| jbicha | darkxst: landscape-client-ui has a settings panel that needs to be in the whitelist | 00:12 |
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| darkxst | jbicha, ok, are there any others | 00:17 |
| jbicha | ubuntuone-installer and software-properties-gtk | 00:23 |
| darkxst | updated | 01:31 |
| bjsnider | sounds like there's a lot of time being spent trying to get gnome and unity to play nice | 01:46 |
| jbicha | darkxst: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/account-plugins/0.11daily13.06.06-0ubuntu1 :) | 02:02 |
| darkxst | jbicha, datetime issue is due to conflicting symbols | 02:22 |
| darkxst | need to rename all public functions in libtimezonemap | 02:26 |
| jbicha | could you file a bug for that? | 02:33 |
| darkxst | jbicha, yes will do | 02:34 |
| jbicha | I wonder why I see Backup when I run XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Unity gnome-control-center but not in GNOME | 02:37 |
| darkxst | jbicha, OnlyShowIn setting? | 02:38 |
| jbicha | I believe it is OnlyShowIn=GNOME;Unity: | 02:40 |
| darkxst | jbicha, its working here | 02:40 |
| darkxst | bug 1187981 | 02:51 |
| ubot5 | bug 1187981 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "symbol conflicts in libtimezonemap1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1187981 | 02:51 |
| kesavan | unable to boot after checking battery status | 04:36 |
| kesavan | the gdm fails to get me into the Xserver | 04:40 |
| ricotz | darkxst, hi :), why wasnt the splitted gdm package used for saucy? if this was rejected then saucy package could be copied to staging? | 08:28 |
| erle- | somehow the gnome3 ppa uninstalled half of my ubuntu | 09:16 |
| erle- | is that a known issue? | 09:16 |
| phako | and on top of that installing half a KE | 09:20 |
| phako | KDE | 09:20 |
| erle- | phako, you joking or did that happen? | 09:21 |
| erle- | in fact gnome ppa did a lot of funny stuff with java and qt | 09:21 |
| erle- | dunno how | 09:21 |
| phako | http://fpaste.org/16907/51052513/ | 09:22 |
| erle- | i had that and started it ... | 09:22 |
| erle- | i came home from a longer journey | 09:22 |
| erle- | so i was expecting lots of updates | 09:23 |
| erle- | lol | 09:23 |
| darkxst | ricotz, it should have been used for saucy | 09:25 |
| meet | should I upgrade my gnome 3.6 to 3.8? Ubuntu-gnome 13.04. I have seen the additions and really interested. But what all disadvantages may be there? | 12:24 |
| mgedmin | I haven't noticed any | 12:25 |
| mgedmin | I'm using the gnome 3 ppa but not the staging ppa | 12:25 |
| mgedmin | (the staging ppa is where all the disadvantages live; and no, I don't have a list) | 12:26 |
| meet | mgedmin: last time I tried my ubuntu software center broke. It crashed immediately. not a big deal. But so i was wondering what all are discrepancies are there. | 12:28 |
| mgedmin | let me try | 12:28 |
| mgedmin | yup, crashes on startup | 12:29 |
| mgedmin | lovely | 12:29 |
| jbicha | meet: the software center issue is bug 1163886 and hasn't been fixed yet | 12:29 |
| ubot5 | bug 1163886 in software-center (Ubuntu) "software-center crashed with signal 5 with the GNOME3 PPA on 13.04" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1163886 | 12:29 |
| Forage | What is the purpose of the mcp-account-manager-goa package? | 12:30 |
| Forage | Should it be installed alongside mcp-account-manager-uoa even when it is not by default on Ubuntu? | 12:30 |
| meet | So any other known major issues? | 12:40 |
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| jbicha_ | ricotz: do you have any insight into what's breaking for bug 1187938? | 15:17 |
| ubot5 | bug 1187938 in Ubuntu GNOME "gnome3 ppa dependencies broken" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1187938 | 15:17 |
| jbicha_ | I can't reproduce in my raring chroot...maybe it only affects upgrades? | 15:18 |
| min|dvir1us | Hey, is it just me or is the GNOME3 PPA broken? | 15:21 |
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| ronj | min|dvir1us, yes, see https://launchpad.net/bugs/1187938 and hold your up the upgrade till it's fixed | 15:27 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1187938 in Ubuntu GNOME "gnome3 ppa dependencies broken" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 15:27 |
| ricotz | jbicha, hi, i can't reproduce this, luckily i have an older gnome3-ppa-only raring vm where apt resolves the harfbuzz/pango/webkit transition fine | 15:31 |
| jbicha | ricotz: uh, so do we recommend people ppa-purge then add the ppa again? | 15:31 |
| ricotz | i am curious what the partial upgrade looks like and people should perfom an apt-get upgrade first | 15:32 |
| jbicha | ronj: could you try an apt-get upgrade? | 15:32 |
| ronj | jbicha ricotz, same problem, log: http://pastebin.com/66TJSjiE | 15:37 |
| ronj | note I didn't ppa-purge before, and ran dist-upgrade (not upgrade) | 15:37 |
| jbicha | what about just an apt-get upgrade? | 15:38 |
| ronj | trying | 15:38 |
| ronj | jbicha, looks good indeed, http://pastebin.com/PdKVkDrJ | 15:38 |
| ronj | how can that be? isn't dist-upgrade supposed to be smarter than upgrade? | 15:39 |
| ricotz | ronj, i see you have a lot of external repos enabled which can be a problem | 15:39 |
| ricotz | ronj, it just holds back some things | 15:39 |
| ricotz | ronj, do an upgrade and try dist-upgrade after that | 15:39 |
| ronj | k | 15:39 |
| ronj | ricotz jbicha, the upgrade went well, but trying dist-upgrade after I'm still being asked to remove half my system: http://pastebin.com/C74B5RKv | 15:44 |
| ricotz | ronj, what is the output of "apt-cache rdepends libharfbuzz0" | 15:45 |
| ronj | ricotz, http://pastebin.com/b9gvekt8 | 15:45 |
| ricotz | ronj, can't say why this is happening for you | 15:57 |
| ronj | ricotz, maybe I could start ask people on the LP bug some common points? maybe we could start listing our PPAs? | 15:58 |
| ronj | what else? | 15:58 |
| ricotz | ronj, which other repos are you using? | 15:58 |
| jbicha | ronj: do you get any different output if you try something like 'apt-get install libpango-1.0-0' | 15:59 |
| ronj | Official "Partners", Official "Independent"/Extras, Steam, Dropbox, Chrome, Shutter, WebUpd8/Java, TLP | 15:59 |
| ricotz | ronj, please list the urls | 16:00 |
| ronj | jbicha, no, apt-get install libpango-1.0-0 ask for the same deletions | 16:00 |
| ricotz | ronj, i am suspecting the chrome repo | 16:00 |
| ronj | ricotz, Official "Partners": http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu:raring:partner, Official "Independent"/Extras: http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu:raring:main, Steam: http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/:precise:steam, Dropbox: http://linux.dropbox.com/ubuntu:precise:main, Chrome: http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/:stable:main, WebUpd8/Java: http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu:raring:main, TLP: http://ppa.launchpad.net/linrunner/tlp/ubuntu:r | 16:04 |
| ronj | aring:main | 16:04 |
| ronj | ppa-purging the chrome repo | 16:08 |
| bjsnider | hm, chrome only offers the browser here as far as packages go | 16:09 |
| ricotz | ronj, this is just an idea though | 16:09 |
| bjsnider | does have a long list of dependencies | 16:10 |
| ronj | well maybe, anyway, I'm not even able to ppa-purge it, even when using the -d -p -s options ( sudo ppa-purge -p main -d stable -s dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb ), it tells me "Warning: Required ppa-name argument was not specified" | 16:19 |
| jbicha | ronj: just uninstall your chrome package(s) | 16:20 |
| ricotz | ronj, this is not a ppa, you added it manually | 16:20 |
| ricotz | but i guess this chrome repo isnt the problem | 16:21 |
| ronj | jbicha, this I did (I even purged), same result. ricotz, more or less, that's something the Chrome .deb does automatically when installing | 16:21 |
| ricotz | ronj, are you familiar with aptitude? | 16:22 |
| ronj | ricotz, no I'm more used to synaptic, but I can test stuff in aptitude if you guide me | 16:23 |
| ricotz | ronj, using synaptic result in similar problems? | 16:23 |
| ronj | ricotz, yeah if I "reload" then "mark all upgrades", it takes the exact same decision as apt-get: tons of packages "To be removed", six libpango/libpangocairo/libjavascriptcoregtk to be upgraded | 16:25 |
| ricotz | ronj, do you have pinned packages or repos with higher priority? | 16:27 |
| ronj | ricotz, I don't know what these two things are, can you tell me where to look? | 16:28 |
| ricotz | ronj, are there files in /etc/apt/preferences.d/ ? | 16:28 |
| min|dvir1us | ronj: thanks. | 16:28 |
| ronj | /etc/apt/preferences.d/ is empty | 16:28 |
| min|dvir1us | Why was a broken dependency tree released in the first place? Are there not safeguards against that? | 16:29 |
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| ricotz | ronj, ok | 16:30 |
| ronj | min|dvir|us-work, there are, but tests from the team cannot cover all ppa/system combinations everywhere | 16:30 |
| min|dvir|us-work | I see. | 16:31 |
| min|dvir|us-work | Is there any ETA? | 16:31 |
| ricotz | min|dvir|us-work, nothing broken is broken, there was a transition | 16:31 |
| ricotz | min|dvir|us-work, do you use other repos besides the gnome3 ppa? | 16:31 |
| min|dvir|us-work | Some, but none that should conflict. | 16:31 |
| min|dvir|us-work | Perhaps xorg-edgers? | 16:31 |
| ronj | probably no, I don't have that one | 16:32 |
| ronj | can you list all of them with their url? | 16:32 |
| ronj | ricotz, maybe that's already something clear for you, but I repeat it just in case: I've been in the boat five days ago, but it was solved, and it just reappeared yesterday. did something change on the GNOME3 PPA yesterday? | 16:33 |
| jbicha | yes we pushed an updated webkit and pango libraries 2 days ago | 16:34 |
| min|dvir|us-work | ronj: https://gist.github.com/dan-transparensee/e30e87136c7523a0c462 | 16:34 |
| ricotz | ronj, what jbicha said ^ | 16:34 |
| ronj | ok | 16:35 |
| ronj | min|dvir|us-work, our only common points are Dropbox & Steam | 16:35 |
| ronj | which provide 1 or 2 packages each :-/ | 16:35 |
| min|dvir|us-work | Perhaps I am ignorant to all the facts but I believe a PPA conflict is not at fault. | 16:36 |
| ricotz | ronj, min|dvir|us-work, at least dropbox provides a raring pocket which you should use instead of the precise one | 16:36 |
| min|dvir|us-work | ricotz: oh, sweet. :) | 16:37 |
| jbicha | ronj: so you could try ppa-purging the gnome3 ppa and re-adding it | 16:38 |
| ronj | ok trying, if that's our last option | 16:40 |
| ronj | jbicha, The following packages have unmet dependencies: libharfbuzz-dev : Depends: libharfbuzz0 (= 0.9.13-1) but 0.9.17-4~raring1 is installed. The following actions will resolve these dependencies: Remove the following packages: 1) libgtk-3-dev 2) libgtk2.0-dev 3) libharfbuzz-dev 4) libpango1.0-dev | 16:42 |
| ronj | pick my poison | 16:42 |
| ronj | 3? | 16:43 |
| jbicha | ronj: sure, you don't need those -dev packages, do you? anyway you can reinstall them afterwards | 16:43 |
| jbicha | just enter y | 16:43 |
| ronj | well I need 1 & 2 yeah, but will reinstall later | 16:43 |
| ronj | jbicha, that did not exactly go well: http://pastebin.com/kNNpyPM8 | 16:50 |
| jbicha | it shouldn't break that badly | 16:54 |
| jbicha | sudo apt-get -f install | 16:54 |
| ronj | jbicha, even if http://pastebin.com/EfDU8FKp ? | 16:59 |
| jbicha | ronj: personally I would hit 'y' and then install ubuntu-gnome-desktop and unity and unity-tweak-tool (and whatever else) again afterwards | 17:02 |
| ronj | yup, just wanted to be sure | 17:03 |
| ronj | jbicha, ppa purged, answering y to everything, but now I cannot install ubuntu-gnome-desktop: http://pastebin.com/dU5HPAYa | 17:06 |
| jbicha | ok, pick one of those dependencies and try to install it (like gedit) | 17:07 |
| ronj | jbicha, The following packages have unmet dependencies: gedit : Depends: gedit-common (< 3.7) but 3.8.2-0ubuntu1~raring2 is to be installed | 17:11 |
| ronj | oÔ , seems ppa-purge didn't do its job? | 17:11 |
| jbicha | run sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 then ppa-purge it again I guess | 17:13 |
| ronj | jbicha ricotz, I just successfully ppa-purged, was able to install ubuntu-gnome-desktop and am back to 3.6, but when I re-add the PPA and dist-upgrade, the problem is still present | 17:26 |
| jbicha | ronj: I'm thinking ricotz' theory about some other PPA interfering is sounding more likely | 17:32 |
| ronj | jbicha, I had a look at the pool folders of the few PPAs I'm using and don't see much... | 17:34 |
| ronj | also, min|dvir|us-work had the same problem, and we only shared two quite self-contained PPAs: Dropbox, and Steam | 17:35 |
| jbicha | what's the dist-upgrade look like this time? | 17:42 |
| ronj | jbicha, http://pastebin.com/ZVXNk5La | 17:48 |
| ronj | jbicha, note I was able to upgrade before that, which ran and upgraded stuff, here's the output of upgrade now: http://pastebin.com/qYz73GQJ | 17:52 |
| ronj | hmmm just got a pb. report from a friend that I converted to Ubuntu GNOME | 17:54 |
| jbicha | I can't figure out what the problem is either and we can't fix a problem that we can't identify :( | 18:01 |
| jbicha | maybe see if you can reproduce it from a new 13.04 install | 18:01 |
| bjsnider | ronj, what is the result if you try apt-get upgrade? | 18:03 |
| ronj | bjsnider, <ronj> jbicha, note I was able to upgrade before that, which ran and upgraded stuff, here's the output of upgrade now: http://pastebin.com/qYz73GQJ | 18:03 |
| ricotz | jbicha, using a live-cd session of raring, adding gnome3-ppa and upgrade works as expected | 18:04 |
| ricotz | ah sorry, i didnt look as expected :\ | 18:06 |
| ronj | <jbicha> maybe see if you can reproduce it from a new 13.04 install >> sorry, I don't want to mess any more with my main machine, and my 2nd one is freezed to test another Ubuntu bug | 18:08 |
| bjsnider | ronj, try apt-get install on each of those 74 packages one by one | 18:09 |
| bjsnider | maybe it will only push back on one of them | 18:09 |
| bjsnider | the two libpango packages are the ones kept back on the dist-upgrade though, so maybe do them first | 18:10 |
| ronj | bjsnider ricotz jbicha, was able to sudo apt-get install libpango1.0-0, which just asked to remove a few :i386 things | 18:16 |
| ronj | now if I try to dist-upgrade, the only remaining thing that apt-get want me to remove is libmutter0a | 18:16 |
| ronj | could our problem be due to these i386 packages? | 18:17 |
| jbicha | and libmutter0a is ok to remove :) | 18:17 |
| ronj | maybe the ones installed by steam? | 18:17 |
| bjsnider | well what the hell is going on with that pango package | 18:17 |
| bjsnider | where did it come from | 18:17 |
| ronj | the three of us concerned here (my friend, me, and min|dvir|us-work) did use Steam | 18:18 |
| ronj | and I think it installs a crapload of i386 stuff | 18:18 |
| ronj | the other package I use that does that AFAIK is Skype | 18:19 |
| ronj | ok, dist-upgrade finished cleanly, back to a sane state | 18:22 |
| ronj | Thanks a lot! Posting what I did on bug 1187938 | 18:23 |
| ubot5 | bug 1187938 in Ubuntu GNOME "gnome3 ppa dependencies broken" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1187938 | 18:23 |
| ronj | I'm still available for more tests, feel free to ping me | 18:23 |
| bjsnider | have you still got the info on which i386 libs were forced out? | 18:24 |
| ronj | bjsnider, yes: http://pastebin.com/jp7cpmwT , lines 21 & 22 | 18:27 |
| bjsnider | look how it orphans all of those i396 packages | 18:28 |
| bjsnider | or i386 | 18:28 |
| jbicha | ronj: do you use teamviewer? | 18:28 |
| ronj | bjsnider, I used it once yes | 18:29 |
| ronj | may be the culprit too... | 18:29 |
| ronj | asking my friend | 18:29 |
| jbicha | is teamviewer installable? | 18:29 |
| ronj | jbicha, yes: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx , however note my friend with the same problem did not have it | 18:33 |
| bjsnider | there's also libharfbuzz0 vs libharfbuzz0a | 18:34 |
| bjsnider | ronj, what happens if you try to install libharfbuzz0 ? | 18:36 |
| ronj | I posted a summary of what I did here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1187938/comments/4 | 18:37 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1187938 in Ubuntu GNOME "gnome3 ppa dependencies broken" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 18:37 |
| ronj | bjsnider, hell happens: http://pastebin.com/ghRcT4aL | 18:38 |
| bjsnider | libharfbuzz0 and libharfbuzz0a must be packaged so they're mutually exclusive | 18:39 |
| bjsnider | where do they originate? | 18:39 |
| ricotz | bjsnider, libharfbuzz0 is deprecated and libharfbuzz0a the new one | 18:40 |
| bjsnider | why would he still have the deprecated one? | 18:40 |
| bjsnider | anyway, i guess that's the issue | 18:40 |
| jbicha | bjsnider: yes but that shouldn't be a problem; they're in the harfbuzz package | 18:40 |
| ricotz | the pango and harfbuzz changes originate from debian and saucy | 18:40 |
| ronj | <bjsnider> why would he still have the deprecated one? >> I don't have libharfbuzz0 installed | 18:41 |
| bjsnider | ronj, you did though | 18:43 |
| ronj | oh ok | 18:43 |
| ronj | sry | 18:43 |
| bjsnider | http://pastebin.com/jp7cpmwT | 18:43 |
| bjsnider | it's one of the ones going to be removed and the new one replaces it | 18:43 |
| bjsnider | and then when you tried to install the old one again it threatened to rip your guts out | 18:44 |
| ronj | ricotz jbicha bjsnider, my friend who was in the same boat just fixed his machine; exact same steps as me: purge, re-add ubuntu-gnome-desktop, re-add ppa, update (updating ~30 packages), install libpango (removing ~18 i386 packages), dist-upgrade (removing libmutter0a and updating the rest of the packages) | 19:57 |
| ronj | I meant: ...upgrade (updating ~30 packages)... | 20:00 |
| ronj | not update | 20:00 |
| jbicha | the purge shouldn't be necessary, you just need to force install libpango-1.0-0 | 20:02 |
| ronj | ok thx, added the info to the bug | 21:04 |
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