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rick_h_gamerchick02: I use androidirc00:29
gamerchick02awesome, rick_h_00:29
gamerchick02i've missed everyone too.00:29
rick_h_kind of crazy https://twitter.com/ohkiv/status/341709940320247808/photo/111:36
snap-lrick_h_: That's pretty messed up.13:11
snap-lHow's the day treating everyone so far?13:34
jrwrennot terrible.13:36
jrwrenback on the bike for commute after almost 2 weeks, so that is great.13:36
snap-lThat's progress.13:36
snap-lI wish I could commute via bike to work13:36
brouschI could, but I prefer not being run over by semis going 50MPH13:37
snap-lIt would take me an hour to get to work13:38
jrwrenhow many miles is your commute?13:38
snap-l20-30 to, 45 back13:38
jrwrenyuk.13:38
snap-loh, miles, not minutes. :)13:39
jrwrennot only would it take you at least an hour, but you'd be a sweaty mess.13:39
jrwrenWe have showers at work so I can clean up after a sweaty commute. YAY13:39
snap-lwith the freeway it's ~ 15 miles13:39
snap-lYeah, no such showers13:39
snap-lUgh, just relalized one of our biking destinations is gone13:40
snap-lused to ride up Campbell road to head to Caribou13:40
snap-lno more. :(13:40
snap-lThough I hope to get us to ride more to Royal Oak Downtown13:41
snap-lnot sure where to lock our bikes up, though13:41
snap-lSeems most folks tie them up in front of the police station, or at the library. :)13:41
snap-lalso, PHP == Pretty Horiffic Perl. ;)13:52
snap-lhttp://www.reddit.com/r/learnpython/comments/1fnlfh/til_there_is_an_else_clause_in_for_loops/16:54
rick_h_<3 that feature16:54
rick_h_use it once in a while16:54
snap-lFirst I've seen it. Pretty awesome.17:18
brouschThat is confusing17:21
brouschNot obvious17:21
brouschThe django template for ... else is much more obvious17:21
brouschhttp://www.reddit.com/r/learnpython/comments/1fnlfh/til_there_is_an_else_clause_in_for_loops/cac1xb117:30
snap-lI dunno, I think the for (break) else makes sense17:31
rick_h_gah, wtf is with the djawngo template crap today?17:31
snap-lThe Django one doesn't make any sense.17:31
rick_h_3rd person telling me how stupid templates are good until I talk to them and then they go "oh, that makes sense"17:31
snap-lrick_h_: It's all because we've been put on this earth to drive you insane17:31
jrwrenstupid templates are good?17:31
snap-lhow are we doing so far?17:32
rick_h_I'm almost there17:32
snap-lWe shall redouble our efforts17:32
jrwrenfor, else is pretty shitty python IMO.  It changes the meaning of "else"17:33
* snap-l makes some offhanded comment about how PHP should be used as a system scripting language17:33
snap-ljrwren: agreed, it should be something like "continue:"17:33
snap-lor something of that ilk17:33
snap-lIt's not obvious what it does without an explanation17:34
brouschThat's what I said!17:34
snap-lbrousch: Yeah, but then you went all weird with justifying Django's interpretation17:34
snap-lwhich also doesn't make sense17:34
brouschI think it's an implementation that makes more sense17:35
snap-lYou're just used to it. :)17:35
brouschTreats a for like an if17:35
snap-lNo, it treats it like some corner case.17:35
brouschAnd it's extremely useful17:35
snap-lIf this for loop doesn't ever run then do this17:35
brouschYou use it on pretty much every for loop coming from a database17:36
snap-lbrousch: So Django is perfect for grabbing no data from a database17:37
snap-lI think we finally found a use case for Django after all. ;)17:37
brousch:P17:37
brouschRuns really fast that way!17:38
snap-lw/me just envisioned a Reddit thread where people compare how fast their framework is at retreiving nothing17:38
snap-lor would that be hacker news17:38
brouschThe next popular comparison. Even better than todo apps17:39
jrwrendjango is great... if you are running a newspaper17:43
jrwreni saw all those pypi announcments to update packages and completely forgot that I own something there. oops!18:01
rick_h_yea, had a half dozen emails there waiting today18:02
snap-l [Global Notice] As18:41
snap-lyou've probably noticed we're experiencing a bit of network disruption. Please18:41
snap-lbear with us while we check the tubes for kittens18:41
snap-lheh18:41
=== JonathanS is now known as JonathanD
Blazeixanyone know of a good resource for beginning arduino programming? my little brother wants to start19:58
brouschThere's a book20:14
Blazeixthe oreilly one?20:25
snap-lBlazeix: How far along is your brother with Arduino stuff?20:31
snap-lAnd what age?20:31
brouschLooks like there's a lot of books now20:31
Blazeixsnap-l: just beginning. he's an engineering major with some matlab experience, and a bit of java.21:06
Blazeixhe's 1921:06
techdoodHey room22:43
brouschRemember the guy who wanted to use pymssql with kivy on android? He is getting a lesson in why you use an API23:01
brouschHe can't get the module to install, and no one can help him because no one has MS SQL server23:02

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