[00:07] <tsimpson> that'll be KDE 4.3.10
[00:07] <tsimpson> *4.10.3
[00:09] <|kira> time to restart X lol
[00:11] <tsimpson> don't need to restart X, just logout :p
[00:12] <|kira> graphics driver updates too lol
[03:44] <fractaline> is kmail laid out in a really awkward manner or is it just me
[03:44] <fractaline> ??
[06:58] <alvin> I see the June updates are in. Are they complete yet? Safe to install?
[07:00] <|kira> alvin: Nothing blew up for me
[07:00] <alvin> |kira: ok, thanks for testing ;-)
[07:01] <alvin> I don't see any telepathy changes.
[07:01] <alvin> ok, let's do this. Stopping lightdm...
[07:02] <mokush> 4.10.4 updates are already available in the ppa? great job guys
[07:09] <alvin> Actually, it still says 4.10.3 here, but I installed them. Good news, the telepathy presense indicator no longer crashes my plasma-desktop (although there's nothing about it in the list of changes)
[07:59] <alvin> I have trouble typing the ^ character in KDE applications. I had to paste it here (Quassel). I can type it in non-KDE applications though. Opera, LibreOffice,... but not in Konsole. Any ideas?
[07:59] <valorie> ^
[07:59] <valorie> that's in konversation
[08:00] <valorie> works in konsole as well
[08:00] <alvin> Yes, but maybe you are blessed with a QWERTY keyboard. I'm not.
[08:00] <valorie> ah, true
[08:00] <valorie> I am
[08:02] <alvin> Well, I have one at home, but not at work. We use AZERTY (because of some wars and occupation in the past - funny how these things come to pass). The weird part is that it works outside KDE (and outside X)
[08:08] <valorie> gotta be some keymapping thing
[08:46] <Shubuntu> hey guys, anyone had trouble with quassel not showing whois window?
[09:07] <alvin> Shubuntu: click the name of the IRC server. It's not shown in the channel itself
[09:07] <alvin> ok, plasma-desktop crashed on sending email and I can't start it again...
[09:29] <rimd2r> むかってる
[09:30] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[10:55] <adugeek> Hello  ,every one
[11:01] <fractaline> hello  adugeek
[11:48] <rottingdead> Hello, I'm not familiar with grub:2, how do I add nomodeset to kernel line? Nouveau isn't working with my nvidia card correctly, and causes my system to freeze up.
[11:49] <rottingdead> Once I get my nVidia Drivers installed(Can't think of the package name in Kubuntu), I don't have to worry about nomodeset.
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:24] <Captain_Proton> anyone know what widget in netbook interface that is use for closing apps? I remove it and can not find it again
[12:35] <mokush> Captain_Proton: I think you're talking about 'current application control'
[12:55] <Captain_Proton> mokush: thanks i will take a look
[13:03] <Captain_Proton> mokush: that was it thanks
[13:03] <mokush> Captain_Proton: cool
[13:14] <ovidiu-florin> hello world :D
[13:14] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: ping
[13:29] <szx> http://askubuntu.com/questions/304396/missing-show-a-luncher-when-not-running-option-in-kde
[13:29] <szx> anybody knows?
[13:29] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: ping
[13:31] <BluesKaj> no need to ping , ovidiu-florin , just my nick will notify me on Konversation
[13:32] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[13:32] <ovidiu-florin> remember my problem with Nouveau & Nvidia?
[13:34] <BluesKaj> yes , ovidiu-florin , but I've forgotten which nvidia card
[13:34] <ovidiu-florin> I've been using Nouveau since then. Yesterday it acted again... no more signal on DVI, then on VGA, then the other way around. then no signal at all
[13:34] <ovidiu-florin> VIDIA Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 220] (rev a2)
[13:34] <ovidiu-florin> and now... sometimes it shows me this: http://postimg.org/image/wjnd7lwyf/
[13:36] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: how do I check for the Nvidia driver version? I forgo
[13:36] <ovidiu-florin> forgot*
[13:36] <ovidiu-florin> I mean which one do I have installed
[13:36] <BluesKaj> dkms status
[13:41] <ovidiu-florin> I tried nvidia-smi
[13:41] <ovidiu-florin> got a good result: NVIDIA-SMI 4.304.88   Driver Version: 304.88
[13:41] <ovidiu-florin> yeah... that one is current updates
[13:41] <ovidiu-florin> I've been recommended to use 319, is that available in kubuntu?
[13:41] <BluesKaj> what does dkms status give , ovidiu-florin
[13:42] <ovidiu-florin> nvidia-current-updates, 304.88, 3.5.0-32-generic, x86_64: installed
[13:42] <BluesKaj> and you're on 13.04 ?
[13:43] <ovidiu-florin> no
[13:43] <ovidiu-florin> on 12.10
[13:44] <ovidiu-florin> should I upgrade?
[13:44] <BluesKaj> hmm, 12.10 had some graphics troubles , and the 319 driver might work on it , not sure ,since I'm on 13.10 with the 319 , but I can go back and check on the 13.04 install
[13:45] <ovidiu-florin> when is the next LTS?
[13:45] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, give me 5 mins ..bbl
[13:57] <BluesKaj> the default driver for 13.04 is 313.30 , which is more stable than the 308 , ovidiu-florin
[13:57] <ovidiu-florin> so I should upgrade to 13.04
[13:57] <ovidiu-florin> muon or APT?
[13:58] <BluesKaj> 13.04 is relatively bugfree vs 12.10 IMO ,and yes an upgrade to 13.04 will probly help alot
[13:59] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, first of all run a sudo apt-get-update;sudo apt-get upgrade  , before doing the OS upgrade
[13:59] <ovidiu-florin> upgrade or reinstall?
[14:00] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: of course
[14:01] <BluesKaj> depends , how much time do yuo have , a netupgrade can take a while depending on your internet connection
[14:02] <ovidiu-florin> which is more stable?
[14:02] <ovidiu-florin> and bug free?
[14:04] <BluesKaj> 13.04 is more stable in my experience
[14:05] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: I mean which way or upgrading?
[14:05] <ovidiu-florin> upgrade, or reinstall?
[14:05] <ovidiu-florin> fo*
[14:05] <ovidiu-florin> of**
[14:07] <BluesKaj> either one will work , but if you do-release-upgrade in the terminal it should work fine , saves time backing up all your data
[14:07] <BluesKaj> although you should anyway
[14:12] <ovidiu-florin> I've started do-release-upgrade
[14:12] <ovidiu-florin> how does it work, BTW?
[14:36] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[15:26] <StFS> Hi. I'm having problems with logging in if I create an .xsession file. The only thing it has is a single line "export SOME_VARIABLE=/some/path" but that seems to be enough to cause kdm to fail on login... if I move the file out of the way it logs in just fine... any idea what the problem is?
[15:26] <StFS> I'm using kubuntu 12.04.2
[15:53] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: pong
[15:53] <lordievader> Good afternoon, all :)
[15:58] <kristjan> Hi, how can i install kubuntu next to win8 ?
[16:01] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: upgrade finished, uninstalling Nvidia driver and rebooting
[16:01] <ovidiu-florin> bbl
[16:01] <ovidiu-florin> hey lordievader
[16:02] <ovidiu-florin> Problems with nouveau .....
[16:02] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Again? *sigh*
[16:03] <lordievader> The freezing? Or something else this time?
[16:07] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: something else
[16:07] <lordievader> What exactly?
[16:08] <ovidiu-florin> it stopped sending signal over DVI, then over VGA, then over both, then again on both....
[16:08] <ovidiu-florin> and eventually, it showed this: http://postimg.org/image/wjnd7lwyf/
[16:09] <ovidiu-florin> I installed nvidia current updates, and of course, max 800x600
[16:09] <ovidiu-florin> greeeat...
[16:09] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Did you test the monitor on another machine?
[16:09] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: I've upgraded to 13.04
[16:10] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: no, I havent, because it worked today....
[16:10] <ovidiu-florin> until a reboot
[16:10] <ovidiu-florin> now, I've upgraded to 13.04
[16:11] <ovidiu-florin> nouveau, is stuck at max 800x600
[16:11] <ovidiu-florin> trying nvidia
[16:11] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Maybe you should, the video card is saying the EDID checksum is invalid. It might also explain why you get 800x600.
[16:11] <ovidiu-florin> what is EDID?
[16:11] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_display_identification_data
[16:11] <ovidiu-florin> aha
[16:12] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: It tells the pc supported resolutions for example.
[16:12] <ovidiu-florin> ok, I'll try a different monitor
[16:12] <kristjan> kubuntu next to win 8
[16:12] <kristjan> please help
[16:13] <ovidiu-florin> kristjan: what do you not know?
[16:15] <ovidiu-florin> kristjan: you can ask in romanian in #ubuntu-ro
[16:19] <kristjan> ovidiu-florin sorry i dont speak romanian and also i dont know how to install kubuntu next to win 8
[16:20] <kristjan> i need some help with that
[16:22] <ovidiu-florin> kristjan: your WHOIS says you are connecte from Pitești, RO
[16:23] <kristjan> hahaaa
[16:23] <kristjan> currently in in helsinki finland
[16:23] <ovidiu-florin> hmm...
[16:23] <ovidiu-florin> weird
[16:23] <tsimpson> the server you connect to has no relation to where you are
[16:24] <ovidiu-florin> tsimpson: thank's for the heads-up
[16:24] <kristjan> ok this problem is solved
[16:24] <kristjan> kuntu next to win 8 now
[16:24] <ovidiu-florin> kristjan: on wich step of the installation do you have problems?
[16:25] <kristjan> when im tryng to install from usb , windows gives mes some error message
[16:25] <kristjan> like some file is missing or something
[16:25] <kristjan> i disabled the secure boot but nothing changes
[16:30] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader, BluesKaj Installed nvidia-313-updates... no help
[16:31] <ovidiu-florin> kristjan: are you sure the USB flash drive is set up correctly?
[16:31] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Is the display correctly ID'ed on another machine?
[16:31] <ovidiu-florin> windows shouldn't have anything to comment while kubuntu boots
[16:31] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: how do I test that?
[16:31] <ovidiu-florin> check the resolution?
[16:31] <lordievader> Got to go, ttyl.
[16:32] <kristjan> usb should be ok
[16:32] <ovidiu-florin> kristjan: can you test it elsewhere?
[16:32] <ovidiu-florin> !uefi
[16:33] <ovidiu-florin> kristjan: this might help ^
[16:33] <ovidiu-florin> if you have uefi
[16:33] <ovidiu-florin> bbl
[16:34] <kristjan> thanks for the link
[16:36] <kristjan> i have to disable fastboot, intel smart response and fast startup
[16:37] <kristjan> i dont see any of those in my bios
[16:39] <puff`> I'm running raring withk kubuntu-desktop and my bluetooth mouse seems to need to be re-found after every suspend-to-ram.  Also, the bluetooth widget on the task bar seems to disappear and reappear semi-randomly, so when I need to re-find the mouse, I can't find the bluetooth widget...
[16:43] <ovidiu-florin_> lordievader: are you back?
[16:50] <ovidiu-florin> kristjan: you have eighter bios or uefi
[16:51] <kristjan> hm, i think i have bios
[16:56] <ovidiu-florin> kristjan: can you boot from the USB?
[16:57] <kristjan> nope
[16:57] <ovidiu-florin> kristjan: sorry for the interrupted help, I'm struggling with my video drivers
[16:57] <ovidiu-florin> I can't allways see the screen
[16:57] <kristjan> no problev
[16:58] <ovidiu-florin> kristjan: in that case, eighter the flash drive is not set up correctly, or your bios is not configured to boot off it
[16:58] <kristjan> i get the error message when it starts to boot
[16:58] <ovidiu-florin> kristjan: laptop?
[16:58] <kristjan> laptop
[16:58] <ovidiu-florin> what laptop?
[16:58] <kristjan> samsung chronos 7
[17:00] <kristjan> when it starts i can chose between kubuntu and win 8
[17:00] <kristjan> but when i klick on kubuntu
[17:01] <kristjan> i get the message windows filed to start. a recent hardware or software change might be the cause
[17:02] <kristjan> file ubuntu winboot wubildr.mbr
[17:02] <kristjan> status 0x000007b
[17:04] <ovidiu-florin> have you managed to install kubuntu before on this laptop?
[17:04] <ovidiu-florin> kristjan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1935699
[17:04] <kristjan> nope, just got it
[17:07] <ovidiu-florin> try the stuff mentioned on the link I gave you
[17:08] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[17:09] <kristjan> i cant find in bios how to enable legacy devices boot
[17:10] <ovidiu-florin> look through the menus
[17:14] <kristjan> cant find it
[17:15] <kristjan> usb stick is formated to fat16
[17:16] <kristjan> and installation disc created with startup disc creator
[17:16] <kristjan> should be ok
[17:21] <ovidiu-florin> it shoud be fat32
[17:21] <ovidiu-florin> kristjan: ^
[17:21] <kristjan> im here
[17:21] <kristjan> fat32
[17:21] <kristjan> ok
[17:22] <kristjan> i will make it
[17:25] <AceKing> I just installed 13.04 64 bit on my laptop, and my wireless is running real slow. I went online looking for solutions for my specific adapter, (Realtek RTL8723AE) but nothing is working.. Can someone help? Here is the output from lspci -vv paste.ubuntu.com/5736350/
[17:32] <kristjan> ovidiu-lorin i get the same error message
[17:48] <kristjan> in my other laptop usb works fine
[17:51] <Guest61418> Hi every body
[17:51] <Guest61418> this is sarath
[17:57] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: ping
[18:20] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: pong
[18:20] <ovidiu-florin> nothing works
[18:21] <ovidiu-florin> I'm switching to Arch Linux
[18:21] <ovidiu-florin> or suse
[18:21] <ovidiu-florin> haven't decided yet
[19:33] <dcorbin> I downloaded a v12 iso.  It passes the md5 check.  But the DVD won't boot.  My v13 ISO boots fine.
[20:05] <infrid> hi
[20:12] <RaphaelAraujo> Hi there people. Anybody there knows which file format the GTK icons theme needs to be in the KDE Config GTK Style thingy on System Settings? I'm trying to put Faenza as my gtk theme (since I already use Kfaenza as my kde theme), but after selecting the Faenza.tar.gz, the "Install Icons" button stays grayed out.
[21:31] <robin> will kde 4.10.4 be avialable for kubuntu 13.04?
[21:31] <BigWig_> Is there a way to make Kubuntu stop telling me to upgrade a package that I definitely do not want to upgrade?
[21:31] <BigWig_> My Wacom Tablet doesn't play nice with the new drivers..
[21:32] <genii> !pinning | BigWig_
[21:33] <BigWig_> genii:  Thanks!
[21:34] <Guest37005> hello, does anyone know how to toggle KWin effects in the terminal? I just want to figure out the command to toggle one specific effect this way.
[21:49] <Muc_Baer_Hotel> Hello from Munich
[23:53] <leonov> hello everyone
[23:59] <dcorbin> I burned a CD from  valid (signature matched) 12.04 .iso .  Won't boot.  Suggestions?