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pleia2#startmeeting17:00
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Jun  6 17:00:30 2013 UTC.  The chair is pleia2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.17:00
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pleia2Hi everyone :) welcome to the Community Council meeting17:00
pleia2#chairs czajkowski YokoZar beuno17:01
pleia2#chair czajkowski YokoZar beuno17:01
meetingologyCurrent chairs: YokoZar beuno czajkowski pleia217:01
czajkowskialoha \o/17:01
YokoZarGreetings17:01
pleia2(now not to get my meeting channels mixed up)17:01
* cprofitt waives hello17:01
pleia2our plan today is to meet with some representatives of the Lubuntu project and the Edubuntu council17:01
pleia2#chair cprofitt17:02
meetingologyCurrent chairs: YokoZar beuno cprofitt czajkowski pleia217:02
pleia2do we have anyone from either team here with us to get started?17:02
* phillw waves :)17:02
YokoZarHello phillw17:02
cprofitthello phillw17:02
phillwpleia2: I'm the lubuntu person :)17:02
pleia2phillw: great, we'll start with you then!17:02
pleia2#topic Lubuntu check-in17:02
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lubuntu check-in
pleia2this is a pretty casual check-in, how the team is doing, any challenges, any ways we can help17:03
phillwhi, I'm the Team Lead foe lubuntu quality / testing team.17:03
czajkowskiphillw: hey there17:03
czajkowskithanks for coming17:03
YokoZarHow big is the Lubuntu team would you say, very roughly17:03
phillwSo far, things are going well, we're just deciding on which of the alphas to test (possibly drop a2)17:03
* pleia2 nods17:04
phillwwe have approx 10 active testers and 4 devs, 6 people for docs / wiki, a comms team and a small artwork team17:05
pleia2that's great17:05
czajkowskiphillw: impressively orgnised17:05
phillwthat's down to the various Team Leads, they do outstanding work17:06
czajkowskiphillw: has it been easy to get volunteers to lead your teams?17:06
phillwI'm not familiar with the translators as they tend to work directly on lxde things and with ubuntu-translators.17:06
phillwoh, and an irc-ops team!17:07
phillwit was not too easy at 1st, it was sort of who squealed the least when approached :P17:07
pleia2hehe17:07
cprofittphillw: is there any area that you think the CC could help youre team?17:07
phillwNothing springs to mind, the guys & gals are pretty good at sorting out things. We're a mix of democratic and technocratic, as I think all teams are.17:09
czajkowskiphillw: have ye had any issues to deal with ?17:09
pleia2that's always good to hear :)17:10
YokoZarAre we doing the "distribution as a whole" thing right in general, or are there systematic things we do that sort of break things for Lubuntu that you have to fix?17:10
phillwnot really, people on the teams understand eachother and don't mind explaining things to other teams17:10
czajkowskiphillw: that is great to hear17:10
phillwYokoZar: there was the un annnounced (to us) change in the release that drives the artwork and icons a couple of releases ago. But, as the teams have their leaders who keep in touch with those relevant parts we have not had any 'surprises' last two cycles :)17:12
pleia2sounds like you guys are doing great the, thanks for joining us phillw :)17:13
pleia2s/the/then17:13
cprofittthanks phillw17:13
phillw13.10 is actually our stable beta for our 1st LTS, it should be released as full release, but we reserve the right to call it stable beta.17:13
phillwyou're very welcome!17:13
czajkowskiphillw: thank you for the updates today17:14
pleia2I think we meet at a bad timezone for the edubuntu folks, and they've been pretty focused on LTS lately as far as I can tell, we can follow up at another meeting or over email17:14
czajkowskiphillw: if you ever need to contact the CC please feel free to do so17:14
phillwthanks17:14
pleia2#topic AOB17:15
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB
pleia2anyone else have anything to bring up?17:15
cprofittI was wondering if anyone had thried Discourse yet?17:15
cprofitttried rather?17:16
czajkowskiI need some free time to try new things :)17:16
pleia2yep (and it runs on hpcloud!)17:16
pleia2but I don't really do those web things17:16
czajkowskiI just wonder is another place to put information out there going to dilute the information further17:16
cprofittczajkowski: that I think is a concern.17:17
pleia2I think it's going to be a tough sell to get developers who are comfortable on mailing lists to use it17:17
czajkowskipleia2: +117:17
cprofittI was thinking we may want to discuss that in an open public session; as part of a larger Ubuntu Community communications17:17
YokoZarI don't like discourse17:17
czajkowskime personally nothing will ever replace mailing lists and irc. but who knows.17:17
YokoZarI don't think it properly replaces forums17:17
YokoZarcause of all the gamificationy nonsense17:18
YokoZarat least in terms of forming personal relationships17:18
cprofittHaving G+, Facebook, Forums, Discourse, Ask Ubuntu, Mailing Lists and IRC is an overload of options17:18
czajkowskiand having to spend more time on other places following the information to make sure it's correct is just another place to watch17:19
pleia2forums have almost 2 million members (with over 13k online now), I think ever moving that will be impossible17:19
cprofittI am sure I forgot identi.ca, Twitter and others too17:19
YokoZarI don't mean to be a curmudgeon or whatever but I actually use "social" web forums and just about everything the discourse folk wanted to do was deliberately not done for important reasons on that medium.17:19
cprofitt+1 czajkowski17:19
pleia2it's by far our biggest support outlet, and seems to be effective for those who use it :)17:19
YokoZarAlthough I'll note that we do some of the "don't do this" stuff on the Ubuntu forums, like enable postcounts17:19
czajkowskipleia2: indeed17:20
cprofittpleia2: I agree it works very well for a large group of people17:20
czajkowskiand many people do and will continute to use forums. But equally many will use IRC or Ask Ubuntu over another option17:20
cprofittwhile I am open to trying new things, I think we need to define the problem17:20
czajkowskibut not sure introducingt another "offical" avenue is a good thing imo17:20
cprofittright now it seems like a solution seeking a problem to solve17:20
YokoZarperhaps "monitoring all sources" is not a job meant for us to do ;)17:20
czajkowskicprofitt: or just cause some new tool is out there we should jump on it and try it17:21
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cprofittYokoZar: I agree.17:21
czajkowskiYokoZar: I agree but it does fall down to someone to look after and follow up on items17:21
pleia2I think it's healthy for people to "just do it" as jcastro has, so I don't mind that it exists17:21
czajkowskiYokoZar: do we need another council to look after another tool :)17:21
cprofittI do worry about the increasing difficulty of communication between elements of our community though17:22
czajkowskiSuch as ?17:22
cprofitt+1 pleia217:22
pleia2at least it's open source thsi time :)17:22
cprofittczajkowski: the difficulty I am speaking of is the large number of potential places information is placed...17:22
czajkowskicprofitt: ah yes I agree there.17:23
cprofittthough Ubuntu News helps to collect that in a nice package17:23
YokoZarPersonally I think people will discuss Ubuntu wherever they want, and the more we're discussed in places people want to talk the more people will step up there17:25
cprofittI would like to invite some community feedback on the issue of communication via different mediums... to find out if others in the community feel it is an issue that we should look at or not.17:25
cprofittI tend to agree with that YokoZar17:26
pleia2sounds good17:26
pleia2anyone else have anything before we wrap-up?17:26
czajkowskinope thanks pleia217:26
cprofittyes, thanks pleia217:27
pleia2ok, thanks everyone :)17:27
pleia2#endmeeting17:27
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=== Topic unset by of1967 on #ubuntu-meeting
of1967HI22:13
tcarrondoof1967, viva Orlando!22:13
of1967ah22:14
of1967ok22:14
of1967olá22:14
of1967estava à procura de carrondo22:14
tcarrondothe meeting should be starting any time..22:15
tcarrondoAndChat|96921, Mr Coxo?22:22
AndChat|96921It's me bb22:22
AndChat|96921Coxo aqui22:23
AndChat|96921Sim?22:24
tcarrondoAndChat|96921, I'm waiting for the meeting to start22:24
AndChat|96921So am I22:25
AndChat|96921Better?22:27
AndChat|96921Can't change the nick22:27
AndChat|96921But I'22:28
AndChat|96921I'm proud of you22:28
tcarrondohehe22:28
AndChat|9692110 years since fmh22:29
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tcarrondopleia2, anything's wrong with today's meeting?22:32
pleia2the topic got out of sync, I was just fixing it (no meeting is happening at the moment)22:32
tcarrondobut is it going to start?22:33
pleia2what meeting are you looking for?22:33
pleia2ah, membership board?22:33
tcarrondoyep :)22:34
pleia2cjohnston: membership board meeting happening today?22:34
tcarrondocjohnston's not here :(22:38
AndChat|96921Evil power22:38
tcarrondohi bkerensa !22:40
bkerensatcarrondo: We don't have a quorom could you please come back at our next meeting?22:40
tcarrondobkerensa: I'm not sure but I can try22:42
bkerensatcarrondo: My apologies that today did not work out but we would definitely like to hear your application at the next meeting that is convenient for you22:42
AndChat|96921So22:45
AndChat|96921.22:45
of1967no meeting?22:46
tcarrondoAndChat|96921, of1967, afigueiras, fmartins : meeting is off22:46
of1967:(22:47
carlos_abundisHave a nice day everyone =D22:48
AndChat|96921Sorry man22:48
AndChat|96921You'll get there22:50
AndChat|96921...22:50
AndChat|96921U deserve it22:50

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