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| ovnicraft_ | hello i want to debug bzr, so i get this error https://gist.github.com/ovnicraft/5717722, i read about it and it was caused by delete a file and i want to debug to identify what file_id | 15:06 |
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| ovnicraft_ | i activate BZR_PDB | 15:06 |
| ovnicraft_ | i get postmortem but i don know what var use | 15:06 |
| ovnicraft_ | i found this https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/1179527 | 15:09 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1179527 in Bazaar "bzr: ERROR: No final name for trans_id 'new-26'" [Undecided,New] | 15:09 |
| ovnicraft_ | there are many old bugs | 15:09 |
| ovnicraft_ | and this http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.bazaar-ng.general/74886 | 15:10 |
| ovnicraft_ | looks like unversioned files cause the problem | 15:10 |
| ovnicraft_ | i this post http://old.nabble.com/Error-during-merge%3A-No-final-name-for-trans_id-'new-70'-td34444552.html he use pdb to identify trans_id refer | 15:11 |
| ovnicraft_ | but dont describe how to use pdb in bzr postmortem | 15:11 |
| jelmer | ovnicraft_: set BZR_PDB=1 in the environment | 15:13 |
| jelmer | and you'll be dropped into pdb when an error occurs | 15:13 |
| ovnicraft_ | jelmer: yes i got pdb | 15:13 |
| ovnicraft_ | jelmer: so i want to know how to identify trans_id | 15:13 |
| ovnicraft_ | i dont know bzr code | 15:13 |
| ovnicraft_ | jelmer: i am here https://gist.github.com/ovnicraft/5722285 | 15:14 |
| jelmer | ah, that's a more complex question - I don't have time to help with that atm unfortunately | 15:14 |
| ovnicraft_ | so first Q: i am in right channel ? | 15:15 |
| jelmer | yes | 15:15 |
| ovnicraft_ | jelmer: there is any dirty solution ? | 15:18 |
| mgz | ovnicraft_: broadly speaking, you want to use 'u' and 'l' till you find something pathy | 15:20 |
| mgz | I'm not sure if this is the shortest path (ho ho) to finding out what the issue with your tree state though | 15:21 |
| mgz | running a diff between the branches prior to merge (if that's what's failing? you weren't explict) may be easier | 15:23 |
| ovnicraft_ | mgz: i am running the diff now | 15:32 |
| barry | hey folks, perhaps mgz, jam, or abentley: have any of you seen crashes in bzr on saucy, e.g. doing `bzr info`? i think the svn plugin may be broken as it's trying to import CommittedQueue from subvertpy.wc | 15:37 |
| jelmer | barry: yes, there is a bug | 15:37 |
| jelmer | barry: bzr-svn has been removed from saucy | 15:37 |
| jelmer | pad.lv/1187840 | 15:38 |
| barry | jelmer: thanks, i shall purge it from my existence then :) | 15:38 |
| barry | jelmer: got it, thanks | 15:39 |
| mgz | hm, how hard is that sru with the dep to do I wonder... | 15:39 |
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| thumper | morning | 21:10 |
| jelmer | hey thumper, how's life in juju land? | 21:16 |
| thumper | hi jelmer | 21:17 |
| thumper | interesting | 21:17 |
| jelmer | mgz: it should be a one line change | 21:17 |
| thumper | just like python, there is the "go way" of doing things | 21:17 |
| thumper | which often rubs with me ATM | 21:17 |
| jelmer | thumper: ah, you're working on Go juju ? is that version 2.0? | 21:18 |
| thumper | jelmer: well, 1.11.x right now, but yes, heading to 2.0 | 21:19 |
| thumper | I wanted to get back into a dev role, and also learn go | 21:19 |
| thumper | I hadn't learnt a new language in a while | 21:19 |
| jelmer | thumper: what do you think of go, any improvement over C++? | 21:21 |
| thumper | jelmer: well, that depends... | 21:21 |
| thumper | C++ is horribly complicated, but powerful in the right hands | 21:22 |
| thumper | Go is much simpler, but is missing a lot of what I'm used to | 21:22 |
| thumper | like generics | 21:22 |
| thumper | I'd say 90% of C++ devs write bad code | 21:22 |
| thumper | just due to language complexity | 21:22 |
| thumper | go reduces that number somewhat | 21:22 |
| thumper | I've not done any real benchmark tests | 21:23 |
| thumper | but go does provide some nice library stuff that C++ is missing | 21:23 |
| thumper | around network and general process control | 21:23 |
| thumper | I guess it depends a lot on what you are writing :) | 21:23 |
| jelmer | yeah, the complexity in C++ is my main gripe with it | 21:26 |
| jelmer | I'm not sure what to think of go yet. The exception handling/return value stuff seems kind of arbitrary but some of the other features, like - as you mention - the libraries and goroutines are really nice | 21:27 |
| * thumper nods | 21:32 | |
| thumper | I love the power of C++ | 21:32 |
| thumper | but it is too easy for people to get things wrong | 21:32 |
| thumper | I have heard that D is better | 21:32 |
| thumper | but never used it | 21:32 |
| LeoNerd | goros are just CSP. "yaaay". That's been around since like, 1970 | 21:43 |
| LeoNerd | mvreturn is cute, but eh.. Perl and most Lisps have those | 21:43 |
| LeoNerd | Python too come to think of it | 21:44 |
| LeoNerd | Sortof ish | 21:44 |
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