[00:00] FreezingCold: What sort of production system? (But, yes, we run it in production all the time) [00:01] infinity: actually I was just referring in general. In my case, payment/record keeping === micahg_ is now known as micahg [00:04] FreezingCold: If you can find hardware you think is decent/stable, I assure you that our software is fine. [00:06] does it run on the mk908, or to ask another question, whats the most powerful device that can run ubuntu-arm [00:07] doomlord_: I'd like to know too [00:07] the MK908 would more or less be stable enough (probably) [00:08] the problem I see with MK's is that Ubuntu has to normally do some kind of funky flash/update, no? [00:09] Well, there are differences between "will it run on", "do we have an installer for", and "do we have a kernel for". [00:09] We don't provide a kernel or installer for the MK908, but our userspace would run just fine on it. [00:10] Which is true of any armv7 device. [00:10] As for ones we provide kernels for, the Calxeda stuff's probably the "most powerful". [00:10] But also pricy. :P [00:10] oh the servers? [00:11] i still haven't got round to trying it on my N7 .. last i heard there were some problems [00:12] Ubuntu Touch is still a work in progress, for sure. [00:44] the funky flash-kernel stuff is only a convenience thing, you can still run perfectly fine without it [00:44] just updating kernels is a bit more manual === chuck_ is now known as zul === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === wgrant_ is now known as wgrant === ynezz_ is now known as ynezz [07:50] hello all === RagBal_ is now known as RagBal === lag` is now known as lag [08:34] hi [08:34] I have a problem with the libc6-dev package (version 2.17-0ubuntu5): it has a stubs.h which #includes a stubs-soft.h, but the package doesn't have it! === rbasak_ is now known as rbasak [08:38] shall I report it as a bug or do I overlook something? [08:42] Snark: It only includes stubs-soft.h if you're building with -mfloat-abi=soft [08:42] Snark: And if you're doing that, you need libc6-dev-armel installed. [08:46] ah, but I'm not sure I do that [08:46] infinity: see the build log here: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/attachment/ticket/14689/atlas-3.10.1.p0.log [08:48] Snark: Oh, this is a non-GCC compiler? [08:49] Snark: On armhf, it needs to be defining __ARM_PCS_VFP [08:49] I've already made this fix to a few compilers... [08:50] Snark: Of course, this could be a sign of said compiler not having been ported to hard-float at all, in which case, it'll break subtly even if you force it to build. [08:55] a non gcc? [08:55] I don't think I have that on that box [08:55] Snark: Erm. I mean the build itself. It's not GCC that's failing, it's this xprobe_comp thing. [08:56] Snark: Which is failing to set the right defines for hard-float. Which *might* mean it's not ported to the hard-float ABI at all. [08:57] Although, atlas in the Debian and Ubuntu archives builds for armhf. [08:59] Snark: Anyhow, the bug is with the thing you're building, not with our toolchain. stubs-soft.h isn't meant to be there when you're building for armhf. [09:00] ok === doko_ is now known as doko === psivaa_ is now known as psivaa === dmart_ is now known as dmart === ndec_ is now known as ndec === chihchun_ is now known as chihchun [10:41] ech fun... I locked my chromebook with wrong kernel and forgot to enable boot from usb [10:41] ;( === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer === Tassadar is now known as Guest48666 === Darkwing_ is now known as Darkwing === hrww is now known as hrw === nslu2-log_ is now known as nslu2-log === davmor2_ is now known as davmor2 === nslu2-log_ is now known as nslu2-log === ashams is now known as Guest15032 === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === discopig is now known as Guest66982 === lan3y is now known as Laney === lilstevie_ is now known as lilstevie === nslu2-log_ is now known as nslu2-log === chrisvire2 is now known as chrisvire === Guest66982 is now known as discopig === philhug_ is now known as philhug === zumbi is now known as Guest41081 === lan3y is now known as Laney === Laney is now known as Guest71473 === Guest71473 is now known as Laney === hrww is now known as hrw === nslu2-log_ is now known as nslu2-log === lool- is now known as lool === zumbi_ is now known as Guest66489 === jibel_ is now known as jibel === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === plars is now known as plars-afk === jamespag` is now known as jamespage === dduffey_afk is now known as dduffey === psivaa is now known as psivaa_AFK === blackjack is now known as vhadil === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Dioxin_ is now known as Dioxin === zumbi is now known as Guest1230 === nslu2-log_ is now known as nslu2-log === yofel_ is now known as yofel === saeedbishara is now known as 77CAAAFJD === ndec_ is now known as ndec === hggdh is now known as ubotu-br === ubotu-br is now known as ubotu-br` === ubotu-br` is now known as hggdh [20:53] Anyone know of a good environment that will have a lot of tools/ssh (just a kernel/initrd) that can run on arm? [20:54] hoping for more than just a simple busybox === Guest1230 is now known as zumbi === zumbi is now known as Guest86601 === phh_ is now known as phh === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun