| infinity | FreezingCold: What sort of production system? (But, yes, we run it in production all the time) | 00:00 |
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| FreezingCold | infinity: actually I was just referring in general. In my case, payment/record keeping | 00:01 |
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| infinity | FreezingCold: If you can find hardware you think is decent/stable, I assure you that our software is fine. | 00:04 |
| doomlord_ | does it run on the mk908, or to ask another question, whats the most powerful device that can run ubuntu-arm | 00:06 |
| FreezingCold | doomlord_: I'd like to know too | 00:07 |
| FreezingCold | the MK908 would more or less be stable enough (probably) | 00:07 |
| FreezingCold | the problem I see with MK's is that Ubuntu has to normally do some kind of funky flash/update, no? | 00:08 |
| infinity | Well, there are differences between "will it run on", "do we have an installer for", and "do we have a kernel for". | 00:09 |
| infinity | We don't provide a kernel or installer for the MK908, but our userspace would run just fine on it. | 00:09 |
| infinity | Which is true of any armv7 device. | 00:10 |
| infinity | As for ones we provide kernels for, the Calxeda stuff's probably the "most powerful". | 00:10 |
| infinity | But also pricy. :P | 00:10 |
| doomlord_ | oh the servers? | 00:10 |
| doomlord_ | i still haven't got round to trying it on my N7 .. last i heard there were some problems | 00:11 |
| infinity | Ubuntu Touch is still a work in progress, for sure. | 00:12 |
| lilstevie | the funky flash-kernel stuff is only a convenience thing, you can still run perfectly fine without it | 00:44 |
| lilstevie | just updating kernels is a bit more manual | 00:44 |
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| imblaze | hello all | 07:50 |
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| Snark | hi | 08:34 |
| Snark | I have a problem with the libc6-dev package (version 2.17-0ubuntu5): it has a stubs.h which #includes a stubs-soft.h, but the package doesn't have it! | 08:34 |
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| Snark | shall I report it as a bug or do I overlook something? | 08:38 |
| infinity | Snark: It only includes stubs-soft.h if you're building with -mfloat-abi=soft | 08:42 |
| infinity | Snark: And if you're doing that, you need libc6-dev-armel installed. | 08:42 |
| Snark | ah, but I'm not sure I do that | 08:46 |
| Snark | infinity: see the build log here: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/attachment/ticket/14689/atlas-3.10.1.p0.log | 08:46 |
| infinity | Snark: Oh, this is a non-GCC compiler? | 08:48 |
| infinity | Snark: On armhf, it needs to be defining __ARM_PCS_VFP | 08:49 |
| infinity | I've already made this fix to a few compilers... | 08:49 |
| infinity | Snark: Of course, this could be a sign of said compiler not having been ported to hard-float at all, in which case, it'll break subtly even if you force it to build. | 08:50 |
| Snark | a non gcc? | 08:55 |
| Snark | I don't think I have that on that box | 08:55 |
| infinity | Snark: Erm. I mean the build itself. It's not GCC that's failing, it's this xprobe_comp thing. | 08:55 |
| infinity | Snark: Which is failing to set the right defines for hard-float. Which *might* mean it's not ported to the hard-float ABI at all. | 08:56 |
| infinity | Although, atlas in the Debian and Ubuntu archives builds for armhf. | 08:57 |
| infinity | Snark: Anyhow, the bug is with the thing you're building, not with our toolchain. stubs-soft.h isn't meant to be there when you're building for armhf. | 08:59 |
| Snark | ok | 09:00 |
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| hrw | ech fun... I locked my chromebook with wrong kernel and forgot to enable boot from usb | 10:41 |
| hrw | ;( | 10:41 |
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| houkouonchi-home | Anyone know of a good environment that will have a lot of tools/ssh (just a kernel/initrd) that can run on arm? | 20:53 |
| houkouonchi-home | hoping for more than just a simple busybox | 20:54 |
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