never experienced it until i started airplane moding instead of power off at night
[09:13] <JamesTait> christel, your young man is too cute. ;)
[09:18] <diplo> Why do you use Airplane mode mungbean, to save battery ?
[09:18] <mungbean> diplo: yes, and its night time, don't want messages, but want waking up for the next baby feed
[09:19] <diplo> Those were the days :)
[09:19] <mungbean> so alarm, and nothing else
[09:19] <mungbean> no they are not the days :P
[09:19] <mungbean> the days are when baby is toddling
[09:19] <mungbean> :D
[09:20] <diplo> You'll say the opposite once they there :)
[09:20] <mungbean> nah
[09:20] <diplo> Oh you will :)
[09:21] <mungbean> i find it hard to relate to sweet little smiling baby
[09:21] <diplo> They get EVERYWHERE!!!!
[09:21] <mungbean> my boy is 3 1/2
[09:21] <diplo> Ah, thought you only had the one
[09:21] <mungbean> so much energy!
[09:21] <diplo> Mine are 5 and 6 now, I really miss baby days now, not the toddling part
[09:22] <mungbean> but...at 5 and 6 you can take them to museums and make lego/airfix with them :D
[09:23] <mungbean> not surprised about the toddling if you had a 2 and 3 yr old runinng around together
[09:23] <MooDoo> my son is 5 in sept and daughter is 2 in sept
[09:23] <MooDoo> glad it's only one party but their 18th and 21st is going to be a knightmare lol
[09:23] <mungbean> and girls grow up faster usually
[09:23] <mungbean> hence boy 16 and girl 13 will be hard
[09:23] <diplo> heh MooDoo, and mungbean I can take the older one, the younger one gets bored with everything very quickly
[09:24] <mungbean> i will have similar issue
[09:24] <MooDoo> luckily we have only 2 birthdays in our house lol
[09:25] <diplo> Blimey how old are we talking about kids :D
[09:25] <MooDoo> well i don't know about you but i'm 21 again :D
[09:26] <diplo> That would ne nice :)
[09:31] <mungbean> having kids is a great excuse to do things kids do
[09:31] <mungbean> people worry too much about what they shouldn't be seen doing
[09:32] <diplo> Oh I don't, I join the kids scooting down at the skateboard park, playing in the parks with them etc
[09:32] <diplo> :P
[09:33] <diplo> Anyone in here use imdbpy ?
[09:35] <christel> JamesTait: aw thanks! <3
[09:37] <diplo> Also, anyone use Amazon EC2 ?
[09:37] <MartijnVdS> diplo: I use Glacier, and tried a bit of S3, does that count?
[09:38] <mungbean> i use glacier too
[09:38] <mungbean> paid 11p this month
[09:39] <diplo> I just want to know if there is a console like on most VPS services I've used, it's looking like not ?
[09:39] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: I paid $2.30, yay lots of raw photos :)
[09:39] <directhex> ec2 isn't really a VPS service
[09:40] <directhex> if you use it as one, you're doing it wrong
[09:40] <MooDoo> MartijnVdS: how many bearing in mind I have 500gb of photos ?
[09:42] <MartijnVdS> use bigv for that ;)
[09:42] <diplo> directhex: It's a friend who runs it on it
[09:42] <directhex> well, i await hearing how they lost all their data
[09:42] <diplo> Using the free server for a year setup I believe
[09:43] <MartijnVdS> MooDoo: 250GBish
[09:43] <diplo> Ah right, I know nothing.. I was actually saying why don't you use a proper VPS host, and he says cost
[09:43] <diplo> Whats the reasoning behind that comment directhex as I  know nothing about amazon services
[09:44] <directhex> diplo, the storage on your ec2 instance is ephemeral. if you spin down the vm to e.g. assign more ram, then all data is gone. you're meant to use s3 for data that matters, and have designed your webapp to basically reinstall from scratch when you create the vm.
[09:45] <directhex> ec2 isn't a vps host, it's an API for making VMs appear. your app needs to be designed for that API (spinning up & deleting VMs as demand requires, never needing persistent storage outside EBS), or you're missing the point
[09:47] <diplo> Cool thanks for that, just typed it verbatim to him, quoting you :)
[09:47] <diplo> Really must spend some time looking at it thought at some point
[09:49] <diplo> Ah right he uses EBS for storing the site/images etc, but looking to use S3 soon
[09:51] <directhex> basically, with ec2, ask yourself "if / partition was deleted, would i care?" - if the answer is yes, you should be on ec2
[09:51] <directhex> shouldn't
[09:51] <diplo> kk, ta for that, at least I understand it even if he won't listen :)
[09:52] <mungbean> MooDoo: flickr?
[09:52] <mungbean> 1tb of photos
[09:54] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: doesn't store raw photos, only jpeg/other processed formats
[09:55] <MooDoo> mungbean: yeah don't like flickr, can't easily password protect photos/folders, i do use g+ but there isn't really apart from picassa an easy way to sync.
[09:56] <mungbean> can you make the flickr photos unpublic quite easily?
[09:56] <MartijnVdS> you can, but you can't easily share it with a small number of people
[09:56] <mungbean> with 1tb of photos i hope they have awesome photo mgmt
[09:56] <MartijnVdS> you have 5 options: Only yourself, you+friends, you+family, you+f+f, everyone
[09:57] <MartijnVdS> on g+/picasa you get to choose (by email address) who can see the photos
[10:02] <sjhh> what do software do you use to manage that on the server?
[10:49] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:49] <davmor2> popey: hows life on the fairly narrow stillness
[10:51] <popey> davmor2: very nice ☻
[10:52] <popey> we have a wifi network and a local irc server on the boat :D
[10:52] <MartijnVdS> 8-)
[10:52] <davmor2> popey: nice.
[10:52] <MartijnVdS> popey: so you don't have to talk face to face? ;)
[10:53] <davmor2> MartijnVdS: on something 5 feet wide :)
[10:53] <popey> not from the from to the back of the boat
[10:53] <MartijnVdS> davmor2: exactly :)
[10:53] <popey> its 70 ft long
[10:54] <popey> right, back to the water.. ttfn
[10:54] <MartijnVdS> popey: \o
[10:56] <brobostigon> three seems to have fixed there 12 hour data outage.
[10:56] <mungbean> irc server on boat lol
[10:56] <mungbean> raspberry pi?
[11:15] <davmor2> popey: on Ubuntu touch if you open the twitter app can you scroll down and see all your tweets for me on the galaxy nexus it is like a static page
[12:00] <dwatkins> I can't imagine how I could have ever thought that 4.5 GB was enough for a server's root disk.
[12:05] <diplo> heh, done that a few times.. lvm ?
[12:12] <dwatkins> diplo: sadly no, it's the hard-wired SSD inside my ASUS Eee 901; I'm just moving 3 GB of unused data out of /var/www ;)
[12:12] <dwatkins> (yes, I know, I should have made a separate partition for the website... ;) )
[12:12] <dwatkins> Disk Usage Analyser is pretty.
[12:12] <diplo> heh, quite helpful to when I remember to use it
[12:34] <dwatkins> That's better, I have 4 GB free now.
[12:34] <diplo> heh
[12:56] <MartijnVdS> How stable is saucy?
[12:57] <mgdm> if you leave it alone it mostly stays level, but if you move it around it'll go everywhere
[12:59] <MartijnVdS> mgdm: ...
[12:59]  * MartijnVdS thinks of upgrading, because better haswell supports
[13:10] <directhex> mgdm, you can move sauce around fine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDlHGhKHIdM
[13:11] <mgdm> heh
[13:14] <mungbean> seems like every tabloid news site it's essential to have a sidebar of shame, pioneered by the dailymail
[13:14] <mgdm> It's referred to by our team as a 'cracknav'
[13:15] <mungbean> i accidentally clicked a sun.co.uk link
[13:15] <mungbean> more like the boob bar
[13:15] <dwatkins> for a moment I wondered what bars had to do with Sun Microsystems and why you weren't redirected to Oracle's website, mungbean...
[13:15] <directhex> if there are boobs, you know it's not the daily mail
[13:16] <directhex> the daily mail's bar only has semi-naked kids in it
[13:16] <mungbean> dailymail has bobos  but it lingerie, bikinis
[13:16] <mungbean> yeah
[13:16] <mungbean> i seem to be missing keys/words today
[13:17] <mgdm> 'bobos' is the best typo I've seen for a while
[13:17] <mungbean> don't the french calls them lolos ?
[13:19] <mungbean> waiting for docs.oracle.com :(
[13:19] <mungbean> oracle and IBM can't seem to make wbsites that work
[13:20] <directhex> mungbean, nor cisco
[13:21] <mgdm> anyone remember the day Cisco's site had a bug that removed any occurrence of the character 'e'?
[13:21] <mgdm> (well, I think it was 'e')
[13:21] <mgdm> even the HTML tags were rewritten to <had>Stuff gos hr</had>
[13:23] <mungbean> impressive
[13:23] <diplo> lol, never heard of that :)
[13:24] <diplo> mungbean: SAP ones are the same, sucky sucky
[13:24] <mgdm> Oh, it was 't'. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/25/cisco_website_snafu/
[13:26] <mungbean> somebody wants to deploy 7 web servers in prod for the lame helpdesk app
[13:27] <mgdm> wow. how many clients?
[13:27] <diddledan> 3
[13:28] <diddledan> :-p
[13:28] <mungbean> maybe 20000 students and 5000 staff
[13:28] <diddledan> so 3 concurrent, then
[13:28] <mungbean> but seriously how many of them actually login to the web site
[13:28] <mungbean> the DB servers will be melted first anyway
[13:29]  * mgdm looks
[13:29] <diplo> 7, blimey.. what is it ASP ?
[13:29] <mgdm> we have less than that for far more hits than that will get - though a lot of ours is cacheable, so we have Varnish in front
[13:30] <mungbean> its just the application team and numpties
[13:30] <mungbean> and/are
[13:30] <diddledan> make sure it comes out of their budget and not yours :-p
[13:34] <brobostigon> lets hope they dont read this, as it publicly logged being called called numpties.
[13:35] <mungbean> :D
[13:37] <mungbean> i'm connecting from a shared server
[13:37] <mungbean> could be one of 250 people
[13:37] <mungbean> besides, more people need to be called out when they are being numpties
[13:38] <diplo> +1
[13:38] <diplo> :)
[13:38] <MartijnVdS> \o/
[13:39] <diddledan> I'm too often numptieish
[13:40] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: Once you know you are one, you are no longer one.
[13:41] <brobostigon> yes, similer in concept to those that are stupid, dont realise they are, but if you can recognise such, you no longer are.
[13:42] <diddledan> still, at least I haven't lost the game yet
[13:42] <diddledan> :-p
[13:42] <diddledan> MUAHAHAHA
[13:42] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: the only winning move is not to play
[13:43] <diddledan> indeed, but as I'd already lost, I figured ya'll needed to lose.. again
[13:43] <brobostigon> that happens with age, when we slowly become senile.
[13:45] <mungbean> my neighbour was telling me he'd gone for a test to see if he was getting alzheimers
[13:45] <mungbean> surely if you've got it , you don't know
[13:45] <mungbean> unless you just have it a little bit
[13:46] <brobostigon> good point, yes.
[14:18] <dwatkins> perhaps someone told him he'd forgotten something?
[14:20] <diddledan> I don't remember forgetting anything, ever
[14:21] <mungbean> he said he'd started forgetting names
[14:21] <mungbean> he's also building a terrible fence
[14:21] <mungbean> but i don't think its related
[14:21] <mungbean> he's knocked up a rickety ramshackle fence that will fall over on any gust of wind
[14:22] <mungbean> and is now adding various trestles that he's found on skips
[14:22] <mungbean> trellice
[14:23] <BigRedS> trellis :)
[14:23] <mungbean> where's dictionarybot when you need him
[14:23] <MartijnVdS> tralies!
[14:23] <mungbean> do i need a scan too?
[14:24] <BigRedS> Do people still make PCMCIA thingies? I want a 3G dongle, but it might as well not be sticking out of a USB socket when there's this otherwise useless void in my network
[14:24] <dwatkins> you can get handheld 3G devices (not just a phone, but a MyWi)
[14:25] <BigRedS> yeah, that sounds like the sort of thing I'd leave on a train or at home
[14:25] <BigRedS> I'm pretty bad at, well, things really
[14:25] <dwatkins> also, there are slots in some laptops for dedicated cards
[14:26] <dwatkins> some ASUS laptops use them
[14:26] <MartijnVdS> BigRedS: for 3G, get a wifi one
[14:26] <MartijnVdS> BigRedS: (mifi or similar)
[14:26] <MartijnVdS> it's not worth the driver hassle
[14:26] <dwatkins> I don't think there are PCMCIA 3G adapters which don't stick out of the slot, though.
[14:27] <dwatkins> so a Google image search for PCMCIA 3G tells me ;)
[14:27] <MartijnVdS> my laptop has a built-in mini PCI-Express 3G card
[14:27] <dwatkins> yeah, that's the badger
[14:27] <MartijnVdS> but it has bad reception compared to the mifi.. and bad speed (onloy 7.2Mbit, mifi gets 28 :))
[14:27] <dwatkins> I se my phone when I need internets on the go, but I have unlimited usage with Three.
[14:28] <MartijnVdS> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Huawei-E5331-Speed-21-1Mbps-Unlocked/dp/B00ARFVTKS
[14:29] <BigRedS> yeah, I've had a bit of a google and not come up with anything
[14:29] <BigRedS> I'd be pulling the SIM outof the phone each time so can't be inside the laptop
[14:29] <MartijnVdS> BigRedS: https://techship.se/products/huawei-em770w/
[14:30] <BigRedS> think I'll stick with usb/bt/wifi tethering
[14:30] <MartijnVdS> BigRedS: can't you set your phone to become an AP?
[14:30] <MartijnVdS> BigRedS: Android can do that
[14:30] <MartijnVdS> (tethering)
[14:30] <BigRedS> yeah, but then I spend the rest of the day with a flat battery if I've forgotten my USB cable
[14:30] <BigRedS> which is the general case
[14:30] <BigRedS> I *think* bluetooth uses less power, but drops out more frequently
[14:31] <MartijnVdS> it's the 3G data that's the battery eater
[14:31] <BigRedS> yeah
[14:31] <mgdm> My phone lasts longer with wifi enabled for that reason
[14:31] <MartijnVdS> BigRedS: but the E5331 seems to be what you want
[14:31] <MartijnVdS> BigRedS: it's the size of a business card
[14:32] <BigRedS> ooh, and it's not that expensive
[14:32] <BigRedS> but I could get a load of USB cables for that money, too :)
[14:32] <MartijnVdS> I hav this one, in white: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Huawei-E586-21-6-Mbps-Mobile/dp/B005LDRP18
[14:33] <MartijnVdS> drove across England with it (and a Vodafone SIM), it worked great
[14:33] <BigRedS> are they ever carrier-locked?
[14:33] <MartijnVdS> BigRedS: some are, especially if they have a logo on them other than "Huawei"
[14:33] <BigRedS> ah right, so that's a thing to keep an eye out for
[14:33] <MartijnVdS> BigRedS: just search for "unlocked" :)
[14:33] <BigRedS> yeah
[14:34] <BigRedS> just wondered if it was a thing to bear in mind
[14:34] <BigRedS> and it is :)
[14:34] <MartijnVdS> Vodafone reception is not good near Land's End btw.. I guess it's the rocks and lack of population density :)
[14:34] <mungbean> moved my nationwide ISA to another nationwide ISA. get a lwetter to say "here's to notify you of closure of your ISA"
[14:34] <mungbean> ....and where's the ".....and your money is in the new ISA now!"
[14:34] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: stolen by the mailman
[14:36] <diddledan> they eated your monies
[14:38] <mungbean> now i realised i have a halifax fixed rate one
[14:38] <mungbean> at 4.x %
[14:38] <mungbean> i could transfer into that instead
[14:38] <mungbean> i hate ISAs
[15:58] <czajkowski> christel: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22751415
[16:00] <christel> haha yeah i saw that!
[16:06] <czajkowski> it's rather cool
[16:18] <christel> i like the orange clothing!
[16:18] <christel> <3 bright colours
[16:58] <spazm> NIGGERS
[16:58] <spazm> HI ALL
[16:58] <mgdm> !ops
[16:59] <spazm> NIGGERS
[16:59] <spazm> FUCK
[16:59] <diddledan> I don't get this slur against nigerians?
[16:59] <mgdm> ta DJones - wasn't sure if you had a highlight in ! ops
[16:59] <DJones> Yes I have
[17:00] <diddledan> \o/
[17:24] <diddledan> lol @ spam - aparently I can have a complimentary account at "iceland bingo" who are supposedly registered in gibraltar with a florida mailing address for "option out"
[17:25] <diddledan> they're gonna give me £5 to spend in _any_ iceland, however!
[17:25] <diddledan> they make the point that this is nationwide iceland stores!
[17:26] <diddledan> all I have to do to earn this £5 free is to spend £10 on their bingo
[17:26]  * diddledan counts on his fingers
[17:29] <diddledan> ooh, they also offer degrees? the email came from newsletter@easyonlinedegreeresourcenetwork.com
[17:29] <diddledan> now that's a mouthfull
[18:01] <diddledan> what happened to triple-channel rams?
[18:02] <diddledan> seems none of the haswell mobos feature such a beast?
[18:04] <MartijnVdS> DDR3?
[18:04] <MartijnVdS> The CPU doesn't support it? Or the chipsets don't?
[18:04]  * MartijnVdS has http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4514
[18:05] <MartijnVdS> GA-Z87X-OC.. good thing I put the cover on my case, or I'd go blind from the orange bits
[18:05] <diddledan> no, not ddr3, but running three ddr3 modules independantly
[18:05] <diddledan> seems dual-channel is the order of the day these days
[18:06] <Myrtti> swimming in the lake ♥
[18:06] <diddledan> Myrtti: doesn't your tech get soggy?
[18:06] <Myrtti> I left it in the bag
[18:07] <Myrtti> on the beach
[18:07] <diddledan> aah
[18:07] <MartijnVdS> yeah
[18:07] <MartijnVdS> I have 2x 8GB 2133MHz DDR3
[18:08] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: Not the lake near my house.. it's next to a golf course that was used to be an illegal toxic waste dump
[18:08] <diddledan> MartijnVdS: that'll be running in dual-channel mode, then, I would suspect
[18:09] <diddledan> and on the topic of toxic waste, we see that RadiumCat just joined
[18:09] <diddledan> wtf is wrong with the network right now?!
[18:09] <pr0ph3t> hi all
[18:10] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: yes
[18:10] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: toxic waste, not nuclear waste
[18:10] <diddledan> ello pr0ph3t
[18:11] <diddledan> MartijnVdS: semantics
[18:11] <diddledan> :-p
[18:11] <pr0ph3t> IMHO the default lock screen window in ubuntu is fugly, I much prefer the gnome-shell default, but my point is: is there a way to change it and personalise it? Like themes or other?
[18:12] <pr0ph3t> I love personalising my ubuntu box and with unity, cursor themes and lock screen are a nightmare for me
[18:14] <pr0ph3t> changing cursor themes is also a nightmare, you always end up with a cursor theme on some parts of the screen and the default on others
[18:14] <pr0ph3t> that is the stuff of nightmares
[18:16] <MartijnVdS> pr0ph3t: some apps just use their own cursors..
[18:16] <MartijnVdS> pr0ph3t: also, how often do you see the lock screen anyway?
[18:20] <pr0ph3t> MartijnVdS I wish it was a matter of use or ease, but unortunately its just a hint of ocd on my side
[18:21] <pr0ph3t> cursor theme wise its not the apps, it just that it does not do it for me, even if I change it to one of the standard themes such as redglass, I still get it only in some parts of windows and not on others
[18:28] <MartijnV1S> what happened there
[18:28] <MartijnV1S> pr0ph3t: what's the last thing I said? :)
[18:28] <MartijnV1S> (before "what happened")
[18:29] <pr0ph3t> that I probably do not use lock screen much (true)
[18:30] <pr0ph3t> and that programs use different cursors anyways
[18:30] <MartijnV1S> pr0ph3t: sometimes you have to log out & back in for it to work everywhere I think
[18:30] <MartijnV1S> pr0ph3t: also, isn't it called "CDO" now? With the letters in proper alphabet order, AS THEY SHOULD BE?
[18:30] <MartijnV1S> something disconnected me.. half
[18:32] <pr0ph3t> MartijnV1S eheeh
[18:33] <pr0ph3t> MartijnVdS yes sometimes you need to log out and back in indeed. But it is not my case unfortunately. Right now text and resize are redglass XL, but the standard arrow is a DMZ-white one
[18:33] <pr0ph3t> *meow*
[18:36] <pr0ph3t> as much as it pains me to admit it with gnome-shell that does not happen, cursors are changed, that's it
[18:37] <MartijnVdS> pr0ph3t: sudo update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme
[18:37] <MartijnVdS> pr0ph3t: *then* log out & back in
[18:41] <MartijnVdS> pr0ph3t: file a bug :)
[19:49] <daftykins> well well, an 'old' i3 samsung laptop that fails to boot to legacy mode, only EFI - how rude
[19:50] <MartijnV1S> daftykins: my bios has a setting for that
[19:50] <MartijnV1S> daftykins: boot efi/legacy/both
[19:50] <daftykins> MartijnV1S: yeah, doesn't matter what you set on this one :D
[19:50] <MartijnV1S> heh, ewps
[19:50] <daftykins> it just plain doesn't work :D
[19:51] <daftykins> just took this thing apart for a friends sister
[19:51] <daftykins> needs a new keyboard for £17.50 off ebay then it's fixed up \o/
[19:59] <mungbean> oil rush added to HIB8
[20:21] <mungbean> found something sticky and brown in my hair. hope its chocolate
[20:22] <brobostigon> lol.
[20:38] <mungbean> quiet in here. is it cos everyone is on a narrow boat this week?
[20:41]  * mgdm isn't
[20:41] <mgdm> if I was to be on a boat it'd have a big stick and some sheets poking out of the top, ideally
[20:41] <MartijnV1S> mgdm: so.. a ghost ship?
[20:42] <mgdm> hah
[20:42] <mgdm> well played
[20:43]  * MartijnV1S off to Zzz land
[20:43] <mgdm> cheerio
[20:44] <mungbean> i was hoping brian blessed would be the new dr who
[20:44] <mungbean> all bets are on some other fella though
[20:44] <MartijnV1S> mungbean: Rupert Grint?
[20:44] <mungbean> lol no
[20:44] <mungbean> go to bed :)
[20:45] <mungbean> although moss from IT crowd would be good
[20:45] <MartijnV1S> mungbean: Hugh Laurie?
[20:45] <MartijnV1S> we know he can play a doctor
[20:47] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: other rumours are "Clara is actually a future doctor"
[20:47] <mungbean> they can make it up as they go along
[20:47] <mungbean> i do approve of the last 2 femal assistants and matt smith though