rick_h_ | gamerchick02: I use androidirc | 00:29 |
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gamerchick02 | awesome, rick_h_ | 00:29 |
gamerchick02 | i've missed everyone too. | 00:29 |
rick_h_ | kind of crazy https://twitter.com/ohkiv/status/341709940320247808/photo/1 | 11:36 |
snap-l | rick_h_: That's pretty messed up. | 13:11 |
snap-l | How's the day treating everyone so far? | 13:34 |
jrwren | not terrible. | 13:36 |
jrwren | back on the bike for commute after almost 2 weeks, so that is great. | 13:36 |
snap-l | That's progress. | 13:36 |
snap-l | I wish I could commute via bike to work | 13:36 |
brousch | I could, but I prefer not being run over by semis going 50MPH | 13:37 |
snap-l | It would take me an hour to get to work | 13:38 |
jrwren | how many miles is your commute? | 13:38 |
snap-l | 20-30 to, 45 back | 13:38 |
jrwren | yuk. | 13:38 |
snap-l | oh, miles, not minutes. :) | 13:39 |
jrwren | not only would it take you at least an hour, but you'd be a sweaty mess. | 13:39 |
jrwren | We have showers at work so I can clean up after a sweaty commute. YAY | 13:39 |
snap-l | with the freeway it's ~ 15 miles | 13:39 |
snap-l | Yeah, no such showers | 13:39 |
snap-l | Ugh, just relalized one of our biking destinations is gone | 13:40 |
snap-l | used to ride up Campbell road to head to Caribou | 13:40 |
snap-l | no more. :( | 13:40 |
snap-l | Though I hope to get us to ride more to Royal Oak Downtown | 13:41 |
snap-l | not sure where to lock our bikes up, though | 13:41 |
snap-l | Seems most folks tie them up in front of the police station, or at the library. :) | 13:41 |
snap-l | also, PHP == Pretty Horiffic Perl. ;) | 13:52 |
snap-l | http://www.reddit.com/r/learnpython/comments/1fnlfh/til_there_is_an_else_clause_in_for_loops/ | 16:54 |
rick_h_ | <3 that feature | 16:54 |
rick_h_ | use it once in a while | 16:54 |
snap-l | First I've seen it. Pretty awesome. | 17:18 |
brousch | That is confusing | 17:21 |
brousch | Not obvious | 17:21 |
brousch | The django template for ... else is much more obvious | 17:21 |
brousch | http://www.reddit.com/r/learnpython/comments/1fnlfh/til_there_is_an_else_clause_in_for_loops/cac1xb1 | 17:30 |
snap-l | I dunno, I think the for (break) else makes sense | 17:31 |
rick_h_ | gah, wtf is with the djawngo template crap today? | 17:31 |
snap-l | The Django one doesn't make any sense. | 17:31 |
rick_h_ | 3rd person telling me how stupid templates are good until I talk to them and then they go "oh, that makes sense" | 17:31 |
snap-l | rick_h_: It's all because we've been put on this earth to drive you insane | 17:31 |
jrwren | stupid templates are good? | 17:31 |
snap-l | how are we doing so far? | 17:32 |
rick_h_ | I'm almost there | 17:32 |
snap-l | We shall redouble our efforts | 17:32 |
jrwren | for, else is pretty shitty python IMO. It changes the meaning of "else" | 17:33 |
* snap-l makes some offhanded comment about how PHP should be used as a system scripting language | 17:33 | |
snap-l | jrwren: agreed, it should be something like "continue:" | 17:33 |
snap-l | or something of that ilk | 17:33 |
snap-l | It's not obvious what it does without an explanation | 17:34 |
brousch | That's what I said! | 17:34 |
snap-l | brousch: Yeah, but then you went all weird with justifying Django's interpretation | 17:34 |
snap-l | which also doesn't make sense | 17:34 |
brousch | I think it's an implementation that makes more sense | 17:35 |
snap-l | You're just used to it. :) | 17:35 |
brousch | Treats a for like an if | 17:35 |
snap-l | No, it treats it like some corner case. | 17:35 |
brousch | And it's extremely useful | 17:35 |
snap-l | If this for loop doesn't ever run then do this | 17:35 |
brousch | You use it on pretty much every for loop coming from a database | 17:36 |
snap-l | brousch: So Django is perfect for grabbing no data from a database | 17:37 |
snap-l | I think we finally found a use case for Django after all. ;) | 17:37 |
brousch | :P | 17:37 |
brousch | Runs really fast that way! | 17:38 |
snap-l | w/me just envisioned a Reddit thread where people compare how fast their framework is at retreiving nothing | 17:38 |
snap-l | or would that be hacker news | 17:38 |
brousch | The next popular comparison. Even better than todo apps | 17:39 |
jrwren | django is great... if you are running a newspaper | 17:43 |
jrwren | i saw all those pypi announcments to update packages and completely forgot that I own something there. oops! | 18:01 |
rick_h_ | yea, had a half dozen emails there waiting today | 18:02 |
snap-l | [Global Notice] As | 18:41 |
snap-l | you've probably noticed we're experiencing a bit of network disruption. Please | 18:41 |
snap-l | bear with us while we check the tubes for kittens | 18:41 |
snap-l | heh | 18:41 |
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Blazeix | anyone know of a good resource for beginning arduino programming? my little brother wants to start | 19:58 |
brousch | There's a book | 20:14 |
Blazeix | the oreilly one? | 20:25 |
snap-l | Blazeix: How far along is your brother with Arduino stuff? | 20:31 |
snap-l | And what age? | 20:31 |
brousch | Looks like there's a lot of books now | 20:31 |
Blazeix | snap-l: just beginning. he's an engineering major with some matlab experience, and a bit of java. | 21:06 |
Blazeix | he's 19 | 21:06 |
techdood | Hey room | 22:43 |
brousch | Remember the guy who wanted to use pymssql with kivy on android? He is getting a lesson in why you use an API | 23:01 |
brousch | He can't get the module to install, and no one can help him because no one has MS SQL server | 23:02 |
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