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xubuntu371when i install the xubunut,what should i do next ?05:00
boogheeMonhey why is my internet being used when Ubunut 13.04 is idle? is it bluetooth ? i disabled that and it has persisted. is there a way to see what's going on ? is it the Ubuntu Cloud symbol thing Ubuntu One ? how do I deable that all together ?06:18
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xubuntu842I witnessed how ubuntu stops working itself, from nothing08:26
xubuntu842I had multiple sessions, everything clean, and then logging in the kde session, made xserver to fail08:27
xubuntu842and now I am waiting on  sudo ecryptfs-recover-private08:27
xubuntu842to get my files08:27
xubuntu842this could also be, because, no more space was left on ubuntu 41 gb partition, installation made08:28
xubuntu842(things got complicated when kubuntu installation made another partition this large, before)08:29
Sysiif your root partition goes 100% full, lightdm won't start08:30
xubuntu842that is sad08:30
Sysiyeah, took some time to debug too08:30
TheSheepit also stops working when you set it on fire08:30
TheSheep"doctor, it hurts me whan I do this" "then don't do this"08:31
xubuntu842I have been full ubuntu system type user for year, and even I never driver issues, or stability problems, system is easy to go down08:31
xubuntu842I seriously start to feel, that putting files on windows partition could be safer at the moment08:32
xubuntu842The folder ".backup" cannot be handled because you do not have permissions to read it.\08:37
xubuntu842damn it]08:37
xubuntu842I will loose files if it can't copy from encrypted shitty partition08:39
TheSheep!language | xubuntu84208:39
ubottuxubuntu842: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.08:39
xubuntu842nothing works today, my skype accaunt wasn't aveable08:44
xubuntu842ubuntu broke08:44
TheSheepdo you have any specific questions we can help you with?08:44
xubuntu842no, I am glad you asked08:45
TheSheepif you do, plase don't hesitate to ask08:46
Name141how do you "safley remove" a USB device with XFCE as the default GUI09:09
Name141is it the same as eject?09:09
bazhangif thats the only option there, then yes09:11
xubuntu842I like win 7 user interface, I find xfce lacking of eye candy, any other distro that could satisfy my needs?09:14
TheSheepmaybe try at #compiz09:15
Name141Original Ubuntu? Kubuntu ?09:16
xubuntu842have tried both09:16
Name141Mint with Cinnamon ?09:16
* Name141 shrugs09:16
TheSheepxubuntu842: enlightenement perhaps? :)09:16
xubuntu842cinnamon feels like xp and I even like xp better..09:16
Sysikubuntu has tons more of eycandy than windows, though all of it isn't enabled by default09:17
xubuntu842but kubuntu seems to take resources as windows 7, and eye candy is pretty arguable, I find some parts of it ugly09:17
Sysiwell, features tend to use resources09:18
xubuntu842I will probably have to go with ubuntu, again, after huge file transferring I am doing today09:18
Sysicompiz on xubuntu could be lighter09:18
xubuntu842today, overloading partition caused me to not go to school09:22
xubuntu842tommorow kernel error will cause city's to loose electricity09:23
xubuntu842but I guess it's gui09:23
xubuntu921Good morning all09:25
xubuntu921Question (if I may)09:25
xubuntu921Installed 13 Ubuntu Server and ontop Xubuntu desktop09:25
xubuntu921All in VMware (Fussion)09:26
xubuntu921Runs and starts ok09:26
xubuntu921But when entering desktop (login) and changing resolution via settings->display09:26
xubuntu921It bombs out to login09:26
xubuntu921and the only way to return functionality is to delete all .config/xfce and .cache files09:26
xubuntu921Any idea how to get it working in higher res perm?09:27
xubuntu842server needs resolution?09:27
xubuntu921I need desktop on server to help noob user manage some stuff09:27
xubuntu842I guess you can't cause wm doesn't have gpu capabilities09:27
xubuntu921Normal ubuntu-desktop works though09:28
xubuntu921Maybe I am missing something09:28
xubuntu921It switches to high res but then I cant relogin - something weird and I read a bug on this but its old09:29
xubuntu921Trying Kubuntu now - to ensure its a Xubuntu issue as I have successfully installed Ubuntu desktop without issues09:30
xubuntu921brb09:30
xubuntu842maybe document the process xubunturandom user09:31
xubuntu921(pm me if you have alternative suggestions - thanks)09:31
Sysixubuntu921: guest additions installed? graphics driver is available in repositories I think09:32
xubuntu921No - vmware tools tried to install but having issues.09:33
xubuntu921It's ok - I thought it was a know issue and possibly I would have a quick fix here (probably wrong)09:34
Sysiwhen I tried vmware fusion, even if I got the additions installed, never got fullscreen with right resolution, switched to virtualbox09:34
xubuntu921LoL - fair enough09:34
Sysiit should work on real hardware, if it's a srver I'd try 12.0409:34
xubuntu92113 is flacky?09:35
xubuntu84212.04 is supposed to be stable09:35
xubuntu921In reality want to have desktop remotely (not locally) so VNC is final goal ...09:35
xubuntu842btw how hard is to remove ubuntu partitions from windows?09:35
xubuntu921(ok will try 12.04 instead - thanks!)09:35
Sysi13.04 is so new that (free) vmware might not be up to running it properly09:36
xubuntu921Good man/woman Sysi - thanks09:37
xubuntu921:P09:37
Sysisir sysi :P you're welcome09:38
Starcraftmazterhi12:11
Starcraftmazterafter installing fglrx i get this12:11
StarcraftmazterUnable to open /etc/ati/control, please reinstall the driver.12:11
Starcraftmazterwhen trying to run aticonfig12:11
Starcraftmazterwhich is also not in PATH12:11
Starcraftmazteri kind of feel like something wasnt done, ive done this literally a week ago on another computer and it worked fine12:11
Starcraftmazteranyone know whats up?12:11
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Guest39430my asus laptop after trying to fix MRB failes to boot13:12
Guest39430pls give me link to microsoft irc13:12
SonikkuAmerica##windows13:12
SonikkuAmericaStart there...13:13
Guest39430tnx13:17
Guest39430I tried this http://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/13:17
Guest39430can't start laptop now, nothing shows after asus intel logo13:17
Guest39430I needed to remove ubuntu partitions and fix MRB,13:18
cfhowlettGuest39430, you're dual booting?  windows 8?13:20
Guest39430I was dualbooting with 713:24
Guest39430tried to delete unneded partitions13:25
Guest39430in windows 713:25
cfhowlettGuest39430, reinstall win7, format the disk.  then install ubuntu13:25
Starcraftmazterhas there been an update to the fglrx driver recently?13:26
Starcraftmazterthe install process is completely broken13:26
ztxgpsman[off topic] does anyone know if undernet is down?13:31
SonikkuAmerica2!ot13:32
ubottu#xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!13:32
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ztxgpsmanSonikkuAmerica, wasn't aware of the ot channel! tks13:34
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mikubuntuwondering can i load more than one booting .iso onto a usb stik?13:43
cfhowlettmikubuntu, yes you can13:44
mikubuntucfhowlett: so how will it behave -- i have ubuntu on the stik, but i also want to add xubuntu and lubuntu, particularly over the 'pae' issue --- when i insert it to a target, will it give me the opportunity to choose which iso to install?13:45
cfhowlettmikubuntu, umm, ok.  multiboot linux ubuntu usb is what you're looking for.  as far as multiple distros, I advise a different approach.  Install a *buntu.  then install the alternate desktop environments.  pick and choose then install the corresponding distro.13:48
cfhowlettmikubuntu, for example, install ubuntu.  then install xfce4 and lxde to see what xubuntu and lubuntu would look like.13:48
koegshttp://www.pendrivelinux.com/boot-multiple-iso-from-usb-via-grub2-using-linux/13:49
cfhowlett!cookie|koegs,13:49
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ubottukoegs,: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!13:49
koegsi have followed that instructions basically, but you might want to adapt the grub.cfg to your likings13:50
mikubuntuoh, well the two laptops i pickd up at a garage sale won't accept ubuntu -- 'system requires pae' -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195967513:50
cfhowlettmikubuntu, xubuntu and lubuntu are optimized for older/low spec machines.13:51
mikubuntucfhowlett: yeah, thats why i want to install them -- but i just have the one stick available -- maybe i should just erase and rewrite over the ubuntu iso for simplicity sake13:52
cfhowlettmikubuntu, sounds like a plan13:55
cfhowlettyou can still try the other desktop environment once you've installed13:56
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m1chaeldoes Redo Backup work for Windows8/efi partitions? I performed a backup image with it, but I am nervous about actually having to use it if I have to16:14
bazhangm1chael, how does that relate to ubuntu support16:18
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nikolamI tried to map out 2 portions of RAM not to be used by kernel. An I mistakenly ended up with only 116MB RAM usable by xubuntu.17:26
nikolamIt actually booted up rather fine, considering swapping and low ram situation :P17:27
Luke___hi17:43
Luke___I've googled but couldn't find ...17:44
Luke___I'm going to install xubuntu (to avoid Unity ;) )17:44
Luke___I'm using live xubuntu (usb stick)17:44
Luke___I would like to use/enable custom mount option before I will go on with the installation17:45
Luke___do you have any idea how can I do that? since as far as I remember installer starts his work imediatelly after assigning partitions to the mount points17:46
Luke___(via partman I believe)17:46
bazhangsuch as what17:46
bazhangseparate /home?17:47
bazhang /boot ?17:47
Luke___you mean what mount options I would like to enable?17:47
bazhangyep17:47
Luke___it's for laptop so I thought to create two partition: / and /home17:48
Guest40767my monitor is saying can't display in this mode after i switched from a newer larger display to an older smaller display17:48
Guest40767can i fix this via the command line?17:48
Luke___ / would be btrfs and /home would be ext417:48
bazhangLuke___, that makes a lot of sense17:48
bazhangGuest40767, with xrandr ?17:49
Luke___I would like to enable compression for / (btrfs) and some SSD friendly options for both17:49
Guest40767bazhang: i dont know man17:49
bazhangGuest40767, did you try it?17:49
koegsLuke___: the installer allows to configure custom partitioning17:49
koegsmount options, you might have to edit later in /etc/fstab17:50
Guest40767bazhang: no i have no idea what that is so thats why i asked17:50
Luke___koegs: yep, but if it is possible I thought to enable it before the installation and to have it enabled during the installation17:51
bazhangGuest40767, its a command17:51
Luke___if I i.e. will mount sda5 (/) under /target/   and sda6 (/home) under /target/home .... do you think it will be pickedup by the installer?17:52
Guest40767bazhang: oh ok so i just type that into my terminal17:53
koegsLuke___: why do you want to do it that way?17:53
Guest40767bazhang: im booting into recovery mode to hopefully see the command prompt17:53
Luke___koegs: you mean, why am I pushing to do it before installation?17:54
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Guest40767bazhang: it says cannot open display17:54
koegsduring installation say "something else", then either create the partitions or use existing partitions, so say sda5 should be ext4 mounted as / and sda6 should be used as btrfs as /home17:54
koegsLuke___: yes, you do not need to mount them before the installation17:55
David-ALuke___: you can partition and format everything (with e.g. gparted in the live system) and during install tell what partitions to use and not to format them. (I not tested with btrf or compression, if that would foil this plan). (the installer may format swap anyway, i i r c)17:55
Luke___koegs: yes, but then the installer will mount them for me without the mount options I would like to have enabled17:55
Guest40767damn it didn't work17:55
koegshm, ok, i see the point, you want compression to be enabled during installation?17:56
Luke___David-A: thanks, do you mean that I could set some reasonable "mount default options" as part of fs configuration (I don't know how much of them could be set up during mkfs and then picked up as default)17:58
Luke___koegs: yes, exactly17:58
Luke___I've read that it is possibe to force compression later, but I could enable some other mount options as well (i.e. ssd)17:58
koegsLuke___: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6197/trick-installer-to-use-btrfs-root-with-compression17:59
koegsor this: http://kyofel.wordpress.com/2011/05/15/btrfs-in-natty/17:59
shankstaBytesi plugged my desktop into an older monitor and it says "Cannot Display This Video Mode" how can i fix it via the recovery prompt i am running xubuntu?18:02
shankstaBytesi was the guest guy a second ago18:02
Luke___(reading...)18:02
koegsLuke___: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6197/trick-installer-to-use-btrfs-root-with-compression/6372#637218:02
koegsi think this might do the trick18:03
Sysiediting the install script seems easiest, though you may still need to edit fstab later18:04
Luke___koegs: yes, thanks a lot18:04
Luke___I think I can figure something out base on that examples18:04
koegsLuke___: at leat i was able to remount with compress,ssd during installation, tested that in a virtualbox18:06
Luke___so you did it shortly after partitioning was done, installation has begun (some files were copied without i.e. compression) and then you remount and majority of the installation went having the mount options enabled, right?18:08
Luke___koegs: btw. what's your opinion about filesystems for SSD? do you think about btrfs+compression for / and ext4 for /home (more stable, then better protection for data ... assuming that most important data are under /home)? does it make sense?18:09
koegsi just use ext4 with noatime,relatime,discard for ssds18:10
SysiI wonder how compress affects performance on ssd18:10
shankstaBytesi plugged my desktop into an older monitor and it says "Cannot Display This Video Mode" how can i fix it via the recovery prompt i am running xubuntu?18:11
shankstaBytesim looking at my xorg.conf and it is so confusing18:11
Luke___koegs: ok, and what is your opinion? how it works? ssd still alive? ;) ... what about i.e. commit=600 ?18:12
Luke___Sysi: you mean read/write performance? or ssd lifetime (write cycles)?18:13
koegsLuke___: no problem with several pcs/notebooks and different ssds18:13
Luke___koegs: cool ... for curiosity, whats the lifetime of those machines?18:14
Luke___did you resigned from commit=xxx by purpose?18:14
koegsi think the longest one was 2 years with some ocz ssd18:15
koegsbut even an really old 32gb ocz ssd had no problem running for years18:15
Luke___Sysi: if you ment read/write performance I think I can take this kind of performance degradation18:16
Luke___koegs: then seems like my panic is not really required here ;)18:16
Luke___is there any reason why you didn't picked up btrfs for less critical data?18:17
koegsLuke___: i think so, also i assume you always have a backup of your important file :)18:17
koegsLuke___: i never use btrfs, i just tested it for you in a virtualbox18:17
Luke___I have to say that since harddisk grow up to  around +640GB in laptops ... I have no place to make a backup ;)18:19
Luke___but to be more serious I probably should buy some external hdd18:19
Luke___koegs: thanks a lot18:19
Luke___do you have some blog or other place you can be find?18:20
koegsnope, just #ubuntu-de and #xubuntu :)18:20
Luke___dam, I just visit IRC once-twice per year ... and it would be good to know at least a little of each other18:21
Luke___but to be honest ... I don't have blog neither ... nof fb ;)18:22
Luke___nof -> nor18:22
Luke___have to run, thanks again18:22
koegsLuke___: have fun, installation is done, you just have to keep in mind to edit /etc/fstab afterwards :)18:24
uateverhey18:25
mikubuntuon the xubuntu.org website, can anybody tell me how to find version 12.04, or give me a link? (please)18:26
uatevercan someone help with mounting a media hd at startup?18:26
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uateveri used this method https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions18:26
uateverbut its not working18:26
uateverstill not mounted once i restarted18:26
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koegsuatever: which kind of file system?18:27
Unit193mikubuntu: http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/18:27
uateverntfs18:27
koegsand what are your mount options in /etc/fstab?18:27
mikubuntuty, Unit19318:28
uateveri used the uuid method18:28
uateverdescribed in that page18:28
koegsuatever: maybe this is easier for you http://xflinux.blogspot.de/2011/01/mount-ntfs-volumes-automatically-in.html18:29
mikubuntuUnit193: i prefer to download direct rather than through torrent, but i don't see direct download option18:31
koegsmikubuntu: just check the "mirror downloads" for your country18:32
Unit193It's right below it.18:32
mikubuntuok thx guys18:33
uateverkoegs thanks, I'm goint to try now18:35
uateverrestarting brb18:35
nikolamJust to mention , if passing kernel parameter includes "$" it needs "\" before it , to be passed to kernel on boot by GRUB2 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/448413)18:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 448413 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub2 parses kernel parameters with $ as shell variables" [Medium,Fix released]18:37
nikolamIt helped me passign 2 Bad RAM memory ranges to kernel.18:37
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nikolamwith memmap=18:37
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shankstaBytesso anyone know how to autodetect monitor settings so i dont need to manually configure my xorg file?18:38
TheSheepshankstaBytes: it does it by default when there is no xorg.conf18:39
TheSheepshankstaBytes: also, you can try 'xrandr --output=VGA --auto'18:40
uateverkoegs thanks18:42
uateverworked18:42
uatevernow for some reason the icon for sound is gone from my bar :X18:44
psamimis compiz available in xfce desktop?18:45
TheSheeppsamim: you can install and use it in place of the xfce's default window manager18:47
TheSheep!compiz | psamim18:47
ubottupsamim: Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz18:47
psamimthanks ubottu , i will check that18:48
shankstaBytesTheSheep: xrandr --ouput=VGA --auto didn't work18:49
TheSheep!doesn't work18:49
ubottuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.18:49
shankstaBytesand i can change the xorg.conf because it is a Read only18:49
shankstaBytesTheSheep: it did nothing18:49
uatevercan someone tell me how to replace the pulseaudio icon on my panel?18:49
shankstaBytesit did not give the intended result18:49
TheSheepshankstaBytes: well, no errors?18:50
shankstaBytesnope18:50
TheSheepshankstaBytes: you can also try to set the mode explicitly18:50
TheSheepshankstaBytes: it will list all your modes if you run xrandr without parameters18:50
TheSheepshankstaBytes: then you can use --mode=800x600 for example, instead of --auto18:50
shankstaBytesit is outputting options like a man page18:51
shankstaBytesi think it isn't in the correct format18:51
TheSheepxrandr --output=VGA --mode=800x60018:52
shankstaBytesya same thing18:52
shankstaBytesi am doing this in the recovery console if that makes a difference18:52
TheSheepah, replace the - with spaces18:53
TheSheepthe =18:53
TheSheepsorry18:53
TheSheepxrandr --output VGA --mode 800x60018:53
shankstaBytesahh there we go but now it says "Can18:54
shankstaBytes"Can't Open display"18:54
TheSheepshankstaBytes: ok, then try:   DISPLAY=:0.0 xrandr --output VGA --mode 800x60018:54
TheSheepprovided that X is running18:55
shankstaBytessame thing18:56
shankstaBytesi tried to start x but it wouldn't start18:58
shankstaBytesmaybe this cant be done from the recovery console?19:00
TheSheepit's how you change your display settings with X already running19:00
shankstaBytesTheSheep: alright buddy i got it working19:07
shankstaBytesTheSheep: i plugged in a different monitor and said screw that one haha19:07
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shankstaBytesthank you19:08
TheSheep...19:08
TheSheepwhatever works for you, I guess19:08
shankstaBytesit was a super old display19:09
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mikubuntuarrrrrrggggghhh .... trying to erase a usb stick with startup disk creator, and it won't erase --- says 'there is not enough space for this image'19:36
Sysiif you really want to erase it (and it's actually big enough) use gparted, create new partition table19:37
mikubuntuok, sysi, will try that19:38
mikubuntusysi, can't find gparted, can you tell me the command to install w term?19:39
Sysisudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gparted19:40
mikubuntuty Sysi19:40
mikubuntuSysi, ok, i have gparted open, i think i don't know how to proceed :(19:47
Sysiselect device, unmount, and somewhere in menu is "create new partition table"19:47
Sysibe sure to select the right device19:48
zyngawowHow can I run a bash script on startup?19:49
mikubuntuSysi, omg i think i just deleted my OS19:49
mikubuntuSysi -- just kidding19:49
mikubuntuk, lemme try disk creator again19:50
David-Azyngawow: the system run a script when system has booted, or you run a script when you logged in?19:50
zyngawowDavid-A: when the user logs in, so I can use the ~ operand19:51
Sysizyngawow: settings -> sessions and startup -Z autostart19:51
Sysis/-Z/->19:51
zyngawowSysi: So... Settings -> Sessions and Startup > Autostart and set the script there?19:52
Sysiyup19:52
Sysithere's a list and a plus-button19:53
Sysido I need to have ports opened in firewall if I run 2 apps on localhost that would "normally" require them being open20:00
TheSheepSysi: if you didn't close off anything, then no20:01
TheSheepSysi: actually, I don't think any sane configuration would have loopback firewalled20:02
SysiTheSheep: okay, then what about other users, I guess I can't use port that's used for something external?20:03
TheSheepSysi: localhost is only available internally20:04
TheSheepSysi: but yeah, your application will refuse to start if another application is running on the port it tries to open20:05
TheSheepSysi: that's why they usually use named sockets for this kind of stuff20:05
Sysihmm, I may need to look into that20:06
itz__is it worth upgrading to 13.04? I'm unconvinced20:17
TheSheepnobody forces you20:18
TheSheepI always say, if there is no new feature that you need, why upgrade?20:18
Sysi(except when release goes EOL)20:19
TheSheepwell, I consider 'being supported' an important feature :)20:20
Sysiyeah :D20:20
mikubuntuOMG. tried googling for the bios setup for compaq hp8000 and cannot find -- tried using del key and all the f's -- anybody familiar with this machine?20:26
TheSheepmikubuntu: I know that some compaqs had their setup program on a special disquette20:28
TheSheepmikubuntu: you would basically boot them from it20:28
mikubuntuthesheep, no i saw the guy enter bios at the garagesale i bought it at, and i asked him what key but we got sidetrackd in conversation -- so i know its a key20:29
TheSheepcan be anything, really, esc, shift, ctrl20:30
TheSheepor a combination20:30
TheSheepI guess it's more googling for you, sorry20:30
mikubuntuty TheSheep, i guess so20:31
mikubuntuTheSheep, got in w f10 which i tried and tried before -- all of a sudden it went in. boot order doesnt display a usb option even tho it has two usb ports, i guess that means i need to get a cd?20:36
Sysiolder machines often don't boot from usb even if they have ports20:38
mikubuntuok, can't believe i don't have any blank cds ... arrrrgh20:38
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amerigenaI was going to install Google Earth using dpkg -i and then decided not to. Exited terminal. Now the update manager is constantly informing me that I have broken packages.22:14
amerigenaTried using apt-get purge. Fixed the problem for about ten minutes.22:14
amerigenaDo not want to install Google Earth. No desire to.22:22
Unit193amerigena: sudo apt-get install -f  pull up anything?22:42
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mikubuntucan't figure out why this dell latitude 600 keeps getting hung up on setup for installation -- keep getting a page about the device in the system modular bay (the cd/dvd driver??) cannot be identified. it may not be completely inserted or may have some other problem.23:32
mikubuntuand i guess it wont boot from the usb either -- how can i workaround no usb installer option and no cd installer option?23:35
David-Amikubuntu: can you move its harddisk to another computer, install it there, and then move back harddisk into the laptop?23:50
mikubuntuDavid-A: i'm not so handy. are cd drives interchangeable between manufacturers? i got past that screen by taking the cd drive completely out -- i wonder if i can put another drive in there and see if it recognises it.23:52
amerigenaapt-get install -f installs Google Earth23:54
amerigenawhat I want to do is get rid of the (cached?) apt-get info that thinks that I still want to install it.23:55
amerigenaI'm not interested in satisfying Google Earth's dependencies : I just want to be rid of it.23:55

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